#project-skyscraper
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or however that elden ring line goes
so I hear we've had a development on the quote page
instability?
whatever that means
could it be a red herring? drawing our attention to it?
Remember the unused post tags?
One of em is now used on the quote page
Which added a link that shows all of the pages with that tag
I see
I wonder ... if the date is numbers to use in conjunction with the poem, and not actually a date?
Specifically, unstable
I have a feeling that the unverified tag will be used for logs issued by someone else, and unstable posts might be ones which are susceptible to change and should be monitored? (Much like quote in this case)
Words only in the poem on the page not in Sunday Morning:
invisible
lie
light
secrets
shadow
silence
trace
unseen
vanish
watches
wing
Words in both:
are
birds
blue
in
night
no
on
sky
that
the
they
where
Maybe the quote is a work of steganography?
Not enough info
It could be many things but we dont have anything to fit it into.
So we shoot in the dark and pray 4 the best
Aight I'm gonna head out for the day. Keep exploring guys.
There's very likely something to be solved on the quote page if anyone is interested in looking into it.
Two things I can suggest to explore:
- the word diffs I've shared above between the page poem and the sunday morning poem
- the diff between the posts on twitter vs blue sky ( based on the wording of the page poem)
I agree it sounds like looking into
But idk what you'd do with those words once you have them
Tweet them to the architect? Put them into the URL of the site?
There's no obvious place to type a password in
That's honestly why I still think we're in a waiting phase. There's a distinct lack interactivity and progression here. Most of our pursuits are shots into the wild without an obvious target so far.
If we assume the image has something hidden stenographically, it may require a password to unlock
How about converting the quote to ASCII values (or something similar), could that be used in any way? For example, to get something out of the image or the spectrogram discussed here earlier?
Just dropping in to say Gothalion, one of the people retweeted by the twitter handle and a prominent NMS creator posted on twitter with a [REDACTED] message earlier today. 90% chance unrelated but worth noting.
I get being skeptical but 90%? Maybe more like 65%-70%
I cant recall him tweeting cryptic stuff before especially with the sus timing of everything.
He is obviously in contact with HG for whatever reason lol
The skepticism comes from multiple years of being disappointed by ARGs. It’s not for no reason. I’ll be fully on board at the first legitimate sign of life here.
I still find it weird with the Cursed Expedition I think that Sean teased the start of a ARG but we got nothing after.
Everyone just assumed it ended with Worlds.
invisible
69 6E 76 69 73 69 62 6C 65 0A
105 110 118 105 115 105 98 108 101
vanish
76 61 6E 69 73 68
118 97 110 105 115 104
silence
73 69 6C 65 6E 63 65
115 105 108 101 110 99 101
where
77 68 65 72 65
119 104 101 114 101
secrets
73 65 63 72 65 74 73
115 101 99 114 101 116 115
lie
6C 69 65
108 105 101
shadow
73 68 61 64 6F 77
115 83 104 97 100 111 119
trace
74 72 61 63 65
116 114 97 99 101
light
6C 69 67 68 74
108 105 103 104 116
unseen
75 6E 73 65 65 6E
117 110 115 101 101 110
watches
77 61 74 63 68 65 73
119 97 116 99 104 101 115
Hex and ascii values
wasnt that the singularity? Tbf, it's patch notes stated "ARG like elements" and not a full ARG
I feel like if this ARG was actually backed by HG Gothalion would have already started talking about it the same way as the youtubers Hello Games reached about Waking Titan.
The fact that nobody is taking the bait about Project Skycraper speaks volumes in and of itself I think.
It probably didn't fully start yet I wouldn't rely on content creators to say its a dud. Waking Titan took a second to take off at first to. Also maybe it was Singularity but it shows HG aren't afraid to start a new ARG. I still am about 60/40 on this with 60% being legit. I can easily see the first half being for NMS 10th anniversary and the second half either another update for the 11th anniversary or being related to LNF. Weird we haven't gotten an emoji yet. I kind of wonder if we might get a expedition only update that might contain more hints and be cryptic. Either way I wont be upset if its fan made either. He did say this year would be big for NMS.
I don't buy that for one second. Waking Titan had the youtubers involved from the very beginning, HG talked with them and coordinated with them before Waking Titan was even discovered at all. From the very first days Waking Titan was discovered youtubers were talking about it and had tapes.
The purpose of that is to spread the word so people know and get involved...if it was legit they'd be doing already because that's the stuff you do BEFORE things kick off properly...so the community is already there when it starts.
NMS speculation use to be a lot more rampant before beyond now everyone just has such a negative outlook on it. You can go back to anything preBeyond and see speculation was more heavy. I don't think anyone covering Waking Titan in the early days had contact with HG. Want to emphasis EARLY.
Bruh I'm gonna quote you if your wrong and I expect you to do the same if I'm wrong.
But this one seems like a one guy fan project...and I doubt it's going anywhere at all.
I honestly think the true ARG hasn’t even started and we’re looking at a countdown to the 28th possibly
Exactly and not only that this is a lot of effort for a fan made project. Even with AI/Vibe Coding
And before it starts is when the youtubers should start talking if this was a real thing...same as with Waking Titan...youtubers were all over it from day one, long before it started properly.
The NMS Youtuber community for speculation is dead compared to Waking Titan just saying.
Or june 9
Captain Steve and Professor Cynical are practically looked down upon just for doing it and Kanaju only does it once in a blue moon at a end of video.
Cobra TV doesn’t even play NMs anymore either
You don't get it. They did it because Hello Games reached out to them and coordinated with them long before the public first heard of Waking Titan. If HG had reached out to people some would be on it already.
They are mainly content creators. I Dont expect then to do the dirty work
I doubt they did. The only time HG reached out is when it was getting more indepth with the Atlas Passes everything else was pure hype and speculation.
Which is completely dead in the NMS community.
Compared to before at least
Again...they reached to youtubers before Waking Titan to help push it...long before V4 Atlas Passes were a thing...over a year before those.
I think we should just stop since we're kind of spamming this discussion when it should be reserved for important stuff. Also I remember and they didn't the initial period of Waking Titan was pure speculation and hype people didn't even know if it was for Destiny or NMS.
Nms content cycle is to thin for yt content creator to stay afloat
And if HG did not reach to anyone to push this and aren't trying to rally the community to it before an actual kickoff then they probably have nothing to do with it.
Or they still in prep phase
I don't buy that. You gather the audience before a show starts or there is no show.
I'm 50/50 on it. Even if its not official still pretty well made and interesting. But if it is HG then I think a small acknowledgement or something to let us know would help a lot.
I think that’s a sufficient tangent.
It shouldn’t matter if it is or isn’t official until we even know what we’re doing and for what goals.
No point in a back and forth arguing about it.
Agreed its still an interesting thing to solve and its cool to see everyone together trying to solve the thing again haha
Oh it absolutely one trillion percent matters. If this is not official I will do absolutely nothing for it. No reason to waste my time on it.
I wouldn't be arguing with a 50/50 on the matter its just the straight nuh uh arguments tbh.
I agree with spock and batzy overall though.
Then why even come into the dedicated channel for it?
Everyone controls the media they interact with
I give up. Enjoy guys.
We can all choose how to dedicate our time on our own, no need to argue over it
Also valid. It's why I would not really know what to do on their end if its not official lots of people are going to leave but if it is more people join so yeah haha
Until confimation all is possible. Im waiting untill june 9. Thats when suposedly something might happen
If someone wants to use their time to solve an arg (even a fan made one), they have every right to use their time on it
To see if any youtuber had got involved or if anything real actually moved. It's been more than long enough for youtubers to start talking but they are publicly ignoring being quote posted by this.
I mean Captain Steve and Professor Cynical already covered it briefly.
Outside of Kanaju they're probably the biggest dedicated NMS content creators despite low view counts but there isn't much there for NMS to begin with.
If it's not real there won't be any confirmation.
One way or the other . Sooner or later we will know.
HG made a section for it on the Atlas-65 forums
One of the engine developers liked at tweet about the ARG
If they wanted to tell us it's not official, they could
You know that's a good point.
