project-skyscraper

[cyan kraken]

is the poem still transforming according to the swap around system that was there?

[brazen prawn]

It is escalating as before

Double D2 operations

More Triples

[cyan kraken]

how many more cycles till its complete gibberish do you reckon

[brazen prawn]

There are now 7 distinct transform types: AS (adjacent swap), D2, D3, TL, TR, D2×2 (compound), and 4-cycle

[covert temple]

What'd I miss

[cyan kraken]

a blender, then

[ember wyvern]

TLDR the jumbled parts ain’t gonna help us. The unchanging part remains the main source of investigation.

[covert temple]

So I see you guys have been rocking the boat quite a lot

[clear surge]

I'm almost surprised "lights" hasn't changed

[brazen prawn]

Not my take

[cyan kraken]

the one issue is that the third line is dependent on all the others to give meaning, and the other three lines are now drunk

[brazen prawn]

Hard to say with the undos, but it follows a close enough pattern that it could be 2 more, but that's wildly speculative

[cyan kraken]

do we get something if we apply all 7 transforms to the third line?

[ember wyvern]

Maybe the answer is in relating the unscrambled line with the Sunday morning poem.

Dammit Jim I’m only logical not creative.

[brazen prawn]

Subjective imo

[rain verge]

Or her desire for June and evening, tipped

I've been poking at it, but nothing has been jumping out. An anagram seems possible

[cyan kraken]

the timezone for the architect is UTC +1 or just UTC?

because whatever june's light is could very depend on what actually is june for the architect

[ember sundial]

Just found out about this - What's the best way to get caught up? Do we have any goals to be working towards?

[brazen prawn]

No easy way beyond reading all of https://skyscraper.havenmap.online/ which is mostly up to date as of earlier today

[fleet star]

Anything new since last week?

[clear crow]

There is also the ET4RC sub topics for Project Skyscraper https://forums.atlas-65.com/c/project-skyscraper/54

[rain verge]

A poem called 'June Light' by a Wallace Stevens Award recipient: https://poets.org/poem/june-light

[turbid eagle]

oh buddy

[covert temple]

"anything new since I left? Stopped playing after NMS came out"

there's a LOT of new stuff

If I were you I'd check the havenmap for a timeline

[somber vigil]

[cyan kraken]

oN wing, on shodaw, on trace beneath nuJe’s lsight

No wnig, on shoadw, no rtaec enebath June’s lights

oN ingw, no shadow, on racet beneath Jnus ‘e ilghts

i tried transforming the third sentence according to all three sentence's respective states

[crystal kettle]

What if there is a pattern to how the sentences changed and the third line skipped the pattern?

[cyan kraken]

according to line 3 of a drunk website this shit hides the answer to world hunger

poem seems to follow the main theme of a summer romance

[clear surge]

I'm almost positive the 3rd line of the quote remaining unchanged is a nod to the third stanza of the poem. I'm just not sure what to do with it.

[cyan kraken]

falling through the light, blessed with truth
i mean, it does seem to be pointing that way

i didn't do waking titan, were alice and smith lovers?

[rose dust]

alice & smith was the name of the company running the ARG

[cyan kraken]

ah

[rose dust]

Not characters in the ARG

[cyan kraken]

demn that shot missed by a lot, huh

[rose dust]

If nothing else, its one one of the funniest messages to come outta this channel imo

[cyan kraken]

a classic corporation to lovers trope

[ember wyvern]

Birds AND Bees confirmed.

[cyan kraken]

and pear flinging, apparently

[covert temple]

That is true

[ember wyvern]

Guys we’re all losing it. Gonna go touch some grass on my paradise planet.

[brazen prawn]

The transform is a closed system problem when applied to line 3: the 7 operations only rearrange existing letters within the character pool of line 3. They don't have much to work with for coherency after transform

[rose dust]

touching grass is big' architect propaganda! get back in the cipher mines with us! 😛

[ember wyvern]

I’ve had a script running through all the numbered/indexed pages using the ?p parameter. I think I’m deep enough. Haven’t found anything we haven’t seen already fwiw.

[cyan kraken]

js or python?

[ember wyvern]

Python.

I ain’t doing no js.

[brazen prawn]

The API exposes that though

[cyan kraken]

a man of culture

[ember wyvern]

Yeah it helps it’s all open.

[brazen prawn]

I'm not sure I follow the logic

Here's a whacky one for the players at home: sec log slugs % 365 (mem blocs) -> DQT zigzag pos -> DQT0 value maps perfectly to the DCT coefficients in both jpgs 1:1

Extremely random

Can't apply it until about 4 or so more

[cyan kraken]

could just indicate same encryption method, no?

[brazen prawn]

Same as what?

[wide ridge]

So what's up with the latest memory bloc?

[cyan kraken]

for both tr4ce and img0004

[brazen prawn]

That's what I am talking about

[turbid eagle]

scrambled versions of Connection detected : Access denied

[cyan kraken]

not gonna lie, this does seem like a lead

the 3rd line of the corrupted poem could maybe be a cipher key?

[wide ridge]

Man, was hoping it would have something different in each line

[brazen prawn]

What I meant was that you can just request the full site, everything that is accessible is just pollable without needing to write a manual scraper

[ember wyvern]

@brazen prawn are there any watermarks/fingerprints in the images?

[cyan kraken]

funny thing is that this draws attention to line 2, but the poem only has line 3 as uncorrupted

[ember wyvern]

Otherwise could just be same encoding method used on both.

[brazen prawn]

I think you guys have the wrong end of the stick on what I am talking about

[cyan kraken]

line 2 in the poem is also the only one that has 7 words, all others have 9

[rain verge]

Have we found 3 or 4 red links in previous logs? The newest red links that redirect to the same log may be hinting that we need something from the other red links.

[wide ridge]

The data on the website isnt really hidden, what's hidden is the meaning behind it, right?

[cyan kraken]

yeah, i think in 2 of the sec logs

[brazen prawn]

I am losing my mind lol

[ember wyvern]

Possible. Very rusty ngl.

[brazen prawn]

Too many concurrent threads at once

[wide ridge]

Sorry, lol

[brazen prawn]

There's three topics interwoven, it's not your fault it's messy

@wide ridge What did you mean?

Topic 1 was scraping the site which isn't needed as it's all just there to request without a need to manually scrape

Topic 2 was about a weird relationship between some website values and the cryptographics signatures in the two puzzle JPGs

Topic 3 was about the poem stuff

[ember wyvern]

I lost track too tbh. I mean the images.

[ember wyvern]

This

[ember wyvern]

And this

Also what’s the exact string in the zigzag DQT?

[brazen prawn]

I'm not sure how to answer the question clearly, but the DQT is a byte table

The encoding was what I was talking about with the original statement

[ember wyvern]

Yeah what are the bytes? Any chance we could convert them as ascii?

Idk I might just be cooked and making no sense.

[thorn coyote]

I know a little bit of Python! Nothing much more than basics though lol

Also, and this may be a dumb question, the scrambled image, what does it sound like? The one from the reddit post.

[covert temple]

Numbers, I think?

[thorn coyote]

It looks like one of those, sound turned into image things

[covert temple]

or maybe that's the one they havent figured out yet

[covert temple]

spectrogram

[thorn coyote]

Yeah! That!! Im not familiar with how to do it, but I know it's a really popular trope in ARGs! At least what from what I recall from some old game theory episodes lol

[surreal turret]

Maybe it's a case that you need to change the line that's not corrupted, so it matches the interpolation of the other lines, something like a Fisher-Yates shuffle.

[cyan kraken]

the fisher yates shuffle is pretty random

plus, i tried the modification for line 3

[cyan kraken]

GUYS

IMAGE CHANGE

[astral badger]

image changed on Quote!

[rose dust]

oh fuck

[cyan kraken]

I REPEAT IMAGE CHANGE

[rose dust]

new image

[onyx pasture]

[rose dust]

IMG_00004_1.png

[hard spoke]

Woooooooo

[rose dust]

@brazen prawn guess its time to spin the jobs up again haha

[rain verge]

Not published on the sitemap

[ember wyvern]

Knock knock knock @brazen prawn back to it!

[rose dust]

try refreshing maybe?

[rain verge]

See for yourself: https://project-skyscraper.com/image-sitemap-1.xml

[compact python]

Its the place where the statue was ? Kinda recognize the tall grass

[rose dust]

or maybe jetpack will take a while to build it

I dont think the urls update instantly

[astral badger]

I swear someone in this chat or on the forums found this image when looking up the area in the modern day- ah well there we go

[rose dust]

image timestamp attached: <t:1113391699>

[rose dust]

oh shit

[rain verge]

Oof, has anyone been to the physical location yet?

[rose dust]

I guess this is kind of image injection

[hard spoke]

Validated

[rose dust]

yea the person in the post

[clear surge]

So I was right we inject data by those channels...? 😄

[rain verge]

Ah, I thought we'd had google maps pictures before and that's what they'd used.

[cyan kraken]

yeah, a fellow traveller from the french discord

[rose dust]

Honestly sending someone to the spot felt like an early shot. Im insanely surprised that it worked

[astral badger]

same. The mad genius...

[compact python]

Same

[iron crest]

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🖼️ New media upload — https://project-skyscraper.com/wp-content/uploads/2005/04/IMG_00004_1.jpg (2026-05-25T17:55:20Z)

skyscraper_watch • 2026-05-25 18:05 UTC

[rose dust]

@torpid linden congrats and thanks so much for getting us to this next step!!

[compact python]

Oooh god..so now we will have send pepole around the world to random places? (jk)

[rose dust]

WT did have live drops but those were all well coordinated in advance. This one definitely felt like a bit of a leap

[ember wyvern]

Welcome to ARGs(sometimes)

[ember wyvern]

Yeah I feel like we could also have just found an updated image online and sent it.

