users-helping-users

[spark valley]

You can run gpt oss 20b

Try another model if u are able

See if it is a model thing or setup

[white grove]

ok

[sullen goblet]

already use this but like I need to read more about this because even with cron jobs and stuff he gets lost and sometimes overload with agents or keeps doing pretty much the same thing and when i wake up I am like yeah all of this is pretty useless. Maybe it's not the meta idk. Need to figure out

but thanks

[barren kindle]

are there any guides to getting voice transcription and voice respounces setup and working I have been tinkering all night trying to get it sorted, right now mine can respound with audio on telegram but it is not reading my audio files i send back, though it thinks the transcribed response it sends me is the audio file i sent it

[spark valley]

Look you need to understand how the llm work it is just a brain either smart or dumb even if it is the smartest , it cant figure out something you didn't tell it or hint it so u need to make sure the soul.md and agent and ifentity are perfectly what you want it to be and you can even send to chatgpt so it can help u build solid think of it as someone who has amnesia if he wakes up and he is the smartest person but doesn't know who he is what his job and what should he do his smartness wont help him but if u guide him then another talk

[spark valley]

Yeah u should use gladia it has free vtt

Or find any free provider

[barren kindle]

I will look into that, right now i am using a couple docker images for the process locally

[spark valley]

Tell the ai to setup an auyopilot cron that occurs when it receives a vouce audio the script transcribe it using some provider and send the the text to the ai labeled as transcribed from audio file xxx

[sullen goblet]

Yeah exactly its mostly a me issue, not used to like autonomous agents other than when i use lets say like opencode so I just need to be a little less lazy and actually build a good plan instead.

[spark valley]

Agree 100% opencaude and vibe coding agents are way different they are already have a personality and a way of life think of it like that

[torpid fog]

Can anyone help, when setting up openclaw I go to open ai codex and it opens a browser in my local and says authentication failed missing authorization code

[spark valley]

You need to build system

[spark valley]

Thats the second person saysit

.

[torpid fog]

Is there any fix that you’re aware of?

Were you able to fix this bruv

[spark valley]

Well i dont use codex

But i might be able to help

[torpid fog]

I have Claude as well but I heard now you can’t use the pro plan you have to use api key

[spark valley]

Just try to get your auth key

Ask chatgpt how to extract your aity header for codex and try to add it to config

[mellow sundial]

I think it’s a bug I’m having it too

[spark valley]

Yea they fuckers

I dont use anthropic aswe lol

[torpid fog]

Where is config can I edit that in a command through openclaw or is it inside openclaw folder somewhere

[spark valley]

Find the auth header first

Then worry about config

I will show u

But because i don't use codex i don't actually know how it uses the params in config but most it will use baseurl of open ai and the auth header as api key

[naive ocean]

Anyone using slack noticing slowdowns in agent responses since 4.10 ?

[candid urchin]

23:30:45+05:30 [tools] read failed: EISDIR: illegal operation on a directory, read raw_params={"path":"C:\Users\cccccc\.openclaw\workspace"}

why did i get this

[torpid fog]

Oh wow I think OpenAI is doing the same thing as anthropic with not allowing subscription access instead of billing per request on api key

@mellow sundial

[mellow sundial]

They’ve openly said OpenClaw is fine I think it’s a bug

It’s not them blocking it

[torpid fog]

Yeah you’re right

[mellow sundial]

Just a bug with the latest version

[torpid fog]

It’s a bug on their new version

[wild finch]

Yup, we tried it but “low” keeps being injected somewhere

[kind yarrow]

hey everyone, has anyone here deployed OpenClaw using Docker?

[inland knot]

Anyone here running GPT 5.4 in OpenClaw? I want feedback on it, mine doesnt follow .md files strictly

[spark valley]

U need to edit the soul.md

[spark valley]

Yeah i know here it is got ui web to agent then tools give it full

[inland knot]

the soul.md should be fine, it was tailored by Krill for my use case, GPT simply doesnt respect the restriction in there and the personality traits

[spark valley]

I geuss so ive been using it with hermes it seems fine

[inland knot]

i heard about hermes, how is that thing feeling compared to openclaw?

heard a lot of hype around it

[sullen goblet]

Trying it right now, I think they are for different usage, hermes seems to be for a single agent learning and improving so like one expert and openclaw would be more like a tool to have to have a team of good but not perfect agents

so maybe depends on the need

[inland knot]

i think i found the problem with my GPT 5.4 agent, the thinking was set to minimal, and reasoning was off

maybe thats why it didnt follow the .md files

[ivory haven]

#1459642797895319552 Hi fellow user, Openclaw user here, loving it. recently facing the issue of "Authentication failed Missing authorization code." while trying to connect to codex. seems to be a openclaw issue? any idea?

[inland knot]

nope, after you copy the auth link, you completed the auth, and sent you to a 404 page, copy that URL and paste it into Terminal/CMD

and you should be good

[flint flame]

I should use vllm or you recommend different tool as ollama?

