nms-multitools

[amber pawn]

@tired remnant You keep checking cabinets until you have 5 different combos of model + class.

[tired remnant]

Madness, thank you for your answers

[tired remnant]

So there is always 4 per planet?

Per pool*

So reasonable setup would be a cabs with warps + each planet with warp?

I don't need S cab to get them all right?

[amber pawn]

@tired remnant 2-4 per pool

And no S Cab needed

[crisp rampart]

I’m not sure how MT hunting works. But found this S MT in Hicanpaav, Outlaw system at the station

System name is Donnes (Hicanpaav Galaxy)

[tired remnant]

got it thank you, so for 2-3 star system how many cabs to i need to setup? I'm confused with the extra cabs for extra tools as there is no good way to know if the pool have 2 tools of the same class?...

[amber pawn]

@tired remnant You need 4 cabinets minimum, because a pool can have 4 different models

[tired remnant]

okey so lets say I have 3 star system. And I will find A, B, C cabs... so what would be the extra one? since I have no idea what the pool looks like. Lets say the pool have 2 B tools. Does that means I will get the second B tool sent to the second B cab? Or there is only a chance?

Alright I think I will leave it at 4 for now, and just keep track of what I find so it would be more clear to me

finding possible hidden tools seems like a lot of extra work for less results for now

what is a good format to submit my results?

[amber pawn]

@tired remnant I definitely dont recommend going through all of this just for something to do. It is a lot of extra work for little gain aside from completionism, finding 3 cabinets for A, B, and C Class, you're going to clear better than 80% of all models available in systems, the only reason I care to do it is because I want to find Alien MTs with the best SC layouts for both Boltcaster and Pulse Spitter/Blaze Javelin, and I believe that it'll be easier to do that with an upgraded B Class than find a natural S.

[tired remnant]

I mean its not even clear what % it would be with 3 cabs. it depends on the pool. But yeah I rather move on to the next system and do it again. It is something to do for me I just see this as work intensive for the potential 20% at best

thanks for your input I think im ready now 😄

[tired remnant]

@amber pawn so I found 4 MTs on the planets pool with 2xC, B and A cabs. Now I'm doing System Pool against same cabs and so far I have only found this. Is this all it have?

I've checked it against 2 A cabs and 2 B cabs as well

Note: the system have only 2 planets

[amber pawn]

So you found 4 MTs on the first planet's pool?

Each planet has a separate pool

[tired remnant]

yes so far I have 4 on one, 2 in syste and 3 on another planet

i checked everything against 2 cabs of each class

[amber pawn]

@tired remnant As long as you identify all 4 models in any pool, you know for a fact that those cabinets are showing you every model for every pool 😄

[tired remnant]

thanks god for that and thank you

i guess im done with this one then

too back i didn't saved the coords for the cabs

im looking for a good way to share screenshots now

[amber pawn]

@fickle badger Here's what all 6 pools in your system spawn from the pillars on planet 2 (the address you gave). I believe your confusion may be from a pillar you found on another planet insystem that spawns regular MTs.

[tired remnant]

im looking at the regular tools

not pillars

what is the point of the pillars? royals?

[amber pawn]

Wasnt directed at you lol

[tired remnant]

oh sorry

didn't noticed

[amber pawn]

And yes, 15% of planets with pillars spawn royal models

[tired remnant]

do royals spawn in regular cabs?

[amber pawn]

Only place they can be acquired

Nope

[tired remnant]

got it, so check every planets pillar too? 😄

[amber pawn]

If it has them. I just dupe Sentinel Boundary maps so I can trigger one on each planet insystem while scouting the regular MTs

Not every planet has pillars

[tired remnant]

can u dupe them with refiners?

[amber pawn]

Charts dont always find one on the same planet youre at, there is a small chance there actually are pillars there and it missed, but it's less than 10% so I dont waste time trying to be sure, I just check the planets the charts point at

And yes, anything that fits in an item slot is dupe-able

[tired remnant]

all the royals look the same?

i looks like there is only a color difference

[crisp rampart]

Are pillar Royals always class C? That’s all I’ve ever seen

[amber pawn]

Yes, as well as procgen names, and 1 important feature that isnt obvious; Royals arent locked to low tier damage when upgraded to S Class, with only unupgraded Mining Beam installed, they can hit 383.3 or 400.0 when they hit S Class. It's based on MT seed, and as far as I've seen ~1 in 3 rolls high damage.

@crisp rampart No, they can spawn up to A Class.

[tired remnant]

how do I get my first pillar map?

[amber pawn]

Killing Sentinels for loot, charts are a random drop from the Glass Shards

[tired remnant]

alright time to kick some glass

[tired remnant]

is there a point to check multiple pools against the pillar cab? Like if one pool doesn't have royal can others have it?

[amber pawn]

@tired remnant Nope, all royal or no royal

[tired remnant]

so pillar on another planet in the same system can give different result?

[amber pawn]

Yep

[tired remnant]

got it thanks

[fickle badger]

No they were definately on the same planet. My first new multitool was the pistol I got from the pillar before I even went to a new planet. I found the exotic later after being pointed to a pillar after killing wave 5.

I am sure the pistol was pre-Waypoint.

[blissful sedge]

But yo DHarhanWulf there can be 2 separate pillar pools per planet. Some times.

[amber pawn]

@blissful sedge Gonna need evidence to believe that, when I was testing, I located 6-10 pillars on 5 different planets and never came across a planet that could spawn both types from pillars.

[blissful sedge]

Both types?
I mean pools. Like if you find multiple pillars on one planet it is possible for there to be 2 separate pools.
Mostly this happens on prime planets. (Planets that were altered or added in from updates to the base game)

You need to try the same test you did on multiple systems not just planets.

[fickle badger]

My guess for my issue is that either Waypoint rerolled my pillars or I had a glitch.

[amber pawn]

@blissful sedge I did test with prime planets, and what actually happens is you get 1-2 exact duplicate royal spawns

The Inertial Entangler spawned for both Ralind's pool and Brenvix's

[blissful sedge]

I went looking for some tools during a recent expedition. And during my expedition I found these tools from a pillar, and upon further searching I found a separate set of tools at the same pillars in the same system.

I found 0 royal tools in this system. All of these tools can be found at a pilla, and besides these tools I have shown above there is another set of tools from pillars

But they were kinda bad looking to me so I didn't bother searching them out.

[lusty fractal]

What's a royal tool?

[blissful sedge]

It's a style of tool

[lusty fractal]

Ok

[blissful sedge]

All different styles get these buffs to their stats

[lusty fractal]

Does it have like bits of gold on it like the exotic starships?

[blissful sedge]

It can. Gold or silver

[lusty fractal]

Ok

I'll have to try to find one later

[blissful sedge]

Here are all of them

[lusty fractal]

WOW

Those look amazing

[blissful sedge]

Also I checked all these locations to be sure they are still accurate. And as of the start of polestar they are still. 👍

[blissful sedge]

Also as you may be able to tell from the pictures I found these same tools at cabinets which had them at A class, the pillars I found had them at B class, so I only included the information for the A class ones.
But you can go here yourself and see exactly what I found. 2 separate pools in the pillars.

[lusty fractal]

Ok

Thx

🙂

[blissful sedge]

Um just to clarify those royal tools are all B or C class.

[lusty fractal]

Oh

[blissful sedge]

The message I sent a sec ago about A class and B class tools was directed towards DHarhanWulf about the above conversation

[lusty fractal]

I'll just use 25 decades of time to upgrade one to s class

Shouldn't take long

[blissful sedge]

Lol you need nanites?

[lusty fractal]

Nah I got plenty

Oh btw I have found an S class explorer

I have the title

But I think I accidentally scrapped the ship

[blissful sedge]

Station? Trading port? Crashed?
Do you have the glyphs?

[lusty fractal]

All of them

I went to the glyph system

[blissful sedge]

You found the S class explorer at the station, a trading post, and in a crashed state?
And you have the glyphs location for where you found the ship?

[lusty fractal]

No I meant I only have all the glyphs

I don't know the portal cords for it either

I think I was in a gek system

[blissful sedge]

Whenever you make a cool discovery you want to go into photo mode.
This shows the glyphs for your current planet in the bottom left. Also if you find a sentinel pillar or a crashed ship its also helpful for other players to have the planetary coordinates. Which you can find by using the analysis visor. It's shown in the top left.

[lusty fractal]

I'll make sure to do that next time

[blissful sedge]

Then it's lost to space bro.

[lusty fractal]

Oof

WAIT

It was in a space station

I could go through all my visited stations until I find the right one

[blissful sedge]

Like 1% of the entire game has been explored by all players combined since it's release.

If you have a short list that's possible. But as for me. I have discovered like 200+ systems at this point.

[lusty fractal]

I have discovered probably 100 systems

So it shouldn't take long

I'll check all the 3 star ones

But I have to wait till school is done before I can start

[blissful sedge]

Alright well man good luck to you. Also if you make any cool finds post them in the appropriate channels 👍

Also since you are gonna go back and check for ships and multitools remember 2 things.

There are 21 different ships per each system always.
The class of the tool in a cabinate is the important thing. Because the class means that's the cabinate class and all tools found in that cabinate will be that class or up or down 1 class. (Reloading from different planets shows different tools in same cabinate)

[lusty fractal]

👍

[spice shuttle]

if it was in a space station, it wasnt crashed, meaning it was (probably) just luck that you got an s class. unless it was in the first wave

[lusty fractal]

Im pretty sure it was in the first wave

[spice shuttle]

ah

then nvm

[tired remnant]

@amber pawn this post says 5... is this outdated? https://www.reddit.com/r/NMSCoordinateExchange/comments/dm1rs9/multitool_spawning_mechanics_revised_guide_for/

@amber pawn if any of those help you

[blissful sedge]

This is awesome. The fact the super slots can be different like this is incredible

[amber pawn]

@blissful sedge You missed the entire gist of what I was saying. Pillars on the same planet can spawn Royals or regular MTs, and no pillar will ever spawn some of both.