[astral badger]

I'd wager just finding the location online would be enough, so we don't have to go to the place irl. That being said I'd totally pick up and go if anything turns up in my locale

[compact python]

I kinda hope next spot will be near me.🤭 near to null chances tho

[ember wyvern]

For me it’s absolute zero chances.

But hey we’ll see.

[torpid linden]

Happy I was able to help 🙂

[brazen prawn]

@torpid linden if you're willing to share the actual file attached to your tweet (with exif scrubbed) that would be very interesting to me to be able to do some comparison work

Would need to be somewhere that won't alter the compression

[compact python]

Great job !

[cyan kraken]

should we still bother checking out the atlas building?

[compact python]

Maybe just not yet

Untill puzzle will reqire it.

[rain verge]

I guess, technically, all the red links could be seen as "corrupted" blocs. Has anyone tried sending a clean photo of the Atlas building?

[rose dust]

Maybe someone could take a picture from the outside and tag the account? We cant go inside so that's a dead end though.

Also, I guess this confirms that the method of sending data is via Twitter / Bsky posts

[rain verge]

Ah, the Architect's image of the Atlas building is, itself, corrupted. We could try sending the original image that was used to create the project skyscraper image.

[astral badger]

tried an @ on bsky using a different image but we'll see if anything's up

[cyan kraken]

or DM-ing on ETARC

[astral badger]

poem changed again!

we have "wings" now, third line finally changed

[rose dust]

Sent a tweet and bsky post w/ the image and some "uncorrupted" lines from sunday morning stanza 4 that might be the originals that it expect

[cyan kraken]

goddamn, architect chugged some good coffee today

[astral badger]

third line is now "Wings, no shadow, no trace beneath June's lights,"
godspeed Architect, doin a lotta work today

[rain verge]

Alright, so we have to find the shadow and the trace? Trace seemed to be an access denied message from atlas-65.com

Err, TR4CE*

[astral badger]

more validations are happening on Twitter- someone got a hit from posting a verse from a poem

[covert temple]

this is peak

bomberboi the architect responded

[rose dust]

validated

OH

[cyan kraken]

HUH

[rose dust]

I got a reply too!

[covert temple]

i cant screenshot fast enough

[rose dust]

I think mine might be for the atlas building

[covert temple]

kang-cheering-meme.gif

[cyan kraken]

damn kinda hate that my x account got hacked a while ago and got blocked now

[rain verge]

We broke 16 live connections on the main page as well (I see 18 live connection attempts)

[astral badger]

Good lord THE POEM IS CHANGED AGAIN

[turbid eagle]

what's the difference between validated and validated fragments -- are those like partial hits?

[astral badger]

"Or her desire for June and evening, tipped" is now the third line

[rose dust]

Someone said the architect is writing on etarc rn

[covert temple]

"As April’s green endures; or will endure
Thye visanh ni sinlece wrehe elsi ihde.
Or her desire for June and evening, tipped
hyTe rea the awakened evening hatt tikc truhogh itme."

[rain verge]

We need to find the other two lines from 'Sunday Morning'

[astral badger]

Validated more of the poem on ETARC!

[rain verge]

April and June were easy, but the other two lines must line up somewhere.

Full validation on the site.

No corruption, but the unstable tag remains

[compact python]

Wow

[ashen gale]

Let's gooooo guys!!

[cyan kraken]

poem changed

[turbid eagle]

boom!!

[astral badger]

Poem uncorrupt!

[cyan kraken]

its basically the poem

[compact python]

Letsagoo

[rain verge]

I knew it was no coincidence xD

[iron crest]

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 Thye visanh ni sinlece wrehe elsi ihde.
-No wing, no shadow, no trace beneath June’s lights,
-hyTe rea the awakened atwches hatt tikc truhogh itme.
+Wings, no shadow, no trace beneath June’s lights,
+hyTe rea the awakened evening hatt tikc truhogh itme.

skyscraper_watch • 2026-05-25 18:25 UTC

[rose dust]

Or her desire for June and evening, tipped

Ooh we got it right!

[compact python]

Nice

[covert temple]

"As April’s green endures; or will endure
Like her remembrance of awakened birds,
Or her desire for June and evening, tipped
By the consummation of the swallow’s wings."

[twilit quartz]

https://bsky.app/profile/skyscraper-prj.bsky.social

https://x.com/skyscraper_prj

Project Skyscraper (@skyscraper-prj.bsky.social)

Sky is not the limit

Bluesky

Project Skyscraper (@Skyscraper_prj) on X

Sky is not the limit

X

[turbid eagle]

nature is healing

[rose dust]

Im guessing more peoplle need to send in posts?

[rain verge]

20 live connections. I guess they aren't connections to the site, they're connections via social platforms.

[rose dust]

no they're site connections alright

[covert temple]

that sounds about right

but what of?

[wet salmon]

updated again

[rose dust]

looks like we restored the whole thing

[wet salmon]

yup!!

[rose dust]

Yay team!!

[compact python]

I cant keep up with this slow glass phone 🤣 🤣 🤣

[turbid eagle]

hell yeah!

[wet salmon]

this is super exciting

great job guys!

[astral badger]

god you guys are so freakin smart I love this community

[ashen gale]

🥳 🥳

[covert temple]

lets gooo

[wet salmon]

wish I could say I helped, but I’m just an observer 😂

[covert temple]

i tried to help lol

[rose dust]

so these all turned out to be a stanza 4 line. interesting

[ashen gale]

Same 😂 😭

[rain verge]

Yeah, it's the last four that lined up with the April and June lines.

[wet salmon]

is “her” possibly referencing the Void Mother?

[harsh vapor]

Ahh, so was the solution to send the original uncorrupted images/poem to the architect?

[compact python]

[compact python]

We where not sure if we can spam him with messages

[rose dust]

Im glad we figured out how to submit responses. Thisll save a lot of time for future puzzles most likely.

[covert temple]

well are we waiting for the next thing to open up now or

[rose dust]

RIP @brazen prawn though, looks like the DQT stuff didnt come into play (atleast yet)

[rain verge]

project_skyscraper Twitch DMs disabled. You can still post in the (offline) stream chat.

[covert temple]

vector took one for the team

F

[clear surge]

But we couldn't have know the solution from the original poem, they don't bear any resemblance 🤔
Maybe that was just a prelude to this game, to get us watching

[rose dust]

Im guessing we'll get another update to remove the unstable tag from the post now

[compact python]

Yeah. But nothing yet imply to use it for now.

[covert temple]

someone on the atlas forum says the date could still be wrong

[rose dust]

could be the final nail in the coffin

[wet salmon]

well, I’m off to bed now..
I can’t wait to catch up on hundreds of posts tomorrow 😂😭

[covert temple]

wonder if we'll get a memory bloc restored from this

[compact python]

1915, 1923, 1912(shadowcheck)

[rose dust]

oh good point. what URL showed the progress on those?

[astral badger]

now that we actually have an idea of what to do, it's gonna be a wild next few days. Especially if the date is the last thing we need to stabilize that bloc

[covert temple]

uhhh i'm not sure honestly

i'll go scramble to look

[compact python]

Good bye sleep

[astral badger]

havenmap has a count of memory blocs on its front page if that's any help!

[rose dust]

its not updated live

[rain verge]

I think it's any link to the images themselves: https://project-skyscraper.com/tr4ce/

[rose dust]

Oh gotcha, I saw that on one of the footers but wasnt sure if there was a seperate url or not

[astral badger]

Thankfully it's only 3pm my time so I'm getting the thick of it right at the easy part of my day. I AM gonna be dreaming about this tho, I can just sENSE it

[cyan kraken]

oh brother

[rain verge]

The images are on their own posts sometimes and they all have that footer.

[covert temple]

yeah im hoping ts doesnt take a whole year

however, we push on

[rain verge]

This one is actually more likely to update if they don't all update at the same time: https://project-skyscraper.com/project-skyscraper/

[iron crest]

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-karD birds aer insivible no the April’s gniht kys,
-Thye visanh ni sinlece wrehe elsi ihde.
-Wings, no shadow, no trace beneath June’s lights,
-hyTe rea the awakened evening hatt tikc truhogh itme.
+As April’s green endures; or will endure
+Like her remembrance of awakened birds,
+Or her desire for June and evening, tipped
+By the consummation of the swallow’s wings.

skyscraper_watch • 2026-05-25 18:35 UTC

[hard spoke]

Have we solved the shadow check thing yet

[rose dust]

im guessing its pulling in from a footer saved somewhere which gets automatically pushed everywhere when changed by the PM?

[clear surge]

It'll be part of a template, I'm guessing a default one

Because the media entries don't show a template

[covert temple]

what the hell

[rain verge]

Almost certainly, but I'm covering the obvious bases xD

[covert temple]

hold on

[somber vigil]

also for anyone who hasnt seen yet, the architect has made an appearance in the ETARC forums - "injection data validated"

[astral badger]

criminey, I just checked that earlier and it certainly wasn't like that!

[covert temple]

🤨

[rose dust]

yep, they've done so in a bunch of places now, respondning to several sources

[compact python]

Check the hex

[rain verge]

That's new as of at most 30 minutes ago

[rain verge]

Is this confirmed? Doesn't show up on mobile

[cyan kraken]

confirmed

[covert temple]

How? I don't see it either

[rose dust]

me neither

[cyan kraken]

wait, see the image?

[astral badger]

That's what I've got as well, and what I saw previously when I checked it

[cyan kraken]

or the cloudfare page

[covert temple]

yeah

[rose dust]

same here

[hard spoke]

I guess thats new

[covert temple]

don't be so sure, none of us can see it

[rose dust]

asked em on ETARC

[covert temple]

i saw

hope they respond soon

[hard spoke]

project-wt.com doesnt show that page

[cyan kraken]

its time UTC -4

in that image

location wise is what, USA?