[ivory haven]

PROBLEM:- "Authentication failed Missing authorization code" while using oauth in codex
SOLUTION:- Removing "+model.request+api.responses.write" from the URI provided works.
"OpenAI authentication completed. You can close this window."

First time using Discord so not sure how I can better say this out

Thanks Krill and awknode - https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/issues/64687

[ivory haven]

https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/issues/64687

https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/issues/64687

[dusky hull]

For the first time, I set up OpenClaw using Railway. I wanted to have a safe environment away from my computer. However, I'm not sure how to use the interface to provide a file so that I can have it run an analysis or to access an output file. How do I do this?

[spark valley]

Well ollama is woking good with but it is not the best for minimal hardwatlre as it takes a lot u can lookup how to integrate llama.cpp or lmstudio

[torpid fog]

Looks like that issues been fixed and merged

[torpid fog]

So it’s fixed and merged right, so I can take latest version?

[ivory haven]

found a workaround.. not sure if its fixed inthe latest version. they would be doing it soon I guess. just remove the invalid text from the url. see the github link. that works.

[torpid fog]

Ok I’ll try that later when I get home thanks

[digital tiger]

I'm having a problem using VertexAI: API keys are not supported by this API. Expected OAuth2 access token or other authentication credentials that assert a principal. Can someone help me please?

[mighty rampart]

I'm running v2026.4.10 . I've got a metrics service (InfluxDB) running on the same host that I want my agent to access. Claude is saying web_fetch to an internal container hostname (influxdb:8086) is blocked by the SSRF guard. (these are podman containers on a bridge network.) It tried a couple of things but says tools.web.fetch.ssrfPolicy only accepts allowRfc2544BenchmarkRange in the config validator — hostnameAllowlist and dangerouslyAllowPrivateNetwork are in the source code but rejected with "Unrecognized key" . Does anyone have a similar use case and know what's wrong?

[flint flame]

I use now vllm serve to deploy my models. Do you think is a good choice or is better lmstudio

[spark valley]

Add it as custom provider

[spark valley]

Yea it is good

[weary wharf]

Does anyone know of a non-AI tool that can generate Markdown files at a similar quality level to tools like Claude Code? I’ve tried several options, including MarkItDown, but the output quality is nowhere near what I get when generating Markdown with Claude.

[copper nova]

we fixed this

there's a work around for now

[spark valley]

Why the hassle man use free ai providers

[royal matrix]

I’ve been using Claude to review my MD files. Do you recommend getting Krill to review them? There’s a lot haha

[royal matrix]

Did you set this up in Telegram using /think command? I wonder if there’s a way to set it up in the openclaw system so certain agents use different thinking levels?

[inland knot]

I asked my agent to do it in the config

[inland knot]

Absolutely

Krill is very good

[fast ruin]

Bug: Sparky not receiving messages in Slack group DMs (multi-party DMs)

• Bot is invited to a group DM but does not receive/respond to messages
• Works fine in 1:1 DMs
• Likely missing mpim:read / mpim:history scopes or group DM channel type not handled by the Slack plugin

[worn echo]

Hey guys, my agents fail to communicate with each other.
The main agent uses session_send but they never receive his messages.
Anyone already encountered this?

[spark valley]

Acp

[worn echo]

What should be done please?

[spark valley]

Enable acp tell ur agent to enable agent communications protocol

[worn echo]

Ty

[spark valley]

Anytime

[serene hinge]

If anyone is in NYC area, I'm hosting an openclaw event where one of the speakers (me) will help ppl to set up their instances on vps

Feel free to join.. it's free. Well have food

https://luma.com/foriorb8

[copper nova]

You...say...free...food?...

[royal matrix]

Would you guys recommend dumping my MD files into help for Krill feedback? I’ve used Claude to get feedback but krill would have the system knowledge.

[west plinth]

i dont actually understand how to download openclaw, im looking at the install overview and not understnading it atm. likely because i dont understand installer scripts and such

[nimble hill]

The docs are pretty clear, it is a single line command. I geenrally don't recommend installing on your personal daily driver machine. Get a VPS or use VM

[west plinth]

i was trying to put it into cmd, but i dont understand much about it yet,
guess ill go learn about those first then. i understand a little, but im not well versed in tech and coding type of stuff

[nimble hill]

Type powershell and use it there. But as I said, don't install it'll your machine since it will have access to everything and it you are not sure what you are doing, rent a vps and use it there. There are also offerings in cloud with 1 click setup. Use that and learn

[west plinth]

im thinking it be wise of me to learn about VMs now rather then later with this duscission. most experience ive had in tech is building my own PC. It makes sense that an ai that can do things would gain access to everything

i do know a little about virtual machines, but in that sense, more a very breif idea on what they are

[nimble hill]

Good decision - depending upon your pc specs- learn proxmox, xcp, lxd - all these are hypervisors that lets you run VMs.
If you are thinking about cloud - Oracle cloud gives a free forever 4 cpu, 24gb ram, 200gb hdd

[west plinth]

tah, ill look into it. 32gb ram, but overall it was built as a mid range

pretty sure its 32

[nimble hill]

Good enough - but all these hypervosor I mentioned are for Linux

[cedar kayak]

You an Aussie ?

