nms-multitools

[mint wing]

Multitools types and weapons have diffeent scaling between eachother also base stats mater so they are not compareable much. U would need same mt type and same weapon and modules but still end ressoult will be diffrent bc mt base stats. Dmg potential stat is only indicative

[ornate vortex]

how do you get staffs? and are they good?

[heady pond]

Need to progress the Secondary quest called they who returned

You can type !faq-echoes in #nms-commands for info on requirements and how to trigger

The quest line will introduce you to a new faction and how to assemble and attain staff components, amongst other things.

[wide bone]

I do t have that question I don’t think

[heady pond]

Can run the faq command to view prerequisites to start the quest

[wide bone]

What’s the command?

[heady pond]

^ ‘!faq-echoes‘

Run it in #nms-commands

[wide bone]

Since when can you get NMS on switch?

I have a switch and have never seen it

[heady pond]

Since the the 4.0 (waypoint) update where it was introduced to the switch.

Would have been October 2022

[wide bone]

I’ve had my switch for years and have never seen it (last time I checked was this past may)

[heady pond]

Must have missed it lol, it’s been out for years, well late 2022

[tough hill]

There were even physical copies of the game too

[heady pond]

Still is

[crude scaffold]

What’s the significance of not reloading? Also how do you even reload

[heady pond]

This is due to something called a system pool, each system has a number of “pools" that contain different multitools.

If you save and reload on each of the different planets and station, rechecking cabinets after each reload, you'll see diffrent tools.

Note that reloading on the same planet multiple times isnt going to result in different tools on the same cabinet.

[ornate vortex]

Whats the best multitool for damage a sentinel rifle?

[heady pond]

Both Staves and sentinel mts are shared for there damage range.

Please note the stat difference is minor making these negligible, favour your personal preference first.

[ornate vortex]

what sentinel is best pistol or rifle?

[heady pond]

Doesn’t matter, they are identical functionality wise

[ornate vortex]

what do you think looks better?

[heady pond]

Rifle is my favourite, pistol looks like a brick with a pole

[ornate vortex]

What is the best multitool and supercharge layout for a high damage but not abysmal everything else?

[tough hill]

Depends on the weapon, most prefer 2x2 for the weapon, but neutron cannon prefer a hollowed out cross

[ornate vortex]

does the neutron cannon also work with square or is it much worse?

[tough hill]

Failing that, a p shape (a 2x2 but one corner shifted one spot)

[tough hill]

It's not ideal, neutron cannon prefers adjacency bonus over SC slot

[ornate vortex]

so is P the best? for a one that can do both?

like if you want to swap weapons its still ok

[tough hill]

Yeah, P is probably best of both worlds

[ornate vortex]

and sentinel multi?

[tough hill]

That's for any MT

[ornate vortex]

but for more buffs?

[tough hill]

Sentinel is actually less affected by sharing SC slots than other tools barring Atlantid since it has hijacked laser, not mining beam, so you can install a mining beam on top of it to increase its mining speed further, without needing to SC any of the laser upgrades

[ornate vortex]

i want to get good damage

idrc about mining speed

[tough hill]

Then your SC slots should all be for weapons

Or rather, weapon

[ornate vortex]

so the best layout is P

[tough hill]

The most flexible is p, but it's not ideal for weapons that prefer 2x2 of for Neutron cannon

If you find a P, id use that, if not, I'd pick a favourite weapon and get a tool to go with that weapon, i.e. if you like Neutron cannon, go for hollow cross, if not, 2x2

[ornate vortex]

i like the pulse spitter i am working on a sub machine gun build but is the neutron cannon better?

i was gonna make a build with fast pulse spitter then slow high damage cannon

[tough hill]

I prefer neutron cannon because of its AoE projectiles, which hits things coming out of the ground, pulse spitter can't do that

[ornate vortex]

yeah i was gonna do a good pulse spitter and a second neutron cannon for strong enemies

[tough hill]

I personally only use neutron cannon, I don't have enough hotkeys to add a 4th MT onto it

[ornate vortex]

these good?

[tough hill]

Looks good to me

[ornate vortex]

is there a good way to make multitools fire rate faster ik theres weapon upgrades but they barely upgrade

[tough hill]

Fire rate of any weapon is tied to their specific upgrades, there are no weapon wide upgrades

[ornate vortex]

there are

[tough hill]

Neutron cannon's fire rate is done via faster charging

[ornate vortex]

whats this?

[tough hill]

This applies only to boltcaster

[ornate vortex]

it does

[tough hill]

It doesn't affect any other weapons

[ornate vortex]

oh

[mighty monolith]

yup, what chippy said. To reload, land on a planet ( or space station ), get out of your ship, reload the restore point of your game, then when the game has reloaded, all the multitools in any location you check will be drawn from the pool of tools attached to the planet you reloaded on. So if you find an S class cabinet somewhere, mark it. chances are it will have a piece of junk tool in it, but if you reload all the planets in the system, one or more might spawn something decent. When you arrive in a system via warp or teleport, you are looking at the " default " pool of tools, also called the system pool, which is the pool attached to the space station. it will stay this pool until you reload on a planet. so to change it back to the station pool, reload on the station, or freighter, or anomaly also works off memory.

[north grotto]

no it applies to everything thats why its so powerful

[tough hill]

It does not

[north grotto]

does

i checked the code

[drifting needle]

No it doesn't.

Please do not spread misinformation

[crude scaffold]

I didnt know that, ty!

[mighty monolith]

ya welcome 🙂

[crude scaffold]

what do these coordintes mean

[tough hill]

That's the coords of the location of the MT on the planet

It's basically the longitude and latitude

[crude scaffold]

ohh right

OHH

i see, so i go to the named planet in the named galaxy and find the coords

[tough hill]

Yes

[crude scaffold]

i had no idea there were multiple galaxies before now 😭

that's kinda crazy

[mighty monolith]

Latitude and longitude of the location of tbe settlement the multitool is at. You can see them on your ships display in 1st person , and using your visor on foot , and on screen in your exocraft

[mighty monolith]

get to the galaxy u need first, then find a portal on any planet, dial the address of the planet u are trying to reach, then fly to the coords of the settlement

[crude scaffold]

can the space station portal work too?

[mighty monolith]

no, thats a teleporter , thats a different to a portal

teleporter is used to travel to and from places u have been to, bases, other space stations.

every planet has a portal, and u need to find one, then u use it to dial the glyph address of the planet u are trying to get to

[crude scaffold]

oh

must be a new mechanic im unfamiliar with

[mighty monolith]

u learn about portals playing thru the main story line and learn the glyphs to dial worlds

[tough hill]

If you ever saw Stargate, it's basically that

[quartz void]

I found this one. Is this good?

[tough hill]

It's middling (not great 2 starting SC slot), could be better if the other 2 SC slots (on 4th row) are close to the 2 if you can see

PS are you using a CRT?

[quartz void]

Crt?

[digital prism]

Woohoo got my multitool to 164k damage

[quartz void]

How lol

[tough hill]

Cathode Ray Tube monitor, I thought the scan lines in your photo came from that type of display

[full plaza]

is this the best i can do to get the most out of the adjacency boosts?

[tough hill]

Swap the optical drill and the S rank to the left of it

and that's about it, although you can fit 3 more S or X rank boltcaster upgrades to boost it further

Oh, and move the terraine manip to somewhere else and put mining laser down below where optical drill would be

I would also install the 2 scanner blue print upgrades and put them, along with the scanner upgrades in the space between blaze javelin and mining laser, and put the personal forcefield and the 2 visors in the line above the lasers (where your scanner is currently)

[jade plank]

Is light blue the lightest color for the radiant heart? (The crystals themselves) thxs

[full plaza]

like this?

[tough hill]

The optical drill should be above where your mining laser is now

[full plaza]

(oh andi moved the boltcaster to the right corner of the L shape there)

[full plaza]

like this?

[tough hill]

I personally would put the scanner techs all in the spaces where your visors, forcefield, cloak, fishing and terraine manip is so they dont' collide with the mining laser techs, then place the advanced mining laser two spaces above the mining laser (so optical drill is supported by 4 techs)

[full plaza]

yeah but that middle slot of the S class scanner lineup is SC

thats why i put it there

[tough hill]

that's rather awkward

[full plaza]

yeah

thats why i unlocked that one slot at the bottom to avoid having to place items to the top where the scanners are

[tough hill]

in that case, I would probably unlock both slots to either side of the mining laser, and pull the advanced mining laser and that S rank laser upgrade down

For the record, you don't have blaze javeline itself installed

[full plaza]

yeahhh if only i had the materials for that 😭

[full plaza]

should i be having it on this one?

i have another A class sentinal MT that i use for weaponry (which has most of the weapons installed)

[tough hill]

Considering you have the blaze javeline upgrades installed on the right side, I assumed you wanted to use Blaze Javelines

[full plaza]

OHH

wait

[tough hill]

Personally, if you already have an MT that carries all your weapons, I would not carry any weapons on that MT

[full plaza]

the other one doesnt have the blaze javelin, and already has ? upgrades, thats why i put them on this one

[full plaza]

uhhh ngl im not sure why i installed those now knowing those are weapon upgrades XD

my weapon MT btw (in case you wanna give some advice for this one)

(bottom left SC, and the one with the S class boltcaster upgrade SC)

alr i edited the setup a bit and removed unnecessary tools

[north grotto]

i just tested with pulse splitter vs boltcaster and it buffed both

[drifting needle]

Well it does not, this has been known for years

I just tested this, they do not improve non-Boltcaster damage

neither in listed numbers or damage number tests against both fauna and static objects

[tough hill]

Just made a recording on this test, sentinel techs don't affect pulse spitter at the very least:

https://youtu.be/Jb5jnjGI87s?si=oGGwZN8kdKV9Yy0V

A pulse spitter with no upgrades installed took about 5 and a half seconds to unload the full magazine.