[rose dust]

false alarm guys

[covert temple]

damn

[hard spoke]

In fact atlas-65, myriad-70, multiverse doesnt either

[cyan kraken]

ye gods and little boarlets

[hard spoke]

The fact that it shows that page and not a black empty screen says something

[harsh vapor]

I'm getting DNS errors for all those sites tho

[hard spoke]

its the only WT site that does

[compact python]

Two diffrent times ..one on wt glyph one on site

[cyan kraken]

poem page updated, tagged as stable

[astral badger]

AYYYY

[compact python]

Nice!

[hard spoke]

Stable!!

[iron crest]

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skyscraper_watch • 2026-05-25 18:50 UTC

[covert temple]

no new memory blocs yet

[compact python]

Block restored.... 1 i bet 😆

Has to be

[rose dust]

oh hold up

since that footer shows up on all of the images

[ember wyvern]

Damn guys. I guess you solved it while I was away. Well done!

[rose dust]

I wonder if every image might be resolvable by just tweeting the original out at the account?

[compact python]

I doubt it

[ember wyvern]

And now we know where to submit stuff!

[rose dust]

Did someone try it with tr4ce yet?

[compact python]

I think not

[cyan kraken]

what would the original be for tr4ce thought

[rose dust]

Absolutely the most crucial takeaway from this whole thing. And we've got a clear goal now too w/ the 365 block restoration

[rose dust]

a screenshot of the architect's original post on ETARC

[compact python]

Yeah..huge W. Or WT even

[covert temple]

someone's trying to solve the changing message now

[cyan kraken]

do we have the link to the original message? last we saw, it was hidden

[cyan kraken]

twitter/bluesky/ETARC

those are it, right?

[compact python]

The ones where architect posted yes

[cyan kraken]

but surely for tr4ce it can't be as easy as reposting the image

or a screenshot of their post

[covert temple]

yeah that's my hangup

that'd be

awfully simple

[rose dust]

underwhelming for sure

[covert temple]

suspiciously simple

[cyan kraken]

no harm in trying, i guess?

[covert temple]

true

[cyan kraken]

but we need to see that post first

[ember sundial]

if anything, to rule it out

[cyan kraken]

and its hidden

[covert temple]

can forum leaders access it?

[rose dust]

I have the post on a different tab wait

[ember wyvern]

I hope I’m around for the next set of solves!

[rose dust]

sent the tweet. highly doubt this one will work though

[cyan kraken]

just messaged one

[cyan kraken]

oh demn ok

fingas crossed

[rose dust]

ooh interesting

the reddit image's sec log page also has the memory bloc footer

[cyan kraken]

i think all images have em now

so that means we have to go around figuring all corrupted stuff, which is fair

[covert temple]

hey i have an idea

might be a bad one

but

They can see the tower, but not the one inside<

someone on the atlas forums sent a pic of the atlas building

and you can see someone inside

perhaps this image needs to be sent to the architect too?

[cyan kraken]

might as well?

[lapis hare]

so this is 100% fanmade?

[covert temple]

we still don't know

[lapis hare]

ah k

[astral badger]

Unsure! fun as hell so far tho

[rose dust]

yes but im not talking about the image page. the actual security log for that one has it too. I KNEW I saw it on a text page...

[ember sundial]

I'm hedging my bets on the opposite

[cyan kraken]

so, each page associated with the corrupted data has it, i suppose

[hard spoke]

Seems to polished to be fanmade imo

and a lot of resources

[rose dust]

the quote page doesnt strangely enough. Hell I think this is the only non-image page with that footer?

What if this is the main intended page to check for progress?

[cyan kraken]

is this the first page that shows intrusions?

if so, that might make sense

[rose dust]

nope, the first one was the WoL, followed by 2 pages for the ETARC post

Its also extremely funny (and insane) that we're already trynna solve the next steps immediately after solving the first one haha

I'm guessing https://project-skyscraper.com/tag/unstable/ is gonna be a link to bookmark to keep tabs on the current "active" puzzles going forward?

[covert temple]

smart

[astral badger]

unstable for active, and stable for solved methinks!

[covert temple]

^

[cyan kraken]

do we have the link for the post that's screenshotted in TR4CE?

[rose dust]

oh shit

the skyscraper image has sthe glitching reality tag now on the API

was that there before?

[cyan kraken]

where?

[rose dust]

doesnt show up on the frontend page though

[astral badger]

The Architect, frantically trying to set up phase 2 after we've solved the first instability and are currently chewing on the door like rabid dogs for more things to solve,

[cyan kraken]

also

[rose dust]

yep its reflected in the image stiemap too

[cyan kraken]

which tag is the glitching reality one?

[rose dust]

attachment tags

[astral badger]

nothing from the Architect on Bluesky after I tagged the account with a pic of the atlas building, but I'd imagine they're busy with the sudden heat this got

[cyan kraken]

oh, 16088

[rose dust]

tbf, they did go ham today with the progress lol

[astral badger]

man have they ever

[covert temple]

yeah i wasnt expecting any of this

[cyan kraken]

shit went from 5 to 950

[covert temple]

and the schedule still indicates a twitter post sometime tonight, no?

or has that changed

[hard spoke]

Agreed lol

[rose dust]

This throws the waiting theory out the window though. like sure, they're gonna send us puzzles on set times, but we're definitely meant to solve what we have rn

[covert temple]

good

i've waited enough for LNF

my waiting budget is good for the next few years

[astral badger]

I like that they had to rattle our cage a little bit today. Updating the page so many times until people started experimenting with sending images. Still amazed that worked

[thorn coyote]

Heyoo!!!!! I'm glad we thought of the poem as well. Seeing the image not being glitched out launched that into my head so I recommended it over on Atlas-65 and someone managed to get the right part!!

I mentioned this over there as well but thought I'd share it here, too
"In relation to the line

“They can see the tower but not the one inside”

What about this

To quote directly from the end of the article here,

Eventually guards discovered that, after a period of consistent monitoring and prompt punishment against perpetrators, inmates began to regulate their own behaviour. They couldn’t see a guard and yet they were regulated by conscience itself. An external reality had thus become internalized and became habitual.

And from Google

The concept originates from an 18th-century institutional design by English philosopher Jeremy Bentham. It consists of a circular building with a central guard tower. Inmates are placed in individual cells around the ring, facing the tower. The inmates are completely visible to the guards, but the guards are hidden behind shaded windows or partitions

"

Ooop article link didn't share. Here it is https://fs.blog/the-panopticon-effect/

[spring condor]

https://project-skyscraper.com/tag/panopticon/

I put Panopticon in the website url and it says it can't be reached

[rose dust]

thats just the standard 404 response

[spring condor]

ahh I see

worth a shot lol

[cyan kraken]

not too sure that'll fit, though. because if they refers to US here, the people solving the puzzle, we can see the person in the tower. so, yeah, panopticon fits whats written, idk if it fits the tower too

[thorn coyote]

I'm wondering if the corrupted image that was posted to Reddit is a Panopticon. There are a lot of them world wide ya know?

[astral badger]

Real hard to tell. There's some sorta repeating texture in the image, and you can see it clearer if you mess with the hue/saturation/brightness. If it was a panopticon, they definitely messed it thoroughly up

[thorn coyote]

I was messing with the same stuff earlier and thought I saw writing almost for a sec but was probably just my brain trying to see a pattern any pattern

[spring condor]

What if it is reffering to a windowless tower?

apparently there is a windowless skyscrapper on 33 Thomas street in New York

Built to house telecomunnications equipment

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33_Thomas_Street

[compact python]

I got an hour or two before bed so what are we tacklin now ?.

[astral badger]

Nothing right yet- seems like we've entered an intermission. The Architect is quiet and the pages on the website haven't updated since the poem was stabilized

[rose dust]

the glitching reality attachment tag seems to be used now, though it doesnt show up on the front end, and the memory bloc we stabilized hasnt added to the count yet. I'm guessing we're in a bit of a downtime until the architect sets up the next steps?

[astral badger]

good time to get up, have a stretch, get a drink, and thank the Architect for a fun time :]

[covert temple]

yeah i agree

[steady niche]

So was the solution going there in person or just saying that it's not there anymore? I'm not clear

And what site was that on? Twitter?

[turbid eagle]

The solution was to "un-corrupt" everything on the page.

I don't think going there in person was necessary, but sharing an uncorrupted image of it alongside the restored 4 lines from the 4th stanza of Sunday Morning were the key

true to my nature, I over-thunk just about literally everything 😂

[rose dust]

We posted a lot of things and the architect started picking em up. It started with the in person image of the statue location, followed by replies to people who posted the 4 target stanzas anywhere (ETARC and Twitter from what I gleaned)

[turbid eagle]

yeah and eventually we started realizing there were four specific lines it was attempting to restore

[rose dust]

Yep, and then piece by piece the page started uncorrupting until it changed to the new stable tag

[steady niche]

So the entry points are Twitter, ETARC (just one thread?), and bluesky?

[turbid eagle]

ETARC DMs I think as well

[astral badger]

seeming like it! No reply on bluesky but I pinged them at a very active time so it might've just been missed

[rose dust]

Seems like anywhere the PM is tagged I believe

[steady niche]

Ok. That seems a fairly low tech interface method

[rose dust]

The only exception is their twitch chat but I highly doubt anyone tried pasting the lines there.

[solar sonnet]

This seems pretty thought out tbh

[rose dust]

Sure as hell made me jump seeing a reply 😅

[steady niche]

Great, 5 am, back to sleep. Thanks for the updates

[compact python]

Actualy i could use some rest. I need get to the bed soon if i want to catch some free time to help tommorow.

