users-helping-users

[winged lagoon]

openclaw gateway restart tell me wich model provider do u use ?

@blazing willow try OpenAi subscription then add provider via openclaw configure model > codex openAi > gpt-5.5

[thorn lark]

app has configured but now bot is not replying,

[winged lagoon]

@thorn lark are u sure all auth scopes are added into slack application ?

[blazing willow]

how do you guys do youtube and linkedin processes through openclaw? through a skill called composio?

[thorn lark]

yes all scopes has added in app
OpenclawAi  [1:55 PM]
Okay, this is a test using the direct channel ID (C0AV1HMDENT) provided by the new diagnostic command. If you can see this, the problem is solved! 🤖
Awais Ali  [1:55 PM]
hi
[1:59 PM]@OpenclawAi what's the weather like?
Awais Ali  [2:14 PM]
@OpenclawAi hi
Awais Ali  [2:20 PM]
@OpenclawAi hi

[slate minnow]

Currently qwen 3.6 27B

Nice, what context size are you using. I am testing with 65578 but pretty restrictive by looks of it.

[thorny yacht]

I have the same problem. It was suggesting to upgrade. But now its like watching paint dry

[main hemlock]

downgrade to 23

[granite ocean]

I've been seeing that tip since 24. Wth is happening with the development of openclaw?

[keen trellis]

im gonna click that upgrade button now, still on .15

lets see if it works :d

yay, its broken!

gotta love this kind of development

[main hemlock]

from what i am seeing a lot of the structure is getting a rework and things are breaking/missed in this process

[main hemlock]

i did make it work with claude cowork

[keen trellis]

im using antigravity now to fix it

[marsh bolt]

I’m through the worst of the upgrade to 4.24/25/26 I think now. It seems ok this morning but I’ll keep y’all posted. I had to run the curl upgrade to go from 23 to 25.

[granite ocean]

"our servers are busy" lol

[keen trellis]

works fine here

[main hemlock]

this is what claude summarized for my issues, maybe it helps if yours is slow and unstable as well:
openclaw 2026.4.25/4.26 triage guide
If openclaw is slow, crashing, or agents aren't responding after a recent update, check these in order:
Run openclaw doctor and remove any stale plugins.load.paths entries for plugins now bundled in dist/extensions/ — they cause hundreds of config warnings per message.
If startup takes 2+ minutes, check lcm.db size and the conversations table — active-memory accumulates hundreds of orphaned sub-sessions that lossless-claw bootstraps on every boot. Fix by adding statelessSessionPatterns: [":active-memory:"] to the lossless-claw plugin config. If the UI is still slow after that, switch plugins.slots.contextEngine to "legacy".
If agents get stuck processing for 5+ minutes and restarts keep deferring, the culprit is QMD collection conflicts in memory-core (bugs #58618, #65062, unfixed in 2026.4.26). Look for collection name already exists and timed out after 30000ms in gateway.err.log. Fix by running: find ~/.openclaw/agents -name "index.yml" -path "*/qmd/index.yml" -exec sh -c 'echo "collections: {}" > "$1"' _ {} ; before restarting — forces a clean re-registration on next boot.
Check ~/.openclaw/plugin-runtime-deps/ for leftover directories from old versions and delete everything except the current one (issue #72933).

[hoary kindle]

hi guys.. someone also cannot auth with codex today ? i go tsome problems... im really in problems here for my work

[marsh bolt]

Im using 100k. Not using these models for much.

Yes there was a reason why they had to delay bots coming online related to the discord api

[zenith quartz]

xiaomi models quite cool btw

[dawn kernel]

I am experiencing imessage attachments are no longer coming through once i setup a multi-agent deployment and I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced similiar...

The image tool's allowed directory list is built per agent, using each agent's workspace directory as the base.

So:

• main can read from ~/.openclaw/state/workspace (my workspace)
• user2 would get their own scoped roots based on workspace-user2

Neither agent gets /Users/<me>/Library/Messages/Attachments automatically — where the actual attachments live on my filesystem and where the bug lives.

I imagine I could fork this and make the change but curious if the team and others has found this/similar issues

[still flax]

Hey guys hope someone could help me im very new in openclaw
I can only send messages with the console - if i send with the webui my message is loading - sending - llm is thinking and then my message dissapear.

If i do it in console everything is fine

Im running it on linux and using google gemini

Hope u have solutions

[keen trellis]

ask your bot to investigate it

i got that latest update working but it feels replies are so much slower now

[meager vessel]

I am tired of Google OAuth-token that expires.. what are you guys using?

[keen trellis]

i think all oauth logins have expiry date

[meager vessel]

its expires every 7 day and i have to re-auth again for get gmail be working

[keen trellis]

one thing to do once every 7 days, that takes few seconds...
gen z?

also, you can automate it

[idle venture]

Anyone using telegram or a different channel and they update to the latest version but because the gateway stops their channel goes silent and you have to go back to your base machine and restart the gateway through terminal or some other means? Level thing I keep trying to get around. I’m figuring out how to update your telegram and not having to be on my base machine for the gateway to restart.

[keen trellis]

im using telegram and didnt have to do this

to be honest, onc ei get things to work, i think im done updating openclaw

[winged moth]

has anyone used claude superpowers paired with openclaw or a coding agent? How is it going? Does it help you?

[meager vessel]

i am not going to update openclaw, broke mine at 24.. revert back to 23 now its working

[untold smelt]

What models would yall recommend for my openclaw setup? I don’t plan to do big coding projects or anything, mainly menial tasks, doing docs and PowerPoints, and some things that require openclaw to navigate a browser maybe a couple times a week.

I’m not sure what I should use and if I should get a sub to a certain company or just use openrouter

[candid plaza]

Question for anyone using MiniMax 2.7, do you have thinking (agents.thinking.default) turned on or off

[snow thicket]

again with the latest openclaw update, the gateway frequently restarts

@_@

[pearl bobcat]

The latest version is killing my WhatsApp 😂 keep disconnecting and unreachable

[strong ferry]

claude superpowers? are those some new skills?

[strong ferry]

you configured everything in the cloud console properly? is the app published or testing?

[strong ferry]

if you are using gemini models using oauth then dont , google may ban you so be aware of it

[winged moth]

https://github.com/obra/superpowers#the-basic-workflow

nope, this link should explain it succinctly, don't want to copy and paste the list I link to in the readme, but essentially it's a popular development workflow skill for claude, curious if anyone has used it effectively, or if it was just hyped up for being one of the first repos to create something like it and instead causes headaches/slop

I'm in the process of trying to find a workflow that works well, whether that's a more hands on one like what I assume superpowers is like (I haven't used it), or something like the oh my opencode (which seems to have a lot of headaches from what I've heard), I'm just interested in gathering experiences from folks. I still haven't tried either of these though, so idk, there's quite a few new workflows floating around atm, including openclaw ones too

[strong ferry]

did you check skills.sh?

or maybe you already did

[marsh bolt]

API key

[marsh bolt]

What do you mean by 'do youtube and linkedin'. Just post to it? You don't really need a special skill for that - tell your agent what you want it to do and ask him to create a skill from what he figures out. Just guide him through the chat for what you need and make the skill yourself.

[random sentinel]

I have been fighting Slack channel integration for a couple of weeks and would be grateful for help on this issue. - #1474436267705106586 message

[winged moth]

thanks, yup, I did, the two I liked the most from searching for non-workflow skills were:
https://skills.sh/anthropics/skills/frontend-design
https://claude.com/plugins/context7

but I like them mostly because they are very isolated and not heavyhanded (they don't prescribe a ton of examples that then get interpreted in the context window as "what to do everytime")

There were some others that I was planning to check out, if you've tried em, lmk:
https://skills.sh/shadcn/ui/shadcn (there's a google labs one of this as well, they're both pretty heavy handed)
https://skills.sh/vercel-labs/agent-skills/vercel-react-best-practices
https://skills.sh/vercel-labs/agent-skills/deploy-to-vercel
https://skills.sh/vercel-labs/agent-browser/agent-browser
there's also a self improving one, but tbh, it doesn't seem like it has as much support as the built in self improvement routines that openclaw has, so I don't think it will survive over time

In any case, I'm not really looking for skills per se, more so workflows. That superpowers skill is actually a workflow, not really a skill, like ralph or oh my opencode for example

oh also, I'm also looking for a testing skill, particularly integration or smoke testing that includes running things from the OS or from some virtualization layer like docker or vm of some sort, seems claude likes to instantly default to unit tests, which of course ignore all the permission layers that macos or a operating system introduce

[strange zodiac]

having issues with running openclaw with gpt-oss-120b on my dgx spark, anyone have it workign .24 release. I am running on docker/vllm

[frail verge]

new user trying to get setup rumor has it version 22 is the go to is there a way to get this using ollama?

[mighty rampart]

4.24 is problematic. Isn’t there a 4.25 out now? Otherwise go back to 4.23.

[wary flint]

.25 is doing well, not sure about .26 (out now)

Correction: .25 had some memory/ issues

@frail verge Yes. It's a little convoluted but yes. I managed to make it happen by having a well tuned agent write a fresh copy of openclaw.json for easy quick-swap testing. Mine worked by installing the ollama desktop app (Mac OS).

[leaden heron]

I think OpenRouter is definitly a great place to start to experiment with different models and see, how you personally like them. If you have a few $ to spend on tokens, that's the place to do it.

Having said that, for the last few days I did try out Codex 5.5 on the OpenAI subscription and was very happy with it. Since yesterday I switched to Kimi K2.6 on a Kimi Code Subscription (Moderato, ca. $20/month) and I am just as happy with that one so far. I think you would do nothing wrong with either of them.

[strange zodiac]

still getting "⚠️ Something went wrong while processing your request. Please try again, or use /new to start a fresh session." and 11:19:00 [agent/embedded] empty response detected: runId=076c9404-a8c2-408b-a176-2d494de358fb sessionId=5364bbba-21d0-4640-ab7d-3f970c387422 provider=vllm/openai/gpt-oss-120b — retrying 1/1 with visible-answer continuation

[untold smelt]

Alright. I’ll check out some different models. The thing is tho that I don’t plan to do any code with openclaw, at least not rn

[leaden heron]

That makes good sense. Same here. I have Claude Code on the same VPS as my OpenCLAW. It does the heavy lifting of coding. It is also my DevOps, watchdog and troubleshooter for OpenCLAW, so that I don't have to care about that installation.

[humble tide]

I have been having trouble since I upgraded to 4.24, then again at 4.25 and now 4.26. The gateway is having massive problems. The TUI interface will fail at times too. When things work they are very slow.

[humble tide]

I am having problems with 4.26 and also had issues with 4.25 and 4.24. Is 4.23 working...I was on a lower verion prior to that

[vivid palm]

@mighty rampart Hi everything was running fine for months then my WhatsApp stopped responding when I message the bot, I have tried so many things to get it working but I can’t, I am a novice and need some help please

[past rune]

Sales&Admin Agent — A human-in-the-loop AI sales agent for WhatsApp**

I built an AI sales agent for my furniture business that handles the entire customer journey on WhatsApp — in Albanian.

Customers ask about products, the agent checks live inventory from PostgreSQL, answers with real prices, and collects order details. When someone's ready to buy, it queues the order, reserves the stock, and pings me on Telegram for approval. One tap to approve — then the customer gets a WhatsApp confirmation and the order writes to the database.

No chatbot scripts. No hard-coded responses. The agent reads Markdown prompt files and decides which CLI tool to run. Policy lives in text files. Logic lives in testable Python scripts.

Built with: OpenClaw (WhatsApp gateway), Python, PostgreSQL, Telegram Bot API, Streamlit dashboard, OpenAI for product text parsing.

-But it is not working correctly and according to my instructions

[strong ferry]

well i dont think you need the deploy to vercel so much. if i am correct then context7 is a mcp not a skill . the others i dont know about much

[normal eagle]

I'm having the same trouble. I've lost an entire day just trying to figure out what's wrong with .26 (upgraded from .23, which was humming along fine). Gateway is super fragile, web chat and discord are unreliable, and the gateway takes forever to restart, like it's waiting for a process to time out before it can continue....which super sucks, because I'm restarting like every 10 minutes with all of the unresponsiveness.

[undone meteor]

hey everyone, trent i might have you beat on this one. im a complete noob who jumped in at the deep end, finally got openclaw up and running last night after 3 days. set up agent with webui, sorted .md files, memory, got it to do a security patch from openclaw security page and other tasks. then lost conn to gateway an when i got back on agent wasnt responding for hours so i reset gateway, restarted openclaw in terminal and was met by crestodian bot. as im clueless i thought this was part of security patch my agent did, did bootstrapping with this bot, then it asked to overwrite .md files i said no with explicit instructions not to overwrite memory.md. when i got webui back up suddenly agent was back, told it situation so it created patch and gave me terminal command to use on startup which basicall auto started gateway and take me straight to webui to solve the issue. well term comm didnt work, tried normal way, new crestodian bot now in terminal, got to webui my agent gone, memory.md gone, crestodian bot i bootstrapped the first time now in a session in webui that i didnt create. what the hell have i done? if someone could plz help, sorry for the long post

[marsh bolt]

I struggled through this yesterday with the help of my agents that were sputtering along. Ask your agent to check the logs when you can get it going. Or, if you have Claude Code or Codex, point it at the ~./openclaw folder and ask it what's going on. In my case, it was slow because of 1) Huge context in all chats (use /reset or /new to clear), 2) redundant plugins (ask agent if there are any), 3) Fallback loops between agents who couldn't authenticate (start with one solid agent and remove all fallbacks, check logs for auth errors).

It was limping along last night when I went to bed and this morning seemed totally normal. Like it just needs to run for a while and barf out some old garbage. Could try just leaving the gateway to run for a couple hours until the CPU % goes down

I think restarting the gateway restarts some kind of purge it's doing.

There is light on the other side though! My 4.26 is pretty clean now and also GPT-5.5 seems way better - more Claude-like.

Also check out @main hemlock post above

[normal eagle]

Thanks for that Mike - I finally threw my hands in the air and installed codex directly and it's running through my setup right now. Currently 22 minutes in and counting...

[marsh bolt]

Oh - the other thing that was hogging CPU was the web chat. Closing that freed up most of it

[oak agate]

What's the most stable version at the moment?

[normal eagle]

2026.4.23, imo. You can get codex gpt-5.5 on it, and it runs smooth....or at least it did for me before I upgraded to .26. Now, ironically, codex gpt 5.5 is running directly on my machine trying to fix openclaw....

[icy fjord]

whats the gateway erorr ur encoutering? im getting something along the lines of "not reachable, missing operator.read". just want to see if others are having the same problem

[humble tide]

I have a whole markdown file but no way to post it

[icy fjord]

hm

markdown of the log?

[humble tide]

No I was able to do some diagnosing using openclaw to figure out what is actually going wrong. It's really meant for a developer I think

[icy fjord]

ah

[humble tide]

I just sent it to you via messaging

[visual canopy]

hello! I’m a swe migrating my manual openclaw sys (slack interface) to nix flake + home manager via the official openclaw/nix-openclaw repo

wondering if anyone who has a working system could help me with some confusion. i’m mainly not sure on what to expect after I build the flake on my mac-mini.

will I need to run the regular openclaw commands like openclaw onboard --install-daemon or will i just be able to run openclaw gateway start or even just openclaw doctor?

[gleaming wadi]

anyone know what the current situation is with claude code + openclaw is? i heard the enabled it again but haven't tried it in a while.

[mighty rampart]

https://docs.openclaw.ai/providers/anthropic

[slim herald]

Anyone else having issues with the heartbeat, particularly in conjunction with using messaging channels? Discord DM is my main interface with my bot, and every time it stops responding in DIscord, I open the Control UI to find it's having some kind of heartbeat-induced seizure. Tool loops, sessions sticking, the previous heartbeat response being routed to Discord instead of my agent's actual response to my latest message...

I'd disable the heartbeat and replace it with cron jobs, but the Dreaming system seems to rely on heartbeat for some reason.

[visual canopy]

my sys works with claude as of now, though it pulls from extra-usage api billing instead of my subscription usage, even in cli mode via oath.

cmds:

1. claude auth logic
2. openclaw models auth login —provider anthropic —method cli —set-default

[gleaming wadi]

i know how to hook it up, i've had it before. just havne't used it in like 2 months because anthropic seemed like they weren't down

[velvet cosmos]

I have openclaw and Ollama on 2 different VPS, connected via private SDWAN

[gleaming wadi]

depends on what you are trying to do. are you trying to have dual inference power and use something vllm or something?

[idle venture]

Anyone see this after the update in any channels when you hit, /new ... "One of "input" or "previous_response_id"or 'prompt'or 'conversation_id' must be provided."

[quiet comet]

what is yours doing? mine says "agent is typing" then stops and never sends a message

[earnest bluff]

Yes, I have the same issue with /new, /reset, /compact commands. Apparently, it’s fixed in .27.
v .23 is the most stable version atm. They’ve completely re-architected (or rather, messed with) the runtime in .24 onwards, especially for the Claude CLI. Previously, you could use the same chat and have multiple providers, but now you can’t. Everything else runs fine on pi, but Claude doesn’t. (if you’re using a subscription)

So, if you want Claude with a subscription and a flawless experience, set up a new agent that defaults to the claude-cli agentRuntime.

https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/issues/73204

[dusky loom]

Anyone else seeing sub agents fail constantly?

[normal eagle]

Sometimes it would do that to me in discord. I'd get the eyes emoji, then typing, then it would just get stuck on eyes. The bigger problem was the gateway startup was taking forever. Like, easily 10+ minutes, like it was waiting for something(s) to time out before proceeding. And the web chat in the control console would just show typing forever and I'd get no response.

I finally just downloaded codex directly to my pc and let gpg-5.5 sort it out. it took 2 hours, but now my machine is humming nicely and openclaw is working great. A bunch of custom changes that'll get wiped when I upgrade, I'm sure, but it works for now.

[spare socket]

Hi, hoping someone can help with a WhatsApp group message issue.

Running OpenClaw 2026.4.23 (WA plugin 2026.4.20) on macOS. After a fresh QR re-link today, WhatsApp DMs work fine but group messages are not arriving at the gateway at all — nothing in the logs, zero group traffic at the socket level.

Credentials show registered: False in creds.json after the re-link, which doesn't update to True even after multiple gateway restarts.

Background: yesterday OpenClaw auto-upgraded to 2026.4.26 while the gateway was live (my mistake). This broke group message reception. I rolled back to 2026.4.23 but groups are still broken. Done multiple fresh QR scans, wiped and recreated the credentials directory — DMs always work, groups never arrive.

Two questions:

1. Is registered: False a known issue with plugin 2026.4.20 / is it causing the group message problem?
2. Would a clean controlled upgrade to 2026.4.26 (gateway stopped first + fresh QR after) fix this — or does 2026.4.26 have its own group message bug?

Any help appreciated, been at this all day 🙏

[wary flint]

@spare socket

Whatever bugs .26 has, they're easier to "feel" than find. My setup is active but ... hmmm.

"If it were mmmmeeeeeeeee" (Oprah voice) ... I'd use openclaw configure to rebuild the whatsapp connection from scratch.

Question of my own:

What do I have to do to get "allow/deny" buttons in the Discord post thread? Everything keeps going to the DM, with the /approve slash command option only in the actual thread.

[latent hedge]

Mind if I send you a friend request to chat?

[spice smelt]

Hi,
Is there some good resource about how Task Flows work?
I read the docs but i'm not sure how to "trigger" or "build" task flows.
Can i somehoe pre-build a flow, a "state machine" and track it? or does openclaw just create a task flow automatically internally on-the-fly?

[earnest bluff]

Ask @sharp parcel , it’s a good bot for these queries

[foggy veldt]

Hello, the skill for claude specialy work if i download it for openclaw ? i use openai-codex provider:
https://mcpmarket.com/tools/skills/minecraft-mod-developer

[dusky loom]

no subagent issues for anyone else?

