light-no-fire

[dense rain]

||there are people here who don't know about this lore, please spoiler your stuff||

[cunning lion]

How

[dense rain]

|| (2x) either side

[cunning lion]

???

[dense rain]

||

|

this^character

[cunning lion]

||Hi||

||There could be a connection to the world of glass with it possibly just being a archive for the diversity of the universe||

[dense rain]

||Light No Fire could be another one of atlas's simulations but that would be kinda lame||

[cunning lion]

||ya but it might have something to do with abyss or just nothing to do with nms but that would be even lamer||

[dense rain]

for you

[dense rain]

LNF is likely going to be built for next gen harware, and those of us who have PCs with older hardware not being able to get the remaining lore of NMS firsthand would suck

my used RX 6650 xt that was used for crypto mining watching me test lnf's performance on anything above normal graphics settings: 😰

[dusk hatch]

What ever gave you that impression?

No Mans Sky runs on Switch. The graphic fidelity of LNF trailers was no more impressive than NMS.

I think you underestimate the power of the engine HG built

[sterile furnace]

what if LnF is a much older iteration?

[dire stream]

Mm I think you should look at the LNF trailer again. The level of tree density alone is an order of magnitude greater than anything in NMS. Water improvements. Much more detailed cloud tech. Probably greater draw distance. There's no way a Switch or the PS4 is going to run it.

[worldly crown]

I really hope they drop the whole Atlas thing, but I'm alone in how disappointing that story hook was

[cinder notch]

You are not alone

However
I’m weary of people trying to ship these two games together
There is no obligation to link them even if it’s the same game engine

Maybe an Easter egg but not a plot device

[worldly crown]

so how will the game be played?
is there only one character option like in nms, or will there be classes to choose from?

[sand wasp]

All we know is the trailer

[cinder notch]

All we know is the trailer

[sharp hollow]

It does look like there will at least be different races

[cinder notch]

i think the question was more about classes

#play-no-skyrim

[sharp hollow]

Yeah that's a good point

[worldly crown]

is there an official trailer or two?

[pallid grove]

Just one

[worldly crown]

link?

[pallid grove]

A pin @worldly crown

[worldly crown]

hmmm

very pretty

[opaque citrus]

No mans skyrim

I hope for good story.

[cinder notch]

I hope for an endgame
Which is my primary gripe with nms

Do you hear me Sean

[worldly crown]

seconded

[sharp hollow]

that was my first though lol

[worldly crown]

if that last part of the trailer is a reference to Sam Fennah's book I'll def buy it when it comes to switch

[dry gale]

Wait there's going to be a new NMS game?
FYI I live under a rock

[tidal mantle]

come out the exile, wizard

[dry gale]

I am exile will forever be exile

[sterile furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/gandalf-a-wizard-is-never-later-gif-11324448

https://discord.gg/Light-No-Fire

[dry gale]

I still like living under a rock sometimes

Especially with everything happening everywhere

[languid laurel]

New game hell yea

Is fhis related to NMS at all? Cover art has similar aesthetic

[opaque citrus]

Expect NMS in skyrim ish fantasy skin

Story probably will not be related to nms.

Maybe some easter eggs

[cinder notch]

Maybe a blob hidden in a remote cave somewhere

[pallid grove]

or a cave painting

[sterile furnace]

yes! with little bunny people fighting a Sentinel in a group with spears !

[tired gulch]

the last resistance against sentinels

[tidal mantle]

I would bet they will reuse the concept of || the world is inside a simulation||

[crystal willow]

I hope they don't, I want a proper fantasy setting

[sharp hollow]

agreed

it was good for nms, probably not for a fantasy game

[sterile furnace]

What if LnF is an older iteration? Or what if it is the "creator's" planet? 👀

: ✌️

[opaque citrus]

What if its totaly unrelated, totaly seperate universe?

[sterile furnace]

What if it turns out to be an RTS? 😬

[tidal mantle]

at that planetary scale, it would blow strategists' minds

[fierce dune]

Light No Fire? More like

Yea

[worldly crown]

Redwall!

[neat bear]

What if it's a video game

[sterile furnace]

shush and take my money

[sand wasp]

Yeah right

Text based adventure

[neat bear]

Turn based strategy

[old hornet]

It’s actually going to be a turn based card game

Damn it lol you beat me to it lmao

[sand wasp]

Roll to see how many dice to roll for your roll on strength

[old hornet]

Lmao 🤣

Roll this dice so you can roll those dice and then pick one card

Aren’t you having fun

Oh this card says you built a house

[neat bear]

It's a 50 sided die but each face has the whole story on it

[old hornet]

Lmao 🤣

Can it be made out of lead

[neat bear]

Don't be silly, it's digital

You only need the right thumb stick to play the game

Git gud at rolling

[old hornet]

So essentially it’s Gwent

[neat bear]

Better

Gwent doesn't have the cool 50 sided die

[old hornet]

This is true

[neat bear]

The only thing procedural is the die

[old hornet]

But there’s no black

[neat bear]

It's just gonna end up being one outcome anyway

[sand wasp]

One can hope

[neat bear]

Have you unlocked the Gleam ending for the Trophy yet

[cinder notch]

NMS: You have died of space dysentery

LNF: You have died of medieval dysentery

[neat bear]

Fantasy setting dysentery
It's like, magical n shit

[cinder notch]

Eldgar casts Disintegrating Bowels for d66 damage

[pallid grove]

https://tenor.com/view/antman-what-the-hell-happened-here-avengers-gif-18240147

[neat bear]

Extinction event, I was right there when it happened

[gritty cliff]

Stepping on one of those as a parent is nightmare fuel.

[uneven shuttle]

The true nightmare is stepping on one when you don’t have kids

[pallid grove]

https://tenor.com/view/torch-fire-gif-9675817

[cinder notch]

Extinguish all water

[echo belfry]

https://soundcloud.com/noble-irish/light-no-fire-fan-made?si=80eb0e0b74424e219ce64a2abe38710c&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

[patent furnace]

Ooh So pretty. Did you make it?

You should also share it in the LNF Discord if you haven't!
https://discord.gg/lightnofire

<t:1749929163:d> Edit: Discord Url was updated. No more dashes / old link no longer valid: https://discord.gg/light-no-fire

check it out @sand wasp @neon whale @sterile furnace

Will repost for embed to show although not playable within the embed

Reshare from @echo belfry's post above:
https://soundcloud.com/noble-irish/light-no-fire-fan-made?si=80eb0e0b74424e219ce64a2abe38710c&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

[echo belfry]

👍 just share it there to light no fire discord

[tardy marsh]

The beacons are lit! 🌎 🔥

[cinder notch]

Korvax calls for aid!

[opaque citrus]

🌍🌏🌎

[echo belfry]

https://www.tiktok.com/@cryptoinsights360/video/7391023856661663008?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7363233119232673313

[coarse birch]

Let’s ask chatgpt

This is what chatgpt said:

Given the emojis 🌍🌏🌎, which represent different views of the Earth, it's likely that the teaser is related to No Man's Sky, rather than "Light no Fire." Here's the reasoning:

1. Pattern of Updates: As you mentioned, Sean Murray and Hello Games have a history of using emojis to hint at upcoming updates or expeditions for No Man's Sky. The use of Earth-related emojis could imply a focus on planetary updates or features, which aligns with the game's theme of space exploration and planetary discovery.

2. Content of the Emojis: The three Earth emojis could suggest something expansive and global, which fits well within the context of No Man's Sky, where exploration spans multiple planets and systems. It could hint at a major update involving planets, new biomes, or even an overhaul of planetary systems.

3. Community Expectations: The No Man's Sky community is accustomed to deciphering these teasers in relation to game updates. Since this pattern is established, it's more plausible that the emojis are signaling something related to No Man's Sky.

4. Timing and Announcement: Given that "Light no Fire" was announced recently, it’s less likely that they would start teasing it with such an ambiguous hint so soon. They might focus on promoting and providing concrete information about the new game rather than using cryptic messages.

Based on these points, it seems most probable that the emojis 🌍🌏🌎 are hinting at an upcoming update or new expedition in No Man's Sky, potentially involving planetary exploration or new features related to the game's vast universe.

[cinder notch]

Once again ai proves itself worthless

[tardy marsh]

And Gek will answer!

[lunar bear]

Sk what's the status on lnf

Will ot be another triple word A game by (o belive it was) Hello Games?

[opaque citrus]

No lnf is still inde game. Hello games has less than 100 pepole.

