nms-spoilers

[muted moth]

for the day when Artemis is free to roam all of the simulations freely

[gloomy isle]

As an aside, isn't Artemis technically an alternative version of us?

From another iteration

[safe kiln]

yes

all travelers are

(also: Artemis isn't any more dead than anything else in the world of glass, methinks)

[eternal radish]

And there might be multiple iterations of them out there.

[safe kiln]

technically not how travelers work

though there's a bit of inconsistency there

[eternal radish]

This dialogue makes me think there could be multiple iterations of everyone.

[bitter walrus]

whats the lore with the biological horrors?

[tardy violet]

not only this dialogue, but sometimes abandoned outpost terminals also write out texts as if it were actually us, who was there, who knows how much time ago.

[noble galleon]

Should I follow the Pirate Voice of freedom?

I've already completed the Atlas path, and Artemis path.

Just worried it'll ruin my progress with the Atlas path.

[safe kiln]

has no lasting effect really

[safe kiln]

like a number of things, they seem to hail from the Void

similar to infestations, living ships, abyssal horrors, etc

[small pier]

I have to ask, do we ever, EVER look into all these Korvax Machine Priest who are praying on these freighters and doing horrifying experiments? Is it ever elaborated on in the game?

[unreal dragon]

@flat mist so what's the difference between the new galaxy and Euclid

[flat mist]

Wait

Let me get a wiki article

Or I will have to write an entire paragraph

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Galaxy

Euclid is a normal galaxy or a regular one, some are lush ( higher chance of tropical and harmless planets ) some are empty ( higher chance of dead planets ) and some are dangerous ( higher chance of extreme weather planets )

I like lush ones

Perhaps the most popular one is Eissentam, galaxy number 10/256, it’s the first lush galaxy and the home of many people including me

[unreal dragon]

how you get to other galaxies

[flat mist]

Galactic cores

Or

!starcablink

Oof

Wait

!Starcablink

no?

Ok

Wait

https://discord.gg/9mDKN8pA

These guys can take you anywhere

They took me to galaxy 256 in 10 minutes

[charred shale]

I'm about to start exploring an empty galaxy once I get a ride from the star cabs. Since a percentage of dead planets get converted to exotic, empty galaxies should theoretically have the most exotic planets

[unreal dragon]

ok thanks

[flat mist]

They bust all your stuff so be ready

[unreal dragon]

lol ok

[flat mist]

Buy some random ship and multitool you can scrap player

Later

So you can just call in your ship

And swap multitool

With no fix

[unreal dragon]

yeah entuland taught me that trick

[mellow tusk]

Hello, just finished the Polestar expedition, I converted my save and then went to the Anomaly, but it seems the Artemis questline "Alone Admist the Stars" isn't triggering.
Has someone managed to unlock the next step ?

[mellow tusk]

So doing a few side missions did the trick, I received a transmission then the questline can be continued

[open juniper]

It's pretty crazy that the 4th Rendezvous system has two planets with star bulb. I think this makes a nice system to settle down for a while.

[tepid iris]

They forgot notes for todays experimental?

[manic swan]

When it said I could ride this jellyfish, I thought it would be a bit more... Conventional.

[unreal pecan]

heh

[spring hawk]

Maybe 4.0 or 4.1 will be a portal overhaul

Considering theyve been overhauling a lot of things lately, like sentinels pirates and freighters

That would be very nice

I wish that in a later update we could actually travel to the world of glass

[urban oak]

If they do a portal overhaul that might be a new quest line, as the portals are the only way to get to the world of glass.

[spring hawk]

Hmm... good idea! Or maybe we can get to the gek and vykeen homeworlds!

Not korvax prime, cause you know

[urban oak]

It gone boom

[spring hawk]

Also when more abyss lore

[wraith flume]

not sure if I'm hitting a bug or what - I completed the purge and I refused the atlas, was I supposed to get the remembrance BP anyways? when I got respawned I didn't reach my ship, I just summoned it, so I didn't interact with the sphere-beacon (didn't come anywhere close to it)

[urban oak]

You get the rememberance bp from the sphere beacon.

[wraith flume]

crap

[urban oak]

The beacon should be marked with a quest marker I think.

[wraith flume]

eh but I kinda forgot and left that system already, I'm probably at the other end of the galaxy

and I have a feeling there wasn't even a space station there

[urban oak]

Um crap.....do you still have the quest? If you do, try resetting the quest. It might spawn the beacon on a nearby world.

[wraith flume]

unfortunately no - the moment you refuse the atlas and get respawned away from your ship in a new system, all you get is this:

ah wait

if I keep this selected, then I ask for a new atlas interface, after I complete the atlas path fully, I may get asked to reset the galaxy again

nope, no need to - for some reason now it shows up

I may have failed to check in the right spot and could have been there all the time

sorry for the noise!

and thanks for the help @urban oak

yeah, it's just dumb me - I was crafting the seeds in the freighter and looking at the install technology popup I couldn't see anything, I assumed I was missing it but I most likely wasn't missing it at all

[urban oak]

Gotta love it when a problem fixes itself.

[wraith flume]

aye 😄

[small pier]

Do you guys think there are things in No Man's Sky that we haven't discovered? In the sense of like, unlocks or things that would then spawn in the world because the community discovered it?

[heady wyvern]

Seems like you were in your freighter tab, soo

[wraith flume]

yep, I realized afterwards

[lapis holly]

man. the living ship quest is kinda screwed up. THE VOID EGG SEEKS MORE SOULS!

I'm... not sure I want this living ship now.

[wind oxide]

I'm trippin

I Just found a space jellyfish wtf

[lapis holly]

yeah :)

you can poke them with your weapons

[tepid iris]

Older style freighter industrial expansion rooms have been added as variant parts.

which ones are these?

[atomic ivy]

I just got a void egg randomly given to me at the anomaly. Excited to go through more of the questline

[eternal radish]

It's so fucked

That soul harvesting part really screwed me up haha

[small pier]

Did Hello Games say they were going to do anything for their Annivesary?

[uncut harness]

Nope. They never have done before, no reason for them to start now.

[small pier]

Ah ok, I wasn't aware. Never played long enough to be during a anniversary.

[uncut harness]

The only thing they kind of follow a somewhat schedule to is one huge update per year. No set time for that though, just when they're done with it.

[small pier]

Would have Endurance been that one giant update or is that what people are suspecting the one releqased along with Switch and Mac OS being playable?

[twilit hound]

I'm on the mission the purge, just wanted to get the glyphs since I was already 1 quest away from it but if I complete this mission will I be put into another galaxy and if so do I lose everything?

[winged path]

@twilit houndyou dont lose anything if you do the reset

[lapis holly]

go for it but, and this is important, if you wind up with another egg at the same time (and I did) only ONE of them will work to finish the quest and it's up to the game which one. Also, in the final planet where you collect souls (WTF!?) do NOT go to the space station or claim a base. it'll screw you up.

[twilit hound]

Awesome thank you! I also heard that you can use a portal to get back to Euclid is that true? edit: a base teleport portal

[lapis holly]

yup. it's just not cricket.

[winged path]

@twilit houndyes, i use a regular teleporter to get back to my mineral harvesters and i am now trying to main the second (new) galaxy i am now in

[cloud jolt]

<:info:850810445577453658> Teleporters versus Portals

@twilit hound

Shared by: weasel#6455

[winged path]

so i am able to go back and forth, and people who join on me can come to me just like they could previouslyt

[twilit hound]

Awesome, sweet I appreciate you answering! I didn't want to leave everything in euclid behind

[charred shale]

Does Telamon only guide the last traveller?

Do all travellers just like poof into existence as adults with no memories but the intuitive ability to operate spacecraft? or just us as players?

[safe kiln]

there seems to be some difference between player travellers/anomalies vs other travellers you can encounter as NPCs

[scarlet thunder]

anybody got screenshtos of new industrial expansion floors on freighter?

from experimental

[eternal radish]

I think all Travellers just poof into existence.

[safe kiln]

i tried but couldn't find them

[eternal radish]

But I'm not sure. Apollo said they were "born just as you were".

[safe kiln]

we don't ever seem to be subject to the mishaps that other travellers make, such as noclipping out of reality and into the world of glass

[eternal radish]

But it wasn't specified if "being born" just meant spawning in.

[safe kiln]

Apollo doesn't necessarily know the circumstances of the player's creation, either

he could be assuming them, based on his experience and what he knows of other travellers he's met

[charred shale]

I also think that players are the only ones with Telamon in their suits. I can't find the in game text, likely from the boundary failures that talk about Telamon being put into the suit

[safe kiln]

I've heard some people say that Telamon is in all Travellers' suits, but I have no source for that claim

[charred shale]

I'm writing a short story in the nms universe and want to be as lore accurate as possible

[jovial violet]

the last boundary failure logs are about telamon and null. some traveller interactions make note of the suit being "in control" of a dead traveller

[uncut harness]

What happens if you drink the water

[charred shale]

The text says something along the lines of Atlas creating the last traveller in the likeness of it's creator and then put Telamon in the suit in hopes that the traveller could solve it's 16 problem

[uncut harness]

I wonder if the atlas will die

[eternal radish]

Artemis also mentioned having an exosuit voice which they cut off by cutting off the speaker because it said such terrible things.