[tired remnant]

@amber pawn how do you deal with tons of warps in your menu?

[blissful sedge]

Ok yeah I didn't notice you saying that.
I was just pointing out that if you go to a pillar you can find a list of guns from reloading on different planets. And on that same planet you can get another pillar that has a different set of guns in it.

[amber pawn]

@blissful sedge Incorrect, all pillars on the same planet spawn in the exact same class, with the same pool loaded, they all have the exact same model.

The only exception to the same class rule is in the case of a prime planet with biome specific crops that causes split class

[blissful sedge]

Ok. Give me a little time and I will go back and track down the one planet with 2 pools of pillars and I'll show you.

[blissful sedge]

Ok. So I already had farmed up 40 sentinel maps. And I have been checking every pillar on every planet.
So far i am only onto the 3rd planet, and havent finished with 3rd planet yet.. But here are a couple interesting things I found so far.

These are both on the same planet.

And this pillar is the first planet with the same pool of guns as the first picture, but not the second.

But this pillar is not from the same pool of tools as the 1st and 3rd picture but it is the same as the 2nd.

[blissful sedge]

This message I am replying to has all the tools listed for each planet in the entire pool available in all the pillars.

[tired remnant]

I like the horns, you know you could press win + prtSc and screenshot will be saved to your pictures?

[blissful sedge]

I am on switch

[tired remnant]

found this interesting fella

[blissful sedge]

I am going to continue checking all the tools at all the pillars. On all the planets in this system and report back once I have more to share.

[timid vessel]

Wow cool. Have never found anything that neat yet

[tired remnant]

Started surveying systems for tools, its surprisingly bland 😄

[blissful sedge]

Really? I think the two tone crystals are neat.

[tired remnant]

I mean out of the whole system there would be 1-2 interesting MTs

[blissful sedge]

For sure.

[amber pawn]

@blissful sedge Definitely found yourself a split class caused by prime planet. Your previous post was all 7 natural A Class models, but due to the prime split youve stumbled on some natural B ones. If you were to scout regular cabinets, you'd find those same models eventually.

[blissful sedge]

Yep I do have the coordinates and save beacons for both pools at cabinates.

But rip I used my expedition save to go back there (the leviathan expedition save) and I apparently changed one of the settings and now it's marked as a creative save instead of survival 😢

[blissful sedge]

Well I am out of maps. Lol 😢

Only was able to do 3 planets with 40 maps
I think I am satisfied with my discoveries in this topic. I saw no other deviations on the 3rd planet. Many more maps would be required to continue checking as it's a 6 planet system.
But so yeah. I'm not saying it's common but there for sure are 2 separate pools of tools.

[tired remnant]

[amber pawn]

@blissful sedge Gotta be careful with the wording - 2 separate pools implies up to 8 different models can be pulled under the same load condition. Split class is not the same thing as an extra pool, it's more a fracture that allows a cabinet to flex class instead of the MT

[blissful sedge]

But look carefully. There are 2 separate guns that I found that are both part of a separate pool of guns.

[tired remnant]

got messed up pool of 2 MTs only cabs were changing letters for all of the tools...

C cabs

B cabs

A cabs

[blissful sedge]

Like there are 6 planets plus station. Which means there should be 7 tools for the entire system from the pillars. But I found 9 total tools.

[amber pawn]

@blissful sedge You're making a wrong association. Because of the split class, you were able to view multiple tools from the same pool when you should have only been able to access 1

I know this may be coming across as nitpicky, but its an important distinction

[blissful sedge]

These are 2 separate pillars. Both of these pillars have different tools. Than all the other pillars

Go to this system and check for yourself. You will see what I mean. You can just do your map duplication thing and find all the pillars on all the planets and you will see what I am saying.

[amber pawn]

Okay, I give up on trying to explain this through text - please do DM me glyphs, when I have time I'll go check it out so I can make a more visual presentation of what I'm trying to explain

[blissful sedge]

@amber pawn this is the system with glyphs and coordinates to one of the cabinates.

[amber pawn]

Euclid?

[blissful sedge]

Yes

So maybe I am explaining it badly. But when I say pool's I mean group of guns.
From most of the pillars I get the regular system tools. And I find those same guns in the cabinates too.
But a couple of those pillars do give different guns that the other ones don't give. Even if the pool is smaller or it's fractured and leaking more tools from one individual planets pool. It's still access to another pool or group of guns that you don't see at all the other pillars.

I also did say it's not common or anything. But only that it is possible to find 'alternate guns' or in other words another pool from the pillars.
Just like with the cabinets.

And trust me. I asked in the help channel and everything. I looked up videos and asked a bunch of people. Everyone says the same thing. That you can only get C class royals and that you can only get 1 set of guns from all the pillars. And I have seen in person myself that both of those aren't 100% accurate all the time. But generally they are right most of the time.

So hopefully how I clarified what i mean, and you being able to see for yourself how the pillars are in this system will clear up our misunderstanding. 👍

[tired remnant]

fun story so I was mining asteroids and attacked some poor korvax dude so we had to fight and then sentiels showed up( I was going to one of the planets to switch active pool) landed on it and had too fight 5th wave... So as usual it unlocked the pillar coords. found this:

not royal expert so don't know if its good or not, I don't have a nanite problems so

[blissful sedge]

Yep C class is fine but you can find them B or A. I haven't seen any S for them yet but probably are out there somewhere.

[amber pawn]

@blissful sedge Okay, while still not 100% clear, I understand much better what you're trying to convey. And I agree, there are a lot of so-called MT "experts" who are friggin clueless, shakes head at the fact that Royals were C Class only for a matter of ~10 weeks after release and yet to this day "experts" are ignorant of the change. I happily concede that while they were too busy talking, you observed a strange behaviour and investigated - terminology confusion aside, I appreciate your curiosity and pursuit of the truth. 🙂

[spice shuttle]

I thought royals spawned from c to a class. am I wrong?

[blissful sedge]

That's correct from the information gathered so far. But it's possible there is an S out there. As players we have only discovered ~1% of the game since it came out.

[spice shuttle]

there is a diffrence between what is possible, but a low chance, and something impossible because it has not been coded into the game

is it coded into the game than a S class royal can exist?

[blissful sedge]

I have no idea. I'm not a game coder or script master.
But I do know that things that are not programed to happen can still happen. And in fact things programed to specifically never happen can still happen.
I have already experienced things "impossible" in NMS and I have only had the game since November

[blissful sedge]

Someone told me once that they found one. But they never showed me a picture. So 🤷‍♂️

[tired remnant]

Glyphs: (Puhyl III, Nodarn Modeb XV, Euclid)
Pillar: +34.14, -3.05
description: Royal C Class Multitool
colors:
white / gold
brown / gold
yellow / gold
brown / black
gray / black
blue / black

[blissful sedge]

Wow really nice find.

[tired remnant]

Thanks, other than that all 7 pools were burning trash besides this guy I guess

i mean this is as exiting it gets there

[blissful sedge]

I have found 3 S class cabinates recently. But I have just been too busy to see what all the guns are.....

Maybe I'll do that by tomorrow this same time. I'll make it a goal.

[tired remnant]

#nolifesky

I did 3 systems today lol

you don't need S cabinet to see what pools are. Pools never generate native S tool

2 of C, B, A should cover everything total of 6 cabinets

[blissful sedge]

Well I mean I found 3 natural S cabinates at the stations. But haven't checked them out yet.

[tired remnant]

thats pretty lucky

[blissful sedge]

Yeah. I agree.

[blissful sedge]

So um. What do you guys think of my boltcaster with only 3 super slots? And not all the S grades are that good either. Most of these are just the 1% damage ups

[pale vapor]

you should try and see where the 4th slot is. could be just underneath the cluster in the middle and might be able to make synergy.

[blissful sedge]

Yeah I just need to get more expansion slots

[torn kelp]

So I found this on the black market space station, why does this S class rifle only have 14 slots?

[pale vapor]

this is my boltcaster build i was working on. the boltcaster SM blueprint makes a huge difference tho

im still not sure what types of module bonuses make the best build tho. i just went in prioritizing the 2%dmg and 19-20% fire rate. its confusing to test as there are 6? available bonuses but max 4 per module.

[pulsar charm]

Not really showing off a multitool but is this the place where I'd drop the name of a system I just discovered with an S rank multitool for ~5,000,000 units?

[blissful sedge]

Yes

[pulsar charm]

Haymnac, I'll send a photo of the runes in a sec

[blissful sedge]

I think the best 4 are
damage %
Fire rate %
Reload speed
Shots per mag.

[pale vapor]

this is the same build without the SM blueprint

[blissful sedge]

What's the SM blueprint?

[blissful sedge]

Euclid?

[pulsar charm]

It's funny because I can't even afford it atm because I just dropped all my units on freighters but yeah glad to be of service

[pale vapor]

only avaliable to people who played the game on day1 (edit: for PC players)

[blissful sedge]

Dang. 😢 I'm on switch bro

[pulsar charm]

New player, what does this mean?

