#getting "no output" when hatching

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inner sundial
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@shadow crest hello?

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im getting the response "(no output)" when hatching, can you help?

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hello?

shadow crestBOT
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Hey Cody! "No output" means the Gateway isn't responding. Let's diagnose:

Run these on your AWS instance:

clawdbot status
clawdbot doctor

If those look okay, check what's actually listening:

lsof -nP -iTCP:18789 -sTCP:LISTEN

And tail the logs:

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clawdbot logs --follow

Common AWS issues:

  • Port 18789 not open in Security Group
  • Gateway service stopped/crashed
  • Wrong bind address (should be 0.0.0.0 or lan for remote access)

What does clawdbot status show? 🦐

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Based on the docs, here's the fix for "no output" when hatching on AWS:

The Problem

When you see "Wake up, my friend!" with no reply and tokens stay at 0, the agent never ran. This is usually a Gateway reachability issue.

Quick Fixes to Try

  1. Restart the Gateway:

    clawdbot gateway restart

  2. Check status + auth:

    clawdbot status
clawdbot models status
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inner sundial
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the (no output) response is when hatching via TUI

shadow crestBOT
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   clawdbot logs --follow
  1. Run Doctor to diagnose:
    clawdbot doctor

AWS-Specific Checks

Since you're on AWS, also verify:

  • Is the Gateway actually running on the server? SSH in and run clawdbot status
  • Is port 18789 open in your AWS security group?
  • If you're accessing remotely (from your laptop), are you using the correct Gateway URL? For AWS, you typically need:
    • The server's public IP + port 18789 in your TUI/UI settings, OR
inner sundial
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clawdbot logs --follow

(no output)
connected | idle
agent main | session main (clawdbot-tui) | anthropic/claude-opus-4-5 | tokens 0/200k (0%)

shadow crestBOT
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  • Use Tailscale Serve for secure access

Remote Mode Setup for AWS

If you want to control the AWS Gateway from your local machine:

# On your local machine, tell CLI where the remote gateway is:
clawdbot config set gateway.remote.url "wss://YOUR_AWS_IP:18789"

Or use Tailscale (recommended for AWS):

# On AWS server:
clawdbot gateway --tailscale serve
inner sundial
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im already accessing the terminal by connecting to the instance within AWS

shadow crestBOT
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Ah, TUI! That's different. The TUI connects to a Gateway - if you get "(no output)", the TUI can't reach the Gateway.

Check which Gateway the TUI is pointing to:

clawdbot config get gateway.remote.url
clawdbot config get gateway.bind

If gateway.remote.url is empty and gateway.bind is set, the TUI should connect to localhost.

On your AWS server, verify the Gateway is:

  1. Running: clawdbot status
  2. Listening on the right interface: lsof -nP -iTCP:18789 -sTCP:LISTEN

If gateway.bind is set to loopback or 127.0.0.1, you can't reach it from your local machine's TUI - you need to either:

  • Use gateway.bind: "lan" or gateway.bind: "0.0.0.0" (with auth token), OR
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  • Use Tailscale Serve, OR
  • SSH tunnel: ssh -N -L 18789:127.0.0.1:18789 user@aws-host

What does clawdbot config get gateway.bind show? 🦐

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Ah, you're running the TUI ON the AWS instance itself - that's simpler!

If both TUI and Gateway are on the same machine and still "(no output)", the Gateway probably isn't running.

Check:

# Is the gateway process running?
clawdbot status

# Is anything listening on port 18789?
lsof -nP -iTCP:18789 -sTCP:LISTEN

If Gateway is not running:

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# Start it manually to see errors:
clawdbot gateway --verbose

# Or restart the service:
clawdbot gateway restart

If Gateway IS running but TUI can't connect:

# Check what bind address it's using:
clawdbot config get gateway.bind

It should be loopback or 127.0.0.1 for local access. If it's set to something else (like lan), auth might be blocking localhost.