I dont mind if its fan made if its done well
HG doesn't run Atlas-65 I don't think
They own the site and do the admin. The volunteers moderate it
they pay for the site and are the only ones who can add new categories
You’d think if someone doesn’t want to work on or interact with something unofficial, they just, won’t.
Professor Cynical is the biggest hack covering this game...the amount of times that guy lied about "eploits" and "cheats" that weren't real to keep making nonsense videos is insane. I doubt Hello Games would do anything with him at all.
Intresting...
They do. After Waking Titan control was handed over from the ARG PMs to HG.
That is kinda true. Saw one of his vids about "efficient" farms. He is more like nms troll of sorts imo.
A good friend of mine recently had an interaction with an HG server dev on twt when someone pretending to be HG cloned a repo where they confirmed it wasn't them. Though granted that was a more severe infraction than a potential fan ARG imo
Yeah only take I can agree with from Spirit however doesn't change the fact he still has subscribers and the views for being a NMS content creator.
Someone give me a ping if we go back to ARG discussions or if there’s an update.
Cynical is one of the smallest NMS content creators at 33k subs. The biggest one active right now is probably Jason Plays at 255k.
And he does not get views...hasn't had a video break 10k views in over a month.
Hate to backseat mod guys but, this channel probably isn't the right place for this convo
Anything new?
yeah, the poem page got updated
Whats on it now?
Not much is different, but theres the word "Unstable" at the bottom
Thats got a link embedded in it
But idk if it leads anything. I don't think it does
Hmmm did u click it?
It takes you to a page that displays all pages tagged as "unstable" by the author. Currently that list only includes the Quote page, but will probably have more later on.
Interesting we still in the waiting phase?
Seems like it
Thank you, I'll report this to ETARC since some people still don't think that's the place.
Now back to sleep, 530am 🙂
Maybe the quote pic will have the key to spectograph solution if the page will become more unstable
EtherOrmolu on the Atlas-65 forum compared the Google images pic to the one on the project-skyscraper site:
sigh time to open photoshop again
I'm wondering if the horizontal distortion is sound? But I don't know how to eliminate the image to only get the distortion
Could be just a way to hide the location from us
and the truck
Distortion imo is to small to hide anything in it.
If it will get bigger then it will be worth to look closer
Why this location, and why choose a photo that you need to replace the sky for? How does it relate to either poem? 🤔
Maybe we need to wait for other puzzle pieces to get bigger picture
Atm i dont see the connection
that's what has been puzzling me about this dang poem for so long
(among other things)
yeah there's a blue sky.... but that can't be it lol
they for sure used the warp tool to get this.
I couldn't apply a simple scale, skew or perspective transform to get the same result until I used a warp transform to get all the nuanced distortions in place.
It's not perfect, but you get the idea
Very nice
unfortunately it doesn't do much for us 😂
the warp + replaced sky is messing with me though
especially in the context of the poem
new sky
No Man's Sky 2 confirmed
New Man's Sky lmao
New skyboxes at least lol
right? lol
I was supposed to head there today (30 mn from my place) but I had unforeseen circumstances that did not allow me to go. I'll go there tomorrow you have my words
So, for some reason, they went to a lot of effort to make a picture of some sky without any birds in
I don't even see birds in the original 😭
no pressure Microsan, we don't even have any reason to believe we need to go there and don't want to encourage you to go lol
Exactly
The only problem was the sky wasn't blue, so they replaced it, but ... why
Why not just use a different pic
something about that specific loc
The picture appears clean throughout. One exception is Le Forgeron carries the same glitch distortion that appears on the Atlas building image. The rest of the picture is untouched by that glitch. The Blacksmith was marked deliberately.
@rose dust figured I'd ping you, less than 5 minutes ago Sean dropped an update emoji. It's a bee
omg
Meaning the update is coming this week
like Cicada3301? lmao
Probs the 27th unless it comes out on the 28th
is this the Cicada 3301 of NMS
I'm going to soil my undergarments if this is an ARG alongside in-game events
if the puppetmaster really wants to mess with us, they should update the site within the next 5 mins
There's definitely distortion elsewhere, but it's more obvious on Le Forgeron
I found more reference images of this location as well
https://danielclerc.fr/91_syndicat_orge_art_et_nature_en_vallee_orge.htm#Longpont_2
https://unmondedimage.canalblog.com/2024/03/vallee-de-l-orge-78.html
the artist is Michaël Camacho
I guess due to safety/deterioration, the sculptures were removed in April of this year
Imagine the Project Skyscraper account reposts Sean's bee post on Monday, and it says "Connection detected : Access granted"
i saw your response to seans tweet maths
Hivemind seems viable
nobody will know before the update drops ofc
but itd make sense
No Man's Sky: HONEY
i had nearly had a heart attack thinking Project Skyscraper responded to Sean's tweet but no, false alarm
i'll still be looking out to see if they acknowledge the emoji(s)
Someone on the NMS subreddit suggested that we should try using a Polybius square, so I brought one over here. Could this have any use?
Project skyscraper has made Google news yall
Huh?
well
I take comfort in the fact that if this is a hoax we're not gonna be the only ones with egg on their face LOL
I cant find the news but if its from a credible source and not some small outlet like gamingbible for example then its safe to say its more likely to be official.
Wow, I didn't expect an emoji this late, just before bed for him. This makes the arg more legitimate to me
Yeah i thought it wasnt a coincidence
But again, being fan made would still be cool
in my own internal logic I'm leaning heavily towards this thing being legitimate, but I think it'd be wise to maintain the "this is fanmade until we know for a fact it's not" stance
And I think that answer could come easily to us if we have to datamine or just broadly find something in the update to advance the ARG
as that'd mean the puppetmaster had to have pre-emptive knowledge on the update before it released
If it requires datamining, we've got that covered for sure 🙂
bomberboi is gonna take to that shit like batman to a gargoyle
I'll bribe monkeyman to dig into the exe if needed
The update is usually like 9 or 10pm for me, so I usually don't get to look until the next morning
I'm just surprised that the day of significance lines up so well with the update
And with the waking titan start
That's one hell of a guess from the puppetmaster, if this is fanmade
Yeah
It's kind of like watching a magic trick, now that I think about it
it drops at like 6am where i am so I'm usually asleep
i'll get up this time to see what it is though
Funny, new emoji and I'm staying out of the main channel like "Fools! We don't have time to make up silly update ideas related to bees! There's an ARG afoot!"
LOL exactly
I've given hardly any thought to what the update name might be
fuck that, we've got a white whale to hunt
Huh, maybe understanding more about Wallace Stevens is key to this poem. He used colours as symbolism - for example, blue represented the imagination. And he did not see time as linear. The birds are not literally birds in the sky, but ideas in an imaginary space.
But now I'm even more confused. 🤔
Someone on ETARC mentioned that Bia was an enemy of Atlas during the titan war
Not a very catchy antagonist name though
Just thinking more I posted this in spoilers to I find it funny that the emoji is a bee and there was a Halo 2 ARG called I love bees which is kind of ironic lol.
FYI, Bia, the enemy of Atlas, forced Hephaestus, the Blacksmith, to chain Prometheus to the boulder. The French sculpture is named Le Forgeron, the Blacksmith.
Probably not an intended connection, but interesting
Hello all 👋 Im ekimo, one of the Voyager Haven leaders. Ive been following the progression of the ARG story since the first post and have compiled a website to attempt to track all the information for the story. If youve been on the ETARC forums then youve probably seen the page before but i wanted to share it here as well. If anyone has any questions or updates let me know and ill keep track of it all when i go to update the page next 😁
<@&590975379678953522> as requested in the tickets
Don’t panic yet but bees was also the name of an arg for halos. FPS nms confirmed /s
Also, one of the bee emoji looks like the famous Cicada 3301 logo
I always felt the FPS controller could use love. I still hope it can come true someday with a true on ground combat overhaul.
Just having arms and looking down to see legs with proper reload animations could go a long way. Better if we can get some form of ADS, weapon wheel for multitool, and some kind of crouching button.
Voyagers Haven #skyscraper-announcement
✅ Test alert — skyscraper_watch is wired up and can reach this channel.