[turbid eagle]

sweet dreams my little angel

[rose dust]

im supposed to wake up again in ~2 hours lmao, guess coffee's gonna have to carry it

[astral badger]

rest well y'all~! the madness will undoubtedly still be here tomorrow

[turbid eagle]

good work everyone

[compact python]

We know. We just dont want to miss any of it

[rain verge]

Their DMs are off and I pinned them in their (offline) stream chat

[thorn coyote]

I took a screenshot of where you and I started to piece that part together after seeing the image no longer being glitched out. Proudest moment in all my time playing games lol 😂

[eternal cave]

wow congrats lmao

[thorn coyote]

This is the first time in a long time that I've felt a part of something bigger, so thanks everyone! Imma take a break for a bit. Solve everything while I'm gone!

[eternal cave]

i just woke up

[surreal turret]

Plenty to go still - I get the feeling things will pick up hard from Wednesday onwards..

[haughty anvil]

what is project skyscraper?

[bold moon]

Some kind of code name for the engine

[astral badger]

That's a question with an enormous answer. Check out the havenmap site in the pinned section and it'll give you a rundown

aside from the project name for NMS I believe- it's an ongoing ARG of a yet-unknown origin for NMS

[haughty anvil]

oooh sick

thx for telling

[turbid eagle]

in a nutshell
it's a digital escape room also known as an ARG (alternate reality game) where we work together to solve puzzles and riddles which eventually lead to something and we're hoping that something is No Man's Sky related and we're really hoping it's being run by Hello Games, but that is not confirmed yet.

[haughty anvil]

thank you for telling me

[turbid eagle]

treating it as fan-made for now

[haughty anvil]

ok

[brazen prawn]

I'm half asleep, but that was it?

Damn

I'm getting back up on the fence on this one for now

[covert temple]

It's not over

we're just in an intermission rn it seems

[brazen prawn]

I mean the solve

[covert temple]

oh

[compact python]

Yeah we got too hard into code side from the start but i bet it will be needed later

[brazen prawn]

I'll just keep an eye open for now then and see where it goes

[rain verge]

You just gave them ideas for phase two

[wide ridge]

Im guessing I missed something

[rain verge]

Naw, the party's just getting started. We just finished the appetizer.

TL;DR: a DM from the architect indicated we had to inject good data into the corrupted datastream which resulted in us sending (at least) 4 relevant lines from 'Sunday Morning' to the architect via social media, that cleared the corrupted data and stabilized the only currently known unstable memory bloc: https://project-skyscraper.com/2005/04/13/quote/

Oh, sending a current photo of the corrupted photo location was our first step toward uncorrupting/stabalization.

[wide ridge]

Fascinating...

"Remembrance" immediately jumped out to me

[turbid eagle]

Worth noting that this security log does contain "memory unstable" at the bottom. The "action required" on this page is to "determine security status" but I'm not sure if that's a system directive or for us. Haha
https://project-skyscraper.com/2026/05/14/sec-log-172832/

[rain verge]

April and June in the first and third lines keyed me into that section, especially because it was about birds and followed a similar structure. We didn't really know what to do with it most of the day though. It kind of all happened at once.

[turbid eagle]

weird thing is this page doesn't appear in any site searches for "unstable"

[rain verge]

The image posts have the same thing. It seems like it's part of the footer and might not be part of the post itself. https://project-skyscraper.com/tr4ce/

[wide ridge]

The reason it jumps out is because of the word's importance in nms

[turbid eagle]

Right? Like a widget they only applied to this page for some reason

[wide ridge]

A technology granted by the Atlas itself, functioning as a key to its own memories

Well, a key for us to access the memories

[rain verge]

Wordpress has two types of articles (I guess): posts and pages, each of which which can have their own set of templates so it might be valuable to keep track of which pages have that footer in case it changes, or only changes on certain pages.

[turbid eagle]

For now this is the only page with Memory unstable. Recovery in progress. (along with the 0/365 completed restorations/verifications)

[rain verge]

We still don't know the architect's motive. All we know is that someone sent a WoL request to Project Skyscraper and is attempting to wake Process ID 16 (presumably Atlas).

The architect could be who created this Project Skyscraper, but they could also be attempting to wake the neural network.

[wide ridge]

I wish I could figure out how relevant some of this stuff is, lol

"Like her remembrance of awakened birds" makes me think of how you need to complete both the Atlas Path and the Artemis Path in order to install the tech to even view the remembrance logs

[rain verge]

A big part of ARGs like this is collaborative brainstorming. Something you find may seem unrelated or irrelevant/minor but it flips a switch for someone else or encourages them to try something new. And that is how progress is made.

[wide ridge]

You have to be "awake" to the truth of Atlas to access remembrance

[wide ridge]

True, it just feels like my line of thinking is a bit disjointed from the rest of the poem

It would imply that my reading of it suggests that April represents the Void Mother/Atlantid and June represents Atlas

[steady niche]

I thought process ID 16 was what was creating the logs

[wide ridge]

Nothing else really connects them

[rain verge]

I think that's valid. But I, personally, think that the poem is more to set a tone at this point and not a direct allegory.

[turbid eagle]

same, or the process being logged about

[covert temple]

do we have more to do now?

[turbid eagle]

we're making more to do

[covert temple]

oh?

[turbid eagle]

(lol idk I'm just messing around)

[steady niche]

I still think img00004 has something in it

Apparently it's not needed right now, as it doesn't seem like we have a task, but I think there is still more information to be gleaned

[turbid eagle]

who knows, it could come into play later

[rain verge]

Maybe, I guess the WoL went to a broadcast address so whoever sent it was just trying to activate anything/everything on the network.

[turbid eagle]

probing for security vulnerabilities?

(thus shadowcheck)

[wide ridge]

If I happen to be right about the poem, though, it could kinda fit with the possibility that the Void Mother is a version of Emily, should waking titan be connected to this

[half ibex]

Is there still a part of the poem puzzle that needs to be completed, or is that part already considered complete?

[steady niche]

I think we consider that complete

Having the "input" method be DMs on social media makes me heavily lean towards fan-made, but I still think it's fun

[rain verge]

It seems to be complete, we don't have any obvious ways forward right now, just speculation.

[half ibex]

I was thinking of posting on the forum the image of another of the artist's works that La Canardière made and a part of the poem that is the ending.

[steady niche]

I don't think it would hurt anything

Someone posted his 112 sculpture earlier

[rain verge]

Interacting with NPCs is not uncommon in early stages of ARGs in my experience, even "professional" ones.

It ensures we're aware of and following communication channels that will be used in the future, and allows the PMs to control the flow of the game and dole out lore and hints as appropriate.

[steady niche]

Interaction isn't the thing that makes it feel less professional. It's the DMs. It doesn't matter to me right now anyway, just commenting since we have nothing else to say right now 😛

[covert temple]

I mean, i've heard either HG or Alice & Smith had to give us quite a nudge back during Waking Titan, too

[turbid eagle]

yeah that was brutal haha

[covert temple]

but I guess messages being the complete means of communication could be a sign of it being fanmade

[rain verge]

If I'm going completely out of game, I think we missed some clue or some other solve on a puzzle and had to be kind of walked into solving this poem puzzle. The DMs to the architect may have been a plan B or C.

[covert temple]

It's still got crazy timing though

To indicate the 28th towards us long before we knew an update was coming the day before

[rain verge]

If it's tied into the next update their timings may be pretty tight.

[covert temple]

or possibly the day of

[turbid eagle]

honestly I think we were just over-thinking the solve
it was pretty simple really -- our urge should have been to "fix" the poem, resolve the discrepancy. But instead I personally became fixated on everything not in the poem. 😂

I figured the words in the corrupted poems were leading to a string or password of some kind

[rain verge]

Do you think it was solvable before the addition of the month names?

[turbid eagle]

yeah, there was enough there

[iron crest]

🛰️ Project Skyscraper — 1 change(s) detected

🗺️ Image re-uploaded — https://project-skyscraper.com/2005/04/13/quote/ lastmod 2026-05-17T09:49:11Z → 2026-05-25T17:55:20Z

skyscraper_watch • 2026-05-26 00:30 UTC

[steady niche]

It's also the WT anniversary, so it might have just lined up with that

But to be fair, I was guessing an update this week or next a month or so ago

[covert temple]

i figured it'd be in this timeframe

but i wouldve thought last week or next week

not this one

[half ibex]

I dont see any change 🤔

[steady niche]

I think it's just recording the new image?

[covert temple]

neither do I

basicmaths what do you think

[steady niche]

it says re-upload

[turbid eagle]

yeah looks that way. The time is old too

[covert temple]

about the officiality of this whole thing

given what we know now

[turbid eagle]

Like I've said before, my brain tells me fan-made
My heart tells me it's Hello Games

[covert temple]

i see

[steady niche]

Was the image title IMG_00004_1 before? I don't recall the _1

[turbid eagle]

yeah that was there before

(for the second image)

[steady niche]

coolio

[turbid eagle]

the first one didn't have _1

[half ibex]

I think that if it were made by fans, there would be no reason for the devs of the previous game not to participate.

[steady niche]

Not being interested in doing so could be a big reason 😄

[wide ridge]

I think, regardless of whether we get some big reveal the next few days, the update might provide some clarification

[turbid eagle]

the timing is pretty uncanny, and there is a lot going into this ARG, and the PM appears to be very involved/dedicated to seeing it through.

Which leads me to believe whoever it is has resources--time being chief among them

[turbid eagle]

It wouldn't surprise me at all to see a community expedition that runs parallel to this ARG

[rain verge]

Was anybody around for the Portal 2 ARG? It started with clues found in a game update. It's possible, if it's official, that this doesn't end with the update and that they just wanted to get a trailhead up so people were alert to look for clues in the update.

[half ibex]

Another thing is that we don't have another site with the current status: visible, which recently appeared in QUOTE, which makes me think that maybe we have to wait, but I don't know.🤔

[turbid eagle]

I feel like they dropped that as a hint
I remember during WT, if we didn't get a clue fairly quickly, they'd slowly escalate the clues until it was kind of obvious

[wide ridge]

The curse of making a puzzle

[half ibex]

If it's official, then the deadline for resolving it would be August or September, around the anniversary.