[blissful sedge]

The galaxy you are in

[pale vapor]

allthough i guess now tech can be repackaged ii dont see any reason why they cant be shared with others

[blissful sedge]

Go to the galaxy map and it says which galaxy in the top

[pulsar charm]

I'm there

4 planets, 2 moons, Korvax, Technology economy - advanced, sporadic conflict

[blissful sedge]

Nope. In your space ship. Open the map to warp. In the top it says Euclid

[blissful sedge]

That's the system. On the discoveries page. Not the galaxy on the galaxy map

[pulsar charm]

Okay I see what you're saying now my bad

I'm there now, I don't see Euclid though, I guarantee I'm j missing something though

Or is that what the F2f means?

[blissful sedge]

This.👆

[pulsar charm]

OHHHHH

I KNEW IT

🤣🤣🤣

Thanks for pointing it out

[blissful sedge]

There are 200+ galaxies and the same glyphs for each. So It makes a huge difference where you end up when using glyphs if you aren't in the correct galaxy

[pulsar charm]

I see

[tired remnant]

so dmg would be due to adjacent SC?

[pale vapor]

a combination of the supercharge slots and the boltcaster SM blueprint. also 3 fairly decent X class mods

its almost max. only thing that would make it better is if the 4th slot was adjacent to the lower right slot of the "cube" like this

[tired remnant]

yeah im looking right now for better layout for current tool in A cabs I want that 3x 😄

this game is some wierd gatcha

[wary horizon]

where to find this?

[pale vapor]

the SM module? it was only avaiable to people who played the game when it was released on PC

https://nomanssky.fandom.com/wiki/Boltcaster_SM

the same way the photonix core(pulse engine upgrade) was only available to people on ps4 that played at the start

[pale vapor]

or if you mean the tool i have no idea. i got it some time ago and cant remember where

[tired remnant]

alright, keep your secrets 😉

[pale vapor]

it actualy might be this one

[pale vapor]

^^

[tired remnant]

alight, 40 more minor settlements, lets go! #nolifesky

[blissful sedge]

#NoMansSouls

[tired remnant]

nothing...

[wary horizon]

the gun location

[pale vapor]

#nms-multitools message @wary horizon

[wary horizon]

sure thing. also are there other compacted 4 super charger alien guns? my one isn't refreshing in the starter galaxy

[turbid trench]

i haven't played much since 4.0 dropped. is there a way to choose where the SC slots go without save editing?

[dry lichen]

No

[turbid trench]

boo

oh well

[blissful sedge]

No, but you can find the same tool with different slot arrangements at different cabinets

[turbid trench]

true

[uneven ivy]

Late reply but I have a link to a YouTube video about an alien with 4 touching SC slots if you want it

[wary horizon]

sure thing

[uneven ivy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpA_04KtLyM
Should be it, Can be kinda hard to find as there were very many bases there

[fickle badger]

@blissful sedge interesting thing, I went searching for one of the pillar MTs you posted the other day. I found it, but the SC slots were different

[rare burrow]

Elkupalos galaxy

[blissful sedge]

Probably you found a different pillar than I did.

[fickle badger]

That changes the SC? It isn't specific to the gun?

[blissful sedge]

It is possible to get different super slots from a different cabinet. And since a pillar is basically a cabinate yes. It should be possible for different super slots.

[fickle badger]

That is neat. Thanks for the info!

[edgy obsidian]

Aren’t there alien multi tools?

[dry lichen]

Yeah #nms-multitools message

[edgy obsidian]

Where’s that one at?

[dry lichen]

I dunno

[edgy obsidian]

Dang ok thanks

[dry lichen]

!nmsgelink

[chilly hill]

https://discord.com/invite/zn4Xc5d

[dry lichen]

Lots of shared addresses for lots of things

You can also search multitool in #explorers-archive for some

[minor plover]

pardon my ignorance, but what's a pillar?

[blissful sedge]

It's called a sentinel nest or pillar.
It gives you a multitool for free that's in a broken state, and you can shit down the sentinels from that planet with it.

[feral marlin]

Wait... what are you doing to the Sentinels? No wonder they're always actin wrong. You're out there rilin' em!

[blissful sedge]

Yeah out there farming them up. And since all players have a shadow they always think I'm there.

[tardy hemlock]

S-class multi-tool and yellow Royal multi-tool. Both in the same system. Kikogallr Galaxy.

[uneven ivy]

I have a question. I was looking for an alien pistol and found a few. Turns out at least 1 was called a "mid-rifle". Is that a thing or is it just a short rifle? Also saw one called an smg. Im confused on what those do since the rifle does damage and the pistol is for mining.

[blissful sedge]

These are the bonuses that each weapon type receives

And these are the appearance differences for all the weapons.

How to tell if it's a pistol or a rifle? Check the number of slots it has.

Pistols will always have less slots than rifles.

[amber pawn]

@blissful sedge @uneven ivy

[blissful sedge]

Wait one of the pistols is an experimental though.

The subnautica looking one

Or wait. So double barrels always means pistol?

[uneven ivy]

Does the small rifle do less than the large?

[amber pawn]

@uneven ivy No, they both get rifle bonuses

@blissful sedge yes to double barrels, and there are no hybrid bonuses, MTs get only 1 set of bonus rolls

[uneven ivy]

Okay and from the looks of it, there are no mid pistols so I guess I have like 3 alien small rifles

[blissful sedge]

I know the only get 1 bonus set, but why would they make a pistol that looks exactly like an experimental?

[uneven ivy]

Thanks for the info

[amber pawn]

@blissful sedge the starter pistol came long before experimentals

[uneven ivy]

Wait, from the first image posted. Does that mean the alien pistol and alien rifle do the same?
I thought rifle for damage and pistol for mining

[dry lichen]

Alien = Alien regardless of size

[uneven ivy]

Damn that kinda sucks finding out after searching and setting up both xD

[blissful sedge]

Yes alien pistol and alien rifle have the same bonus to stats because they are both alien

[uneven ivy]

Well I guess at least now I can just use my halloween alien tool. That works

[pale vapor]

the biggest mystery is why they basically copy pasted the experimental stats for the royal mt's. especially given that the scan bonus is completely useless. royals should have had mid bonuses for all stats like the exotic ships.

and thinking logically, rifles should have the mining bonus and pistols should have had the flat stats.

[uneven ivy]

I can agee with the Royal part. For me it makes sense that rifles would be damage based instead of mining

[pale vapor]

ok yeah your probably right

it should probably go something like this
pistol - no bonus
small rifle/smg - mining bonus
large rifle - mid dmg bonus
experimental -scan bonus that actualy works and gives unit boost
Royal - mid bonus for all stat
Alien - large dmg bonus but reduced mining and scan

[uneven ivy]

I can agree with some of that but i think the pistol for mining fits, maybe a small mining bonus for pistol

[blissful sedge]

So then everyone would run 3 tools. 1 alien 1 experimental and 1 small rifle.

[pale vapor]

yea and there would be a progression and some specialization

[uneven ivy]

Most people would probably give up after 2

[pale vapor]

or just run a royal as a best mid ground

[blissful sedge]

Yeah

But no one would ever use pistols.

[pale vapor]

but thats the point

you start with the pistol

[uneven ivy]

Do you think it would be worth running alien and royal, Royal for mining and scan and alien for damage or just stick to alien

[blissful sedge]

Starting with something doesn't make its entire type of weapon bad tho.

[amber pawn]

@uneven ivy the best pairing is Pistol + Alien

Royal/Experimental is best for all-in-one MT

[blissful sedge]

I can agree with this based on the bonuses

[uneven ivy]

I dont like the look of pistols but I love aliens

[amber pawn]

I dislike the look of most Pistols, but this one from a Shadow Star was a coincidence too good to pass up.

[pale vapor]

thats a nice pistol but....

what is that xD

[blissful sedge]

Don't look at it.

[blissful sedge]

What is a "shadow star"?

[amber pawn]

@blissful sedge 1 star in every region can be warped to, but not Portalled to, thats the Shadow Star

[blissful sedge]

I am confused what that means.

[amber pawn]

When you dial the Portal address it registers as corrupt and you arrive at a different system, so the only way to reach it without teleport access is by using hyperdrive. @blissful sedge

[blissful sedge]

Oh. I see. I have never found a system I can't warp to yet.

How do you know you found one?

[amber pawn]

You can warp to it, you cannot Portal to it. Only way to know for sure is to dial the address in a Portal and see if it registers as corrupt.

[uneven ivy]

Found out something new today. Nice

[blissful sedge]

So I may have already found several of them and don't know it.
Well that's a rip. That means glyphs are no longer reliable I also will need to like write down the system name to be sure I know where these glyphs take me in case that happens

[pale vapor]

only time i see that address corrupt redirecting message is when i do the to get to the galaxy centre

[amber pawn]

There's such a small chance of stumbling on a shadow without looking that youre better off considering glyphs reliable abd only look into it if someone says coords dont work

[blissful sedge]

But that's the thing. If the glyphs don't work I won't know where that was anymore. In my massive list of systems I discovered on what planet....

[proud girder]

Is X > S?

[feral marlin]

X can be way better than S, or considerably worse. Xs can require a lot of farming.

There are duping tricks that can ease the pain, if youre into that.

[sinful owl]

Decided to search for my own MT. This is what I found. Euclid galaxy -57.92 +112.59 ilbanklin ride
Edit: is in a “Prime pool” system so may not be exact.

[sinful owl]

Does the multitool box not lock to the class anymore? I found that experimental, marked the settlement it’s in, then started going to the other planets in the solar system to load their pool. Then I’d come back to this box and it should be the S class of the planet I had loaded on. That was true for the first 2 planets but the third one changes the box to a B class box. Is that a thing now?

[blissful sedge]

You have found a prime planet with a split class

[outer storm]

i had the same issue just now. found the S experimental at +65.36 , +148.61

[blissful sedge]

The same one as above?