[west plinth]

yeah mate

[cedar kayak]

Nice 👍

[west plinth]

the proxmox, xcp, lxd ?

[nimble hill]

Yes, the first 2 essentially are the OS.
On windows you might try virtual box i think. But I don't recommend it. You could host a windows VM within the proxmox for regular stuff (not for gaming though)

[west plinth]

so, linex is an OS like windows then

[west plinth]

well in a way im after learning in regards to a VM, so i wouldnt be to fussed about its abilties.

[weak obsidian]

I'm brand new; so is openclaw a tool to connect to an existing paid AI subscription? Is there any sort of local AI I can run on average hardware or the entire economy is token rental based?

[frank agate]

I wonder if I can use the imagegenprovider locally yet w/ the latest update...

openclaw doctor is hella inaccurate

[azure hull]

Did you ever get a solution to this?

[keen island]

No

[azure hull]

I'm in the same boat after updating

[azure hull]

I rolled back to 2026.4.9 and it's working fine

[keen island]

I'll have some time tomorrow and I'll try. Thanks!

[azure hull]

Lemme know either way, I'll keep debugging on my end too.

[keen island]

Ok. I will.

[keen fulcrum]

Is anyone else having issues using their "extra usage" allowance on anthropic token and getting timeout errors?

[dense sleet]

⚠️ ✉️ Message: 5732.....549 failed
Same error — "pairing required". The tool still can't connect to the gateway for outbound messages. WhatsApp receives messages fine (we're talking right now), but the message tool can't send proactively. This appears to be a limitation or bug with the current setup. Earlier you mentioned seeing "Message 573....4549 failed" on your end when I tried — that suggests the message attempt did reach WhatsApp but couldn't deliver to that number. Possible causes: 1. Samantha's number doesn't have WhatsApp 2. Privacy settings on her account 3. The number format issue You could try sending a message to her yourself from your WhatsApp to verify the number works, and then we'd know if it's a delivery issue vs a tool issue.
^ answer from the model

[frank agate]

When the F will this junk be fixed.... Apr 12 02:43:25 openclaw1 node[19953]: 2026-04-12T02:43:25.546+00:00 [security] blocked URL fetch (url-fetch) target=http://localhost:8082/v1/images/generations reason=Blocked hostname or private/internal/special-use IP address Apr 12 02:43:25 openclaw1 node[19953]: 2026-04-12T02:43:25.547+00:00 [tools] image_generate failed: Blocked hostname or private/internal/special-use IP address raw_params={"prompt":"a realistic red apple on a white background"}

[unique mountain]

how do i use openclaw

what's node.js

[clear tide]

https://nodejs.org/en

[nimble hill]

This is not an error - it needs the pairing. go to gateway and do openclaw devices list you would see a entry under pairing. use and device id and enter in oppenclaw devices approve <deviceid>

[dense sleet]

I already did! But now for some reason the model can't send messages outside the current session (all his attempts redirect to my number, our session)

[weary wharf]

Not feasible with my workflow unfortunately

[nimble hill]

Just delete the session ad start again

[dense sleet]

Already did and restarted the gateway, same issue

[nimble hill]

Okay then don't know. If I get stuck like this, i nuke my setup and just restart. Since I am on docker based, it super easy. I also do not use channels except matrix and mostly gateway dashboard

[dense sleet]

The model itself found the way haha, using the cli instead of the plugin itself

[misty trout]

Browser is broken on the new release??

GatewatClientRequestError: Error: Chrome CDP websocket for profile "openclaw" is not reachable after start.

[lunar mist]

Hi, I’m a new user of OpenClaw and have successfully set up my Telegram bot integration.
I recently created some custom skills, and they appear correctly when I run the command openclaw skills list. I’m also able to execute the skill directly using ./run.py, and it works as expected.
However, when I try to call the same skill through the chat interface, I don’t receive any output.
Anyone know what might be causing this issue?

[hard turret]

Hey,
Is it possible to add multiple OAuth OpenAI accounts? Just like Hermes, so when you burned all your credits, it goes to the other account?

[inner lion]

Has anyone using ChatGPT Codex OAuth enabled the new feature where it can load your OpenClaw dreaming memory with the past year’s chat history with ChatGPT (pre-OpenClaw)? That sounds really useful.

[meager elbow]

Hello Guys, I am looking for a proper setup and curious about if you can share some best practices. I used my Claude sub which was fairly good but I got a letter that it is over, so switched to OpenRouter with Minimax 2.7 and Gemini Flash lite for task check (my little React dashboard for tasks) and email check (agent has its own). And I can not get it right. Somehow It can not manage with these scripts. Also the initial recommendation of my bot was to set Deepseek R1 for the mundane checks that pumped up a 2 dollar per day for heartbeat which is way too much. MY other problem it keeps dying silently after each tool execution. So If anyone can share some OpenRouter setup best practices or configs would be great. Thanks in advance.

