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lofty scaffold
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mine are not perfect yet, they're all 50% charging but some are 13% dmg and some 14%

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and i hate gambling them cuz you can only buy one at a time, silly S mods vendors 😐

lofty scaffold
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oh yeh, long live Scott πŸ™‚

lost owl
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πŸ˜„ yea. but how did u get such high dmg

lofty scaffold
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this is how the mods look like

lost owl
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so a total of -9% charging speed would increase my dmg by 12k? i really doubt it

lofty scaffold
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went and grabbed a 483 dmg MT

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seems to matter a bunch

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also a bit better SG setup

lost owl
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hm, dmg is very similar but not the same

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this sc is probably better cause the other one has no synnergy for the A module

lost owl
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hey can u do me this favor? if u still have both mts, move the neutron tech out of supercharged for both of em and compare the dmg

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like, arrange em in same way (all 5 neutron techs) in both mts, out of sc slots

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so that we can compare their dmg, given they both have 483.3

lofty scaffold
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same arangement out of SG

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gimme a sec to move them back to staff :

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you, the pistol arangement is better

lost owl
lofty scaffold
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was painful, but for science! πŸ˜„

mint briar
lofty scaffold
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yeh, i should have reloaded on space station to get the machine gun version...

lofty scaffold
unique estuary
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Can the staffs be upgraded at multi tool stations in space stations?

grave venture
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They work just like any other MT

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But they’re cooler

unique estuary
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Nice

lost owl
pulsar charm
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W reddit

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lookin like the destiny exotic LOL

lofty scaffold
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imma go take the berries from 10 predators so they share my pain

peak plinth
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The atlas atlantids are cool lol
Very evil looking

tough remnant
lofty scaffold
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you reload the restore point

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over and over and over again

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buy, get in ship, get out, reload and so on

lost owl
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highest dmg ive got:

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with 3 x s-class mods with -50% charging speed, +14% dmg and +12% ion speed

mild parrot
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How the hell did you get that numbers

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Do you use X class ?

mint wing
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S

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And Neutron canon

lost owl
harsh ledge
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Today at 10 I found a sentinel multitool at a sentinel pillar, is the royal multitool still bugged?

lost owl
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charging speed seems to be what affects damage like this. even though practically it doesnt make that much difference once u already charge instantly

lost owl
harsh ledge
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ok thanks

mild parrot
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So what is this actual hit damage from this weapon?

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It is really 172K per hit?πŸ‘€

lost owl
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with my prev 146k dmg i could 3 shot corrupted sentinels. last shot needed a little more oomph to become a 2 shot

mint wing
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Its just damage "potential"

lost owl
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and ofc 1-shot sents from close to med distance

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ill go find a corrupted sentinel now to see if i can 2 shot it

mint wing
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Imo there is no much diffrence between 60k and 120k potential damage

lost owl
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yea, my dmg went from 147k to 172k only bc of adding a total -9% charging speed bonus

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makes no sense cause charging was instant already anyway, but im gonna test it

mint wing
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-9 but its also buffed by SC slots . Yes?

lost owl
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yea i meant my last configuration had 3 x 47% charging speed bonus, for a total dmg of 147k

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and now with 3 x 50% charging speed bonus (9% difference) i get a total dmg of 172k

lofty scaffold
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how many did you roll lol

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but its just a display thing, in reality it does like 3-4k dmg per shot

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some people did yt videos about the high damage and now everyone is on the hype train πŸ™‚

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in reality pulse spitter does way more dmage then nutron imo

mint wing
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Thats why its called damage "potential" not actual dmg

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Its just a thing for min-maxers and something to do in endgame

lofty scaffold
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yeh, its a good time waster πŸ˜„

lost owl
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yea but in my opinion its still the best weapon

lofty scaffold
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i get more kick when using pulse spitter

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you feel that you're doing some mayhem

lost owl
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i find that aoe more mayhem-like for my tastes πŸ˜„

mint wing
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Many likes boltcaster

lost owl
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esp vs swarm of biohorrors

lofty scaffold
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how many mods did you gamble?

lost owl
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around 70

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70-80

lofty scaffold
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now i'm triggered lol

mint wing
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Lol nice luck

lofty scaffold
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yeh i got nothing from 50

lost owl
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in total ive mustve burned through more than 200 neutron s class mods

mint wing
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I rerolled 300+ and still didint had max roll

lost owl
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mine is still not max, its 12 ion speed πŸ˜›

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but i think it doesnt affect total dmg count

lofty scaffold
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its funny cuz i got 180h on my save and 260h played on steam

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so 1/3 of my gameplay is rolling mods lol

lost owl
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mine its relatively much less πŸ˜›

lofty scaffold
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i just started playing exactly 2 weeks ago πŸ˜„

lost owl
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im from beyond

lofty scaffold
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i played it a bit on launch

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so i didn't quite start from 0

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had some knowledge

lost owl
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i ve taken a few breaks in these 4 years but not many, and not long ones

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its my main game

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cant explain it but its like a whole different genre by itself, i even play it when i dont feel like gaming

lofty scaffold
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i come from 11k hours of ARK lol

heavy mulch
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what's the current consensus of staff multitools slot/class generation?

lost owl
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the seed for staves is determined by the terminal used and headpiece selected

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each terminal provides different seed, even in same planet/system

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most likely it is its position that is factored in the seed

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other than that, the reroll glitch no longer works since last update

lofty scaffold
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oh, wanna get the pistol i got?

lost owl
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i have a rifle with 2x2 sc

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sent rifle i mean

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but since i got the staff, i now use it for mining

lofty scaffold
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i scrapped the staff

heavy mulch
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I see, because I was looking around on an old (4 years) discovered planet and I did notice that the same combinations of parts changed in both colors and class across various camps

lofty scaffold
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i don't like them at all

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glad i found a replacement lol

heavy mulch
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thanks for the clarification Dys

lost owl
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oh i love the staff. its my evolution

lofty scaffold
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oh

lost owl
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lemme show u

lofty scaffold
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can you do the build on the square one?