I then installed the Sentinel techs into the SC slots, each have approximately 50% increased firerate, and with adjacency bonus, if they affected pulse spitter, it would confer at least 150% extra fire rate, so pulse spitter should empty its magazine in a noticeably shorter time (3 seconds or so less). It did not, it was the same 5 and a half second.

For science, I replaced the Sentinel MT upgrades with that for Pulse Spitters in the same SC slots, and each confer both a magazine capacity and fire rate mods. It took under 3 seconds for pulse spitter to empty its magazine, despite having a larger magazine, showing that pulse spitter upgrades affect pulse spitter.

This was done on a non-modded game

[plush sierra]

anyone have coords to a planet for a grey staff and green crytal color combo?

[shy quiver]

Hows my multitool?

[tough hill]

You should max out bolt caster upgrades and pulse spitter upgrades

And if you want to use both pulse spitter and bolt caster, I recommend giving the super charged slot to the right of your bolt caster to pulse spitter, and shift the boltcaster upgrades to the left of bolt caster

And replace your damaged laser upgrade with an rank, and add an optical drill uograde

[shy quiver]

Oh! I mainly posted this as a joke i put the upgrades back on i just thought it was funny how it showed as the fishing pole! But ty lol

[tough hill]

Ah opps

You successfully fished me

[shy quiver]

Lol

[shrewd quarry]

Posting this here in case I need to find it again in the future because I'm lazy 😁 The 2x2 experimental rifle I use for super scanning of fauna with nectar islands

[tough hill]

Dang!

[neat pike]

Now we're talkin

[calm flax]

Experimental MT - Space Station Cabinets - front and back. They are A Class. Screenshots show SC slots when tech slots expanded and tools upgraded to S.

[serene flame]

Between staffs, pistols and rifles are there any difference or is it just aesthetic?

[knotty flax]

You discovered this?

[serene flame]

Oh damn

Ig staff and sentinel it is

Royal is gorgeous

[quasi plume]

Guys how can I Farm Multi Tool Expansion Slot Upgrade Units?

[shy quiver]

You ok with glitches?

[shy quiver]

What quests do you get the staffs from?

[quasi plume]

Not really if there is normal/legit ways then i would like to try them first.

[shy quiver]

Then in that case, crashed freighters and harmonic camps are the best ways i know

[quasi plume]

Ok thx

[fallow bronze]

Im pretty sure that this was in this discord channel bc I have the same photo that I found on here

[ionic shard]

I wonder if there is rebekkas shotgun (endgerunners)

Is this experimental?

[severe frigate]

should I?

[ionic shard]

Go for it

195k for an S class worth it anyways

[severe frigate]

ty

[sharp fulcrum]

look at the dmg potential drop

[ionic shard]

But it doesnt even have weapon installed

And scanner radius is higher even withput upgrades

Also more slots

[sharp fulcrum]

ture

[ionic shard]

Its just much more better

[sharp fulcrum]

true*

[ionic shard]

Oh, wait, it does

Still much better than first multitool

[shrewd quarry]

I searched for quite a while and couldnt find it in this discord, I found it on the nms coord exchange discord

Feel free to find it yourself here if you still think thats true though.

[shrewd quarry]

Autophage

[shrewd quarry]

I'm a fan of maxing out the mercenary guild rep and travelling to systems with that guild rep and getting them. Also expeditions arent a bad way of getting free mt slots depending on the exped

[knotty flax]

No

It's a terrible multi tool tbh

Even if you upgrade it and the slots are good, it's one of the worst types still

@shrewd quarry so if I post lots of multi tools that I didn't discover, because its a 4 square or whatnot, it's not frowned upon?

I mean, I could literally post a ton with great slots

There's tons and tons online

[boreal knot]

If you want a good multi tool early you should go to a dissonant system

Then go to a planet with "dissonance detected"

Then fly around or use your scanner to find dissonance resonators

They can have 2 things: inverted mirrors and echo locators

[knotty flax]

Or just turn the cost off in your options temporarily, buy the multi tool, then switch your options back.

[boreal knot]

Ain't that just cheating

[knotty flax]

No lol

How's it cheating? It's an option in the options menu

You don't get cheats in options menus for games bro

[boreal knot]

well thats like turning on creative mode in minecraft to give yourself 64 diamonds

anyway

[knotty flax]

I don't know about Minecraft, I don't play it. All I know is, it's not cheating if it's in the options menu

If its something that hello games did not intend, then it's cheating

[boreal knot]

i see

anyway

[boreal knot]

you need an echo locater to find an harmonic camp

there you can find a sentinal multi tool

when you put a mining beam and advanced mining beam on one of those it will basically never overheat

[knotty flax]

@boreal knot can't you put all of your info (that nobody asked for) into one comment so it doesn't take up all that space?

[shrewd quarry]

Why would anyone give you crap for posting a multitool in a channel callled multitool?

[boreal knot]

it will still take up a lot of space

[shrewd quarry]

I posted it for myself to search for in the future, I don't really care what people think about it or if other people post tools

[knotty flax]

Well if you found them yourself then I wouldn't expect any, but wheres the specialty in posting someone else's finds? For that I would expect something

There's nothing apecial in posting other people's finds. I'm pretty sure it's better to just post your own tbh

[shrewd quarry]

Why does who found it matter?

I didn't say there was anything special, you sound awfully judgemental

[boreal knot]

fr

[shrewd quarry]

Mind your own business if you dont like my posts

[knotty flax]

It's not judgemental, and I didn't even get to explain myself before you got a bad attitude and insulted me a little.

Things not going well for you at home? I'll just leave it before you resort to more insults

Kids these days 🤦‍♂️

[boreal knot]

Shut up

[knotty flax]

I did, like ages ago. Settle down

[mighty monolith]

Yup, that is an experiemtnal pistol

[knotty flax]

Gold staff, decent slots

[ionic shard]

I wonder if anyone here found a multitool that looks like rebeccas shotgun

Sadly my internet is slow (im using vpn) and it takes me from 30 secs to 3 mins to load A SINGLE image

So its impossible for me to search

[ionic shard]

My friend made a layout...

Rate how awful it is from 1 to 10

[tough hill]

10 being the most awful?

Id rate it 8, I don't think it's done deliberately, given that a few did actually get adjacency bonus which is acceptable, you should be getting a few random adjacency bonuses.

[ionic shard]

Yeah

[fallow bronze]

Easy 9.5

[tawdry siren]

11

[ionic shard]

Lol

[tawdry siren]

Too many weapons, not enough adjacency

Pick n use one weapon

[tawdry siren]

Id take that in a heartbeat over what you have, but i would also look at getting something better down the line.

As a multitool for start to mid game its worth it for the extra slots as it is. Rifles usually have better damage stats than pistols.

[severe frigate]

already using it, but ty for advice

[tawdry siren]

Yer i figured, just seemed alot of different opinions after your question, so though id add my two pence worth.

[knotty flax]

I've definitely seen ones that have those same colours

[harsh junco]

Is 2 pence == 2 cents?

[ionic shard]

In this channel?

[knotty flax]

Well you never know. People literally post anything in here, whether it's good or bad.

For some reason it seems socially acceptable to do so. So, you'll probably find it somewhere in here

[ionic shard]

I wont

It takes me whole minute just to load 1 image

[knotty flax]

Bless ya. Well, if I find one I'll let you know 👍

[ionic shard]

Thanks

Same to you

[celest pumice]

How good is this for a maxed multitool?

[tough hill]

The SC slot layout is far more important than the stats

[celest pumice]

Well, SC slot layout will affect stats, wont it? Was just wondering about the stats

and its 2 singles and a double, because i really wanted that specific color layout, so couldnt really roll for a good sc layout

[tough hill]

It will, but the numbers gets lost, since it really depends on the exact weapon you are using as well as your techs

[celest pumice]

Just using boltcaster

Absolutely melts everything, goddanmed machinegun

[tough hill]

Your sentinel weapon mods should be placed right beside the bolt caster mods

And I would probably switch the Boltcaster's position with the mod below it

Possibly moving the sensor block away from the bolt casters, and place the column of sentinel upgrades to the left of the bolt casters

aside from that, that staff is quite usable

[celest pumice]

This did quite a lot

[tough hill]

move the C upgrade below the X up to where your combat visor is, and should be done

[celest pumice]

Yea i did, but somehow it lowered the damage potential?