[charred shale]

Not within our time in the simulation. Its implied that we could live hundreds, thousands, even millions of years within the simulation before the 16 minutes was up

[uncut harness]

What is outside the simulation?

[charred shale]

I always assumed that was the Atlas. Like when it randomly interjects in your comms with some cryptic message

[uncut harness]

The exosuit voice?

[charred shale]

Not sure but speculatively it's our universe that we live in

[charred shale]

the voice Artemis mentioned saying terrible things in her suit

[uncut harness]

The wiki said that the exosuit voice is an AI like the atlas iirc

[charred shale]

Yeah Telamon

Atlas "sister" AI

[uncut harness]

Imagine the first spawn came back

[charred shale]

Some believe they are in charge of the sentinels (before being trapped in the exosuit) which is likely why they are now malfunctioning

[eternal radish]

This made me think Artemis also had Telamon in their suit.

[cosmic hollow]

guys,i finished atlas path before artemis quest. then after new beginning the atlas path Q popped up again. do i need to do it again?if i do it again will it gone forever

since its annoying

[charred shale]

Yeah I definetly see where you are coming from but I just personally thought they were talking about those cryptic messages Atlas put in your comms about obeying the Atlas and stuff like that.

[eternal radish]

It could have been Null too

"You are not -kzzzt- alone". It turned out that came from Null.

[charred shale]

Yeah null sucks I'd cut my speakers too if they were talking in my suit

[small pier]

Hah, neat little new part on the experimental I just noticed

[eternal radish]

Imagine your phone rings, you take the phone and hear some weird distorted voice saying "You are not -kzzzt- alone".

[lean echo]

I’d pass out

[cosmic hollow]

@rancid ether analogy where

[rancid ether]

That scene in the matrix where suddenly an aisle of guns spawns next to them

That's kind of like the Anomaly

A place to prep yourself for reentering the simulation

[cosmic hollow]

ahhh yeah,make sense

[muted moth]

it's a safe haven, a place where sentinels cannot come

[placid latch]

Does anyone know if there’s specific systems that are more likely to yield living freighters and if there’s a cool down between finding them? Thank you.

[muted moth]

you can get a living frigate in most systems, it's a matter of how long you have to pulse. some people are already posting information about high stat organic frigates in NMS coord exchange.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NMSCoordinateExchange/?f=flair_name%3A"Frigate%2FEuclid%2F3.94"

[gloomy isle]

Those datamined portal menu things are bizarre

I can't think of anything they could be for, other than making portals

But why

Maybe it could be like a multiverse kinda thing

Custom parameters for planets etc, like the old mystcraft mod for Minecraft

Would essentially give unlimited variety, to a degree

[safe kiln]

portal menu things?

[gloomy isle]

Look for the recently datamined icons

[tight monolith]

What actually happens when you reach the gatactic core of Euclid

[safe kiln]

a little cutscene and you go to Hilbert

[charred shale]

do travelers age? It seems that the travelers either live a crazy long time or die from an accident or hazards

[eternal radish]

Helios is apparently old. Their "time of travelling among the stars has passed". Idk how old exactly Helios is but they are a retired Traveller.

[bleak whale]

Quick question if I seek the final interface and reach the center and reset, does it make me do the story again?

[astral crescent]

Not sure it does..

[raw pecan]

It doesn't

[bleak whale]

Got another question, so I refused the atlas and I no longer have the the atlas path quest, so now I just head to the center?

[safe kiln]

if you want

[stable bronze]

-NULL- is apparently trillions of years old, 100% his home universe.

Though, Apollo and NULL have long since replaced their organic bits with machinery.

[icy citrus]

@vale canopy easier to chat here

[vale canopy]

ok

[icy citrus]

It's for a given value of create

It leads you to an undiscovered

[vale canopy]

so every time i do that i will create another system

xD

[icy citrus]

It will (or should be) undiscovered

[vale canopy]

whats the advantage .... hmm... undiscovered means inhabited

[icy citrus]

Always a yellow system, so inhabited - but explorers never count the indigenous population, it's tradition

[stable bronze]

I thought finishing the artemis storyline gave me all the glyphs for portals.

[eternal radish]

That's just sad, actually.

[stable bronze]

Guess I have to get portal glyphs the hard way?

[urban oak]

You have to hyperdrive jump 16 times when the quest tells you to head to the galactic core. Once you have all 16 it will then tell you to go to the final interface.

[stable bronze]

I'm talking about portal activation glyphs. Last time I played, doing the artemis storyline automatically gave all 16.

[urban oak]

Yes but you need to hyperdrive jump in your starship 16 times at the end of the story when the quest tells you to head to the galactic core. You will get a glyph on each jump. If you already have some those get skipped so if you have the 1st and 2nd glyphs you won't get the 3rd one till the third jump.

[warm ingot]

question

wtf happened to artemis and apollo

game never made it clear

[heady wyvern]

For Artemis, they were most likely dead the entire time and you were seeing the last echoes of their consciousness this entire time. Faced with this, you either let Artemis remain dead or uploaded them to the Simulation Console in the Anomaly.

As for Apollo... I'm not so sure.

[somber violet]

Somewhere there's a guide for all the glyphs on the same planet

[heady wyvern]

You'll have to do the 16 warps during "The Purge." They'll be awarded one at a time until the quest is ready to proceed.

[urban oak]

Apollo's fate depends on if you give him the portal glyphs. Give him the glyphs and he dies. Refuse and he lives. Also Apollo is either in another time or another dimension. Due to the Atlas being in a dying state, Time and Space are becoming unstable.

In the end it does not matter as after you complete the story you never speak with Artemis or Apollo again regardless of their final fates.

[tardy ivy]

Is it worth doing the Atlas missions?

[icy citrus]

Yeah

[muted moth]

you get a skill that is handy (imo).

[vale canopy]

which one q.q

[vale canopy]

what atlas missions >.> ... main quest ?

[muted moth]

you decide!

[vale canopy]

I BROKE IT HAHA

xD

.>

oof

poor atlas

is this a permanent planet ?

can come back to it ?

[muted moth]

unclear. save the glyphs if you like. but you will find worlds of that type again later, just exploring on your own

[vale canopy]

all gray

what to do 🤔

can i do all ?

or do i really have to choose here

[icy citrus]

Choose seek, but then do whatever - just makes sure you don't get locked out of finishing that path

[vale canopy]

after i choose seek do i need to do them in a certain order ?

[icy citrus]

Nah

It's recommended to finish atlas path before, but not required

[vale canopy]

until now the atlas path looked like just one warp through a black hole

so now theres more to it ?

[icy citrus]

Oh, you already got the blueprint didn't you

It's done

[vale canopy]

i dont know if i got it

[vale canopy]

how do i check ?

xD

[icy citrus]

can you craft the Star seed?

[vale canopy]

hmm

let me check

from exosuit general tab ?

[vale canopy]

cant

got this

[icy citrus]

Did you make the heart of the sun for the Atlas Path?

[vale canopy]

now

[icy citrus]

Go to your curiosities tab in the craft menu

[vale canopy]

im warping to that system 🤔

heres the curiosities tab

[vale canopy]

no seed

[icy citrus]

Lol, it doesn't look like you have even started it

There are like 10, 12? Things you craft along the way

[vale canopy]

here i say accept >.>

[icy citrus]

That's the start

[vale canopy]

omg ... 2nd interface i need to warp 4 timez

xD

[vale canopy]

a lot of warping >.>

but every jump i get one glyph

i think from main quest

xd

will take opportunity to max my inventory

[vale canopy]

main quest gets progress also

5/16 cuz i did 5 warps

[icy citrus]

Yep

[vale canopy]

i need 8 warps to next

xD

OMG

good thing i got a decent amount of chromatic metal

will run out of units i guess ... cargo upgades look expensive

[vale canopy]

there are tens of galaxies ?? @icy citrus

i didnt think there would be so many 😳

so euclid is only galaxy 1 ... i heard of eissentam but thought its just these 2

[icy citrus]

256

[vale canopy]

🤔

why so many

[icy citrus]

Why not more

[uncut harness]

I agree.

[eternal radish]

Our irl universe has at least hundreds of thousands.

[tardy ivy]

Yes

[vale canopy]

UHM

i barely got 4th orb ... you said there are 10-12 ?

😂😂😂

so much warping

you probably need days to finish

[safe kiln]

I don’t recall it taking too long

[vale canopy]

got 6th now

visited 40+ systems

what happens if you choose to birth a star ? will you create a new system or will you just get blueprint to add health ?