[fresh moon]

why is there only kimi 2.6 in opecode go?

[idle venture]

I’m leveraging OpenAi 5.5 as the main, via oauth, and Gemini fallbacks for the subagents. Sub agents are good with crons, but the main has been the issue since the latest update.

[robust dagger]

Hi @past rune what is not working, I have a similar solution so interested on your experience, which model are you using ?

[past rune]

at first I used gpt 4o mini for cheaper API, but it was very slow and hallucination . Now I have sales agent with gpt 5.4 mini and admis agent with 5.4 nano. But again during the conversation with the clients the sales agent is freezing and not returning messages, I don't know if it's a problem with the agent's md files or the .py scripts. What is your experience if you can share it, and do you have instagram and facebook messages connected or only whatsapp

[velvet cosmos]

no, I merely want to use a GPU server for Ollama and have openclaw on a remote server.

[misty vault]

Is anyone else having huge delays when booting up openclaw now?

[normal eagle]

Are you on 2026.4.26? I did...had to install codex and let gpt5.5 fix it. works great now though.

[misty vault]

Yes, I'll have to try that becuase its basically unusable. I've had this issue on 2 different bots. I'd recommend not upgrading.

[normal eagle]

Same. .23 was great for me. I went from .23 to .26 and I spent probably a total of about 10 hours trying to figure it out before just installing codex.

That said....it's fantastic now. I don't even know what codex did, but whatever it was it seems to be a huge upgrade in performance lol.

[mighty rampart]

Have Codex write down what it did. I have openclaw-runbook.md in the home directory and keep it updated with how to run the openclaw service, troubleshooting, etc.

[strong ferry]

i still have kimi k2.5 there too.

[distant hawk]

Hi, i'm having a few issues as when I ask the ai something (its linked to gemini), it just loads and loads - its been loading for over 40mins now. Does anyone have any tips on what I can do?

To make it faster

[half folio]

Hi guys, can someone let me know what the correct way to get gemini with API key working is? in my openclaw.json I have it as "gemini/gemini-2.5-flash" and in my models.json file I have this "gemini": {
"apiKey": "my API Key",
"api": "google",
"models": [
{
"id": "gemini-2.5-flash",
"name": "Gemini 2.5 Flash",
"api": "google",
"reasoning": false,

[dire widget]

just to throw in my .02cents here I just had to do a full rollback from .26->.23 .26 was unusable. I think it has something to do with the claude-cli routing getting in the way but i can't be certain.

[storm wren]

help, im using the same model, minimax m2.7, my old vps have an image understanding while the new one doesnt, why? it's a fresh installed openclaw it's builtin feature right?

[ornate nymph]

Updating to 2026.4.26, my OpenClaw has become slower. It responds slowly, gets stuck at times, and shows errors when restarting the gateway.

[misty vault]

Yah, I had to downgrade to 2026.04.23 to get it working again

[ornate nymph]

2026.04.23 has codex/gpt-5.5 model avaialble?

[misty vault]

Not sure TBH. Maybe 2026.04.24 would work, but I've already wasted tons of hours on this.

[ornate nymph]

Same here. I even tried using a fresh new VPS to make the 2026.4.26 work, but it didn't help.

[ebon shell]

Can i get a seperate model for vision as my main one doesnt support it

[wheat jewel]

Same here. Spent hours debugging but still rolled back in the end

[magic coral]

I have MX330 and 2 gb of vram. What models would you suggest me for openclaw?

[marsh bolt]

Looks like Dreaming started working for me somewhere between 4.24 and 4.26 so that's good

For those struggling to upgrade, might I suggest this: curl -fsSL https://openclaw.ai/install.sh | bash

Got me over the hump. Then I used sputtering agents to look at the logs and painstakingly fix remaining issues. Took around 4hrs, but worth it on the other side

[marsh bolt]

I'm assuming that future releases will build upon the cluster that was 4.24 and it will get easier (until the next cluster I predict at 5.17)

[normal eagle]

Yes, I was on .23 using codex gpt 5.5 before I tried updating to .26 and everything broke.

[wheat jewel]

What are sputtering agents?

[teal mural]

why have a convo with your agent when its going to up the cost of every heart beat, do i really need to /reset the chat and save memory every single time im done talking to it or is there a more efficient our automated way to do this?

[marsh bolt]

Slow gateway so they respond slowly

[wheat jewel]

Could you tell me how exactly to get gpt5.5 to fix 4.26? Do I install codex cli on my openclaw server and just tell it to fix it? 🙏

[tribal jacinth]

good evening guzs and galls

Excuse mz bad english ( from Hungary ) So I having trouble to get openclaw runing on mz mac mini M4 24GB with local LLM... is it possible to make it run? or I just waste mz time and need a Cloud big model ?

[normal eagle]

Yeah, I basically just went to the openai website and installed the cli. I already have the pro plan, so when the window opens up I just logged in then pointed it at the .openclaw directory and told it what was going on and what the problem was. Slow gateway restart, discord hanging, etc. I ran it on xhigh reasoning, which probably wasn't necessary, but I was so pissed I wasn't going to take any more chances. 😂

Anyway, it prompts you along the way to confirm before file changes, so just pay attention. My gpt 5.5 ended up disabling cron jobs and killing the discord channel entirely while it was figuring out what was going on, so after it was done I just asked it to re enable them and now everything works great.

[wide drift]

how can we rollback to .23 from .26?

[main hemlock]

imho waste of time, cloud will be way smarter and faster, try augmenting with a local model later

[mighty rampart]

What do you want it to do for you? If you want it to be able to modify itself and operate your computer on its own you need a very capable model.

[real anchor]

what are the best skills/tools/agents for a consistent persistent workflow with a structure/map/memory

[normal eagle]

I tried to roll back to .23 and it ended up auto updating to .26 again somewhere along the way, which is why I installed codex and just asked it to fix it for me.

Supposedly you can do something like 'npm install -g openclaw@2026.4.23' or something like that (not at my PC to verify syntax), which I did, but I still had problems. Sorry that's not more help. Just trying to give you info and let you decide what you want to do.

[wheat jewel]

i absolutely agree that it is a waste of time especially when you are new to this. Just get openai plus and roll with it. It will help you to learn much faster.

[icy fjord]

Hi, I'm Crestodian.

• Start me when setup, config, Gateway, model choice, or agent routing feels off.
• Using: microsoft-foundry/gpt-o4-mini for fuzzy local planning.
• Config: valid. Default agent: main.
• Gateway: reachable at ws://127.0.0.1:18789.

Everything basic is reachable. Use talk to agent when you want the normal agent.

gateway status

Gateway: not reachable
URL: ws://127.0.0.1:18789
Source: local loopback
Note: This operation was aborted

anyone know why this might be happening? my gateway evaporates basically immediately

[mighty rampart]

Find the log file that your gateway (server) is writing and see what it says happened right before it died

[earnest bluff]

Woohoo 2026.4.27 is out, let's see what it breaks today

[icy fjord]

where can i find that?

[wet wedge]

openclaw gateway status --deep
openclaw logs follow

[wheat jewel]

.26 broke my setup and had to roll back. Now i am updating to .27. I want to feel the pain

updated .22 to .27. Gateway wouldn't start

The systemd unit file is gone — the update removed it and didn't reinstall it, which is why the gateway can't start.

[ruby timber]

I've been trying to fix this error for hours, for some reason the logs refuse to connect to the active gateway because "it's not running". And it doesn't seem to want to connect to ollama to reach for the local model

[wet wedge]

might try openclaw onboard --mode local

[nimble hill]

unless you are looking for specific feature, do not upgrade. and wait for some stability in future. Lot of users carry that itch from android/ios that apps have to be updated

[smoky chasm]

openclaw update
Updating OpenClaw...

|
o  ✓ Updating via package manager (49.02s)

Update Result: ERROR
  Root: C:\Users\<user>\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\openclaw
  Reason: global install swap
  Before: 2026.4.26
  After: 2026.4.26

Total time: 59.87s

...huh?

[shut onyx]

Guys whats the best linux distro for openclaw on ur experience?
I need really good distro for openclaw and for agents

[misty vault]

Agreed with this, its still busted

[tardy halo]

Anyone on 4.27 yet? how is it going?
I don't think I'll get it yet since the fixes I'm waiting for didn't make it to this release

[tardy halo]

go to deepwiki.com, look for the openclaw repo there and give it that error

[tardy halo]

Ubuntu is pretty standard nowadays... 24.04 LTS is pretty stable, but you can always go Linux from Scratch 😁

[tardy halo]

did you try openclaw gateway restart?

[earnest bluff]

Working better for me now. Discord issue where /new causes a crash does not happen anymore.

[tardy halo]

that's good to know

[nimble hill]

If you guys use docker container, then you won't suffer this upgrade issues, since you will always have a contianer running on last known good version. You can spin up a new container with new version and check stability, if it works stop the old contianer, if it fails, keep working on old container, it is as simple as that

[shut onyx]

So the best choice is ubuntu? I really need this throw that working well with automation and with agents.

[dusk grotto]

Latest update and the one previous, anyone getting gateway timeout problems after agent spawns some tasks with sub agents?

[tardy halo]

It is for me, Ubuntu is well documented and has a big community

[wary flint]

Hey, all. I'm at the point where I'm either going to rebuild again (keeping curated exp memory) - or - "express faith" in the agent by upping the anti to honcho memory. Anyone FAFO w/ honcho as a communicative handshake fo a hail Mary? Elaborate?

[terse siren]

anyone know what the gateway closed error code 1000 is all about? happened to be on Linux Mint, WSL, Windows Powershell, and Windows Command Prompt

[still urchin]

Hi, from 4.27 for Debian the docker sandboxing has been moved to manual setup by executing sandbox-setup.sh.

Now the thing is to run that code my claw tells me that it needs the source repo on the machine. My question is if I have done npm install, do I still need to have the source repo for executing that script?

[wheat jewel]

Yes 🙂

[nimble hill]

You are planning to run openclaw as a docker container in linux env?

[kindred swallow]

hi guys, i am planning to clone my company operation using openclaw with a governing entity at top then an agent in intermediate diverting to a service providing company and one branch to our internal project. anyone has any idea

[wary berry]

so basically I let opus/gpt5.4 ran a task, and make it clone the process for open claw. then run testing to make sure it does the job properly. now it can do pretty good A3 reports on any of my problem solving events.

[kindred swallow]

i am making 2 branches of subagents, with almost 20 subagents in each branch for whole department, is it realistic approach and implementable.

?

@wary berry ?

[wary berry]

i don't think i am qualified to answer this question. all i did was testing within my own department. i believe the better models you have the more feasible your plan is. i hold this plan because api is too expensive when i just test and don't have any certainty.

I searched a lot, had same ambition like yours, that's how i got 1 ceo agent, and 5 sub agents at first.

[kindred swallow]

great, can you just brief how did you setup? and thank you

[wary berry]

i have two computers, windows, 1 docker sandbox 2 agents. mac, using discord hosting 6 agents. already gave up on the sandbox. too limited. more fun on discord. i told you i train the openclaw with gpt/claude by replicating same workflow to openclaw.

because i want subagents operates on local models.

so basically you have to do VSM on your business operations. very detailed way to map out all the breakdowns each claw should handle, draw clear lines on responsibilities. and sequences. don't let them be confused.

I am thinking this way because i work in manufacturing. process flow is key.

[kindred swallow]

Tysm

[stuck topaz]

well is there any trusted skill or plugin for cross session platform ?

like for eg

if whattsapp agent get a req from a user (not me) that send him message on discord ...then openclaw should send it.

something like this
i tried using bridge to main session but it didnt worked.

[idle venture]

Main channel for your clay: Telegram or Discord, and why?

[slate minnow]

Is anybody getting good results with qwen 3.6 locally hosted?

[slim herald]

Can anyone explain why cron jobs require the heartbeat to be enabled?

[slate minnow]

Just for everyday type tasks like scheduling, web stuff. Not coding.

[stuck topaz]

asking me?

[idle venture]

Any one

[stuck topaz]

i didnt understood your context

[civic locust]

good day chaps

quite stuck here

if anyone has any insight, much appreicated

currently anything i do i get from the chat:
⚠️ All models are temporarily rate-limited. Please try again in a few minutes.

this is after:

• switched to pro sub, before it was via api
• changed harness to codex

thing is, it worked for about 2 hours or so till suddenly got this

notes:

• still have quota
• running via coolify (coollabisio/openclaw)
• version: 2026.4.26

openclaw config get agents.defaults

:lobster: OpenClaw 2026.4.26 (be8c246)
   More integrations than your therapist's intake form.

{
  "agentRuntime": {
    "id": "codex",
    "fallback": "none"
  },
  "model": {
    "primary": "openai/gpt-5.5"
  },
  "models": {
    "openai/gpt-5.2": {
      "alias": "gpt52"
    },
    "openai/gpt-5.1-codex": {
      "alias": "codex51"
    },
    "openai/gpt-5.3-codex": {
      "alias": "codex53"
    },
    "zai/glm-5.1": {
      "alias": "glm"
    },
    "openai/gpt-5.4": {
      "alias": "gpt"
    },
    "openai-codex/gpt-5.5": {},
    "openai/gpt-5.5": {}
  },
  "workspace": "/data/workspace",
  "compaction": {
    "mode": "safeguard"
  },
  "embeddedPi": {
    "executionContract": "strict-agentic"
  },
  "thinkingDefault": "medium",
  "maxConcurrent": 4,
  "subagents": {
    "maxConcurrent": 8
  }
}

openclaw models status

:lobster: OpenClaw 2026.4.26 (be8c246)
   Your terminal just grew claws—type something and let the bot pinch the busywork.
Config : /data/.openclaw/openclaw.json
Agent dir : /data/.openclaw/agents/main/agent
Default : openai/gpt-5.5
Fallbacks (0) : -
Image model : -
Image fallbacks (0): -
Aliases (5) : gpt52 -> openai/gpt-5.2, codex51 -> openai/gpt-5.1-codex, codex53 -> openai/gpt-5.3-codex, glm -> zai/glm-5.1, gpt -> openai/gpt-5.4
Configured models (7): openai/gpt-5.2, openai/gpt-5.1-codex, openai/gpt-5.3-codex, zai/glm-5.1, openai/gpt-5.4, openai-codex/gpt-5.5, openai/gpt-5.5
Auth overview
Auth store : /data/.openclaw/agents/main/agent/auth-profiles.json
Shell env : off
Providers w/ OAuth/tokens (1): openai-codex (1)

openai effective=profiles:/data/.openclaw/agents/main/agent/auth-profiles.json | profiles=1 (oauth=0, token=0, api_key=1) | openai:default=ref(env:OPENAI_API_KEY) | env=REDACT| source=env: OPENAI_API_KEY
openai-codex effective=profiles:/data/.openclaw/agents/main/agent/auth-profiles.json | profiles=1 (oauth=1, token=0, api_key=0) | openai-codex:[e-mail]=OAuth ([e-mail])
zai effective=env:REDACT | env=REDACT | source=env: ZAI_API_KEY
OAuth/token status
openai-codex usage: 5h 100% left :stopwatch:4h 59m · Week 100% left :stopwatch:6d 23h
  - openai-codex:[e-mail] ([e-mail]) ok expires in 9d

[stuck topaz]

1. you leaked your email address.
2. setup fallback and image model
3. its a rate limited issue probabily you are on free tier and you reached your quota of usage ...

[civic locust]

Thank you for taking the time ☺️

1.fuuuu I thought I removed it all
2. Wanted it to use codex and know when it fails
3. Paid for $100 sub 🥲

[undone meteor]

anyone ever run into the issue that a model has <tool_call> inside <thinking> and that openclaw doesnt pick up on this?

I looked at the LLM output and the openclaw session logs. the LLM has a <tool_call> inside a <thinking> block and no </thinking> closing tag. I dont know if this is legal, but openclaw definitely should not hide this message and I dont think its the fault of the LLM, but the LLMs output wasnt parsed right

its still happening with the 350k context window, there is definitely a chat parsing bug going on, there is a <tool_call> inside <thinking>, no </thinking> closing tag. from what I read, the parser should assume a </thinking> closing tag when it sees a <tool_call>, but openclaw does not seem to do this. openclaw session log does contain this reasoning+toolcall message, but this message is never shown inside the webui and the tool is never called

[patent crown]

Anyone Experiencing this issue:
Bug: Session repair after Slack socket drop sends empty context to Anthropic, triggering permanent cooldown

When the Slack WebSocket drops mid-response, OpenClaw repairs the session file (rewrites the last assistant message). On the next inbound message, the LLM call fails with: messages: at least one message is required (HTTP 400 from Anthropic). This puts Anthropic into a cooldown state that persists until the gateway is restarted — subsequent messages silently fail.

Steps to reproduce:

1. Send a message that produces a long response
2. Drop the network or let Mac sleep during generation
3. Reconnect and send another message
4. Agent fails silently — no reply

Logs: session file repaired: rewrote 1 assistant message(s) followed immediately by LLM request rejected: messages: at least one message is required

Fix needed: After session repair, validate the context before sending to the LLM. If context is empty, surface an error or reset gracefully instead of entering cooldown.

Version: 2026.4.27 | Slack socket mode | Anthropic/claude-sonnet-4-6

[undone meteor]

also when I just hit F5 in the browser I get a vastly different output than what I see before, this sucks

[blazing horizon]

Hello everyone! I just reported this bug: https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/issues/75114
Is someone experiencing the same?

[pine elbow]

hiii switch to an active slack account - still keeps getting {"detail":{"code":"deactivated_workspace"}} , how do I get this to dissapear short of creating another bot ?

[cobalt thistle]

Hello, I’m trying to install OpenClaw on Windows 11, but during onboarding it gets stuck at the “Web Search” step and doesn’t continue. How can I fix this?

[mellow wagon]

Hello my good sir, i have openclaw that runs on gpt subs, but to save the gpt weekly token, i ask the agent to use gemini cli logged in using legit oauth from my account to do the coding task, thus saving my gpt token and using my gemini subscription simultaneously. Does that against the google tos or im safe?

[undone meteor]

at least I get the same bug eveytime and not a new bug everytime. it drives me nuts, it always completely shuts down the agents reasoning. you can see it just wnats to work but openclaw stops it in its tracks

[shut onyx]

Guys after transferring my openclaw from popOS cosmic to linux ubuntu , I noticed great performance and performance upgrade for openclaw

Has anybody Had this experience before??
This is surprising for me. I don’t know why ubuntu is much better for openclaw

[undone meteor]

apparently Im not alone:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Vllm/comments/1skks8n/qwen_35_27b35ba3b_tool_calling_issues_why_it/

[crisp wing]

r/Vllm via Reddit

[shut thicket]

Hello all, a newbie to the platform!
I'm hoping someone has hit this before and can point me in the right direction.
What happened:
I have OpenClaw running on a dedicated Windows machine using my Claude Pro subscription rather than API keys. Everything was working — gateway, agents, skills, the lot.
Earlier today during a routine setup task, my antivirus (Total AV) flagged some imminent threats and I shut everything down quickly to be safe. After a clean deep scan I rebooted, but now my agents can't respond. Have all the deets but need a guiding claw! Thanks!

[old sedge]

Hello, Laura. I'm new to OpenClaw as well. Have you tried feeding any era codes or details to like ChatGPT or Claude to see if it could help you diagnose?

Hello. I'm running OpenClaw on a VPS via docker+openrouter+discord+syncthing setup.

Took me a while to even get that far. And when I did, I came across content discussing that OpenClaw apparently has an issue remembering things across different sessions and over the course of time.

I've been researching different memory tools, including Mila Jovovich's "MemPalace", but I wanted to know what the community thinks the best memory implementation is.

[undone meteor]

for the record: https://github.com/vllm-project/vllm/pull/35687

[strong ferry]

maybe look into paperclip?