Got it a lil bit higher by moving the tech

[tough hill]

Try swapping the weapon with the tech above it

If it is still lower damage, then move it bac, and try swapping the sentinel upgrade to the left of the bolcaster

[analog nymph]

Found this pretty cool looking Atlantid(?) Multi-tool on a Spined Planet

[knotty flax]

Anomoly find

[soft quartz]

What items to craft that staff?

That looks peak

My current multitool is horrible

[neat pike]

Neutron Cannon alone is versatile enough imo, maybe add something like pulse spitter but apart than that just secondaries, essential stuff and fishing rig/harmonic thingy and that kinda stuff

[tawdry siren]

Personally, i just use pulse splitter for weapon

[celest pumice]

I don’t quite remember, but I think you need to increase your autophage standing, collect void motes to then buy the parts from the staff assembly shop thingy, and then travel from assembly to assembly station to generate the color you want

[magic sundial]

Anyone know where I could get a blue atlantid with a black hole?

[heady pond]

Blue Atlantid multitools won’t spawn with this feature, the closest you would be able to get is a glossy black orb.

[ionic shard]

What multitool would you recommend?

(Experimental pistol)

(I want 3+1)

[ionic shard]

(Asking that just because i dont have access to images on dc and i can watch videos on yt only in 240p)

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[knotty flax]

For mining I would take this one. Its the best slot formation for mining and the best type of multi tool for mining. For damage you want a staff or a sentinel multi tool, and for all rounders you want a royal or experimental I'd say.

[knotty flax]

This is also a decent multi tool for all round stuff

[magic sundial]

Dang really? Wonder why theres no black hole + blue guns

[crude scaffold]

dialed that in and it dropped me somewhere random is that normal 😭

[knotty flax]

You have to do it from a euclid portal, and you probably need access to purple systems, so if you don't meet those conditions it will put you somewhere else

[crude scaffold]

ohh makes sense

im in euclid but never been to a purple system

what does access to a purple system entail? i can jump to them just fine?

[tawdry siren]

No, there is a questline after completing main quest to unlock them

[soft quartz]

I’m at max standing

[crude scaffold]

do i need to reset the atlas for it? i opted out of doing that

[knotty flax]

Nah, you just need to finish the whole quest line

[mighty monolith]

I go on looks , so anything with crystals, horns, or plasma tubes

[knotty flax]

Two experimental pistols in this spacestation

[ionic shard]

I need scanning

[ionic shard]

Also thats my discord

[ionic shard]

And i know that

[knotty flax]

That is the best multi tool type for scanning, aswell as the royal multi tools. This pistol will be good

[tough hill]

FYI, the scanning stat seem to do a lot less than it appear: it doesn't affect things that you would REALLY want an increased scanning area, like hotspot finding

[ionic shard]

Really?

That sucks

[tough hill]

Yep, my atlantid tool and my experimental has a dramatic difference in scanning range, they both detect hotspots at around the same distance

(And yes, it does suck)

[magic sundial]

Rate my multitools
-# granted the atlas scepter is just an expedition reward

[tough hill]

The Mining mods on the Atlas sceptre should be in a clump like you have for your scanner on your experimental tool, and not in a line.

Also your autophase scanner on your experimental tool should be touching one of the scanner bonus upgrades (preferably above the middle scanner of your middle row, which should be whichever mod has the best stats), it's not doing a lot being adjacent to the scanning Blueprint

The models on your Atlantid tools look mighty fine but SC layout is probably more important, I'd upgrade those to S to see where the SC slots lie

[plush sierra]

anyone have coords to a planet with this exact color scheme except with a green crystal?

[thorny summit]

Hi i need Help for a s-class stab

[knotty flax]

Generally, most multi tools are useable for anything. If results seem similar between tools, what would make me feel good is knowing I got the right tool according to its stats on the charts you can find.

#nms-multitools message

So you can have piece of mind that you're doing your best to get the most out of a multi tool, I would follow this table

[knotty flax]

Pardon?

[thorny summit]

I found it

[tawdry siren]

The scan stat effects only scan range and doesnt effect % on scanning fauna, plants etc. Scan distance is easily maxxed out to the hard cap with just using s class upgrades. I personally just use a 2x2 sentinel weapon for scanning fauna.

When It comes to mining, my opinion is just get a MT with decent layout, it doesnt need to be perfect sc layout, as when you get to the point of using mining buff food, it kinda becomes pointless as you can get like 3 stacks of 10k in like 15 seconds, and the extra % you get from the best adjacency layout becomes meaningless.

[knotty flax]

Yeah, or, like I said, you can feel good knowing you did what you could to get the best multi tool by just following the table, and getting a good slots version, because np matter how much people try to play it down because they don't need want or use good slot versions, you should get the good slot versions because they're just better, and thats that.

[spare torrent]

this also about weapons?

what weapon do u guy slike to use? so far ii tried the charge up blacl hole and ratatata green balls ones

wich one is the most fun? are some too weak opr can u jsut use every weapon?

[tough hill]

I used to use Pulse Spitters and Neutron cannon, I am now using boltcaster

[spare torrent]

on the permadeath i was inside a derelict freighter that spawned dozens of insects, i thiunk in those cases the pulse with ricichet would be really useful? in that case i jsut ran for my life to the end

[tough hill]

Neutron cannon would be the best, since they have aoe so you can take the bugs out while they just pop out of the nest

[knotty flax]

I haven't committed to boltcaster before, I need to try it. Do you know the optimum slot layout for bolt caster?

[tough hill]

I don't, I just used my old Sentinel tool (the one with the P layout), and got the best X and Sentinel upgrades I could get

I think 2x2 might be better?

[knotty flax]

Aaah okie dokie

[tough hill]

I'll try 2x2 in a bit, got a mission i need to do for babs

[knotty flax]

I'll probably do something similar. Might test a few things out

[tough hill]

With enough burst cooldown, it basically acts like pulse spitter anywa

just less ammo eating

[tawdry siren]

I use pulse splitter, sometimes for a change vs sentinels, i use Mech cannon, as it does aoe damage

[knotty flax]

I noticed my pulse splitter hits do tick damage, is there such a thing with boltcaster?

[tough hill]

I never noticed it

as in tick damage even with Pulse spitter

Are you using stun grenades and impact ignitor?

[knotty flax]

I don't think so. I think it's from an add on or something

Specific to the pulse splitter

[tough hill]

Impact ignitor does burn damage if you hit something with pulse spitter while they are stunned

[tawdry siren]

They dont last long enough for me to notice tick damage

[tawdry siren]

https://youtu.be/7nVHA-ZyzLs?si=rx9F6ISch0WxtIdW pulse splitter video

This is why we say there is no meta best weapon type, just the one you like using best.

[pure acorn]

just done the story quests to make my first staff this is epic

[plush sierra]

Ill only ask again cause I dont wanna spam it but anyone have coords to this staff color with a green crystal, im running around trying to be Yoda 😅

[real trout]

Where do i get the staff multitools what

I havent even seen them

Like these look awesome i want one

[fallow bronze]

You have to complete the main storyline and Autophage

[torn junco]

The staffs color is dependent on where u build it?

[tough hill]

Yes

[knotty flax]

Nice little 3x1 Alien MT. Comms ball is down

[keen hinge]

Are all modular Staff MT Parts buyable at the Autophage Camps?

[tough hill]

Yes, though different camps offer different parts

[keen hinge]

Ah good to know THX for that

[crude scaffold]

how does it have so many modifier slots

[knotty flax]

I upgraded it fully

[crude scaffold]

i see

[ornate vortex]

best multitool for a decent all rounder?

i want to make a staff are they alright?

[devout turtle]

Pretty much any type of multitool will work well enough as an all rounder

[verbal bison]

See pins for multitool comparisons

[magic sundial]

Are there any atlantid multi tools that have the jet black ball and blue/purple lighting out there?

[tough hill]

The ones on NMSCE that have blue trim all have shiny ball rather than jet black

[real trout]

when making my staff, does where i buy the parts determine their color or is it where i build them?

[tawdry siren]

Where you build i believe

[verbal bison]

The parts have no stats on their own, the terminal you assemble them at is all that matters. Though each terminal will treat each staff head differently.

[stable patio]

How do I get better damage

[tough hill]

That number is fairly meaningless on its own

[stable patio]

I figured that out sadly

[tough hill]

If you have all the blueprint techs possible installed on that weapon, your only option is roll for higher upgrades, and once you have the upgrades where you want to be, that's all you can do with that weapon

[stable patio]

Darn

[knotty flax]

Don't listen to people that tell you any multi tool is good as an all rounder. Some multi tools are simply better at some things that others are not. It's a technical fact, although differences might not be major. Go for an all-round multi tool type, and get good slot formation on it, and it will be better than a bad slots one.

See here for the table of stat rolls #nms-multitools message

The best all-rounder seems to be experimental, or royal, and alien. I would go with one of those 3.