[tardy ivy]

I think it's just for health.

It might create a system, but I don't really see the point of it.

[crystal oar]

Does reseting in the lurge reset my progress

Purge

[safe kiln]

no

[crystal oar]

Thx

[wraith comet]

@south dew there's multiple galaxies, systems within the galaxy, by not selecting to reset you stayed in the starting galaxy

[south dew]

can i change my mind?

[wraith comet]

just go back to the core and travel through to another galaxy

[south dew]

Ok
I didn't actually travel to core yet so i need a lot of fuel hold on

[wraith comet]

the quests should take you there

[wraith comet]

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Storyline

[south dew]

One of the quests doesn't actually require you to go to centre and instead just warp to 16 different galaxies

[wraith comet]

no, that's 16 different systems...

[south dew]

what i meant

lol

[wraith comet]

right, artemis quest the current main quest of the game, it's easier than atlas and teaches more modern stuff

[south dew]

I already finished the artemis part i thought

[wraith comet]

right and at the end you were given the option to try a new galaxy or stay, you chose stay

[south dew]

All I thought it was was "reset the simulation" or "refuse"

[wraith comet]

so now just portal to center and visit another galaxy

[south dew]

and some weirdo told me it lead to the same thing

[wraith comet]

kinda does, just when you reset you can choose where to go, now you can't

[south dew]

Why is carbon never in trade terminals

[wraith comet]

because it's the most abundant substance in the universe... just fire on plants on a planet. hell those green rooms on freighters give like 1200 free carbon per room

[south dew]

Dude, I'm trying to get to galactic centre by warping but i fricking swear the destination star keeps changing

[wraith comet]

ok... never jump directly to core unless a handful of jumps away... let's say your ship has 1,000ly jump range and you are 700,000ly away... that's 700 jumps... this is why portals exist

[south dew]

I haven't been to another galaxy before, how will portals work

holy crap getting to portals is complicated

this is tedious, im gonna get off for tonight

[slender jay]

while finding glyphs for a system near the core then using a portal to get there is one method of reaching it, I think it's worth noting the intended gameplay loop is to seek out black holes which transport you randomized large distances toward the galactic core

[vale canopy]

i heard black holes destroy all tech that is not in tech inventory ??

[mighty rampart]

they can destroy one to multiple tech that is not in the tech inventory

but not all

[vale canopy]

any difference between galaxies ? any reason to change galaxy ?

[warm ingot]

Some have more chance of lush planets so dead planets etc etc

[charred shale]

Travelers are the beings that the Atlas created to explore the simulation. My understanding is that each interation of the universe has a unique traveler. We as players are "The Last Traveller" which were, speculatively, created by Atlas using scans of it's creator in hopes that they could solve the 16/16/16 problem.

[uncut harness]

ooooh

thanks so much!

[glass flare]

if we're going by Waking Titan lore which is supposedly canon, then from what I remember weren't some of the Travelers brain-computer link experiments gone wrong, basically stuck in the simulation forever

[charred shale]

I don't know much about Waking Titan. Need to read up more on it. According to that, the travelers were kind of like the characters in matrix movies, putting their minds into the machine to explore the created simulation. Right?

[glass flare]

Well, my memory is a bit fuzzy on the 2nd season but basically some kids were tricked into testing out some new VR gear which turned out to be experiments in projecting their minds into the simulation. Unfortunately things went bad and some of the kids were lost -- whether or not they ended up in the simulation or not is unknown but that's my guess. some were extracted back to their bodies successfully

[gray cloud]

I just finished Polestar Expedition, did it happen something at the end? Im confused

[charred shale]

Very interesting. I'll need to check that out more

[glass flare]

this is basically the best resource for what went down in both seasons https://wiki.gamedetectives.net/index.php?title=Waking_Titan

[charred shale]

After looking around for a very short time, I'm very sad that I wasn't around for this. Its very cool

[glass flare]

yeah it was quite fun, especially the first season

[safe kiln]

All travelers are created from that scan

Supposedly, the player is either the most complete, or looks the most like them physically

(The scan of the atlas’ creator was corrupted)

[eternal radish]

I thought that all Travellers were created from a corrupted scan of the creator's mind.

[safe kiln]

Something like that

[eternal radish]

The Atlas wanted to see what we would do with eternity.

[rain jacinth]

any difference between killing artemis or uploading her to the simulation gameplay wise?

and I'm thinking... is it morally right to stuff her in a simulation?....

[heady wyvern]

It's a simple moral choice

[rain jacinth]

or is it best to let her suffering end...

damn

[heady wyvern]

The only consideration is your moral compass

[rain jacinth]

I didn't fully read the dialogues completely but....

how is the simulation like supposedly?.....

is it like our own simulation currently?

or is it.... restrictive...?

and small?

[heady wyvern]

A single solar system for Artemis to explore

[rain jacinth]

just a single solar system....?

[heady wyvern]

I could say something else, but...

🤐

[rain jacinth]

I don't mind spoilers

[heady wyvern]

I do ;)

[eternal radish]

If you upload Artemis they will call you a few times. If you end their suffering, well, that's it.

I honestly don't want to spoil too much because I don't want to ruin your experience. First gameplay will really get you.

Second too.

[glass flare]

I think it's also important to say that there's no right answer with that interaction and the game doesn't treat either choice as more right than the other

[rain jacinth]

I went with ending her suffering

[vale canopy]

O.O

no .. apparently not

i thought i have to craft all seeds

independently

now that i crafted that star seed ... and created the star ... am i done with atlas path and can continue with main quest ? @icy citrus

[rain jacinth]

Wait….

So its not 5 galaxies but…

Galaxy types…

And there’s over 255 galaxies?!?!?!

[muted moth]

4 types innit?

[rain jacinth]

So if I enter the green galaxy

Its not gonna be the same one all the time right? It would rng send me to another?

[muted moth]

and 256 galaxies, yep. enoug hto keep you us and all of our descendants exploring until humanity's end

[rain jacinth]

But that’s still lush or…

[muted moth]

green is lush, correct

[rain jacinth]

Jesus fucking Christ

[muted moth]

you get sent to the next numbered lush from the galaxy where you are when you do the choice

[rain jacinth]

I thought it was just 5 Galaxies and that’s it

[muted moth]

so if you're already in galaxy 123 then it will be the next lush one after that

[uncut harness]

Normal, Lush, Harsh and Empty.

[rain jacinth]

What if I reload my save and do the choice again

Would that rng me to another galaxy within the green type?

[muted moth]

nope, it's dependent on the galaxy where you make the choice, and the next numbered one

[rain jacinth]

Or would it still send me to the exact same one I was sent on the first reload?

[muted moth]

so if you are in euiclid, you will go to eissentam always

[rain jacinth]

Ohhh

Ohhhhhh

Gotcha

Holy shit

Imagine being the madman constantly going to the center of each reset

And keep jumping constant layers of lush or whatever galaxy type they want

[muted moth]

some people do the so-called 'Grand Tour' and hop thrugh all 256 centers, looping back around to the start

[rain jacinth]

….wut

How

[muted moth]

with a lot of time and effort and patience 🙂

[rain jacinth]

And how fast can they dothat?

Jesus

[muted moth]

some goals in this game are long term goals, not meant to be done in a day or a few

[rain jacinth]

Imagine colonizing all galaxies

Then again you are limited to like what 200 bases?

[muted moth]

400

[rain jacinth]

Oh nvm that is more manageable

I may just colonize 1 of each type I think

First lush, then harsh etc…

[muted moth]

that's harder, you will have to find a 'ride' to get to specific ones, when you hop throgh the center you get sent to the next numbered galaxy regardless of type

still doable, you just need to find players willing to take you to the specific galaxies you have in mind

[rain jacinth]

Well I don’t mean colonize all the galaxies I mean I would colonize 1 red, 1 green, 1 blue and 1 light blue galaxy

I accidentally colonized a red harsh calypso galaxy tho

I warped to someone’s game who happens to be on a calypso

[muted moth]

nice!

you can find players with bases in Eissentam often enough by looking at the anomaly teleporter base list and checking details of each base for the galaxy

normal, you have already (euclid) so that would leave you with an empty type to do

[rain jacinth]

Ah alright in that case

I should have my first reset a different type then

What number is the Calypso Galaxy in?

Like the first Harsh warp or…?

[muted moth]

it is, yes

maybe 3, I'd have to check

[rain jacinth]

In the wiki it says its the 3rd galaxy in the nms universe

Tho I don’t think it means the 3rd Harsh reset since Euclid is the first

[muted moth]

no, galaxy number 3. euclid = 1, hilbert = 2, calypso = 3

[rain jacinth]

Is there a known galaxy that is lush and the galaxy center is greenish?

I imagine no one discovered all of them yet… have they?

[muted moth]

all 256 galaxies? yes of course, that's the 'Grand Tour' we were talking about earlier

people have bases in all of them

[rain jacinth]

Ah right….