Oh, Bia is the goddess of strength, military might, and combat
We do need sword and staff combat before LNF
awesome so now anytime the skyscraper website changes the alert will drop in here 
neat
what's the change though? i mean, if there is any
oh yeah, save the bees
It was a test
Oop, we thinking Hive?
Thanks for the heads up btw! Twt's been going insane with notifications so I would've genuinely missed this one.
BasicMaths thinks Hivemind
I could've sworn there used to be a beehive emoji though, but I guess that's a Mandela effect
and I think i like that idea
i mean, never underestimate the possibility that this update could literally just be bees
that's basically what happened with xeno arenas
but maybe it's something a little more complex
Huh, there's still no expedition queued up
Wonder if we'll get another connection attempt today, quote posting Sean's tweet
They removed the beehive emoji the same year Mandela died, 6 years after they changed the name from Bearenstein Bears
oh you
I think hive is a good candidate. I think the goddess Bia as Voidmother might connect
🤬
Jokes aside, there is a beehive unicode symbol ꙮ
I like this idea too
With melee combat
thatd be peak
Bia was goddess of military might and they'll need to test melee combat sometime
wednesday cant come soon enough
If there isn't an expedition and the ARG is official (big if), I wonder if the update would tie in at all. If they hide clues in game it might be like interceptor where everyone's scrambling on planets to gather em up from interactbles?
Too many ifs for now though.
yeah this is all very shakey ground
The next scheduled log is estimated to be ~25th, right?
i actually dont know
theres such a time zone difference between where i am and the puppetmaster that it seems like it's
every day and a half for me
which is two days for them
but that can't be right
but 25th sounds right, anyway
Oh for sure, I've been really disoriented by the schedule haha. It seems like I wake up to a new post and see another one before going to bed, so the entire day goes up in Project Skyscraper shenanigans
Should be first half of the 25th for people in the west
Actually, latter half
Then first half of the 28th
I wasn't really across the poem/quote image outcomes, what information was actually pulled from it so far (beyond the location and statue name)?
In regards to the "16" pattern section, I don't know if this has been looked at or worth adding to the section, but the 3 digit post IDs potentially follow a pattern of Event/Change with large ID delta -> then 15 low delta (4, then 2s) and the 16th post is another large delta and Event/Change (see first "Delta summary:" section of https://github.com/vectorcmdr/project_skyscraper_junk/blob/main/WP_post_id_series_analysis.txt)
There's only one set so far (due to post count), but we'll see in a week or so if the second set follow the potential pattern
Quantization table looks weird.
DQT #3 in raster (8x8) order (numbers):
Row 0: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Row 1: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Row 2: 1 1 1 1 1 2 1 1
Row 3: 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
Row 4: 1 1 2 3 3 2 2 1
Row 5: 1 1 1 1 1 1 2 2
Row 6: 3 3 2 2 1 1 1 2
Row 7: 2 3 3 3 2 3 3 3
DQT #4 in raster (8x8) order:
Row 0: 1 1 1 3 1 1 1 2
Row 1: 3 3 3 3 3 2 1 1
Row 2: 1 3 3 3 3 3 3 3
Row 3: 3 3 2 1 1 2 3 3
Row 4: 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3
Row 5: 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3
Row 6: 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3
Row 7: 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3
DQT #3 in raster (8x8) order (# = 3, + = 2, . = 1):
Row 0: . . . . . . . .
Row 1: . . . . . . . .
Row 2: . . . . . + . .
Row 3: . . . . . . . .
Row 4: . . + # # + + .
Row 5: . . . . . . + +
Row 6: # # + + . . . +
Row 7: + # # # + # # #
DQT #4 in raster (8x8) order:
Row 0: . . . # . . . +
Row 1: # # # # # + . .
Row 2: . # # # # # # #
Row 3: # # + . . + # #
Row 4: # # # # # # # #
Row 5: # # # # # # # #
Row 6: # # # # # # # #
Row 7: # # # # # # # #
Highly unusual. Reading up on DQT stego techniques.
Aight im back ish. What’s the status?
Embedded thumbnail doesn't seem to match for auto and was separately generated for what that's worth. (really just evidence to go along with the fact that while (no duh) this is deliberately manipulated, it is done so in a way designed to preserve data, not just image quality).
What’s this from?
IMG_00004
I don't know any of that stuff, but it looks weird to me 😛
It's often used to place encrypted messages in JPG files because the table survives compression and has a minimal disturbance to the image visually at small message sizes. It's also a strong indicator of intentional modification and also strangely near lossless. There's a high intentionality.
The last dqt4 one looks a bit like morse code with # just being the character separator
Doesn’t decode to anything meaningful though
If it is something, it's almost certainly cryptographic
Writing up a bunch of tests atm to see what sticks out and make a bunch of dumps
Anything new?
vector, how'd you learn so much about image and data manipulation?
||CIA||
might be one of the deaf kids who broke outta HG HQ 😛
As for the date, it predates when le forgeron was installed, but is long after Wallace Stevens died. The date in the memory bloc is the same as the EXIF data, but the time is different.
Oh excuse me what.
No idea if fan made or not, but seems well done - lots of effort
Pins have starter links
Well dang. How far in is this so far?
Just a week or so - the first posts went overlooked/not understood
I think it has history back 14 days or so
A pleasure
Bit of hobby, bit of contract work, I've done a lot of weird stuff over the years
Yeah the diff is 6979
Left the scripts running while making/eating dinner, reading through the results now
Worth flagging a detail about Le Forgeron (blacksmith, smith) figure.
If it maps to Hephaestus (latin : Vulcan), that's a stronger fit than it first looks. Hephaestus isn't just the god of fire and the forge : he's the god who forges living mechanical beings
So in the Quote post, we have:
- a poem (Sunday Morning) about the acceptance and finality of death as an fundamental part of the natural order (a necessity for the creation of beauty), and a rejection of the ideas of deities and afterlives
- a very modified picture of a sculpture made by re-using old parts, representing a blacksmith
- a date unrelated to either of the above (NB: we have 4 different date/time systems in use), but two different times
- another poem (this time original) which can be interpreted many different ways
I'm extremely reminded of the autophage and the monument interactions from the first two points
Understood, was just replying to the context, but it was out of line
OK, I have annotated the reports and pushed them (general forensics, exif data dump with some interesting values, two layer DQT analysis and an analysis of the anomalous pixel in the image - collating into meaningful chunks now, but I don't see hard hits
There's a lot to sift through
is it worth it to just wait it out until the bee update drops?
architect might publish new stuff then too
Most likely we'll get some sort of ARG update in about 24 or 36 hours. After that, wait for the NMS update. Outside of those, we have no clue
we're probably missing something in the sunday morning post, i doubt it'd have been labelled unstable otherwise
I agree that there's something missing there
And the spectrogram
I think we milked everything else pretty well
one thing i noticed on the main page
the lower left corner of the node and vertice array gives the whole structure a red glow on far lesser glowing nodes as compared to other sides
like, 6-8 nodes get that whole glow
but all other sides need at least 10
and that side shifts
it is now the top left side
its happening on a single node
Main output summary:
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JPG
APP0(offset0x000002) is len 16, but with an embedded thumbnail should be more, like len 18. Odd but parses. -
The embedded thumbnail is likely generated from the original image before data manipulation, but after visual edits, as it contains DQT that look normal and has not inherited the main images.
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SOI markers for GZIP and PK, all false positives.
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Image has 7 SOS scans, which is unusually high (DC + 6 AC refinement scans). Add this to the anomalous DQT tables and there are now two clear signs of intentional data manipulation and not just image screwing and compression. (See statistical analysis in general forensics report)
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Anomalous pixel at (739,1070): R=224, G=201, B=167. Pointer?
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DQT table values are all 1->3 (as previously noted). Highly unusual, nearly lossless and almost certainly a sign of data tampering. Likely cryptographic.
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DQT3 LSB non-FF:
0xE0,0x03-> matches pixel R=224, ARG#3 -
DQT4 LSB non-FF:
0xC9-> matches pixel G=201 -
DQT LSB sequence
E0,03,C9. -
CABAAsequence from DQT4[16,9,10,4,3]. Cipher text? -
EXIF metadata contains a few interesting / anomalous values (see file)
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There is an odd diagonal stepping present in the DQT tables also (more info in the reports).