[knotty flax]

1. better slots, 2) better upgrades

This is my staff and it has no decent upgrades at all.

It's all because of the slots

[thorny prairie]

where can i acquire one of these

[viral compass]

Monoliths

Looks Like in the Background of the picture

But you have to get an Upgrade for your mt first I think

[thorny prairie]

hod do i get them from monoliths

[viral compass]

I think by completing the Autophage Quest you unlock the upgrade.

[thorny prairie]

what is the upgrade called since i allready finished the Autophage

[viral compass]

https://youtu.be/gg1ZDGQ7BEU?si=O7-Gl5XAQYzPaOd0

[tough hill]

You can only find them in Monoliths in Korvax systems. Look for a purple light around the monolith, walk up to it and it will open something like a portal glyph interface, feed it, and interact with it a second time

[thorny prairie]

thanks

[plush minnow]

Noob question here, what is the importance of the slot formation?

[knotty flax]

It's not important really. It's more about what you want. If you compare two weapons, one with good slots and one with bad slot formation, the good slot one will just be better. Its that simple. So if you want a more powerful multi tool, the slots and their layout is important, but only if you care about power, like me 😊

People in here might tell you it doesn't matter, but they will say that for varying reasons, probably mostly because they can't be bothered to go the extra mile to try to find a good slots one. Some people just don't know that supercharger slots and their layout can improve a weapon dramatically. The improvement by way of good slots isn't enough for some people for them to see it as a worthy grind. My opinion is, if you're looking for a good multi tool, why not go for a better slots one? It just makes logical sense.

BTW I forgot if I posted this one or not, so here it is

Comms ball is down with instructions where to reload restore.

[ornate vortex]

i followed a guide to get a multitool but a different multitool is in the case what do i do?

[frosty plaza]

someone can recomend, tech 4 this?

[shell topaz]

Just have to keep resetting that system in order for multi tools to reset

[ornate vortex]

how going in and out or restore points?

[shell topaz]

Going to a different galaxy and going back in the same one

[knotty flax]

What type of multi tool is it? You may have to reload a restore point in order to get it

[shell topaz]

Same way you reset the dreadnought

[ornate vortex]

experimental

[knotty flax]

Is it in a little building on a planet or the spacestation?

[ornate vortex]

building

[knotty flax]

Yeah, you need to reload a restore

[ornate vortex]

i have been

[knotty flax]

Go to each planet in that system, hop out of your ship, and reload restore. Then go back to that building to check

Do this on every planet until the tool shows up

[ornate vortex]

ok

so go to a planet in the system restore point and then fly back

[knotty flax]

Yep

And try not to do it in a corvette, just to avoid any issues

[ornate vortex]

kk

ill use my sick as hell sentinel ship

[knotty flax]

There ya go hehe

[ornate vortex]

YES I FINALLY FOUND IT

[ornate vortex]

wait it has good sc slots?

[heady pond]

Initial focus when deciding on your main tool/ship should be its model, these items will spend the higher majority of their time on your screen so hopefully you like how it looks, when you do decide on a tool there are a few things to consider regarding that tool and best performance.

While tool and ships will vary in their class bonuses and core stats this is a negligible variation you’ll barely notice and most of the time can’t see in game, the difference comes from applying better quality modules with better stats, this is much easier for any player to see and improve.

The biggest difference will come from how you layout your tech, adjacency bonus is indicated by modules of the same tech type placed next to each other showing a coloured box around it, essentially adjacency bonus improves both modules by around 6% for each side they're touching similar modules, this bonus is not reflected in the stat readings of the individual modules, only the actual effectiveness and the final stat readings

Supercharge bonuses will effect the module it will boost most things placed on it by around 1.25x, Note that supercharge bonus is greater than adjacency so favour this layout over adjacency, this is why tools/ships with connecting SC slots are more favourable.

Images detail both adjacency and supercharge optimisation. In the pinned of both channels you can find what tool/ship types are proficient in certain areas (class bonus)

[heady pond]

Wonder where that 4th will be once S.

The layout isn’t bad, The two on the right are in good positions.

[heady pond]

Would also Cc: you @ornate vortex

Each tool will have their proficiencies, these bonus tho are negligible but they do exist and you can always cater tools to their proficiencies, you won’t notice a large difference in PvE or general use, you’ll notice a greater difference with the modules you install and their stats, as well as SC and adjacency bonus.

[plush minnow]

Thank you! This makes a good deal of sense

I prioritize how cool something looks by default so I've got that covered already

[heady pond]

As long as you like the looks of what your using that’s all that matters in this game really.

Most cases after you can in some way influence other stat, slot outcomes (limited tho and still “random”

[last inlet]

Wait so if i place stuff around thr tool it get boosted wtf

I been just putting it in

[tough hill]

There is a thing with the terminals that if you attempt to build a staff twice in the same terminal without committing or completely backing out of the terminal, the stats and slots change, and this change depend on where exactly you are standing too

[heady pond]

Correct, this has been around for a while but more so popular and easier to replicate after relics which changed how staff seeds are generated and the terminal (cabinet) effect.

A new seed will display each time the player changes their XYZ around the terminal, theoretically it could expand further than where the player could interact with that terminal.

Detailed the method and findings here. #nms-multitools message

will have to update the method tho, some steps are less dependent on such specifics detailed.

Player shouldn’t need to remove any components or place any specific ones, the seed change should occur regardless as long as the player assembles and backs out a few times.

[heady pond]

Location placed in the tool doesn’t matter, it’s if placed in a SC slot and if the modules are placed optimally to get the best bonus from Adjacency.

Those layouts are in the image.

[last inlet]

Ohh

I get it thanks

[knotty flax]

Two of these at this spacestation, I posted the best one here (from the back shelf)

Two staffs from the same camp

[tough hill]

First time I ever saw a naturally spawning staff with overloaded techs lol

[knotty flax]

Nice! I've found a few but I look for staffs everyday. I hope it turns into a good staff for you mate 🫡

[tough hill]

Oh I am not after staves, I just try them for the giggles whenever i am at a terminal to see if anything interesting comes out

[knotty flax]

Could get lucky like that still lol

Imagine of you pull out a diamond or a T doing that lol

[raven siren]

how do you get those staffs from it?

[mint wing]

Oh damn the P sc layout. nice

[knotty flax]

Just put the correct head bro, and you can use whatever 2nd and 3rd piece you want

[knotty flax]

Cheers mate 🫡

[halcyon snow]

anyone know where i can find a autophage camp where i can craft a pink/white radiant staff?

[halcyon snow]

@knotty flax im gonna ping you because i know ur a staff hunter

[knotty flax]

I can give you the location for a pink and grey one? I don't have pink and white

[halcyon snow]

hmmm

[knotty flax]

Here, take a look, see if you like it

#nms-multitools message

[halcyon snow]

what about white and green or black and pink/green

[knotty flax]

Unfortunately there is no black

[halcyon snow]

ahh okay

white and green?

[knotty flax]

I've only found I think 3 staffs maybe 4 that have good slots? I only keep good slot ones

So the colours I have will be very limited

It's easy to hunt them though. It just takes ages to find good slot ones

[halcyon snow]

seems to take me forever to find them any lol. i liked the grey/purple one but im in eissentam unfortunately

[knotty flax]

Ah I can take you to the galaxy where my staff is if you like

I can't do it right now, but I can defo do it soon

[last inlet]

How do i get jt

[knotty flax]

Follow the glyphs in the pics, once you get to the destination just follow the coordinates in the other pic by flying in cockpit mode so you can see your coordinates on the screen 👍

Also, you need that staff head. The other parts you can decide it doesn't matter about those

One thing I do is, I duplicate staff parts with a portable refiner so I never run out

[last inlet]

How i get the parts

[knotty flax]

You can buy them at harmonic and autophage camp terminals

I'm not sure if there's another way to get them

[tough hill]

I don't think there is, that's why I just hit the scan button every time I see a Point of Interest (not including those with buildings) to see if there are autophage nearby, and do all of the item hand in quests to let my void mote build up

[knotty flax]

Ah OK, ty. I wasn't sure.

I don't know why it caps locks ok for me sometimes lol nvm

[tough hill]

Actually, I lied, the staff parts we make during the quest line, those can be remade after the quest

So at least for those specific staff parts, there are alternative sources

[knotty flax]

What alternative sources? I play on creative so I don't have to worry about cost.

I duplicate parts anyway it's just easier

[tough hill]

The parts you make during quest as part of pilgrimage are the only parts that you can obtain without going through the void motes

As you can make those parts again after the quest

[knotty flax]

But how?

[tough hill]

It's an inventory craft

And the staff parts are on the right most tab, where all of the quest related crafting are stored

[knotty flax]

Holy crap. You learn something new everyday lol. Funny how those are the exact parts that do not stack in the inventory too.

[halcyon snow]

you can actually tell if theyre there via a subtle smoke cloud round the POI

[last inlet]

Oh you get staffs at those sentinels places

[knotty flax]

Yeperooney ya do

You can buy most of the parts there too although what parts they sell is random, but I just learned today you can make some of them too hehe.