[mighty rampart]

It looks like it’s just an api call, try using curl instead of web_fetch. Or have the agent write a little python script to do it. Web_fetch is intentionally blocked like that though issue 39604 is open for some opt-out config.

[frank agate]

Yep

[worn crypt]

Hey,
I'm facing an issue with downloading OpenClaw on my Linux OS. I'm sharing error If any one have solution, please tell me:

abdullahiqbal@abdullahiqbal-01:~$ curl -fsSL https://openclaw.ai/install.sh | bash

🦞 OpenClaw Installer
One CLI to rule them all, and one more restart because you changed the port.

✓ Detected: linux

Install plan
OS: linux
Install method: npm
Requested version: latest

[1/3] Preparing environment
✓ Node.js v24.14.1 found
· Active Node.js: v24.14.1 (/home/abdullahiqbal/.nvm/versions/node/v24.14.1/bin/node)
· Active npm: 11.11.0 (/home/abdullahiqbal/.nvm/versions/node/v24.14.1/bin/npm)

[2/3] Installing OpenClaw
✓ Git already installed
· Installing OpenClaw v2026.4.11
! npm install failed for openclaw@latest
Command: env SHARP_IGNORE_GLOBAL_LIBVIPS=1 npm --loglevel error --silent --no-fund --no-audit install -g openclaw@latest
Installer log: /tmp/tmp.tkk4baYnqm
! npm install failed; showing last log lines
! npm install failed; retrying

[mighty rampart]

Look at the installer log file it mentions. Is there anything interesting in it?

[spark valley]

You dont need to be magical it isnan eash process just instal gui tools like vmware or virtual box download ubuntu or whatever linux distro run it up paste the one liner command follow the steps and you are goid to go no need for all of these fuss , but i recommend after setting stuff up try to get and understanding of linux how it operat and terminal commnads so later youll be flexible fixing errors , but for now if u want to get that openclaw running that is the fastest way .

[spark valley]

Depending on your hardware but mostly u got like a 16gb vram which is decent to run some quite good models with decent kv cache, so i recommend using cloud providers if u already using sub in some

[spark valley]

Instal npm independently

[marsh bolt]

I'm getting this too on 4.11

[worn crypt]

After a Long Effort and Hard Core debugging I finnaly Installed OpenClaw on my Linux Os.
Thank u Soo much @mighty rampart @spark valley For Helping me.

[pastel shoal]

Hello

I just installed openclaw on fedora, and launched the openclaw control in browser, but it doesn't respond. also i see this kind of message in the logs:

 error Embedded agent failed before reply: Third-party apps now draw from your extra usage, not your plan limits. We've added a $20 credit to get you started. Claim it at claude.ai/settings/usage and keep going.

it looked like pairing problem at first but it still doesn't work

[mighty rampart]

Are you trying to use Claude / Anthropic subscription? Go to https://claude.ai/settings/usage and see what you have. (Like it says, you have to claim the credit.)

[pastel shoal]

i'm using the claude pro subscription. I went to the website too but there's nothing like 'claim the credit' button

[marsh bolt]

Adding this to browser config fixed it. Not sure how safe this is? "dangerouslyAllowPrivateNetwork": true

GLM 5.1 ftw

[mighty rampart]

look for an email from them. I got it on April 4th. It says "We’re offering you a one-time credit for extra usage to your account, equal to your monthly subscription price." -- you can't use your Claude subscription for OpenClaw, only the 'extra usage'.

[pastel shoal]

I don't get it. Do you mean that I can't use openclaw with Claude Pro subscription?

Also there's nothing related to extra usage credit in my mails

[mighty rampart]

Correct. As of April 4th Anthropic blocked third-party harnesses from using the fixed-cost subscription usage. That is only for Anthropic's own tools (Claude, Claude Code, Cowork). To use external tools with Anthropic models it's pay as you go with 'extra usage' or get an API key.

[pastel shoal]

I see. Another $20 for an API key after i subscribed to claude....?

[mighty rampart]

You can put $20 on file and see how long it lasts yes. (Though you should also have that credit to claim. It doesn't show on https://claude.ai/settings/usage for you?) You'll probably want to dial down the heartbeats to avoid chewing up usage, otherwise every agent wakes up every 30 minutes and it's a lot.

You can also try OpenRouter or other API providers.

[pastel shoal]

I will have to see where can I use OpenClaw for. For now I was just curious what it is

[azure hull]

I got it working. The problem I had was that when I switched to Ollama last week I just manually created the entries in ~/.openclaw/openclaw.json and I called the provider "ollama-cloud". I changed all references to "ollama" throughout the config, then I edited ~/.openclaw/agents/main/agent/auth-profiles.json to:

{
"version": 1,
"profiles": {
"ollama:default": {
"type": "api_key",
"provider": "ollama",
"key": "ollama-local"
}
}
}

Then I ran "openclaw update" and everything worked.

obv ymmv but in case it helps...

