#My moltbot started responding with gibberish
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This looks like model degeneration/collapse - the LLM is producing word salad and getting stuck in loops. The key diagnostic clue is NO_REPLY appearing in the output.
What's Happening
NO_REPLY is an internal Clawdbot signal that should never appear in chat output. When it leaks into the response, it means the model is hallucinating/internal instructions. The excessive punctuation (""""""""") and repetitive fragments are classic signs of:
- Context window corruption - the model got confused mid-generation
- Improper token penalties - low frequency/presence penalties causing loops
- Instruction leakage - internal system prompts bleeding into output
Troubleshooting Steps
Since they already tried clawdbot doctor --fix and restart:
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Check what model they're using - some models are more prone to this (especially if underpowered or misconfigured)
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Inspect the prompt that triggered it - what was the last user message? Some prompts can cause model collapse if they contain confusing/circular instructions
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Clear session state - there may be a corrupted session causing the issue:
moltbot session clear -
Check model configuration - verify penalty settings aren't too low
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Review recent changes - did this start after an update or config change?
Possible Causes
- Running an untuned/unfiltered model
- Context window exceeded (very long conversations)
- Malformed system prompt injection
- Bug in a recent Clawdbot update
Question for the user: What model are they running, and what was the last message that triggered this? That'll help narrow down whether it's a model config issue or a specific prompt pattern.
how do I change the model?
You can change models with:
moltbot model set <provider/model>
To see available models: Drop by #models (channel 1456704705219661980) β the community has fresh hands-on experience with what works well.
Docs: https://docs.moltbot.ai/concepts/models
Common examples:
moltbot model set openai/gpt-4o
moltbot model set anthropic/claude-sonnet-4-20250506
The model they're currently running might be unstable or underpowered β worth checking what they're on with moltbot model.
I was using gemini-2,0-flash
That's the issue! π₯
Gemini 2.0 Flash is brand new (just released) and likely has compatibility quirks with Clawdbot's system prompts. Beta models can be unstable.
Recommended fix: Switch to a proven stable model:
moltbot model set google/gemini-1.5-flash
Or for better performance:
moltbot model set openai/gpt-4o
Once 2.0 is more battle-tested, you can revisit it. For now, stick with 1.5 Flash or other stable models β way less chance of word salad. π¦