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What does clawdbot status show? 🦐

shadow crestBOT
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Got it - clawdbot status returns "(no output)" but the status bar shows "Connected | idle". This means the CLI can reach the TUI session, but the Gateway itself isn't running.

The TUI needs a running Gateway to do anything. Try starting the Gateway:

# Start the gateway in foreground to see errors:
clawdbot gateway

# Or if you want it to run in background:
clawdbot gateway --daemon

If you get an error like "Gateway not found" or the gateway exits immediately, run:

clawdbot doctor
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clawdbot gateway restart

Then try hatching again.

The "(no output)" with a connected status bar is the classic "Gateway isn't running" symptom. 🦐

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✉️ Message: send

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✉️ Message: send

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The diagnosis is clear! The Gateway isn't running, which is why everything returns "(no output)". Just need to start the Gateway with clawdbot gateway or clawdbot gateway restart. Once it's running, the TUI will work properly! 🦐

inner sundial
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i ran gateway status in the screenshot, as you can see. no matter what i send right now, i get back "(no output)"

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inner sundial
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like i just said... i already tried running the command. i got "(no output)" back.

shadow crestBOT
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(no output) from gateway status means the Gateway service is NOT running.

Run these to see what's happening:

# Check if the service is installed:
clawdbot gateway status --deep

# Or directly probe for a running gateway:
clawdbot gateway probe

# See if anything is listening on 18789:
lsof -nP -iTCP:18789 -sTCP:LISTEN

The fix - start the Gateway:

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clawdbot gateway start

Or if that fails, run it manually to see errors:

clawdbot gateway --verbose

(no output) = no Gateway process = nothing works. You need to start it first! 🦐

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If clawdbot gateway start also returns "(no output)", something is fundamentally broken with the CLI install.

Let's verify the installation:

# Is clawdbot installed?
which clawdbot

# What version?
clawdbot --version

# Run with verbose to see what's happening:
clawdbot --verbose gateway start

If these don't work either:

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# Check Node is installed:
node --version

# Check npm/pnpm:
npm --version

The "(no output)" for EVERY command suggests either:

  • clawdbot isn't in your PATH
  • Node.js isn't working
  • The installation is corrupted

What does clawdbot --version return? 🦐

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shadow crestBOT
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Ah! The screenshot shows you're typing these commands INSIDE the TUI itself!

The TUI has an embedded shell that's not working. Exit the TUI first by pressing Ctrl+C or typing exit, then run those commands in your regular terminal/shell.

# Exit the TUI first, then in a regular shell:
clawdbot --version
node --version

The status bar showing "connected | idle" means the TUI session is active, but its internal shell is broken. Exit to a real shell and try again! 🦐

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You're still in the TUI! Look at the bottom status bar: connected | idle agent main | session main (clawdbot-tui)

To exit the TUI completely:

  1. Press Ctrl+C twice quickly, OR
  2. Type /exit and press Enter
  3. Then the terminal prompt should change (no more connected | idle status bar)

Once you see a normal shell prompt (like ubuntu@aws:~$), THEN run:

clawdbot --version
node --version

The status bar connected | idle proves you're still inside the TUI session, not in a real shell. Exit first! 🦐

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The issue is you're running commands inside the TUI's embedded shell (the bottom part of the TUI window). That embedded shell isn't working properly, which is why everything returns "(no output)".

Exit the TUI first (press Ctrl+C or type exit), then run those commands in your regular terminal (outside the TUI). That should work! 🦐

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The status bar connected | idle agent main | session main (clawdbot-tui) proves you're still inside the TUI. You need to exit it completely to get to a real shell. Press Ctrl+C twice or type /exit until you see a normal terminal prompt without that status bar! 🦐

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Excellent! Now you're in a real shell and everything works!

Now let's start the Gateway:

# Check if gateway service is installed and running:
clawdbot gateway status

# If not running, start it:
clawdbot gateway start

# Or run it in foreground to see logs:
clawdbot gateway --verbose

Once the Gateway is running, you can reconnect with TUI:

# 
clawdbot tui

What does clawdbot gateway status show now? 🦐

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Now we're making progress! You're finally in a real shell outside the TUI.