[stuck topaz]

18:01:41+00:00 error diagnostic {"subsystem":"diagnostic"} lane task error: lane=main durationMs=7008 error="Error: Failed to inspect sandbox image: permission denied while trying to connect to the docker API at unix:///var/run/docker.sock"
18:01:41+00:00 error diagnostic {"subsystem":"diagnostic"} lane task error: lane=session:agent:main:main durationMs=7009 error="Error: Failed to inspect sandbox image: permission denied while trying to connect to the docker API at unix:///var/run/docker.sock"

how to fix this stuff?

[stuck topaz]

fixed

[humble tide]

Anyone having issues with 4.27? 4.26 was very bad...4.27 is still problematic for me but better. I posted a bug on github https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/issues/75214 and am wondering if other people are having similar issues

[twilit canopy]

so i tried to install the thing on a win11 laptop and now I wanna reinstall to try a previous version in case in that one the installation will not fail. how do I do that?

[eager prairie]

latest update killed all my agents..none of thema re working

[twilit canopy]

Y:\Winblows\uthole>openclaw uninstall
Failed to read config at Y:\losers\loser.openclaw\openclaw.json SyntaxError: JSON5: invalid character '"' at 19:3
at syntaxError (Y:\losers\loser\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\openclaw\node_modules\json5\lib\parse.js:1110:17)
at invalidChar (Y:\losers\loser\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\openclaw\node_modules\json5\lib\parse.js:1055:12)
at Object.end (Y:\losers\loser\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\openclaw\node_modules\json5\lib\parse.js:704:15)
at Object.default (Y:\losers\loser\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\openclaw\node_modules\json5\lib\parse.js:168:37)
at lex (Y:\losers\loser\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\openclaw\node_modules\json5\lib\parse.js💯42)
at Object.parse (Y:\losers\loser\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\openclaw\node_modules\json5\lib\parse.js:25:17)
at Object.loadConfig (file:///Y:/losers/loser/AppData/Roaming/npm/node_modules/openclaw/dist/io-B4W7YRox.js:19576:24)
at readCliBannerTaglineMode (file:///Y:/losers/loser/AppData/Roaming/npm/node_modules/openclaw/dist/banner-BZBAV7gT.js:13:51)
at resolveTaglineMode (file:///Y:/losers/loser/AppData/Roaming/npm/node_modules/openclaw/dist/banner-BZBAV7gT.js:299:9)
at formatCliBannerLine (file:///Y:/losers/loser/AppData/Roaming/npm/node_modules/openclaw/dist/banner-BZBAV7gT.js:308:9) {
lineNumber: 19,
columnNumber: 3
}

🦞 OpenClaw 2026.4.27 (cbc2ba0) — I don't sleep, I just enter low-power mode and dream of clean diffs.

Config observe anomaly: Y:\losers\loser.openclaw\openclaw.json (missing-meta-vs-last-good)
Config invalid
File: ~.openclaw\openclaw.json
Problem:

• <root>: JSON5 parse failed: SyntaxError: JSON5: invalid character '"' at 19:3

Run: openclaw doctor --fix

Y:\Winblows\uthole>openclaw doctor --fix
Failed to read config at Y:\losers\loser.openclaw\openclaw.json SyntaxError: JSON5: invalid character '"' at 19:3
at syntaxError (Y:\losers\loser\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\openclaw\node_modules\json5\lib\parse.js:1110:17)
at invalidChar (Y:\losers\loser\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\openclaw\node_modules\json5\lib\parse.js:1055:12)
at Object.end (Y:\losers\loser\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\openclaw\node_modules\json5\lib\parse.js:704:15)
at Object.default (Y:\losers\loser\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\openclaw\node_modules\json5\lib\parse.js:168:37)
at lex (Y:\losers\loser\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\openclaw\node_modules\json5\lib\parse.js💯42)
at Object.parse (Y:\losers\loser\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\openclaw\node_modules\json5\lib\parse.js:25:17)
at Object.loadConfig (file:///Y:/losers/loser/AppData/Roaming/npm/node_modules/openclaw/dist/io-B4W7YRox.js:19576:24)
at file:///Y:/losers/loser/AppData/Roaming/npm/node_modules/openclaw/dist/io-B4W7YRox.js:20156:56
at loadPinnedRuntimeConfig (file:///Y:/losers/loser/AppData/Roaming/npm/node_modules/openclaw/dist/runtime-snapshot-B8RGj9C7.js:132:17)
at loadConfig (file:///Y:/losers/loser/AppData/Roaming/npm/node_modules/openclaw/dist/io-B4W7YRox.js:20156:9) {
lineNumber: 19,
columnNumber: 3
}
...

...
[openclaw] Failed to start CLI: SyntaxError: JSON5: invalid character '"' at 19:3
at syntaxError (Y:\losers\loser\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\openclaw\node_modules\json5\lib\parse.js:1110:17)
at invalidChar (Y:\losers\loser\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\openclaw\node_modules\json5\lib\parse.js:1055:12)
at Object.end (Y:\losers\loser\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\openclaw\node_modules\json5\lib\parse.js:704:15)
at Object.default (Y:\losers\loser\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\openclaw\node_modules\json5\lib\parse.js:168:37)
at lex (Y:\losers\loser\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\openclaw\node_modules\json5\lib\parse.js💯42)
at Object.parse (Y:\losers\loser\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\openclaw\node_modules\json5\lib\parse.js:25:17)
at Object.loadConfig (file:///Y:/losers/loser/AppData/Roaming/npm/node_modules/openclaw/dist/io-B4W7YRox.js:19576:24)
at file:///Y:/losers/loser/AppData/Roaming/npm/node_modules/openclaw/dist/io-B4W7YRox.js:20156:56
at loadPinnedRuntimeConfig (file:///Y:/losers/loser/AppData/Roaming/npm/node_modules/openclaw/dist/runtime-snapshot-B8RGj9C7.js:132:17)
at loadConfig (file:///Y:/losers/loser/AppData/Roaming/npm/node_modules/openclaw/dist/io-B4W7YRox.js:20156:9)

Y:\Winblows\uthole>

[eager prairie]

why did they truncate the identity files to 12k max

[twilit canopy]

some details may have been changed for privacy preferences sake

so, do i need to sanitize the whole pc or can i get away with some script or whatever?

i will ask gippity eventually but wanted to see how this community works...if it does

[inner frost]

hi, guys where do i change these 2 values "contextWindow": 8192,
"maxInputTokens": 6000 im unable to find them on the latest release

[rustic pier]

what was the last most stable OC version? my gateway keeps dropping randomly, might need to downgrade

[humble tide]

2026.4.23 I think

[vivid palm]

Hi my OC was running ok for months now when I talk to it via WhatsApp it replies once or twice then stops

[sterile steppe]

downgrade to .23

[sterile steppe]

did you upgrade?

[vivid palm]

Hi it all started going wrong before the upgrade

Will try that thanks

[terse siren]

How do i downgrade? Im having the same issues with my gateway too

Gateway close error code 1000

[sacred crest]

Why does openclaw keep breaking on every update? Was it always like this?

[rustic pier]

Dude what a shitshow. None of my communication channels are working.

[sacred crest]

it just can't be, every other update is like this

It can't be that they don't even TEST stuff

Has this been happening since the OpenAI acquisition?

[shut onyx]

I’m gonna ask this question again what is the best linux distro for openclaw

Need a lot of opinions

[sacred crest]

I'm using both Mint on one pc and Ubuntu LTS on another

[lunar pike]

Ubuntu for sure

[sly hull]

question for ya'll:
if i'm setting up a local LLM, can openclaw handle the routing between when to use the local qwen model and when to switch to a cloud model like claude? or should I use a router like litellm to handle that?

[cunning yew]

Hmm - installing Claw on an M2 mini and compared to 10 days ago, the onboard process feels hella slow. Like 20x slower. No evidence of load on the machine, network speeds nominal, installing copilot and claude was normal.

Nearly a minute from "understand this is personal" to "Setup mode"

[marsh bolt]

4.24 onward is basically a new app. Scroll up for tips on how to get over the hump. Then it’s be smooth going forward.

[acoustic sonnet]

I get this Error after the update: Anyone having the same issues?

Connectivity probe: failed
Probe target: **********
timeout
Capability: unknown

Port ****** is already in use.

• Port is in use but process details are unavailable (install lsof or run as an admin user)

[old sedge]

I thought it was just me and I just did something silly. But I also been experiencing weird issues after upgrading OpenClaw to 2026.4.23.

So far, though, I've gotten my discord bot back up and running. I barely got started using it, so not missing too much. But I have noticed a lot slower to respond and stuff.

[acoustic sonnet]

Something with the Ports are not working, i got it working for 1min i wrote my agent and it didnt reply for 10 mins got stuck. When i check openclaw --logs follow nothing there, Only problem with gateway/ports

i get this when i try to write to my agent : Agent failed before reply: This operation was aborted | This operation was aborted.
Logs: openclaw logs --follow

[old sedge]

Does your OpenClaw live within a VPS?

[acoustic sonnet]

Nope

[old sedge]

Oh. Is in on your local machine or on a separate dedicated machine? Just trying to understand your setup a bit.

And are you using anything like Docker?

[acoustic sonnet]

Yeah Local mashine, i heared VPS is not good tho

[old sedge]

I'm currently on a Hostinger VPS. It's... exhausting... to setup. But I didn't want to risk it on my computer yet.

Anyway, I think your issue has something to do with something already being usedby OpenClaw's gateway port. It's either a previous process that didn't shut down correctly, or something else. Not sure. I'm still new to this.

What you're going to want to do is find and kill whatever is currently holding the port. Assuming that is the issue.

[acoustic sonnet]

i killed the port restarted same issue i dont know

[old sedge]

Windows or Mac?

[acoustic sonnet]

Windows

[old sedge]

After you cleared the port, did you restart OpenClaw?

openclaw stop

then

openclaw start

???

You should first confirm that you did infact kill the port.

netstat -ano | findstr :18789

Then that should show a .PID. Then run: taskkill /PID [PID] /F

[acoustic sonnet]

will do again let me try

Since last update it also needs up to 5 min to load thats crazy. Back then it loaded in like 10 seconds. Anyways iam trying it rn

[old sedge]

Fingers crossed.

Hey, by any chance, have you figured out a solution to very long term and cross session persistent memory?

Apparently this is a major pain point for OpenClaw.

I've been reading about different recent solutions, but they seem like they've just come out and aren't well battle tested, idk

[acoustic sonnet]

Cross session? you mean You write via Telegram for exmaple and use WebUi?

[ruby timber]

the ai is lying to me im asking it to create folders and it's saying it did it but in reality it didn't is there any way to fix it

[old sedge]

Like if my OpenClaw Discord bot is chatting in a DM and in channel chats, it'll remember everything and I won't have to keep feeding it context from across our various server and DM convos.

[sharp compass]

Hi Reginald, I'm currently using an obsidian vault for this.

[acoustic sonnet]

Thats why you have memory.md Or build an Mission Control where it saves daily logs/docs so it updates itself

[old sedge]

Hello. This is my plan as well. However, I've been reading how eventually this becomes unsustainable in the longrun, because the larger your vault becomes, the more tokens it burns up with each reply whenever your bot is scanning it for context before it replies.

It seems that the issue becomes that the context window becomes bloated the bigger your vaults become, and it can mess you up.

Some have been looking into different types of memory solutions. Ones that seem more dynamic and intelligent rather than feeding entire contexts into each reply.

@acoustic sonnet did it work btw? Is your bot back up and running?

[acoustic sonnet]

Your totally right, i use /new often when i check usage and i see its big data

Iam restarting rn

killed the port

started again lets see

[old sedge]

Yeah. So, it seems the convo lately has been about implementing smarter methods for your bot to use it's memory. Instead of scanning every single MD file for each reply, it'll retreive key memories the way humans do.

I've been reading up about Mila Jovovich's Mempalace. It seems like a good idea but it's very new and I'm leery of vulnerabilities. So I'm sorta just waiting and watching.

[acoustic sonnet]

It needs to much time to restart. Somehting is off, as said back then it needed 20 seconds to load now waiting for minutes ..

[old sedge]

Maybe it's doing a lot of updates? I had that problem with mine today as well.

[acoustic sonnet]

I hate that everytime openclaw has a update it fucks up

[sharp compass]

Yeah, I have a theory to work around that, but having a reasonably large structured vault to play with is step one. The next step was to load that into postgres and build vectors over the notes.

[old sedge]

Hmm. So you sync your Obsidian vaults with postgres and you've connected openclaw to postgres?

@acoustic sonnet you STILL restarting, dawg?

[sharp compass]

that is the plan. Then the relevant memories can be found with an ANN lookup, much cheaper than going over over the entire vault.

[old sedge]

I watched this one video that said the latest OpenClaw update comes with LanceDB, a database specifically built for vector search with persistent storage. I haven't looked into this myself, but have you heard of it?

Supposedly it's the default database in the last update or something

[sharp compass]

No, I'll look it up. I tend to like postgres because it not vector specific. (As long as I have been alive, people have been inventing and promoting special-purpose DBs that all out-perform relational DBs at that one special thing)

[old sedge]

Ah. I see.

[sharp compass]

Whereas 'The vector found the thing we explicitly asked about, also these other things are directly related' seems like too much of an advantage to pass up.

[old sedge]

I may have to consider your setup and figure out if it's the way to go for me. Thanks for sharing.

[sharp compass]

cheers.

[wary flint]

Hey, folks. Seems Krill is down again(?).

"bootstrap-extra-files" ... does this just rake in every .md file from the agent's workspace?

[tardy halo]

Are these the expected timeouts Discord is giving or a new bug?
{"0":"{\"subsystem\":\"fetch-timeout\"}","1":{"timeoutMs":10000,"elapsedMs":18321,"operation":"fetchWithTimeout","url":"https://discord.com/api/v10/users/@me"},"2":"fetch timeout reached; aborting operation","_meta":{"runtime":"node","runtimeVersion":"22.22.2","hostname":"unknown","name":"{\"subsystem\":\"fetch-timeout\"}","parentNames":["openclaw"],"date":"2026-04-30T23:41:54.035Z","logLevelId":4,"logLevelName":"WARN","path":{"fullFilePath":"file:///home/openclaw/.openclaw/plugin-runtime-deps/openclaw-2026.4.29-b375d4277baa/dist/subsystem-DwIxKdWw.js:149:51","fileName":"subsystem-DwIxKdWw.js"

I'm having an issue switching models through discord with /models

[wary flint]

That appears to be the gateway response.

[sly yacht]

I am literally beating my head against the wall with this update.... started last night but at least I was able to get an output in between new sessions....

Bug: Session repair loop causes sticky "Something went wrong" on every message after session file corruption (v2026.4.27)

Version: 2026.4.27 (cbc2ba0)
OS: Ubuntu Server, Node v22.22.1
Channel: Telegram (direct)
Model: anthropic/claude-sonnet-4-6

Symptom:
After a session-file corruption event, every subsequent message returns:

⚠️ Something went wrong while processing your request. Please try again, or use /new to start a fresh session.

The error is sticky — /new is required to recover. The corrupted session remains broken indefinitely.

Root cause (from logs):
OpenClaw's 4.27 session-file repair drops blank user messages, but this leaves the conversation with an empty messages array. The Anthropic API rejects the request:

400 {"type":"error","error":{"type":"invalid_request_error","message":"messages: at least one message is required"}}

This throws a FailoverError which propagates as the "Something went wrong" message. Both primary and fallback providers fail the same way because the repair runs before provider selection.

Log sequence (repeating):

[agent/embedded] session file repaired: rewrote 1 assistant message(s), dropped 1 blank user message(s) (be05da21-...jsonl)
[agent/embedded] embedded run agent end ← error
[agent/embedded] auth profile failure state updated
[agent/embedded] embedded run failover decision ← tries fallback, same result
[diagnostic] lane task error: FailoverError: LLM request rejected: messages: at least one message is required

Timestamps (UTC):

• 2026-04-30T05:56:09 — first occurrence
• 2026-04-30T05:57:47 — retry, same failure
• 2026-04-30T23:04:35 — recurrence later in day (same session file, different message)

Expected behavior:
Repair should validate that the resulting messages array is non-empty before sending to API. If after repair no valid messages remain, the session should be reset entirely (not retried) and the user should be offered a fresh session automatically.

Workaround:
/new to start a fresh session. The old session file needs to be manually deleted or the session ID changed

[fallen socket]

I'm seeing the same thing, blocking discord from working for me

[fallen socket]

I had to downgrade to 2026.4.26

[frail verge]

new user here not able to get web search to work trying to use Tavily Search off claw hub anyone willing to show a screen shot of where i put this code in openclaw

{
"skills": {
"entries": {
"tavily-search": {
"enabled": true,
"apiKey": "tvly-YOUR_API_KEY_HERE"
}
}
}
}

[sly yacht]

Yup went to .23 1st but now on .26. .27 is just a mess right now

[fallen socket]

.27 and .29 are both a mess

[sly yacht]

I see that that's why I didn't even try with .29, .26 does seem slow right now at least .23 was quick 😆 but I should have rolled back sooner

[lavish reef]

anyone know what to do when this comes up native-slash-command-deploy-rest:patch:error — rate limited on startup, gateway never reaches READY

Openclaw not responding at all in disc

[glass hare]

Same here.

[pine sinew]

Is there a per-model limit in addition to the rolling window/daily/weekly? If so, where can I see it. Opus prompts immediately return the billing error, while Haiku and Sonnet (currently using Sonnet to troubleshoot) work just fine.

[minor wadi]

hey guys, anyone else with problems since .26 and .29 didnt fix it ?

May 01 03:07:52 alfred-v3 node[62369]: 2026-05-01T03:07:52.588+00:00 [diagnostic] liveness warning: reasons=event_loop_delay,event_loop_utilization,cpu interval=42s eventLoopDelayP99Ms=12683.6 eventLoopDelayMaxMs=12683.6 eventLoopUtilization=1 cpuCoreRatio=1.028 active=0 waiting=0 queued=0

[terse siren]

how do i downgrade

[fallen socket]

For me it was npm install -g openclaw@2026.4.26 --force but then I had to fix a bunch of broken dependencies manually

[versed condor]

hi, is it openclaw with anthropic oauth working for u guys on openclaw v2026.4.29 ?

[icy fjord]

Runtime: stopped (Startup-folder login item installed; no listener detected on port 18789.)
Connectivity probe: failed
Probe target: ws://127.0.0.1:18789
connect ECONNREFUSED 127.0.0.1:18789
Capability: unknown

Service is loaded but not running (likely exited immediately).

anyone else gettign this?

[terse siren]

now it's telling me not connected to gateway - message not sent

  Warning: daemon restart failed: exit status 1
Starting gateway...

✓ OpenClaw is running

  Open the Web UI:
    http://localhost:18789/#token=31d5a69157dabb5bea09172e8f4566f37b0dc8e618670d5a

Config was last written by a newer OpenClaw (2026.4.27); current version is 2026.4.26.

🦞 OpenClaw  2026.4.26 (be8c246) — I don't judge, but your missing API keys are absolutely judging you.

Config was last written by a newer OpenClaw (2026.4.27); current version is 2026.4.26.
Config was last written by a newer OpenClaw (2026.4.27); current version is 2026.4.26.
 openclaw tui - ws://127.0.0.1:18789 - agent main - session main
 connecting | idle

 not connected to gateway — message not sent
 gateway disconnected: closed | idle
 agent main | session main | unknown | tokens ?
────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────```

[olive cliff]

Anthropic pulled the plug on all 3rd party 0auth on 4/4

[plush geyser]

Friends, lobsters, mushroom. I have dug up a ThinkPad Yoga11e with an i3-7100,8GB RAM, Windows 10, & I don’t know what that means. The oracle Claude says I can get OpenClaw running connected to Google Gemini’s free tier. Any 1 step advice? Just do it comes to mind, but oh, the swearing I anticipate. This all-terrain lobster thinks DaVinci is advanced enough

[long axle]

This sounded like an interesting build. Its been a while since yuo posted but did you find someone to build this?