[wide ridge]

Constantly worrying that its too obvious that you end up with hints nobody picks up on

[steady niche]

Trust me, we'll be picking apart the game files 30 seconds after release on Steam

[covert temple]

yeah wednesday can't come soon enough

[wide ridge]

Bruh I miss not feeling much anticipation for nms updates, waiting like this kills me

[covert temple]

yeah normally i dont care all that much

but theres enough weird shit going on rn

I'm intrigued

[ember wyvern]

Well then whoever made the arg has succeeded.

[covert temple]

guess so

[turbid eagle]

the hype before Atlas Rises and NEXT was intoxicating

when NEXT was finally revealed we melted down in voice comms

[ember wyvern]

God I remember the screams.

[turbid eagle]

I can still hear them to this day

I think some of us needed a change of pants

[steady niche]

It is Wednesday!...here

[clever condor]

Lowkey kind of miss it though. This definitely reminds me of those days. Even if its not official I can thank it for bringing back the vibes of the past.

[steady niche]

I need to update all my files from 6.36 tonight after work so I can do proper diffs on the update

[turbid eagle]

yeah I've been getting similar vibes and I'm just coasting on that right now, fan made or not, they've stirred something in me I haven't felt for a while

[ember wyvern]

Where in the world is it Wednesday?

[steady niche]

Korea

Oh sorry

[turbid eagle]

lol freakin Venus or something

[steady niche]

We had a holiday so my days of the week are all messed up

[turbid eagle]

understandable

[ember wyvern]

Someone check him: we’ve got another corruption!

[covert temple]

Jupiter

[cyan kraken]

nope

[ember wyvern]

Rest up agents. We're gonna need the energy in the future stages.

[steel urchin]

😮I don't know what is this project about does have to do with the new update coming out soon❔

[ember wyvern]

The best answer we have is maybe. Probably not.

We don’t know yet basically if this directly involves HG or not.

[thorn coyote]

Ekimo is going to have so much to update on here lol https://skyscraper.havenmap.online/#credits

[ember wyvern]

But it’s a cool arg so far.

[ember wyvern]

Oh yeah he is.

[steel urchin]

🧒🏻Ok, I see

[steady niche]

Honestly, just credit "participants in ETARC, NMScord, etc". There are too many individuals involved

As someone else said, it's a group effort and one person's thought that doesn't work can be the inspiration for the final step. Crediting the person with the final step isn't quite accurate

[rose dust]

I'm pretty sure the game detectives wiki goes in depth with that when an ARG concludes but, I agree that just acknowledging the group effort for our own bookkeeping is probably the best way forward. There's a lot of overlap everywhere with ideas

[steady niche]

I wish we could consolidate more. Having multiple threads on ETARC, this Discord channel, probably other Discord channels, multiple websites, Reddit, Twitter, Bluesky, etc etc is just too disparate

It would be nice to have like levels. Discussion in one discord channel, more firm theories get posted to a message thread, confirmations or news on a website, something like that

[rose dust]

Agreed. I've been mostly active here and on ETARC, but that too feels like we're spreading ourselves thin and leaving space for a lotta overlap. would be nice to have a dedicated space for everything to point people from the entire community to

The only issue is, the_architect seems to love ETARC so cutting that outta the equation entirely doesn't seem feasible

[steady niche]

I like having ETARC, but I think it needs to be a little more orderly, like not just multiple trains of thought bouncing around in one thread. Anyone that doesn't already know what's going on can't catch up

I don't know if the answer is more topics or what

But trying to keep up here and ETARC is a chore for sure

[rose dust]

It could work alongside a more streamlined set of posts. The Sunday poem topic being split off was useful in consolidating the answer I feel, while others worked on different ideas in the main thread.

[ember sundial]

The voyager haven site seems pretty good for at least recapping, but not so much conversation

[steady niche]

haven is helpful, but even I have trouble finding anything there when I already know everything that has happened

[compact python]

Morning

[steady niche]

Maybe a separate thread for each "puzzle" on ETARC, but you need someone to decide what qualifies as a puzzle

[rose dust]

A more prominent head post would be useful to avoid a lot of the pitfalls we're seeing here, but again that ultimately falls towards users actually taking the time to read and not just rushing to post. The same would probably be true for any other platform.

[rain verge]

Who do we have to talk to in order to pin a post?

Or a link?

[compact python]

Each X/bsky post as puzzle? At least the first ones.

Hm

[steady niche]

We would ask the mods

Basically, have a discussion about it and if lots agree, ping the moderators AFTER that

[rose dust]

We saw that with the Sunday morning post so it is possible.
Besides, with this one being a good headway into how the puzzles might operate, we should probably be able to streamline that process better going into the future

[jagged sonnet]

What's an ARG?

-# ❓ What is Project Skyscraper?
An ARG (Alternate Reality Game) is an interactive experience that uses real-world platforms (websites, social media, emails, phone numbers, images, etc.) to tell a story or present puzzles that players collectively investigate. The defining feature is that it blurs the line between fiction and reality: the game presents itself as if it's real, and players engage with it as detectives piecing together a mystery. They're usually collaborative by nature, as communities form around cracking clues together.

Project Skyscraper ARG

-# ❓ What is an ARG?

The Project Skyscrapper ARG is centered on the website: project-skyscraper.com that has been quietly populating posts, and was first surfaced by ETARC forum moderators on May 15th.

-# ETARC has been the longstanding NMS community hub where the community's first ARG, Waking Titan was orchestrated by Hello Games and the ARG's designers at the time, Alice & Smith (2017-2018).
Project Skyscraper involves a fictional entity known as The Architect, interacting with participants across various sites including X-Twitter and Bluesky — with content that appears connected to the established lore introduced by Waking Titan.
-# The name "Project Skyscraper" is the original internal development codename Hello Games used for No Man's Sky before release making this ARG's name a very deliberate signal aimed at longtime fans.
As for whether it's official, it has not been confirmed by Hello Games. The depth of lore knowledge has kept the "possibly official" door open, but fan-made is the working assumption. Therefore, we also cannot assume this ARG has any relation to the upcoming NMS update.
-# See other pinned messages for helpful links. If this or any other information pinned needs updating, please #contact-us.

[steady niche]

Are there other chatroom/discord places people are using?

[compact python]

Morning BB managed to rest a little?

[rose dust]

Trusted users (those who've been talking for a bit on the site) can create new threads anytime theyd like. Mods ok the site can pin any post to the category.

[steady niche]

No, Gunter, I will not ignore and I will not carry on!

[harsh vapor]

Honestly even just another channel for only updates and key info would be helpful

Super easy to miss stuff atm

[rose dust]

Got a few hours in after having to head out for a bit. It's just enough to take on new architect puzzles though haha

[compact python]

Did architect posted something in last 6h?

[steady niche]

My quick thoughts would be point to here for any chatting about anything at all SS related, have topics for each active puzzle on ETARC for slower, slightly more stable stuff, with a pin at the top of each describing the current state, then the haven site for long term documentation

[jagged sonnet]

Please try #contact-us

[rose dust]

Yea and with how rapidly the PM can move the whole thing along as we say yesterday, havenmap probably can't keep up as quickly or as accurately as people who're working on this live can.

[rain verge]

Would a Google Drive and associated files be effective? https://drive.google.com/drive/u/3/folders/1LDvpAShBsPkzyNK0P7hU5MUIFJdNruP7

[steady niche]

I think Google Drive tends to be kind of ugly, and ETARC needs a prominent role

Might be helpful as just a repository

[rain verge]

A collaborative file with open edit rights and an authoritative document with a restricted edit list to keep things organized?

[rose dust]

ETARC can definitely serve as a good hub for everything (if people follow the sticky post and try their best not to get sniped into silence) with some better organization (much like a certain other platform we're all too familiar with)

[steady niche]

Maybe even suggest everyone that tries to communicate with architect to use ETARC. Might make it easier for the puppetmaster, too

[rose dust]

The main thing holding it back so far was just being unaware how the puzzles operate which made separate investigations a lil hard imo

[steady niche]

Yeah, for sure

[rose dust]

Oh definitely. It's also the only platform where we can see when they're online.

[steady niche]

I need to go get ready for class. I'll be back in maybe 3 hours. I think we should make a list of possibly unresolved puzzles and then start building a setup and suggestion for the ETARC leaders to try to clean this stuff up before the 28th

[harsh vapor]

Like an ETARC thread just for updates would be nice, just as long as the thread would only be update posts and nothing else

[rain verge]

I think linear methods like forums and discord make it hard to catch up if you aren't monitoring them regularly. A document with quick-hit information is really useful when working with large, disparate teams.

[rose dust]

Sounds like a great use of the current down time for sure

[harsh vapor]

This, but it’s pretty much just the haven site light at that point tbf. It does have the benefit of being easier to keep up to date tho

[rose dust]

And it's best for said document to be hosted by a collection of people who're all working together on said thing.

I've got a thread discussing the overall narrative of the ARG so far on ETARC. Replies to the thread are for adding on and discussing details as well as fixing errors, and then I go on to add relevant info from there to the top post which everyone can see immediately. That's a good way to approach a comprehensive info post on ETARC too imo.

[rain verge]

I created a collaboration file with open edit rights

[harsh vapor]

Hopefully people can behave and it doesn’t delve into chaos 😆

Worst case a handful could have edit privileges and it could be bumped to suggestion only

[thorn coyote]

Also, just popped into my brain, we’ve all been saying there isn’t a way to interact with the blocs that have the blinking cursor…

What if we inject code or responses into there the same way we did with the poem? POSTing on socials with the right string or words attached?

Like for example, what would be a proper way to respond or what would we actually type here if we could?
https://project-skyscraper.com/sec-log-211927-full/

[rain verge]

Eh, we'll feel it out. It seems like it's not popular with the current crew so it might not be useful as it is.