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to see how much dmg you get

lost owl
heavy mulch
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I love staves but I wish the first one I got wasn't so good.

lost owl
lofty scaffold
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i just search in the top right corner "milwaukeescott" πŸ™‚

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he's the god of multitools

heavy mulch
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L shaped supercharged slots - haven't found better yet but the appearance isn't great

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it matches the vibe though

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I went for all blue

lost owl
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im blue white black silver

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we have similar looks πŸ˜„

heavy mulch
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yeah it's same color scheme

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if I pull out the robo dog pet and sentinel drone friend it's complete

lofty scaffold
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oh, nice match

lost owl
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less than the staff! even with 2x2 sc

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ok im gonna remove everything to see its mining beam dmg

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it has 1242.8 with both mining beams, cant remove em 😐

lofty scaffold
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yeh 2x2 is realy bad

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it got trendy for some weird reason

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imo star formation is the best

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but nobody seems to care about them

mint wing
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Best SC layout depends on what weapon you use

lofty scaffold
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this i think is the best (did in paint)

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then all the mods synergise and get SC

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a 483 with this SC setup would be godlike for neutron cannon

floral salmon
onyx needle
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I've been having trouble finding a Royal Multitool, really like the look but every pillar has been kinda garbo, anyone know what's the best way to find them?

lofty scaffold
floral salmon
lofty scaffold
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probably some were found but ignored in favour of square setup or something

floral salmon
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yes all video i see is like name perfect layout supercharged but its in quare xD

lofty scaffold
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yeh lol

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i used this one, posted it early

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i think its better then L

floral salmon
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oh thats close

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to a lozenge

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how does sentinel mt work ? for supercharged slot ? like sentinel ship ? like c class have 1 random b class 2 random etc ?

lofty scaffold
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yeh

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and some can be hidden behind damaged slots

floral salmon
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then i guess ill jus try to find a nice b or c class xD 2 b class will be the same on the same planet right ?

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beside the 2 random slot

lofty scaffold
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i think each cabinet is its own thing

floral salmon
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oh 😦

lofty scaffold
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the design is the same on each planet

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still less horrible then the staves where you need to check 6 heads per cabinet

floral salmon
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oh yeah i gave up on staff and i dont like how you shot with them, a different animation would have been nice

lofty scaffold
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not a fan either, can only be grateful they have identical stats with sentinel mt πŸ™‚

floral salmon
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crap.... almost

pulsar charm
floral salmon
pulsar charm
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That thing is shit

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Lol

sharp steeple
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it has no weapons installed thats why. poor thing πŸ˜‚

floral salmon
sharp steeple
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Oh well. Still, those charged slot positions do make up for it id say

mint briar
dusky agate
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Does economic strength of a system influence the chances of higher tier multi tools?

ionic mortar
alpine fern
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Help me decide?

lofty scaffold
minor zodiac
lofty scaffold
alpine fern
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this is not helping XD

ionic mortar
lofty scaffold
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all 4 contribute to the middle one

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since they all share a side with it

mint wing
lofty scaffold
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here, i did a test with the most common arrangements

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star synergy is clearly higher then the rest

sour bramble
alpine fern
hybrid bridge
alpine fern
hybrid bridge
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In that case, definitely go with the reclaimed head. I have two staffs with both the radiant shard and reclaimed head, but the latter is purple and my Autophage has similar colours. I'm currently on the hunt for a completely runic black and purple, or indigo purple staff.

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The closest I found.

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The two main staffs.

alpine fern
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looking stylish

hybrid bridge
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I don’t like the reclaimed one with the runic core tbh.

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It looks weird, so I want to make a different one lol. Maybe a silver and red, so it looks Terminator-Esque.

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Purple Runic will be nice.

hybrid bridge
lost owl
lofty scaffold
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cuz now there's only one mod boosting the main weapon

lost owl
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that's weird, in my tests its always better with the A mod in supercharged...

lofty scaffold
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probably cuz SG boost its charge speed from 11 to 29

lost owl
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dunno, perhaps theres smth weird going on with that total dmg calculation

lofty scaffold
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i'm still star team lol

lost owl
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yea cant wait to try one

floral salmon
lofty scaffold
floral salmon
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stil havent find one 😦 with 35 echo locator

lofty scaffold
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you're teleporting to the station and upgrade the C B A ones?

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well some are obvious, if an SG is on the left and one far on the right

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that its a bad one

floral salmon
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no i save before and use save editor, then i load back

lofty scaffold
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oh

floral salmon
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that would take way too much nanite lol

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like 80000 per mt

lofty scaffold
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yeh, but reload after

floral salmon
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oh its faster that way i mean i can do it at the mt station then i load back so if its good i can upgrade it the legit wway

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and whiele i was doing that i found some nice interceptor xD

round jolt
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Hilbert Dimension

sturdy quarry
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Does HG know royal multitools are bugged right now? Last I checked nobody mentioned it on the subreddit, and it’s also just been a while since Echoes launched.

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Weren’t people also saying a patch from a couple weeks ago was supposed to fix it?

gleaming stream
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Should be included in the next patch for public branch

sturdy quarry
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Oh ok, good

sour bramble
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Budullangr (Galaxy #7)
portal4 portal0 portal5 portalc portal0 portal3 portal2 portal1 portalf portal6 portal9 portal7
+72.76, -166.26
S class white / orange claw staff
Pure yellow crystal (A class) and blue skull staff (B class)
White / pink focus staff

thorn moss
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Does anyone have locations for good multitools

mint wing
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High mining

lofty scaffold
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@lost owl @floral salmon got one, sadly 433, but at least we know they exist

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dmg is lower, but i guess cuz of 433?

lost owl
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yea base dmg does play a role

lofty scaffold
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i dont have a 433 square to test with

lost owl
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hm, 166k, looks like itd surpass 172k if it had 483.3 dmg

lofty scaffold
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packed both in paint for future reference, cross is better then square

mint wing
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I wonder now what stats would get T patern πŸ€”

lost owl
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yea im also curious if the cross is better than that new one they say its optimal, which is like:
SS
..S
S..

lofty scaffold
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oh boy, i'm tired, been hunting for a bunch of hours now

lost owl
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take it ez πŸ˜„

lofty scaffold
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and i still have to find a 483 cross πŸ˜„

mint wing
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Save editing would speed up the proces. Just editing in the stats, modules and sc paterns

lofty scaffold
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i don't wanna touch the save editor

lost owl
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yea my save is virgin too from outside influences

lofty scaffold
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i wanna stick to the in game stuff only

lost owl
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i use every glitch in the book, but no hack or mod or 3rd party stuff

lofty scaffold
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i only used the wire glitch to place refiners

floral salmon
lofty scaffold
floral salmon
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yup i tested mine on the same gun and same upgrade xD

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so far cross is the best

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i have the same result on my gun around 20k more dmg

lofty scaffold
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oh you found a cross one too?

floral salmon
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and like cross have 3k more than the "almost cross" one

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no i edit my gun xD then put it back to normal

lofty scaffold
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ok

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i'm trying to find a 483 now

floral salmon
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thats 50 ?