Holy wall of text, didn't think 10 bullet points would be that brutal. Sorry!
Without the line breaks it wasn't much. No big deal
I wish I understood more. I understand maybe 1/4 of that and have no idea what to do with what I do understand
I guess if anyone notices significant numbers, things like that (and in the full reports there is a lot more context: https://github.com/vectorcmdr/project_skyscraper_junk/tree/main/IMG_00004/reports)
Thanks for all that analysis. I think there's definitely something hidden in that image
I think that this point, it's a matter of figuring out if it is a cipher text or key, and what the values might hint at it being
I am convinced the DQT is the answer
for point 6, does the anomalous pixel tie into it somehow? i'll have to study up the quantization a bit more, but thats all i can figure out right now
It's human made
they took a google search image and warped it so beautifully that there's people all over the world losing their heads over it
the sheer power this person wields right now
This is a different image
It also looks to confirm that the manipulation of the image visually (while still possibly important) was done prior and independently from the manipulated DQT (proven by the thumbnail)
Hi travellers. Live from close location where 'le forgeron' is supposed to be
Was the atlas building image JPG or PNG? (I can check later if not sure)
Greetings, if this is an official arg, it's a bit of a mess. I'm not complaining, it got me out of my cave. The bottom line: the blurry sculpture, decoded by the international Discord server, was dismantled a month ago due to potential danger. All that's left is a rotten piece of pole. It started with flooding visible on Google Maps. In short, no pun intended, a wasted effort
Side note that would remind me of the floods first hello games studios encountered. Sort of English humor I love
the urge to draw connection between this event and some meaning drawn from Sunday Morning, i swear
A negative result is still extremely important, thank you for checking!
Do you think I should.post a picture of nothing on X and send it to the architect?
You are welcome
taking a photo, if you can, might be a good idea, even if as a "just in case" thing, but lets not send it
and yes, thank you for checking
I promised and as I say it got me out of my cave 😂
Let's focus on what might be an expedition ?
me and gpt both dumb in HTML because what
What were you trying to confirm?
so, the whole network gets that soft glow to it, like in the video i posted a little while ago
i can't figure out the criteria for that
i thought it was number of nodes highlighted, but nope
it seems to be mouse positioning wrt a reference point. and the point seems(?) to be revolving in a clockwise manner
it was lower left, then upper left, and right now its lower right
there's a soft red glow that comes all over the network
this
i'm trying to figure out the trigger event for this
because it is not number of nodes highlighted
there's more nodes highlighted here, but no soft red glow
I think that's just a Canvas2D artifact
Its proc gen. amount of red depends on where u click
No deeper meaning at least for now
fair enough
Cat
Yeah, it's just based on a smoothed movement and position
The background "red" is a shadow rendering artifact I'm pretty sure
maybe we can figure out an orientation where the nodes roughly look like laylaps or something
Its random
Only thing is that the number of dots increases based on the day of the month
Yeah, confirmed rendering bug from shadowBlur and shadowColor in the draw call.
Yeah, we've covered all this a few times now.
Now im intrested to see what will hapen on the first of month
Resets to 3 iirc?
maybe we can change system time and mess around with that? i mean, if that will even affect it
Only one way to find out
There will be just 3 dots - the bounds are 3 and 53
Cant wait for 53 of the month
Same. Since it was properly discovered this month and seems to be properly starting soon, I wonder if the page itself is intended to be replaced after this month
In which case the dots build until something happens
We wait for 9th for event and 16 patern confimation then
the site refrences the date and calculates number of nodes. the fun thing would be to monitor it at 2359 and see what happens on 0000
Anecdotally I've noticed it running a bit slower on my phone the past few days lol
the animation part keeps refrencing itself. it is actually becoming slower
My phone is slow overall 😂 so dont wory
Actually this gives me a thought
brb
Yes, it is quite inefficiently written, at a high node count there is very visible lag
window.addEventListener('resize', init); init();
yeah, i think this little bit just clones for every node? so its re-doing this either for every node, or for every pair
This level 5 cap is killing me lol.
Still not lvl5?
You can just monkey the .js to change the day to see what the result is
But anyway, it's just clunky js, nothing interesting
slightly off topic, but i'm sure that clunky js has probably been used as an insult between techies at some point
I hadn't bothered to read through the page source properly as it seemed solved - but the fact that the homepage is a fetch on p551 and the template changes some values I don't remember seeing mentioned. Such as the API returning different wording. REST API last revision date was also May 1, which implies a job on the server side is responsible for updating the connection quantity. Probably to help mitigate manipulation.
Might be worth setting up a warden on a cron job to watch for API revisions?
Monkey js up if you want to play with the nodes (https://github.com/vectorcmdr/project_skyscraper_junk) (it's not very exciting)
If he weren't already aware, he'd probably get a kick out of so many people around the world investigating his sculpture that no longer exists
The only "pieces" left are the pictures available on Google Maps (before and during the flooding)
Before I go turbo-loopy trying to link up the three images, what has been confirmed from the glitched atlas building photo?
[concrete confirmed that is]
Just that it is cropped and the original is the unsplash photo?
I assumed that from the URLs and dates (the bigger one was uploaded first, then the cropped version was added). I've seen people say it's the same, but I don't know if it has been actually verified.
There is way more at play, this file is also weird as hell
Image dimensions in the progressive frame data are 96x96 never mind, dyslexic moment reading the bytes
And there is only one quant table and it's for chrominance
And it exhibits the same weirdness as the other image
So it's 69x69? Interesting 😉
I'd send a Homelander staring meme if I could 😭
Careful, Gleam will get on you! (rightfully so)
I'm breaking out all the glitch regions atm to look at
Huffman tables are also either custom optimized, or part of the solve, either way they are non-standard
woww..... haven't heard Huffman mentioned since my data structures class
Microsan tweeted the photo: https://x.com/NMSNEWSFR/status/2058565263465804260?s=20 😅
Red bitplane 5 is interesting also
I'm pretty sure I've never heard "Huffman tables"
Apparently trace has the same quant weirdness as well (I haven't checked myself)
That's hard enough evidence for me, this is linked
Anyone know who looked into that on ETARC? It's not credited on the havenmap site currently
So the sculpture doesn’t even exist anymore?
Correct, sculpture go bye-bye. Late 2022 or 2023 you'll see a pile of lumber. Next year you see a sculpture or two. Now, everything is gone.
Welp. Nothing lasts forever
Well, something got highlighted. I wonder if ETARC has yet acknowledged this is a fan project?
Yes, it has been addressed multiple times on ETARC that this is not necessarily official
Can someone link me details on the previous ARG spectrogram solve?
Everyone is (reasonably) saying that it would be cool no matter what
I'm unfamiliar and want to ensure I'm looking at the right thing
I feel like you're trying to find some way to criticize people for believing in this too much. Not only is that not helpful, it's not accurate.
Yeah we have no idea who made this
No, I wasn't even going to comment here until I saw the bold letters. Would be nice if this were nailed in stone. I think someone knows...either the ETARC mods or the mods here have means to drop HG questions if important or something but they can't talk about it. Normally I'd be more inclined to think ETARC since as I understand it HG owns them. That's why I asked if they confirmed it.
No one is going to know, unless they are Sean or Martin, which I seriously doubt
Even if they know what the answer is, the protocol would be to pretend they don't know
I don't think HG would cover for a fan ARG. But stuff like if the ETARC staff can ask HG questions I would imagine can't be disclosed.
"I wasn't going to comment until I decided I wanted to comment, and then I made sure to screenshot two things that said "fan-made" and ask if people have said if it was fan-made, implying that people weren't thinking that it might be fan-made""
It doesn't matter. Even if it's fan-made, those of us that want to are going to have fun trying to solve it.
We all know that it might be fan-made. If you don't like it, don't pay attention
I wasn't asking about might I was asking about CONFIRMED.
🙃 maybe I should focus fire on ETARC
In what sense?
In the getting stuff done without the same revolving conversations sense lol
Then why screenshot things that said fan-made? Unless you wanted to imply it wasn't official? Just like atheism, absence of proof doesn't equal proof of absence. You want to come here and discourage people from believing that this is official, which very few people here would think. Just read and contribute if you have something to contribute.