[rain verge]

We don't really have a good endpoint to POST to in the traditional HTTP sense, but the architect's DMs didn't really actually say to POST anything, that was just our interpretation of "inject"

[thorn coyote]

I was more using it as a less and also literal sense lol just posting on social media but we all thought it was a POST before we figured it out.

But still stands, the poem page was fixed by posting the proper fixes to the bloc on social media and tagging the Architect/project skyscraper. Maybe we do the same for these as well, but those who are more tech inclined might know the actual code language that would elicit the proper response.

If the system could actually be accessed where the cursor blinks, what would someone actually type to get a response.

Then we share that on social media.

[steady niche]

I think shared with multiple or add edit permissions to multiple people. Don't make it completely open

[rain verge]

I guess a few very simple commands might be:

• whoami
• pwd
• ls

[rose dust]

wonder if whois would make a return, but we'd probably need a few names revealed for that to work

[rain verge]

I made 2. One that's fully publicly editable, and one that will have a restricted edit list.

[rain verge]

If we're going down that path it might be worth it to try commands from WT as well: https://wiki.gamedetectives.net/w/Waking_Titan/Console_Commands

[brazen prawn]

An open edit file will be a nightmare. You will be risking your account, also. I would strongly suggest not to

[ember wyvern]

Open edit files are highly unrecommended for ARG tracking.

[harsh vapor]

If I have some extra time I could try and do some writing up for that doc, actually did some of the wiki editing for the WT game detectives wiki

Wild that that was nearly 9 years ago 😮‍💨

[brazen prawn]

Everyone's free to exercise their own will, but it also really needs to have consensus around it to be of aid. There are already many disparate locations of discussion, each with their own fractured focuses and the more that get added without wrangling people the more diluted it all gets - it's bad enough currently

All we're going to do is create 365 memory fragments of our own

[harsh vapor]

Very true

[steady niche]

Good idea! I'll make a new discord server for that /s

[harsh vapor]

Might as well make a new server for each puzzle as well 😛

[rain verge]

Personally, I'd recommend the Discord forum style threads and attach them to this room, but I don't have a lot of control over that and it would fracture ideas out of the main stream which is detrimental since we don't have an absolutely huge amount of people posting in here.

[compact python]

YES! To document every failure atempt so others will learn on our mistakes

Time to check skyscraper pages 9999-9999999 🤣

Done

All give 404 🙁 (jk)

[rain verge]

When participating in TBW operation echo we had a small team that created daily recap documents that were added to a shared document. It was nice to have a chronological recap of everything that happened which was a little closer to the stream of consciousness in the forums and discords, and was a great place to point new people as they came in to see what was happening. But, it does require at least a couple people willing to keep it updated.

[compact python]

Btw is there a good WT step by step recap on YT?

[cyan kraken]

also, they see the tower but not the one inside. it could just be architects. someone posted this train of thought on ETARC, and it does kind of make sense?

i mean, the photo that the architect uses, that's not the actual building, its kinda like the clipart of the building

but its pretty detailed one, somewhat like the one an architect would use as an "artist's render" of the final building

and while they do see the building, they have no idea who will be using the it, or better termed, who the people inside are

and someone here told me NMS was orginally project skyscraper, or the game engine is skyscraper, no?

if the analogy translates, it could pretty much just be referring to sean, or the entire dev team of NMS

since they are the architects of this, and while they did have a vision of how they want the game to be, they can't see us, the people inside

[compact python]

I mean . U wont get more //16//16//16//16//16// and //glass//glass//glass//glass//glass// than in hearst tower

[cyan kraken]

that's a proc gen building if i ever seen one

[compact python]

Base was made in 1928

[cyan kraken]

https://i0.wp.com/project-skyscraper.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/project-skyscraper.jpg?ssl=1

do we have the uncorrupted image?

[compact python]

We have

[harsh vapor]

Wasn't the uncorrupted image submitted?

[cyan kraken]

can i also has pls

[compact python]

Search by media

It was posted like 2nd image in channel

[cyan kraken]

found it

that's the side view of the building

[compact python]

2017

[cyan kraken]

one year after NMS launch

[compact python]

Name of nms update few months after they started the construction:
ATLAS RISING.

COINCEDENCE !??!

I think not

[cyan kraken]

i swear, i think the answer to the building is literally just NMS

either that or the HG team

[sour vault]

Odd

Any updates

[rose dust]

I posted it alongside the poem and got validated, so no clue if it was talking about the poem or the image.

[steady niche]

I think that meant "they see the tower but not the tower inside the tower"

[compact python]

Maybe this is 'secret' HG hq and tbis is what they did with game release money 😂

[rose dust]

Ah, so the secret deaf kids room was a full tower 😛

[rose dust]

Heya Gumsk! Posted the points we went over about organising ETARC over there, feel free to add / correct any points I might've missed or gotten wrong!

[steady niche]

Looking back on when they seem to have started working on Light No Fire, I realized they might have had some idea during season 2 of Waking Titan. Not sure if that matters, but thought I'd mention it.

[rose dust]

The earliest mention of "something else" I remember is from around Beyond's release. I think Sean mentioned back then that they've been working on it for a bit, so WT S2 could definitely have overlapped

[brazen prawn]

So are we assuming there is a forensic angle here at all still, or just a digital escape room / amazing race type deal?

[quartz plinth]

HG is residing inside Buckingham Palace

/jk

[stray prairie]

Yes. Kyle Culver has a 14 video recap that is really well done. The problem is he never finished it. But it covers most of the beginnings of WT. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJoJTAyBOTM&list=PLJG-TR0XPQ4ZzGLyaOpvuUeVuzVt1jrx4

[rose dust]

I don't think the rest of the puzzles would be the same "find the original" shebang. Besides, with an (as of yet) dormant twitch, it looks like we'll have a variety of puzzles / events. Id wager at least some of them would feature a steganographic / forensic approach, even if the current ones might not.

[compact python]

Saw it. But is there a complete one somewhere? I also sended him a coment to finish it bc new one is potentialy coming . Maybe this will motivate him

[steady niche]

I think we just don't know, really. I think that one crazy image is the biggest question right now, but not sure what to do with it.

[harsh vapor]

I think the forensic approach is useful to keep in mind, but I don't think we have much evidence that we should dig deep into it

[steady niche]

Commented

[brazen prawn]

If that's the consensus from the coordination side then I'm just gonna clean up some of the reports from last night so they're useful and spin down to sleep-mode

[steady niche]

I think we're mostly waiting until the 28th

[brazen prawn]

Guess we'll see what happens over the next few days

Still keeping the 28th and 9th in mind

[harsh vapor]

I must have missed something, what is the deal with the 28th/9th?

[ember wyvern]

Thank you @rose dust and @steady niche for the attempt to organise our efforts! Will make it much easier to coordinate if we can get even part of the suggestion incorporated.

[steady niche]

28th has been hinted a couple of times in some heartbeats I think. Also the anniversary of Waking Titan

August 9th is the anniversary of NMS (depending on platform)

The next scheduled post from PSS should be the 28th

[brazen prawn]

9th for me is June (as well) from the post ID pattern - but it's likely another oddity anyway

I don't frequent the forums, which thread is this?

[steady niche]

https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/project-skyscraper-no-mans-sky-arg/9095/1626

[brazen prawn]

Cheers

Oh, it's the main one, ok yeah... a 1596 post thread is an awful lot to try and consume and coordinate in. Hope the changes go forward as well

I was aware of it but assumed we were talking about something else

Coffee required lol

[steady niche]

It's already 40% bigger than any of the Waking Titan threads

[brazen prawn]

Sifting through the general background noise is a task all of it's own

[compact python]

It shows how much pepole loved WT

[steady niche]

I think the problem is that we went straight from "is this a thing?" to "what the hell is this thing?" to "how do we solve this thing?" With no time to organize in between. Plus a much larger player base

[compact python]

And now we wait for next big thing

[ember wyvern]

Most of the coordination for WT happened in Game Detectives and A&S discord so that’s why.

[compact python]

Ooh

[ember wyvern]

ETARC was treated as more in-universe conversation.

[harsh vapor]

Yup, from what I remember most of the updates you could catch up were on a google doc or the wiki, or pinned in the discord

speaking, of, having any sort of ability to pin messages in here would help a ton

[compact python]

Mods can pin most important/useful stuff

So when we got something we can ask to pin it.

[formal harness]

What was his twitter handle again?

[steady niche]

Yeah, best to not let random people pin 😄

https://xcancel.com/skyscraper_prj

[formal harness]

Martins I mean

[steady niche]

oh, one sec

https://xcancel.com/griff_

I don't see it now, but I previously saw him retweet or something

Maybe it was a like and maybe that doesn't show on xcancel?

[rose dust]

Not a repost, it was a like

Wait I have a picture

[round marlin]

What has been found yet? I found the list with all the dates thingy, security logs and reddit posts

[rose dust]

Original tweet by NoMansZine, they reached out since they couldn't send the image on ETARC

[formal harness]

Thanks for the link!

[round marlin]

I don't know if this can be useful and it has probably already been found, but :

https://project-skyscraper.com/2026/

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/1tczflq/connection_detected_access_denied/

[steady niche]

https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/project-skyscraper-no-mans-sky-arg/9095

https://skyscraper.havenmap.online/

[surreal wagon]

im new here and im confused. What is the project Skyscrapper? I thought they r working on only 2 games: NMS n LNF

[compact python]

In gaming, ARG stands for Alternate Reality Game. It is an interactive, real-time mystery that turns the real world into a playground, blurring the lines between fiction and actual reality.

Instead of playing through a traditional video game or watching a standard TV show, players become detectives who investigate clues hidden across everyday platforms.