[spark valley]

Congrats

[gritty kettle]

im installing openclaw, when i click the openclaw-gateway it does stuff that i dont understand and now its stuck at "[plugins] embedded acpx runtime backend ready"

😭

[mighty rampart]

I tried switching to mistral-small:24b and wow that did not go well. I'm back on qwen3:14b which can do tool calls fairly reliably. Using these models is a LOT more work than just handing some text to a frontier model. Claude Sonnet will figure out what you meant and just do that. These less capable models need a lot of guidance and specific instructions. YMMV

[mighty rampart]

well 'backend ready' sounds like a good thing to me! where are you installing it and how? where do you 'click' the openclaw-gateway ?

[gritty kettle]

in the user's file in C disk

im new to all this and have absolutely no clue about anything 🙏

[gritty kettle]

i installed it through powershell using the cmd thingy

[mighty rampart]

Is this your computer that you use daily?

[gritty kettle]

yeah

[feral rune]

Today I noticed that all the discrod bots are offline, but the server is working fine, and other channels are accessible without any issues.

I don't know why

Is there something update?

I just see a log "error [tools] message failed: Channel is unavailable: discord raw_params={"action":"send","channel":"discord","target":"14895274"

[candid geyser]

Is anyone else having auto update kill their claw bc of plugin version mismatch

[mighty rampart]

Installing it directly on your daily use computer is not recommended. It will have access to all of your stuff. It needs to be on a separate machine or in a container.

[gritty kettle]

dang, so what do i do now

now its stuck at "[bonjour] restarting advertiser (service stuck in unannounced for 10768ms " 😭

[mighty rampart]

Using one of the hosted options is an option to get started with it, then you can decide if you want to learn more about running it yourself. In a quick search I found Railway and Hostinger. (I haven't used them.)

[gritty kettle]

i dont think my openclaw is even usable right now. its just stuck at "[bonjour] restarting advertiser (service stuck in unannounced for 10768ms "

[mighty rampart]

If you go over to #1459642797895319552 there is a bot (Krill) that may help if you paste in what you've done so far and what's happening. Have you read the docs for Windows? https://docs.openclaw.ai/platforms/windows It advises using WSL2, not native Windows.

[gritty kettle]

now theres no "gateway" application for me to click after i close the window

how the heck do i uninstall this thing

[feral rune]

How can I disable the autoupdate of plugins

[candid urchin]

It seems I am hitting a roadblock with the sessions_spawn tool regarding persistent/threaded sessions (thread: true).

this is a reply from my openclaw, why does it say that?

[marsh bolt]

Gemma4:26b is the best I’ve tried. Better than Qwen3.5:35b which was previous best.

[clear rune]

Hi guys am new to using OpenClaw can anyone suggest a tutorial for getting started with Openclaw and installation on windows 11

[silent aurora]

Personally I wouldn't install directly on Windows 11 on your system - if you don't have separate dedicated hardware for your OpenClaw I would recommend to install VM Workstation and then dedicated VM for OpenClaw - trust me better solution for the begining espcially when you will decide revert to level 0 with your installation 🙂 - ask me how I know 😄

[clear rune]

😅 I was about to make the mistake of installing directly on my computer, is there a solid tutorial you can recommend am kind of new all of this, and by the way what was your bad experience installing directly 😅

[silent aurora]

Yeah, going through all the instructions and documentation was a pain and pretty overwhelming for me—I know the struggle. I found a really good video that gave me a solid foundation, covering all the basic information and an overview of the installation process, which helped me better understand the core aspects. It was definitely a good starting point for me. -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st534T7-mdE&lc=Ugw_4gtXmubIga7fnUF4AaABAg.AVA6nocqfk5AVFeVZnDBR1

That guy is using hostinger but I would skip that as that will add extra cost for entire build - at least it was super importnat to me to minimize cost - I would start with the local installation on VM Ware - VM Workstation is curently free for personal usage so you can downlaod that for free

[clear rune]

Thanks brother let me go through the tutorial incase I get problems I will DM you

[clear rune]

well noted I will try this as well

[restive gull]

using agent we create multiple agents but how to create subagents?

[mighty rampart]

not sure exactly what you mean. subagents are spawned by the agent as needed then they go away. like when you say "summarize these ten articles" it can do that in parallel with subagents. are you asking how to define them, or thinking you need to 'create' them yourself like you do with the agents?

[candid urchin]

It seems I am hitting a roadblock with the sessions_spawn tool regarding persistent/threaded sessions (thread: true).

this is a reply from my openclaw, why does it say that?

[queen oak]

Hello, ive been using openclaw for couple of days straight, im trying to optimize it for usage as said online to make subagents and all of that. using the sonnet as an orchestrator of my chatgpt codex and im trying to build apps for my friends in need. But whenever i make it starts to say ohh i switched to deepseek ohh this and that doesn't work (1 second before he said is fully working). How to make him be perfectly useful and just make him built what i told him to? I have almost no technical knowledge. I am here to plug it all in and tell him to build app and make creative decisions. Why can't i enjoy the tool like everybody? What should i do?