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i cant even find a cross one yet

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i skip the pistols too xD

lofty scaffold
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you can change them into machineguns if you reload on space station

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i'm searching staves now cuz i'm out of echoes πŸ˜„

floral salmon
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even if i reload on planet once ?

lofty scaffold
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it takes the appearence from where you reload last i think

floral salmon
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oh and i found out that theyre all the same but the random slot

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like i have a b class that the same 2 charged slot on that planet

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have*

floral salmon
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the time i use them they respawn

craggy cove
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Bla

lost owl
eager ruin
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@sour bramble is that in an euclid galaxy?

lofty scaffold
sour bramble
clear gyro
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Mines at like 2-3k

lofty scaffold
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S class mods

clear gyro
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I have multiple

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Yet at 2-3k on a staff

lofty scaffold
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this is with neutron cannon

clear gyro
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That is what I have, I’ll try out the T formation tho does it add bonus damage or something?

lofty scaffold
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you have supercharged slots grouped together?

clear gyro
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I fully don’t even know what that is or how you get supercharged slots

lofty scaffold
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the purple blue slots you can see in the image above

maiden loom
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So square SC is actually the worst? I thought it’s the best

clear gyro
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Are they just random on the gun or can you acquire those slots?

lofty scaffold
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random

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but even without them and with the mods placed random you should get bout 20k damage

clear gyro
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I have no idea how cos I swear I’ve literally got 2-3k damage potential with a s class staff & 3 canon mods

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I’ll keep trying tho

lofty scaffold
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post a screen shot with the weapon and the best mod

clear gyro
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I’m not even not rn won’t be till later

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I’ll send a dm later

grave venture
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I’ve managed to reach up to 16k without the neutron cannon

lost owl
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Starts as B but still had to post it, cause its so totally white!

lofty scaffold
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i think i'm doing something wrong, i went through like 100 staves so far and none of them were 483, all 433

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are they like super rare or something?

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been doing it in opulent systems

lost owl
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only s class may have 483. natural s class

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a staff that is upgraded even once will always have 433.3 dmg with mining beam at S class

lofty scaffold
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foreals?

lost owl
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that is my observation so far

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upgraded staves always have 433.3 at S class

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natural S staves have either 416.7 or 483.3

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ive never seen any other value than those 3, ever

lofty scaffold
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then i'v been wasting my time the whole day lol

lost owl
covert garnet
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is there any way to know the class bonus of a multi tool?

lofty scaffold
lost owl
lofty scaffold
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well i guess plan B is to farm echoes and hunt sentinel mts

lost owl
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ill keep on staff hunting

maiden loom
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Which one is more important for a good staff? 483 damage or good SC slots?

lost owl
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sc slots

maiden loom
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Ok, thanks!

lost owl
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though there are many good configurations

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dont dismiss any non 2x2 square sc layout

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it actually turns out that 2x2 is not even the optimal one, at least for neutron cannon

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any sc layout with 2 or 3 adjacent slots should be good enough

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but if u want the absolute best, it would have to be a naturally rolled S class with 483.3 dmg and cross sc layout

maiden loom
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Thank you so much

amber pawn
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@lost owl T-shape is optimal for Blaze, L-shape for Boltcaster, and incorrect - natural S is only relevant to classic MTs, Royals, Sentinel, and Atlantid MT dmg are entirely dependent on MT seed

lost owl
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whereas a naturally rolled S class staff may have either 416.7 or 483.3 dmg with mining beam only

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this suggests a difference in damage bonus

amber pawn
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@lost owl Ooh, I shall look into that, thank you. What I said stands for Royal + Sentinel, though

lost owl
lost owl
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but i have not experimented enough with them to be confident about it

amber pawn
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@lost owl Ive done testing on both personally, Royals are all upgraded to S and will hit 383.3 or 400.0 dependent on MT seed, and Ive seen Sentinels with 416.7, 433.3, 450.0, 466.7, and 483.3, both natural S and upgraded.

maiden loom
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I think I'll go for this one someone shared on reddit

lost owl
maiden loom
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i know square isn't the best, but I can't find a T or cross one that's red in color

amber pawn
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@lost owl I was specifically talking about royal and sentinel - I put a pin on staves until I can return with data from my own testing

lost owl
amber pawn
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As for your Neutron test image, Star SC is impossible in vanilla lol

lost owl
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oh, it is possible, a guy found one

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lemme give u a link

lofty scaffold
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well this means i can do a camp/minute, just land check all 7 heads and go for the next camp

lost owl
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oh hes typing as we speak

lost owl
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@lofty scaffoldhey where did u find this?

lofty scaffold
lost owl
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ninjaed u πŸ˜›

lofty scaffold
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i have a base on that plant if you wanna grab it, but its C, needs to be upgraded

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yeh, faster scroll πŸ˜„

lost owl
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@amber pawn i mention it cause Earl questioned its existence

amber pawn
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Actually, the issue was your image editing - it doesnt make clear that the center slot isnt SC πŸ˜› @lost owl

lost owl
lofty scaffold
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says my name in the image lol

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its totally legit, i had it in my hand

lost owl
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ofc the center slot would have to be non sc, otherwise there would be 5 of them

amber pawn
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Lol, I'm trying to catch up and respond in a timely fashion, excuse me for missing details. And yeah, thats why I called BS - the image appeared to have 5 SC slots

lofty scaffold
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i was too excited, didn't spent time to repair it all, wanted to post it asap

lost owl
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yea sry about that. but the point was that this configuration is better than any other! (at least from those tested so far)

amber pawn
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but 4 slot star shape I have no issue with, apologies for confusion

lofty scaffold
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yeh, its definitelly the best for neutron

lost owl
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not ddefinitely yet. we have to try that other one