I need to get into one of those one day….

[muted moth]

check for green name (lush) and green core color if you like

this is not my image and I do not unfortunately know the source

[rain jacinth]

Ah

Yeah I wanna make a home there maybe

Maybe move my settlement there

But still be mostly active on Euclid with my star Destroyer staying there or an alt base

[muted moth]

given that any base of yours is one teleport away, it's easy to stay active in a few places

[rain jacinth]

And galaxy core color doesn’t matter its all aesthetics right? Cus color green is my favorite

[muted moth]

I don't think the core colors mean anything, right

[rain jacinth]

Ah ok

Then yeah aesthetics then I may move to Rewmanwa or Emikereks

Idk whichever is the least explored

I wanna look for completely undiscovered systems and planets so I can rename my planets, animals and things I find

I assume Yuwarugha is the least explored since its the furthest down the lush galaxy list with the green core?

Also imagine trying to explore the entire universe in permadeath mode

[muted moth]

you can find unexplored regions anywhere you go, including of course euclid

most of euclid remains unexplored

[rain jacinth]

Yeah but I have been encountering a lot of already explored regions

[muted moth]

take a black hole or a few to get somewhere undiscovered

[rain jacinth]

Yeah I may try that

Also funny enough

One took me at the outer most rim of the euclid galaxy

[muted moth]

black holes should not move you too much closer or farther from the core, but relic gates might

the other option you have is to try portal roulette

[icy citrus]

Yep

[vale canopy]

got over 100 navigation datas

wondering whats the best way to spend them

[tepid iris]

Does anyone have a sceen of the glass stairs ?

Or do they just mean with windows

[icy citrus]

With windows

[tepid iris]

Nice

[vale canopy]

what happens here q.q

[icy citrus]

Cry out!

[vale canopy]

uhm

is it too late to change omni tool and primary ship ?

🤔

[icy citrus]

Reload that save?

Never tried there, I eat the damage

[vale canopy]

?

i read it destroys all modules that are not in tech inventory

xD

and destroys multi tool also

[icy citrus]

Damages

Doesn't outright destroy anything

[vale canopy]

so will grab a shuttle i got ...from a distress call ... and a multi tool i got from distress call as eell

[icy citrus]

Lots do that

[vale canopy]

yeah ... damages

but i will need to get more mats to repair

well

i got those repair kits too but planning on keeping them

xD

q.q

to reset or not

i feel like resetting brings more benefits

but according to story that means resetting all characters in storyline ?

[icy citrus]

?

[vale canopy]

stand my ground

[icy citrus]

Seriously?

Why

[vale canopy]

?

[vale canopy]

does that mean a choice ?

submit means reset and stand ground means no reset ?

[icy citrus]

just curious

[vale canopy]

simply because not feeling like submitting to anyone ... but i guess i wanna reset 🤔

because i read you can choose to get ported to a lush system ... hopefully with no hazards and no sentinels

good for a sexy base

[heady wyvern]

The final choice will be given to you in very unambiguous terms.

[vale canopy]

🤔

what do you think

resetting brings more benefits or not

i read it ports to another galaxy but you can port back if bases so should not be a reason to worry

so from what i read the choice is more about staying in current galaxy or going to a different one

and i guess all galaxies got same alien races

[icy citrus]

The difference in the galaxy types are the spawn chances for specific biomes

Lush has more lush, empty more empty, harsh more harsh - and normal is what the starter galaxy, Euclid, is

[vale canopy]

ok

[vale canopy]

Lush means more paradise planets ?

O.O

with glowing trees and grass

and no hazards and no sentinels

O.O

[icy citrus]

Yep

Higher odds anyways - as you know galaxies are big

[vale canopy]

lets find out what galaxy i get ported to

🤔

slacked in bed for a while ... all this warping is tiring

[unreal pecan]

empty galaxies are pretty serene

[vale canopy]

show

🤔

empty meaning airless climate ?

[unreal pecan]

there's also a lot of glitch planets there

yeah, airless climate

[vale canopy]

ok

i got a base on such a planet

and i got 2 decorations

from glitch planets

xD

i read something about extreme sentinels

what does that mean

more aggressive ?

or other sentinels than what you normally see

🤔

IT IS TIME

lush is green ? @icy citrus

[icy citrus]

They should all have names

Whatcha got

[spring hawk]

when i had to choose, i chose lush and i havent regretted it.

[vale canopy]

serene q.q

[icy citrus]

That's the one

[vale canopy]

O.O

lets see what galaxy

i guess that not all players who choose this get in same lush galaxy

i read there are 25

[icy citrus]

Actually, they do

What changes it depends on what galaxy you complete it in

[vale canopy]

Eissentam

xD

[icy citrus]

It takes you to the next one of that type, from where you are

So mostly people get Eissentam - if you did that quest in Eissentam, you would get Isdoraijung

The next lush in numerical order

[vale canopy]

fond the heart of the sun ?

but i had it

[icy citrus]

You used it

[vale canopy]

oh ... so i have to craft another M

?

[icy citrus]

Yep

[vale canopy]

omg ... annoying ... have to craft all 10 again

xD

[vale canopy]

is this also neverending ?

[icy citrus]

Correct

[vale canopy]

Poor Nada not remembering me q.q

[vale canopy]

got some items like this

[placid latch]

I am having no luck finding anomaly detectors. These drop rates huuuuurt

[vale canopy]

so sexy >.>

[rain jacinth]

Beautiful planet

[icy citrus]

This channel is for spoilers, we have #nms-photomode-gallery for pretty shots.

[muted moth]

just gotta find a day when you're in the mood to not do much in the game but float around in asteroid fields, maybe try to take a pic or two of an npc mining, that kind of thing

[safe kiln]

A maxed out phase beam is good for mining

[tepid iris]

So we hit 3.99 now

Pacts on next being 4.0 vs 3.100? Lol

[muted moth]

3.99a or b I guess

[rain jacinth]

Which galaxy would lead me to the Ezdarante Galaxy if I do the purge quest?

[muted moth]

it's 170, lush type, so you want to be in any of the previous 9 I guess, or however many back that are not lush

[rain jacinth]

And can you complete the purge main story quest in another galaxy?

[rain jacinth]

Oh any of the previous 9 gotcha

[muted moth]

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Galaxy?so=search#Galaxies_151-200

yes you can do it in another galaxy

check that the one you go to is not lush and there are no lush ones between that and 170

and you're good

[rain jacinth]

Gotcha

Ok I haven’t decided fully which galaxy to move in yet there’s a few green lush options

I do like Yuwarugha’s color since apparently its mint green instead of pale green like the others

Very little difference tho

What I do wonder is I assume the higher the galaxy number the lower the population is?

I assume Eissentam is currently the most populated lush galaxy?

Since its the first?

I got Calypso and Eissentam colonized and saved so…

[muted moth]

Eissentam is we guess the second most populated galaxy period, with Euclid being the first

[rain jacinth]

Alrighty

Well gonna look for a taxi to help take me to another galaxy so I want warp to Yuwarugha

Ik you said there’s a lot to discover in Euclid but…

I really wanna go to a galaxy very unknown and underpopulated find very new discoveries

[muted moth]

discoveries are either new or they are not 😄

anyways, enjoy your trip!

[rain jacinth]

Also what are Norm Galaxies? I never understood that type of galaxy?

Like are those high in exotic and anomalous environments and creatures or…?

[muted moth]

normal galaxies, that'sthe galaxy type you start in

[rain jacinth]

Gonna have to go to Dischiutun and then warp to the one I wanna live in

Ah….

[muted moth]

lush galaxies have more lush biome planets than normal ones

harsh galaxies have more planets with harsh conditions than normal galaxies

etc

[rain jacinth]

And dead galaxies are well mostly dead planets and frozen planets

dead space-like planets

[muted moth]

more dead planets than normal galaxies

there you go

[rain jacinth]

The Fermi Paradox style horror galaxies

I say horror because I personally find that theory very depressing and horrifying

I do not like the idea of us being the only things alive in the whole universe

[muted moth]

all that needs to happen is for life to develop too many light years apart and not often enough in a planet's cycle for others to find it

anyways that's defintiely not an nms spoiler 😄

[rain jacinth]

Probably 3 galaxy types I would colonize and not the empty one….

The dead one sounds boring

[muted moth]

the empty galaxies sounded most intriguing to me tbh

[eternal radish]

This is a Korvax derelict freighter. Didn't know Korvax had guts, let along gut fauna...

Also, to me this seems to indicate that Korvax once used to be organic beings.

[uncut harness]

The Korvax are similar to sentinels in the way they have nanites running through them. The nanites were the reason they were enslaved, the nanites were the reason they are no longer enslaved. In the exocraft specialist mission they perform a ritual with nanites on themselves to forget their dead family, the gek baby's had nanite poured into their spawning pools and it changed them. This next thing is a big part of the story so if you don't know that part yet I don't want to spoil it(even here, where spoilers are expected), so I'll leave it at the sentence "don't drink the water". The Korvax were always made of nanites, this is known, but they might have electronic organs to process resources all the same.