Here are the core elements of how an ARG works:

Real-World Clues: Developers or "puppet masters" plant secret codes, websites, phone numbers, or even physical GPS coordinates in the real world.

Transmedia Storytelling: The story is told using a variety of media, such as hidden audio in spectrograms, fake websites, YouTube videos, and mysterious social media accounts.

Community Driven: ARGs are too massive and complex for one person to solve. The player base must collaborate online to piece together the narrative.

Evolving in Real Time: The story unfolds as the community solves puzzles. If players fail to solve a clue, the game's story changes dynamically to reflect that.

Many video game studios (such as the creators of Overwatch, Halo, or The Binding of Isaac) use ARGs to tease upcoming announcements, new characters, or hidden lore.

[steady niche]

Skyscraper is the name of the game engine in NMS and, presumably LNF

It was also the early name of NMS before it became NMS

@surreal wagon

And we have no idea if this is official

[surreal wagon]

whoa, ty for the effort to write it all down. Interesting

[surreal wagon]

I see, I got unconfused now xD

[cyan kraken]

and also the answer to that statement about those who can see the tower but not the ones inside

i feel

[rose cipher]

if an ARG is indeed starting now, surely that adds credibility to the theory that this is update is also the start of a lead up to the summer update?

2 months for both the ARG to ramp up, and whatever this update foundationally sets up to sit and stew in our brains making us restless for the anniversary.

[steady niche]

It's possible, but not probative

Even we that aren't connected to HG were generally guessing an update about this week, give or take a week

And most people think there will be a 10th anniversary update that is fairly large

Whoever it is has a very good knowledge of NMS lore, is very organized, and has put a lot of work into this. Beyond that, have fun.

[clear surge]

The quote page was a blast

[rose dust]

One hell of a rollercoaster of emotions and energy lmao

[clear surge]

I think it was a fun entry puzzle, but also we have an idea of the story themes of the overall game

[compact python]

Deep lore knowledge deff makes it easyer to spot some hints and paterns.

[harsh vapor]

I just got a flashback of staying up until like 3 in the morning listening to the howard stern show just to listen to one of the radio broadcasts for WT 😂

[steady niche]

I hope knowing that we are supposed to DM makes things easier going forward. Not knowing really what they wanted us to do was kind of frustrating

[rose dust]

Half the challenge was figuring out what to do and how to submit anything tbh. With a bit more of the pattern for the puzzles down the rest should hopefully be easier / more methodical to approach.

[clear surge]

Frustrating, yes, but also a fun challenge in itself. The hints were there, but figuring out how to interpret them was part of it.

[steady niche]

I really don't think there were any hints about what to do with it

[compact python]

But it was fun having a collective brainstorm to tackle the problem

[steady niche]

But yeah, it worked out

Anyway, yeah, it was fun 🙂

[compact python]

Too bad we are so nice commiunity. If we where less nicer community we would spam the architect way earlier 🤣

[rose dust]

I'm sure they were banging their head watching us failing at figuring out how to submit it lol

[compact python]

And screaming at the screen

[clear surge]

You could virtually feel it in the edits 😅

"Come on, see the hint, it couldn't be clearer!!!"

While we're sat here going "huh?"

[steady niche]

We were like, yeah, we know the picture is wrong, we know the sculpture is gone, we know the poem doesn't match, but what do you want us to do about it? Insert? Uhh, ok?

[wide mist]

Yeah one has to be a really patient and calm person to orchestrate an ARG

I‘d get frustated too quickly lol

Backseat gaming is already a thing I‘m prone to

[rose dust]

I wanna imagine that picking are they tick as the first glitched words was em thinking out loud that we're thick in the head 😛

[compact python]

Can we invite architect here ?

[harsh vapor]

I have a feeling the architect is already here, always watching...

[clear surge]

I'm positive they are, but not with the architect name

[rose dust]

Might have a hard time finding a consistent username for use in here, but I keep checking periodically if they seem to be in here

[steady niche]

Yeah, maybe sort by time joined and look for march and april?

But really, we know they are on ETARC, so just there is fine

[rose dust]

Yep, they made their presence known there on the main thread yesterday too. so if are here, I'd expect em to drop a Injected Data: Validated here when appropriate

[steady niche]

I have a feeling just halfway watching ETARC is plenty of a time commitment

[brazen prawn]

So are we currently on the panopticon echo, or which?

[steady niche]

I really don't see the panopticon connection, but I could easily be wrong

[wide mist]

We need to check every french person in this server 😅

[clear surge]

There is currently no unstable post

[rose dust]

Now add on the countless posts we've been sending their way on Twt and BSky and you can see how nightmarish it might be, especially now that more people are gonna try tagging em for future puzzles.

[clear surge]

The security logs are, I think, just hints on how to connect

We'll probably get a new post when the next phase is ready

[steady niche]

I'm not convinced the person is French

All the wordpress pages have the timezone set to london

[brazen prawn]

Stack trace then? Whatever we want to call it. Visible thing with thing inside echo

[clear surge]

Probably dated between 2005 and 2026

[rose dust]

Oh yea, you're probably right. I'm guessing the correlation between connection attempts and posts detected by the accounts was supposed to be the hint that "hey, this is how the system recognized y'all"

[rose dust]

Their Wordpress language seems to be set to French though, going by the user page and default category names. Might be a french person living in the UK?

[steady niche]

I'm also not convinced they are in London/Guildford. I just am not sure 🙂

[rose dust]

Or maybe a deliberate red herring?

[steady niche]

Yeah, either of those

[clear surge]

Or, they could be a team

[steady niche]

Maybe we'll find out later...maybe we never will 😄

I'm still going back and forth on asking for this Atlas Pass v4 for my birthday present

[clear surge]

It doesn't really matter, it won't be part of the puzzle, but it is fun to see what we can deduce

[rose dust]

I hope they're not a solo PM for their sake. This is gonna get annoying as hell for whoever's running it if social media posts are gonna remain the main way to submit answers moving forward...

[steady niche]

That's why I feel DMs are a hint that it's fan-made. A professional would know how unwieldy that would be and would have it be somehow automated. But I'm guessing completely

And it might change

[harsh vapor]

The vibe I'm getting is solo PM

[wide mist]

It would have been funny if part of the ARG had been actually physically going into the Atlas Tower but only people with the pass would be able to enter

[harsh vapor]

everything is put together with ready made tools (not that that means anything of effort/quality, just not put together with the resources of a larger team)

at least nothing yet points to that

[rose dust]

Imagine explaining to the building management team that some shady looking people with strange cards are gonna walk in to the building talking about connections and that they have to let em in 😛

[devout oracle]

If it is just one person (I also think so) they will get a nice shiny unique role if they join here, as well as my thanks for the fun

[compact python]

Welllllllllll . Technicaly it cpuld work if u explain it properly to the right person while being nice and all. They can have eyeon u all the time if they want . Building is monitored anyways.

Its not a bank

Yaknow

[brazen prawn]

So I guess that is a no to my question before?

[compact python]

SHINY!!!

[clear surge]

About the panopticon? No, I don't think that is a puzzle.

It's probably saying the system only allows connections from outside.

[steady niche]

Just need a ladder/clipboard and a yellow vest and confidence

[steady niche]

I'm not saying it's me, but it's totally me. Make me shine

[devout oracle]

You always have bb

[compact python]

And good lie for backup

[astral badger]

I can tell you full confidence, as someone who works at a place that has people with yellow vests and clipboards coming through asking for access to mechanical rooms a lot, we don't have time to check the validity of EVERY single dude with a hi-vis that comes through. It almost for sure works

[stray prairie]

Someone should just go take a picture of the building IRL, post it and tag the Project. That worked yesterday.

[astral badger]

we don't know yet if we need to go to these locations- I believe bomberboi sent a picture of the Atlas building that anyone can find on google and got a "verified fragments" response

[clear surge]

We definitely will not need to go to private residences

[steady niche]

Outside might be something, though

[stray prairie]

Yes, but the injection of Le Forgeron was validated with an actual picture from the guys in France. They went there and took it. I'm not saying go to private residences. The Atlas building can be viewed from outside.

[steady niche]

The Promenade de l'Orge was in a public place

[twilit quartz]

Friendly reminder about ARG rules listed here: https://forums.atlas-65.com/t/project-skyscraper-welcome-info/9206

[astral badger]

O yea, I'm not saying it won't work- I'm saying that we don't know if it's required or not. Plus, ARG rules do stipulate against going to real locations. The promenade is a 24-hour park and also I believe that the picture was taken before the rules about safe conduct with the ARG went up (I thiiiink? Might get slapped with a correction on that)

[brazen prawn]

Could someone please confirm the contact/injection points for the "architect"? Is it @ posts, or DMs for SM, and does it include forum DMs?
I wasn't awake when it was going down and want to clarify for future.

[clear surge]

Posts tagging them on X/Bsky, public posts on ETARC.

They have responded to at least one forum DM, but I wouldn't expect them to accept answers that way (since they can't publicly post to confirm it was accepted).

[brazen prawn]

OK that's what I thought. Just been a few mentions of DMs and wanted clarification

[clear surge]

There is also the #projectskyscraper hashtag, which I assume is a valid method

[cyan kraken]

should we be expecting anything tomorrow, on wednesday?

[steady niche]

I think the most reliable thing is a DM on ETARC

As long as you don't flood them

[steady niche]

Next scheduled post is the 28th, by the previous pattern

Every 60 hours

[rose dust]

Isn't it near midnight 27th?

[cyan kraken]

i wonder if we'll get update news on thursday

[steady niche]

Not sure on the exact time

We'll get an update on Wednesday around 1pm London time, or mayyyyybe Thursday, 82% sure

On a normal update, I'd say 95% sure, but this one is odd

[ember wyvern]

It was a public place so somewhat less of an issue but let’s all be sure to enforce the rule now on if anyone suggests going to a physical place.