[last inlet]

Ahh i thought i gotta go find like a monk or something

[last inlet]

Is this on a bubble plant b

?

Nvm

[lusty gale]

S class Sentinel pillar multitool
(No resets, planet default)

[knotty flax]

Did you try reloading on some of the planets in that system to see if the colour changes? This is how you get whatever colour you want, although I don't think it works in every system that has one of these multi tools. It works on a lot of them though.

[knotty flax]

Nah

[lime magnet]

One of the coolest looking multitool ive found so far, even as a S

[shy quiver]

Is the atlas staff the best multitool?

[mint wing]

There is no best multitool.

All mt types will be op vs what game can throw at u when upgraded.

Type only matters when u want to min max it and flex with big numbers.

[neat pike]

Tbh I just pick my multitools in function of their looks and sc slots

[shy quiver]

Alr ty

[tough hill]

There is a couple of nuances to Atlas sceptre in particular, and Sentinel tools that sets it apart from Staffs that isn't reflected in the stats alone, but that won't matter unless you really want to squeeze every bit of function out of your singular MT

[serene flame]

My savior

[vast bison]

I have something like this but it’s black and white it’s called peace something

[mighty monolith]

Yeah the white with black bubble or diamond decal ones are the most common.

I dont usually hunt them anymore

[vast bison]

And I thought I had a real good one😭

[mighty monolith]

Oh they are still nice dont get me wrong , just seen them around a fair bit . A decent slot layout can help make any tool more appealing

[vast bison]

Yea I’m trying to make it decent I’ve been on this game for maybe a month

[mighty monolith]

Looks like you need to get that upgraded a bit.

[vast bison]

I’m still learning and guess I don’t really know how I bought the thing that’s says class be so I thought I was upgrading it

[mighty monolith]

Sometimes c class stuff can turn out to be really good . When itd upgraded to s class and all 4 super charged slots are opened up and they are together, but that takes time , sometimes it's easier to just swap the tool out for one thats already s class

[vast bison]

Right I’ll probably look for one but I’ll need to make more money lol

[mighty monolith]

Yeah if you are starting out it can be a bit of a grind . Making money is a heap easier than it used to be at least.
If you have your heart set on an experiemntal I have a heap on my YT channel. I put a video for this red one in the content creator channel . You might find one you prefer in my collection

[knotty flax]

Same. It's nice to know you have a good slot layout AND good looks. The slots aren't massively important, but I disagree that having better slots is meaningless.

I say why not have both?

[knotty flax]

Some of your experimental are banging, especially in terms of looks

I've never seen that one with the light blue spikes on it before I saw yours

[neat pike]

Tbh looks are my main factor lol

[knotty flax]

Yeah man, same for a good amount of people, especially in this discord. Nothing wrong with that. Looks are what first draw me to an item tbh

I like the best of both though

Coz I can

[dapper lodge]

Okay, this is the first decent Experimental I've found and I love it

Nice color, and adorable look

[last inlet]

What is the best type of tool

[heady pond]

The one you like, It will spend the majority of its time taking up your screen so hopefully you like it, eitherway with good stats on modules in optimal adjacency bonus using even minimal SC slots you will find that tool to achieve what you want it to.

You can focus on trying to get a preferred model with Ideal SC slot placement to use for your tech, it can greatly improve the effectiveness of whatever you place in that arrangement.

If you do want to min/max certain tool types will have minor stat bonus in certain areas like damage and mining, those can be found in the image attached and in the pins. This bonus is negligible but if you are keen for min/maxing the option is there, with how many tools a player can own per save might aswell cater some tools towards their bonuses.

[last inlet]

Is it bad if im like hella confused

[round swan]

It depends on what you want to use it for lol

[last inlet]

Can i just have 1 tool for everything

[round swan]

Of course! Not sure on the specific limit off the top of my head, but you can have several

[heady pond]

Not at all, there are lots of mechanics to do with optimisation of a tool.

Those optimisations vary to a degree with how far into that rabbit hole you want to go.

Most players will just focus on their tools SC arrangement and installed modules and their stats.

[heady pond]

6 active 18 in multitool storage.

[round swan]

I prefer to go for damage output personally. For that you pretty much wanna stick with sentinel until you're able to craft a staff

Even then the difference is only cosmetic aside from your tech class and slots

[neat pike]

Personally I use an atlantid mt for everything

[tough hill]

You can have one tool for everything, I use one tool for one thing, I even go so far as giving each different weapon it's own tool, just because it's faster hotkeying weapons than cycling through them, and I am a supporter of "if you are using X weapon at any given time, you dont need to SC Y weapon"

[round swan]

I started doing the same. I hate cycling between more than like 2 or 3 things max. I finally just found an atlantid I liked the look of. Not worried about slots with that pairing it with food buffs anyway. Staffs are a pain when you're going for particular colors and half decent slots lol ugh

[tough hill]

And when one with decent slots do show up, it's always with that one head that makes me want to tear my eyes out

(the autophage head really loves me for some reason)

[round swan]

Even using the "magic staff" method takes forever and you still have to sacrifice a tool that way.

[mighty monolith]

Thanks

[mild veldt]

Magic staff?

[knotty flax]

It's where you put your 3 staff parts into the terminal, you assemble it but not accept it, then go back to the first screen with your 3 parts, assemble again, do not accept it again, go back again, and then replace any part with another and the staff will change colour and slots.

Also, we get it people, you don't care about slots. You don't think they're important, blah blah blah. Well, a lot of people want good slots, so it is what it is.

[knotty flax]

There's actually a specific pattern and a way you can know if the staff head will give you good slots or not.

And you can reset the 'seeds' with a reload

You can physically manipulate what slots you will get with atlantid tools too, by reloading on planets before claiming the tool.

[tough hill]

I'll see, my drive to find a decent staff is quite low as I am not a fan of their aesthetic, and the only time I check them is if I run into them, most of the time due to harmonic camps, but harmonic camps are buggy, if you come back and revisit them, you lose the ability to make stave, as I believe the code behind when the game shows that staff crafting option is after you unlock the MT box, but when you come back to the camp at a later stage, the MT boss is unlocked, but the game doesn't register the terminal unlocking it even if you hit the option, completely locking you out of making staves with it ever again

Right now I am focused on documenting Freighters with good SC slots and S rank Organic frigates

[mild veldt]

What’s magic about it?

[mild veldt]

Huh?

[mild veldt]

How do you see them?

[knotty flax]

Huh, I've never had that issue.

As for the way the staff looks, if there's no staff head that pleases you, I understand.

I agree they could look better, but I quite like the look of the full radiant staff, or the skull head looking thing

[knotty flax]

Well the assembling and backing out causes a glitch which changes the appearance and slots of the staff, so that's why they call it a magic staff

[tough hill]

The skull is exactly the one I dislike the most lol, actually the hand is also horrible too, and the two loop ones don't look great either, so that basically breaks it down to 3 heads

[knotty flax]

I like 3 too. I like radiant, havoc, and the skull. The hand one is bloody horrible lol

[tough hill]

Honestly, if they can let us override staff's look with another, I would seriously look into a staff

[knotty flax]

I'd like that. I think I get where they were trying to go with the designs, but yeah they could be a hell of a lot better. It's not the end of the world though as thr sentinel rifle is equally good in terms of stats as a staff I think, so if you like the sentinel rifles you can use one of those. I like both.

[mild veldt]

Oh So it changes the seed?

[mild veldt]

How do you do this?

[knotty flax]

I believe so

[knotty flax]

It's about recognising the staffs seed slots by upgrading from class c, and checking where the slots fall as you upgrade to each class. Mark the slots down, and then try to find a class B, or A etc that gives you slots next to your seed slots

For me personally, I try a couple of combos and then just dip. I don't spend too much time on staffs, because I prefer looking for ships. Btw finding a good slot ship is similar to finding a good slot staff, by upgrading from a class c or b and noting the slots.

To manipulate the slots on an atlantid tool, a great tool finder I know in another sever explained it to me, but it's long.

I can dm it to you if you like

The process is quite simple, a lot more simple than explaining it lol

[mild veldt]

Yes please

[knotty flax]

I got you. One sec

[round swan]

Don't think anyone said they don't care, they're just not as important as you think and if thats all you care about the "good" one are already available. We're just not gonna crap on people and jump down their thoats for posting their finds like you do. That's petty. Post whatever you want. If you don't like what you see, you can always keep scrolling or look elsewhere. 👍

[knotty flax]

I've jumped down people's throats?

Whatever man.

Slots matter more than you think, and thats my opinion. Take a chill pill

[knotty flax]

I kinda like this one ngl

[raven siren]

its kind of thee other way around compaared to usual

[knotty flax]

Yea hehe

[halcyon ingot]

I got a staff ||from the autophage questline|| but my current multitool is better. Is there a way to get S tier staffs

I wanna use a staff but I wanna have good multitool 😈

[knotty flax]

Yeah man, you gotta go to a harmonic camp terminal, or an autophage camp terminal, get yourself some staff parts and blap some in the terminals, see what rolls you can get. The S class staffs are a little harder to get but you'll probably come across one if you're persistent enough.