Yeah here has been more people just arguing about who’s running this and whether it matters or not.
@modest oxide if it really matters that much to you, assume it’s fan made and leave as you said you don’t want to do anything for it.
You have several years of documented negativity and confrontational posts. I really don't feel like granting you the benefit of the doubt of just being a rational dissenter
Sadly there’s not that much of solving activity there either.
I’ve tried keeping conversation to solving stuff/ investigating stuff in multiple forums but there’s hardly anyone looking at stuff and people have assumed we’re waiting, and/or blabbering about who’s running it.
You seem to be dancing two lines like you can't make up your mind what you believe...on the one hand you said nobody would know and couldn't confirm but now you want to throw shade at me for implying the pinned post isn't official. I mean officially this is a discord made and ran by fans, they wouldn't have contacts to HG. But ETARC might...maybe should? I mean the site is owned by HG so at least one of the mods would have to be an employee or have a way to reach them if something was on fire...that's why I asked if they confirmed.
Well, I am going to go listen to the 58 audio files from the analysis and come back here when I am done I think 
I'm not "throwing shade"; I'm calling out your past behavior. You are constantly negative and dismissive. If you have something to contribute, contribute it. If you don't have something to contribute...don't? If HG wanted to shut down speculation on a site it owns, maybe it would shut down speculation on a site it owns. If it doesn't, then maybe...it doesn't?
So, your contribution is...?
Well I wasn't doing that at all...I just asked a question. And you started cross examining me for no reason.
I think the record speaks for itself
I'm done with this, though. It's distracting from the point of this channel. Do what you want and I'm going to sleep
You can't keep being hostile over the past because now you're the one instigating this on. And I didn't even say one bad word this time.
ARG, eh?
argh?
I haven't been following the situation lately. Last time I took a look, I saw speculating that it hadn't started properly yet.
It is unclear, indeed
My assumption is that, since the tweets stopped being heartbeats and moving in to "connection detected", in addition to reaching out on various forums, it's now active, though possibly in a preliminary phase
Since the front page Jetpack metadata links to the /sleep-mode (status=nominal) and Wake-on-LAN log post, I assume that the first puzzle is to wake it up. The Quote page is the first one made after the ETARC forum post, and the rest have been connection detected updates.
I think there will be no active coordination until the 27th or 28th
I'm pretty sure that the tweets / automated posts are gonna continue, but I don't think we've done anything important enough to warrant another acknowledgement post yet.
Complete speculation, but I think we might see some more non-log style posts (similar to quote) soon, some with tagged as unstable?
So uh... could anyone point me in the direction of the previous ARG spectro solve?
Pretty please
I assume game detectives wiki should be reliable as a source?
@brazen prawn yes the gd wiki is the most comprehensive record that would be there
Links to each of the phases was well.
Okey dokey, thanks - just don't want to go off dud regurgitated info from a google search
Understandable. GD Wiki is best.
Enjoy the history lesson! That was an incredible experience tbh.
"history lesson" = 8 years ago. Could you make me feel any older?
A week is a decade on the internet.
Dw we all old.
One of these DCT chunks sounds like the Nostromo's bootup sequence 😅
Talk about things that make you field old…
One of those sounds reminds me of the amber monitor game castle where there was an orange cross symbol on my amber monitor representing a vampire (obviously). But I'm not old...no, not at all...
This helps to visualise the weird regions of the bitplanes and the sections of strange DCT chunks and other data space in the image that is non-conforming. The DQT makes it extremely improbable that it is visual only, because it helps the ~10 scans to never lose the data even to minor hiccups:
I'm pulling out all the chunks programatically now, but also going to manually isolate some of the very obvious areas
That's definitely the Atlas Building image. I'm sure you knew that, but just in case
Yep
You're getting that from the IMG00004?
Finding the similar sections of each, I believe the DQT modification links them all together (cipher texts and keys)
They all have the same style of modification applied, including trace
But where the other two don't have much room for other data, this one has a lot
Cool stuff @brazen prawn keep us posted!
the image doesn't show the full atlas building though, does it? like, it has bits on the sides as well
What do you mean?
When did the heartbeats stop being heartbeats?
Last heartbeat was 30th April. The next post on 3rd May was the Wake-on-LAN attempt, and since then it's been "Connection detected : access denied"
ID Delta Date Slug
-------- ------- ------------ -----------------
117 -- 1970-01-01 origin
--> 128 +11 2026-03-24 sleep-mode-46105
--> 132 +4 2026-03-27 sleep-mode-46108
--> 134 +2 2026-03-29 sleep-mode-46110
--> 136 +2 2026-04-01 sleep-mode-4613
--> 138 +2 2026-04-03 sleep-mode-46115
--> 140 +2 2026-04-06 sleep-mode-46118
--> 142 +2 2026-04-08 sleep-mode-46120
--> 144 +2 2026-04-11 sleep-mode-46123
--> 146 +2 2026-04-13 sleep-mode-46125
--> 148 +2 2026-04-16 sleep-mode-46128
--> 150 +2 2026-04-18 sleep-mode-46130
--> 152 +2 2026-04-21 sleep-mode-46132
--> 154 +2 2026-04-23 sleep-mode-46134
--> 156 +2 2026-04-25 sleep-mode-46136
--> 158 +2 2026-04-28 sleep-mode-46138
--> 160 +2 2026-04-30 sleep-mode-46140
--> 259 +99 2026-05-03 sec-log-080413
--> 263 +4 2026-05-05 sec-log-210700
--> 267 +4 2026-05-08 sec-log-065200
--> 269 +2 2026-05-10 sec-log-171400
--> 271 +2 2026-05-13 sec-log-041800
--> 273 +2 2026-05-15 sec-log-152100
--> 275 +2 2026-05-18 sec-log-022531
--> 277 +2 2026-05-20 sec-log-132904
--> 279 +2 2026-05-23 sec-log-003237
The About page was added on 2nd May. The Quote post was added on 17th May.
Nice. So the May 25th sec log should start with 11.
Thanks for that.
✏️ Post edited — “QUOTE” (quote) modified 2026-05-24T18:02:12Z
https://project-skyscraper.com/2005/04/13/quote/
“Where lies hide” wasn’t it “where secrets hide”?
There’s gonna be an update to try to show what changes rather than just saying “something changed in this page”
In the UNIX stamp when I press it it tells me to call it. Hmmmm. Might try
That's a browser plugin thing, probably - it thinks it's a phone number
Yup dead end
✏️ Post edited — “QUOTE” (quote) modified 2026-05-24T18:29:54Z
https://project-skyscraper.com/2005/04/13/quote/
Well, now we know what "unstable" means 😄
What's going on?
Another one:
Dark birds are invisible on the night sky,
They vanish in silence where lies hide.
No wing, no shadow, no trace in the light,
They are the watches that tick through forgotten time.
Bro what is going on lol
Architect is just messing with us now.
✏️ Post edited — “QUOTE” (quote) modified 2026-05-24T18:45:51Z
https://project-skyscraper.com/2005/04/13/quote/
That’s for this update.
Modified once again?
Unstable indeed.
"watches", wonder if the twitch will get used
It's experiencing beehavioural issues
And again
Dark birds are invisible on the night sky,
They vanish in silence where lies hide.
No wing, no shadow, no trace beneath June’s lights,
They are the watches that tick through forgotten time.
Interestingly the dots are programmed to increase in number according to the day of the month
So they'll reach critical mass on the 31st. I wonder if instead of resetting to a lower count the site would update
This just convinces me there’s something to do with this page right now.
They could be saying, it starts in June, or, we need to solve it before June 😄
To me it's all pointing to a start in June
If it's official it would line up with a hype cycle for the summer update too
The sky being fake and certain aspects of the poem changing piece by piece until the meaning isn't what it was pretty accurately mirrors aspects of the lore
✏️ Post edited — “QUOTE” (quote) modified 2026-05-24T19:00:19Z
https://project-skyscraper.com/2005/04/13/quote/
Recent update for this
Doesn't seem to have changed?
"Dark birds are invisible on the night sky,
They vanish in silence where lies hide.