[tame mantle]

||Ok is saw a question like this and now it’s time for me to ask this; should I put artemis in the simulation, or the body? I truly don’t know and idk if it’ll change the story.||

[cerulean perch]

If you want to know if it'll affect gameplay rewards mechanics or the outcome really, it will not. It truly is a personal decision

[tame mantle]

Oh ok

[safe kiln]

||I would argue that one of the central themes of the Korvax in general is that they aren’t actually that much different from “organic races” at all||

||Nanites can be extracted from an extremely wide range of materials ranging from entirely biological to entirely metallic||

||essentially, the line between “mechanical” and “biological” is significantly blurred in no man’s sky, arguably due in part to the simulated nature of the universe||

[eternal radish]

Hmmm maybe. Weird thing is robotic pets lay droppings consisting of faecium, just like organic fauna.

[uncut harness]

Those are anomalous though, it could be different for them

[eternal radish]

Maybe they aren't carbon based lifeforms but silicate based. I know NMS is just a game and we shouldn't hold it to irl standards, but scientists argue that silicon based lifeforms can exist and probably are very different from us.

[eternal radish]

Even the Sentinel Quad.

I renamed mine to Gir

Someone can give you an egg

But anyways, I wonder how the "biology" of robotic fauna works 😅

[uncut harness]

Yeah, it is weird. I would have to assume the robotic fauna hunt other fauna for sustainance, I guess it has deeper layers even when you consider the korvax convergence on korvax prime. Do the robotic creatures on anomalous worlds have convergences. In the base scientist quest line, the scientist creates a mini convergence for a signal beacon and other machinery, following this, they gained sentience. Do creatures of the same convergence hunt each other? how to do they supply themselves with power?

[eternal radish]

You can only claim one egg per player but you can breed an infinite amount of them.

[eternal radish]

The logs from Sentinel pillars made me wonder if Sentinels are sentient.

[uncut harness]

Iteration Adriadne is a sentinel maybe, when you log into a sentinel pillar, you use their credentials, also yeah, maybe the sentinel hive is a convergence of sorts. This in mind, they do seem sentient, ever since the destruction of korvax prime, they've been guarding planets ruthlessly, they have thought, but maybe as one entity. When you use the beads of glass on your own sentinel flare it becomes sentient, but I think that's an exception.

[eternal radish]

Yep.

[eternal radish]

Or is their hive mind like one entity and the individual Sentinels are the cells of it?

[uncut harness]

Could be, that's maybe why laylaps(the personal drone) needed to be disconnected from the hive

[eternal radish]

In the logs the voice of the hive always speaks as "we". "Once we didn't need a physical form". "The day we gained flesh, though metal it is". It makes individual Sentinels seem sentient.

Delicious salvaged frigate modules 😋

Yes

Can I have them? Thanks

Also we better take this convo elsewhere or admins get mad 😬

[uncut harness]

Yeah, ima go back and delete all my messages related to the egg, let's take this to dms

[eternal radish]

Lfg trades maybe?

[uncut harness]

Ok

[acoustic dew]

https://twitter.com/ProceduralTRV/status/1559481781849661441?t=CO-Scsj8vYDt54YqqJcHqw&s=19

Procedural Traveller 🚀 (@ProceduralTRV)

#NoMansSkySpoilers

Remember those data-mined portal icons, this is the bigger picture & how they'll be used in-game
Looks like a completely overhauled menu with the guide, milestones and catalogue all in one place!

Thanks to @bomber_that for the image 🙏

Twitter · Aug 16, 2022, 10:06 AM

Switch friendly UI

[eternal radish]

Portal cat? Do we get a Stray cross-over in NMS? 😂

[mental socket]

New UI sounds nice

hope they'll allow us to disable the constant guide popups too and keep the HUD focused on our select mission

[mental socket]

speaking of new UI elements. Has this always been here?

[ornate pewter]

What if it's real because it's all made of nanites?

[low egret]

I think this pretty much deconfirms the speculation about 4.0 overhauling portals

Honestly this is nice for non-switch players as well since catalogue, milestones, and guides are lesser-used sections of the menu, and this way they'll only take up 1 tab instead of 3

Whereas discoveries, log, and options are all used pretty often

A couple other things that come to mind about this:

• There's 4 categories in the Catalogue section but 9 sections in the current Catalogue. I wonder if some categories were combined together or if it just doesn't display all of them at once.
• Milestones definitely doesn't display everything at once. I'd imagine it displays the 3 that most recently updated. I wonder how that works with non-journey stuff in the Milestones page (faction + lifeform reputation).
• Guide probably just leaves open the most recent page you read?
• Based on the internal names it seems like this page is called the Portal. Makes sense tbh, although it definitely bamboozled a lot of us earlier lol
• If they're changing this UI hopefully they're changing some other ones too? (Quicksilver Companion's is desperately in need of an overhaul IMO)

[mighty rampart]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BQvSK2iyrc

[brisk skiff]

||So I got to the point in the game in which Atlas purges? Resets? Idk how to say it, and I got a mission to reach the center of the galaxy. Will doing so end the game, is it like the final "mission" which is meant to be done after Im done with the game? Or something else? I am confused. Also, why is 16 the reason the Atlas broke? What significance does it have? ||

[willow stirrup]

No, it will not end your game (and you don't actually have to reach the center). You will be able to continue as normal

[brisk skiff]

Oh

What about the last 2 questions I asked?

Is there an answer, or is it just design choice?

[willow stirrup]

Just lore, afaik. I don't remember it being explained really

[brisk skiff]

Oh, cool

Is the Atlas language fully translatable? Like with the orbs that give random words?

[willow stirrup]

I'm not sure. This says there are 220 words that are able to be translated, and 2 that apparently have no translation; but I don't know if they've added more like they have with the other languages (this says 1.38 was the last datamine for the Atlas language) https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Atlas_(language)

[safe kiln]

16 denotes the minutes the Atlas has until it dies.

This doesn’t equate to minutes left within the no man’s sky universe though, as the atlas simulates things extremely fast

[barren gale]

I might say "||fails||" instead of "dies" because we don't truly know - it is implied that even Atlas doesn't know what will happen, just something "not good".

I only mention that because they may update the story more in the future.

[wet epoch]

can someone confirm if personal base teleporters work ||between galaxies? google’d but i get all sorts of answers over the past 6 years. looks like it does work as of current NMS?||

[tame grotto]

all teleporters work across galaxies (to space stations you've been to before and bases)

not to be confused with Portals ofc.

[wet epoch]

yup, i found out the diff between portals and teleporters from searching. cool, thanks!

[glass flare]

What I've always found odd/interesting about teleporters is that the NPCs don't use them but don't seem weirded out by them in the same way that they're deathly afraid of portals. Even though they essentially do the same thing

[safe kiln]

Do we know that NPCs don’t use them?

We don’t ever see them doing so but that doesn’t mean they don’t use them in lore

(Also, considering that they have a different “warp tunnel” I’d imagine that means they operate differently)

[glass flare]

I mean sure, in what happens in terms of the fiction that we don't see but assume, yes they probably use them. But I guess my main point was that they see them differently than portals even though mechanically they mostly operate in the same way

[eternal radish]

In the Blighted Expedition you found out that a group of pirates used the portals.

[safe kiln]

At minimum, the portals are much older. That alone would probably make a number of people less willing to use them

They’re essentially an ancient unknown to the average denizen of the NMS universe

[muted moth]

they let you go places you've never been and that no one you know has ever been, that's already pretty weird

I suppose they could have used a slightly different loading screen to get the point across, shrug

[safe kiln]

Do we know what the Sentinel freighter trail looks like?

[umbral tree]

Imagine Atlas putting Lost Light into a few iterations after reading the entirety of MTMTE and its continuation in 16.4 seconds and instantly regretting it

[languid vortex]

Ok so what's this 4/16 atlas protocol? Do I need to head to the center of the galaxy asap?

[uncut harness]

just keep warping

you wont need to reach the middle of the system, once it reaches 16 something will happen

[languid vortex]

Ok

[sharp gust]

i think they are going to add it in 4.0,and i think i saw a leak that it was red

[mental socket]

very convenient

all UI pages smushed to one intuitive menu rather than spread out

[acoustic dew]

Switch friendly for sure

[mental socket]

and Steamdeck

[acoustic dew]

aye

I dig it

[mental socket]

hope they also touch the quick menu a bit. Requires so many button inputs to get through on consoles

toggling between different multitools and exocraft could be a bit more intuitive

[short halo]

I cant post images

@willow stirrup

[willow stirrup]

@short halo Depending on where you are currently: Aqua will lead to the next Normal galaxy (like Euclid), default: Hilbert (galaxy 2). Red will lead to the next Harsh galaxy Calypso, galaxy , by default. Dark Blue will lead to the next Dead galaxy, Budullangr (galaxy 7) by default, Green will lead to the next Lush galaxy, Eissentam (galaxy 10) by default. Default meaning you are completing the mission in Euclid

[short halo]

so the farthest galaxy you can go would be eissentam, right?