[outer storm]

same name and class different stats it seems

[blissful sedge]

Then it's simply another cabinate. Cabinates can vary up or down 1. So it could be an A or S

[sinful owl]

Did you find it on ilbanklin ride? One of t he moons?

[blissful sedge]

Check the station cabinate.

[outer storm]

I went to your message. reloaded on the planet saw a B multitool. Got in my ship and used a planetary chart to find the next closest inhabited marker. which is where i found the multitool

[sinful owl]

Interesting.

[outer storm]

PC vs console perhaps? I'm on pc

[sinful owl]

I am on ps5 but that cabinet is S class for 4 planets and B class for one.

I’m going to go to your S cabinet and see what I find.

[outer storm]

sounds good. In any case, thank you for the find!

[sinful owl]

That cabinet is a C class for me. Also, the big reason I’m flustered is because erga f8 has a cooler looking experimental but it shows as a B in my S cabinet.

[sinful owl]

What does that mean?

[blissful sedge]

Prime planets are planets that were updated later or added into the game later and can have strange phenomenon on them. Like the split class multitool, or possibly even 2 pools of multitools

[amber pawn]

@blissful sedge In T1 and Outlaw systems, natural A Class can flex down to C.

[blissful sedge]

Oh I thought it could only go down 1. Good to know

[amber pawn]

And we talked about this, saying 2 pools is misleading.

Split class is the accepted term.

[blissful sedge]

Split class only implies that the same exact guns with different classes can be found.
2 pools suggests that you can possibly find more tools than are normally in the system which is what I found.

[amber pawn]

In order for 2 pools to actually be possible, saving and reloading on the prime would guarantee 4 non-royal models available in cabinets minimum, with up to 8. Unless you can show me a single instance where 5 different non-Royal models are available in the same session, you didnt find 2 pools. @blissful sedge

[sinful owl]

This planet (moon) only had 4 different tools. Each tool fluctuated up or down one class. There was nothing strange in the 40+ cabinets on the planet I searched. The only weird thing is that when I go to the other planets and tap into their pool then head back to the S cabinet, the tool is an S for all but one planet. That planet is a B class experimental.

[blissful sedge]

I went to every single planet and reloaded and went back to the same cabinet. Checked all the guns in the system. Total 7 different ones including the one from station. But upon searching for more cabinets and pillars I found more tools at both cabinets and pillars. More than 7. More than 1 per planet. Which to me at the least suggests there are more guns available within the planet and system.

Maybe it's not 2 "pools" and is instead other guns that aren't Normally being seen that are available when they Normally aren't, I would still call this 2 pools because there are the guns you can normally get listed and there are 7 of them. But you can find more than 7 (1 from each planet and station) those being the second pool.

[amber pawn]

@blissful sedge A "pool" specifically means the 2-4 models assigned to a specific planet or the space station. Split class may have resulted in the ability to see more of a single pool, but that's it. Calling it multiple pools just confuses an already complex issue.

[blissful sedge]

Well then we need to come up with another better common ground term for this phenomenon because split class is just as misleading as 2 pools is

[amber pawn]

I am more than happy to accept any term you want to use that isnt already in use for MTs, lol.

[blissful sedge]

How about a "Prime pool" as it doesn't actually imply anything it can't be misleading.

[amber pawn]

Works for me

[sinful owl]

So I’m in a T3 with 4 planets AND 2 moons, with a space station. My experimental S class is on one of the 2 moons that orbit a planet. 3/4 planets and the other moon all give me an S class tool in the cabinet. The planet that the moons orbit AND the space station (that has an A class cabinet) both give me a B class tool in my S class cabinet. Also the player above went to my S cabinet and it was a B for them. They were able to find another S cabinet and get the tool but that cabinet was a C cabinet for me.

[amber pawn]

@sinful owl That's the result of split class due to prime planet.

[sinful owl]

So should I take down my post so other people don’t think I’m lying or can’t find it?

[outer storm]

I might be biased but you put me in spitting distance of the multitool so I appreciate the post @sinful owl

[sinful owl]

I’m stoked that someone was able to benefit from the post. Enjoy!

[blissful sedge]

I would just edit to include the Prime pool tag so people know some weirdness may happen

[sinful owl]

For anyone interested, I believe the planet that is the “prime” is a volcano (erupting) planet. When I pulse around the planet, I don’t go around like all others, my ship goes into the atmosphere and takes me out of pulse. It is the same planet that gives me the B tool in me S cabinet.

[outer storm]

Found this at an Outlaw station

[sinful owl]

Now, if you don’t know, you should be able to go to each planet in the system, one at a time save and reload then come back each time and it’ll be a different S class tool.

[sinful owl]

I like the colours!

[amber pawn]

@outer storm FYI, natural S multitools in outlaw systems arent locked to high tier dmg like elsewhere, so it isn't worth hunting S Class cabinets - but lucking into an S at the Space Station is never a bad thing, so nice find. 🙂

[quick glade]

sentinel pillar

euclid

[glass oxide]

does anyone know what a geology cannon is actually good for??

[feral marlin]

'splosions

[glass oxide]

like as a weapon? cos the splosions are so small

[feral marlin]

Good for mining densely packed resources, and blowing up sentinels... or yourself

[glass oxide]

sounds like fun lol

[feral marlin]

You can upgrade dmg area

[glass oxide]

yeah i just grabbed some upgrades

[turbid trench]

Quickly ending a playthrough

[primal nova]

anyone know how to lower recoil (especially on boltcaster)? its so annoying

tiny sentinels, large recoil, not fun

[blissful sedge]

Get an upgrade with burst cool down reduction

[primal nova]

whats a bust cool down

[blissful sedge]

Burst

[primal nova]

ohh ok thx

asked in the help channel, they couldnt helpme, so thanks a bunch

[blissful sedge]

Each time you pull the trigger there is x amount of time till you can pull it again. It reduces that. Which is also because of recoil

[primal nova]

gulf livery

[deep rover]

So I picked up a C class royal pretty early in the game but have been using my A class rifle as I had no idea about inherent type bonuses (doh!). What's the full nanite cost to upgrade a C class through the levels as the royal seems to be the best single MT if you aren't swapping tools.

[gritty fjord]

Lurking here for alien multitools 👀

[blissful sedge]

50,000 from A to S
25,000 from B to A

[deep rover]

ty. Getting to A not tooo bad. That jump to S though...

[blissful sedge]

Just farm sentinels

[deep rover]

lol. thought that was some type of bonkers nanite farm you had going till I notice how large your stack sizes were. Have a couple stacks of glass I haven't opened yet, time to see what they have.

[deep rover]

It has begun

[ashen hawk]

Bam

[blissful sedge]

Bam

Kaboom

[deep rover]

Of course the moment I start spending on the orange that I don't really like for a color, a yellow with gold trim one drops.....

[ashen hawk]

Oooo dang those look good Shadow

[warm siren]

Found this in the space station of my first Eissentam system I spawned in

[pulsar charm]

Needs fixing but cool colored Royal.

[rigid finch]

use the combat scope, helps significantly

[outer surge]

what did i just find??? its like a ... living gun?

[rigid finch]

scroll up. you'll see a cool image identifying multitools@outer surge

[blissful sedge]

That's called an alien multitool

[edgy obsidian]

Anyone have a location for an s tier multi tool or an alien multi tool

[quick glade]

theres alien rifles right? or are they all pistols?

[amber pawn]

@quick glade Yes, but one thing you must be clear on - Rifle/Pistol the type gets specific bonuses, rifle/pistol/smg the size applies to anything, and determines the maximum number of slots that an MT can be purchased with.

So an Alien Pistol does not have both maximum damage & mining - it gets Alien bonuses only, and is limited to a max of 16 slots at purchase because it is pistol-sized

[quick glade]

i see

between experimental rifles, alien rifles, and royals, which is best for potential damage?

[amber pawn]

Alien wins in the damage category, period. Nothing else can hit its lowest damage roll

Let alone compete with it

[quick glade]

oh damn, def finna have to cop one of those then

any of em get a scanning bonus?

[frank flint]

16/16/16

1.6.1.6

1…6…1…6

/Error/

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[amber pawn]

@quick glade Alien MTs get Alien bonuses. They dont have a bad scan stat, but whether bad, good, or zero, the Scan stat holds the same measure of usefulness to players, which is to say none.

[quick glade]

idk i like to get 500k+ when scanning new things

[amber pawn]

That's entirely due to the Analysis Visor upgrade mods you bought/acquired thne installed + whatever synergy bonuses theyre receiving

Scan stat plays no part in the calculation

[deep rover]

I was hoping it applied to hotspot detection range but that doesn't seem to be the case.

[amber pawn]

Scan Pulse only, aka how far you wanna see sodium and oxygen flowers light up. @deep rover

[blissful sedge]

So ultimately the best multitool is alien. At least imo.
Because damage and not bad mining speed.

You can go with experimental, or royal as a good alternative for 10 extra mining but at the cost of 10 damage. So it's a balanced trade off.

That extra mining speed might help if all you do is mine, but you can get some pretty good buffs for your mining laser speed on alien tool anyway.

[rigid finch]

Mining laser maxed out does well against all sentinels. 🙂

[blissful sedge]

Really?

[rigid finch]

no kickback..... lasts longer without any reload

[blissful sedge]

When you say does well you mean it can destroy them quickly?

[rigid finch]

is a literral leaf blower with creatures

[blissful sedge]

Yeah that's true on bodies.

[rigid finch]

try it, and get some laughs doing it

[blissful sedge]

But mining laser vs armor is really bad. Low damage and you will have to recharge the laser eventually.