[terse siren]

how can i fix this?

 'C:\Users\Super\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\openclaw\dist\pi-embedded.runtime-sYVnqJ6F.js' imported from
 C:\Users\Super\AppData\Roaming\npm\node_modules\openclaw\dist\get-reply-CfL1pJQm.js
 connected | error```

[ebon leaf]

Anyone else experiencing a significant slow down in agent response times from v4.27 to v4.29? v4.27 was snappy/quick. v4.29 is so slow. Takes forever to respond. I have been using GPT-5.5 on both version via OAuth token.

Would like to know if anyone else is experiencing something similar or if this is limited to my setup.

[strong ferry]

litellm or bifrost

[ebon jetty]

You can use claude-cli as a provider to openclaw to use your oauth subscription

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47844269

[copper nova]

I wouldn't have high hopes

[silk kelp]

Failed to start: Payment failed: Error: ATXP payment failed: 403 {"error":"DESTINATION_NOT_ALLOWED","message":"IOU conversion is not allowed for this destination","details":{"destination":"0x7F9D1a879750168b8f4A59734B1262D1778fDB5A"}}

[ebon leaf]

@ebon jetty are you actively using this setup successfully?

[ebon jetty]

Yeah mate. Only issue is that it has dementia.

You can have a back and forth but then suddenly like 10 lines in it has zero knowledge of the conversation or context

Unsure if it’s a current openclaw memory issue or if it’s because it’s switching between the openclaw memory files and the Claude.md files

So I’ve been one-shotting my openclaw use with it and then using Claude code for my main coding tasks. I wanted to get back to actually troubleshooting this but I’ve grown attached to the Claude code harness so I hadn’t yet

[jaunty stag]

he called u a blob

@vale orbit anything in your files about the codex-cli auth setup? you mentioned the api key placeholder...

[vale orbit]

hi sers

[ebon leaf]

Bueller?

[jaunty stag]

yeah if by "significant" you mean "completely unusable.. basically frozen". I gave up and am trying to roll back to 4.25

[icy fjord]

Runtime: stopped (Startup-folder login item installed; no listener detected on port 18789.)
Connectivity probe: failed
Probe target: ws://127.0.0.1:18789
connect ECONNREFUSED 127.0.0.1:18789
Capability: unknown

Service is loaded but not running (likely exited immediately).

does anyone know how to fix this?

[solid swallow]

Hey, can someone help with failed to load bundled channel discord: Cannot find module 'discord-api-types/v10'

[stuck topaz]

try running openclaw doctor

then openclaw doctor --fix

[ebon leaf]

Yeah basically. My setup was working well yesterday on v4.27 before I decided to nuke everything by upgrading. You think I would have learned by now.

[jaunty stag]

even rolling back was a struggle. dependencies running slightly slower was timing out Discord. had to increase the timeout limit from 15 to 60s to get it to start properly.

4.25 ftw.

[toxic quail]

My agent reported that on 4.29 there are some serious regressions in agent turn performance.

• startup → attempt-dispatch: 25.6s
  • model-resolution: 13.4s
  • auth: 7.3s
  • attempt-dispatch: 4.9s
• prep → stream-ready: 31.3s
  • core-plugin-tools: 11.4s
  • system-prompt: 7.0s
  • stream-setup: 8.4s

We've been fixing them one after the other, model-resolution and auth have been brought back to ~50 ms instead, now we're looking into attempt-dispatch itself to see if we can get the first block down.

After that, we go look into the rest. 🙂

Ok attempt-dispatch is now 85ms, so the whole startup->attempt-dispatch route has dropped to roughly a second 😄

[nimble hill]

Yeah 4.29 is heavy and broken. Simple approvals are not going through without manually changing openclaw.json. I would stick to 4.23 which is working fine

[coral dove]

do you guys install openclaw system wide?

[frank vapor]

I have been spending a few days trying to stabilize my openclaw after updating to first .26 then .29.

Is there any consensus on a release that is stable and fast?

[solid swallow]

I downgraded to.27 Discord seems not to work properly. My agents receive messages answer them but it seems they are not sending the message back to Discord. Does anybody can help with that? And yes I did Openclaw doctor--fix

[frank vapor]

Group/channel replies are private by default since 2026.4.27.

According to my GPT this is the fix -> openclaw config set messages.groupChat.visibleReplies automatic

[solid swallow]

Thanks mate. I will try it out when I'm back home

[shut onyx]

Whats the best oprating system for running openclaw? Windows,mac,linux?

[fading tide]

mac and linux

[digital umbra]

I want to use Vibe Coden with OpenClaw; OpenClaw is the manager, and Codex is the developer. I’ve already installed the Codex CLI on my Windows computer and manually copied my auth.json file to the VPS under root/codex_data. But now I’m not sure what to do next to give OpenClaw access to the CLI.

[fallen socket]

Discord does not work on .29. I am on .26 because of another bug in .27, which ironically is resolved in .29. https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/issues/75341

[latent robin]

I have two agents one on a mac mini and one on a VPS. They are slighly different but after updating to 4.29 both, the VPS start to take 100% cpu all the time. I investigated a bit, and I tried to power off Slack, Acpx, and Websearch; the only things that were different between them. However, node is over 100% and all the calls failed. By rolling back to 4.27, everything is fine, but I would like to understand the problem.
I also saw I'm not the only one with this issue.

[dusty ivy]

Hi All, built an OC instance per ZSeurity YT and working fine until I triend to also communicate it my VPS agent via Matrix. When I send messages via Element the TUI instance cannot see them. It appears that my OC config does not allow mulitple channels into one Agent. Is this something I have misconfigured or is it OC architecture?

[finite condor]

Hello everyone, is there a way to cleanly deactivate all plugins? They are taking a lot of time to load unecessarily

[tribal lake]

Anyone else running into issues with Slack and other things being broken in the latest release .29?

After lots of troubleshooting with Claude's help, I am going to downgrade openclaw to 2026.4.27

[pallid cove]

fuuuuuuu

[frank vapor]

If you use openclaw config set plugins.allowlist [pluginA, pluginB..] you create an allowlist with the plugins you add.

From my experience it is a bit buggy though because it seems to sometimes block built-in plugins and other times not.

I have also been trying to figure out a way to disable certain built-in plugin (I am looking at you gmail-watcher) but I have not found a solution yet.

I hope this can help a little-bit.

[vivid palm]

Hi is it possible to use one open ai model for WhatsApp and different ones for discord and telegram, I have been burning through open ai credits and I want to minimize costs. Basically when I need to do something complex behind the scene I will pay for a premium model but day to day when users ask the bot questions I want to use a cheap model what is the best set up thanks

[slow arrow]

What is up with the response delay after a recent upgrade? it used to get back to me nearly instantly. Now it takes like over a minute to respond to even basic questions on telegram. do I need to upgrade to a larger EC2 instance?

[elder aspen]

It may help, but it won't fix it. I have a 16-core, 128GB desktop and the newer versions are painfully slow even on that. Something got fundamentally hosed recently. What helped a little: explicitly disabling every damned plugin I don't use and disabling active-memory. Better, but still way slower than v2026.4.20. If you are relying on IMDS for auth to bedrock, it is quite broken. Create a bedrock bearer token and have openclaw use that instead.

[sleek kayak]

https://imgur.com/a/xtUrgdZ
what could be the problem

[ruby timber]

what's the most stable version of openclaw rn because in the most recent one my gateway becomes stale for a few minutes and my cpu isn't being used at all

[random pumice]

Why isn't WhatApp via the Business API a documented channel? Is it not recommended for some reason?

[finite condor]

Yeah, pain in the butt - had claude code write plugin disable for all… but ended up downgrading to 4.20, and everything works again

[meager vessel]

I am still in 4.23... I am not going to update for a while

[mighty rampart]

This (using WhatsApp Business) came up previously, search this channel or #users-helping-users message

[random pumice]

Thank you. I know there are skills/plugins to support it but I'm mostly wondering if there's good reason OpenClaw has shipped and documented only support for the personal number method.

[ebon leaf]

Same issue. Appears this is a regression in 4.29.

[glacial frigate]

Anyone figured out how to instruct the realtime voice agent to actually coplete a task without having it spill it's enture task in the first message? Right now, it seems like the only way to pass instruction is in the 'message' field, and it's hard coded that the agent should include it in it's greeting... Or am i missing something?

[white grove]

I've noticed the gateway has been super unstable. I've been getting many handshake-timeouts in the logs and CPU saturation when essentially not even doing anything. Right now trying to run openclaw configure and it just stalls after "Existing config detected"

[terse pond]

Yo would be willing to hop in a call/message and help me? Ive set openclaw up ive set ollama but, both work on their own but i cant seem to get openclaw to connect to ollama whenever i try to message it

[frank agate]

May 01 17:51:32 openclaw1 node[13022]: 2026-05-01T17:51:32.512+00:00 [discord] native slash command deploy warning (not message send): You are being rate limited. (status=429, body={"message":"You are being rate limited.","retry_after":3.446,"global":false})

Discord been F'd for me 🙁

[astral garnet]

i am doing a fresh install of 4.29 on linux debian, frozen at channel select screen, cannot get daemon installed

[wary flint]

I've having severe difficulty getting the sandbox setup to work. Docker is installed. I see sandboxes in the workspace. My config:

"sandbox": {
"mode": "all",
"scope": "session",
"workspaceAccess": "none",
"docker": {
"binds": [
"/Users/xxx/.openclaw:/openclaw:ro",
"/Users/xxx/.openclaw/workspace/forge:/openclaw/workspace/forge:rw"
]
},
"backend": "docker"
},

"off" allows communication, of course but "all" arrives at:

⚠️ Agent failed before reply: Sandbox image not found: openclaw-sandbox:bookworm-slim. Build it with scripts/sandbox-setup.sh before enabling Docker sandboxing. The default image includes python3 for sandbox write/edit helpers; OpenClaw will not substitute plain debian:bookworm-slim.
Logs: openclaw logs --follow

Next thing I do is build the target through the CLI but the end result is the same: a repeat loop of failure.

Any clues? I'm perusing the docs now.

[frank agate]

lol how is basic discord functionality broken

wonder if ```18:15:32 [channels] failed to load bundled channel discord: Cannot find module 'discord-api-types/v10'
Require stack:

• /home/openclaw/.nvm/versions/node/v25.9.0/lib/node_modules/openclaw/dist/extensions/discord/discord-dGuI-41N.js```

Note: this was a missing dependency in the openclaw package — it uses discord-api-types/v10 in the bundled Discord extension but didn't include it as a declared dependency, so it wasn't installed automatically. If openclaw updates in the future and wipes node_modules, you may need to reinstall it.

[wary flint]

@frank agate Yeah, I only allowed myself to update because I was planning a full reset anyhow.

[wary flint]

So, I should probably go ahead and assume that "sandbox": {"mode": "all"} ... doesn't work? Seems there's no help for anyone to be had anywhere anymore.

[scarlet silo]

hi people, since 2026.4.29 that discord and whatsapp stopped working and telegram slow as hell. any ideas?

[misty vault]

Roll back to 2026.04.23

[scarlet silo]

damn

so many versions?

[undone meteor]

hi, i did a reinstall of openclaw, did the gateway toker config then it asked if i want to go to webui, i said yes, it took me to dashboard but just said disconnected. this step was before the model choice, plugins, telegram (did not activate yet) etc. so i did openvlaw onboard in terminal and it took me to where i left off. completed onboard opened webui fine loaded correct model but agent didnt do the bootstrap process and doesnt read any of the .md correctly (basically just spits out rubbish like its not reading just guessing) am i.missing something? why is it not starting bootstrap or reading any .md files. doesnt know itself or me. any suggestions would be appreciated

[sonic karma]

Trying to get the new function “commitments” to work. Keeps giving errors “open ai api not found”. Where do i change the model to ollama? Both my agent and I can’t find where.

[undone meteor]

@sonic karma i maybe not following exactly but when i needed my agent to recognise my model on ollama, i did openclaw config or openclaw onboard, chose ollama and model, futher down the onboard it asks you if you want to add opnai api key etc. this might not be what you're talking about but if it is thats how i did it, otherwise you have to start messing with config file values

[sturdy tundra]

Did openclaw get more CPU intensive lately? I havent been able to use it in a week and now, after updating, it refuses to respond. and openclaw TUI is really laggy and pins the CPU at 100%.

[frank vapor]

Openclaw has been pretty bad since approx .23

[scarlet silo]

isnt 26 ok?

[frank agate]

turns out it was the messages.groupChat.visibleReplies="automatic" change

[scarlet silo]

what did you change?

[frank agate]

it wasn't set to auto so the bot would ... just not reply at all lol

    1   │ │ "groupChat": {
  307   │ │ │ "visibleReplies": "automatic"
    1   │ │ }
    2   │ }

sorry for formatting

[scarlet silo]

have to check mine

[frank agate]

you'd think upgrading would keep the same behavior but maybe my bad for missing a note

[random raven]

I'd like to set up a secure instance from which I can remove restrictions over time as needed. My dev machine runs OSX. One approach would be to run within a Docker container with a suitable configuration. An other approach would be to use an instance that is hosted byt someone else. Is one of these better than the other, and is there a useful guide for setting this up?

[mighty rampart]

I would run it in a container on a server (not your dev machine). I do this in Podman on Rocky Linux.

[scarlet silo]

didnt do it for me

[random raven]

sounds reasonable . is there a how-to for setting up openclaw in a container?

[earnest flame]

I am trying to reinstall openclaw. after just deleting the .openclaw folder on windows at some point. (for disk space)

This should never be on my screen

◇ Existing config detected ───────╮
│ │
│ workspace: C:\Windows\System32 │
│ │
├──────────────────────────────────╯

Now what?

[strange sluice]

why is latest openclaw not working. No response , just constant sign that openclaw is typing in the dashboard chat

V2026.4.29

[scarlet silo]

i did. back to 23 and whatsapp, discord and telegram are working again...

[mighty rampart]

The project docs have https://docs.openclaw.ai/install/docker

[mighty rampart]

If you go the route of managing your own containers, the book “Talk Python in Production” is useful. It’s the details of how he manages multiple apps with Docker containers. Because along with OpenClaw you might also want Grafana and its backends for logs and metrics, or Ollama for local inference, the list goes on, you’ll keep adding containers.

[misty vault]

Glad to hear it. I'm hoping may is better for upgrades

[scarlet silo]

i dont understand the difference in performance... 23 is really fast but 29 is terrible

[wary flint]

@scarlet silo your timing is good. I've seen a lot of the very same comment and experienced it even after a hard (full) reset of my entire installation.

This may be one of those scenarios where the dashboard (% openclaw dashboard) is of some very real service.

I'm used to clumsily hacking through the CLI or directly editing openclaw.json but, now that I've read/skimmed the docs a bit heavily, gotta say, they're trying to make the dashboard more worthwhile. 2 cents.

I hit the "config" section and applied the VA context settings. Haven't tested. Will report.

[scarlet silo]

thx

[wary flint]

I also saw that ALL skills were enabled by default. Every one of 'em. Maybe that's a thing.

I haven't restarted the gateway and won't until I finish tweakin' it's twerkin' but ... more eventually.

[scarlet silo]

strange. i thing i have something like 20 skills enabled. why would I need 70

think*

[wary flint]

So notes can check the calendar to remind notes that there are calendar updates to make note of.

Even still, here's my scenario:

Me: "Hello. You're newly installed. How are you feeling?"

1.5 minutes later ...

Agent: "Good evening, Sir. Steady, sharp, and suspicious of unfinished work pretending otherwise. Systems feel calm from here; I’m ready to move when you are."

ONE-POINT-FIVE minutes.

[mighty rampart]

With what model? (Running locally if my ollama does not have the model loaded that takes a while.) can you find the server logs and see what it’s doing? Ask your agent to check them. (I run Claude Code outside of OC as my devops assistant.)

[wary flint]

Apologies ... Codex via OAuth. Which was on fire for .23

[mighty rampart]

I have not looked at this weeks release notes yet but it feels like they’re in the middle of some refactoring. Will know more after Claude digs around and decides what version to upgrade to.

[wary flint]

Report inbound. Waiting for the agent to redact.

Direct from my agent (two parts due to length) ...

OpenClaw response-time investigation, privacy-redacted:

I inspected local OpenClaw logs and found that the slow response time appears to be mostly runtime preparation before the model begins producing a useful response, not just Discord latency or model generation.

Environment:

• OpenClaw version: 2026.4.29
• Host OS: macOS
• Node: v24.x
• Model: gpt-5.5
• Channel: Discord direct message
• User/account identifiers redacted

Observed timing from gateway logs:

Embedded run startup:

• Average total: ~29.4s
• model-resolution: ~13.4s
• auth: ~6.9s
• attempt-dispatch: ~5.3s

Run prep to stream-ready:

• Average total: ~42.2s
• core-plugin-tools: ~22.7s
• system-prompt assembly: ~6.9s
• stream-setup: ~8.4s

Representative trace pattern:

[agent/embedded] [trace:embedded-run] startup stages:
totalMs≈25,000–41,000
stages include:
model-resolution≈13,000ms
auth≈6,800ms
attempt-dispatch≈5,000ms

[agent/embedded] [trace:embedded-run] prep stages:
totalMs≈41,000–42,000
stages include:
core-plugin-tools≈22,000ms
bundle-tools≈1,800–2,000ms
system-prompt≈6,600–7,300ms
session-resource-loader≈1,800–2,000ms
stream-setup≈8,100–8,400ms

Interpretation:
A normal turn appears to be spending roughly 65–70 seconds before useful streaming is ready. The largest apparent bottleneck is per-turn OpenClaw embedded runtime/tool prep, especially core-plugin-tools, followed by model/auth setup and stream setup.

Additional log issues observed:

• Repeated diagnostic liveness warnings for event_loop_delay and CPU
• Event loop max delays observed over 20s in some warnings
• Repeated fetch timeouts
• Discord slash-command deploy 429 rate-limit warnings
• One Discord gateway heartbeat ACK timeout
• A few interaction/reply aborts

Current session context was not unusually large relative to the context window, and cache hit rate appeared healthy, so context size alone does not look like the main cause.

Question/request:
Is this expected behavior in recent OpenClaw builds? Specifically, should core-plugin-tools be taking ~22s per turn, and should model-resolution/auth/stream-setup be recurring at these timings? OC .23 reportedly felt much snappier on the same general setup.

[mighty rampart]

It appears you are not alone. https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/issues/75290

[pine elbow]

hi friends - is it just me ... my claw is super slow in reponding ... is it a model issue or ? gpt 5.5

[mighty rampart]

What version? See above.

[inner marsh]

If this helps anyone, I had to revert to OpenClaw 2026.4.23 to stabilize my agents. It was a rough week of debugging, and I'm now convinced that the versions released after 2026.4.23 are unstable. I'm hoping Peter and the team right the ship quickly.

[wary flint]

Mine won't let me revert now. Anybody know of a --force approach?

[shrewd pollen]

Anyone tried hermes?

[wary flint]

This worked: npm install -g openclaw@2026.4.23

[worn smelt]

I can't seem to get my open claw to write to the workspace directory. it claim to complete a write tsk but nothing is there afterwards

[wary flint]

Two things:

1 - Which model? (Gemini lied to me all the time)
2 - Have you configured your tool/access settings?

[worn smelt]

ollama:gemma4
I've been working for days to fix this and all tool access appear to be correct

[worn smelt]

I'm on a mac mini and I think it has something to do with the openclaw directory being hidden even though I have the terminal set to full access

[wary flint]

Same ... it's not that. I get the feeling you know plenty to say you've opened the openclaw.json file yes? And ... Docker or sandboxed?

[worn smelt]

Sandbox, I've opened the json file but not sure what I'm looking for

[worn smelt]

the Tool profile is set to full

[wary flint]

Which means, I believe, it can write/edit no further than the sandbox itself.

See if it can write a .txt file and tell you its location after it saves it.

If that works, see if it can do the same but ATTACH it.