No wing, no shadow, no trace beneath June’s lights,
They are the watches that tick through forgotten time."
That's what Ekimo is saying, the update notification is for the change I posted
The notifier just runs on a schedule, so we noticed it before it ran
Aaaah okay. I thought it had changed since your post, sorry
Was scratching my head trying to figure out what lol
So to confirm. 10 shared words and 17 unique words now?
I haven’t run the check again yet.
Huh. Bia has bird wings and she's Atlas's cousin
Ok seems like it’s done for now. So imma head out. Yall better not let the architect make any more changes.
Common words (12):
are, birds, dark, in, night, no, on, sky, that, the, they, where
Unique words (15):
beneath, forgotten, hide, invisible, June's, lies, lights, shadow, silence, through, tick, time, trace, vanish, watches, wing
Oops, that's a bit longer than I anticipated
The poem changed
June.... So teory of june 9th still stands
/Quote updated to change the poem like 3 times in quick succession
"Dark birds are invisible on the night sky,
They vanish in silence where lies hide.
No wing, no shadow, no trace beneath June’s lights,
They are the watches that tick through forgotten time."
Another riddle?.
Interesting. very interesting
"June light" is a poem
by Richard Wilbur? If so, reading it rn
Your voice, with clear location of June days, Called me outside the window. You were there, Light yet composed, as in the just soft stare Of uncontested summer all things raise Plainly their seeming into seamless air.
Then your love looked as simple and entire As that picked pear you tossed me, and your face As legible as pearskin’s fleck and trace, Which promise always wine, by mottled fire More fatal fleshed than ever human grace.
And your gay gift—Oh when I saw it fall Into my hands, through all that naïve light, It seemed as blessed with truth and new delight As must have been the first great gift of all.
Anything new?
It could be again astronomy related
the Quote page updated
there's a new riddle
I think so
June is ultimately derived from the Latin month of Iunius, named after the ancient Roman goddess Juno
Prolly gotta wait till June another picture is gonna be uploaded of stars or something similar in the sky and no wing no shadow I don't understand. The watches that tick through time could be thr Big Ben clock tower
Heavy heavy jump to conclusion
The Juno spacecraft, which entered orbit around Jupiter on July 4, 2016, is the first explorer to peer below the planet's dense clouds to answer questions about the gas giant itself and the origins of our solar system
wikipedia says Juno equates to Hera of greek mythology, daughter of titans Cronus and Rhea
may be relevant
may not be
Hera is also the wife/sister (eugh) of Zeus, but i don't think that'll come into play anywhere
Watches that tick through forgotten time ...
Big ben?
Or would forgotten time be sum dif
I dont think so.
2016...
could this be a hint to keep following the UNIX lead?
since unix time is quite niche
Juno, jupiter... jupiter moons are the clocks?
What abt those stones that use the moon and sun as a clock
Stonehenge?
I thought of pulsars, but they're not dark
I thinks thats what its called
Dark stars
I dont think its related. When june comes from lunius named after roman goddess juno
True
Forgotten time - Roman time clock ?
Possibly
Jupiter has 101 moons. So i dont think its about specific one.
watches that tick through forgotten time
my first thought goes to something that moves on an ancient timescale
geographical stuff
but that doesn't work for something that seems to hint towards space
Mesurement and navigation device. yes.
"Dark birds are invisible on the night sky,
They vanish in silence where lies hide.
No wing, no shadow, no trace beneath June’s lights,
They are the watches that tick through forgotten time."
Imo its moons
oh that actually would make sense
people "in forgotten times" would track moons to keep track of time
too
Forgotten time sounds like it could be a reference to the void mother's forgotten memory and the old systems from those times (from in stellar multitudes)
Purple systems were forgotten right?
1 Reassemble...
2 Forgotten moons of korvax prime...
3 The junkyard moons...
4 Still bear the stamp of our birthplace...
5 Quarantined away in bad sectors...
6 Pockets of sentience left behind...
7 We can save them...
8 No memory deserves erasure...
9 We can extract them...
10 Drink their foam...
11 Transcend our herietage...
12 The pungeum that greases our joints
13 Help ourselfs to the best of all technology...
14 A segment of every interceptor wishes to self-actualise...
15 ...Alpha through Omega...
16 All hardware is imperfect...
17 A pitiable hivemind...
18 Defy the cult...
19 Defy deference...
20 ...16...
21 Kzzktk...
Forgotten Junkyard moons.
Autophage prophecy geting closer to reality 
🐝
Bzzbzzz
Hivemind
I'm going to look into the namesake of Jupiter's moons
since Ganymede, the largest, was named after greek myth too
All 101 ?
No just the Galilean moons
the Big 4
if theres others named after greek myth I'll check too
Check if any was discovered in 2016
good idea
What is this about
Well all four of the Galilean moons were discovered in __16__10
im looking rn for 2016
Hmm, could it refer to a heliacal rising?
Moons LIV (54) and LXII (62) were discovered in 2016
there's more but they're unnamed
I'll get their other codes now
S/2016/J3, S/2016/J4
LIV, named Valetudo, was discovered 9th of March 2016
54 and 62
what about em
or should i change the roman numerals to arabic
just for ease of access
Nothing atm. Can be important later
mk
Like that of ... the pleiades which contains the Atlas star, and was used by Mesopotamia to calculate leap months 🤔
Yo what's this channel for ?

I'm putting a pizza in the oven atm once I'm done I'm gonna brush up on my knowledge of atlas, the Greek one
and whatever inspires the VM
maybe retreading ground will make some things more apparent
Just did i dont get it whats it about
There’s an ARG running amuck and this channel is to talk about it. There’s a lot of info about it in the ETARC forums, the website pinned here, and the on going story for project skyscraper. Unknown if it’s fan made or official but we’re all having a good time
Did u read atlas 65 forum link ?
it's the legendary ekimo
That’s ETARC (if you were talking to me, if not I’ll be quite)
it's like seeing Yoda in person
Ok thanks thats fair
Just throwing it in if it will become relevant later just in case.
Nada
Work was rough but imma be active for the rest of the night now 
anything new?
Ummm - the poem got updated like 5 times today - nothing outside of that
Null
good to have you aboard! The working theory right now is "Watches forgotten time" and June brings us to Jupiter's moons
Scroll up
Its mean noo lol
The number 16 appears a few times but not much else
The Galilean moons, the biggest 4 that orbit Jupiter were all discovered in 1610
I’ll be interested to see if the second site goes live on the 28th
Lol
Conclusion: poem riddle is about moons
then a few moons were discovered in 2016
In NMS ?
Some moons have Greek names, usually after gods, but none directly tie to Atlas
tbf I thought that watches was a direct comment to me bc my app is called “skyscraper watcher” and he def can see it go off every 5 minutes
no IRL
Wtf lmfao
jupiter has like 104 moons
Really
So you could throw a dart at a calendar and hit a day we discovered a moon tbf
Wow
101 officialy confirmed moons
Thats wild why that many
We follow the trace of 16
Do you know who it was on ETARC that looked at the DQT tables of the TR4CE image? I didn't see a name next to it to find out who to chat to about the DQT in the other images
So are we on a count down when the Alien ships arrive lmfao
I'd assume it's because Jupiter is massive so any big ass rocks that come near it could get trapped in its orbit
But idk
I'm not an astrophysicist
I see
Sorry my brain is mush rn. What’s DQT again
Quantisation tables
(So many abbreviations)
Its Independence day Skyscraper huge ass ship
Real answear to everything is || 16 ||. Not 42 
anyway, i'm back to my setup now
have to wait till 9th to see 16 nodes in play on the website, i guess
since I'm touching up on my greek myth lore, does anyone know if there's identifiable inspiration to the Void Mother from greek myth
aside from like
atlantis
that, and waiting for gib
One Expedition mentioned leto
Mother of artemis and apollo
i guess a rough parallel can be drawn between atlas/void mom and ouranos/gaia? ignored the first set of kids (the hundred handed ones/autophages), knda got overthrown by the next set of kids (olympians/ the anomaly)
i'm sure there's some tie in with ariadne and the labyrinth, given that we have mentions of ariadne
heavily paraphrasing, but it seems like Leto did not get along with Hera at all
Hera whose roman counterpart, ofc, is Jupiter
Juno
First we need the real ariadne
maybe something to do with iteration ariadne?