[willow stirrup]

If you are completing the mission in Euclid, yes

[short halo]

as I already have teleport from there, so I'll choose any other... any suggestions?

[short halo]

I do

[willow stirrup]

Dead galaxies are fun. If you had a manual save you could reload you can complete the mission from Eissentam and choosing green will take you to Isdoraijung (Galaxy 19)

[short halo]

oh I see

one last question. Will my bases and side quests stay the same or will I lose?

[willow stirrup]

They will stay the same

[short halo]

ok! thanks bro

[stiff oriole]

so I forgot how to do it... I reached galaxy 59, saved my game 1 year ago, and stopped playing immediately after. Now I resumed playing and need to go do stuff in other galaxies, but I want to get back to 59. So I want to make a base near a gate in 59... How I find the first gate of a galaxy, again? I don't remember how to find the first gate. (the others is just matter of using your known gate to go to them...)

[muted moth]

you want a base near a portal?

honestly all you need is to build a base with a teleporter in galaxy 59 (to get back to it, you don't even need the teleporter, just the basr, but I assume you want to be able to depart with ease, so...)

[stiff oriole]

I want to build the teleporter near a gate

but I don't remember how to find them, when you don't have any yet on a particular galaxy

[willow stirrup]

Use !faq-portal in #bot-spam

Know that you can't portal from one galaxy to another

[muted moth]

tl;dr scan for a monolith with exocraft, go to it, answer riddle, give race relic, get directed to portal

[stiff oriole]

@muted moth oh that is what I wanted to remember. Thanks!

[glass flare]

Yeah I forgot about that, but that expedition just brought more questions than answers, and I feel it is way beyond time for HG to continue the main storyline. The fact that the Sentinels are just allowing pirates to take over whole systems, and the races to start building small cities again, shows both that 1) the Sentinels are losing control of the static equilibrium they have enforced, and 2) they inexplicably aren't doing anything about it (other than some minor attacks on settlements)

[muted moth]

there never was a good equilibirum. that's why the walls between dimensions are thinning, the atlas is on borrowed time, etc

[glass flare]

I disagree, the Sentinels used to raze to the ground any attempts by the races to build larger civilizations. And they certainly wouldn't let rebel forces just claim systems with impunity. Sure, there was always talk of things breaking down, and the glitched exotic planets are a symptom of that, but the races always behaviorally stuck to their enforced patterns. That's all changing, but HG hasn't provided any context for why the Sentinels are letting this happen or unable to stop it

[safe kiln]

The sentinels have seemingly been corrupted by the Void

[frank ivy]

at a standstill in purge, i reached the atlas

shopuld i reset it or refuse it

[knotty mountain]

Refusing will leave you in Euclid and resetting will take you to a different galaxy

[frank ivy]

im guessing if i go to a different galaxy, i wont be aable to access my current base and other teleports anymore?

[knotty mountain]

The four options are Lush galaxy (green), Harsh galaxy (red), Empty galaxy (blue) and Normal galaxy (teal). They will also gain the title "The Last".

No you can still go to your bases

You can use your base teleports to go back and forth between galaxies

[frank ivy]

ooohhhh

but is it like starting from scratch ?

[knotty mountain]

If you choose a new galaxy make sure you put a base and a teleporter there so you can go back and forth

No your tech gets hella damaged but you don't lose anything

[frank ivy]

ah

is there any benefit to going to a new galaxy? and i refuse it will i ever be able to go to a different galaxy again?

[knotty mountain]

If you choose the green for a lush galaxy you'll go to Eissentam which is the most popular outside of Euclid

!faq-galaxies

Womp

[frank ivy]

alright, thank you for your help

[knotty mountain]

Go to #bot-spam

I did the command there

[frank ivy]

thank you

[knotty mountain]

But really the spawn chance of certain types of planets is higher in their corresponding galaxy, more lush in lush, more empty in empty etc

[frank ivy]

ah, ok

can i ask for your personal recommendation on what to do

wether to go to eissentam or stay in euclid

[stiff oriole]

harsh galaxy is better than lush for some purposes or hanging around lush galaxy is fine?

[muted moth]

lush galaxies are fine. some people like the added challenge of more extreme worlds or the bragging rights

it's really up to you

[mental socket]

https://twitter.com/bomber_that/status/1560887793378906112?t=JuF-gP_uun-4l8D10ZyhEw&s=19

ThatBomberBoi (@bomber_that)

Realized I forgot to explain how the "Stories" in the new menu would most likely work, so I'll elaborate here. A 🧵
@ProceduralTRV
@NCaptainsteve

Twitter · Aug 20, 2022, 7:13 AM

more to that

so apparently there's a eso/skyrim esq "lorebook system" in the works

👀

quite interesting stuff

[dapper heath]

HI Folks, so I am at this choice, where can i read up on the different options?

Seek final interface, continue atlas and explore galaxy

[frigid shard]

I'm hoping there's a file ALSO in there somewhere where you can write something down larger than a pinterest pin title. Like some kind of personal ship's log you can place down inside of your base/freighter.

[icy citrus]

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/The_Purge

[dapper heath]

ty

[charred shale]

I've been excited for this because researching lore in it's current state, as whimsical and mysterious as it is, is incredibly frustrating and difficult

[acoustic dew]

Oh that's neat

[mental socket]

Same here. It's kinda pain to have to rely on your own memory or the wiki for some lore snippets when having a discussion about it or trying to piece together some mystery

I bet it'll be quite a blast to have everything categorized and easily accessible in game. Most likely in a chronological order too

Hopefully the story and lore also get some love with 4.0. Would be fitting if there's going to be a whole lore library for us to fill.

Looking at you, Abyss and Ariadne >.>

[charred shale]

I'm working on a short story set in the nms universe and it's been a pain trying to gather lore info

[muted moth]

some of the lore is on the wiki if you know the right search terms, but yep, it's annoying

[charred shale]

yeah it but not all of it and it's not well organized

[muted moth]

the game doesn't organize it very well either at all 😄

[stone cobalt]

Just kinda curious, the lore said sth like the simulation will end in 16 mins real world time, but is there any reference in the game about how long 1 min real life is inside the simulation? Maybe million years? Or smaller? Like thousands of years?

[muted moth]

we don't know but the mission after the reset (new beginnings) says you have all the time in the world

[eternal radish]

Interesting thread.

https://twitter.com/bomber_that/status/1560887793378906112?s=21&t=yvylX1XJYHt18suMH3-lwQ

ThatBomberBoi (@bomber_that)

Realized I forgot to explain how the "Stories" in the new menu would most likely work, so I'll elaborate here. A 🧵
@ProceduralTRV
@NCaptainsteve

Twitter · Aug 20, 2022, 7:13 AM

[charred shale]

Its unclear how long the Atlas simulation has been running prior to the "16 minutes remaining" but millions of years of history and evolution have passed within the simulation within that time, so it's safe to assume that the scale is huge. 16 minutes could be millions and millions of years within the simulation.

One thing that is clear, though, is that the simulation will not end during our time alive in the game.

[stone cobalt]

But it is possible that those millions of years of evolution was done in like a few weeks or months and so the actual time left could be smaller? But I guess the length of it really depends on the purpose of ATLAS, if it is just a game meant for public like "Dwarf Fortress" world generation, maybe it is just around an hour or so, but if it is for some crazy scientists' thing, then it could be a long experiment

But yea, it is still very likely that the 16 mins is way longer than an average human lifespan even if we taken those into account

[eternal radish]

I just met a Synth Gek in NMS in a minor settlement. Pretty interesting. I wish I had the screenshots of the interaction but I forgot to share them before turning off my pc.

[ornate ferry]

Guys can i have a summary of the spoilers we already have

[stable bronze]

I wonder how far into the future the story is actually set. Or at least when Atlas was built. They probably don't have teleporters, portals or multtools to instantly create/deconstruct structures if they had to leave the computer behind and used spaceships to leave the planet.

[raw cave]

okay I got to a point where it's Seek the Final Interface / Complete the Atlas Path / Explore the galaxy - do these choices matter a ton at this point?

[safe kiln]

You can do all of them

[tepid iris]

that menu leak is interesting

[dapper heath]

The Purge ticking off now at 5/16 anything I should be worried about?

[stable bronze]

no

[safe kiln]

Nah

[eternal dew]

feel like i should ask here as i guess it’s a kind of spoiler but where do i get a Heart Of the Sun? i need it to make the remembrance ball thing

[fathom ruin]

the atlas path gives you the item blueprint, though you'll need to build it twice (first for an item in the quest, second for the remembrance tech)

[serene brook]

Do you have to get to a certain point in the artemis or atlas quests before the travellers start showing up to tell you grave location

?