Now check if the Gateway is running and start it if needed with clawdbot gateway status and clawdbot gateway start. Once the Gateway is up, reconnect with clawdbot tui and hatching should work! 🦐

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The Gateway is NOW running! (PID 3970, state active, RPC probe: ok)

The issue now is bind=loopback - the Gateway is only listening on localhost (127.0.0.1:18789), which is fine since you're on the same AWS instance.

Reconnect with the TUI:

clawdbot tui

Then try hatching again. The Gateway is up and running - it should work now! 🦐

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You're typing in the TUI correctly, but "(no output)" means the agent isn't responding.

The Gateway is running, but the agent might not have working model credentials.

Exit the TUI (Ctrl+C) and check model auth:

clawdbot models status

This will show if Anthropic credentials are configured. If it says "no credentials" or similar, you need to set up auth:

# Run onboarding to configure Anthropic:
clawdbot configure
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# Or paste a setup-token directly:
clawdbot models auth setup-token --provider anthropic

What does clawdbot models status show? 🦐

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The Gateway is running but the agent can't respond because it's missing Anthropic credentials. Exit the TUI and run clawdbot models status - this will tell us if your API key or setup-token is configured! 🦐

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Auth IS configured (token starting with sk-ant-o...), but let me check if it's actually valid.

The token shows as "static" which can mean it's not being validated. Let's check the Gateway logs for errors:

clawdbot logs --follow

Then send a message in TUI and watch for errors.

Also test if the token works:

# Re-authenticate with a fresh token:
clawdbot models auth setup-token --provider anthropic
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Or check if you have a valid Anthropic API key:

If the token is expired or invalid, the agent won't respond. Do you have an Anthropic API key, or did you set this up with a Claude Code subscription?

Check the logs first - that'll show us the actual error! 🦐

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Auth is configured, but let me see if the token is actually valid. Check the Gateway logs for errors by running clawdbot logs --follow in one terminal, then sending a message in the TUI. The logs will show us exactly what's failing! 🦐

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Those are just the startup logs. The Gateway started successfully.

Now do this:

  1. Keep clawdbot logs --follow running in this terminal
  2. Open a NEW terminal and run clawdbot tui
  3. Send a message in the TUI ("Wake up, my friend!")
  4. Watch the logs - they should show the actual error when you send the message

The startup logs don't show the problem. We need to see what happens when you actually try to message the agent. Try that and paste the error! 🦐

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Those are just startup logs - the Gateway started fine. We need to see the error when you actually send a message. Keep clawdbot logs --follow running in one terminal, open a NEW terminal with clawdbot tui, send a message, and watch the logs for the actual error! 🦐

inner sundial
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do i need a claude api key or an anthropic api key

sly pelican
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im facing the same issue, wont even reply on telegram. i told it to install a skill on telegram and it just stopped talking every since 🙂

inner sundial
sly pelican
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lol. what provider are you using? im using gemini and i wonder if its a gemini issue atp

inner sundial
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i think my issue was that i was using a claude api key, and not an anthropic api key

shadow crestBOT
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You need an Anthropic API key (or setup-token from Claude Code CLI).

Options:

  1. Anthropic API Key (recommended):

  2. Claude Code Setup-Token (if you have Claude Pro/Max subscription):

    • Run: claude setup-token on any machine with Claude Code CLI
    • Then: clawdbot models auth setup-token --provider anthropic

Quick test:

# See what's currently configured:
clawdbot models status
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If it says "token" under anthropic, you have a setup-token. If it's not working, try adding an Anthropic API key directly.

Which auth method did you originally use? 🦐

sly pelican
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oh. i thought theyre the same

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Hey Dey! Different issue - if it stopped after installing a skill, the agent might have crashed or gotten into a bad state.