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SS
S..
..S

river solar
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How much Parts of the staff exist in the game?

lofty scaffold
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think megan tested it

lost owl
lofty scaffold
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7 of each so 21

amber pawn
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I wont agree with that yet, but Im not gonna argue it either. Added to personal testing to-do list

lost owl
lofty scaffold
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oh

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well, the head are what matter to me

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never paied attention to the other parts

river solar
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Thx mates

lofty scaffold
lost owl
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but im also puzzled with this range of numbers. starts from 416.7, increments by 16.7 (rounding applies) to 433.3, 450, 466.6 and 483.3

lofty scaffold
lost owl
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and 483.3 is exactly 50 more than 433.3, which all upgraded staves get

lofty scaffold
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yeh, seems upgraded sentinel can be 483

lost owl
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and 50 is supposedly the max dmg bonus for staves

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but what is that 16.7 increment?

amber pawn
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@lost owl MT damage bonus isnt actually a strict percentage, it's tiers of damage, with a difference of 16.66666 between tiers, each covering a range of 5% in dmg bonus roll. So 25.00%-29.99% Dmg roll = 416.7 Dmg, 30.00%-34.99% = 433.3, etc

lofty scaffold
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pff

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wouldn't have figured it out in 100 years lol

lost owl
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so thats why they called a 416.7 a "29"

amber pawn
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Yep

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All MT types can theoretically hit 1 tier higher, ie a 450.0 Alien or 500.0 Staff, but since the % roll is precise to 16 decimal places, it's a trillion to one odds against ever discovering such a specimen. Hasnt happened yet for any MT type

lost owl
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so those with 483.3 dmg happened to have a %bonus between 45% and 49.99%, and so landed on the 483.3 tier?

lofty scaffold
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the unicorn mt πŸ™‚

amber pawn
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@lost owl Exactly

lost owl
amber pawn
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YW πŸ™‚

lost owl
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is such detailed data on seeds available somewhere?

amber pawn
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No, with a * - I think one may be able to use Mjstral's bot in an unintended manner to do so, but it'll take some legwork. Any chance you have some seeds close to the start of various dmg tiers? (as close to #0.00 or #5.00 as possible) @lost owl

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Oh wait

lost owl
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i cant even know the exact tiers :/

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the exact bonus i mean

amber pawn
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Yeah, and I realized as I was typing its more complicated than that - 3 items added to my list already, wonder how long thats gonna get by the time I finish catching up on Discord? 🀣

lost owl
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i should probably let u get on doing ur good work πŸ˜„

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looking forward to reading of ur findings

lofty scaffold
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yup, natural ones come 483

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pff, i can't believe i wasted like 8h for nothing πŸ˜„

lofty scaffold
odd fox
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Who had the staff named the Throngler?

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Because that was hilarious

amber pawn
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@lofty scaffold No thx, today I'm just catching up on Discord, I'll be spending my long weekend playing -got a whole Expedition to do before I get down to research lol

lost owl
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not confident 100% about this but it seems that tier-3 economies do increase odds of A and S class staves

lofty scaffold
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since we're at it, does it take you to a new camp every time you scan?

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cuz i have a feeling is not

lost owl
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sometimes it points me to the same camp

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but not if i scan from ship

amber pawn
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@lost owl Correct, procgen distributes cabinet classes using the same percentages as ship class rolls, so in a T3 star system, ~1 in 50 Minor Settlements will have an S Class cabinet. Just gotta remember that since its a procgen roll, the class at any given site is fixed.

lofty scaffold
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or we're wasting time looking for them

amber pawn
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SG? @lofty scaffold

lost owl
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i think he meant "can staves roll star/cross SCs

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without knowing, id guess that they can, since sentinel mts at least can, and it does not seem logical for a special exclusion to apply for staves

lofty scaffold
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SC, supercharged slots, sorry for mistype

lost owl
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i do get more As and Bs than Cs though... i think

amber pawn
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@lost owl Again, I'm being careful to avoid making any statements about/determinations on staves. The fact that theyre assembled leaves a lot of wiggle room.

lost owl
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yea that makes sense

lofty scaffold
lost owl
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im about to post my own find πŸ˜„

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Radiant Staff
Green on Green
Natural S Class
483.3 Damage

hoary gust
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silly little me i just found meself an s rank sentinal pistol from one of the pillars teehee! (never gonna fucking use it)

pulsar charm
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They look like a nail gun

amber pawn
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@pulsar charm Black n Decker power washer

amber pawn
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Thats what they look more like than a nail gun, imo lol

pulsar charm
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Oh

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Lol

pulsar charm
raw coral
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I just found an S Class multitool on my second outpost on my starting planet lol.

gaunt arrow
#

Anyone able to find a full radiant staff Red, with Purple crystals?

pulsar charm
chilly hillBOT
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@gaunt arrow

No stickers in this channel please

gaunt arrow
#

cool

obsidian forum
pulsar charm
obsidian forum
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Featured bases

gaunt arrow
pulsar charm
# gaunt arrow i am πŸ˜„

Ok perfect well I have one but it does not have a red shaft it does have a purple crystal with a dark grey shaft though

Btw the other parts don't matter they just fallow the color of the head

obsidian forum
amber pawn
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@obsidian forum Anyone with access to their console's MP service, last I checked. Featured bases dont show up for me on my bro in law's account because he doesnt subscribe to PS+

amber pawn
#

Agreed

obsidian forum
#

Why u logging in or ur bro in laws acc tho 🀨

gaunt arrow
amber pawn
#

because he doesnt play NMS so I sometimes use it to upload a 2nd base on planets πŸ™‚ @obsidian forum

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Also for testing purposes

obsidian forum
amber pawn
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@obsidian forum Only the most recently uploaded is visible to players outside your group

pulsar charm
gaunt arrow
amber pawn
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thx πŸ™‚

pulsar charm
obsidian forum
#

πŸ’€

tough aurora
#

Where is the location of the SC slots here?

mild parrot
#

What’s the ? Thing?