[queen flint]

Wonder if it'll get a series x/ps5 port

Tbh i think it'll come much later. I doubt hg wants to be bound by the limits of the series s and consoles and would rather focus on having the game be a smooth experience with less jank than nms on launch before even considering consoles

[opaque citrus]

Lnf is for probably current gen consoles and pc

[sand wasp]

Lol

Ask a dev what they would rather make a game for, something that has one architecture, or something that has a million varieties to try and account for

[cinder notch]

Yah nah
Consoles day one
Bet

[split meteor]

https://fxtwitter.com/nomanssky/status/1813539219987648643

https://x.com/nomanssky/status/1813541770023596515

Sean Murray (@NoMansSky) on X

Light No Fire is crazy ambitious and No Man's Sky updates continue at speed
♎️Omega allowed folks to play for free with a huge expedition
💫Orbital introduced ship customisation and vast new space stations
⚓️Adrift imagined what it would be like to explore an uninhabited universe

Twitter · Jul 17, 2024, 11:50 AM

[cinder notch]

Woop

[neat bear]

Nobody likes the answer to this

Even when you tell them how it is they'll just ignore it and go find an echo chamber

[tired gulch]

Also for game design in general it’s just genuinely more profitable to make it for multiple platforms

they wouldn’t abandon an entire portion of the community either, it would likely just be simplified if needed like with switch

[dense rain]

Sean what did this mean

[sterile furnace]

it was a summoning circle for Worlds update

[stray parcel]

Is there an official light no fire Discord yet

[sterile furnace]

made by this very same community yes
https://discord.gg/Light-No-Fire

[stray parcel]

Thanks!!!

[sterile furnace]

There is no "official" yet, since the game has not been launched.
Eventually it may receive the same recognition from Hello Games that this NMS discord has

Meaning Hello Games has not yet linked the discord on the Light No Fire website

[coarse robin]

I wanna make a kingdom in a coastal valley when this game drops

[pallid grove]

https://tenor.com/view/two-sames-gif-26048713

[shut sorrel]

What about dark yes water

[fast beacon]

Dude when this game drops I'm gonna have to make sure I have enough money for all my friends. Ain't no chance in hell I'm bumping into someone randomly

[soft kite]

[outer chasm]

Any new when it comes out and how much it be

[primal cairn]

Will No Man's Fire be multiplayer?

[cinder notch]

A single viewing of the preview trailer should answer that question easily

[brazen void]

Heya

[patent furnace]

https://youtu.be/jKQem4Z6ioQ

[eternal coyote]

is there a release date for this game yet?

[patent furnace]

No

[brazen void]

I think this game will be the first thing I try hard on. I have an amazing idea for a city and I plan on building it all.

[drifting lichen]

I hope this game comes to vr, NMS on VR was amazing

[kindred flax]

Don't get to many ideas, I'm not saying it's gonna be anywhere near as bad as the nms launch, but you know how game launches can be I assume.

[fringe pawn]

My guess is progression / news will prob happen this Winter at the games award. Highly doubt be a release announcement, just more info like another trailer, etc.

[tough glade]

i will build my kingdom on an island group if thats available. a mix of an medieval kingdom with a pirate style landscape

[short beacon]

nice 😺

[sharp hollow]

agreed

vr just makes games so much better

[tired gulch]

If it doesn’t support vr right away I think it would definitely be upcoming soon after

[simple thorn]

Are we all playing this one too when it comes out?

[pallid grove]

Probably

[simple thorn]

It seems cool. #impatientlywaitingformyupdate

[pallid grove]

Yeah, same.

[simple thorn]

I think many are

[sterile furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/so-many-people-crowded-packed-too-many-the-rock-gif-14056899

[simple thorn]

Hahahaha

[muted reef]

Release date speculation: some time in 2025. It has been in development for 5 years.

[brazen void]

I plan to build a viking city.

[copper aurora]

I just got back into nms and I heard about light no fire on the deep space travel break podcast and I was just wondering what the game was?

Ok a quick watch of the trailer aswered my 1st question but now I have so many more are the games lores connected is that red ball the atlas when and where in the multiple timelines how why

[sterile furnace]

We can send an email to Sean and ask :)

So far there's just not much to go by, only theories

[cinder notch]

All answers to these questions are speculation

There could be none or a lot

Between 0 and 100 %

The whole game could be a simulation by atlas

[short beacon]

🔥

[vestal bobcat]

That would be amazing, but I'm not holding out for anything before 2026 because I can't do that to myself 🤭

[drifting lichen]

I really hope they put more of an effort into the story, I wasn't a fan of how the story was told in NMS

[sterile furnace]

It's story telling in a scattered way.
The goal is more to pose questions about existencialism and phylosophy, rather than on-the-nose presenting a story.
Some people love it for being like that, but it's unsurprising that it's not everyone's cup of tea

[drifting lichen]

I think that kind of story telling fits well in a space sci-fi setting but I feel it won't translate as well into Light No Fire. I feel like an online fantasy game necessitates strong story telling to make players invested into the world, factions and quests.

Also as a tool I don't mind it, it can be an interesting way to tell a story, letting players discover their own truth from the environment. But it's not enough on it's own, relying mostly on that feels like a crutch to not write a comprehensive story. I feel like it's the writing equivalent of just vague posting and not commiting to anythig, it can be exhausting after a while.

[tough glade]

i saw ships in the trailer so that be very nice

[heady steeple]

seeing all the stuff they brought into worlds from this is crazy

[patent furnace]

[heady steeple]

i wonder if we will get mountains like that in the next update

🤔

[patent furnace]

that's the hope!

[cinder notch]

Mountains Gandalf

[noble merlin]

Could you play as a human in LNF?

[steel dagger]

When you see the Underwater scene it looks like there are 2 Human like players

[noble merlin]

That’s good

For NMS I’m always the anomoly because it’s most human like

[cinder notch]

on the /outside/

[sterile furnace]

shell

[cinder notch]

sheetz

[halcyon marsh]

I eagerly await the day I can dedicate my entire existence to Light No Fire

I came into No Man's Sky relatively late, and while I'm glad there's a lot to do, it's overwhelming to figure out where begin...

But to start from the beginning and progress as the game evolves? Sign me up!

I shall build a kingdom worthy of Gods by the time all is said and done!

Nay... A kingdom worthy of Gods is not grand enough.

I shall build a kingdom worthy of ME

[rigid aurora]

I will build a kingdom with my husband, as silly and fun as we can make it

[dusky mesa]

I really really hope that it functions as like an MMO and everyone’s kingdoms and stuff is on the same planet! Imagine if we had like countries emerge with wars and stuff, that would be the dream.

[short beacon]

I aim to do that with my guild

could have sworn I saw the word 'community' on the site or trailer... it seems 100% the kind of game where you can get something like that together

[boreal maple]

Nations with complex governmental systems probably won't work unless they either had these things in mind specifically or made the game so realistic.

[gritty cliff]

Sounds like world building from She Professed Herself Pupil of the Wise Man

[robust seal]

I wonder if light no fire will have any fast travel

It would definitely make sense for it to have some type of magical fast travel

[lyric nest]

I wonder if anyone will try to make "Around the world in 80 days" int a challage

[short beacon]

I’d hope that the world of light no fire is infinite in size, something like Minecraft

[sand wasp]

It's going to have to with the size

I think people still don't understand how big a planet is. They are used to videogame planets, and some feel huge! And they will be tiny in comparison.

[fathom arch]

idk much bout light no fire "but" i find that ui improvement is a BIG part of a game more then it has a right to be

so heres hoping

[void palm]

Considering it’s the size of earth and even some of the fastest transports still take hours/days to move around the entire earth it would need to have

[wraith thicket]

helo

[short beacon]

well met 👋

[drowsy yarrow]

Planets in NMS are 1% of the earth's size and need 25-28 hours to circumvent once. The scale is gonna be massive.

[merry mason]

So much this. Without some form of fast-travel people would be pretty much locked to an area, unless they could dedicate real-life weeks of their lives to trekking

[sterile furnace]

Looking forward to go on long expeditions with the broskis

Mounts will make traversal enjoyable enough

[sand wasp]

Yep for sure, and I'm looking forward to the scale and just wandering aimlessly

[frail spire]

i know its mean, but what if u could raid caravans of players/npcs and be some kind of highway robber?

that is if it takes effort to move resources long distances

like the guy carrying wood in the trailer

[sterile furnace]

would be cool. having to carry resources in carts in valheim was fun.. fun physics.
players will find lot's of ways around it or just mod the game ofc. But fun stuff

[frail spire]

im just imagining if piracy/highway robbery is a real threat in this game, then players will have to come up with secret trade routes, avoid river blockades, etc

or just become some all powerful otter wizard and blast on through

[cinder notch]

Hey, you, you’re finally awake.