[devout turtle]

Ngl, doing the reroll do-si-do has worked more consistently for me than trying different staff heads

[halcyon ingot]

The rolls change for every part?

[knotty flax]

Aah, maybe I'll try that see if I get better results. I've found 3 staffs with T shape slots so far and one L shape, but I'm kinda struggling to find good looking ones

[knotty flax]

Nah, it's the head that determines the slots. If you're doing the magic staff thing, standing in different spots and at different heights in those same spots will give different staffs

Different in terms of stats and slots I mean

[halcyon ingot]

Bet thanks

[stoic spire]

Is an A class or higher sentinel gun too much to ask for

[tough hill]

Since you are trying for sentinel gun, you sound like you have access to harmonic camps, what I would do in your position is find and scrap a few interceptors, hop a few outlaw space stations, buy out there suspicious packages, open them up, sell the X class techs you get, and upgrade an existing sentinel tool to the rank you desire

The chance of A or S rank appearing will also depend on the economy of the star system you are trying this in

[boreal jewel]

I just farm mine in an dissonant outlaw system. If I get a pistol, I go to another world. If I get a rifle, I keep farming that specific world. Found one in like, 30 min-1hr

(S class)

[wanton parcel]

Can you show it?

Just want to know how good the random s class is

[boreal jewel]

It’s fuckin garbage, it not even past 100k damage.

[tawdry siren]

Whats the base damage on it?

[boreal jewel]

Idk, it one shots sentinels. I can’t check because my SD card decided to die today, so now I am redownloading the game. (The data is fine)

[heady pond]

Have a look at the pins will be this image, it will assist you in laying out your tool to get optimal adjacency bonus your one note is to arrange tech with the most sides touching/in a box formation, supercharge does beat adjacency.

Side note for some of the installed tech. The forbidden multitool modules don’t influence anything besides the boltcaster, in your current layout they just take up space.

Damage potential isn't how much damage your weapon is doing or a ceiling, better to gauge individual weapon damage by the damage numbers displayed when you have that setting enabled.

[serene flame]

Omg it's literally just Tetris

[boreal jewel]

I see, thank you very much sir!

Much appreciated.

[wanton parcel]

I think you have not optimised it, the sc layout is great

Damage potential means basically nothing

The single neutron cannon in those slots is probably insane

[boreal jewel]

Right idea, but I need to optimize more.

[wanton parcel]

Maybe get rid of the scanner stuff

Use that on a different multitool

[boreal jewel]

Nah

I only use two guns.

[wanton parcel]

Scatter blaster could probably get you to 100k

And not all pulse spitter modules are connected

And the money, did you just spend like a huge amount or are you just, financially down

[boreal jewel]

Just a backup, but yeah, I didn’t think that specific module does anything when connected. So I didn’t bother.

[boreal jewel]

I spent a lot

Like, a lot.

[wanton parcel]

How much and on what

[boreal jewel]

What do you think?

[wanton parcel]

I have no clue

[boreal jewel]

Guess

[wanton parcel]

What was your starting point

[boreal jewel]

1.8 billion.

[wanton parcel]

[boreal jewel]

It’s not hard to make units in this game, I’ll get that back in like a week.

[serene flame]

Btw do you have one for ships modules setup too?

[pliant plinth]

are the x class modules for the neutron canon worse than s class ones?

or are they just not avaliable

[tawdry siren]

Should be in legacy ship channel pins

[wanton parcel]

Idk same, I have tried so many X classes but they are actually consistent for once

Consistently horrible

[pliant plinth]

can't you check the stats?

are the stats the same?

like cooldown, danmage etc

yep

i just checked the wiki

S class and X class all same stats

[heady pond]

They have the same maximum stats, you can check the highest stat range on individual modules if you go to catalogue and guide > technology > in this case you want weapon.

[misty kestrel]

Find any sentinel ship on this planet and activate the autophage thing where you charge the hyaline brain, most of them will have this multitool for sale

[heady pond]

Every monolith within that system (being korvax) will contain an Atlantid multitool, when interacting with a Discordant Interface that becomes available after the player has completed the mission "They Who Returned"

However please note the tool is tied to the system pool (the planet or in space/station the player has last reloaded at) so it may not present that tool always if the player has reloaded elsewhere.

inital Slots themselves aren’t guaranteed as each “cabinet” contains a set but random inital layout, any SC slots assigned afterwards become seeded.

With this post and the specifics you are detailing, consider providing the system pool (likely the station) and the lat/long coordinates of this monolith.

[misty kestrel]

Yeah fair enough, I also forgot to mention this started as a B-class and I upgraded it to S, I've found some A-classes. I just got very lucky on the charge slots on this one.

First time posting something on this thread, I thought people might like the look of the tool, so I just put it here.

From my understanding now is, if I go to other systems, this planet I posted will have a chance of not spawning this tool for the next guy that goes there?

My friend managed to grab one while I was still on the planet

[heady pond]

Yeh if you remember the lat/long or have it saved that will allow players to locate the specific tool in the image, without that it’s unlikely to get the same layout.

Given the player that goes to that same system loads the system pool that tool is assigned to it will be the same.

Things aren’t random each time a player visits something, most of the time, for all players if one discovery is something it will be the same for everyone else.

[misty kestrel]

Alright, noted.

I don't remember the exact monolith I got this one from sadly, it only occurred to me a while later that people might be interested in this

I will remember to put the exact monolith location next time I find something like this, so people can get the exact copy

[heady pond]

Eh if someone is really determined they will locate an ideal layout to them.

The two last seeded slots on that tool would be in a nice close nit spot, so just takes a bit of searching to get two good initial slots, as you have here.

Might even lessen the search if one of the other seeded slots are in a god loc

[misty kestrel]

Yeah the planet is littered with like 10+ monoliths like this

Mostly B-class, some A-classes, this one originated from a B-class

[heady pond]

Yeh for any discovery that has a specific location ie crash site, cabinet, terminal, camp, structure always include the lat/long and if you know the system pool include that.

[misty kestrel]

I'll keep that in mind thanks

[misty kestrel]

Black S-class Atlantid Multitool 4.1k nanites.
All I did was add 1 multitool slot to reveal L shape OC.
Eissentam Galaxy, there is a featured teleporter called "Last Egg from the First Dragon-UD22" in the anomaly that takes you to that galaxy, on planet UD22-Delta.

From there you have to travel to planet UD XXII, I managed to quickly find a portal there. (see first set of coordinates below)

I have made a public teleporter about 2500u from the portal called "Eissentam Galaxy Portal Teleporter" with an arrow pointing in the direction of the portal (shiny blocks), although I don't know if it can be found in the teleporter list (-68.93, +163.47 coords for my teleporter on UD XII from there follow the arrow).

The glyphs will take you to Lewen Minor planet, the monolith is at -14.08, -22.96. It's about a 30s flight.

With thanks to @drowsy verge for showing me this.

[slow tulip]

found a sentinel multitool in my home system I think its a four square. it started as a b class with two linked this is what happened when i upgraded it to a class. I will update once i have it at s class.

[tough hill]

If it is, and you are sharing, please also include the coordinates of the harmonic camp the tool came from

[slow tulip]

I unfortunately did not save the cords to the camp.

[slow tulip]

it wasn't a four square

[fallow bronze]

Sad was it close tho?

[slow tulip]

nope four spots away where the mining laser is

[gray crown]

genuinely one of the worst scanner upgrades i think i couldve gotten. oof lmao

[tough hill]

Not the worst, s ranks range from 6500 to 10000, and the most important is the Fauna anyway, which, while not the best, not terrible eigher

[fossil agate]

I want to get a ridiculously stupid multitool

[fallow bronze]

Ok. Thanks for checking

[last inlet]

Is there any simpler way of getting ts😭

[tough hill]

Atlantis tools? Nope, not even in creative mode, the artemis quests are a hard requirement to get them

[last inlet]

I didnt even know it was an atlantis tool i was just following the instructions

[tough hill]

Says so in the first line of the post 😛

[last inlet]

Yeah i skipped past that

[misty kestrel]

No it took me like 30 minutes to get there, I am providing easy coordinates, so you don't have to look for the portal 😛

I even got lucky on finding the portal first try, usually it takes a bit longer

[mighty monolith]

2 Black and 1 Grey S Class Atlantid Rifles

[wanton parcel]

Cool design but like

The slots man

[mighty monolith]

Yup, not the best layout I've ever seen

[versed jetty]

Do you have to be on the same platform to get these tools

[tough hill]

No

[prisma creek]

I will be posting my multitools here soon

[timber spear]

I had the expedition staff with the skull , I swapped it for another staff and lost it . How do I get it back

[tough hill]

Did you check if it's in your MT menu? Go to your quick menu, select the cog, in there there should be an option to swap MT, check if it is in there

But if you pressed the swap button with another staff during the comparison window, it's gone for good, your best bet is to reload an earlier safe

[wanton parcel]

Who wants to see a silver Atlantid tool with L shaped sc slots

It spawns as c class

It is in hillbert though

[tough hill]

yes please!