The guidelines were up before they went tbh. Though I think we all lost track in the chaos.

[wise stump]

Laylaps

[steady niche]

Before or after, I don't think there was anything wrong with going to the sculpture location. Just make sure to cut anyone off mentioning going to a private place

Trigger pulled, asked for Atlas Pass v4 for birthday

I don't think my mom can figure out how to buy something on Ebay though

[compact python]

And real one is not commmon.

[uncut pendant]

Whats this

[compact python]

Perfect copy will cost more than 16$

[steady niche]

Whaaaaat? I can't afford that! In this economy?!?!

[jagged sonnet]

What is Project Skyscraper?

[turbid eagle]

05/27 at 22:40 UTC

[dawn wedge]

This is the best thing to happen since WT.

[turbid eagle]

ditto

[dawn wedge]

I imagine this is an introduction to ARGs to a few new folk.

[solar sonnet]

If this is official it'll be awesome

[dawn wedge]

🤞

[compact python]

I have a feeling . If it is official they will try to keep secret till the end

And tieing the end with some game update

[dawn wedge]

Above average planning and execution has gone into this, even if not official the effort being given should be applauded.

[solar sonnet]

I think tomorrow will probably end up confirming or denying

At least it'll point heavily imo

[compact python]

I think this update will not confirm it. But we will see

[clear surge]

The themes are very autophage-y, so I anticipate it linking to the void mother

[solar sonnet]

My thoughts are that if it does end up being the big update without being a part 1, it'll mostly deny it

The streamer stuff has my attention but we don't really have anything to go on other than that though

[brazen prawn]

"What is up gamers? It's your boy, The Architect here - we're gonna kick todays stream off by abandoning Atlas and leaving the planet!"

I'm quite keen to see what it's going to be used for

[turbid eagle]

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[steady niche]

One of the really interesting points is that the people involved here and at ETARC know each other and know all the active people that would know this much about lore. It would be weird for some rando to show up running something like this, or someone we know to have enough time to do this

[dawn wedge]

I love it. It’s definitely fueling a few things I’m reading as I’m popping in and out to keep myself caught up.

(I’ve even gone to the extent to source a laptop so I can potentially get myself a little involved with this.)

[twilit quartz]

Btw, I agree. I think that was the purpose of this website: https://skyscraper.havenmap.online/ made and shared by @somber vigil. See relevant pinned message. Perhaps you two can help coordinate something to centralize the information?
-# Disregard, if this has already been discussed or addressed.
-# Ps. Don't hesitate to reach out via #contact-us for any ideas or suggestions on how our team can help support your efforts, including requesting pins.

[ember wyvern]

Yeah a lot of old timers around for sure.

[somber vigil]

yea i now gotta update it again today for everything that happened yesterday but this was my attempt at trying to document everything as this ARG goes on - also im always welcoming any changes or additions anyone things would be good for the tracking website 😄

[brazen prawn]

It's been an incredibly useful summary tool given the volume of posts

[rain verge]

I'd mostly been brainstorming since you're just a single person and we've grown in number (and information volume) quite a bit since the site went live.

[somber vigil]

i was gonna look into if there was anyway i could set up an automation updater for basic stuff but yea its just been me so far - i gotta find them again but two others have offered to help

[brazen prawn]

If you want a hand with tooling, point me at a repo and I am happy to help when I can

[rain verge]

If you want some help, even if it's just compiling information for you to upload later DM me.

[somber vigil]

honestly i would love some help getting info out of here and compiled - nmscord is the last major place i was gonna add as credits

also vector i may lean more into your scanning youve been doing in a seperate page (tbd) but i think itll be needed for after the 28th

[rain verge]

Possibly a coincidence, but project-skyscraper.com uses titan.email as their mail host.

[compact python]

INNNNNNNNNNNTREEEEEEESSSSTIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNGGG

[covert temple]

god we'll all be fucking nuts by the time this is over

I can see it already

[turbid eagle]

that's my secret cap
I'm always fvcking nuts

[brazen prawn]

Good thing I am already nuts

[compact python]

TOOO LATE

[covert temple]

I guess it takes a little bit of crazy to analyze a poem for three days just to miss the most obvious solution

[brazen prawn]

RIP 🪦

[covert temple]

tbf how were we supposed to know you had to fix the poem

didn't seem too obvious to me

[steady niche]

I'm off to bed, but I get the feeling from the pretty much bland response to our posts that we are going to have to come up with a very precise plan of what we want for organization if we want to accomplish it. Most on the ETARC thread don't care

[turbid eagle]

I guess the PM very graceously assumed we were interested in fixing things, not making them worse

[turbid eagle]

rest up, we'll come up with a plan
though it likely won't fully fall into place until the last minute or mid-puzzle

[somber vigil]

see thats the thing about these - youre not suppose to

too easy ARG's as we'd run through them waiting on them to release more info while the whole time we were missing what the architect wanted us to do

i was literally about to POST bomb him 🤣

[clear surge]

We spent days researching space objects, and it was fascinating

[turbid eagle]

I was in the middle of drafting a message to reply back with when they started validating data injections on social media

[covert temple]

hell I went through the trouble of finding the night sky for that particular night the Quote page was dated

At the specific location the picture was taken

[somber vigil]

i sent one on x of the right spelling of it but he never got back to me 😭

[turbid eagle]

dedication.

[covert temple]

Even though that lead didn't go anywhere it was still cool to do

[clear surge]

I learnt that 13th April 2005 was a surpringly uneventful day

[brazen prawn]

ETARCers, are you a double post for two things forum, or a edit your post forum?

[covert temple]

puppetmaster had my ass looking like Khonshu rewinding time

[somber vigil]

i try to edit unless its been a second

[clear surge]

Edit is encouraged, you even get a badge

[covert temple]

kind of glad there was a simpler solution because that was a very starry night

[somber vigil]

same with todd

[brazen prawn]

OK, so normal people lmao

Thanks 👍

[turbid eagle]

same, or unless it would cause confusion, like if my last post was a reply, and my second is something unrelated

[brazen prawn]

Just wanted to be sure. A forum I frequent is quite the opposite and no one bats an eye, and it is a 10 year old post with 8700+ pages.

There is no "hey buddy, slow down" ever

[somber vigil]

yea thats the nice thing about the ETARC forums - they love to be organized

[rose dust]

Yea, I was pretty disappointed when the convo shifted gears immediately, but I guess that's how big main threads go.

Best course of action would probably be to jump some of the leaders on discord directly with a list of ideas, and try work out how implementing em might look like with their help. Or maybe create a separate thread to discuss this?

I think @dusky forge recently joined the server (but I see another account) but I'm not sure what other leaders are here on discord (apart from Devilin Pixy)

[brazen prawn]

I'm probably not helping the flow currently 😅

[turbid eagle]

May help too, to have a dedicated thread for organization discussion.

[brazen prawn]

Absolutely

[turbid eagle]

tough to have a focused convo on the general thread

prob get more traction that way

[brazen prawn]

With potentially... stricter rules to reduce noise?

[rose dust]

Haha, just came back to add this 😅

[compact python]

Threads would be helpful . For help materials or similiar topics

[rose dust]

I'll go ask a leader to split the post into a new thread as well as gumsk's reply

[turbid eagle]

We could have a master organization thread
which links to all puzzle threads from the top post
and each puzzle thread's top post compiles the latest info in one spot

[covert temple]

What about a dedicated category to skyscraper, one channel for discussion/work shopping, and/or threads for leads, then another that solely has Ekimo's tracker in it

[clear surge]

Perhaps we can use threads here too for specific puzzles vs general conversation?

[covert temple]

So the site updates are in one place

[brazen prawn]

I would die for this - or two channels

[rain verge]

This is the happiest path to me. Curated by one person and solved puzzles can move down the post while active puzzles get moved to the top.

[covert temple]

If there was one suggestion I would campaign for it's a dedicated channel for Ekimo's bot to post updates to, so they don't get lost in the sea of messages here

if possible

[rain verge]

Or, even just a single, locked post that links to all the active threads

[dusky forge]

Yep. I am here just lurking

[rose dust]

That sounds perfect! I floated the idea of a continuously updating master-thread of info, but having links to separate threads would iron out the workload and make the master-thread less dependant on a single person

[brazen prawn]

Any noise filter in a storm

[rose dust]

Ah good to see ya! I saw another Sheral account and was a lil confused on who to ping 😅

[turbid eagle]

Right, and the master thread wouldn't get as cluttered.
A brief summary of the puzzle and a link to its thread for each.

And guidelines on staying organized lol

[rain verge]

What about an alerts channel with a restricted poster list to keep traffic low, but allow community leaders to get information out when necessary.

[rose dust]

Just wanted to ask someone to split my organization post from the thread and Gumsk's reply to it into a seperate organization discussion thread if possible? I think having it in the main thread kinda got it lost in the noise of new arrivals and theories.

Would be great to have a seperate place for everyone to discuss organization ideas w/ all the leaders to figure out what would be more feasible and helpful for the forum

[compact python]

Organization room
Materials/links
General chat
War room

[covert temple]

^

[rose dust]

(I love @turbid eagle' idea already without competition but it should probably be on that new thread too 😅)

[turbid eagle]

I agree, I don't see why the thread couldn't be one and the same -- a master organization thread that also directs people to the proper puzzles and latest info

[brazen prawn]

Some of you guys have the patience of saints. I'm not built that way 😅

[turbid eagle]

for discussing organization while syndicating info and having it organized at the top

[brazen prawn]

The less fragmented the better

[rose dust]

Sounds awesome to me personally, and would probably be really navigable for new users too, acting as a big "START HERE" sign

[turbid eagle]

Yeah, that would allow easy responses to new people who come like "new number, who dis?"

[turbid eagle]

idk vector, you were pretty patient with me on ETARC when I couldn't get it through my thick skull how people were finding the capital letters lmao

total derp moment