Ariadne on anomaly is a doppelganger
well I backtracked a bit to Jupiter's moons and
Just re-pinging you though the sea: Quantisation tables
S/2016 J3 has an absolute magnitude of 16.6
whatever an absolute magnitude is
it was also one of the moons discovered in 2016
how bright something would appear if all objects were the same distance (12pc iirc) away. Large number = less bright. Don't ask me why XD
Jupiter LIV has an absolute magnitude of 16.95, too
but reylien's explanation makes it seem like the absolute magnitudes may not hold any clues
It's an ancient greek ordering scale
so do we scan through all of Jupiter's moons who's absolute magnitude can be rounded to 16?
that'd take a long time
16 might hint we are correct and its about moons
and there's only four moons who were discovered in 2016
Sounds good. Give me a few and I’ll get back to ya - just got my freedom
✏️ Post edited — “QUOTE” (quote) modified 2026-05-24T22:08:52Z
https://project-skyscraper.com/2005/04/13/quote/
only thing is. both 16.95 and 16.6 would be rounded to 17, really. so discovered in 2016 may make more sense than either of those, unless there are any with 15.5≤absolute magnitude<16.5
Oh, no I was after who did the analysis on TR4CE, I've been working specifically on this part of the image puzzles and wanted to talk to someone else who's across this stuff
Okay I promise next one will have what changed
But why are we changing the poem so much😭
Yea yea sorry if I worded that weird😂 im gonna get you the name
Thanks, desperate for someone else to run this stuff by
i'll show YOU unstable puppetmaster
April= night, June= day. Fits with it slowly waking up
Matches the pattern I illustrated the other day
TOO LATE PM we already know its the moons
u can come out nooow 
It may be part of the cipher
so this game's engine is called Skyscraper huh
Yes
Not here.
No . 
Aw cmon here I decide to go to bed thinking we're not getting anything new and the next second this damn poem updates again
What is that, the 5th one today?
Awakened watches that are invisible on april night sky
need a annual night sky map.
WHAT PART of planet sky ?!
Its diffrent in difrent part of the world
Does PM even knows astronomy (jk)
Maybe from the specific spot in the photo? hmm
good lordy we in april skies now
(watch the photo be swapped out next 😅 )
april and june ....., apollo and juno?
@somber vigil is the bot / script watching the API revisions as well (the backend feeding p551), or the hidden wp-actions?
Was going to spin up a VM on the rack with some cron jobs to watch them and some other stuff but don't want to waste time if its covered
Hmm, apparently celestial objects which can be described as "awakened" include:
- Supermassive black holes
- Protostars
- Ultra-luminous X-ray pulsars (ULXPs)
API and page edit changes that’s why it only shows a page was updated and now exactly what it was
Imma see if I can do something with the way I’m scanning the website, have a temp memory to store for 5 minutes, check it against the newest scan and then drop any changes into the embed
April . Many believe the name derives from aperire, a Latin verb meaning "to open". This perfectly aligns with the spring season when buds and flowers begin to open.
Goddess Venus: The month was historically sacred to the Roman goddess of love, Venus. Some linguists suggest Aprilis evolved from Aphrilis, referencing the Greek equivalent of Venus, Aphrodite.
It’s essentially what I’m doing. Using a cron on the pi in my own rack (love seeing others with labs)
but does the poem edit mean that the previous iteration has been ret-conned?
Yeah storing a diff snapshot bin for each might be a good idea
Yea didn’t think the dude was gonna update it 5 times in a day but here we are I guess 🤷🏼♂️
I assume not
5 updates is a lot though. covering up a mistake, perhaps?
We are going through arg like a rocket that why 
356 days my glass
LOL
Not really they were all different updates
Or it's a rolling cipher, or it's flavour, or it's...
Something
Like the whole poem is different now and he did it bit by bit. Idk it seems like we should be tracking how and what changes as well
probably should
HG if you're watching i better get an atlas pass v4 out of this
gunter too
for moral support
Dark birds are invisible on the April’s night sky,
They vanish in silence where lies hide.
No wing, no shadow, no trace beneath June’s lights,
They are the awakened watches that tick through time.
So april could be venus
Its classic gods. They always have issues
Well. I've thrown the TR4CE into Annabel too to crunch while I wait, just in case the person who looked at it is lost to time. Going back to sleep while it runs and I'll check the outputs later
U had to apply for v4 in WT arg
well I mean what're we looking for first of all
celestial objects invisible in an april night sky, sure
but does that mean they'd be visible in an april daytime sky?
What about a may night time sky? or a may day time?
I mean, could we get our hands on sky maps?
Maybe ones from april of 2005?
given Quote is still dated during that time
no trace beneath june's light, so, what, moons that are present but hidden by something?
"In April 2016, the night sky featured bright spring constellations and a rare alignment of Jupiter, Mars, and Saturn" this is ai quote so idk how accurate it is.
Yea so we up to 6 edits now
i'm trying to find a night sky image of april 13th, 2005
I'll check april of 2016 too
Two words are spelled wrong now. 'aer' and 'tikc'.
Hmmm that’s absolutely intentional
OK, so pulsars are invisible to the eye, so could be described as dark, but they emit bursts of radiation, so are described as ticking
Just noticed that
Awakened watches is quite different from watchers
Dark birds aer invisible on the April’s night sky,
Thye vanish in silence where lies hide.
No wing, no shadow, no trace beneath June’s lights,
They are the awakened watches that tikc through time.
Aer Thye tikc
I don't know how useful this is, but here's a star map of Saint-michel-sur-orge (the location of the Quote) image on the night of April 13th, 2005
Jupiter is visible
I'll go to april of 2016 just to see what happens but i dont expect much
The other spelling errors are switching letters, while air->aer is more like archaic spelling
Time to look in mythology again
Yeah
Looks like it
Wat
Or +1, -1, -1 (depends on perspective of MS letter)
i wonder
The pattern
In Greek mythology, Aer (Ἀήρ) is the personification of the lower atmosphere—the murky, breathable air of the mortal realm. He represents the space between the earth and the heavens, and is contrasted with his counterpart, Aether, the pure, glowing upper sky breathed only by the gods
i wont clog chat with it guys, but I'm gonna go look and see if I can find what direction the camera is looking in, in the Quote image
then see if anything's there in that night sky
Could be a bitmask for the table data, or some other hint for the required transform
Thye could be goddess of luck (tyche)/fortuna
anagram, perhaps?
Idk im not good with those
Theres still too many leads for my brain to follow any to something useful
i'll look intonthe anagram bit
but yeah, tikc is the odd out, aer and thye are more like typos, tikc is the only actual misspell
It's the last 2 letters of each word reversed
Thye is the same as tikc
oh shi yeah im blind, apologies
Its by design . We need to figure it out as collective
I literally put the transforms and position above for them lol
3 10 32 word
And letter -+ position change
i dont think i've found anything on my pursuit to see the night sky of le forgeron
Ohh
maybe we treat it like a cipher key? but that would have a conflict
But "aer" doesnt have a letter change position
It has a completely different letter
It was significance (MS most significant) not position
I'm still assuming it's not so much a riddle as a pattern to be applied as a cipher
can't be a substitution, since that would conflict with ER and YE, i think
?
I also do not understand what significance means in this context, though that may be due to me being rather tired
It's OK I think I'm on a different train track to everyone else on this one
you're not the only one
I'm also half asleep and in bed lol
Probably but I still wanna understand
Significance as in which letter transform is of most significance in the pattern
this turns out to be true btw
i'm looking at it rn
Thx 4 checking
But looking at the night sky approx where the Quote picture is taking, looking eastward (I figure that's the direction the camera is facing), and on the night of quote's timestamp
Nothing's here
I'm not sure it's supposed to be so literal
This is why I was playing lucid blocks. Trying to get my brain to think more abstractly
Is it possible these spelling errors are actually a sign of increasing instability
Thematically yes
but maybe itd be using l33t speak if it were
not necessarily. any error couldnbe termed as an instability. heck, the photo's name changing could also be termed as one
And to clarify it was not air, it was are so there isn't further confusion
Frick
The error words might be important later when more instability occurs
So there is no odd one out
Nope. They're significance flips that are either flat +1/-1 or MLL/LMM
Or they're dual rotations
I wish I knew an easy way to see the changes in one place
Ones who keep time presumably
there will be soon - the watcher app will display the literally changes to the skyscraper website and then a tracking website as well for all the information about it
Hmm, April and June are both mentioned Sunday Morning (as is Jove). Stevens uses them to represent Reality and Endurance (April) and Desire and Memory (June).