[wanton parcel]

Gimme one minute

I checked it but I restored so I can't show slots rn

In a bit

It costs like 700M to get the slots though

[tough hill]

Also, could you show us the coordinates of that monolith?

[wanton parcel]

Yes one second

Sorry I don't have the money on me to show slots

[tough hill]

That's fine

[wanton parcel]

Gotta do some scanning and become a billionaire for the first time

[tough hill]

tyvm!

[wanton parcel]

These are the slots

[vernal jolt]

25k more nanites, and i got a s class multi-tool.

@compact pecan thoughts?

[tough hill]

I would try super charging one of the laser upgrades instead of the laser, IME that has a bigger impact on the mining speed than SCing the laser, also you should install a normal mining laser on it to boost mining speed even more

[vernal jolt]

Idk how to sc a slot yet.

[tough hill]

You already have the hijacked laser in an SC slot

It's the blue slot

What I meant was swapping the hijacked laser with one of the laser upgrades so the upgrade is in the SC slot instead of the hijacked laser itself

[vernal jolt]

Sure. That i can do. Next time iam on nms though. Iam at work or about to arrive to work

[tough hill]

Ok

[vernal jolt]

Should mention the next multi-tool iam getting is either the autophase staff or atlas rifle (once i figure out to get that rifle)

Untill then i use this sentinal rifle

[wanton parcel]

So I was hunting for sentinel tools right

I found one but had to exchange my old one

I never checked it's slots but I decided too and it turned out to have 4 supercharged slots connected in an L shape

I got it from expedition 19 redux

[prisma creek]

what was its beam color

[stoic spire]

Forbidden lipstick tube

[mighty monolith]

forbidden is a state of mind

[misty kestrel]

I think it was either red or yellow

[lusty gale]

S class multitool similar to starter one, glyphs in second image, and I put a communication station near the building it’s in

[wild nova]

does the spawn pool thing still work for hunting experimental mulitools

cause the video is saw was from like 4 years ago

[jade plank]

Anybody ever seen one of these with a side sort of scanner attached to it? Its a pretty one

[prisma creek]

whats beam color on the one with red diamond

[wanton parcel]

Guys I am using boltcaster on my sentinel tool

It has 4 adjacent supercharged slots and I have s class and maxed out sentinel upgrades. I am only hitting 27k but I know I can hit 30k+. What should I do

I will try to get good X class modules but I might need some tips

[devout turtle]

I dont recall beam color being different based on multitool

Thought it started as blue, then turned yellow when warmed up, and then red when close to overheating

[prisma creek]

nope beam color can change

I’ve got greens with atlantids and some yellow.. I have a greenish yellow weird one that I can’t get a consistent answer on

[devout turtle]

Hmm, I should pay closer attention to that, then

I definitely know they change to a golden yellow when warmed up

[mighty monolith]

No idea , sorry

[prisma creek]

alr

[mighty monolith]

You could go there , grab it out , check it out , and if u dont want it just reload your restore point before you do anything else and it will be like it never happened

[prisma creek]

I've got the nanites

but rn my uh multitool storage is full

[mighty monolith]

ah bummer. well if you really want it you might have to find one to let go

[empty jacinth]

Does anyone know how to find staff multi tools without expeditions

[royal knot]

you build your own at autophage camps after completing the They Who Returned quest

[empty jacinth]

Thx

[worldly igloo]

holy

[astral vapor]

How r u doing to grind them?

[vernal jolt]

Well by buying tech and arms package and open them (from outlaw stations) and sell the uppgrades

[vernal jolt]

It will cost you a few mil units though, but its the only quick way i found so far ingame.

[verbal bison]

Another pretty good way to get nanites is to set up a curious deposit farm and refine runaway mould into nanites. But the pirate package method is probably a little faster if you''ve got more units than you need.

[vernal jolt]

I do, cuz got 2 stacks of this (sold by now)

[verbal bison]

Just saying, not everyone is rich 🙂

[vernal jolt]

Ik, i was taking a bathroom break while i was onboard the anomoly. When i got back, those 2 stacks was in my inventory.

[wanton parcel]

Do you dupe?

Oh nvm

But THEY are likely duped

[wanton parcel]

That is just for the normal ones I believe

The Atlantids have different colours and they change even more when also installing the regular mining beam

Like if it was Red normally it becomes yellow

[hard elk]

can anyone explain me how to get new multi-tools i started playing 2 days ago

[wanton parcel]

You can buy them at cabinets in minor settlements or space stations or get others through specific quests mostly

sometimes

it is uo to chance

i recommend videos for beginners, they have lots of info.

[trim barn]

what a beauty

[hard elk]

what about the S class

i need those

i dont know how the finding mech works

[edgy frigate]

You get those from sential stations after shutting them down

[wanton parcel]

it is up to chance if you are finding them randomly, or you can upgrade any multitool to S class but that an get quite expensive

or if you unlock glyphs and a portal, you can find natural S class tools found by the community that also have great supercharged slots that are optimized

[hard elk]

where to find glyphs?

[wanton parcel]

Just watch some videos they explain it in depth

[astral vapor]

How do I put the weapon displayer on my Corvette? It's glitched, not attaching to the wall properly

[tough hill]

I just did it slowly

If you mean the weapon rack

Iirc it start out at a really awkward angle, so I just have it where I want it, then slowly rotated the rack until I have it at the right angle then build it

[astral vapor]

So it never attaches to the Corvette in a right angle from the start?

I thought it was a glitch

[astral vapor]

Mine looks like this

[tough hill]

Ok, I was making sure we were taking about the same thing

[tough hill]

That's my experience too, but its most likely a glitch

[astral vapor]

So how did you do in order to look good? Found a flat wall?

[tough hill]

I only make it so it's oriented the correct way, I did not bother making it look good

[prisma creek]

I don’t have coords to where I got it

[hard elk]

🥲

[prisma creek]

I knowww

but when you hop worlds often

I was tired and exhausted

it was either in eissantam, calypso, or euclid though

[hard elk]

i wish u had those cords today i will get my all glyphs

[hard elk]

sentinals and royal are my fav

[prisma creek]

I also have this

[prisma creek]

these are atlantid

[hard elk]

ohhh

gives sentinals vibe mb

😭

[prisma creek]

sentinels have that weird home depot drill look, and the other one looks like kind of a gauss rifle

[hard elk]

i see i am new so figuring things out myself

[prisma creek]

for high damage go voltaic staff

you need to complete they who returned for that

[prisma creek]

guides help

[hard elk]

okkk

[honest sable]

Is the best multi tool that staff

[tough hill]

If you want to talk strictly from a function point of view, no

Staves are strictly inferior to sentinel weapons all else being equal

[steady lagoon]

guys it took me so long to figure out how to swtich between multitools using the menu or utilities thing I forgot what its called but the thing that pops up when you press 'x' on pc/laptop

[mint wing]

Staffs and sentinel have exacly same stats

Diffrence is visual

[tough hill]

One difference: sentinel has hijacked laser, staves have mining laser, which makes sentinel weapons strictly better due to being able to install an additional mining laser on it to increase mining speed

This difference is what makes it 'strictly' better. Because everything is equal otherwise barring visual differences and quest requirement differences

Also the quest requirement may also tip sentinel over the edge vs staff. The former doesn't require They Who Returned completed.

[mint wing]

Staff and sentinel are best in dps.

Not mining

[tough hill]

Yes, they are, I am not disputing that

I am disputing that sentinel and Staff are exactly the same because of the mining laser. This doesn't affect those who uses different tools for different things, but may be of interest to those with an all in one

[mint wing]

Imo double mining laser is not intended mechanic so i dont counted it

Strictly , thses mt when raw without any modifications they are the same

[tough hill]

Right, though I may still argue that sentinel tips it over due to having lower quest requirement, but that's really me being nitpicky

Not counting laser and quest, yes, identical

[late zinc]

The Atlantid ones also double up mining laser with the runic lense but noticed they did a lot better mining anyways.
Thinking the double lasers might have been an accidental thing but they just left it be.

[tough hill]

Possible. I just took it as an intended feature.

[trim barn]

Hello, question here: how comes my S class scanner has 0 boosted slots and less slots than my B tool?

[prisma creek]

likely hidden, just put some multitool expansion modules in if you have them

[trim barn]

Where do i get those

Already glad to hear they are just hidden

[prisma creek]

there are a few methods. harmonic camps, from salvage laying around. breaking down old multitools, missions handed out from that one shop in the station. there are a few others

I duped the ones I had, now I don’t need to worry on those for awhile

[tough hill]

Some missions award them for rewards, or you can use units to brute force them, but they get expensive quick.

[trim barn]

u can dupe them??

[prisma creek]

units is very expensive

you could easily blow through a billion units just doing so

[tough hill]

Billion is underselling

they get to like 600m per spot

[prisma creek]

yes

thats why i’ve duped my multitool expansion modules

I don’t have the patience for that

i’m rn messing around and seeing what layouts I get with derelict freighters

[trim barn]

How do u dupe them?