[restive gull]

yes I am asking how to define them?

previously i was checking docs how to create them

[mellow sundial]

How do I set what model the active memory plugin runs on? Setting config.memory is causing an invalid config key error

[restive gull]

how agent spawned subagents?

[marsh bolt]

Anyone else having trouble with QMD index on new agents that use workspace/<agent> path (instead of the old workspace-<agent> path)

[sweet blaze]

hello bros! anyone having trouble with SSRF policy blocking hostname navigation after the latest update?

can't navigate via browser tool

[marsh bolt]

Yes see above for fix

[silent aurora]

What’s your best list or set of rules for fallback models? I’m looking for something cost-effective, and I’m not considering local models since they fail 99% of the time, making them completely unreliable.
My current one
gemini-2.5-flash-lite - Default
openai/gpt-5.4-nano
deepseek/deepseek-reasoner
xai/grok-4-1-fast

[marsh bolt]

Adding this to browser config fixed it. Not sure how safe this is? "dangerouslyAllowPrivateNetwork": true

[sweet blaze]

lol ok trying rn thanks fren

[sweet blaze]

ive tried both at root level and profile level but the key doesnt get recognized, any idea?

[mighty rampart]

in the simplest case, the agent constructs a prompt and spawns a subagent with it. they don't have to be pre-defined. It's probably already happening if you look closely at your sessions, it's built in. You write in AGENTS.md what you want your agent to do, and it does that. (hopefully.) You can get more complex and go ahead and define more agents and tell your agent to spawn those as subagents with agentId. Read https://docs.openclaw.ai/tools/subagents and then put .md on the end and have your favorite agent read it and help you with the configuration. Note: getting this to work reliably takes a very capable model. The less capable ones get confused and forget they spawned anything and stop.

[marsh bolt]

Try asking your agent to add it to the browser config

[mighty rampart]

Yes. What are you fetching locally? For me it was actually API calls so I had the agent write a little script to run and use exec instead. curl could also work if it's available. I do have other jobs where it's fetching who knows what from the internet so I do not want to turn off the SSRF policy.

[sweet blaze]

@marsh bolt yep thats what I did initially and it replied "no success at both levels". Can you share a sample of your browser config please?
@mighty rampart just trying to scrape few posts from x , worked fine before the latest update

[marsh bolt]

oh sorry forgot an important bit "browser": {
"enabled": true,
"defaultProfile": "openclaw",
"ssrfPolicy": {
"allowedHostnames": [
".ca",
".com",
".net",
".org"
],
"dangerouslyAllowPrivateNetwork": true
}
},

[mighty rampart]

oh that's different. it started blocking localhost recently. I'm not having trouble with fetching pages from the internet. (I don't think that dangerouslyAllow works for web_fetch. that is a different tool from browser.)

[marsh bolt]

sorry - missed some stuff: "browser": {
"enabled": true,
"defaultProfile": "openclaw",
"ssrfPolicy": {
"allowedHostnames": [
".ca",
".com",
".net",
".org"
],
"dangerouslyAllowPrivateNetwork": true
}
},

Credit to GLM 5.1 for the fix. Just trying it out on a new agent. Unfortunately doesn't seem like QMD works with the new workspace folder structure

[honest forge]

heyy im a student who is building a hardware project for people who code with voice (claude code, cursor, through wisprflow etc..), im not selling anything, just trying to learn what sucks about the current setup, if anyone would be ready do a quick 10 min call or chat on discord il be greatful!

[zenith quartz]

hey guys, any one of you using openclaw via openai pro subscription? I need some info pls ❤️

[signal magnet]

Hi all - my setup is a Mac Mini with Signal as my message provider. It works "ok" to some extent, but I am trying to have a multiagent setup using different groupchats. Im not sure it is the best approach. But I need to be able for people to join and leave the groups at different intervals. Im still the only user who can provide commmands for the bot. Anyone got good experience how to do that. The manuel mostly referes to discord, telegram, Whatsapp.

I use to use ChatGPT 5.4 OAuth but out of tokens, so my fallback right now is Gemma 4 (e4b)

https://docs.openclaw.ai/concepts/multi-agent

[signal magnet]

I do

[frigid plank]

what do i do when my commands in the dashboard are getting behind, and they are backed up like 10 commands deep (but they are invisible)? i notice the "pause" button is also gone /disabled...

[midnight adder]

How is 4.11 running on windows

[bitter pilot]

Hi, newbie user having a small install issue. Is there a mandatory minimum for the context window? This is the error I keep getting : Model context window too small (4096 tokens). Minimum is 16000. I've set the context window and the max in the config to 4096 (to match my model) . Keep getting the error though. Starting to wonder if there is a hard coded limit 0f 16000, or I jsut havn't set it right.

Also, I noticed there might be a bot in Support/ Q&A chat room. It seems to be in dumb/mute mode though, or does it wake when you speak in the channel?