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I don’t see it in any crafting tables

mint briar
#

Witj supercharge the entire meta changed

gleaming stream
#

Correct that post was made before SC slots were introduced

gleaming stream
#

You pick up Salvaged Glass, you open it up, you can get a MT module

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Stats apply only to the Boltcaster

gleaming stream
#

Installing all tech under the sun does not make it the best

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Some of these tech modules aren't available in game and you'd need to use the save editor or mods to get them

amber pawn
#

@gleaming stream Ah, it's always a pleasant surprise to see someone else describe Craig's work thusly before I get a chance to πŸ˜‚

ionic mortar
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neutron cannon sucks

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130k damage but it sure as hell does not do 130k damage

gleaming stream
#

Its not damage, its more like DPS measure

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And it's skewed because of the absurd cooldown bonuses getting supercharged

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Nobody claims NC does so much damage

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It was a situational weapon before, got buffed for Singularity expedition to deal with Sentinels

tacit pollen
#

@gleaming stream

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This worth to upgrade?

lofty scaffold
#

save, upgrade it, see if it has good supercharged slots and base damage, if not reload

tacit pollen
#

3k

lofty scaffold
#

that is not base damage

lofty scaffold
#

you need to uninstall everything except the mining beam to see the base damage

lofty scaffold
#

if this is your current MT then yeh, the sentinel one should be an upgrade πŸ™‚

zinc finch
#

Is there like a webiste where people post the best multitools? Im looking for a good atlantid one but want to see what options i have.

tacit pollen
lofty scaffold
lofty scaffold
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you can do the same @tacit pollen and go grab a nice S class

tacit pollen
#

I don't have glyphs yet for portals

lofty scaffold
#

oh

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then stick with the B one till then

tacit pollen
lofty scaffold
#

either kill a lot of sentines, then open the glass they drop and sell the modules for nanites, or find a curious deposit (but this is a bit more complicated)

tacit pollen
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@lofty scaffold I have crap ton of punguniem and platinum

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So should I just refine them for nanites

mint wing
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Buy sus packets . Open then. Sell upgrade modules

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Cook food and stuff cronus

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Refine tainted metal

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Many ways to make nanites

lofty scaffold
#

or if you're more of an explorer you can scan all the fauna on a planet and get a bunch of nanites from the bonus

tacit pollen
#

Like where?

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I know you get from pirates

lofty scaffold
#

yeh on outlaw stations

mint wing
#

You can buy them on pirate stations

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And from killing pirates

tacit pollen
#

And what currency he will take?

lofty scaffold
#

the one that sells the illegal stuff, currency units

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they look like this

tacit pollen
#

Like where he will be in the station?

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I can't find him

lofty scaffold
#

near the missions guy, near the exosuit upgrade

mint briar
#

Also best way to farm nanite

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I need to fuel my Xmod addiction

zinc finch
#

When im upgrading slots for my multitool, should i use the upgrade first or will the unit count increase for when i use units? So should i buy some with units first or doesnt it matter?

mint briar
#

If it's getting beyond like3 mil creds

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Switch to the slot

zinc finch
#

ok, thanks!

zinc finch
lofty scaffold
#

i only use slots, i never payed

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you can scrap other tools to get slots from them

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S give 3 slots

mint briar
#

Usually if you start out with a good S tier tool already

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Just use the slot

zinc finch
#

ahh thanks. Also, i want to unlock a position becuase i know it will become supercharged, but i can't select it.

mint briar
#

If you for some weird reason wanna raise your Ctier multitool to S

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Yeah

zinc finch
#

atlantid S class

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why cant i take screenshots in the game??

lofty scaffold
#

i need to do it twice to work

zinc finch
#

it just takes a screenshot of discord lol

lofty scaffold
#

or use Alt+Windows Key+S

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oh, i play in window borderless

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fullscreen gave me trouble

zinc finch
#

I'll just do this lol

#

but the position my mouse cursor is, is the slot that will get supercharged, but i cant click it

lofty scaffold
#

click Apply Upgrade Circuit

zinc finch
#

But i need it here

lofty scaffold
#

hm, maybe you need to get the slots till there

zinc finch
#

ohh that is gonna cost a lot...

lofty scaffold
#

or just reload, maybe its a glitch

zinc finch
#

still cant choose it. Cant scroll. think ill have to unlock the others first :(

lofty scaffold
#

you can get slots from quests

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or from scraping other mts

zinc finch
#

well atleast ill have something to do lol. But thanks for the help

lofty scaffold
#

yw

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or go on the Anomaly and ask for slots πŸ™‚

grave venture
#

gonna have to go with square'

zinc finch
#

Yeah, well atleast i have something good, got something to grind for.

lofty scaffold
#

you know atlantid are good for mining and sentinel and staff are for damage right?

zinc finch
#

Yea, this going to be my mining. Then ill get a staff for damage

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Also, what deternimes the laser color of the weapon? I think it changed after i installed upgrades

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And i installed a mining beam and a runic lens lol, does it change anything? not the color whent from cyan to green

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Bruh i cant uninsall it, should i reload my save?

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I reloaded it, i think the mining beam did give extra damage

lofty scaffold
#

yeh it does

zinc finch
#

Alright, ill reinstall it!

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140 before
332 after
WOW!

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now 340 with better positioning. Gonna grab some s class upgrades now

lofty scaffold
#

put the Optical Drill on supercharged slot for extra resources πŸ™‚

pulsar charm
#

Nope nothing changed and you haven't been baited because I find S class more often in outlaw systems you probably have bad luck my friend

lost owl
#

This is natural S class with 416.7 base dmg and worst sc layout, but with max mods. So this is the minimum damage (worst base dmg and sc layout) if u make the most out of it

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so any staff (and sentinel mt id guess) can reach 129k dmg with neutron cannon and properly placed maxed mods

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nevermind that, found another one with also 416.7 dmg and worst sc, but for some reason it has less damage with the exact same mods:

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and btw, those 2 were found on same planet. same headpiece, same class (natural S), same base dmg (416.7), very similar sc layout... hmmm...

lofty scaffold
#

seems you had the same luck as me, i've been getting staves like this all day long, nothing even close to useful

proud spindle
#

I have 4 slots next to each other and I 2-3 shot corrupted drones

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So not really

lost owl
dense lodge
#

Look what I found O:

lost owl
#

thats so pretty!

proud spindle
#

Neutron cannon

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My bad forgot to say my weapon 😭

sullen karma
#

my first staff, yay

surreal heath
#

atlantid tools look like those weird triangle rifles right

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where do I find them? I've been scouting out monoliths but I'll I got is a regular C class rifle one