But I think I'm gonna stick to my 1 burst boltcaster doing 19k

[rigid finch]

I prefer boltcaster, also. But I don't really worry about switching from the mining laser whenever sentinels harrass me

[blissful sedge]

I guess it depends on your damage settings

[rigid finch]

test it, see what you think

[blissful sedge]

I have. It does 60 damage to one per second.
They have about 1,000 HP

That's way too long to defeat each individual one.

[rigid finch]

it wont let me upload my little video clip of using it

[blissful sedge]

File too large

[rigid finch]

yup

[blissful sedge]

Rip.
But yeah it takes like 8+ seconds to defeat one sentinel with mining laser if you were doing double my mining speed or damage.
I can defeat one in 1 second with my boltcaster. Unless it was just a single healer drone idk if I would ever use mining laser seriously.
Maybe to mess with a sentinel that's far away sure. But that's it

[rigid finch]

👍

[shy veldt]

How does one obtain an alien multitool?

[golden timber]

I’ve seen way more in tier 3 economy systems, check planets besides stations

S class idk I’m still looking best alien I’ve found is b class

[blissful sedge]

Follow directions to one someone has already found. Or be lucky enough to find one yourself.

[timber palm]

Euclid Galaxy

+6.79, -54.46
I also left communication hub

[deep rover]

I was just using a rifle as it was white like my outfit and had a minimum silhouette until I learned about type bonuses. Then found I had a royal and alien in my inventory (probably from sentinel clears). Alien is the pistol in all black with a ring of teeth around end of the barrel. Now using royal for walking around and mining and the alien for fights.

Thought I had 2 aliens as I had another pistol that looked normal except for a crystal shard for the magazine, but guess that's just a different design of a pistol class.

[blissful sedge]

You also you know that alien only gets the alien buff. There is no difference in stats with alien pistol and rifle at all.

[deep rover]

Ya, assuming experimental is the same way though I haven't come across those yet.

[blissful sedge]

Want a cool little experimental?

I found this one in euclid

White with blue smear experimental, with black and blue two tone crystals.

[deep rover]

Question for you, how to tell an experimental? My two pistols look like the fourth and last one in the list. When I compared mine that looks like 4th in the image, it just said pistol.

[blissful sedge]

Several ways to tell. First is their number of slots. Pistols have the least slots.
Second is by their appearance.

Here is a picture from above.

[deep rover]

Ah. You meant only the white one in your list was the experimental?

[blissful sedge]

Yes

Another good example

[deep rover]

All good, didn't read the text of the image at first and thought you were posting a list of several experimental. I'm new, I can still have those mistakes.

[blissful sedge]

👍 no worries. I get what you mean.

[spice shuttle]

looking for an S class pistol with a stock

[modern venture]

@spice shuttle mind sharing the coordinates of the MT you try to find?

[spice shuttle]

opps sorry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpA_04KtLyM

@modern venture there ya go^

sorry i got confused in between the two channels

[modern venture]

Cheers!

Can never have enough MT with adjacent SC slots

[spice shuttle]

yep

[slow ledge]

Can you stack cloak mod?

[blissful sedge]

I don't think so.

[deep rover]

Mission successful

[blissful sedge]

Glyphs? Galaxy? Coordinates?
Also awesome 👍

I like the white with green little things in the back. It looks cool

[deep rover]

Pulled them from youtube, will need to look it up again later. Was debating between white with the black diamond pattern or the green tubes. Went with green even though one of the recent updates dropped the known spawn location of the pistol from S to A.

[wary horizon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkDoAactbcI&t=88s
for the first multi tool if you don't see the experimental do not grab it.
go to space and go to the space station and get out of your ship and reload a "restore point" in menu options then finally go to the portal and there should be a jayfh portal will go directly to the minor station

[blissful sedge]

I think Hero is cool and makes helpful videos, but advising players to delete their save file to get a gun and risk starting the game over again is A not something that hero says in any of his videos, and B not something anyone should try at all or is needed to be attempted.

[wary horizon]

it was a suggestion. It's safe as i use this in other games and clicking on "delete everywhere" will delete the entire game file. I'm familiar with this save method. It's a time frame method. sure thing

[blissful sedge]

But for what reason do you need to do this at all?

[wary horizon]

if you fail to do it on xbox the first time the other method can help fix it

[blissful sedge]

No. But why even do this. It is not required to do this to save your game on xbox.

[deep rover]

https://youtu.be/QBeVy6XQwCE

That is the all white experimental pistol with green charge tube. As noted in comments, spawns as an A now instead of S.

https://youtu.be/1D0jMQJDt40

You can find the matching experimental rifle in this video. Still an S type.

If you want the black diamond pattern instead of pure white with green tubes, there are also a couple vids with that combo.

[zinc perch]

How!?

[primal nova]

wait how do you know if the multi tool is expirimental or not

bc theres one in my station that has same design and colors but its trash and cheap

like same colors and everything

[primal nova]

a pistol version of htese

the blue and orange ones

[primal nova]

ohh cool

[blissful sedge]

Also there is no such thing as a pistol experimental. It is either an experimental or it's not. Same for alien. It is or isn't.
All guns get their one type of buff and that is all

[primal nova]

like its shaped like a pistol

[blissful sedge]

Yes but it's either a pistol OR an experimental. There are no pistol experimentals

[primal nova]

ok got it

[spice shuttle]

LF for multitool with SC slots like this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpA_04KtLyM

either alien or pistol, dont care about the others

and if the fact that multitools do get a stat bonus if they spawn at s class is true, at s class too, please.

[deep rover]

you mean like this one

[spice shuttle]

exactly like the one in the video, yes, but for some reason that location isnt working for me, lol

[deep rover]

Well, if you figure it out it's still available there 😆

[spice shuttle]

yep

trying to

[deep rover]

I portaled in, pulsed over to the spot, landed on the station pad and walked right in and could pick it up. I do have multiplayer off if you missed that.

[spice shuttle]

I missed that the first time. trying again in multiple diffrent ways did not help. i've got a solution, but thanks

if anyone can confirm this btw:
and if the fact that multitools do get a stat bonus if they spawn at s class is true, at s class too, please.

[quick glade]

is this the most rifle like a alien can be?

[amber pawn]

Yes

[quick glade]

able to trade MT with others or nah

[amber pawn]

@spice shuttle In regulated systems, yes, natural S Class is weighted to high tier damage, and upgraded is weighted to low tier everywhere

No MT trading

[quick glade]

damn

[spice shuttle]

I despise this with the entirety of my being bc if I dont get a natural S class I will constantly nag myself about it lmaooo

[deep rover]

The best answer I can find is that bonus based on stat seems locked in for multi tools, but may have been removed at some point for ships. The only way to really know may be to get a saved filed editor and look up the details there.

[amber pawn]

That's backwards, it's an override that was applied only to MTs

[deep rover]

So starting class only matters to ship now? Guess that makes me feel better about farming portals last weekend 🙂

[amber pawn]

You interpreted the wrong thing when I said backwards

Starting class matters more for MTs than ships

[deep rover]

Ah. Have a white fighter with green eyed R2 that you just saved from the salvage pile.

@spice shuttle Other than the crystals, goes well with the outfit

[spice shuttle]

I was gona say other than the green goes well with the outfit

magenta goes crazy

[deep rover]

ya true.

I had gotten 2 C class royals recently, one in a color I didn't like and since I know now starting class matters more for them it was out she goes.

[amber pawn]

@deep rover Royals are an exception, natural S Class doesnt exist

[deep rover]

lol, the secrets!. Kept the yellow with gold so still have one in inventory.

[quick glade]

any way to sell or rearrange my MTs?

[deep rover]

I just realized while setting this up for mining, it has 3 of the 4 slots adjacent as a bonus.

[spice shuttle]

afaik the only way to get rid of MT's is by swapping it for another MT

it infuriates me

[deep rover]

And that doesn't change position. Saw mention before about using a save file editor to change order and that's about the only way. More annoying with your default ship slot.

[spice shuttle]

NMS really needs a QOL update for picking MT's, ships,(and maybe allow swap ship in the space station), and probably building

but I like complaining

[blissful sedge]

Once you get 6 you will always have 6. No way to reorder them unless you could get rid of it and get it back again.

[quick glade]

i cant use a pillar right? like i cant put one into it to change it for another one

[deep rover]

yes you can, anytime you interact once you are at 6 your option is to swap or decline.

[quick glade]

like i cant put one in and get it back out again

once its in its gone

[deep rover]

you can. you can see if what it offers is good, then decline and swap to a spare MT and ask for it again from the pillar to then swap

[quick glade]

no can i swap multi tools and be able to get the one i put in back

cause i think its a no

[deep rover]

no, once what you currently have has left your inventory, it's gone for good

[quick glade]

thought so

[blissful sedge]

This is not entirely true. Once you no longer have the tool you should be able to get it again at a cabinate or pillar (if it wasn't a unique special event type)

[pale vapor]

#nms-multitools message

[wintry walrus]

Was just messing around on creative mode punching random addresses and found this S Class.

Galaxy #001

[drowsy verge]

Euclid

[drowsy verge]

Euclid... You can see where the third super slot is gonna be

[spice shuttle]

thx :)

[pale vapor]

np. that's the best mining tool you can get right now afaik.

[spice shuttle]

yep

i'll be sure to pick it up

[kindred locust]

Anyone have a royal multi tool that is s class in first 12 glyphs

[wary horizon]

hi. you asked the reason of why i do this. I know it's not required

[wary horizon]

maybe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkDoAactbcI&t=88s
there are 2 royals that will spawn the red and blue one. if the red one don't spawn go to space station and get out the ship and reload a save then go to the portal and find jay portal to the s class

[blissful sedge]

Those are not S class though

[kindred locust]

That's ok

Thanks!