[tough hill]

Refiner glitch. Put stuff into a portable refiner, then deconstruct them

[trim barn]

thanks for that!

[tough hill]

try it with cheap items first

[stoic spire]

Does class affect max damage output?

or is it just about slots

[stoic spire]

thanks

[ornate vortex]

i found this pretty at a near by station

decent sc slot

[elfin rivet]

How many slots???

[pearl pagoda]

whats your go to weapon for killing a bunch of sentinels

[tough hill]

Fully upgraded boltcaster or neutron cannon are my go to

[prisma creek]

I may or may not have the fastest firing / most uncontrollable bolt caster setup on an atlantid multitool ever

it doesn’t matter with or without combat scope it climbs rapidly

[ornate vortex]

wdym?

[elfin rivet]

I'd better count them on my fingers.

[pallid ivy]

Looks to be 4 slots on that one.

[pallid ivy]

I like to use the Neutron Cannon. Mostly because it both hits hard and is good for hitting enemies/minerals that have spawned inside the bedrock where you can't get to them with a normal weapon or laser.

[ornate vortex]

it was like a b or something and i leveled it up

[pallid ivy]

I'm probably gonna go snag that one when I get home, @ornate vortex. It would match my armor.

[rocky holly]

Rate?

[fallow bronze]

8/10 good damage

And scanner range

[rocky holly]

Thank you kindly

[wanton parcel]

Is it just me that doesn't add everything to all tools?

Like scanner, just put that on my experimental

[wanton parcel]

Consider putting neutron cannon in the 2 supercharged slot cluster for more DP

I don't even know how but I am grateful that I found my sentinel tool during the start of my save in expedition 19 redux

[tough hill]

You are not, I do that too. I prefer it that way so my tools don't cycle into other things by accident and have their own SC slots

[hard elk]

anyone has cords for Royal mt?

[tough hill]

Hey, sorry, i probably gave you the wrong glitch

[trim barn]

the glitch u gave earlier worked tho :p

just looked it up on youtube and showed if u place portable refiners on top of eachther and remove it, it works

[wanton parcel]

Guys you can just turn on free purchases and buy all multitool slots

No need to overcomplicate by duping and stuff

I do that when I preview my tool's slots

Then I restore though, I don't need all the slots anyways

[tough hill]

Spawning Sac is testing my patience regarding the "no free stuff setting on my main save" rule

Thankfully I don't like living ship enough (or at all) to really test it

But for MT, I use the save and reload, no need to use the free setting, the SC layout is pretty much determinable to be useful or not without needing to unlock the entire thing

[tough hill]

@hard elk

[hard elk]

Damn

[tough hill]

Most of the weird looking choices were deliberate

[wanton parcel]

The last one is great for neutron cannon. Basically the best possible imo

[wanton parcel]

What weapon could possibly be optimised for these slots

No offence but like

[mighty monolith]

No idea . Its just rare as shit with these teeth on the sides

[prisma creek]

amazing

[mighty monolith]

thanks 🙂

[honest sable]

Hi

I’ve heard that there is 236 galaxies, but you can only go to five

[tough hill]

Incorrect, there are 256, but normally you can only reach 255 of them, the last galaxy you need someone to bring you over

[mighty monolith]

4 Black and 3 Grey S Class Atlantid Rifles - Eissentam Galaxy

[tropic belfry]

Hiii I have a question, what has more damage potential the sentinel rifle or those weird guns u can make with quicksilver on the anomaly

[tropic belfry]

It's a shame this has less damage than a sentinel it looks so cool

[tough hill]

There is no MT you can make with QS

The guns you were looking at are probably something else entirely

[wanton parcel]

Sentinel tools and the Voltaic staff are tied for best damage bonus

They range from 25% to 50% bonus in damage

[misty goblet]

What happens to my current multitool when I accept one from a sentinel camp cabinet? I’m on Xbox.

[dark thorn]

check multitools menu.

there must be yours main.

[misty goblet]

I could t find it because I was in cockpit. I had to get out for quick menu to show it to me.

[tough hill]

You can hold up to 6 tools on you

and once you have access to space anomaly, you can get rid of any you don't want by the station behind tethys

[tropic belfry]

Question

When u use a save editor to copy the stats of a multi tool to the other so u can basically have a skin

If you change something does it reset to the values the new multi tool should have?

[woeful musk]

SINCE WHEN WAS THIS STUFF ADDED THIS IS SO COOL

[mighty monolith]

Atlantid mts got added about 2 years ago. Think I like them the most of all the styles

[woeful musk]

Wth how did I not know about these updates... I need to start playing again. Thankyou for this motivation to get a super cool sniper multitool

[mighty monolith]

Hehe, no probs . I've got a bunch of these on my YT channel , there is a video for the ones above in there , u might find some u like . You need to complete the "those who returned " mission before u can get these type

[tropic belfry]

can i get more than 4 neutron canon modules?

2 of them are bought 2 are made with the tech from the anomaly, no matter what i cant find something better

[tough hill]

You are missing the third bought tech

[tropic belfry]

this?

[tough hill]

yeah, there should be 3 s rank techs there, one of yours is just an A rank

[tropic belfry]

so

one of those 2 has to be S

because the other one is just A from the anomaly?

[tough hill]

Ignore the blueprint ranks, they don't matter as far as bonuses are concerned, the Neutron cannon blueprint tech is A rank, you can't change that. Once you have that, you should have the best possible upgrades for the others, so in your case, it would be 3 S rank upgrades

[tropic belfry]

so im just missing a single S class then

[tough hill]

Yes, one of those A is an A-rank upgrade, change that to S rank

if you want, you can try to roll for better S rank if the other two has bad stats, but beyond that, there isn't much you can do

[tropic belfry]

roll?

[tough hill]

although in your image, I would move the neutron cannon itself to between the 2 upgrades you are supercharging

[tropic belfry]

how

[tough hill]

buying more S ranks upgrades, opening them up and compare the stats, ditch the worse one until the 3 has stats you desire

[tropic belfry]

yeah i check every time i see an s class nautron canon

most of them dont change anything

[tough hill]

The stat numbers should change slightly

[tropic belfry]

Can I give a multi tool to another player?

I found a cool design that someone I know could like

[verbal bison]

No, but you can give them the coordinates to where you found it so they can get their own copy.

[wanton parcel]

I think you should also invest in finding a better multitool

Finding it by yourself might be hard so you could also use a community found one

[lavish sigil]

What is the best multitool weapon?

I'm currently using blaze javelin and was wondering if there was a more practical one

[serene flame]

@lavish sigil

[lavish sigil]

Thanks! So which should I choose between staff, atlantid and sentinel? Those three seem good to me, plus i also care about aesthetics lol

[devout turtle]

Which aesthetic do you like most? Go with that

[lavish sigil]

Hmm, i really love the futuristic and "atlas" look of the atlantid ones

You think theyre good for combat?

[serene flame]

For dmg staffs and sentinel are best but atlantid are very good too imo

[lavish sigil]

Alright thanks for the info!

[lavish sigil]

May I ask one more thing?

[serene flame]

Sure

[lavish sigil]

Which weapon do you personally find the best?

Right now I use blaze javelin

[serene flame]

None, I plan on having a multitool for each necessity rn

But while in the process of obtaining a staff I like I'm using an Atlantid

[lavish sigil]

I understand the multitool thing but I was referring to the combat weapon

You know

[serene flame]

Ohhh

[lavish sigil]

Boltcaster, blaze javelin and so on

[serene flame]

I got all of them rn but I don't think I should be doing that :p

[lavish sigil]

Hmm

[tropic belfry]

Like a sentinel one that's s class?

That one is an s class atlantid

Which is a copy of my s class sentinel

They have the same stats I use that as a skin

[wanton parcel]

No like a better slot layout

It only has 2 near each other

[tropic belfry]

Ohhh

But

If I get something better

It may not look like I want

This is a copy of my sentinel one and I te rolled it to get a look that I wanted with a save editor

And if on the wildni can get a loonlikebthat and better supercharged slots

I'll need nanites to upgrade them

How can a get lots of nanites?

[prisma creek]

i’m not terribly happy with the high damage one i’ve got in 1st person view

it just looks goofy

especially mining beam

[gaunt crypt]

They have the looks of something more than just Pistols.., but are they more than just Pistols stat-wise..?

[tough hill]

Looks have no bearing on their stats. Both of these are pistol type tool

[simple fulcrum]

how do I get those cool exotic multi-tools?

[tropic belfry]

Show!

[serene flame]

Exotic as in royal?

[simple fulcrum]

i figured it out, nvm!

but yes, royal

[serene flame]

Oh nice!!

[tropic belfry]

I want to know tho

[serene flame]

From sentinel pillars

You can buy sentinel pillars coords from mercenaries guild

Destroy the 3 power generators

[tropic belfry]

Or

[serene flame]

Disable the sentinels after killing the ones present

[tropic belfry]

I can kill them all till I steal their home address from their wallets

[serene flame]

And hope the multitool available is there

[serene flame]

?

[tropic belfry]

When u kill enough sentinels u get the cords of the pillar