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oh I just looked at the pinned

surreal heath
#

oh both tools need you to complete the artemis questline to obtain? blegh

lofty scaffold
#

and then the autophage questline

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but they are not time gated like the living ship, so if you stick to them you can finish pretty fast

surreal heath
#

hm

eager lichen
surreal heath
#

so how do I sell or scrap an old multitool, I got a bunch of damaged free rifles

eager lichen
#

there is a terminal close to the portal in the anomaly

surreal heath
#

Terminal prime? does nothing for me at the mo

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oh no wait found it

kindred citrus
#

First time finding a cool multitool that isnt basic.

dense lodge
#

The fourth supercharger is right next to the bottom one, making it a square. Just gotta upgrade it to S class >_>

lofty scaffold
#

39k nanites to go πŸ™‚

dense lodge
dense lodge
#

S Class multi-tool with great supercharger slots, up for grabs gamers c: Really cool style too.

amber pawn
#

@deep matrix Atm, Royal spawns are broken

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They were literally zeroed in the Pillar probability table somehow

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@deep matrix FYI, the Scan stat can be ignored, as it doesnt actually affect anything that matters where scanning tech is concerned. It doesnt boost the visor in any way, shape, or form, nor have any effect on payouts

rancid sleet
dense lodge
#

Joker-themed rifle multi-tool up for grabs

marble ore
#

Whats the highest base damage for a staff?

cobalt aurora
#

im at the system but its purple

dense lodge
#

Like reading a book. Left to right, then the next line left to right.

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C:

zinc finch
#

The image above is how it looks like

mint wing
devout ridge
#

Do Atlantean MTs keep their nanite value when claimed? Like if I trade it later for a better one I can spend less?

eager lichen
#

Is possible for atlantid multi-tools to generate with white as base color and black as secondary? I just have seen white and gold/yellow

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Also with a purple orb

sullen karma
#

I know this is a dumb question but I need some help.
What do I do when I put together another staff and it turns out worse than what I have rn? do I sell the parts befoe assembly and get another staff?

devout ridge
sullen karma
#

oh, so the other two parts are just cosmetic?

devout ridge
#

I think so, yea

sullen karma
#

thx man

devout ridge
#

Because I found a shitty C-class as my first

lofty scaffold
#

oh, so like to get a discount on the next one?

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no idea, i never exchagend atlantid mts between themsleves

devout ridge
#

Ok

lofty scaffold
#

and so day 3 begins for the hunt of the ultimate mt πŸ˜„

sacred leaf
#

how long did that take to collect?

lofty scaffold
#

bout 4h

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on an average 10 per hour

ionic mortar
#

seems low

lofty scaffold
#

i'm very opened for sugestions, i found it low too

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shooting mirror things with my ship in outlaw systems

boreal obsidian
#

Whenever I need locators that's what I do, either in outlaw systems or by hitting the sentinel tower before, the free loot from shooting the containers from the dead sentinels around the mirror things is a nice bonus as well

floral salmon
#

a lot faster

lofty scaffold
#

i was thinking on placing a base where i find 3 of them clumped up, and then just teleport from base to base

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gonna try later

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how fast do they respawn?

floral salmon
#

hmm i dont know, iknow the time i use the 30 they respawn

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internet says 12 hour

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i didnt even found a cross yet

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i think ill settle for the other pattern lol

lofty scaffold
#

imma keep searching a bit more, even though i kinda lost all hope lol

floral salmon
#

xD

lofty scaffold
#

oh, you got that combo

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nice

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i wanna see the stats after you make it

floral salmon
#

yes was pretty easy on that planet the random slot is the one you see

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i got 2 like that with 28 attempt

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this one almost perfect dmg

amber pawn
#

@lofty scaffold Duping Echo Locators would be much quicker - I stopped scouting tech on my main so I could use exploits/edits/etc for pure research and scouting

floral salmon
lofty scaffold
#

pff, now it sent me to a location i already was....

amber pawn
#

Fair, I did it for years, but Im getting old and lazy, lol

floral salmon
lofty scaffold
sacred leaf
#

so i was reading the pin about finding Atlantid multitools, and its mention about the design changing on reload sometimes

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is this just sheer coincidence on my end, or is this exactly like other multitools where the design you get is based on the planet you loaded your save from?

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i switched planets, reloaded, and got a different design

amber pawn
#

@sacred leaf Thats exactly whats going on

sacred leaf
#

ok, was just confused at why the explanation described it as not being understood

amber pawn
#

@sacred leaf Wait, just read it myself, its not that simple

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Yeah I need to look at this ingame, and see whats happenin myself

raw tendon
#

what defines the energy colour of a staff Multitool?

lofty scaffold
#

i think i need to leave save beacons in the camps i visited, to make it easier to spot if it sends me to a visited one

sour bramble
raw tendon
floral salmon
lofty scaffold
#

oh hot damn

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i wasn't expecting such a big jump

floral salmon
#

yes goodbye arc analyzer xD

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i scrapped my atlantis multitool by misake lol 😦

#

or excahnge it

#

they dont respawn right ?

#

once you claim it ?

lofty scaffold
#

i think they respawn once a day or something

#

meanwhile all i'm getting is junk like this

floral salmon
#

πŸ˜’

#

want the glyph ?