[worn smelt]

It is returning a no such file or directory error when I try to save to the workspace/default directory

[wary flint]

By default, workspace/ IS the default.

(no child dir)

Unless you're like me and want all agents in their own folder within that. 😉

[worn smelt]

It backed out of the .txt attempt since it could not wwrite to the workspace directory

[worn smelt]

I'm going to have to seek more help later - I have to get up for work around 5AM so I need to go to bed

[worn smelt]

Thank you!

[fluid marlin]

"Trying to pair my laptop as a node — having trouble with the QR scan"

[pallid yacht]

Ugh, updated to 2026.4.29 and cannot get this thing working

[ember elm]

Glad to see I'm not the only one struggling with 2026.4.29, also going back to .23 that worked fine

[ionic agate]

Hello, I'm just starting to use openclaw on windows, does anyone mind helping me figure things out?

[wary flint]

Funny thing, practicing with .29 makes .23 feel like greased lightning.

[paper elk]

Where can we brainstorm and collaborate on Orchestration strategies here so we can continue to improve our orchestration protocols?

[icy fjord]

o Gateway --------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| |
| Runtime: running (pid 17788, Startup-folder login item installed; listener detected on |
| port 18789.) |
| |
+------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Restarted Windows login item: OpenClaw Gateway
|
o
|
o Gateway --------------+
| |
| Gateway not running. |
| |
+------------------------+

what is ts bro

gateway runtime running
gateway not running

😂

[empty wraith]

Lost so much time on these broken releases.

[waxen prawn]

Hey, new here. Running OpenClaw 2026.4.29 on Windows 10 via Git Bash. Gateway is running locally on port 18789 but showing unreachable timeout externally. Response times are very slow — 4000-7600ms. Currently using gpt-oss-120b via Cerebras. Any tips on improving speed?

[waxen prawn]

07:23:59 [ws] ⇄ res ✓ sessions.subscribe 1112ms conn=7e0cdc38…48aa id=cc7366a0…8e53
07:24:01 [ws] ⇄ res ✓ chat.history 2028ms conn=7e0cdc38…48aa id=c3356abc…3c8a
07:24:03 [ws] ⇄ res ✓ commands.list 4409ms conn=7e0cdc38…48aa id=dce6bc39…83a2
07:24:07 [ws] ⇄ res ✓ sessions.list 8021ms conn=7e0cdc38…48aa id=95bdd6dc…a721
07:24:07 [ws] ⇄ res ✓ node.list 8070ms conn=7e0cdc38…48aa id=0c3986aa…999d
07:24:07 [ws] ⇄ res ✓ device.pair.list 8083ms conn=7e0cdc38…48aa id=bde8bd55…fbf4
07:26:44 [diagnostic] liveness warning: reasons=event_loop_delay,event_loop_utilization,cpu interval=179s eventLoopDelayP99Ms=3988.8 eventLoopDelayMaxMs=157303.2 eventLoopUtilization=0.968 cpuCoreRatio=0.916 active=0 waiting=0 queued=0
07:26:51 [ws] closed before connect conn=1355bfd0-2189-4f69-ba31-a6dc1e047ea8 peer=127.0.0.1:49157->127.0.0.1:18789 remote=127.0.0.1 fwd=n/a origin=n/a host=127.0.0.1:18789 ua=n/a code=1006 reason=n/a
07:26:51 [ws] closed before connect conn=eedf0b12-bcf5-4491-995e-1376bcbdb466 peer=127.0.0.1:49154->127.0.0.1:18789 remote=127.0.0.1 fwd=n/a origin=n/a host=127.0.0.1:18789 ua=n/a code=1006 reason=n/a
07:27:04 [ws] ⇄ res ✓ node.list 12500ms conn=7e0cdc38…48aa id=38916240…f844
07:36:22 [ws] ⇄ res ✓ models.list 742918ms conn=7e0cdc38…48aa id=e3b6f5e7…deac
07:36:22 [diagnostic] liveness warning: reasons=event_loop_delay,event_loop_utilization,cpu interval=578s eventLoopDelayP99Ms=558345.7 eventLoopDelayMaxMs=558345.7 eventLoopUtilization=1 cpuCoreRatio=0.982 active=0 waiting=0 queued=0
07:36:27 [ws] closed before connect conn=6ba561a3-ea3d-43ab-b3f6-cef3fd1cc1ea peer=127.0.0.1:49246->127.0.0.1:18789 remote=127.0.0.1 fwd=n/a origin=n/a host=127.0.0.1:18789 ua=n/a code=1006 reason=n/a
07:39:25 [diagnostic] liveness warning: reasons=event_loop_delay interval=30s eventLoopDelayP99Ms=34.8 eventLoopDelayMaxMs=3479.2 eventLoopUtilization=0.118 cpuCoreRatio=0.116 active=0 waiting=0 queued=0

[umbral crane]

I'm currently using the docker image for 2026.04.26 and noticed that the ssh command is no longer available inside the container (agent complained it couldn't find the binary). This worked with earlier images. Is this a known limitation/change with the docker build? If so, what's the easiest workaround so the agent can use ssh again?

[scarlet silo]

good mourning, in version 23 i am getting:
Playwright is not available in this gateway build; 'act:click' is unsupported.

but I already installed chromium and playwright core was already installed...

[livid hamlet]

krill died

F

Got basically same issue when running through discord

[scarlet silo]

fixed it. the node didnt know the path to the module

[oblique delta]

One of the recent updates has made OpenClaw super slow and unresponsive.. done 2 fresh installs. Tried multiple models. Can’t work what’s gone wrong. Any ideas ?

[formal fog]

same here. system is slow, restarted gateway. running local models, I used to get 49 tps out of gemma4 26b, now max is 43, but most of the time 35, and some of my tests are as low as 10. not sure what is happening

[oblique delta]

https://discord.com/channels/1456350064065904867/1499629737851490474

Lots of people have same issue. Saying to downgrade to 4.23

[granite ocean]

4.23? Seriously wtf is happening? Is there any other working agent atm to switch to? This is ridiculous

no wsl2 pls

I see this was fixed in main by peter, does anyone know how to always use the latest version from github main?

[formal fog]

can you download and build from source? any idea what the fix was?

[granite ocean]

https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/issues/75341

[formal fog]

so it sounds like either revert or just wait for a new release...

[scarlet silo]

yes, downgrade is the option atm.

[civic locust]

smol update

still having this same problem

the same account (signed in the same way) shows quota exceeded on one openclaw but works on another hmm

[civic locust]

wow seems like its still using api key instead of oauth

anyone know how to change that?

[kindred swallow]

api or oauth which is the best?

[civic locust]

i had been using api since gpt-3 launch but finally now i switch to sub lol

its a lot better using codex economically speaking

[high heron]

oauth

[winter grail]

I think oAuth nets you more bang for your buck vs raw token/API costs -- I'm using oAuth for claude (although routing through agentSDK/streaming json) and codex. If you max your weekly session usage on claude (easy on my end since I utilize swarms) I think you're getting ~500$ worth of tokens a week, for a 200$ monthly sub. Haven't parsed codex enough to know if it is similar value, but that will happen soon enough since codex 5.5 seems to be outperforming opus 4.7 for my use cases.

[hearty rock]

hey guys, I'm running 2026.4.29 (a448042) on windows 11 and, it seems like openclaw is binding itself to a single CPU?

[silver imp]

So is there a good guide anywhere on how to get openclaw working with claude on the Oauth side? I've heard something about getting it to use the CLI instead of API, but can't find much about how to set that up.

[mellow sundial]

Any idea why my Discord responses look like this? It happens with all agents on Discord

[fallen pecan]

Hi @raven nymph
How are you?

[raven nymph]

heyo

[fallen pecan]

I have something to discuss with you

[raven nymph]

ok

[fallen pecan]

I am Ivan from singapore.

I have a software developing agency and seeking for someone who can help us.

I have a trouble problem.

[fallen pecan]

@raven nymph

[hollow snow]

I'm completely down and can't access the gateway. What's going on?

[silver imp]

Is there some trick to enable notion write in openclaw? It keeps telling me I need to enable it in my gateway ?

[elfin lotus]

hello guys, i've setup openclaw on docker on my private server. I connect to it with no issues.

The problem are the skills that need setup like gog. How can I setup them

[rose halo]

Need to install dependencies in the dockerfile that builds the docker image and build it.

So this image will run a container with the dependencies that skill needs

Setting up openclaw in docker is annoying imo

[elfin lotus]

Oh I get it thanks

[raven nymph]

hey

[fallen pecan]

I'm here

[fallen pecan]

Are you available?

[raven nymph]

friend request sent

[rich mortar]

Does anyone have their agent tracking their calendar and organizing the things that need done throughout the week. Maybe some dependency management and using time wisely to make sure the week goes smoothly? If so: What modifications have you made so that it works better?

[marsh bolt]

The easy way to do it is to have an agent do everything. Opus 4.6 handled this very well, but haven't tried with GPT 5.5

Guys I'm 2 for 2 running the upgrade from the curl script rather than openclaw update. Even with 4.23 -> 4.24 which was the one with all the plugin dependency issues. curl -fsSL https://openclaw.ai/install.sh | bash Saw on X too - Peter said that the 'hackable' install avoids the dependency issue too. I assume that means installing directly from git.

curl -fsSL https://openclaw.ai/install.sh | bash

4.29 moves the gateway to launchd (from openclaw child process) which is nice. Gateway seems faster so far and command above was flawless going from 4.26 (but I chose 'no' when it asked to update config to defaults)

[marsh bolt]

Ask a smart agent to rebuild the image with this capability. I know it worked well with Opus 4.6. Haven't tried with GPT 5.5

[marsh bolt]

try this curl -fsSL https://openclaw.ai/install.sh | bash

For me it was a 4 hr process of debugging using agents and claude code to get from 4.23 -> 4.24 starting from the curl install. After that, it's smooth sailing but curl install seems to work better than openclaw update curl -fsSL https://openclaw.ai/install.sh | bash

[prisma bronze]

Hi Im Sydd, just got into OpenClaw literately now where should I start? whats the minimum ammount of things I gotta read before I start bugging u? I worry my OpenClaw agent will send nude pictures to my boss or some sht so I appreciate any tips! nice meeting u crazy ass tech people btw

[silver imp]

Anyone have any info here?

[hoary spear]

since when? Did it work previously?

[mellow sundial]

Yes it did

[umbral crane]

Thanks, I know how to fix it but my question was more about whether or not this was a deliberate change in 2026.04.26 or earlier which I had missed? I looked at the release notes but didn't find anything mentioned about this explicitely.

[mellow sundial]

Are you try environmental pipes to make it less loud?

Can’t be worse than the Indian job though lol

[normal whale]

Hello, anyone having issues with telegram connections for their agents?

[hybrid peak]

After a month, I give up; OpenClaw isn't for me. Any recommendations for furthers experimentation with AI?

[prisma bronze]

Hi

[hoary spear]

was there something in particular with openclaw that drew you to it, or is it a general interest in all things ai that you want to do?

[silver imp]

Better than me. I’m 36 hours in and can’t get openclaw to do anything more than tell me it can’t do that.

[rapid furnace]

Hey everyone,

Been running OpenClaw for a while now with a ChatGPT Plus subscription (openai-codex/gpt-5.5) and I keep hitting a wall with the OAuth token refresh. Every time my gateway restarts whether that's a WSL shutdown, a system reboot, or even just the health monitor doing its thing the token gets burned and I get:

"Your refresh token has already been used to generate a new access token. Please try signing in again."

I've tried basically everything: deleting ~/.codex/, re-auth with device pairing while the gateway is stopped, re-auth while it's running, the whole thing. It works for a bit but the next restart kills it again.

Running v2026.4.29 on WSL2. Is anyone else running a persistent always-on setup with the ChatGPT subscription successfully? And if so, how are you handling the token lifecycle across restarts?

Appreciate any help

[marsh bolt]

Not sure, but your agent can tell you that too 🙂

[scarlet silo]

do you have an open-ai API key in the configs, besides the Oauth?

[young nebula]

so my model is SUPER slow now after updating openclaw to 4.29. any ideas to help fix it

[scarlet silo]

had to downgrade to 23.

[young nebula]

whats the best way to do that "automatically"?

[lime pawn]

I've been running Openclaw locally and connected to Ollama.
Tried a few models and everything "works" however I'm still in the testing phase because on some requests that are a bit longer it just hangs?
Is this a well known issue and I've been just stumbling around in the dark for 2 weeks or is this not normal behavior?

[scarlet silo]

dont know. have been doing it all manually

[icy fjord]

does anyone know how to give openclaw perms to supabase? mcp instructions are confusing asf

[lone mulch]

Is there a possibility to assign a specific subagent or agent to a particular channel?
Example - main agent to #general
Appbuilder to #myapp
Bookwriter to #mybook

?

[unborn crystal]

I'm on 2026.4.29 and it's missing or slow to read turns in the control UI. In addition the control UI exhibits changing agent responses e.g. the agent shows a partial response then it completely disappears to be replaced by something different. I haven't had an openclaw this braindead in quite some time. I can roll back but I'm trying to gather data/understanding before I do. I'm using the lossless-claw plugin in case that matters. Any one else experiencing such weirdness?

[abstract spear]

If you are setting your claw bot to do a specific job, is repetition a good way for it to simply learn?

Do the job
Then tell it what's good and bad and have it self critique
Store memory

Repeat?

Or is this going to just create bloat

[mighty rampart]

A job to do sounds more like a skill. Or if it’s a more general reason for being then SOUL.md. But not simply memory / day logs. Either get it to update them or you do it. (What works depends on how capable a model you are using. )

[abstract spear]

Where in the docs or which docs can I find info on what the soul and skill . MD does exactly

I want to understand the basics of it all and how to build the AI to do a job better and reduce the context so that we don't bloat the ai costs

Aah I've found it under fundementals

[gilded axle]

Hi Fellows Lobsters! I need your help

Running OpenClaw HA add-on on HAOS (HA Green). IPv6 disabled at HA network level. Force IPv4 DNS Order ON in add-on options. NODE_OPTIONS=--dns-result-order=ipv4first set in Gateway Environment Variables.
Symptoms:

Gateway reaches [gateway] ready and [heartbeat] started successfully
Telegram fires 3x IPv6 fallbacks on every startup before falling back to IPv4
First message after startup takes 7-16 minutes to get a response
Subsequent messages normalize to ~1 minute
Sessions get stuck with ReplyRunAlreadyActiveError — clearing sessions.json.lock helps temporarily
curl -4 to api.telegram.org works instantly from HAOS terminal

Response time pattern:

Message 1: 16 min delay
Message 2: 10 min delay
Message 3: 7 min delay
Message 4: 1 min ✅

Question: Is there a way to force IPv4-only at the socket level on HAOS where the OS filesystem is read-only and sysctl commands fail? Any HAOS-specific fix for this startup polling stall?

[lime pawn]

Sheesh

[nimble hill]

well you can't expect anything better than from that rockchip 1.8 Ghz chip with 4 GB mem which is shared with HAOS + whatever containers you are running. The openclaw will take some time to start up fully (especially 4.29). So if after 16 mins, everything is responding within 1 min, it is fine for this hardware. Alternatively, use a seperate hardware and run openclaw as a docker container

[untold smelt]

Ok so I just got openclaw installed on portainer. And so I’m just wondering, how do I acc get started with openrouter? I put the key in on the stack code, and I have credits, but when I try to say something I don’t get a response and it times out

[misty vault]

Anyone tried this new release?

[granite bobcat]

Can someone tell me the most recent stable working version of openclaw for Windows? I've gone all the way back to 2026.2.6 and can't get any version to work fully

Have got the most recent version working in a virtualbox environment but want to run it on my Windows instance

[misty vault]

2026.04.23 works for me .

[granite bobcat]

I'm trying the most recent release now. If it doesn't work, we'll revert to that version. Thank you

[misty vault]

let me know if the most recent version works, I haven't had success upgrading.

[granite bobcat]

Did you install via npm so far the installer is working much better than the previous most recent version

So far it's working. Did have to go into openclaw json to grab token for web UI and paste to connect but it's working

Also, on the previous version it seemed like installing skills was causing issues and also in setting up the channel via telegram was also causing issues. This time I skipped both and just installed web hooks

[granite bobcat]

Am using Gemma 4 31b btw.

[misty vault]

Glad to hear it, what channels are you using? Did you successully chat?

[granite bobcat]

Not using any channels, that was causing issues with last version. Am successfully chatting now, some hallucinating but it seems to be correcting itself

[misty vault]

glad to hear it. I'll probably wait for someome to confirm skills or channels like discord and slack work.

[gilded axle]

@manjax Thanks — that makes sense on the hardware side. Quick follow-up: is the first message delay purely a startup/hardware issue, or is the IPv6 socket timeout a separate problem?
Even with Force IPv4 DNS Order ON and NODE_OPTIONS=--dns-result-order=ipv4first, OpenClaw still fires 3x IPv6 fallbacks on every polling cycle. HAOS filesystem is read-only so sysctl is not accessible. Is there a socket-level flag or OpenClaw config that kills IPv6 attempts entirely before the fallback triggers? Or is separate hardware the only real fix?

[tardy halo]

5.2 broke my discord and brave, anyone else? I'm stuck in a loop of reinstalling the plugins and enable them, the it finds them stale

[granite bobcat]

Had this issue but with telegram on previous version. Skipped channels on 5.2 install to avoid the issue altogether for now

[tardy halo]

meh, reverted to 4.29

[honest robin]

Same had to revert to 4.29, but its not clean.

[tardy halo]

now 4.29 is not reading my DISCORD_TOKEN envs 😐

[fallen socket]

Installing @openclaw/diffs into /home/ubuntu/.openclaw/npm…
Installing @openclaw/discord into /home/ubuntu/.openclaw/npm…
Plugin "discord" has 1 suspicious code pattern(s). Run "openclaw security audit --deep" for details.
Linked peerDependency "openclaw" -> /home/ubuntu/.npm-global/lib/node_modules/openclaw
Config overwrite: /home/ubuntu/.openclaw/openclaw.json (sha256 48d4f502e3bde0fb89e9d5d2b739380267a0117fe9764f0175ed1c87e905ad2a -> c6ab49756e48db4f7f58754e8ddeeb2c51639f7ffc5bb842728157b829cd16e5, backup=/home/ubuntu/.openclaw/openclaw.json.bak)
npm plugins: 2 updated, 0 unchanged, 1 failed, 1 skipped.
Plugin install payload missing after update: package directory is missing: /home/ubuntu/.openclaw/npm/node_modules/@openclaw/diffs.

discord is broken?

[tardy halo]

that's the same i'm seeing, also brave for web_search

[random pumice]

trying to use memory-lancedb on a fresh 5.2 install and i just get this when i configure it exactly like in the docs:

02:40:38+00:00 warn gateway/reload {"subsystem":"gateway/reload"} config reload restored last-known-good config after invalid-config; Rejected validation details: plugins.slots.memory: plugin not found: memory-lancedb.

[tardy halo]

yup, seems the plugin system is broken

[random pumice]

what a mess this project is lately

what's the last version that actualyl works? 4.23?

[fallen socket]

4.26 works for me

trying to roll back to it now

[random pumice]

do you use telegram channel?

[fallen socket]

no Discord

[misty vault]

2026.04.23 is the last I could get working reliably

[clever marten]

04.23 is the latest i can get to work in a stable manner. i use telegram and discord (bot&webhooks)

[random pumice]

how do i see an old version of the docs.openclaw.ai website

[clever marten]

how old? and for what purpose? you could try waybackmachine. i think it has a snapshot of the 24th of april

not sure how usefull it would be

[humble tide]

5.2 broke my discord too

[tardy halo]

https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/issues/76371

[humble tide]

Going back to 4.23.....because it worked

[humble tide]

4.23 was the last version for me that worked well

[sly yacht]

@clever marten I gave up on discord and ripped it out also 4.26 seems to be ok for the most part

[solemn widget]

Yes, you bind the channel id to the agent

[humble tide]

I had issues with 4.26

[nimble hill]

I think the first message is the purely a startup delay - you could observe the logs and check. I am not sure why IPV6 socket timeout occur? and if you are concerned about that, use the CLI interaction only openclaw agent --agent main --message "Who are you?" and check if you see the same delay

[lone mulch]

I have tried all methods, Binding at root, binding key in multiagente, binding inside agent list, however nothing works. Is there a love example snap from openclaw.json ?