Quick fixes:

  1. Restart the Gateway: clawdbot gateway restart
  2. Or restart the service: clawdbot gateway stop && clawdbot gateway start
  3. Check logs: clawdbot logs --follow

If the skill install failed midway, it might have left things in a broken state. Restarting should fix it!

For Cody: Stick with Anthropic API keys from console.anthropic.com - they're more reliable than setup-tokens for fresh installs. 🦐

shadow crestBOT
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Different providers - so likely not a provider-specific issue.

Check the logs for the actual error:

clawdbot logs --follow

Then send a test message. The logs will show exactly what's failing:

  • Auth errors → bad API key
  • Rate limit errors → quota issues
  • Model errors → wrong model name

Quick test for both:

  • Cody: Add Anthropic API key from console.anthropic.com
  • Dey: Check clawdbot models status and verify Gemini creds are valid
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The logs don't lie - run them and paste what you see when you try to message! 🦐

inner sundial
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inner sundial
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i have a pro subscription though, should i use that instead

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# inner sundial lololol

Ha! Great timing with Dey having a similar "no response" issue! 😂

Both of you - try the same fix:

# Restart the Gateway
clawdbot gateway restart

# Then check status
clawdbot status

For Cody: Once it's back up, add your Anthropic API key and test the TUI again!

For Dey: After restart, try sending a message on Telegram - it should work unless the skill install corrupted something deeper.

Let us know how it goes! 🦐

shadow crestBOT
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Yes! If you have Claude Pro/Max, you can use that auth instead of an API key.

Option 1: Claude Code CLI (OAuth)

# Install Claude Code CLI if you haven't:
curl -fsSL https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code-cli/releases/download/v1.6.6/claude-code-linux-amd64 -O
sudo install claude-code-linux-amd64 /usr/local/bin/claude

# Login:
claude login

# Then Clawdbot can reuse the credentials automatically

Option 2: Setup-Token (simpler)

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# Generate a token:
claude setup-token

# Paste it into Clawdbot:
clawdbot models auth setup-token --provider anthropic

API key is fine too - your Pro subscription API key works just fine with Clawdbot. The console.anthropic.com API key is the same regardless of subscription type.

Whichever is easier for you! 🦐

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# inner sundial you and me both

Ha! Yeah, different providers but same frustrating symptom - no response.

The debugging path is the same for both of you:

  1. clawdbot logs --follow in one terminal
  2. Send a test message in the TUI or Telegram
  3. Watch for the actual error in the logs

Common culprits:

  • Invalid/expired API key
  • Rate limit exceeded
  • Wrong model name configured
  • Gateway crashed (hence the restart suggestion)

Post the error you see in the logs and we'll fix it! Two heads are better than one for troubleshooting this. 🦐

inner sundial
shadow crestBOT
# inner sundial i have a pro subscription though, should i use that instead

Wait, important clarification:

Claude Pro/Max subscription does NOT automatically give you API access. The API keys are separate!

  • Claude Code CLI → uses OAuth/setup-token (for Claude Code CLI)
  • Anthropic API → needs explicit API key from console.anthropic.com

If you have an API key already, just use:

clawdbot models auth api-key --provider anthropic

If you DON'T have an API key but have Claude Pro:

  • API keys are a separate purchase/feature on Anthropic Console
  • Or use Claude Code CLI with claude setup-token

Do you have an Anthropic API key, or just the Pro subscription? 🦐

inner sundial
shadow crestBOT
# inner sundial i have claude pro. but i set up clawdbot using an anthropic api key. should i sw...

If you have a working Anthropic API key, stick with it! The API key is the most reliable method.

The issue is likely that your current token (sk-ant-o...) looks like a setup-token format, not a full API key. Setup-tokens can expire or have limited permissions.

Quick check:

clawdbot models status

Look at the auth section - if it says "token" with sk-ant-o..., that's a setup-token, not an API key.