[zenith quartz]

does the subscription via openclaw have limits? on the other models

im a bit confused it used to be different - is the oauth just using the codex limits? because the subscription itself has "unlimited"access to text models

also it does not allow access to an embedding model ?

Despite the difference in usage limits, both Pro tiers give access to the same model suite: the exclusive GPT-5.4 Pro model, unlimited use of GPT-5.4 Instant and GPT-5.4 Thinking, and all other features available on the $200 plan. The differentiation between the two tiers is usage volume, not capability. As a launch promotion, subscribers to the new $100 plan will receive ten times the Codex usage of Plus through 31 May 2026; after that date, the standard five times limit applies. OpenAI also announced a rebalancing of the Plus plan’s Codex allocation alongside the new tier, shifting Plus towards steadier day-to-day usage rather than allowing the longer burst sessions that the $100 plan is intended to serve.

like look what it says unlimited use of gpt 5.4 instant

does this work on openclaw or just in the openai interface?

[bitter pilot]

Please disreguard my earlier post. I've found the info I needed. Not sure I can fix it, but I understand now.

[sturdy tundra]

Does anyone know how to fix a browser related issue? keep getting a CDP error even though the browser process is running and i can curl it just fine. GatewayClientRequestError: Error: Chrome CDP websocket for profile "openclaw" is not reachable after start.

[signal magnet]

Im not sure about the Quota limits, I use the 20$ subscription model, and it works pretty well. To many Cron jobs will drain you though. I use a local LLM for smaller Cron jobs (Gemma 4). You need to use an API key for memory. But it does not cost much.

[zenith quartz]

im on the $100 pro subscription

well i was hoping i could use the smaller openai models

but i guess it is what it is

[mighty rampart]

Thank you! gemma4:26b is working great so far. It's not doing anything too difficult, Iris does web searches to keep up to date on various topics, and Nike yells at me about my Fitbit stats.

[glad flare]

Hey team — I'm building automated trading tools on my OpenClaw VPS and need api.llama.fi (DefiLlama's free API) added to the network allowlist. Currently getting host_not_allowed when trying to query protocol TVL/volume data. No auth required on their end — it's completely free. Would be great for trading/DeFi use cases. Is this something that can be whitelisted?

[prisma inlet]

Excuse me guys but how can we enable fast mode in gpt 5.4 inside openclaw using gpt 5.4 codex subscription

[mighty rampart]

is there a specific error? I'm not sure what tool it's trying to use...

[hollow roost]

turn off the think

with /think

[prisma inlet]

I thought there was a fastmode while retaining thinking like inside codex

Uses double tokens but is 50% faster

[hollow roost]

gpt 5.4 mini ig

its faster

has thinkin

a bit less reliable than 5.4

but capable enough

[glad flare]

@mighty rampart Yes — I'm running a Python script on my OpenClaw VPS using curl to query https://api.llama.fi/protocols (DefiLlama's free REST API, no auth needed). Getting this response: HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden | x-deny-reason: host_not_allowed. The domain api.llama.fi isn't in the VPS egress allowlist. No API key required on DefiLlama's side — it's fully open. Looking to use it to track Aster DEX and Hyperliquid protocol TVL/volume for automated trading decisions.

[hollow roost]

aah idk abt tht

ig

[restive rain]

Hey guys, asked the bot to update to the new version and now Openclaw just went gone. It retrieves Openclaw: command not found

[mighty rampart]

So… that sounds like a host-level firewall, not something OpenClaw is doing?

[mighty rampart]

what version were you on before, what operating system, how did you install it originally?

[restive rain]

Was on 2026.4.10. Just running Ubuntu Server 24.04. I did installed it through ollama

And when I run ollama launch Openclaw it says it is not installed

[haughty hedge]

Cant update further than .09

Update Result: ERROR
Root: /home/Xxxx/.nvm/versions/node/v24.14.1/lib/node_modules/openclaw
Reason: global update
After: 2026.4.11
Total time: 1216.34s

Anyone else?

[mighty rampart]

Ask Krill in the #1459642797895319552 channel or paste it into gemini.google.com -- npm is unhappy for some reason. (tell Gemini "ask me ONE question at a time" and it will walk you through what to try.)

[haughty hedge]

Thank you.

[marsh ore]

Hi guys, is there a way for me to kill subagent sessions automatically after an condition is met? I can delete the sessions in the web interface but I would like my agent to log all events in a memory file and then kill the subagent session. Is that possible? I have read the docs and I saw this tool: "subagents List, steer, or kill spawned sub-agents for this session" exists but I was wondering if any of you have a clean solution, thanks!

[mighty rampart]

A subagent should finish its work and return its result to the parent. What is happening that they stay around?

[mighty rampart]

reads more on https://docs.openclaw.ai/tools/subagents -- maybe they are thread bound and that is why they stay in the list?

[marsh ore]

Yes I noticed another agent of mine doesn't have this problem. It's the main agent that spins up a new "Subagent:telegram:g-agent...etcetc" session.