#

for bane of harmony

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my freighter still there

lofty scaffold
#

keep it, if i don't find anything, i'm gonna want it πŸ™‚

#

got the coords and all? store a screenshot somewhere

floral salmon
#

k ill go take a screenshot

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i dont have the coord but it should be easy to find a good one

lofty scaffold
#

theoretically all the cabinets are unique

floral salmon
#

hmm not for me

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all the c class had the ame 3 supercharged

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and 1 random

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same*

lofty scaffold
#

hm

floral salmon
#

i think sentinel mt follow the same rules as interceptor

lofty scaffold
#

i say its lost forever πŸ˜„

floral salmon
#

here i upgraded a random c i got still the same 3 supercharged

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eissentam if you want to try your luck xD

lofty scaffold
#

cool cool

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found one on my planet but 433 😦

floral salmon
#

probably better than square xD

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square with max dmg i mean

#

ahhh, multi tool dont respawn 😦

lofty scaffold
#

is there a mt upgrade station on outlaw station?

floral salmon
#

no idea

#

did someone test supercharged slot for mining and scanner ?

lofty scaffold
#

i have a supercharged atlantid mining mt and its very good

#

got a scanner too,

floral salmon
#

yes the one i jjust found is L shape

lofty scaffold
#

scanner just gets more units

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and for miner there's no visual data for it πŸ™‚

floral salmon
#

kk it does not affect the range

lofty scaffold
#

there's no "Potential Mining"

#

yeh scanning range is capped at 400u i think

floral salmon
#

anyway i dont really need units xD

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but when i build a base a mining tools is always useful xD

lofty scaffold
lofty scaffold
#

the echo scouting thing is so broken, it literally marked the base where i was at

dense lodge
rotund pumice
#

showing stuff you've already found with a chart/echoe

floral salmon
tacit pollen
#

I got this B to A (upgrade)

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so i was farming in my mould farm

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It was giving me 2780 mould

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Where as with normal one it was 3020

#

I was using the resource thing and it was super charge in both cases

turbid forum
#

both

tacit pollen
#

Both were rifles

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Anyone?

#

Please answer my question

grave venture
#

Different types of rifles?

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Different base stats?

lofty scaffold
#

if you could at least remember the region or something

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not that i know how to find a region lol

tacit pollen
#

Which you typically buy from shop

tacit pollen
grave venture
#

Probably different base stats

tacit pollen
#

Mods were exact same

grave venture
#

Or it could just be something as simple as different tech layout

tacit pollen
#

Just to mention

tacit pollen
grave venture
#

I don’t know

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And no need to ping me in every message I’m right here

lofty scaffold
#

sentinel are bad at mining, atlantid are for mining

clear gyro
#

Yo what is the alantid multi tool? Anybody got pictures

lofty scaffold
#

something like this

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@amber pawn is there a way to find a specific mt if you only know the planet?

amber pawn
#

@lofty scaffold Sure, process of elimination

lofty scaffold
#

pff, i presume there are hundreds on a planet?

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i'm talking bout sentinel mt btw

floral salmon
#

because i always get the same 3 spot for supercharged and 1 random on c class on all planet when i reload

lofty scaffold
#

i did not

#

like reload on the planet?

floral salmon
#

yes

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get to the station then reload

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i reload after each station when i get the multitool to put it back in the station if its not the one i want too

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i dont know if that matters

lofty scaffold
#

i went with multiplayer off

floral salmon
#

same, i was offline when i got this one

#

i dont know what it changes but all the video i see say to put offline before getting multitool xD

lofty scaffold
#

if you go offline you find the planet like it was never visited

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or something like that

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got 14 echoes left, imma spend them there, maybe i find it maybe i dont πŸ˜„

floral salmon
#

good luck πŸ˜‰

lofty scaffold
#

you don't remember a region name or something?

floral salmon
#

no πŸ˜’

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i never look at that

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and i think ? if im on permadeath, the camp are not at the same pspot no ?

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like the planet is different

lofty scaffold
#

no idea

floral salmon
#

you got the same mt at leats ? i mean the bane of harmony

lofty scaffold
#

they are all called that

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yeh

floral salmon
#

well if that help, when the locator was sending me a previously visited location i kept going south lol πŸ˜’ took me 28 echo to find 2 with that pattern

lofty scaffold
#

i have no idea which way is north and south πŸ˜„

floral salmon
#

theres is like a compass lol

peak plinth
#

They have the icons on the compass at the top of the screen… but honestly I have to spin like mad finding them because East and West apparently doesn’t exist

floral salmon
#

i dont understand why like no one posted video with these 2 pattern(cross and the other one)

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when its clearly superior to square

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for neutron

lofty scaffold
#

oh, this thing? πŸ˜„

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cuz square looks fancier πŸ˜„

floral salmon
#

🧭

#

i want my cross mt lol xD

#

but i was going crazy trying to find one lol

amber pawn
#

@floral salmon Because that has changed wirh pretty much every major update since Neutrons release.

lofty scaffold
#

pff, another fake one 😐

floral salmon
#

ah i remember this one πŸ˜‰

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i got a square one too

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i was like og so close

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omg*

lofty scaffold
#

can there be more then one mt with the same sc pattern on a planet?

floral salmon
#

yes

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its just luck i guess

#

there is so many camp

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so many c class xD

amber pawn
#

@lofty scaffold Sure, but i wouldnt try to finda twin config

#

inneficient use of scouting time

lofty scaffold
floral salmon
#

is there a way to get the location(coord) with the seed ? or the seed does not afftec supercharged slot ?

amber pawn
#

@lofty scaffold Simple - I wouldnt. Id keep checking cabinets til I began hiting repeats and then move on - I only scout a place until the rate of spawns I check starts to slow

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Aint like Im gonna run out of planets to toss away, half-eaten XD

lofty scaffold
#

yeh, but there's a good mt on this planet πŸ˜„

floral salmon
#

then i found it

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pole*

lofty scaffold
#

so i should go to the south pole?

amber pawn
#

@lofty scaffold Then my 1st response was right - process of elimination. +(leaving a save beacon at each to keep track)

floral salmon
#

that i rmeberber

lofty scaffold
#

yeh but we're limited to 5 beacons aparently πŸ˜„

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per planet

floral salmon
#

yup

#

but it always like 3-4 camp

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then you get a visited one

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when that happen i went south

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then i hit the south pole

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then that happen like 3-4 time again

#

well if you dont get it with the echo remainnig you have just put a base so you can port to the last camp you did

#

you will get it eventually

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;P

lofty scaffold
#

i'm 100% i wont lol

floral salmon
lofty scaffold
#

wanna go on my cross planted and look for a 483 cross? πŸ˜„

floral salmon
#

pretty sure you have more chance to get that supercharged in that 4th slot first rank than like

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getting a s class

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in a 2 start

floral salmon
#

i never found a cross, a 483 would be godly lol

#

pretty sure i would hit like 190-195k dmg

#

ill test it xD

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jim curious

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im*

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only 4000 mor dmg

#

not worth it xD

#

189k

lofty scaffold
#

this game hates me

#

466 😦

floral salmon
#

thats still good lol

#

keep this one

#

you should get around 180k dmg

#

175k-180k

#

wait ill test

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with my tec

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and 466

#

tech

lofty scaffold
floral salmon
#

178074

lofty scaffold
#

πŸ˜„

floral salmon
#

yup

lofty scaffold
#

horrible

floral salmon
#

what xD

#

youre crazy

#

xD

#

i eman everything will die 1 shot 178k or 185 k lol

lofty scaffold
#

nope cuz its fake damage:)

floral salmon
#

i just did a pillar

#

the big one died in 4 shot

#

with the paralyze

#

in permadeath *

#

well i eman

#

you could go back trying to find

#

the cross one xD

#

with perfect dmg

#

xD

lofty scaffold
#

lemme give you coords to my cross

floral salmon
#

what ?