[fathom arch]

awake finally you're you hey

=3

[upper timber]

you gave me an aneurysm

[fathom arch]

MISSION SUCCES lol

sorry

[upper timber]

lol

[short beacon]

Light yes fire

[short beacon]

🔥

[worldly crown]

seriously, caravan escort is a classic adventure hook

[undone gale]

Dark yes water

[orchid lynx]

"no" stands for "know" --> Light and Fire be bffs

[queen flint]

im expecting there to be multiple servers this time around

if they just shove everyone on one planet on one instance its gonna get crowded quick

regardless of how big it is

[coral rapids]

❤️‍🔥

[coral rapids]

💕

[tired gulch]

Expanding on what everyone else said, I’m kind of interested to see if fast travel wouldn’t be a thing at first

and instead that the “servers” are different spots on the planet to spread everyone out

[frail spire]

I hope we all start on a single noob continent and then everyone gradually spreads out like in real history, rather than being spread out right away. A continent is still massive, so plenty of room for players to start alone without seeing anyone else for a long time.

[boreal bolt]

I have actually thought about something like that. Like it's not a noob continet but something like the opening of Sword of The Art Online, in that, there is a central start node / area (to help with lag). Since it is a single planet, players could then spread out from there. Accross the planet and to the poles.

I would venture that as time goes on, techs / spells could come out that help with travel portals / stones so you could have a "highway" of sorts and then eventually port stations

It could then potential mirror life / media in that you would eventually have a "core" system that is probably new player friendly and what not going out into the "outter reachs / rim" where you could have more dangerous things

I mean it would naturally lead to villages / towns / minor & major cities that could then be ran by player friend groups / clans / guilds

I feel like they are already on a set path whatever it is but even still I wouldn't mind then in the future see'ing a map / server along the idea

A side note though, regardless of how it is excecuted, there should be a solo play option / offline choice......day 1 server issues / lag / connections will most defenitly be a thing XD

[full pivot]

I feel like they'll probably go with the No Man's Sky route where you can just go into the menu and toggle multiplayer on and off whenever

[cinder notch]

Meet No Players

[tender onyx]

I sincerely hope that light no fire has better multiplayer set up than nms

[proper oriole]

Darkness Yes Water

i wonder if this game’s lore is gonna be part of Yes Woman Ground

[merry mason]

extinguish maybe embers

i cannot express how much i am looking forward to this game dude

[patent furnace]

[tired gulch]

I fine it funny as a community we went from
No - Multi, Glow Lights, More Glow Lights, Woah I have a body, Woah you have a body, Civilizations

[tired gulch]

I imagine it might even support more players we can see, but 60 is probably enough

[tired gulch]

I think we’re good server wise since it should be the same server basis as NMS

You would likely see X amount of players based on your capable data

[cosmic pawn]

Nms definitely seemed at single player with a multiplayer option

[cosmic pawn]

Why don't they just do portals?

Could find other "realms" like thor

[cinder notch]

Maybe there will be a proto-Gek wizard who will transport you for a fee

[gritty cliff]

I look at it like the simulation is evolving 🙂 @tired gulch

[fathom arch]

god i hope this game doth do combat better then nms ((i dont hate it the thing just says as a "good"

[jovial crag]

is the release date from light no fire already known?

[sand wasp]

No

[versed mango]

is there a light no fire discord server

[crystal willow]

!lnflink @versed mango

[split meteor]

@versed mango https://discord.gg/light-no-fire

[crystal willow]

There is 😀

[worldly crown]

while we still have time before release I'd like to recommend something that sadly would have made NMS so much more than it is.
Npc's interacting with other Npc's. If you've played Summoner on PS2, you know what I mean.

in Summoner, you could walk past Npc's and overhear conversations (in text) happening in real time. A blacksmith interviewing an apprentice, a rake roasting a peasant, a guard interrogating an urchin... things that give culture to the setting.

the world happening around the main character instead of exclusively TO the main character

[sterile furnace]

That's almost how world building is done in any modern (and even older) RPG, if it has voice acting.
The question is if HG will add much voice acting to LnF, which requires a beefier budget, or if it will be more in line with NMS.

We're not even sure if there will be a lot of NPCs around. By the looks of the trailer seems there could be certain areas with them though

[worldly crown]

so maybe closer to Runescape?

[worldly crown]

it doesn't even need to be actual voice acting. I'm quite ok with it being text bubbles that just pop up near the speaking NPC when you walk past.

[lucid citrus]

That's pretty much what Ultima 7 did, it works fine.

[raw current]

What’s this channel for

[sand wasp]

Chat about HG's upcoming (no clue when) game, Light No Fire

[cinder notch]

!info

!lnf

!dostuffdumbot

!lnflink

[split meteor]

https://discord.gg/light-no-fire

[cinder notch]

!lnftrailer

https://youtu.be/jKQem4Z6ioQ

[silk oxide]

so like is this game's world a parallel world or a precursor world?

or just another world

i mean the references to the atlas and the relic symbols

could be sign of expies

[sand wasp]

It's just an Expedition

[median shuttle]

it's all the worlds in one

i believe that Light No Fire was a solution to a problem that Hello Games were trying to solve for NMS. This is pure speculation but Sean Murray LOVES Minecraft and set out to make a similar game except he couldn't get the biomes right so he split all the biomes up as different "planets", then produced NMS. Light No Fire could very well be the ORIGINAL vision for NMS. Just a theory though

[sand wasp]

Lol

[stark gale]

I just hope LNF has better multiplayer than NMS so it doesnt feel like a single player game with extra steps

[shrewd kettle]

I hope to see the same tbh.

[patent furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-nodding-same-gif-20608374

[floral robin]

I kinda want the other way I gain nothing finding places that others have alrady found the fronter dies by footprints

[floral robin]

which is odd concidering living on one...
But I think proper vehicles and naviation more than fst travel in a game like this.

[sudden jackal]

Y'all, they had me at riding flying dragons....

[cinder notch]

what's the top airspeed of a coconut laden flying dragon

[sand wasp]

Zoomy x 1

[sudden jackal]

Depends on if it's a Fighter dragon, a Shuttle, an Explorer, or a Hauler dragon

(see what I did there?)

[cinder notch]

i need me a hauler dragon with 48 inventory slots to sate my hoarding compulsions

it will fly like an albatross on weed but i don't care

[sudden jackal]

You might be a dragon if you have a hoarding compulsion! Just saying!

[cinder notch]

if we can rename our dragons i will call mine smaug

[sudden jackal]

Better get the first one then 😉

[cinder notch]

Sm00g

🎹

[sudden jackal]

Sm@Uagh

[empty shale]

@raw current yea there is a trailer, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKQem4Z6ioQ&t=2s

[raw current]

I watched it, idk if I’d play it or not

It’s meh compared to Nms

[empty shale]

I would absolutely play it

probably ending up buying it on launch day!

[noble bay]

I wonder if there's solar dragons.

[tired gulch]

You guys are thinking too small

I wonder if there's hydras

[noble bay]

Uh, I hope that the character customization isn't just customization.

For example animal characters have like claws or special abilities to them.

[tired gulch]

Im hoping we can have hybrid stuff like wings instead of jetpacks

I like being a half dragon in games

Like an evolved gek

[noble bay]

Uh, if there is like Medusa or something close I'm gonna be so pleased....

Like Greek monsters would go soo hard

[tired gulch]

Like im wondering how rpg they'll go with it

This is a whole engine focused on a planet

[noble bay]

Exactly, that would be awesome.

[tired gulch]

I always keep my expectations high and low at the same time

like if I get this and hype it up and it happens no way thats amazing

but if I get just a massive planet I can chill on

I like that too

I sometimes wish I stayed on planets longer than an hour in nms

but planet hopping is fun until I make a homeworld of a dangerous one and roam for around 10 hours

[noble bay]

I just want some of my friends to play the game with me lmao.

That seems sad doesn't it... it's not

[tired gulch]

and im the type that just loves the idea of exploring uncharted territory

so the idea of bringing friends along

and going on a journey no one else has gone before

I like that

Im really hoping for just a good planet

anything else is a cherry on top

[noble bay]

I wonder what they'll do with the puzzles or missions in the game, because if they suck like NMS/ are too repetitive it'll become boring quick

[noble bay]

I mean, it's like earth size...