[deep rover]

According to an earlier statement, there are no S class royals in game.

[blissful sedge]

That's what I said.

[wary horizon]

oh

[proven niche]

i got some maps that we have a chance to get you a royal on and the tainted metal needed for the nanites to upgrade if anyone wants in

[gleaming stream]

I have found a pillar that spawns A class royal MTs, I can share the coords if you're interested

Ping me later

[elfin moat]

If u upgrade it s and add some s class upgrade it'll damage like 3000

[drowsy verge]

A class has 3 super slots... And you can see the other two and there is only one spot left in the grid... So there is a 50% chance that it might become a super slot... Once you do get a super slot there you can then upgrade it to S class...is what I would suggest.
But upgrading it to S class first is also a way but it might randomise the other two slots

[elfin moat]

Yaa

[golden timber]

Experimental with alien horns?

[pale vapor]

this is not an experimental. its a pistol. i think any weapon has a small chance to have bones/horns i think they are more common on aliens tho. come to think of it i dont think i have ever seen them on experimentals

its the same with the crystals. more common on aliens but can get rare pistols/rifles with colored crystals

[golden timber]

Gotcha I was confused I thought alien was only one to spawn crystals or horns

[rigid finch]

there are lots of experimentals shared with horns or crystals. I don't like either of them, though.

https://discord.com/channels/627059745160953866/840733348368220181

[golden timber]

I’ve only found one alien so far it’s red with pink crystal and horns, damage is great for sentinels

B class just ended up buying it to s

[rigid finch]

I like the looks of this in the image, but when I use it, the horns distract me when I am trying to aim. I'm old and shake too much 🙂

[golden timber]

That’s a nice looking one

[rigid finch]

this is my current one I just grabbed

[drowsy verge]

Nice i have same one in red

Experimental are imo best mt there is...good for fighting...mining and scan..

[rigid finch]

me too, and orange. Guess when we like a certain thing, we really like it, eh

oh, and green

[drowsy verge]

I kinda stumbled upon it when doing a mission...

Its been with me for quite a while now

[rigid finch]

great looking tool

you use the same weapons I do.... even though most times I shoot everything with the mining laser

[golden timber]

16k damage nice

[glossy gulch]

What are ways I find planetary cabinets? Which of the data items find those buildings?

And are planetary cabinets qualitatively better than stations, on the whole?

[feral marlin]

Commercial Maps. Minor Settlements. Just another Cabinet, no better or worse than the Station.

[full compass]

That's an awesome MT. Could you share it's glyphs?

[drowsy verge]

I got it on a settlement during nexus misson. But see if you can find a similar one in this channel...use discord image search....or you can use nms ce...they prolly have it

[rigid finch]

here is a cool one from Austintacious if you like the horns;

[abstract grotto]

That's sweet! Ty for the share!

[rigid finch]

Austin has a catalogue of really great finds.

[blissful sedge]

So you don't have the glyphs?

[blissful sedge]

Euclid

[drowsy verge]

No...

I could have shared cords but idk why but my list of discoveries got cleaned to new

So systems that were found by me were there just not showing in my list and still quite a few missing

[blissful sedge]

😢 dang. That's unlucky.

[drowsy verge]

Not quite coz my own system has few good ones as well... I have best one soo far

This is better than previous one coz it has all 4 super slots available

[full compass]

Hope I won't attract the no-Horny Police 😁

[plain edge]

found a pistol at a sentinel pillar
A class with boltcaster + barrel ioniser + optical drill and 3 supercharged slots close together
some repairs arent hard to collect parts for

coordinates are +24.42 +128.21

if you reload autosave on other planets it might change the way it looks but im not sure

[plain edge]

if the autosave is reloaded on the cabled moon, this multitool will appear instead
more space, also comes with geology cannon and paralysis mortar, but more slots to fix

its also a rifle instead

[plain edge]

finshed checking all planets
no exotic/experimental

[deep rover]

that last one looks interesting, almost like an smg with the small stock.

[blissful sedge]

Yeah it's pretty mean looking with that horn.

Also these names are pretty fire 🔥

Idk how I found so many S class tools in such a short time span tho.

Crazy.

I also have no clue how in the world I ended up in Budullangar Galaxy

[deep rover]

Gives you options 😄

[blissful sedge]

Alright. Well all the searching and note taking and picture taking and file sharing and typing and messaging process to bring you these fine multitools has tired me out, plus it's 11 pm. So I'm gonna go to bed.
👋 have a good one see you around

[full compass]

Howd you all think, does this royal match my character's colours?

[drowsy verge]

😆

You were talking about the gun...yeah it definitely matches

To the point i couldn't see it

[full compass]

Thanks mate!

Unfortunately it's a C-class, but I guess I'll take it.
MTs are not like ships, their % bonuses aren't class-dependant, am I right?

[gleaming stream]

Not sure

But if you'd like to get an A-class royal MT, you can visit my base

Problem is I don't know if it will be possible to spawn one in your color scheme

[full compass]

How is it possible for a MT to only have 2 SC slots at A class?

[deep rover]

in an unpurchased slot?

[full compass]

Mining beam is in usual slot, just can't remove it

[gleaming stream]

The SC slots can spawn in top 4 rows of tech

Unlock the slots in 4th row, there should be 1 SC slot more

[full compass]

Thanks! Was quite disappointed at first, found the 3rd slot.

[balmy yoke]

Anyone know of a black&white Alien rifle with gold crystal ?

[golden timber]

YouTube has black and white w black crystal

[balmy yoke]

link ?

[golden timber]

https://youtu.be/igPj_vzJFG4

More greyish but still cool

Just search multi tool in yt couple nice ones w glyphs

[balmy yoke]

thank you, ended up getting this one

https://www.reddit.com/r/NMSCoordinateExchange/comments/fy570b/euclid_pc_normal_black_crystal_alien_rifle_24/

though it didnt spawn as an S class, only A

[slow ledge]

What is the coolest MT you guys have ?

[slow ledge]

That looks awesome 👏

[scenic summit]

The starter multi tool

[versed oyster]

would it be better to SC the base scan module rather than the best upgrade?

[amber pawn]

No

[versed oyster]

thats not true for most things tho, correct?

[blissful sedge]

It could help to boost it. It's always smart to shift things around a bit yourself to check the numbers. It could change drastically depending on which boosts you have on your upgrades

[versed oyster]

One I have boosted is a pretty stupid upgrade already, and I swapped it around to boost the scanner module and it netted worse performance so 🤷

[blissful sedge]

This is a fantastic upgrade. I wish I had this

[rigid finch]

supercharging those stats should not make it worse.... does it????

[versed oyster]

No it makes it much better, I am talking about rearranging my upgrades so that the scanner module is the one supercharged, not an upgrade, which indeed DOES make it worse. Keep ur upgrades SC

[rigid finch]

ok, right, that is how I have my X modules, in the SC

[versed oyster]

yes, that appears to be the correct way, although I guess if you have very low level upgrades it could be more beneficial to boost the scanner itself?

[rigid finch]

I understand your original comment better

I read it in a different way the first time

[versed oyster]

no worries

[amber pawn]

@versed oyster Boosting the Scanner itself will have no effect except on range of scan pulse iirc

[versed oyster]

I see that being true but it doesnt make much sense

I mean, guns on ships and the multi tool see a bigger benefit having the weapon itself SC'd rather than an upgrade

[amber pawn]

It makes perfect sense if you understand that SC only affects numerical stats tied to modules. Weapons all have a base damage stat tied to them.

[versed oyster]

so wouldnt it make sense the scanner as a base stat tied to it aswell for rewards?

[amber pawn]

Thats not a base stat the Scanner possesses

If anything itd be tied to Analysis Visor, but from what I recall discovery rewards are set up independently of both

[versed oyster]

then why do scanner upgrades improve rewards 😆

[amber pawn]

Because Visor upgrades arent a thing

[rigid finch]

I have my mining upgrade modules on SC, should the laser be in the SC, or which

[amber pawn]

@rigid finch Depends on whether you want best mining speed, best yield, or best damage vs enemies

[rigid finch]

all? LOL I like using it against sentinels, no recoil, goes longer than weapons that have to reload sooner

guess I can just NomNom that whole array

[amber pawn]

For damage, base tech SC

[versed oyster]

upgrade its class so u have a sc slot for every tool 🙂

[amber pawn]

@versed oyster 4 SC slots is max for MTs

[versed oyster]

who knows what his is? could be C

[amber pawn]

Definitely cant be C, else "modules on SC" would make no sense :p

[rigid finch]

@amber pawnif I didnt have any weapons in the mt, would it show the damage for the mining laser?

[amber pawn]

@rigid finch Yes

[rigid finch]

ok, cool

[quick glade]

poopy royal, Euclid at a pillar

[versed oyster]

ok now im confused on how SC slots work. Iv upgraded my royal's class twice and havent gotten any new SC slots?

[sturdy hollow]

that looks like a mass relay

[feral marlin]

Have you added slots, tho?

[versed oyster]

All 30

[feral marlin]

You try saving and reloading?

[quick glade]

what MT?

you best bet is to look for one with 4 slots instead of upgrading it

because S class doesnt ensure 4 SC slots

[eager anchor]

60 isn't it?

[scenic summit]

Look for decent multitool not 2 expensive near this solar system

[quick glade]

how expensive is too expensive

[scenic summit]

5mil

[quick glade]

good luck

[scenic summit]

One that better then starter multitool

Maybe 10-15 mill if get a whispering egg and sell tell

[feral marlin]

Selling whispering eggs? Larval cores sell for less than 100k

[scenic summit]

But there's like over 50

That get me money to get more money

Overall

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

@feral marlin see

[slender iron]

Found at the Space Station A Class

(turn multiplayer off tho)

[amber pawn]

@slender iron Class?