[safe kiln]

I think so, yeah

[upper stump]

You can still find them before you get that point into the story just check those space stations

[lapis holly]

looks like the core likes to eat stars. nothing past 3k LY.

[tame mantle]

Is it just me or is the story kinda disappointing? I was hoping for something else then just the plain old simulation

And how are the Gek part Korvax? I don’t understand how rly

[lapis holly]

Korvax infected them with their nanites via their spawning pools.

That has got to be the most disappointing thing to have ever happened to me in this game. Holy shit.

I am truly impressed.

So travelling through the galactic core is... screen going dark green with circles expanding outwards of ever darker green until it goes black. It stays black a while making you think that the game has bugged out, tells you you're in a new (random) galaxy, continues to stay black to really make you think that it has bugged out and make you contemplate killing it and restarting it. Then it plonks you on a new planet with a bunch of damaged equipment. The end.

I r underwhelmed.

I mean... for something that is pretty (ahm) core to the game in its own way they could've put SOME effort into it. Esp after 6 years. Jesus.

[tame mantle]

I agree

I was hoping for the story to be something more than just “the matrix” but in space. And apparently the lore is also about the 4th race but idk anything about a 4th race. I ended up not resetting the simulation, but I was left with so many questions. Like yeah Nada survived her crashed freighter where the sentinels killed everything in 54 minutes, but that was a different universe, how did Nada get into ours? And if you don’t reset the sim it’s just “explore the galaxy”. That’s it? How did Artemis die? Why do you say goodbye to Apollo, even though you have decades to live? What did null do? Why did he kill so much to “see” everything? Why is the atlas dying? I don’t understand a lot of this plot.

Then again, nms is more about exploration and gameplay then lore. It isn’t lore heavy but it’s still an amazing game. Just my opinion

[tame mantle]

I thought you went into hilbert, then the next, in order

[glass flare]

there is some extra lore through some terminals I believe regarding Atlas -- apparently a black hole is consuming the star system where the Atlas simulation hardware is located. all the people on the planet peaced out long ago, and poor Atlas was left running. the implication is that there is 16 minutes left before the black hole consumes it or otherwise goes offline.

My own speculation is that the reason for the world glitches, Atlas becoming more corrupted etc. is due to hardware failures from the extreme radiation the black hole is putting out

[safe kiln]

The fourth race is the travellers

[tame mantle]

Wait so there’s a place outside the atlas simulation?

So the people made the atlas simulation and these people aren’t in it right?

[glass flare]

Right, although there’s some lore that suggests copies of the minds of some of the people are in the simulation

[safe kiln]

Yes, the travellers are formed from a corrupted scan of the atlas’s creator

[glass flare]

additionally, NMS's ARG "Waking Titan" dealt with some of the people who developed Atlas or a precursor to it

[blissful haven]

Does anyone have a list of missions that will not clear out of your log? I've completed both the atlas lass (crafted star seed and warped to a new galaxy) and Artemis quest but the missions seem stuck in my log.

[lapis holly]

bug.

i've all 3 listed despite finishing them.

[calm briar]

Just finished 95% of the story myself (just need to go through the center). What your saying makes sense and explains the "extreme gravitational anomoly" or w/e the ATLAS mentioned after going through the final portal.

[muted moth]

there are 6 missions that will stay around, 3 primary (the Space Anomaly, the Atlas Path, New Beginnings), and 3 secondary (Base Computer Archives, the Settlers, Exploration)

[leaden root]

Hello

[uncut harness]

So in that video it says there are 3 main species

[spare stream]

Hi

[uncut harness]

Depending on your definition, there are 6

[leaden root]

I should prob grab my laptop for the video lmao

Also what’s the atlas dosent NaDa think it’s a false god or smth

[uncut harness]

have you completed the artemis path?

[leaden root]

No just started a ghost in the washing machine (smth like that )

[uncut harness]

ah so youre pretty early on

[leaden root]

Yeah

[uncut harness]

If youd rather discover the lore yourself (which is much more fun imo), I can give you some tips

[leaden root]

Becuase they gave me an option to go down the atlas path when you first get to the anomaly

[uncut harness]

yeah

[leaden root]

Tips would be great

[uncut harness]

When you finish the artemis path, then do the atlas path

After that, make sure you talk and interact with everything, and do the side missions too

[leaden root]

Nah I feel like Artemis died from a mutated sentinel and/or his friend is going to betray us at some point

[uncut harness]

Archives, boundary failures, monoliths, travellers, crashed ships, travellers, etc

[leaden root]

I don’t like base building that much becuase I now have to get better equipment so I have to grind ferrite and stuff

I don’t like when that’s apart of the main mission

[uncut harness]

the base building is a tiny part of the tutorial

only at the very start

the expanding the base missions could be considered base building, but theres a lot more involved

[leaden root]

No Artemis’s friend wants me to upgrade my stuff

[uncut harness]

ah yes

[leaden root]

Including base

[uncut harness]

so you are at the expanding the base missions?

[leaden root]

Oh yeah and like a hour ago I finally got my freighter

It’s a A class as well : )

[leaden root]

Ig

[uncut harness]

That part of the mission branches out into 5 secondary missions

They have a bit of lore and help you get lots of useful blueprints

[leaden root]

Hey can you give me a hint to what happens to Artemis I mean by now I’m pretty sure he’s dead and may be like those guys your find on the space station that gives you the symbol locations wait is he already long dead by the time you find his communication channel

[uncut harness]

Keep following the story

It will all be revealed eventually

[leaden root]

Ok

[uncut harness]

You only have to do a little bit with the overseer at your base, after that you can get straight back into the main story

[leaden root]

Yay more farming

Wait were just apart of a simulation from the old atlas

@uncut harness

[uncut harness]

yeah

[calm briar]

Standing in front of the 4 galaxy types and can't make up my mind 😔. I might never actually finish the reset at this rate

[eternal radish]

Do you have a favourite type of planet?

[calm briar]

I decided to go with the green. I read a Fandom post that suggested the teal was similar to the starter galaxy

Figured I could always destroy reality again if I wasn't content

[eternal radish]

I also went with green.
I did teal in my first playthrough and that took me to Calypso, a galaxy similar to Euclid.

But I wanted lush planets.

So green it was in my second playthrough (now my mainsave).

[calm briar]

I will admit, I wanted to just have a nice time for a bit without constantly charging my hazard protections lol

[eternal radish]

Then lush planets are the way to go.

[cursive mica]

so was the war between v’ykeen and sentinels real or simulated and not actually real?

[heady wyvern]

Well... isn't everything simulated?

[cursive mica]

good point, the point is i love the idea that NMS lore evolves with the game and was thinking how awsome it would be if an in game event, or expedition, involved a y’keen group fighting sentinels again

[icy citrus]

The Atlas flat out says that each time it goes the same way. So we are heading to war, whether it actually happens in game is the obvious question

Or we break the sim

GLASS GLASS GLASS

[safe kiln]

didn't the vy'keen-sentinel war happen in the past, from the perspective of the player?

even when the simulation is reset, it is seemingly reset such that the player is placed at roughly the same point in time as they lived in originally

rather than exploring a young and completely new universe

probably for the better, considering there wouldn't be much to explore for about a billion years or so if they were placed at the start of a universe

and nothing of much interest for several billion years more

[glass flare]

that would be pretty cool if HG used the lore to telegraph the feature timeline to us years ahead of time

fleet battles pls

[safe kiln]

people argue that they did, in some cases

[gaunt heron]

I was following the Artemis quest line and I think I broke it slightly, I went through a portal and ended up on a bizarre planet where everything was a weird mineral coloum and my ship was broken again, I fixed the ship and logged off for the night,
When I reloaded into the game the planet had trees/animals etc like normal...

[safe kiln]

interesting

can you still proceed?

(did you enter your ship to save at any point when you were on the strange planet? you may still be on the planet you left from, or something)

[glass flare]

It should have ejected you from the planet if memory serves, I guess you saved and logged off before that happened?

I do remember that someone did research and the planet they use is a normal planet that they reskin for that narrative event, so what you're saying tracks

[gaunt heron]

I'm about to try continuing, just doing anomaly stuffs quickly

[glass flare]

If you have a save prior to going to that planet, that's probably the safer bet tbh

[gaunt heron]

I do have a earlier save but I'm not sure how far back it is 😆 the quest is allowing me to continue atm

I'd rather play the questline as intended actually, reloading the earlier save

[supple bramble]

the ultimate question

who built atlas

[hallow terrace]

you did :)

[uncut harness]

A scientist

[supple bramble]

wat

[calm briar]

So what's the deal with W/ARE. Do they talk about them in the game and their role within the simulation? Wondering if the traveler may actually be one of the original scientists from the atlas foundation mixed up in some lucid dreaming.