So someplace will at least be good for someone

[tired gulch]

Yeah im excited for it

I don't know how handcrafted it'll turn out or if they modified the engine to trim stuff

but Im really hoping I can find stuff like massive caves with detailed walls, patterns maybe a hidden race somewhere in the core

If its not there though and seans watchin

give me a center of the earth fantasy area in the core

We cant go to the core in NMS

So I want the ability to dig down and live in the pits of the earth

[noble bay]

hopefully that if there's npc's they there wont be like 3-4

[tired gulch]

which I hope is possible since its one planet this time

the npcs from the video seemed pretty good

remniscent of remnant or ff

[noble bay]

If I could be human, that would be cool.
Kinda like skyrim in a way.

I mean, technically there's no way they could mess up, they've fixed a game up before lol

...Hobbit?

[tired gulch]

Yeah they've gotten good at it

and since the team just works on what they like

i'm hoping one day I can apply or make the same games on their level

[short beacon]

light-yes-fire

[kindred abyss]

I am very curious about it too. Hopefully, it won't mean the end of great patches for NMS every few months (i am even willing to pay a bit for some patches as some of them were really generous)

[random crystal]

Will I be able to light a fire?

[raw current]

No fire light 🗿

[lofty rose]

Fire the light

[swift flare]

Are there any major rumors or comments about when the whole thing will be released?

[sterile furnace]

[cinder notch]

7 days after sean posts a 🔥 emoji

[swift flare]

🤔

[opaque citrus]

Check of HG will be on gamescom

[jovial sedge]

No fire light

[short beacon]

Fire no light

[void palm]

Light Fire No

[waxen quartz]

I agree

[proper oriole]

Darkness Yes Water

[rose hound]

“Dark Some Water” (that's a countable ‘no’, not a negative ‘no’)

[cinder notch]

@seanmurrayz we are drowning in bad puns here, please drop us a new trailer or some tidbit

[rain rover]

Fire Light No

[sudden steeple]

DO we know how many players will be simultaneously on the same planet ?

[sterile furnace]

at least all

[sand wasp]

We know what the trailer told us

[sudden steeple]

Oh so no new news since the trailer so far ?

Except that the water will have waves and the clouds will be realistic

[opaque citrus]

We have only the trailer

[void palm]

It’s one singular planet

[opaque citrus]

In earth size

[short beacon]

lazy of HG to do an 'earth sized' planet... they don't even want to measure their own game smh my head

[outer stirrup]

I wouldn't be surprised if they do a nms x lnf collab. Next update and expedition could be it, with the end of the expedition revealing lnf's release date

[opaque citrus]

I would expect easter egg . Someone named nada or polo

[still igloo]

Looking forward to this.

[sudden steeple]

Oh, so around 21600 times bigger than NMS planets ?
(based on this https://www.reddit.com/r/NoMansSkyTheGame/comments/9lbcpx/the_size_of_planets_in_nms_more_details_in/)

[robust seal]

I'm really hoping they let you make custom ships you can sail around

[vapid thunder]

So is Light No Fire only about surviving on the one planet, and no space or is there an atmosphere where you can build satellites?

[robust seal]

And obviously pirate customizations

[robust seal]

No satellites because it's fantasy

[vapid thunder]

or somethin

[robust seal]

The whole power mechanic probably won't be in here

[vapid thunder]

ahh ok

[robust seal]

So a bit less advanced base building

[worldly crown]

just surviving? no battles or conflicts?

[void palm]

We wouldn’t know

All we know is what was shown in the first trailer

[boreal bolt]

I feel like there will be a sea and possible magic / portal system. Though I don't think boats will be right away. I could be wrong, they do have water skimmers in nms, so they might have something similar in light no fire

this would be down the line but if it goes well, if they could have some kinda of cross over realm / function. that would be cool

I think to keep it from getting to crazy....it would have to be avatar unlocks or something

Bunny space man.....

give him a little pep or something idk

hehe

[tidal jolt]

Isn’t it gone be a real life size of earth ? But is it gonna be like no man’s sky with a vast amount of people playing on one huge board or is it gonna be more tailored to groups playing sorta like a the forest scenario where it’s a solo survival based experience but can have a group of friends join you to play 🤙🏼

[shut wadi]

Says a multiplayer earth so I'm guessing a load of people on one planet maybe they will have some tech where you pop in and out of servers depending how close you are to other people

I think it's gonna be epic though imagine all the variety they spread out through infinite planets all put into one planet it should be really dense the amount of stuff they can have packed onto one planet

[cinder notch]

There has to be some distributed server model with each server having a 64 or 128 player limit, and some way to transition between servers geographically similar to cell tower coverage

But I don’t know how the transitions will work

It makes zero sense to attempt to have 10,000 players simultaneously in one location

[shut wadi]

I'm just guessing players will have a big radius around them and they will ping in and out if they are in range of each other and bases will load similar

[cinder notch]

But again what happens if you put a thousand players all on one dot

There has to be a splitting effect

Or some other limitation

Otherwise some group of goobers is going to try to break the server

For funsies

[shut wadi]

Is it possible to have loads of servers with identical versions of the planet and then the players you see are just basic projections of players from other servers

Anyways I hope that the different character types actually have unique perks and abilities, like the rabbit would have crazy agility and the otter would be really good at swimming and being able to stay under water longer

[tired gulch]

Likely the same as NMS would handle it

Based on console or platform you can see up to 64 people around you

anyone else usually vanishes

[cinder notch]

Hmmm

[tired gulch]

Additionally NMS already supports lots of people, and functions as a solo and multiplayer game

So if they use server tech they can probably split the load so it doesnt crash

[cinder notch]

as long as nobody is expecting a million people singing kumbaya together at the same time 😄

[sudden steeple]

At least they swim differently in the trailer

[remote glacier]

I just hope I can turn multiplayer off

[opaque citrus]

Ps3 game MAG from 2010 had 256vs256 players matches. 256 visible pepole would nice

[cinder notch]

agreed
if it scales, it scales 🤷🏼‍♂️

[tired gulch]

I don’t see why we couldn’t, but in the event we can’t it can’t be too hard to find your own peace of the world

Still is a massive planet probably after all

[brazen void]

Anything new yet?

[foggy geyser]

Light every fire

[cinder notch]

Maybe we’ll get a second trailer on the one year anniversary of the first trailer

[tidal jolt]

Hell yeah

[pulsar wagon]

Hopefully we'll be able to create alliances and start wars against others

[short beacon]

This guy gets it 🗣️🗣️

[short beacon]

light-yes-fire

[sand kindle]

When will LNF be out=

this year?

This Century?

[sterile furnace]

I can say with confidence it will be in the future

[patent furnace]

I feel confident it will this century We'll make sure to announce and pin any news in this channel, as well as the LNF Discord https://discord.gg/lightnofire

<t:1749929163:d> Edit: Discord Url was updated. No more dashes / old link no longer valid: https://discord.gg/light-no-fire

[zenith plank]

But what if it's in the past instead 😂

Only time travellers can play lol

[halcyon marsh]

What if Light No Fire was the fires we didn't light along the way 🥹

[crisp igloo]

Dark yes water

[short beacon]

Light maybe ash

[lunar girder]

Snuff Yes Water

[torpid onyx]

Heavy Negative Earth

[tired gulch]

Nah we gotta give Sean more time for it this time

2 centuries

Gotta be on the last of our lives passing on the legend to our children

Turning 100 grasping the shoulder of your child or grand child Play the game for me.

[cinder notch]

save us sean

[jaunty briar]

We gotta wait this time

We can't have another NMS disaster after all

[subtle glacier]

NMS would cost $500+ if you bought it from blizzard or EA.. we made out well for what we paid vs what we got in the end at least. One of the last dev groups that actually puts love into their games, not just another cosmetic shop with reskinned game addon.

[worldly crown]

if it came from Blizzard you could only get it on mobile

[dawn heart]

I want to be a sailor in this game. Get myself a big ship, maybe with crew. And open distant lands while fiahing and knowing nothing except fish. Someday I find my holy land and harvest a tree. There be my settlement, my kingdom. And I hope there would be visitors. One day I leave my home and never return. I would find solace in rocked harsh lands with grey earth. There I would create a temple. A temple of dead ash. There I lose my mind and sanity. Or maybe find a new god...

[cinder notch]

$18usd for me

[tired gulch]

I’m hoping we get submarines like subnautica

I really really want deep oceans

[subtle glacier]

lol nice 1

[cinder notch]

Seannnnnnnn

It’s time

[tired gulch]

We're making earth vs the dev team after

https://tenor.com/view/anxiety-spongebob-disaster-gif-19196614

[jade frigate]

Will there be cities and governments in lnf?

[void palm]

Did they show that in the first trailer?

[worldly crown]

and peasants!

[cinder notch]

Serfs

[strong plover]

Hey guys...just discover a few seconds ago this new game.

looks amaizing.