#

you found one ?

#

not thepistol right ?

#

the 433 ?

lofty scaffold
#

yeh

floral salmon
#

why would i want that xD

lofty scaffold
#

you reload on space station if you want the machinegun

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and search for 483 one there πŸ™‚

floral salmon
#

but its 433 i dont think it will be better ?

lofty scaffold
#

while i find your 483 lol

floral salmon
#

oh

#

nope

#

im done

#

xD

lofty scaffold
#

gl πŸ˜›

floral salmon
#

how was the dmg ?

lofty scaffold
#

lower the these

#

remeber you're not gonna do it for you or me, but for the community! the greater good πŸ˜„

floral salmon
#

ill just go build a base instead

#

xD

#

im one jump away from the 11th galaxy, ill go build a build in those cylinder terrain somewhere there

lofty scaffold
#

i wish there was a group of professional searchers, to help us find these

floral salmon
#

base*

lofty scaffold
#

gave you screen with coords too

floral salmon
#

honestly im tired of multi tool hunting lol the like 3 last time i played, i only did that 30 echo each time

#

its boring xD

floral salmon
lofty scaffold
floral salmon
#

what xD

#

and 433

#

πŸ˜’

lofty scaffold
#

oh, and after reload it turned into bane of harmony

#

i don;t understand these mechanics

floral salmon
#

oh you leave the system ?

#

yes when you leave the system it gos back to the first one

lofty scaffold
#

oh, cuz i went to get you the coords

floral salmon
#

you should try to find a cross one instead

#

πŸ˜‰

lofty scaffold
#

i'm down to 3 echoes

digital hull
#

Sentinel multi tools always have the same design?

#

I found like 5 already with the same pistol deisgn, albeit different names. Or I am buggered

amber pawn
#

@digital hull Theres 2 designs

proper crane
#

guys

#

i lost my s mt cos im stoopid

#

i was dooing echo thingy camps and collected 6 mts

#

can anyone provide me with s sentinel/experimental with good sg slots?

digital hull
marble ore
#

found this one today.

#

not the greatest supercharged slots I dont think. but its in the space station

#

yea im working on getting a staff atm, but one with 3 or 4 super slots close

#

just stumbled upon this one in a space station.

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usually I'm not either, but there isn't really any other end game atm 🀣

dense lodge
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So close to the funny number

bold crypt
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damn that staff looks hella clean

lucid jolt
pulsar charm
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How the hell to people get so much dmg in mts I can never get sc slot placement that is good enough

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Especially on a staff

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It's nearly impossible

blazing blaze
lucid spoke
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How do I get the staff?

lucid spoke
dense lodge
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Oh, do they not effect it? Thank you for letting me know

dense lodge
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I mean,they are lighting up

lucid spoke
dense lodge
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I am so close to the funny number

pulsar charm
dense lodge
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An L for Superchargers, don't know where the last one is, but here is this nerf gun style multi-tool

hollow cedar
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Does it matter in what order to you put the upgrades? Like if you have +10% in damage and +20% in damage does it matter in what order fo you install them?

amber pawn
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If Im understanding Q correctly, then no, order isnta factor

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Relative Positioning has a much more dramatic effect

pulsar charm
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Not my finds I found them on Reddit both are in Euclid galaxy and are very good

pulsar charm
grave venture
dense lodge
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I didn't know that they only effected Boltcaster. Once I learned that I removed em.

grave venture
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Ok, just making sure you’re not wasting tech slots

dense lodge
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Correct. I'm wondering what I should put instead. I've got all my scanner mods, all my neuro cannon mods. I'm thinking of putting a second weapon on it.

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I'm gonna remove geocannon, move the visors to the right and put a weapon on those six free slots.

dense lodge
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I haven't even unlocked all the slots yet, Jeez. This thing is gonna be ridiculous.

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I was thinking Javelin. I hear the DPS is insane.

grave venture
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Boltcaster gets pretty insane with all the upgrades too

dense lodge
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I also think it's hot holding a big metal stick that charges up and shoots like a sniper. #weebstuff

grave venture
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Lol

dense lodge
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"You've made me use my ultimate attack!" Big metal stick starts glowering bright red at the tip. "W-What the hell are you doing?" "I'm finna blast."

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Hahaha

gray rose
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is going for an S class multi tool worth in expedition (i dont even have one on my main)

rancid lotus
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finally found a staff i like that matches my traveler's colors
only c class so im in for a long nanite grind

digital hull
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if you take a multi tool out of its box, that box will never spawn a tool again? Or just after a long time?

vagrant linden
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is that good for someone who just startet or to many damaged slots?

boreal obsidian
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I mean, you can always find multitools in other places, but it is free and can hold you over for as long as you need it to. If you want to repair it, that isn't a bad process, and since last patch they gave us the ability to salvage multitools, taking it for that alone could also be useful.

vagrant linden
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oh nice

slender bay
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Euclid no post warp reload

dusky yarrow
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First I came to ask Can we have more than one Staff? And I hear a lot about salvaging multi tools but haven't seen where to do this

grave venture
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And for the other new MT type, Korvax Monoliths have a new terminal that you feed atlantideum to

lofty scaffold
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@floral salmon heya, the madness continues lol, i finally understood how the planets work, i hit south pole, now i'm heading north, do you remember how many camps you went north?

floral salmon
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and i went north a little after each repeat

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but thinking of that

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theres no way to know the longitude i was

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so even if youre in the south pole you maybe not at the same spot as me

lofty scaffold
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yeh, but thought i could get the aprox latitude from how many camps you went north, then go all around the longitude of that