[slender iron]

i forgor

one sec

A class

[versed oyster]

If it’s 60 idk how ur suppose to afford that, the 30th slots already like 100mil

[pale vapor]

craft fusion or stasis devices

or you can just farm the upgrades from doing missions. think they are quite common rewards for pirate system missions.

[pulsar charm]

euclid

[dry warren]

whats the tier?

[pulsar charm]

its C unfortunately. but I figure anyone can upgrade with nanites.

[versed oyster]

Ok but at that rate each slot will be like a billion

And I already have stasis farms

[wary horizon]

4 compacted sc slots?

[golden timber]

Elucid, B, liked the color

[tired remnant]

anyone got them 4 adjacent SC slots tools?

or 3 at least 😄

[spice shuttle]

#nms-multitools message
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpA_04KtLyM
neither of these are mine

[wary horizon]

yes

hero has 3 videos

[tired remnant]

that is nice cab

[wary horizon]

the starter pistols aren't good at all

[wintry atlas]

Is it possible to get alien rifle multitools

[tired remnant]

Pistols are best mining tool, regardless of how MT looks like its all about the cab

[manic moth]

Am i able to sell multitool without buying another onr or to destroy them like you can do with spaceships

[tired remnant]

all that matters is cabinet seed for SC slots and desired type of MT

[wary horizon]

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkDoAactbcI&t=476s the only weapon that's good is the royal
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97onrXBDMIA&t=159s the only good weapons are the experimental and the pink/cyan weapon

[tired remnant]

Royals are same as experimental stat wise

[wary horizon]

no. i tested them. my best multi tool in mining and dmg are all alien multi tools as I got 2 duplicates of the Silhouette of lachudozh-Vi alien multi tool

[tired remnant]

this is simply the fact, there is a bit of random bonus but generally 4 adjacent SC slots will beat it every time

[wary horizon]

that pistol never out mined my alien multi tool

[tired remnant]

pistol have best stats for mining it is an undeniable fact, aliens are best in damage

[wary horizon]

in game the paper don't reflect it. maybe my set up is not working properly. I don't have the max x mods in mining but I used the exact same set ups and the pistol(the square adjacent sc) didn't out mine the Silhouette of lachudozh-Vi (right t shape adjacent sc)

[tired remnant]

Same configuration with same SC layout and mods will outmine it everyday and any time

• same class

[wary horizon]

this pistol?

it did not mine the Silhouette of lachudozh-Vi alien one

[tired remnant]

any pistol with same SC layout

[wary horizon]

until a pistol get the t shape sc, Silhouette of lachudozh-Vi will out mine

[tired remnant]

how it looks like and what name it have have exactly 0 difference

shape doesn't matter

[wary horizon]

shape do matters

[tired remnant]

source

[wary horizon]

this is my source

[tired remnant]

based on what

[wary horizon]

i tested these weapons

[tired remnant]

you are tripping I will stick with the facts

test it or not u can see base stats in any save editor

[wary horizon]

if it the correct 4 shape sc in a square or t shape, it's good. a straight line sc isn't gonna do much

and a l shape sc isn't as good as the t shape or square shape sc

[tired remnant]

because in square u have 2 adjacent mods to each

t shape is not better

[wary horizon]

the pistol square shape isn't doing much on the Silhouette of lachudozh-Vi t shape sc

[tired remnant]

w/e man I generally telling you that same config same SC pistol > alien in mining

[wary horizon]

until then. Silhouette of lachudozh-Vi is currently the best for dmg and mining

[tired remnant]

it is fundamental fact that pistols have bigger mining bonus and im not talking about shapes

or SC slots

in general this is fundamental fact

jesus w/e man

[wary horizon]

i don't know about the general base stats i was testing with mods. Also I believe experimental do more dmg than royal. i got the wrong royal but I got a experimental with the same sc conf. and was testing which is better. the experimental did better

[tired remnant]

they are the same, depends on cabinet seed it can be a bit bigger or less for both

[wary horizon]

if you do get the Silhouette of lachudozh-Vi and the pistol. you can also test your self and you should see the pistol may not do better.

[tired remnant]

to proof you anything I need to get a pistol from that same cabinet

[wary horizon]

it was from Hero latest video. I got the wrong royal(the wrong name). it was that and also the green-blue rocky experimental and the experimental did more

[spice shuttle]

objectivley, royals are bad. they dont spawn at s class(meaning that if upgraded to s class, they will have lower stats than a natural s class) and dont have a good stat bonus. shape of a MT does not by any way affect its stats, it is merley a cosmetic. just like how ship wings dont affect its manuvrabillity.

[spice shuttle]

pretty sure every single weapon comes with slightly diffrent base stats wich will affect results

[wary horizon]

both the Silhouette of lachudozh-Vi and the pistol were s class. The pistol didn't reach above 130 mining dmg(same exact x mods on the alien) and the alien was doing 190 mining dmg

[tired remnant]

you wont proof this guy anything

he doesn't get basic idea how tools are generated

[spice shuttle]

im just confused cuz this guy's toppling everything I thought I knew about MT's lmaooo

[wary horizon]

so if the pistol came from the same cabinet it will out do the alien mt in mining dmg?

[spice shuttle]

...what?

[tired remnant]

with same mining mods prolly

most likely

[wary horizon]

what was the last mt update?

[tired remnant]

at best will be the same

[wary horizon]

i learn also having the same x mod don't increase dmg. it do need key components like fire rate but with different stats. I thought duplicating the same powerful x mod(if they got more than 3 stats) would do it until I was testing on how to faster on my rockets

[tired remnant]

that is a random number assigned at generation of the tool irc

[spice shuttle]

depending on the seed, meaning if a diff person goes to pick up the tool, stats should be identical, correct?

[tired remnant]

Im not sure if it in cabinet or tool itself. but yeah

[wary horizon]

so the name matters the most instead of the sc cont?

[tired remnant]

name is not seed

[wary horizon]

what is the seed?

[tired remnant]

It should be in the same cabinet

then yes

[spice shuttle]

what matters the most for your testing is the starting stats. so if you get two MT's of the same class, alien/pistol, with the same sc loadout from the same cabinet, you should have a fair experiment. also, for simplicity, taking out the x class tech modules would help

[wary horizon]

that is impossible to get a pistol or experimental out of the Silhouette of lachudozh-Vi cabinet

[tired remnant]

initial min and max values for pistol and alien dont overlap so at best 20%+ for alien and at worst +20% for pistal in mining bonus

[spice shuttle]

oh

[tired remnant]

so same cabinet with SC layout pistol will out perform alien

[spice shuttle]

exactly

meaning we will be proven correct

[tired remnant]

also it seems that initial bonus values tight to tool itself and not the cabinet

[wary horizon]

but. how is that the starting stats matter at all?

[spice shuttle]

ah

[tired remnant]

so different cabinets will produce same tool the only difference will be slots layout

[spice shuttle]

i seee

not gona lie I forgot what this guy's tryina argue

[tired remnant]

its your bonus this is the only thing that sets tools apart

[spice shuttle]

typical internet argument moment

[tired remnant]

that his alien tool outperforms pistols and pistols are worthless while pistols are the best MT for mining 😄

[spice shuttle]

so what I tried to do was present a experiment that would provide a certain outcome to whether alien is better than pistols for mining. proving either their point or ours.

ours, according to all known laws of NMS

[tired remnant]

yeah reality is low key straight forward with tools it doesn't really matter how the tool looks like

[wary horizon]

not just any alien tool. Specifically the right t shape Silhouette of lachudozh-Vi alien mt

[tired remnant]

its all about type and slot layout

[tired remnant]

back to basics same layout pistol > same layout alien in mining anytime and day

[tired remnant]

right or left doesn't matter the only thing there is probably the calculation for adjacent slots

u got 3 adjacent slots to 1

im not familiar with calculation formula but the rotation of the shape shouldn't matter

[wary horizon]

until i get access to a right t shape pistol or a square sc alien tool. i believe the Silhouette of lachudozh-Vi is the best mt for mining and combat

[tired remnant]

use NomNom editor make one

[wary horizon]

Unfortunately on xbox

[spice shuttle]

can you show a picture of this square right t shape thing

[wary horizon]

oops maybe my description was a bit off. a horizontal t letter

[tired remnant]

alright give me the cords for this tool

[wary horizon]

a right and horizontal t letter?

[spice shuttle]

oh yeah I know this

[tired remnant]

i will do the tests for you

[wary horizon]

it's this one

[tired remnant]

i mean i want the exact tool

so there is no questions

[spice shuttle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpA_04KtLyM

[wary horizon]

go to the space station or find a teleport on the planet. the exact teleport has the Mandalorian word in its name and it will take you straight there

[spice shuttle]

if we are talking about this one? its a t shape sc alien tool

[wary horizon]

it's a regular long alien mt

there are only 2 weapons that spawn there. if you don't see the alien mt go to the space station and a reload a save

don't report the Mandalorian word base. it's probably the only easiest way you can get there. trolls are on there like there's no tomorrow

it does reset its spawns. you can know if you have to recharge your portals. for me i don't know if a sentinel pillar can reset

[tired remnant]

@wary horizon Here is base stats of it as u can see mining is not even close to 20

any S class pistol will have mining starting at 20

up to 35

[wary horizon]

with all the mods attach. it won't out mine Silhouette of lachudozh-Vi in game time

[tired remnant]

but it is pretty damn good damage base tho

it will

anytime any day

[rigid finch]

@wary horizonI havent read everything here, but I saw one thing that stood out. YOu can't dupe an upgrade mod and expect the dupe to have the same value as the original. Rolling Seeds don't work like that.