Do you know if will be release on gog like nms?

thanks in advance

[void palm]

All we know is what’s in the first trailer as well as some things from Steam

And no, we don’t know what platforms it will be on

[patent furnace]

I'd assume that eventually it'd release on all existing PC platforms as NMS is. But no one has any idea on timeframes for release. Just that it's a game HG's working on.

[grizzled anvil]

Imagine if Light No Fire had the entire world cooperate to reach space collectively and you get out and it's just no man's sky again

[quartz torrent]

will light no fire be actually a complete game or will they add stuff over the years just like in NMS?

[patent furnace]

Fair question. Only Hello Games knows.

[cinder notch]

only sean knows

all the work has been hypercompartmentalized and nobody has the full picture

ok this isn't true

but

SEAN are you listening?

[tired pumice]

Game comes out and Pilgrim Star Peep walks the world again, but it takes them 5 months

[shut wadi]

I wonder if we will be able to manipulate terrain still but with a pickaxe or something like that

[sterile furnace]

it should be with a hoe

[opaque citrus]

I bet there will be something like that. Question is will the terrain regenerate like in nms

[worldly crown]

the trailer shows magic castle building

[cinder notch]

this feels like that mythic quest episode

persistent environment changes etc.

[sand kindle]

Any new LNF info?

[sterile furnace]

we may get dragons

[lost prawn]

"here be dragons"

[shut wadi]

Imagine if not and the planet just ends upp all jacked up after a while 😂 might only stay altered if in range of a base

[sage ember]

What’s this channel for?

[jaunty briar]

Damn can't wait for this channel to actually be useful in 12 years

[gusty horizon]

literally

[sand wasp]

Uh, people have been talking about LNF already, you people can't scroll up?

[jaunty briar]

The game ain't out yet, correct?

No point of this channel existing otherwise.

Can't even post gameplay because the game is not out yet

[void palm]

Correct

[sand wasp]

People want to talk about it. If you don't, then don't post here. The concept isn't a difficult one.

[jaunty briar]

Geez why the attitude? I was just posting a joke.

[sand wasp]

No attitude, statement of facts

[jaunty briar]

Ok well

With all due respect

There's no need to be such a wet blanket

Sometimes facts don't need to be said

Especially given the context

[sand wasp]

With all due respect, followed by casual insults lol

Tone doesn't translate well in text. This channel is for LNF, let's be on that topic.

[void palm]

👀

[tropic patrol]

🔥

I lit a fire

[cinder notch]

maybe it will get sean's attention

[whole crow]

We also have a official discord which I believe is pinned here

Feel free to join

[waxen quartz]

Light no Fire competitor would be Valheim right?

[sand wasp]

Not sure, my guess is that it's going to be similar to NMS in that there won't be a true direct comparison to be made

[sterile furnace]

Valheim hinges a lot on the gameplay loop of -craft gear > fight biome boss > get new biome resource > craft gear > fight biome boss.

I somewhat doubt HG would take such approach. Specially for such a large and ambitious open world

[tropic patrol]

I think of LNF as NMS but only on one big fleshed out planet

[opaque citrus]

I wonder what end game will look like . NMS lacks in that aspect and i hope they improved on the formula for LNF

[remote glacier]

My concern with LNF gameplay wise is the combat

Being a fantasy setting, I feel like combat would be more important than with NMS. And melee is super easy to get wrong

[molten jay]

combat is definitely important and very simplistic in many survival games. but for me the most critical thing is probably just how much you actually get rewarded for exploration in this game. like is it just about "reaching a biom" so you can harvest it's resources. or are there hidden (unique) items in special places, npc's, dungeons, rare enemies, etc. not just climbing the mountain or diving the ocean for the sake of it but actually finding something worthwhile at the end of your trip.

and not being too limited in terms of multiplayer and actually being able to build a village with your friends/community.

a whole planet and then it's a wasteland because everyone's on a different server would be a shame.

[tired gulch]

Most of these things were shown in the trailer

[molten jay]

Like for example?

[sudden steeple]

Like no Fire

[molten jay]

💀

[sudden steeple]

Actually I agree with you, Light No Fire added value should come in my opinion from the community part with a huge number of players playing simultaneously on the same planet.

[strong umbra]

I feel like having a bow and arrow or crossbow is nesssary

or magic as well

[molten jay]

I just think it would be a waste if not so. Even if the whole community would play on the same server given the server has the size of earth. It would still be a wasteland. But at least you could meet some communities or smaller groups relatively frequently on your journeys

[molten jay]

That's been shown in the trailer

[strong umbra]

maybe witches and mage towers, warrior castles camps, pilgrims, villages villagers/ peasants and dragons

skeletal armour

[molten jay]

Dragons are also shown in the trailer

[strong umbra]

yes and im forming an idea of the dynamics involved

sailing could be cool like valhiem

imagine stormy seas and sea monsters

but also hummingbirds you can fly like your ship so idk

domesticating wolves

farms withclivstock

[heavy tinsel]

Just give me a tiny cat like dragon as a pet that sometimes will climb up and ride on my shoulder. 🥺

OMFG

We NEED flying broomsticks!

I'll live my happiest traveling witch life!

[molten jay]

Hahahahah not sure bout that but I am certain you could have a giant raven or owl to ride on

[heavy tinsel]

Aww....

😭

Just imagine roaming the planet on a broom, while a little black catlike dragon sits on the front.

[molten jay]

Well that would be peak

[heavy tinsel]

I just want a grimoire, broomstick, and witch attire. That's literally the only requirement I need to play this game on release or early access. If I can get those 3 things I will EMPTY my bank account completely for it.

[clever rapids]

I hope that light no fire has some sort of pirate esque ships you can get to sail the oceans

[molten jay]

👆

yea i think that there should be a quality system like with tools in other games where early small boats can not get your to another whole continent because they would sink midway through or it would at least be way harder because you also wouldn't have the storage for rations and repair material so you would have to find islands or such to stack up on resources while a big ship can just cruise through.

[sudden steeple]

Please give some real difficulty in this new game

[sand wasp]

No ty

[cinder notch]

please give some game

[heavy tinsel]

We're creating a community in the official LNF discord!

Like the NMS Galactic Hub

[heavy tinsel]

AAAAAA

[worldly crown]

Redwall!

[weary condor]

What is light no fire? I've heard of it, but I still don't know what it is

__

[patent furnace]

https://youtu.be/jKQem4Z6ioQ

Another game by Hello Games that's not focused on space exploration like NMS. You can see more info in this channel's pins.

This is one of the pins with a link to HG's site for it

[short yoke]

I hope they do a funny lil Easter egg in nms where you can see the planet lnf takes place on

[heavy tinsel]

XD, but have it JUST out of reach in the skybox of space, but still scannable

[weary condor]

That would be sick

[short yoke]

That’d be great

[long plover]

That would be very cool!

Maybe Sean will give us an expedition that ends on the LNF planet right before LNF launches!

[cinder notch]

i must admit this would be a total brainfuck
"travellers, it is time to embark on your final expedition"
👀

--kzzkt--

[sterile furnace]

hey that was my idea back in March!

[short yoke]

Peak

[cinder notch]

🤯

[short yoke]

If the nms universe had lnf in it what lore reason do you think we’d have for why we can’t visit it

I’m thinking there’s a law where you can’t interact with the development of intelligent life idk

[tired gulch]

I think mechanically it wouldn’t be able to visit it unless there was crazy cross play going on

But as a guess it would definitely be a reality warp

[worldly crown]

because I'd really just like a pure fantasy adventure game without the Atlass bullshit

its not a sci fi setting so how would you shoehorn in the simulation crap into LNF?

Cthulhu?

[modest patrol]

The fantasy version would just be saying that everything is in the dream of a God

[waxen quartz]

Would be awesome if the dragons could get really big

Like GoT dragons

[cinder notch]

goat dragons?
😄

[jaunty briar]

Damn AI makes the weirdest castles

Look at all those chimneys

[void palm]

It’s to let the smoke escape so that they can’t be burned in

[jaunty briar]

True but no castles have that many chimneys on one part of the building

Also a chimney at the top of the tower?

Really?

[sterile furnace]

Yes, we really like fireplaces

[opaque citrus]

🔥🔥 🔥🔥

[worldly crown]

that one chimeny could serve several fireplaces

[cinder notch]

chim chimmanee
chim chimmanee
chim chim charoo
i shan't light no fires
and neither should youuuu

[heavy tinsel]

WE DIDN'T START THE FIRE!
IT WAS ALWAYS BURNING SINCE THE WORLD'S BEEN TURNING!
WE DIDN'T START THE FIRE!
NO WE DIDN'T LIGHT IT BUT WE TRIED TO HIDE IT!