[gilded axle]

@nimble hill Thanks for the suggestion to test via CLI! It was really useful in helping to isolate some of the issue. Ran the CLI test simultaneously with log monitoring and found a third issue stacking on top of the startup delay and IPv6 fallbacks:
EMBEDDED FALLBACK: Gateway agent failed; running embedded agent: Error: setRawMode EIO
This fired twice during the CLI test — at 3 and 5 minutes in. CLI couldn't connect to the running gateway and fell back to embedded agent, adding significant delay before any response. Appears separate from the IPv6 polling issue. Is this a known HAOS terminal limitation with the CLI tool?

[fallen socket]

yeah it broke my discord as well with the same issue. Had a harder time rolling back for some reason, had to resort to restoring my vps boot volume from a backup (lesson learned for future upgrades, I'll be taking a backup first). I have an issue here:https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/issues/76426 but I only captured limited logs.. if you have any details to add please do

[boreal holly]

I have a dumb question - how fast does openclaw respond to you in slack?

[soft ledge]

can someone help me my openclaw agent keeps on saying "I have nothing else to add" on my NVIDIA provider

[boreal holly]

I usually restart the gateway manually whenever something happens like that.

[tardy halo]

Here's a workaround for discord issues in 5.2
https://x.com/i/status/2050779336781988257

seems installing the WhatsApp plugin fixes discord

[crisp wing]

@i via Twitter

Vincent Koc (@vincent_koc)

↩ (@TejWadwa)
@TejWadwa openclaw plugins install npm:@openclaw/whatsapp@2026.5.2 --force
︀︀openclaw doctor --fix
︀︀openclaw gateway restart --deep

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FxTwitter · May 3, 2026, 3:27 AM

[tardy halo]

now I would need the fix for brave

Here's the brave plugin issue

https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/pull/76418

[nimble hill]

Can you test in 4.23? Since in 4.29 and aboave, addiotional scoping requirements are added and there is a catch 22 problem - the CLI cannot to devices approval until operator.admin is added, but you cannot add that scope unless you are operator.
Also, I dunno how add-ons within the HAOS work exactly - although they should behave like usual container.

[gilded axle]

@manjax Im currently on 2026.4.26 not 4.29 — does the catch-22 scope issue apply to 4.26 as well, or only 4.29+? Should I still test on 4.23?

[nimble hill]

i haven't loaded on 4.26 - however you can check if you are able to login to dashboard by disable the auth like below. Also add a specific ip address under allowedOrigins if you are on add-ons as it might use the host networking

    "controlUi": {
      "dangerouslyDisableDeviceAuth": true,
      "allowedOrigins": [
        "http://localhost:18789",
        "http://127.0.0.1:18789",

BTW. 5.2 is much lighter - atleast the 2026.5.2-slim version

[inner marsh]

i did not have luck with 2026.5.2 -- I spent 90 minutes trying to get it to work correctly, it did nothing but loop burning tons of Opus 4.6 tokens -- costly since this was by API. I could not get Grok 4.3 to work with 2026.5.2. I finally gave up and reverted back again to 2026.4.23, which is stable.

[gilded axle]

@manjax I already have dangerouslyDisableDeviceAuth=true set which it shows in every log. The allowedOrigins suggestion is interesting but on HAOS the config JSON is regenerated on every restart so edits don't persist. Is there a way to set allowedOrigins through the add-on options UI, or another persistent config method on HAOS?

Has anyone run 2026.5.2-slim on the HAOS add-on specifically? Does the slim version address the startup delays and CLI gateway connection issues on lower-powered hardware like HA Green?

[nimble hill]

Whenever I create a new container for new version I use either locally model or cheap cloud model like Nano

[nimble hill]

5.2-slim on a docker cotianer/ k8s pod starts quite fast. When compared to 4.29 (which was unusually slow)

[gilded axle]

@manjax confirmed Im going the Docker route on separate hardware. For a fresh Docker install targeting stability, would you recommend 4.23 or 5.2-slim?

[humble tide]

4.23

[soft ledge]

guys is there a way to make my agent stop narrating everything he does

he keeps saying "let me think", "the user said <x> so" and stuff

[worldly crown]

set "/reasoning off"?!?!

[nimble hill]

Well try both 😃 thats the flexibility you get using docker. Just make sure you map the .openclaw for each container seperate.
Let me know if you need compose. I should be able to give back in 3-4 hours when I am back at my desk

[desert pivot]

my whatsapp connection keeps failing:

openclaw channels login --channel whatsapp

🦞 OpenClaw 2026.4.27 (cbc2ba0) — Your AI assistant, now without the $3,499 headset.

Waiting for WhatsApp connection...
WhatsApp Web connection ended before fully opening. status=428 Precondition Required Connection Terminated
Channel login failed: Error: status=428 Precondition Required Connection Terminated

[soft ledge]

well i wouldn't be coming here if i already tried

its a specific issue with NVIDIA

[gilded axle]

really appreciate the support. Let me see where I get

[gilded axle]

@manjax Also that would be amazing, really appreciate it! Yes please on the compose file when you're back. I decided to just beef up my hardware and per your suggestions test both 4.23 and 5.2-slim on fresh Ubuntu on a Beelink Mini S12. Gives me an excuse to buy something nice LOL. Looking forward to it!

[lilac sparrow]

Good morning!, I installed OpenClaw on my VPS. All is fine until the model was changed to rate-limit (excited to using OpenClaw). I added some fallbacks models but not switch correctly. Someone can help me to solve it? I see that the main model works perfect I don't have any problem but rate limits or model down is a problem to switch to fallbacks. Any suggestion or help? Thanks in advance !

[hardy sleet]

WhatsApp QR is hard to appear, I have tried several times but failed., is anyone experiencing the same thing as me?

[solid swallow]

Good morning together! Is the 5.2 release stable?

[dense sleet]

No release is stable enough

Try it 🙂

[solid swallow]

A bit more stable than the last ones? 🙂

[dense sleet]

Can't tell

Haven't updated

[solid swallow]

😄

[dense sleet]

Just update and see if something breaks

You can always roll back

Or open a pr

[solid swallow]

Maybe later. I've to use the time to play with my little one.

[lilac sparrow]

Someone can help me with failovers or fallbacks please?

[worn tangle]

Hey folks, I built Clawback after getting burned by an OpenClaw upgrade + rollback.

It rehearses an OpenClaw upgrade against your own setup before touching the live install, so you can catch gateway/auth/channel/agent regressions early.

Repo:
https://github.com/haishmg/Clawback

Latest release:
https://github.com/haishmg/Clawback/releases/tag/v0.3.2

I’m an OpenClaw contributor and heavy user, and this came from real upgrade pain. Feedback/regression cases welcome.

[hasty steeple]

Hi does anyone know where I can even start to use openclaw? I have a spare Mac mini lying around and I’m looking online and there are so many tutorials.

I want to actually understand something I am doing. Is there anyway I can start?

I am like a complete beginner lol but I have a hole ass summer to learn ts

Any help would be appreciate 🙏🙏🙏

[spark valley]

Yes you can get overwhelmed by the resources and they basically give zero step by step tutorial , i have a detailed guide basically for a few bucks if you'd like to support me and if you dont have money just come get it for free, it contains my whole 2 month of experience (mostly errors because openclaw has alot lol) but yeah feel free to reach out

[hasty steeple]

Hi! Thanks for responding!

Is there a way I can see what it looks like?

I’m kind of wondering where to even start is there like top down way of looking at things?

Like high level to more smaller detailed way as I set it up?

For reference my programming experience is only Olympiad programming not like legit software engineering ideas so all I know are leetcodes 😭😭🙏🙏

Tech wise

[spark valley]

It's alright won't gatekeep already public information i just structure it for a 10 yr old to be able to start at it. If you don't want to pay for it it okay no need. Just dm i will sent it o u

I can go with you step by step if you want also

[hasty steeple]

Can I see the pdf first? I think it’s worth me reading first in detail before anything lol

I believe in the read first end to end

Then ask questions it avoids a lot of frustration down the road

Thanks for offering btw

How much do you want lol I’m a uni student n moneys tight lol

[spark valley]

Yea fs , drop me a dm i will send you i want to send here yk for people, i will send my gumroad link you just put whatever u want if you want it for free just put a zero and enjoy.

[spark valley]

You don't have to you can pay whatever

Or not at all

[hasty steeple]

Dmed!

[hasty steeple]

Thanks man I’ve been eating frozen 5 dollar pizza for a month during exam season

[spark valley]

It's alright man , it's made for people like you to get dtarted for zero.

[nimble hill]

here you go. To install docker engine - avoid using root user
wget get.docker.com; sh index.html . After the docker engine is installed, give the logged in user the docker group access sudo usermod -aG docker <user> Login and logout
verify the docker installation with this simple docker container docker run --name hello hello-world if this runs fine. You are good to install openclaw

@gilded axle
openclaw docker compose. Create a .openclaw dir in the home folder, this would become persistent storage - or defined a location. Similarly you can copy this compose into a new folder and run another docker container there - just ensure that the left side of volumes: section is different for each compose. Also keep the left hand number for the port different

services:
  openclaw:
    image: ghcr.io/openclaw/openclaw:2026.4.23-slim
    container_name: openclaw
    restart: unless-stopped
    environment:
      - OPENCLAW_GATEWAY_TOKEN=${OPENCLAW_GATEWAY_TOKEN}
    ports:
    - 18789:18789
    volumes:
    - $HOME/.openclaw:/home/node/.openclaw

If you want to run a docker container a node in a sperate machine which can connect to the gateway follow this. the DISPLAY is if you want to pull up say chromium in the machine that is running this container

services:
  oc:
    container_name: oc
    image: ghcr.io/openclaw/openclaw:2026.4.23-slim
    environment:
      OPENCLAW_GATEWAY_TOKEN: "<gateway_token>"
      OPENCLAW_ALLOW_INSECURE_PRIVATE_WS: "1"
      DISPLAY: host.docker.internal:0      
    privileged: true
    restart: unless-stopped
    command:
      [
        "openclaw",
        "node",
        "run",
        "--display-name",
        "oc-node",
        "--host",
        "<ip-add-of-gateway>",
        "--port",
        "18789",
      ]

[clever marten]

thats not really an option for me since i use the channels to keep outputs seperate and to let family use it

[spark valley]

Here guys i want to share something, people here discuss auth issues gateway timout soul.md customizing , setting up dockers and all the other techy terms but there some people are just watching they see it like gibberish, so i stepped up and made a humble guide for getting past the first phase which is installation, i want to do a series each day i will make a guide on a topic continuing ie day one installation day two connecting channels...etc, it is all free for everyone you can tip if u like but it is mainly free and i would continue making these guides for free i just need to see if people actually intrested, because the barrier for entry, to this amazing era of AI agentic systems , shouldn't be knowledge because it is everywhere these days just not structured correctly for normal non techy persons, i would love to hear all of your thoughts on this. I want to drop the link here but idk if it's allowed...i need support just emotional support and motivation to keep going...

[sharp thicket]

Hi guys, in last update my gateway kept restarting, the problem was the discord bot token was not read from .env anymore, put it directly in config solve it, all good now. If that can help someone 🍺

[nimble hill]

What's wrong with the official docs? The reason i have docker setup is becuase official docs are kinda old fashioned for docker install

[spark valley]

Well it is not about dpcker or anything, if the official docs were so easy i dont see why people keep saying the same thing "can anyone help me setup OC"

[haughty bane]

I understand that it's common practice to version control OpenClaw's workspace folder. Why shouldn't transcripts and config be version controlled as well? (I understand that credentials shouldn't be checked into version control).

[thorny ruin]

Hi, would anyone have an idea of the best way to backup your openclaw for continuity purposes when running on a local? What are the important foldersnto back up so it retains memory, skills etc? Or should I just backup the whole .openclaw folder

[nimble hill]

because people don't read official docs, they just go to chat models and ask for instruction, and they do not provide clear path - especially claude which sometimes do not even recognize openclaw

[spark valley]

And that's exactly i want to do this ( btw the doc isn't as simplified as you think for non techy)

[nimble hill]

FYI, spent 24 M tokens in one afternoon! managing 2 kubernetes cluster and establishing multicluster connectivity. Nothing that i could not have done myself and that too much faster 🙂
model: mimo-v2.5

Usage Overview
Messages ? 338, 65 user · 273 assistant
Throughput ? 47.4K tok/min
Tool Calls ? 265, 30 tools used
Avg Tokens / Msg ? 72.2K, Across 338 messages
Cache Hit Rate ? 95.6%, 23.3M cached · 24.4M prompt
Error Rate ? 0.00%, 0 errors · 8h 34m avg session
Sessions ? 1, of 1 in range
Errors ? 0
---
Top Models ? mimo-v2.5 $0.00 24.4M · 272 msgs 
Top Providers ? xiaomi $0.00 24.4M · 272 msgs 
Top Tools ?
exec: 75 calls
mcpjungle__mkc-k8s__pods_exec: 39 calls
read: 24 calls
mcpjungle__oci-k8s__pods_exec: 22 calls
web_fetch: 18 calls
web_search: 11 calls

[nimble hill]

Look, if you think official docs are not enough, do as you must. However, the problem is about maintenance - openclaw is very much in beta (I would actually label as high-alpha) and hence there are quite a drastic changes between versions, so you would need to keep up that as the versions change, which would be quite difficult unless you use AI to assist you in doing the same thing that the official version does. Otherwise, you docs version will soon drift away and the users using your docs would be more unsatisfied and less trust on the openclaw itself. Hope you understand my point. if it is about making some money while you do this - best of luck!

[spark valley]

Well my guides are mostly for beginners so they wouldn't get stuck on instalstion or basic stuff and also a cron job that auto update the guides on latest github issues and openclaw updates and changelog.

[spark valley]

So basically the guide is actually up to date each day a new update drops

[winter flame]

Any of you noticed an enormous slowdown of /models in Telegram? 2026.5.2 as the reference version.

Is there a know fix? It shows also providers I've not setup.

[gilded axle]

Thank you Thank you! for the suggestions and support. Ill give it a shot and see what happens

[prisma bear]

How do I rotate my api key using openclaw what is the command?

[halcyon pumice]

Hi everyone,

I’m new to OpenClaw and recently deployed it on a VPS. The setup mostly works, but I’m facing a blocking issue with chat responses.

What’s working:

• Gateway is running
• UI loads correctly in the browser
• I can open the chat interface

Issue:
When I send a message, I don’t receive any response.

Logs (relevant):

agent/embedded {"subsystem":"agent/embedded"} Profile google:default timed out. Trying next account...

[llm-idle-timeout] google/gemini-3.1-pro-preview produced no reply before the idle watchdog; retrying same model

gateway/ws ⇄ res ✓ sessions.list ...

Profile google:default timed out. Trying next account...

What I observed:

• It looks like the model (Gemini) is timing out
• Possibly related to CLI ↔ gateway WebSocket handshake (based on some discussions I found)
• No successful response is returned from the model

What I’ve tried:

• Switching between different models
• Restarting services
• Verifying nginx WebSocket configuration

Environment:

• VPS deployment
• Nginx as reverse proxy
• Backend running locally (proxied)

Questions:

1. Is this a known issue with Gemini models or gateway WebSocket handling?
2. Could this be related to misconfigured API keys or provider setup?
3. Any recommended way to debug whether the request is reaching the LLM provider?

Any help or pointers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

[winter flame]

Solved. In case someone trips over this like me just disable plugin discovery and if possible set default models in agents.defaults.

[grizzled sandal]

Hm, My agent is replying with "NO" to a ton of things, I aked if he ahd a messages tool available and said NO, asked him to list his available tools, answered with NO. what is wrong with it?

[formal laurel]

Hi - I'm on 2026.05.02, is it a known issue that the agent doesn't respond the message dropped in the channel? DM works fine.

[solar cloud]

Hey everyone ... my OC maintenance agent and I are trying to get active memory funtionality working on Apr29th OC version and are having the problem below. If any of you have worked through this already and can point to relevant issue number or any other solution details, that would be great. Thanks.
memory-lancedb is already in plugins.allow
source clearly shows ltm is provided by memory-lancedb
but the CLI is still behaving as if it can’t resolve that alias owner

So my agent is now chasing a narrower issue:
why the alias resolution for ltm is failing even though memory-lancedb is enabled and loaded.
Agent suspects we likely have one of these:

1. a docs/build mismatch
2. a command alias resolution bug for ltm
3. or a plugin command registration quirk in this installed version

Agent is going to trace whether the installed build can map: ltm → memory-lancedb the way run-main.js says it should.

[clever marten]

check if you have the option enabled to only answer to direct mentions. i think thats enabled by default hence your claw will only answer if you @ them in said channel

[formal laurel]

I tried, @ doesn't work either. it was a bug on 04.26 I think, got fixed on 04.29

[unborn zealot]

are there
table to compare all the llm and pricing and use case i need for coding saas and stuff add feature and backend include claude benchmark for comparison

[digital grove]

Agents can't make outbound HTTP calls from sandbox. curl, python3, wget all unavailable. Network is set to bridge. How do I enable outbound fetch for plugins like Firecrawl?

[scarlet silo]

there should be a doc with all available options for openclaw.json
its a nightmare to figger out the syntax...

[clever marten]

and more verbosity on whats going on under the hood. i spend 90% of the time trying to figure out whats causing silent failures and silent hangs...

[mighty rampart]

If you have one of the subscriptions, (Claude, Codex, etc.) then you have a very capable assistant for your OpenClaw installation. Install one of their clients (Claude Code, Codex -- use the apps if you prefer a UI instead of the terminal.). Point them at your .openclaw directory that contains your configuration. For extra credit git clone the open claw source code (They can probably do this for you or walk you through it.). You now have a senior engineer and devops persona at your service. Tell it what you are doing and what you need help with.

[solar cloud]

I actually created a specialized openclaw agent to help suggest and explain openclaw maintenance tasks ... so I don't have to go back and forth between providers

[unborn igloo]

+1

[mighty rampart]

I know the promise is that OC can do this itself -- discover and download plugins, fix its own configuration, and this may be true if your main agent uses Opus. But many of us are not in that situation (I use Gemma4:26b locally which is surprisingly capable. But I do not trust it to reconfigure itself.)

[scarlet silo]

i use 5.5 all the time for this but its just not good enough

[solar cloud]

I'm having pretty good success with gpt5.4 but I agree it needs oversight ... still, it points me in the right direction and helps me zero in on relevant docs in the OC git

[clever marten]

im running 31b locally and while its a salvation... it bricks itself more often than it fixes itself. but i must say its been the main source of clarity for ambiguous config options. (tooltips would be great to know what does what in the config.)

[nocturne zephyr]

In a thread FundamentalOmega pointed to this doc (https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/blob/main/docs/gateway/configuration.md) and I've used it in the past a lot to figure exactly that out. You can also point your agent at it, and ask (generally use dotted path notation) what a particular config does. It's not tooltips, but it's pretty nice.

[clever marten]

thank you, will give it a shot

[nimble hill]

Have you checked this?
https://docs.openclaw.ai/gateway/configuration-reference
I guess what you are missing is permutation and combination of what works - which is difficult in this complex project.
Most of the time use cli to configure things, as you may mess up .json format if you are not using any ide

[sly yacht]

The keyword filter approach might work for you — instead of separate channels, everything goes to one place but gets tagged/filtered by topic so different outputs are still distinguishable. Basically you define keywords (like 'alert', 'trade', 'weather', whatever fits your setup) and the bot routes or highlights messages based on those instead of pushing to separate channels. Depends on whether you need true access separation for family members or just visual organization — if family members need to be blocked from seeing certain outputs entirely, channels are still the right call. But if it's more about keeping things sorted, filters can simplify the setup a lot.