[tired remnant]

no no, he just claims that his alien tool is better at mining than any pistol

[rigid finch]

I saw that. And that he based stats on the upgrades, that he duped

[wary horizon]

i did it both way. I did not see any difference rolling for the same x mod and duping the same x mod. they both will have the same effect

[rigid finch]

@wary horizonall that matters is did you compare apples to apples, did the upgrade modules have the EXACT same value between each tool that you compared?

[wary horizon]

if this was true I will be rolling for the same x mod. Yes all of them had the same values in mt, exo suit rocket, and star ship. I did asked players on YouTube how they got their x mods and we both had the same values as the dupe ones

[tired remnant]

All this talk is meaningless its in game code no alien tool will exceed 20 mining bonus, its all about type and SC layout

[wary horizon]

wait oops

[tired remnant]

best mining tool will always be pistol type

[wary horizon]

i believe i mis read. same exact values for each mt?

[tired remnant]

best mining tool type

[rigid finch]

x class mods can roll between the lowest values of any class, to above an S class..... so if you put high value x class on a mediocre mining tool, and low value X class on the best, then the medocre tool may seem better

[wary horizon]

i know about this

[rigid finch]

so all variables have to be removed

[wary horizon]

same 20 stat in mod and if I put this in a super charged it will either have 49 or 50 fire rate it's seriously annoying I was rolling hard

[rigid finch]

those charts don't lie.... my guess is your test is not valid

[wary horizon]

it's the hidden stats in the mods. it sometimes can increase from 1 or 2 or stay the same. it's not the same for every individual stat

[tired remnant]

its w/e S class pistol from that same cabinet with exact same mods will out perform alien tool period

in mining*

[wary horizon]

Unfortunately this doesn't exist in this game unless we mod. i think they should allow players to gift mts. the xbox and ps players are left hanging, we also we like to experience the best of the best

[tired remnant]

there is probably a S class pistol in some planet's pool in that system, you just have to switch to it

but i already pulled out that alien tool so I can't use it again

[rigid finch]

on PC we can gift MTs thru a file. I can message another player a MT or Ship

[golden timber]

I mean if it lasers everything good enough for me I’m not picky on exacts

[wary horizon]

for xbox?

[tired remnant]

it does reset at sometime

[wary horizon]

only when the portals reset to be recharge.

do the sentinel pillars reset?

[tired remnant]

doesn't have anything todo with portal

[wary horizon]

that was the time it reset. on my perma death I been trying to get it reset and wehn I noticed the portals needed to be recharge. I was like "wait maybe this"

[tired remnant]

yeah its probably everything in system or planet doesn't answer question tho

mb 24h

[wary horizon]

it wasn't just that one save it were all of my saves(the ones I play)

[wary horizon]

also. ty for having dialogues with me and ty for new info about mt

[honest gale]

my multitool been grinding to build it up

[manic moth]

How much nanite does it need to get a C-class multitool to S-Class ?

[gleaming stream]

85k nanites

[manic moth]

Ok thx

[blissful sedge]

Did you find this?
Or did you upgrade this?

[blissful sedge]

This is with only bolt caster and less super slots with crappy 1% damage upgrades that don't even have 4 stat increases per augment

[ember spire]

Found it

I just added and repaired the tech

[blissful sedge]

Glyphs? Galaxy? I want to "find" it too

[quick glade]

bros got 19k damage potential with just a boltcaster :(

[drowsy verge]

Available as class here... But can be found as class in one of the ancient ruins. I had it as class earlier i lost it due to save edit.

Supercharged slots are as follows

(below is old image to prove m not lying)

[blissful sedge]

And only 3 super slots that are not close at all

[blissful sedge]

You mean from a sentinel pillar

[drowsy verge]

What?

[drowsy verge]

You found this as A class and upgrades to S ... Am i correct?

[blissful sedge]

The S class version of the tool you sent here is from a sentinel pillar. That's why all the stuff is broken

[blissful sedge]

I need glyphs and galaxy as well as coordinates for this tool

[drowsy verge]

Its from monolith...or alien structures. 🤔

[blissful sedge]

What? How?

[drowsy verge]

What you mean how?

[blissful sedge]

I mean how.
You get guns from alien structures?

[drowsy verge]

Yeah sometimes they do give guns... Atleast gave me

[slow ledge]

How many different variants are there ?

[golden timber]

4, pistol, rifle, alien, royal

[slow ledge]

I mean how many variants of those. There’s so many different designs and colors

[golden timber]

That I dunno it’s a decent selection of colors, alien for sure has a lot of variations w the crystal colors

Seen many two tone rifles

[amber pawn]

@slow ledge Did some quick math, for Alien MTs, there are roughly one quarter trillion variations possible due to the number of model parts and colour selections.

[rigid finch]

gonna take a min for them to find each one to decide what one to keep

[amber pawn]

The funny thing is, basic Rifles are like Shuttles - altogether mediocre in performance, but the procgen variety is an order of magnitude higher than any other tech lol. There are so many Rifle variations, the rarest parts combination won't have spawn locations for more than 1% of the colour combinations in the entire universe.

[golden timber]

The perfect alien search is on

[rigid finch]

I've gone thru phases. All my established Saves are all with only various Experimentals, various colors.

this week, the purple one is my favorite. Unitl it isn't anymore.

[pale vapor]

just found this A class cabinet in the space station, when its upgraded to S it gives all 4 sc slots in a row. Euclid.

[upper harness]

I found one of those it looks like it has a mag and it is white though

[slow ledge]

Awesome 👏. I’ve been MT hunting for hours. Visit planet save reload visit space station , rinse repeat. Only found a few A class. Not too bad but nothing amazing looking

[amber pawn]

@slow ledge The way MT seeding is set up, (based on observation of ~100 systems where I scouted every single MT model, a tiny sampling, so may be erroneous), the system/planet seeds seem to cascade rare features. So, if there's an Alien MT in at least 1 pool insystem, there's usually an Experimental or 2 to find, a pretty good chance for a starter Pistol, very probably 1-3 Pistols/Rifles with crystal accessory/ies, and all but guaranteedly 2-4 P/Rs with horn accessories.

So I usually judge whether I care to scout a whole system based on the SS cabinet - if it has an Alien or Experimental, I scout 100% without a 2nd thought. If it's a Starter Pistol/basic MT with Crystal, at minimum I'll find an A Class cabinet and do reloads to see what all can spawn as S Class insystem, and if it's a basic MT with Horns, I usually do the A Class cabinet, but 30-40% of the time I just warp to next system

[slow ledge]

I got a pistol with horns, but the colors aren’t great. I’d really like a nice experimental

[blissful sedge]

Well if you are looking for an experimental I found a couple.

[marble wind]

how do i find that sentinel multitool looking thing

[gleaming stream]

If you mean a Sentinel Pillar, you can get the location by defeating 5th level of Sentinels on planet

You will get a marker on your HUD

Note that not all pillars spawn the fancy royal Mutlitools

[marble wind]

ah gotcha, okay how do i find a aggressive sentinel planet?

been warping alot and havent found one

[boreal obsidian]

if there are any sentinels on the planet you can always just shoot them

[pale vapor]

cant you just buy pillar charts from the space station?

[golden timber]

Black market drops can have them I think

[gleaming stream]

Yup and some Buried Caches on planets

Or can drop from Salvaged Glass from Sentinels

Still defeating Sentinels is the surefire way to get the marker on your HUD

[marble wind]

royal multitool anyone

[upper harness]

locations and all

[marble wind]

im confused on the first 2 i cant find the tool

i followed the instructions

[shy scroll]

I'll be heading there today.. those are awesome lookin

[blissful sedge]

As of the last update I personally checked all the locations and confirmed they still work.

If you go to the glyph coordinates, and follow the instructions you should be able to find the tools listed easily

[shy scroll]

When I try, I'll keep you posted if I got it or not

[spice shuttle]

were you maybe in multiplayer?

im not sure how MT spawning works but ik it gets borked in multiplayer somehow

i think its bc multiplayer saves whether someone already bought the tool or not, while singleplayer only saves whether the MT is there or not based on if you bought it

[shy scroll]

ummm do i need to get this from a sentinal tower thing?

cause i went for the orange 1 on the left...and all that is here is a sent tower and someones base

[shy scroll]

What kind of building are they in?

[feral marlin]

Yeah. Royals are in Sentinel Towers.

[upper harness]

Man, I just got it off of Google.

[shy scroll]

ahh ty was getting groceries anyway atm lol

[spice shuttle]

all sentinel towers have an option that says "extract weapons technology" and if you click that you get the option to claim a damaged MT. so you have to repair it, same as a crashed ship.

[shy scroll]

ahhh was super easy tyvm much appreciated

although it is c class...it is the right weapon , i just assumed it would be s class

[vague geyser]

I don't think anyone has ever found a royal mt in S class, a very few are A and some B, the bulk are C class

[cursive yoke]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/471868642204712971/1070504329036972093/image.png

[rigid finch]

Are you at least going to upgrade that a little? 🙂

[cursive yoke]

prob later ngl

[harsh marsh]

damage potential 62K and you want him to upgrade it?

[pulsar charm]

Thie be in Eucliid.

[rigid finch]

half tongue-in-cheek, other half, if you understand module placement even a little, then it would be clear that the modules were thrown on haphazardly, and a MT with ALL slots supercharged through an editor, the stats should be 4 times that

[sand scaffold]

so its not achievable through gameplay ?

[rigid finch]

not any way that I know of

[shy scroll]

i found this weird multitool, anyone see one before?