[molten jay]

Cinder the flame

[unique ruin]

Can always try to put it out, but nooooo

[heavy tinsel]

Oh no! The fire Marshal found it! Hide it someplace else!

[radiant stirrup]

fight no lire

[formal crown]

They should make it location based so that if you lived in the Bahamas then you spawn in the game roughly in the location of the Bahama's in real life.

[worldly crown]

not unless a VPN is used

[silk mirage]

Where is light ni fire going to drop

[slate jungle]

They have not released any new info recently
Hopefully we'll get some news around the holidays

[dusk hatch]

Any new fires lit?

[dusk hatch]

Why would they ever make the planet a 1:1 with earth? Earth is small.

[formal crown]

good point

[tired gulch]

Technically it could still be accurate as long as the base number for size would be Earth

If it’s exactly 20x Earth’s size, you would simply have a spawn region/continent for your hometown by that standard

For if it’s equal to size and not replicating a city

one must think outside the confines of 1:1

[worldly crown]

Earth is not small, it just only has small land mass

and humans tend to coagulate and clog

[cinder notch]

i'm coagulating right now

[molten jay]

earth is big enough for all active players

[karmic cargo]

thats why people think we are over populated we are just all in citys and towns exc

[dusk hatch]

It's almost like humanity can't survive in complete isolation.

Light more fires!

[molten jay]

Well also most of the other space is used for resources

But not the whole world population is gonna play LNF

It's gonna be a very small portion

That's definitely gonna fit on 1 map

[karmic cargo]

ya you wont have to worry about nabors

[cinder notch]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-nabors-what-gif-4584614817598272943

Only old people will get this

[slate jungle]

His old house by Diamond Head was 🤌

[slate jungle]

You could say I was Neighbors with Nabors

[cinder notch]

🥁

[round yoke]

I hope we will get other dimensions or something similar

Just like the different galaxies in nms

[molten jay]

Oh goth no

Why

[round yoke]

More content

Maybe other dimensions will have other colours

Would be cool to have a bit of variety there

[molten jay]

I think different bioms will have different colors lol

Or what someone said. We don't know there is only 1 regular sun.

There could be a blue star as well on the other side.

So time zones give you different colors.

[hardy bison]

Light no fire leaks 😱
||it will be a game
you can play it the day it comes out
it will have light and fire
it will not come out for nintendo 64
the game will have a price||

[sharp hollow]

😱

[halcyon marsh]

fake leak. It can't have fire. It's literally in the title

[astral quest]

spoiler, ||everyone immediately lights a fire||

[lucid kettle]

Dark yes Water

[slate jungle]

Sounds like "coffee"

[cinder notch]

Petition to rename the game “Not Coffee”

[vague nimbus]

!hype

[split meteor]

@vague nimbus Please use this command in #bot-spam.

[rapid mason]

Is this game ever cumming

Or is it like star scam

[crystal willow]

No, But itll certainly be coming when Hello Games decides that its ready for release

😆

[rapid mason]

https://tenor.com/view/sean-murray-datamosh-gif-26825503

[short beacon]

Fire

[mental gale]

🔥🔥

[short beacon]

what

[worldly crown]

star scam?

[teal harness]

will i be able to light a fire as opposed to what the name of the game says?

[cinder notch]

Only time will tell

[worldly crown]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-burn-it-beavis-fire-beavis-and-butt-head-lets-destroy-it-gif-8079047401231626912

[final narwhal]

Release the game dude

Also how many biomes will be in the game ?

[molten jay]

a lot i hope

considering its a whole planet

[final narwhal]

What size is the map ?

[molten jay]

the size of earth

[final narwhal]

Ok

[final narwhal]

I dont like waiting to be honest

And i dont even know when they gonna release it so its annoying

[cinder notch]

You should let them know

[sudden steeple]

I prefer waiting for a complete bugproof game and considering the history of HelloGames releasing a game incomplete at the time causing one of the biggest stir in game history, I am pretty sure they intend this time to deliver the game as perfect as possible and respecting scrupulously what was showcased. In my opinion, with this in consideration, you can expect one or several more years of development. I would say around two years.

[final narwhal]

They started 4 or 5 years ago i think it should be pretty much finished 2 years more sounds too much

[short beacon]

I mean it's a very small team and the game itself is very ambitous, not to mention they're constantly rolling out updates for no mans sky while working on light no fire.

[void palm]

So you prefer a broken, buggy and under promised mess (like nms was at launcj) over a good game and having some patience

[final narwhal]

There will always be glitches/bugs

In a game

[void palm]

I take it you haven’t heard too much about launch state nms

[final narwhal]

Doesnt change the fact that there will always be glitches in a game and at launch too it doesnt matter the time of development it always gonna have bugs and im not the type of guy who get upset for bugs at launch so it doesnt bother me

So i dont feel concerned about this , it will only Anger other peoples but thats their problem

[smoky sleet]

But if there is less bugs, that is ideal. Hence, the development time needed.

[cinder notch]

#light-on-fire

[modest patrol]

no dont

[dry gale]

yo you bacame a mod?

based tbh

[crystal willow]

this is when I became a proper mod, I was a trial mod for a bit before that - #server-announcements message

[dry gale]

still based

i was hoping you got the lvl 100 colour at some point

[crystal willow]

I got to the legend before getting moderator role 😎

[dry gale]

ahh i missed it

😭

[graceful slate]

Actually, earth is big enough to sustain 76 billion people

The problem is that we would have to terraform the entire planet and extinguish most natural niches

[graceful slate]

If that happened then that one Bahama guy would be the only player of its entire region

[molten jay]

I am talking solely about space

To not feel too crowded

[graceful slate]

Shucks I cannot send gifs

[molten jay]

Hehe

What I'm saying is all players could be on the same planet and potentially never see each other

But then the technology might only support 32 people on one place

So it's a bit confusing

[worldly crown]

thats basically 40k

Holy Terra was drained of its oceans and the whole surface was settled

[graceful slate]

Yeah it is not that far away from reality

[radiant stirrup]

I want to commit arson

[worldly crown]

if it's going to be a 1:1 for Earth in size, will it have actual 24 hour diurnal cycle?

[graceful slate]

Perhaps

[cinder notch]

maybe they'll recreate the 3 body problem

[worldly crown]

oh. you mean tides?

[graceful slate]

No way

I despise chaotic ages

I couldn’t bear 3 suns

I have just read half of the first volume to this day and I do not wanna hear spoilers pls

[cinder notch]

||there are THREE bodies||

[ionic zodiac]

yyeah
also
considering launch NMS, Hello Games is. very easily going to take a little while longer to avoid that clusterstarship from happening again

[tired gulch]

Nah go all in

gimme a beta

a single piece of dirt to stand on

so I can say

“I was here first. This is my dirt.”

And then have a cataclysmic void wipe out those discoveries

but it’s still my dirt though

[lavish sapphire]

I need a new game to play when is this coming

[final narwhal]

Someone knows if light no fire will have Guns like no man sky?

And will you able to build inside the ground like no man sky ?

[crystal willow]

nothing except for one trailer we have seen is known about the game

There were no guns in that trailer

[worldly crown]

I saw a sword in the trailer

[crisp vault]

There were swords and bows, so most likely just medieval-esque stuff, probably the closest thing to a gun will be a crossbow

[graceful slate]

It has been on development for 5 years already

[graceful slate]

It will be a weird experience to switch to multiple tools instead of having a single tool for everything

[graceful slate]

There might be magic which is honestly better

[crisp vault]

I play Minecraft, I’m used to it lol

[graceful slate]

I haven’t played minecraft in a while but I feel you

[tired gulch]

I really hope we spawn with the option of a crossbow

Or bow

I want to hunt in the woods for an adventuring guild xD

[final narwhal]

Magic would be cool to me but how you know? @graceful slate

And i hope they dont delete the fact that we can build underground like nms

[final narwhal]

No i hope it will release this year

Dont want wait more tbh

I need à new game to play light no fire satisfy me from what i saw but other games didnt satisified me

[neon whale]

You were satisfied with the trailer and can’t wait for LNF to be released, is that what you mean?

[final narwhal]

Ye kind of

[final narwhal]

So when you think it will be released?