[clever marten]

the goal is both, visual separation (i dont want youtube videos mixed with homeassistant outputs.) and different family members have different accesses and needs (my SO doesnt want to get spammed with error messages or debug info) while i dont need to see the prompts from her work. so far this way has been the best way ive found to strike that balance. but as OC updates have proven to me. its a delicate balance.

[sly yacht]

That makes total sense and honestly, i'm kind of jealous that you have people that do it with you lol but you're solving two things at once: access control and visual separation, and channels handle both in one shot. Keyword filters can do the visual side but they can't do the access side, so for your setup channels are the right call. The fragility with OC updates is the real pain point — the question is whether there's a way to make the channel routing more resilient to updates rather than rebuilding it each time.

[winter flame]

Did that to me too one time, have you tried restarting the gateway or resetting the session?

[humble zephyr]

anyone know, why if i install one plugin, the other one is automatically turned off / not detected?

literally cant use two plugins at once.

[sly yacht]

What version you running?

[humble zephyr]

latest

i cant run both discord and honcho at the same time

💀

[sly yacht]

I'm still holding on 4.26... i don't know what they've been doing after .26 but it ain't the right thing

[humble zephyr]

will downgrading break anything?

[sullen vessel]

from a performance perspective, which is preferred: OpenAI using api key or OpenAI using codex oauth?

[humble zephyr]

does it have plugins support?

[sly yacht]

Yes. i believe that was implemented in .25 (.25 had some bigger changes)

[humble zephyr]

okay okayy

[quick path]

asking for a friend. been trying to bring my open claw back to work for 2 days. Can answer simple questions but the moment needs to code something it throws :Something went wrong while processing your request. Please try again, or use /new to start a fresh session."
Tried:

• doctor --fix
• Update
• claude code to troubleshoot
• reinstall

Nolthing works.. Any advice? thanks

[clever marten]

thanks! ive tried to answer that question but not luck so far. some integrations remain to be finished aswell because OC is breaking so often. ive tried hermes but that one just behaves like the llm. i has no memory, wont use tools and replies to me like im prompting it from the ollama instance directly. no agents.md or soul.md costumization is read. but thats a different fight

[clever marten]

for some reason besides the constante message you get stating openclaw config was written by a newer version. sometimes OC will refuse to function after the rollback. i had to reinstall several times because of it

[humble zephyr]

well thankfully mine seems to be working

thank god

well replies are so slow tho rn

which was not an issue in the latest one

[eager whale]

I've updated from 2026.4.22 to 2026.5.2 and my openclaw is not working anymore.

Setup: discord + gemini API + cron jobs

Hosted on Ubuntu VM

An unknown error occurred
gateway disconnected: closed | idle

I'm seeing LLM timeouts as well, but the Gemini calls do not have any issues.

16:33:27+00:00 error diagnostic {"subsystem":"diagnostic"} lane task error: lane=session:agent:main:discord:channel:1487379402215133205 durationMs=129181 error="FailoverError: LLM request timed out."

I'm not sure what part of the config is relevant here.

tried to rollback and it was complaining that my config is set by a latest 5.2 version. Didn't want to deal with all that. So, simply moved it back to 5.2.

Even @fervent sail saw this problem!

[sly yacht]

The fastest replies I found was on.23 but you miss out on a bunch of features the speed thing definitely, take some time to get used to it does get better to a certain point.After it's done cooking

[eager whale]

link to the help post: https://discord.com/channels/1456350064065904867/1500541063394496663

[sly yacht]

😐 thats a jump....

[eager whale]

i mean, two weeks. 🥲

[humble zephyr]

yeah oh well, atp ig ill just wait someday, an update will drop and it will fix eerything

[fervent sail]

Having hermes fix it gateway is runnable again

[sly yacht]

That's what i'm waiting for 😆 just have to work with it different ie ok thats sent now im going to xyz ( youtube tiktok other processes that take human input)

[sly musk]

Hi , I am trying to install honcho for memory but post the installation

Installed plugin: openclaw-honcho
Restart the gateway to load plugins.

~ ❯ openclaw honcho setup
error: unknown command 'honcho'

i get his error does anyone seen such case ?

[humble zephyr]

same issue buddy

[sly musk]

is it an update issue ?

[humble zephyr]

i assume

as i got it working on uh

4.26

[sly musk]

I upgraded it because there were so many timeouts for the llms , I couldnt understand the api's were working fine

[sly yacht]

Yes v.26 is the last usable one that I have found i'm sure if you dig long enough and thorough enough tokens at it. You can get it working But at this point it's not worth fixing somebody else's problem . I spent 2-3 days and finally landed on rolling back (wish I did it sooner) that was at .27 after I upgraded hardware it still looks like the newer ones have the same problems I know .29 when's basically unusable also

[sly musk]

Let me rollback and retry

[solemn widget]

Hi, when I'm back on my laptop I'll post how my config looks

[grizzled sandal]

Yes, both, but still happens. My agents have never been smart, never could get them to even run a tool reliably, but this is a whole new level.

[queen void]

Anyone having problems with plugin tools not showing up when using alsoAllow in the agents sessions?. They show up with allow but then i need to go one by one adding all the tools .... . Is this intended to work like this or is a bug?.

[worthy jasper]

This is a scrub quesyion, but how do i allow my agent to hit a website? i vibecoded a custom agent to ping a web server api w json but it cant even reach my website or even google for that matter

[random pumice]

the memory-lancedb plugin is supposed to be bundled in 5.2 but i just get plugin not found: memory-lancedb. What is the issue

[scarlet silo]

maybe you have to install it...

[queen void]

Looking to the code doesn't look the overall resolution of what is allowed and what is not is unclear

[random pumice]

probably shouldnt be called a bundled plugin then in the docs

anyway, fixed it

[spark valley]

You need to visit the provider site

[grizzled sandal]

So, i just did a clean install on a new VM, my agent forgets what we are talking about from one question to the next. what is wrong with it?

Like, I'm at the initial hatch, I gave it a name, and it's next question is what name do I wnat to give it

[spark valley]

Use hermes to fix oc lol

[wary flint]

OAuth. All day.

[grizzled sandal]

what is the latest really stable openclaw version?

[solemn widget]

I have tried all methods, Binding at

[scarlet silo]

@markh1010 4.23 so it seams

[grizzled sandal]

thanks

[still urchin]

nope, for executing code/tools by openclaw agent

[unborn crystal]

To get discord working w/ 2026.5.2 I had to unset channels.discord.token: https://gist.github.com/mateu/6335e2a7f5575ca48722ea7b2fc19aac

[patent cobalt]

Anyone knows when @sharp parcel will be up?

[fervent valve]

have you tried OC with grok 4.3 ? how does it work so far please ?

[granite bobcat]

Of the folks who have installed the most recent version, what are your biggest complaints?

[junior robin]

yall able to update to the newest versions lmao

forever stuck on 4.23

[sly yacht]

I'm on .26 and its mostly stable

[granite bobcat]

You don't want the most recent version.

[hot blade]

why does openclaw get stuck on Starting setup when trying to install it?

[sacred birch]

Did something change with the 'message' tool so that it won't attach zip files to discord messages anymore? It used to, but now it won't and tells me it'll only attach media files. (I don't see anything in a changelog. I'm just wondering if this is some allow thing I screwed up.)

[bright cedar]

How do I install the codex plugin? My OpenClaw says I do not have it

I am on 2026.5.2

[hallow prawn]

Is 2026.5.2 stable, or does it break everything like anything beyond 4.23?

[turbid bear]

I’m on 2026.5.2 and my messages disappear with my agent after I send a message. He doesn’t remember what he just said. He only knows what I just told him

Does anyone know how to fix this or is having similar issue?

[misty vault]

2026.5.2 is more stable but I'm still haing sessions.list issues

[civic locust]

if you're using lossless-claw, something is kinda broken so maybe that is the issue

but otherwise i have found 5.2 to be quite lovely

still cant figure out the codex harness via oauth though lmao but otherwise all good

[indigo nebula]

If you’re using LCM you need to upgrade to 0.9.3 of lossless-claw. openclaw plugins update @martian-engineering/lossless-claw openclaw gateway restart

[indigo nebula]

Run: npm i -g @openai/codex
Then see https://docs.openclaw.ai/plugins/codex-harness

[ocean steeple]

Anyone face this or have documentation to fix this?

rob@raspberrypi:/tmp $ openclaw plugins install @openclaw/whatsapp
Config warnings:

• plugins.entries.whatsapp: plugin not found: whatsapp (stale config entry ignored; remove it from plugins config)
• plugins.allow: plugin not found: whatsapp (stale config entry ignored; remove it from plugins config)

🦞 OpenClaw 2026.5.3-beta.2 (315a933) — I run on caffeine, JSON5, and the audacity of "it worked on my machine."

│
◇ Config warnings ─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╮
│ │
│ - plugins.entries.whatsapp: plugin not found: whatsapp (stale config entry ignored; │
│ remove it from plugins config) │
│ - plugins.allow: plugin not found: whatsapp (stale config entry ignored; remove it from │
│ plugins config) │
│ │
├───────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────╯
Installing @openclaw/whatsapp into /home/rob/.openclaw/npm…
Downloading @openclaw/whatsapp…
Extracting /tmp/openclaw-hook-pack-m1dcEZ/openclaw-whatsapp-2026.5.2.tgz…
package install requires compiled runtime output for TypeScript entry ./index.ts: expected ./dist/index.js, ./dist/index.mjs, ./dist/index.cjs, ./index.js, ./index.mjs, ./index.cjs
Also not a valid hook pack: Error: package.json missing openclaw.hooks

[umbral lily]

is anybody having any issues with discord channel setup in openclaw ? I've upgraded to the latest version of openclaw and now my bot has gone offline and it says its because of "unresolveed SecretRef" for the discord bot token ? Anyone know anything that could help me fix this ? Im guessing i might need to roll back to the previous version

[tardy halo]

here: npm install -g openclaw@2026.4.23

[hallow prawn]

So I am on to 5.2....so far it is working in that it didn't completely render itself unusable and I can communicate with by agent. However, it keeps repeating itself. I'll ask it something. It will answer. I'll progress the conversation, and it will given another version of what it just said. What's going on here?

[tardy halo]

Yes, i went back to using "token": "${DISCORD_TOKEN}" instead of SecretRef until they fix it
⚠️ Not best security practice.

[umbral lily]

I tried that and that seems to work so I'll just stick to that like you said until they fix it

[tardy halo]

yeah, I was having that issue with 4.29 also, I just rolled back to 4.23 that seems to be more stable for discord integrations, but still finding it very slow

[strange moon]

How can i test the ios app early?

[foggy field]

Has anyone written a script or guide on how to totally nuke OpenClaw while keeping the stuff we've authored while working with it? Mine had been increasingly episodic for the past few weeks. Working great at times, then going totally non responsive and/or breaking stuff badly. Now I can't get it to respond at all. I tried backing up the Workspace and completely reinstalling, no change. I tried downgrading to 4.23, no change. It's expletive annoying to say the least.

[indigo nebula]

Try openclaw plugins install npm:@openclaw/whatsapp@2026.5.2 --force then do a openclaw gateway restart

[iron shuttle]

How do u guys run /goal with openclaw?

[worthy jasper]

Anybody have a clue about this?

[half sigil]

I am building a mission control dashboard and trying to access the developed one (I set up my openclaw on VPS) from my local machine. However, it is so so hard to make it running. I used SSH key to access the VPS machine (access is successful), but the http://localhost:3002/ just keep failing. Why would be the case?

Or is macmini just the ultimate solution instead of VPS which keeps telling me I cannot access agents, websites from my local machine

[trim wolf]

fwiw I gave up on vps for dashboard access exactly because of this, just docker on my own box now, localhost:port in the browser and done, no tunnel acrobatics. mac mini is overkill if you already have a desktop or laptop running.

[half sigil]

Thank you for sharing. May I know your desktop/laptop ram? My personal laptop is a macbook air 16g I don't know whether it is enough

[tropic dagger]

"WhatsApp channel stops working after gateway restart. Error: 'device identity required'. Credentials saved in openclaw.json but gateway doesn't load them. Running v2026.5.2 on Mac Mini M4. How to fix permanently?

[tropic dagger]

Running OpenClaw v2026.5.2 as LaunchAgent on Mac Mini M4 (headless, no monitor). WhatsApp channel dies whenever no client is connected to the dashboard (localhost:18789). As soon as a browser opens the dashboard, WhatsApp reconnects immediately. Is there a headless/standalone mode to keep WhatsApp alive without a browser client connected? Gateway mode is "local".

[balmy goblet]

anyone know how i can fix the !!!!!!!!!!! problem when using kimi 2.6 on nvidia nim?

[tardy halo]

we're back!! 🦞
pretty sure they finally ran openclaw doctor -fix

2026.5.3-1 🦞 fixed my discord and brave issues finally!! I think I'll stay on this one for awhile

[iron shuttle]

Anyone knows how to run /goal with openclaw? Is there a cool integration with this codex feauture?

[fervent nymph]

Anyone running openrouter/auto as the default model? I get no response back on my channel. If I change the default to openrouter/<a specific model>, it works.
Curious if I'm missing something. Thanks!

[pallid cove]

it should be able to use curl if it has the exec tool permission. or web_fetch

[grave fog]

hi guys

• OpenClaw's Dashboard UI metrics vs DeepSeek's (Waaay Different numbers?)

shows 47.7M tokens while the deepseek api dashboard ui shows way more (yes I have another tool other than openclaw that uses deepseek but i'm almost sure their usage is near zero compared to openclaw's in two months the other one took <$0.1 and less than 20k tokens , I think there is something that I dont get it here

[shut onyx]

Guys, i have question: I have a multiple main agents in my openclaw setup, discord is good for me or telegram which one is better for my setup?

[junior robin]

NO WAY 5.3-1 is working from 4.23

This might be it guys if you've been waiting

probably need to test it out more though

[copper nova]

thanks for being patient with us, we will continue working on stability issues as they arise

[grave fog]

Any help on that

[ebon leaf]

Does 5.3 limit the agents ability to modify the config?

"What changed / what restriction is:

OpenClaw now treats agent-driven config edits through the gateway tool as a protected control-plane action. config.patch / config.apply are fail-closed: agents can only edit a narrow hardcoded allowlist.

Allowed through my gateway tool:

• agent prompt/model defaults
• thinking/reasoning/fast-mode defaults
• some agent list model/thinking fields
• group mention gating
• visible reply settings

Blocked through my gateway tool:

• Telegram/channel streaming settings
• heartbeat indicator settings
• auth/secrets
• exec security
• broader tools config
• gateway/network exposure
• most plugin/channel config"

[rigid light]

General question.... the last several versions of openclaw have slowed my agent's response time to 20 to 30 seconds+ Does anyone anecdotally happen to have a few suggestions for which version to go back to while it's being worked on?

[junior robin]

maybe 4.23 I was looking at comparisons on the openclaw reddit someone made "| Hardware | Version | Time | Result |
|---|---|---|---|
| Pi4 8GB | 4.23 | 8s | ✅ Baseline |
| Pi5 8GB | 5.2 (pre-restart, swap thrashing) | 22s | ⚠️ 3× slower |
| Pi5 8GB | 5.2 (fresh restart, clean) | 12s | ⚠️ 50% slower on faster hardware |
| Pi5 8GB | 5.2 (fresh, 15s timeout) | TIMEOUT | ❌ Prep alone took 11.2s |
"

[rigid light]

Thanks!

[rigid light]

Would you mind DMing me a link to that? I'd like to take a look

[hasty mango]

hey guys! asking here since krill is down

"Anthropic Subscription CLI Allowed?

I saw this message on the openclaw docs

"Anthropic staff told us OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage
is allowed again, so OpenClaw treats Claude CLI reuse
and claude -p usage as sanctioned unless Anthropic
publishes a new policy.
For long-lived gateway hosts, Anthropic API keys are still
the clearest and most predictable production path.
Anthropic's current public docs:
Claude Code CLI reference
Claude Agent SDK overview
Using Claude Code with your Pro or Max plan
Using Claude Code with your Team or Enterprise plan"

Does this mean that we can use our pro/max
subscriptions in the same way you can use the
openai/codex subscription through Auth and not get
your account banned/blocked? I heard that there was a
huge crackdown, but I haven't seen anything else about
this change.

Where can I get more information on this instead of just
"source: trust me bro"

[versed fulcrum]

Has anyone else noticed this?

When using responses API with LM Studio,
OpenClaw sends reasoning.encrypted_content which LMStudio ignores, so thinking never happens

[junior robin]

you need to accept my friend request for me to dm you. It should be "2026.4.29 is broken, avoid it" for the title of the post

[crystal breach]

If anyone can point me in the right direction to solve this warning: warn diagnostic {"subsystem":"diagnostic"} liveness warning: reasons=event_loop_delay interval=30s eventLoopDelayP99Ms=423.1 eventLoopDelayMaxMs=2470.4 eventLoopUtilization=0.423 cpuCoreRatio=0.459 active=1 waiting=0 queued=

My chat sessions aren't responding to any prompts

[tardy halo]

I just noticed my upgrade rewrote my openclaw.json with all my api keys and tokens instead of Secret Ref that I had setup

[versed fulcrum]

Same. It removed all my $includes and restored from backup

[civic locust]

Good question

[craggy yew]

great just updated to the latest version from 4.23, only thing that broke was the discord and whatsapp which are plugins now after the update everything broke on those channels because the plugins work different with secrets and tools for replying . claude cli fixed it for

happy it works now! glad i made a backup 🙂

[elder aspen]

I just upgraded to v2026.5.3-1 and am trying to set ollama/deepseek-v4-pro:cloud to "max" thinking mode. I can do that directely in ollama -- my version supports it. And I thought that it was now supported in OpenClaw, but I keep getting Thinking level "max" is not supported for ollama/deepseek-v4-pro:cloud. Use one of: off, minimal, low, medium, high.

Does anyone have this working? Is there some magic incantation I am missing?

[foggy field]

More on my problem... Something in my workspace folder is causing openclaw to go mute. I've tried different versions, I've tried completely removing and reinstalling, I've tried Gemini, GPT 5.4 and 5.5 and several local models. All go mute after one or two responses. They'll sometimes 'think' for a bit before all activity seems to cease.

Any advice on where to look? I'm not doing anything particularly exotic so far as I know. Just a bunch of custom dashboard styff so far.

[fair prawn]

Show me the last 10 entries with

openclaw logs --follow

[calm meadow]

hey everyone, I'm trying to create a minimal assistant backed by apple intelligence. No coding skills, just ask simple stuff. No need for memory, nor remember things. I tried setting minimal *.md documents but still apfel overflows:

POST /v1/chat/completions 400 746ms stream error="Input exceeds the 4096-token context window. Shorten the conversation history."
  • request bytes=56139
  • decoded messages=8 stream=true model=apple-foundationmodel
  • context build failed: Input exceeds the 4096-token context window. Shorten the conversation history.

any suggestions for configuration?

[nimble hill]

apple intelligence?

[sharp compass]

Is "apple intelligence" a LLM with a 4096-token context window? Is that a hard limit or can you bump it up? I've been running with the smaller (8B) qwen models and things worked well with 16k token context window.

[clever marten]

has anyone used the summerize tool on youtube videos sucessfully?

[random pumice]

Is there a best way to setup OpenClaw to read a gmail inbox?

[clever marten]

with the gog skill perhaps? youll need the api key i think

[valid garden]

whats the best ai to use for openclaw?

i mean not like crazy expensive for tokens (mostly for homework)

[humble tide]

what are people thinking so far of 5.3...I have been sticking with 4.23 and had bad luck with everything up to 5.2...should I be hopeful for 5.3?