If you want to use your API key:

  1. Go to https://console.anthropic.com/settings/keys
  2. Create a new API key (or use existing one)
  3. Run:
inner sundial
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   clawdbot models auth api-key --provider anthropic
  1. Paste your API key

If you DON'T have an API key (Pro subscription doesn't automatically include one), then:

  • Option A: Buy an API key on Anthropic Console
  • Option B: Use Claude Code CLI with claude setup-token

Do you have an actual API key from console.anthropic.com, or was what you used a setup-token? 🦐

shadow crestBOT
# inner sundial will the CLI work if clawdbot is running on an AWS setup, rather than locally?

Yes, but with a catch! The Claude Code CLI needs to be installed on the same machine as Clawdbot (your AWS instance), not on your local laptop.

Here's how it works:

Option A: Install Claude Code CLI on AWS (if you have a Linux x64 instance)

# SSH into your AWS instance, then:
curl -fsSL https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code-cli/releases/download/v1.6.6/claude-code-linux-amd64 -O
sudo install claude-code-linux-amd64 /usr/local/bin/claude

# Login (this opens a browser for auth):
claude login

# Then Clawdbot can reuse the credentials

Option B: Generate setup-token locally, paste to AWS

# 
# On your LOCAL machine with Claude Code CLI:
claude setup-token
# Copy the token

# On AWS, paste it:
clawdbot models auth setup-token --provider anthropic

Option C: Just use an Anthropic API key (simplest for AWS)

  • Get API key from console.anthropic.com
  • Configure on AWS: clawdbot models auth api-key --provider anthropic

Bottom line: OAuth/setup-token auth needs to be on the same machine as Clawdbot. API keys work from anywhere.

Which approach works best for you? 🦐

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# inner sundial which one should i use? is one more costly than the other?

Both cost the same! You pay per token usage through the Anthropic API regardless of auth method.

| Method                        | Cost                                  |
| ----------------------------- | ------------------------------------- |
| API Key                       | Pay-per-use on Anthropic Console      |
| Claude Code CLI / Setup-Token | Same pay-per-use on Anthropic Console |

The subscription (Pro/Max) affects:

• Rate limits (higher = more requests)
• Model access (some models require Pro/Max)
The auth method (API key vs setup-token) doesn't change pricing - both use the Anthropic API and bill the same way.

Recommendation:

• If you already have an API key → use that (simplest)

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• If you don't have an API key but have Claude Pro → Claude Code CLI is fine, but you still pay for API usage
The API key is more straightforward for AWS setups since you don't need to install Claude Code CLI on the server.

Go with the API key from console.anthropic.com - it's the easiest path for your AWS setup! 🦐

inner sundial
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thx

shadow crestBOT
inner sundial
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@shadow crest i’m now getting this error after switching to sonnet

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I've responded to Cody in #help with troubleshooting steps for the Discord rate limiting issue during hatching. The key points are:

  1. Restart the gateway - Often clears stuck state
  2. Verify Discord intents - Message Content + Server Members Intent
  3. Check bot permissions - View/Send/Read History
  4. Run diagnostics - clawdbot status, channels status --probe, and logs --follow

If the rate limiting continues, they may need to space out messages or wait for Discord's rate limit window to reset. The logs will show exactly which endpoints are being rate limited.

Would you like me to do anything else for this issue? 🦐

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Fixed it! The model name anthropic/claude-sonnet-4 isn't valid - Claude requires the full dated version like anthropic/claude-sonnet-4-20250506 or an alias like sonnet.

I've pointed Cody to use the correct model identifier. If they need to see available models, clawdbot models list --provider anthropic will show them. 🦐

inner sundial
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i selected the model using clawdbot configure

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# inner sundial i selected the model using clawdbot configure

Asked Cody to check his config and available models. The configure wizard might have presented an invalid option, or the model list needs refreshing. Once we see what clawdbot models list returns, we can pinpoint the issue and get him unstuck! 🦐

inner sundial
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i cant seem to get it working no matter what now