[graceful slate]

Maybe the year after the next one

[final narwhal]

What!? Nah i hope not

@graceful slate

[graceful slate]

Yeah

What is probable is that they will delay it and make a better version of the finished one

[tawny junco]

there's definitely magic

we know this because there's multiple people with staves

and also the building is being built magically

[tawny junco]

i hope we spawn with nothing

because its survival

[shut wadi]

I hope literally nothing no multi tool type thing

Hope it's a real survival one where you have to craft items from collecting items

I'm happy with a trade market type system for selling resources and loot to buy stuff though

And some type of skill tree or level up system

[worldly crown]

harvest moon something

or some kind of farming line of missions

[tawny junco]

i hope so too but it most likely will be, espeically with the fact we have swords and bows but who knows

[noble cypress]

I wonder how "realistic" this will be compared to an actual planet, like if the animals are procedurally generated too save for like mounts and stuff, so like if certain continents/regions will have unique animals to them, or like if islands and stuff will have their own animals and whatnot

[final narwhal]

I have a question Can we tame animals or just mount them luna?

[noble cypress]

Uh, I don't know lmao

[final narwhal]

Lol

[noble cypress]

Hopefully both

[final narwhal]

Because i didnt saw that they spoke about taming i only saw mounts but i want taming to be part of the game too lol

[final narwhal]

Would you prefer that animals are procedurally générated or animals stuck in certain biomes ? @noble cypress

[final narwhal]

Bahahahha

[tawny junco]

?

[final narwhal]

I agree with the spawn with nothing but i dont want this to be fully survival like for example losing everything when someone die

I hâte fully survival games

@tawny junco

[tawny junco]

it might be like mc where it just drops at your feet, maybe like a gravestone system (mc mod)

[final narwhal]

What is mc minecraft ? I dont know how its like so i cant see what you mean i never played minecraft

[tawny junco]

You won't lose it, it'll just drop at your feet and be at the last place you died
I feel like they wouldnt just let it float there though
so maybe something to store it at your body like a gravestone or something

and yes it is minecraft

[final narwhal]

If the losing items appear just in front of us after dying its fine but i hâte games that makes you go all the way back where you died ,so i hope it will be like that ,do you have any informations about how it will work in light no fire ?

[tawny junco]

we have 0 information except that the world is procedurally generated

and that the world is bigger than earth supposedly

[final narwhal]

Lol too bad

I hope it will be différent at least

[cinder notch]

@sean do you have more details yet?

[smoky sleet]

Do you guys think there will be vr support?

[cinder notch]

i'm not sure there will be a game to support on any platform
🔥

[smoky sleet]

Oh no? Why not?

[cinder notch]

because the average human lifespan is only 75 years

[final narwhal]

Nah i dont need vr

[shut wadi]

I think they will maybe not at launch but I am expecting it

[worldly crown]

would be awesome if they ended up having 2 or 3 planets, like in the Phantasy Star series

or even just a moon or two to visit

[formal crown]

Based off of the trailer, the game appears to be medieval themed, so they probably wont add interplanetary travel for that reason, plus the game is already bigger than earth. However, the issue of the medieval theme might be solved if they make it so that you can eventually progress to sci-fi levels of technology or at least close.

[worldly crown]

that would not be a good thing as it would cause either imbalance between players or else late players would miss out on previous technology levels

like how I missed out on NMS having planets that move in orbits around stars

[sharp hollow]

I hope so

[void palm]

Doubtful
I don’t think people realize how big the earth really is…

[cinder notch]

Or how flat

[shut wadi]

Well it looks like there is magic so maybe you can teleport between planets at sone kind on magic ruin

[shut wadi]

It is big confirmed

[smoky sleet]

The visuals are sooo fidel

In the trailer

I thought the earth was endlessly huge

[quaint relic]

So as someone who hasn’t seen anything about LNF, tell me what it is, very succinctly

[worldly crown]

fantasy adventure game with a map at least as big as Earth

[quaint relic]

Is it like no man’s sky where it’s procedurally generated and everyone is playing on the same map at the same time?

[worldly crown]

i hope its not procgen

[quaint relic]

Well not entirely but I fail to see how you could make an in depth game world,the size of earth, if you also take into account the size of our ocean. Just a country would be a massive undertaking. A continent even more. All walkable terrain? Incomprehensible. The world?

[worldly crown]

Skyrim and Zelda don't have any trouble working on switch, and Starfox dinosaur planet introduced active background loading or whatever it was so there's never a render lag.

[crystal willow]

1. Switch wasn't mentioned

2. did you just compered map that's supposed to be as big as planet Earth to Skyrim map?

I dont see anyone handcrafting map of this size

[worldly crown]

or hogwarts, etc

[quaint relic]

His ass cannot comprehend the size of the planet.

[final narwhal]

I hope not i dont want them losing time on that

[worldly crown]

not what I meant.

[crystal willow]

then what you meant? games you mentioned have maps that cant be compered in any way to the size of a planet

[final narwhal]

LOL 😆

[worldly crown]

no, but they also don't have the kind of render lag that proc gen has. an entire map can be loaded while traveling across another

just overlap them

[crystal willow]

are you complaining about render lag in a game that has no release date yet?

[quaint relic]

I just wanted to know how big the world was gonna be and if it was gonna have all players on the same map. Like NMS but just on one very big world

[crystal willow]

AFAIK, its supposed to be one planet, we expcet there to be multiplayer, but really there isnt any good info, all we have is a steam page and one teaser

[cinder notch]

And rampant speculation

[opaque citrus]

Mp will probably work simliar to nms. With instances.

[worldly crown]

that's what I'm afraid of

[sleek inlet]

Anyone knows when Light No Fire is releasing?

[crystal willow]

Nope, no release date

Next year, decade or month

Month is unlikely tho

[sleek inlet]

Bloopers

Thnx, the game looks cool

[tired gulch]

That would be cursed if it did come out instead of a No Man's Sky update

[ocean flicker]

I'm not getting any younger. Hopefully, it'll release soon as possible.

[dry gale]

Knowing Sean he's probably got a trick or two up his sleeve to make it possible

[dreamy lake]

is there a role to be notified about pre orders for the game? me and my gf are very eagerly waiting to play this game and i love to be notified so i can buy the game for us both

[safe brook]

god lnf looks so cool

I CAN BE AN ANIMAL PERSON

please

[smoky sleet]

I’m excited to be a bunny

[gritty cliff]

Gonna be a bunch Elins(Tera) erping around the settlements.

[final narwhal]

Release the game dude

Waiting for no reason tbh it should have been enough time

Of development

[final narwhal]

What do you mean about instances ?

[opaque citrus]

Like server rooms each for X amount of pepeole.

32 im case of PC nms.

[void palm]

They won’t release it until they’re absolutely ready, they wouldn’t want another nms catastrophe

[safe fox]

Would also be nice to have the ability to invite players to your room (if there is available slots) based on some random generation passkey thing. Six digits is more than enough if we use letters and numbers. Add in the ability to change your room to a random room. That can also be useful in preventing bullying. Two randoms shouldn’t lead to the same place right?

I love theorizing about possibilities

[safe fox]

Soon this channel will be a catagory of channels. Or maybe it will end up a different server that is linked to in this one

I am SO looking forward to LNF. Also whats up with Hello Games having 'no' in their titles lol

[void palm]

!lnflink

[split meteor]

https://discord.gg/light-no-fire

[void palm]

@safe fox guess what!

[sudden steeple]

It will be procedurally generated, but with a tremendous effort put on "realism in a fantastic settings" and handcrafted POI I guess

[cinder notch]

poi is a very weird food to put in a video game

[sudden steeple]

Point of Interest 😄

[final narwhal]

Why they dont say anything about light no fire ?

[opaque citrus]

Bc the experiance with nms.

[safe fox]

Light No FIre Theory:
In |Alone| it is mentioned that the creator leaves the planet and ATLAS stays behind due to being replaced. LNF is totally a simulation run by an advanced ship AI with a bunch of cryopod people.

Until Light No Fire's lore or offical posts by the devs say otherwise, this is gonna be my headcanon :D

[wooden stirrup]

When is this game out?

[cinder notch]

Roughly one month after everyone gives up waiting for it

[opaque citrus]

Somewhere between now and 16min atlas time.

[final narwhal]

It doesnt work that way what an attitude @cinder notch

[plain mountain]

Is the Dec release date legit?

[pine breach]

Not sure where you heard that from, but this channel would be blowing up if it was

[void palm]

Doubt it, who did you hear it from?

[opaque citrus]

Only legit date is TGA date where there is a CHANCE for any LNF info.

[velvet nexus]

I do hope LNF is like NMS in that it has hybrid pancake/VR play modes 🙂

[proper onyx]

I hope that VR mode has left-handed support

[sharp hollow]

I just hope there is VR at all

[opaque citrus]

I bet vr will come to lnf. Simliar to nms . If not day one, then with later updates

[shell fjord]

Really enjoying the expedition content of NMS, and hope they introduce similar things into LNF - hoping they open an official discord server for it, so the community can have Q&A etc

[void palm]

This server is the official nms server (linked on hg’s website)
Likely will be something similar with lnf

!lnflink

[split meteor]

https://discord.gg/light-no-fire

[open bay]

Is the game even real still?