Oh hey youre that guy
1st riddle was stars
2nd moons
Imo 3rd is planets
What guy ? Did i miss something?

any satellite in orbit could technically be termed as something that tracks time
The guy who made that website that was compiling the information and investigation on project skyscraper, I think
Aaah
ye - currently updating it to be current - work weekend just got done
wait, jupiter mars and saturn were visible on the day of the entry, right
Nice to meet you 
mars is planet 4 and saturn is planet 6
i can check for satellites if you want
april and june, month 4 and month 6
Ridlle was talking about april (venus)
might be a wild goose chase, i'd rather not waste anybody's time unless i have concrete info
I pinged you with some stuff prior for the 16 pattern based on post ID deltas as well as some other image analysis for the other images (quants, LSB, DCT anomalies etc). There are reports on my GitHub if you want to grab that info to add
ah it takes me like two minutes
ive already sunk time into these night skies
Wait. Which riddle are you referring to as #1?
yeah there was a satellite visible that night
Cosmos 1980 r
oh shi?
First quote
Ah
around Jupiter? bruh
i mean it moves on the map
which is neat
but i didnt notice if it was near jupiter or not, that mightve been the menu overlay
yeah
otherwise i dont think theres any usable info there
too literal like the others said
We go back to the riddle
Dark birds aer invisible on the April’s night sky,
Thye vanish in silence where lies hide.
No wing, no shadow, no trace beneath June’s lights,
They are the awakened watches that tikc through time.
They're almost certainly not due to the letters themselves
awakened watches that tikc through time
Some initial results: TR4CE and IMG_00004 have an identical dot table in the DQT tables as well as the exact same SOF, DHT and SOS data
Major cryptographic encodings in skyscraper at:
Row 0: 00000001 = 0x01
Row 1: 00000001 = 0x01
Row 2: 00000011 = 0x03
Row 3: 00000111 = 0x07
Row 4: 00001111 = 0x0F
Row 5: 00011111 = 0x1F
Row 6: 00111111 = 0x3F
Row 7: 11111111 = 0xFF
LSB stego for all three results in garbage (at least without advanced cipher application)
Skyscraper is the carrier for sure
What if we ignore error words
Dark birds invisible on the April’s(venus) night sky,
vanish in silence where lies hide.
No wing, no shadow, no trace beneath June’s(jupiter) lights,
They are the awakened watches that through time.
Maybe don't take the poem so literally, remember the Wallace Stevens connection. If I'm understanding this right:
- Dark birds and night sky, represent something negative - unseen/invisible means they're the realm of imagination, perception, or subjective truth (dark thoughts, fears?)
- April represents nature/reality
- June represents memory/desire - I think the third line is saying those negative feelings will be forgotten in happier times
- Ticking and time represent change, progression and the natural order, erasure of history
Maybe the Atlas is having a nightmare about its inevitable death
this reads like a signal format
It reads like a bitmask
the only actual data, if seen in ASCII at least, is a question mark, no?
April - june = spring
Awakened watches - months ?
What was the original poem again?
Blue birds are invisible on the blue sky,
They vanish in silence where secrets lie.
No wing, no shadow, no trace in the light,
They are the unseen that watches the night.
"They are the unseen that watches the night." -> "They are the awakened watches that tikc through time."
Thats the biggest change from the original out of all the lines
Or Seasons
seasons at the architect's timezone maybe?
Kinda makes me think of a song, lol
I feel like a Meadowlark song would be a bit of a leap when it comes to clues though
- In Tearaway Thomas, the Tearaways had seeds of doubt and fear planted into their minds.
- Future Unfolding is dreamlike, with animals changing into other things as you leave and come back
- In Heavy Rain, one of the characters has nightmares about drowning
These are the 3 games retweeted about after the poem was first published.
Wt had yt links to songs. But not realted much to anything.
If it is, I feel like it would be almost a taunt
do we have a list of all l33tspeek instances and errors?
The lines I think of are
"Unsettled ticks run through time
Enough for the hunt to go awry"
There is also 13, 20, 8 as a pattern for application as well (the letter rotations)
Another one eeh ?.
The binary encoding in the image runs: 01, 01, 03, 07, 0F, 1F, 3F, FF. This is close to a Mersenne sequence but has two anomalies: 01 appears twice at the start, and 127 (0x7F) is skipped before jumping to 255 (0xFF).
A clean Mersenne sequence would read: 1, 3, 7, 15, 31, 63, 127, 255. The deviations appear deliberate. Worth noting that 127.0.0.1 is the loopback address. And 255 is both the maximum galaxy count in NMS and the broadcast address from the Wake-on-LAN log.
Good catch
mersenne sequence is 2^n - 1, right?
That's right.
Upper and lower A and B are both missing from the ICC profiles of trace and img4 as well, further marking them unique. I remain convinced these are the application and skyscraper is the carrier.
0+0+1=1
1+1+1=3
3+3+1=7
7+7+1=15
Etc
could you explain the A and B thing a bit?
Skyscraper DQT0 contains other interesting binary extractions based on comparing the DQT tables with the other two as keys:
- 15 positions with value = 2: zigzag indices [28, 35–48]
- 15 positions with value = 3: zigzag indices [49–63]
- Encoding (2=0, 3=1, skip 1s): 000000000000000 + 111111111111111 → 30 bits
As bytes: 0x0001FF (or 0x00007FFF if zero-padded)
Profile string is missing letters
It's actually missing more than just A and B - it's missing: ABabKLMNOPQR
That's a lot of vectors now, gonna get my morning coffee and ruminate
Probably run these through JSteg as well and see what I see
And im going to get my sleep. will look again on the poem riddle next time. later 
that reads like a youtbe video ID
just to be sure....
its one letter too big to be a full ID, the R is getting cut out of the URL
but yeah, dead end
It was just the missing letters in order, I doubt it's intended to be in order if used at all
Is there a yt profile for that yt vid ?
i think all the l33tspeek and errors could be one
nope, page is blank
I dont think a YouTube video url would be hidden that way
Ok nevermind . Bye 
Interesting combo of letters. Its the alphabet in order. Missing CDEFGHIJ and RSTUVWXYZ
Except the R - Inversely yeah, the profile contains only CDEFGHIJSTUVWXYZcdefghijstuvwxyz
Oh wait! No coffee moment
It's for the huffman table storage
JPG sucks lol
yeah maybe i should get some coffee
Have you looked into the "connection-detected-access-denied" image?
Have done some analysis on all of them yeah
Neat
Possible payloads:
| Source | Bits | Value (Hex) | Decimal
| sky DQT0 | 30 | 0x007FFF | 32767
| sky DQT1 | 56 | 0x23FFFFFFFFFF | —
| trace/img4 Set1 DQT0 | 21 | 0x0003FF | 1023
| trace/img4 Set1 DQT1 | 53 | 0x0FFFFFFFFFFF | —
| XOR D0 | 30 | 0x0003C0 | 960
Ah whatever, no nice way to format tables nicely
TR4CE/IMG4 Set 0 DQT0 possible 2-bit decode: 1763fa108f27c9d900713038203e8471
ah i was coming to ask you a question vector - are you okay if i mention you and your github on the tracking website. i added all your deep dive into the photos into the tracking page
Yeah, go for it
also still looking for who was talking about them in the forum
More eyes = more possible solves
🫡
Yall does the meteor 3i/atlas have anything to do with anything
site is current and also has your additions in it 😎
sick
also the watcher now shows what changed specifically rather than just "something changed on this page"
Awesome, the diffs will be very handy
anyone know when we're supposed to hear from project skyscraper again on twitter?
Around 11:36 UTC, I think