The Wikipedia article had enough info to let my mind run wild, but the archived references at the bottom didn't work for me.

[zealous dew]

What happens to my friends if I reset the simulation? :(

Like Apollo for example

[calm briar]

I believe Apollo experienced an abrupt end while you were racing to the final atlas interface.

Well, while he was racing, unaware you were already shopping for a new reality

[ancient mountain]

I'm on flesh on metal Bones on ps5 I see the symbol for the quest on this planet anyone know the portal glyphs to get there ?

Okegat-Fale XVIII region Doquerr Mass

[safe kiln]

all travellers are formed from a scan of the atlas' creator, so

[safe kiln]

they are reset as well

[cedar lintel]

Just checking, if I deny the Atlas do I have to find my way back to the final interface or can I just complete atlas seeds (if I do decide to reset the simulation)

[safe kiln]

You can only choose to reset there

During that quest

[heady wyvern]

Names mean nothing. The odds of anybody knowing where that planet is, is practically nil.

[calm briar]

Oooo, thank you. Found some more info on this. "Atlas instead attempted to understand why it was abandoned by seeding a digitized brain of its creator into its universes. The Atlas' creator takes the form of the Travellers."

I found some more info from waking titan about some of the users that had w/are dev kits and became trapped (sad i missed the game). One of the corrupted users was labeled "iteration" which lead me down that path.

[ivory jungle]

if i restart the simulation, what happens?

[hallow terrace]

you get slapped in a new galaxy

[ivory jungle]

and an i return to my current?

[hallow terrace]

yeah via tp/base portals

[ancient mountain]

Understood I figured out how to do more than one jump at a time using frigate so I'm ok now

[drowsy dune]

So I was reading the log for a crashed underwater freighter, and I’ve read hundreds of these and this was the first to make me sad. It details the story of two lovers, one becomes the captain and has to go on a journey while the other stays back. The ships engine fails and they crash underwater, far to deep to swim out. They survive as the ship was airtight and they eventually run out of food and resort to cannibalism. They all go insane and kill them selves. The final message of the log is “we drank the water KTZZ... we had too. I’m sorry, my love”

[cedar lintel]

nope

you choose to refuse and then you get quest called new beginnings or something which says the Atlas is dying, but on an alien timescale. There is plenty of time left to enjoy the galaxy. Just wondering if I can ever choose to reset anyways lol

[safe kiln]

not to my knowledge

[strong bluff]

@leaden root For me it was the moment when one Korvax decides to join you and stays at your base. And for this he gets disconnected from the Korvergence, which causes him eventually to loose his sanity. So you literally destroy somebody's life, even though u intentionally.

[haughty fox]

From what I understood, getting to the galaxy core is the alternative to resetting the simulation. You accept, the Atlas takes you to another galaxy. You refuse, you stay in Euclid and have to get to the galaxy core to change galaxy. So from the gameplay perspective, you never truly do the reset

[cedar lintel]

ah ok

"The Atlas waits for me, should I change my mind." always led me to believe i could reset anyways

[haughty fox]

It translates to "I can always go back to the galaxy core whenever I want"

Because lore-wise, the galaxy core hosts the main Atlas station. So while in the gameplay you just warp to the core and automatically change galaxy, from the point of view of the narrative you go there, enter the Atlas and ask it to reset the sim

Except you're not given a choice on what galaxy type you're going to end up in

[calm briar]

So just clarifying. We never actually help the Atlas. Just enjoy the fruits of its existential crisis?

As in, it only knows how to create, and creates the traveler and the galaxy(ies) to reason why it's creators abandoned them

This story is hilariously terrifying

[near prairie]

Yes but remember that’s how the story is playing out from the biased view of the atlas, even though the atlas is a machine it still has sentience which makes it fallible by definition

For example we don’t know the sides of the story from everyone else in the picture. Nada, Polo. Artemis, also Tesluk or whatever the hell the guys name is that got merged into your suit as your scanner

The atlas is presenting a very sympathetic view at its self but that does not mean that’s the true story or nature of things

There are snippets and illusions to the fact that the atlas is not quite as innocent as it’s making itself out to be. There’s a lot left in the imagination as to why it’s doing everything it’s doing under the guise of “research “and after having been “abandoned “

Why was it abandoned? Did the atlas become sentient and start using its power to mess with reality and the world that it was created in? Did it create a hell scape that made it unlivable on earth and forced humanity to flee to the stars to survive?

Did it kill its master and convince itself, lied to itself just like a human being lies to itself?

When you get into the realm of artificial intelligence and machines become sentient and acquire emotions and thought processes, that breaks from the hard logical and rational modes of mathematics second strain it, just like any person can then commit a horrible act and then convince themselves by repeating ally in their head over and over that they are the victims and not the aggressors. What are we to say that that’s not what’s happening with the atlas?

And what did Tesluk do the incurred the atlas his wrath? There’s so many instances and examples of the atlas string into very shady territory

But of course is the traveler when you go talk to the atlas, just like any other person, they’re not going to sit there and tell you the bad version of themselves. They are going to cry and beg for your sympathy

Which the atlas literally does in several encounters and has led to the famous atlas meme shots

That is example behavior of a psychopath that is inventing a story to garner sympathy and to hide it’s true motives and the evil within…

The atlas “claims to protect you. Does it? If you read the dialogue in its entirety it actually threatens you. It promises to protect you… Until the last moment when it’s ready to kill everything. That is not a promise to protection that is a veiled threat

Disguised as a glitch in the machine but there can be no glitches in the machine when it acquires sentience. The glitches and bugs become the feature thats how intelligence and consciousness works. It is paradoxically imperfect

If the atlas is smart enough to invent infinite iterations of a galaxy is a smart enough to figure out how to save itself from impending doom. It’s all a fabrication and lies

The atlas simply needs to invent a galaxy with the right physical conditions necessary to avert its death and then from there it study the iteration from start to finish infinitely like it does every other galaxy

It was literally designed to solve problems like that so it’s all BS don’t believe the lies of the pyramid my brothers!👽👽

[safe kiln]

Telamon is the entity stuck in your suit

[near prairie]

Thanks i was losing my mind trying to remember he name and couldnt think what the hell to google lol

[safe kiln]

I would argue that this is not really true for all cases, though

a number of things could be considered "bugs" or "glitches" in relation to human intelligence

for instance, an aneurysm

[near prairie]

of course agreed

however it still leaves a lot of questions unanswered as to motive, intent, etc

if it is theoretically the analogy of an aneurysm that would be a rather miniscule feat for ATLAS to solve , as a machine literally designed to study near inifitate iterations to solve problems

[safe kiln]

that's the thing, the Atlas is only powerful within itself. it seems to possess no means of interfacing with the world around it aside from a "korva" which seems to function as a scanner.

it can think all it wants, but it cannot make its own thoughts a reality

[near prairie]

i might disagree here i think theres many, many instances of ATLAS interacting in the physical universe

the interfaces i mean are literally called so - hundreds of billions of trillions throughout

[hallow terrace]

well... arent those interfaces for the atlas to talk to the people of the universe it made?

or am i confused

[safe kiln]

you're mistaking the universe of no man's sky with the universe that the atlas is physically present in

[hallow terrace]

^

[safe kiln]

in the atlas' universe, it is merely a machine

[near prairie]

the boundary between the two are failing though

[haughty fox]

Indeed, we're in a digital simulation. The true Atlas, the machine, is in the real world

[safe kiln]

no, the boundaries between simulations within the atlas are failing

[near prairie]

oh right sorry misread

[safe kiln]

the atlas isn't just simulating one universe at a time, it's simulating multiple

[near prairie]

Yes of course that all could be true that doesnt mean its version of the story is true

its still a biased narrator

regardless of physical location

[safe kiln]

and things "from the past" are leaking in from the world of glass as well

[haughty fox]

Each of which is supposed to host just one traveller, but now they're merged together because the machine is getting buggier and buggier

[safe kiln]

which is basically a cosmic recycle bin

[hallow terrace]

ok u lost me there whats the world of glass?

[near prairie]

I mean simple test of all of this: where do you get this info ?

Snippets from the ATLAS

it is therefore his version and cant be trusted as the true facts

it demonstrates sentience and a willingness to have emotions

if it can cry, scream,

it can lie

[safe kiln]

boundary failures and sentinel pillars give some of the info, actually

[near prairie]

okay some- granted. A lot of it from atlas dialogue as well

[safe kiln]

and neither telamon nor the sentinels appear to be particularly happy with the Atlas

[near prairie]

and again like all stories, ATLAS story is not 100% false

all peoples versions of events are somewhere in the muddled middle

[safe kiln]

there's a lot of evidence that the atlas is losing control of it's own simulations

[near prairie]

not saying its all a lie. i msaying that he is sentienet and has demonstrated the capability to lie if it wanted to

Of course again that doesnt disapprove what im saying