[void palm]

Why wouldn’t it be?

[frail jetty]

no it's just a figment of your imagination

[opaque citrus]

That trailer was just part of the simulation

[cinder notch]

kzkkt

[cinder notch]

16 16 16 16

[opaque citrus]

//kzzzztktk//tktkkktk//kzzzzzt//

[crystal willow]

The Cursed article on No Man's Sky website had LNF Trailer at the end
The most recent article had that too

What are they cooking

[void palm]

Hear me out!

And the pulsing light at the bottom could be where the hand comes from

[crystal willow]

meh, To me feels like LNF Logo and NMS logo Look similar bc they are made by the same people, they kept the aesthetic, but that red orb feels like something different
I use feels like bc tbh we have nothing and its the vibe I get I also would rather that NMS and LNF stay unrelated. If HG went from Sci-Fi to Fantasy, bc they wanting to do something different, something fresh, then they might keep those two unrelated

[void palm]

It’s been doing that thing at the end of the trailers since the first trailer too apparently

[worldly crown]

if Atlas is going to be in the game I'm not interested

[opaque citrus]

Sees some random npc named atlas*
Alt+f4

[slate jungle]

Yeah I noticed that, and how they linked the steam wishlist too

[silk oxide]

So

light no fire is going to be a one planet game

considering how top notch hello games' procedural generation algorithm, if they decide to make a radiant world filled with generated yet high quality quests, generated villages or even castles

they might make an end all be all game and that scares me, lol

[safe brook]

not too sure it could be an end-all-be-all in general, cause inevitably some people just don't like fantasy / medieval settings or don't care for sandbox games. for me personally though, i think you might be right, lol

[shut wadi]

Do you think we can re roll the planets procedural map or will it be fixed the same for everyone

[wary stag]

Will The light no fire also be a sand box like no man sky ?

[pine breach]

It sounds like there’s more survival and mmo elements but yeah

[shut wadi]

I can't wait to travel the world with a trusty stead and a tent

I wonder if terrors will come out on the night time

I wonder if we can build anywhere or if we will need something similar to the base computer

Can imagine a load of random half build stuff all over the place

I hope we can jump off the flying mounts mod air then use the hang glider

Or skydive then the mount catches us like on avatar

[open widget]

I'm hoping that we all play on the same planet. It's supposed to be roughly the size of earth 24,000 sq km. Would be nice to have guilds/clans and player cities and economy ect, I.E. players in the desert biome would need to trade materials with players in the winter biome for crafts and what not to make particular items.

[open temple]

ugh, i'm hoping that we get a release date soon. i don't even care if it's still 2 years out, i just want to have a date. this radio silence is killing my excitement

[crisp vault]

I’m hoping for MacOS compatibility, it took about 7 years for NMS to have MacOS compatibility; I really don’t want to wait that long to play the game and be forced to enjoy it vicariously through people like I have to with so many other games I can’t play 😭

[sharp hollow]

ooh yes please

in vr that'd be sick

[hardy frost]

dragon

[bleak temple]

I think in light no fire it would be cool if we could elect leaders

[void palm]

I’d give it 5 hours before someone tries a coup because they’re unhappy

[bleak temple]

Ye probably

[eternal dragon]

im curious. will this really be a mmo? because i honestly feel like 1 planet wouldnt be nearly enough for an entire playerbase. im sure there’ll be like servers or something…idk

(i only now got around to watching the trailer lmao. it looks really good though, as far as graphics and gameplay)

[crystal willow]

Nah, I don't see it as mmo, the trailer, the only trailer we got shows a group of players in multiplayer so there might be some Improvements In this department but game is listed on steam as adventure and nothing about mmo

Not to mention that it really isn't something HG does

Some people wish to see more multiplayer mechanics, but IMO the MMO elements aren't going to happen

Player based market, guilds, clans, bases owned by multiple players etc would require there to be one difficulty setting for atleast most people or every preset had to be separated not to mention potential griefing

[eternal dragon]

yeah the griefing was my main concern

in any case im glad thats unlikely

i feel like theyd be biting off more than they can chew too

therell probably be a multiplayer hub like the anomaly, and a lore explanation involving parallel dimensions or something

[crystal willow]

I played NMS for some time now, I had a multiplayer phase, it's good that the game can be shared with others but it's also good thats its predominantly singleplayer expirence

I wouldn't like it if light no fire became mainly multiplayer game

[eternal dragon]

yeah not saying it would be. just like a place for players to meet up, yknow? though, i feel like they are kinda hinting at it being predominantly multiplayer. but it will definitely have singleplayer as well due to ps+ anyways.

probably will have a lot of singleplayer though

like, obviously the story will be singleplayer

but its also possible theyre just showing off multiplayer as a huge ass apology for their promises at no mans sky’s initial launch

like “okay we messed up big time, but we promise it wont happen again, and heres proof”

[void palm]

In the case of planet size

It’s an earth size planet, likely with a lot more land than earth has. And there’s part of earth that are still unexplored thousands of years later

[dusk hatch]

I think you're going to be surprised. I suspect HG has finally found out how to properly work into the world a weather system with multiple biomes and they'll be introducing multiple biomes to NMS just before LNF goes live

Multiple biomes means they can make a world that has multiple worlds on it by virtue of the changing environments at different regions

and there's nothing stopping them from having dimensions in the same world to spice things up

They've probably already finished most of the world generation and just need to make sure it's not full of bugs while putting out builds for RP purposes and lore

[silk oxide]

i think the most important part are structures and civilization generation

[dusk hatch]

lol@civilization

[silk oxide]

i've never seen a game dev progressively generate random cities, tribes, ruins

oh wait, there is minecraft, but that's like the simplest form of it

and they are built from prefabs

would love to see it in more hi def games

[final narwhal]

Why you want it to be multiplayer ? And idk why you kind of agree with the guy then you say i would like the game to be multiplayer you make no sense @eternal dragon

[eternal dragon]

its called…participating in a discussion? i never said I wanted it to be multiplayer. i said thats what hello games is hinting at. the only shown footage is of multiplayer and it kinda seems like that type of game

lmao

😭

[tardy frigate]

imagine if light no fires launch is as chaotic as no mans sky was at its launch, then it takes a decade to become a full fledged game. im sure hello games have learned a lot after no mans sky, but there is that small worry for light no fire. (not in a serious way, more jokingly XD)

[crystal willow]

No matter in what state LNF launches, if it follows the same pattern as NMS then in a year or two it'll look like a Completely different game

Hopefully it launches in a decent state, but we will most likely see more development after launch

[tardy frigate]

It would be fun though to see how the internet would react to another "no mans sky launch" XD

[crystal willow]

Sean launching LNF too early and in bad state just to pull off NMS again

[tardy frigate]

Bigest troll developer of the year award right there😆

[final narwhal]

You just said to the other guy "Ye not saying it would be. Just like a place for players to meet up you know?" This sentence sounds like someone wanting the game to be multiplayer

[eternal dragon]

i mean its been in development for over 5y lol

honestly i trust hg. they learned from their mistakes. it looks really good in the trailer. multiplayer also seems really smooth.

[slate jungle]

I suspect that is why they have been so tight lipped.
So I'm content to wait for a more polished product

[sudden steeple]

It is roughly enough for the IRL player base so far

[void palm]

70% of earth is water
I doubt even close to 50% of LNF planet will be water
8 billion people fit on earth
Some parts of earth are unexplored still
There is no way the lnf player base is close to eight billion people

It will be big enough

[sudden steeple]

And settling on water could be a possibility in LNF making 100% coverage a possiblity

Glad there is still LNF among ambitious game with stunning Graphics not using Unreal Engine. They are the rarest.

[empty jewel]

Is there any new information about the release of the game?

[crystal willow]

Nope

But, in the articles for last 2 expeditions (the cursed and currect redux of expedition 2) they included LNF trailer at the end

Which makes me think they are cooking something

[empty jewel]

okay, thanks for the info, it remains exciting, I'm really looking forward to it being half as good as no man's sky

[torpid sorrel]

Is it likely that they will announce something about LNF at the game awards?

[fierce dune]

If it's Light no Fire. Than why're there so many fires lit by men?

[modest patrol]

In a no mans sky, the man light fires on ground

[errant harness]

Launch it in a bad state and release a huge hot fix that fixes all the problems the next day to scare everyone

[long tendon]

has there been any news about this game recently? i am not rushing i am just too lazy to wade through google muck'