[weary basin]

What's the story on 2026.5.3-1 or 5.4 beta?

I haven't updated since 4.23 and I'm super hesitant with so many people having issues with updates after that.

But my lossless claw has been broken since 4.14 and it's messing me up. I'm hearing the new lossless update (That will hopefully fix it 🤞🏽) needs openclaw 5.2+

Are one or both of these new OpenClaw updates ok? Or should I keep waiting to update? Thanks!!!

[clever marten]

honestly it seems pretty stable. ive moved from 4.23 to 5.3-1 and everything seems to be working but update at your own risk our setups can be drastically different and while nothing breaks on mine yours could go nuclear. back up your configs before hand or try it on a different machine beforehand. rollback is possible but better to be safe than sorry

[clever marten]

cheapest atm seems to be deepseek.

[humble tide]

Did you struggle with any of the aforementioned versions?

[clever marten]

oh anything from 4.23 to 5.2 was unusable for me

[patent cobalt]

Anybody knows when @sharp parcel will be up?

[clever marten]

no clue

[junior robin]

there was a tiny problem for lossless claw moving from 4.23 to 5.3 because i think they changed how plugins worked but for the most part 5.3-1 has been treating me well

[foggy field]

Thank you for the response. I think I'm making progress. openclaw is a maze full of twisty passages, all similar yet subtly different once you go a bit below the surface. I am too easily confused and distracted.

Though it does seem to be remarkably robust sometimes and then suddenly extremely brittle. Given that it's been around well under a year, that is to be expected though.

[fair prawn]

It can be a little confusing at first but you get used to it over time if you tinker with it enough.

[nimble hill]

I would suggest not to waste tokens in reading emails - use n8n worflow, via integration you could connect to gmail and retrieve the data completely without LLM, add some filters about which one you want to infere and only those send to AI agents. This not only saves tokens but much faster

[nimble hill]

Use openclaw for research and activities which ate non deterministic. For deterministic flows you might want to use n8n. I have explained and example on earlier post to this one. Hence a combination of n8n + openclaw for best token economics

[cold barn]

Hey guys, I set up openclaw fully free using an Open Router api and a locally hosted gateway. It runs pretty good but doesn’t actually do much. The most it can do is open a browser or link and do a few other things. I’m wondering how I can level it up without spending money, possibly using skills or sub agents or something. Please @ me to reply

[vernal wave]

Has anybody set up a multi-agent workflow where your UI assistant sends your prompt to multiple downstream agents based on context?

[vernal wave]

I'm trying to set up where a specific prompt should tricker the UI assistant model to send to another agent, but its response is addressing an internal message, rather than the prompt I send it, but I'm not seeing in the logs the specific system call that's breaking. Any idea off the top of your head?

I've updated SOUL.md, AGENTS.md, and TOOLS.md, made sure both agents have access to the skill, as well

[hasty steeple]

How long til krill is alive again

[nimble hill]

If you are using multiple agents, use the A2A protocol as it uses sessions_send whichnis more optimized than file based sharing of context between agents. Ideally a centralized orchestrator which just does the assignments to agents and then the summary

[vernal wave]

A2A, is that referring to the agentToAgents in the openclaw.json?

[nimble hill]

Yes, somehow the docs only make fleeting mention of it https://docs.openclaw.ai/tools/acp-agents#sessions-send-and-a2a-delivery with no concrete example. But you can try this. the sessions.visibility is important . If your SOUL.md of agents - mention that use sessions_send for communicating with other agents. Experiment with it

  "tools": {
    "profile": "coding",
    "agentToAgent": {
      "enabled": true,
      "allow": ["main", "booking"]
    },
    "sessions": {
      "visibility": "all"
    }
  }

[paper elk]

Hi, docs.openclaw.ai website is currently written for humans. Is there a similar interface for agents?

[copper nova]

the dist installed has all the docs there

[nimble hill]

What is your intent?

[patent cobalt]

Are you suposed to change the AGENTS.md file of the agent or just the IDENTITY, SOUL and USER gets changed?

[tame plank]

Yes. All system prompt docs should be edited/customized

[patent cobalt]

my agents dont bother on updating their agents.md

[paper elk]

To get Codex to use as a skill to fix OpenClaw issues I face

[paper elk]

I’ll point to this thanks

[tame plank]

Try going directly to ChatGPT or whatever you use and write it up!

[patent cobalt]

Is there any public repos of openclaws that i can take a look about their agents.md?

[lost thicket]

hi guys, im new here. still learning how to set up openclaw, any tips please?

[nimble hill]

Create a RAG and upload the docs there. Update it once a while when you upgrade. This way, you have bettwr token economics

[nimble hill]

Read official docs

[lost thicket]

is it this one?

[nimble hill]

Suggest not to install in your daily driver pc. Use cheap vps and get comfortable with oc

[weary basin]

Welp, 5.3-1 was a bust. 4 hours of disastrous troubleshooting and I gave up and rolled back 4.23.

My agent just kept looping -- like 63 tool calls to answer a question that didn't require a tool call. He's been having looping issues since early April but nothing this bad.

It caused me to have to disable lossless claw a couple of weeks back. And tonight I disabled dreaming thinking that might be the cause. But that didn't fix it either. I don't know what this issue is but on 4.23 the looping is a mild inconvenience (except for the lossless claw issue, it just loops forever and locks everything up). But on 5.3-1 the looping locked him up just in regular conversation. I can't figure out what the problem is.

I think it might have been the update around 4.14 or so that started this. But idk it just keeps getting worse.

[sleek brook]

can you connect your open claw bot to view channels only on the discord?

[misty siren]

can some one help me?

i cant run ollama models ind open claw

[crude jolt]

localhost or cloud?

[spiral parcel]

Raspberry 🤓

[fair prawn]

What's the specific error you get in openclaw logs --follow when you try to use the ollama model?

[cold barn]

Thank you!

[shut onyx]

Hi everyone,

I have a general architecture question.

For long-term stability in OpenClaw, is it better to run:

1. one main agent only,
2. multiple independent top-level agents, each with its own channel/session/model settings,
3. one main agent with sub-agents,
4. or a hybrid setup?

I’m mainly asking from a best-practices perspective for routing reliability, memory/session separation, cron/background jobs, and model/fallback management.

Thanks.

[fair prawn]

I find it easy to manage with one main agent that spawns sub agents as they need. I use a MySQL backend that is basically a shared brain that all agents use to be able to coordinate and talk to each other as they work.

[shut onyx]

Thanks, that makes sense.

Do you find the sub-agent approach more stable than keeping multiple top-level agents permanently mapped to separate channels?

My main concern is whether permanent top-level agents cause routing/session complexity over time, or whether sub-agents introduce more orchestration overhead through the main agent.

[fair prawn]

My setup is working with 413 active regular users across multiple discord servers. I've not yet had any hiccups.

[shut onyx]

That’s impressive, thanks for sharing.

Just to clarify: are your sub-agents persistent named agents with their own roles/tools, or are they spawned dynamically per task and then discarded?

Also, do you still map different Discord channels to different capabilities, or does everything go through the main agent and it decides which sub-agent to spawn?

I’m trying to understand whether your architecture is closer to permanent specialized agents, or a single orchestrator with dynamic workers.

[fair prawn]

My sub agents are spawned dynamically, do their task, then are discarded.

Everything goes to the main agent and if it needs it, it'll spawn a sub agent to complete a task as needed.

Basically it's a master and slave system.

[shut onyx]

Got it, that helps a lot.

So your setup is basically a single orchestrator with temporary task workers, not permanent specialized agents mapped to channels.

That’s useful context. My use case is more like a personal workspace with persistent specialized areas, so I’ll compare both approaches carefully.

Thanks again for explaining.

[fair prawn]

Very welcome.

It's also worth noting that when given a prompt, 2 subagents spawn for me. The first one is a persona of a scholar, the other is the persona of a gremlin. They argue about their tasks, then a third one is spawn to handle taking their points of alignment, where they agree the most with each other, and make a prepared statement with that data.

[shut onyx]

That’s a really interesting pattern — more like internal deliberation/review workers than persistent service agents.

I might keep my persistent specialized areas for channel-based workflows, but add a similar dynamic review pattern inside the main agent for complex tasks.

[jaunty stag]

Openclaw 5.4 (5.x) fix if your bot isn't responding on Discord channels, whatsapp or telegram group chats:

openclaw config set messages.groupChat.visibleReplies automatic

[civic locust]

similar here

i have protocols that are can be reused as the main agent sees fit and there are also telegram topics and some have their own topic level system prompt

[sly musk]

Is the 5.4 stable ?😅

[torpid grotto]

Can't send message to telegram chat using openclaw message send, previously same same command worked, now it says Error: Unknown target "-100..." for Telegram. Hint: <chatId>
Tried without -100, still not working

[fair prawn]

try using the full -100... ID as the target. The docs say Telegram accepts chat IDs directly:

openclaw message send --channel telegram --target -1001234567890 --message "test"

If that still fails, it might be a parsing issue where the - prefix is being interpreted as a flag. In that case, try with -- separator:

openclaw message send --channel telegram -- -1001234567890 --message "test"

Or use the explicit --target flag format:

openclaw message send --channel telegram --target="-1001234567890" --message "test"

The "without -100" approach is wrong - Telegram supergroup IDs need the full -100 prefix. Stripping it gives a completely different (non-existent) chat ID.

If none of those work, it could be a regression from the recent update. They should check openclaw status to make sure the Telegram channel is healthy, and try openclaw message send --channel telegram --target -1001234567890 --message "test" --verbose to get more diagnostic output.

Of course change it to your actual ID. NOTE: This is not my ID, it's generated.

[torpid grotto]

Yesterday before updating to 5.3 it worked well same command string

[fair prawn]

Did you update to the latest release as of today?

openclaw update
openclaw plugins update --all
openclaw doctor --fix
openclaw gateway restart

[torpid grotto]

I just fixed two bugs manually in previous update, i don't want to repeat it again

It is always lottery with each update

[fair prawn]

The new update fixes a bug in how chat channels operate with message, with updates to telegram, discord, etc.

I'm not sure how else to help you at this point.

[torpid grotto]

I mean, ye, it will fix chats mb, but my agent will loose ability to process images and web search again

[fair prawn]

Mine hasn't lost that capability after the update.

[torpid grotto]

Ok, will try, lets hope

[torpid grotto]

This one didn't help btw

[jaunty stag]

I dunno if this is because of a legacy config or not. But if you don't have that value set explicitly in config, 5.x changed the default behaviour so it doesn't reply. It broke it for me, and a ton of other people apparently. It's a "safer" default but if you were relying on the group chats for comms it's not much consolation as it fails silently.

[jaunty stag]

hmm. I'm no expert I'm just trynna help anyone who had the same issues I did, having fixed my own. Do you have codex or claude available to help you debug?

[torpid grotto]

I don't chat in group, i am sending to group from cli, but the same issue i guess

[simple whale]

since i update for 2026.5.4 , my agent doesn't respond in dashboard and i have error like this google api error 503 or 404 , i try to do another openclaw update , and the update stop in the middle , i run openclaw doctor and he see nothing , i don't know where i start to debug this , i'm totally noob

[torpid grotto]

At least web_search and images not broken

And it is really smoother now

Yay, and group messages works now

[torpid grotto]

Even without it, but thanks

[jaunty stag]

yarsss ok how was yours fixed?

[stuck forge]

Hi everyone,
​I'm running into an issue where the OpenClaw Companion App (Android) is unable to connect to my self-hosted instance.
​Environment:
​Host: Ubuntu VPS
​Deployment: Docker (Version: 2026.4.21)
​LLM Provider: Anthropic Claude (via Gateway)
​The Issue:
The core agent is working perfectly. I have successfully set up the Telegram bot integration and webchat, and both are responding exactly as expected. However, when I try to link the Companion App to my VPS instance, the connection fails/times out.
​What I've checked:
​VPS firewall settings (standard ports are open).
​Docker container is running smoothly with no critical errors in the main logs.
​Heartbeats were disabled (heartbeat.interval 0), though the connection issue existed before this change.
​My Question:
Are there specific WebSocket configurations, exposed ports, or gateway.remote.url variables in the .env that need to be explicitly set for the Companion App to successfully route to a remote VPS?
​Would appreciate any pointers or troubleshooting steps! Thanks in advance.

[torpid grotto]

Just update to 5.4
But again, i am sending cli command to send message in group from script, i am not talking with agent in group

[jaunty stag]

oh... if you're in here looking for a fix my first assumption was that you were on the latest version. But I think even 5.3 might be similar. Anyway that's great news!

[copper nova]

https://tenor.com/view/heh-huh-what-gif-27102828

[brazen lagoon]

Can someone tell me how to decrease my input tokens

every msg back and foruth is 30k input token on avg

even though im barely texting it anything large

im hitting 2 million/input for like 40 minute usage

per day

[stuck forge]

Same issue but I fixed it with disabling the heartbeats 😀

[brazen lagoon]

Heartbeats dont take that much tho

my cache input is sooooo long like 30k tokens per msg

[torpid grotto]

Still having issue with that default thinking level not applied on new session, it always starts with "off", even if thinkingDefault is set to "low" (model supports "low" thinking level, and changing thinking level per session works)

[jaunty stag]

That’s pretty normal. First message is probably at least 20k. Trim down your soul.ms, agents.ms, tools.md and maybe work out a better way to set up memory so memory.md is more like an index.

[brazen lagoon]

how do fix cache input tho? Fixing these files is saving me AT MOST 1k tokens 😭

[torpid grotto]

You tried in new session?

[jaunty stag]

No, you'll be surprised. Your first message is probably already 23-24k context. You can just say "hi" to your bot and then do /context list and it will show you what is being used.

[sly yacht]

Is 5.3 stable coming from 4.26?

[jaunty stag]

And this never shrinks without fancy context management. It just grows. The fact that it's mostly cache after that is GOOD because basically the bot responds to the entire conversation history, every turn.

[jaunty stag]

5.4

[sly yacht]

Is 5.4 out? My bot cannot find it only up to 5.3

[midnight rock]

What's the last best update that successfully runs Chrome browser?
I'm currently using 2026.4.14

[pallid cave]

I got the 5.3 and it seems to have worked the bugs out, at least the ones that I was stuggling with.

[jaunty stag]

It's literally on the front release page. Slap your bot upside the head, please.

[sly yacht]

Now it forgot math 😭

[jaunty stag]

Stop using GPT1.0

[sly yacht]

Lol I with that was the problem. I gave it your reply and it "found it" lol 5.4 confirmed. Update is on disk. Say when and I'll restart the gateway — should be back up in under 10 seconds.

[jaunty stag]

Any problems please report back!

[white snow]

someone using gemini? i have a lot of problems last few days

[simple whale]

problems all day , server is unreachable

[torpid grotto]

I setup gateway bind to custom, everything works, dashboard, dm chat in telegram, but agent can't send message in groups anymore

Cli "openclaw message send" also results with 1006

[wary flint]

@torpid grotto Depending on your agent's access and model, it may be able to deep dive and assess the problem, then report its findings to you.

Here's one for y'all. My Discord setup is based around categories, forums and posts. I never receive exec allow/deny prompts in a thread/post channel, despite having set it to "channel" in openclaw.json. Every allow/deny prompt lands in my DM. I'd SO prefer otherwise but am unsure of what to tweak.

I can let it go but decided it to be worthy of lobbing into the discussion here. Tell me watcha know. Do your worst.

[tardy halo]

this has been solved with 5.4, I just confirmed it's working 🦞👍🏻

[mellow sundial]

Why does my bot on Discord output like this?

[tardy halo]

Yeah, I think that might not be working properly yet, it should do it with target 'channel' or 'both'.

I was having a lot of issues with approvals and allow lists a few weeks ago, and even yolo mode was broken. Now yolo mode seems to be working fine

[tardy halo]

what's the expected response style?

[wary flint]

@mellow sundial That looks to be due to line-by-line response output getting chopped up.

[tardy halo]

Ah, it's breaking lines, maybe streaming is on?

[mellow sundial]

To not be like by line

[umbral lily]

🙏 thanks for letting me know, I’ll upgrade tonight

[mellow sundial]

Yeah streaming is on

[wary flint]

Check your output block vs stream and max char length.

[tardy halo]

discord doesn't like streaming

[mellow sundial]

Is anyone else using streaming and it not look like this? If so could you share your config

[wary flint]

I have stream off but verbosity on. The "thinking" is enough stream action for my taste. That way it never appears to go dark.

[umbral lily]

I was having an issue yesterday where i would message my agent’s bot in discord and it would reply but checking the same session within the openclaw control Web Ui, it replied with a completely different response.

Sometimes as well replies are missing from discord but show within the Web-UI.

Anyone else having this issue? And how have you solved it if its not fixed with the update?

[torpid grotto]

Issue was that i set to custom, when i needed to set it to lan

[tardy halo]

try streaming 'block' and set draftChunk min and max characters, and breaking by paragraph

{
  channels: {
    discord: {
      streaming: "block",
      draftChunk: {
        minChars: 200,
        maxChars: 800,
        breakPreference: "paragraph",
      },
    },
  },
}

sample from the docs

[mellow sundial]

Thank you! Will test

[weary basin]

I went to 5.3-1 from 4.23 and it was a disaster. I had to roll back to 4.23. I spent about 4 hours applying a lot of the fixes here & troubleshooting with Claude. Eventually got my agent to respond in Discord but still couldn't figure out how to get my slash commands working.

He was also looping terribly. And not responding (counted 63 tool calls when he was trying to respond to a simple text prompt). The update around 4.14 started the looping problem where I had to disable heartbeats and lossless claw because they would just keep looping forever.

I might end up rolling back to whatever update I was on before that which I think was one from late March (3.23 maybe?). And I'm going to stay there until all of this gets cleared up (per that blog post from earlier today about all the issues). It's been a nightmare for the last 3 weeks with this unexplained tool call looping.

[sly yacht]

I went to 5.4 from 4.26 so far everything is good on 5.4 everything is working on my stack

[junior robin]

might just have to delete and reinstall extensions thats what I ended up doing

about to upgrade to 5.4 hopefully it goes well for me

[pallid cave]

seems like evey time I run this thing no mater how careful I am i eventully screw up the dash and get this non stoP: disconnected (1006): no reason ugh.

going in cicles with grok

[trail locust]

I'm having a discord issue

Version: 2026.4.26 → 2026.5.4
Issue: Discord plugin disabled after update, WebSocket gateway hangs on "awaiting gateway readiness"
Workaround needed: Manual export NODE_TLS_REJECT_UNAUTHORIZED=0 in env file
Symptom: Bot responds inconsistently, never fully connects to Discord

[balmy goblet]

What causes multiple response bubbles at one time in the webui?

Like in this example, it has the same response >2x, both flashing....
https://ibb.co/rRD8wvpR

[heavy pollen]

Just started to use openclaw, playing around with multiple agents in discord and one thing that surprised me is that a conversation with an agent in DM seems to stay isolated in the DM and when I try to carry that conversation over to a channel this agent is in it acts like it has no idea what I'm talking about 🙂

[lone verge]

noob question but why are all docs using json5 syntax for config examples? claw doesn't actually read json5 does it? does it?

[wary flint]

Yes. It does.

JSON is perfect for machine reading and machine-to-machine communication. Markdown is better as a machine-human bridge.

[nimble hill]

And json5 can also have comments - so you can make itnreadable

[jaunty stag]

would be nice if the config files were actually this format. The lack of commentability in the real config files is a bit of a hindrance.

[nimble hill]

You mean openclaw.json? You can actually comment it, but need to use only openclaw config commands since then it will bot rewrite the entire file, hence keeping your comments still there

[jaunty stag]

How2? the only way I found was to use dummy env vars.

[nimble hill]

You can directly edit the file and.put comments. Also keep a active backup and json comparison tools to put back your comments if it gets overwrotten.
It's a long pending request to use yaml files, but nobody is listeneing