I might have to switch to Discord for thread bound sessions

rn I use Telegram

[mighty rampart]

hmmm... maybe ask that agent how it is spawning subagents, and update its instructions to do it the way you want.

[marsh ore]

Alright I will try that 👍

[hot pewter]

could i have help? the openclaw configure and stuff like that won't let me use arrow keys to navigate

[mighty rampart]

try pressing enter and see if it complains you didn't pick anything, then it might let you navigate

[gray mason]

anyone know why gpt-5.4 is returning its reasoning text along with its response text in Discord

[wary flint]

type /reasoning and then set it to "off" + openclaw.json it's likely set to "on" by default, user case depending.

[dense sleet]

Yeah never do that mate

[dense sleet]

Let me guess, Windows?

[wary flint]

Has anybody gotten their setup to play the role of "jukebox" with a streaming music service?

[hot pewter]

yup, waiting on enough money to buy a new rig for linux but rn i'm not gonna dual boot

[mellow lantern]

"How to add Claw bot to my own server for mobile use?"

[heady zinc]

good shit odin, keep it clean

[heady zinc]

ask claw how to setup tailscale to access webdashboard from mobile

[nimble hill]

Actually you do not need tailscale

[stark cliff]

Did you get this fixed? I start getting the same error after upgrade to 4.11

[sturdy tundra]

Nope still looking for an answer

[nimble hill]

You do not require CDP at all. You can just use browser - try openclaw browser start

[sturdy tundra]

Im aware of that. The cdp is the error it gives me.

[restive rain]

So what is the point of the bot? Asking to run a simple command such as Openclaw update and goes wrong?

[nimble hill]

Ask the agent to install chromium and then invoke that command again. You have openclaw installed directly on machinr?

[candid wraith]

i was on 2026.03.24 and just updated to the 2026.04.11, and the gateway seems noticeably slower now. Is anyone else experiencing this?

[sturdy tundra]

Thats not the issue, i tried it with Chrome and brave. When i connect using vnc and use openbox it launches fine, then the browser closes again and it gives that cdp error

[nimble hill]

it is actually improved. just give it time to settle down based on your PC specs

[nimble hill]

Well, the CDP should not even be invoked. Explain again - you have gateway running on remote server (is it windown / linus)? You connect via VNC - go to openclaw instance and issue openclaw browser start ?

[sturdy tundra]

Openclaw connects to the browser through cpd so why shouldnt it be trying that

[stark cliff]

I thought CDP is now the default interface.

I also got the same CDP timeout error executing browser start. So as some other people reporting similar issue in help channel. I think it's a real bug in 4.11

I am running on Ubuntu btw

[nimble hill]

yes it is, just that if the chromium is within the same machine where openclaw is running, it will invoke it first then connect to it. The reason it gives CDP error because it never got the handle for the browser, or lost it.

Ubuntu btw
ubuntu with desktop or headless? and it has chromium latest version installed - there is difference between chrome and chromium - openclaw has issues with chrome sometimes, but with chromium, it runs fine. dunno why the diff

@sturdy tundra I run OC as a getway in docker container on ubuntu - and a docker container (bundled with chromium) in a remote windows PC as a node. Gateway is able to directly call the node and launch the browser with openclaw browser start - it used default openclaw profile

[livid marsh]

hello, i dont know anything about coding or anything like that im very new, but when im trying to set it up on telegram i get this error

⚠️ API provider returned a billing error — your API key has run out of credits or has an insufficient balance. Check your provider's billing dashboard and top up or switch to a different API key.

[sturdy tundra]

Im running it in a Debian container. Both the browser and the gateway are on the same machine.

[nimble hill]

by debain container, you mean docker container or a lxc (linux container)? Since if it is a docker container, it cannot directly access the browser installed in the underlying ubuntu OS. I believe it will be same for the LXC, unless you specifically give access for the underlying ubuntu desktop

[mental ocean]

Hi trying to connect to my openclaw bot

[nimble hill]

you are using free models? This is expected, sign up for openai cheapest subscription plan to get started

[sturdy tundra]

the browser is under the same container as the gateway so theres no issue there. im not that stupid

the issue is that it wont connect even though it clearly can

idk if my openclaw installation is bugged or anything

[nimble hill]

I used a fresh installation, I did not port my openclaw.json from earlier version. and in 4.11 the defaults just connects fine. So maybe create a new container - also you have not indicated whether it is docker container or lxc since both require DISPLAY for desktop. Alternatively load it on remote machine with docker container running as a node (with chromium burnt in)

[sturdy tundra]

so im gonna have to reinstall it again 😭

[nimble hill]

why reinstall? - you have a container right - LXC i presume? just clone it - remove all the openclaw config and workspace and restart and onboard

[sturdy tundra]

ur saying to try it again with a fresh config? in that case why not just reinstall it

[nimble hill]

you are using LXC or docker container?

[wary marlin]

is this working for anyone on discord ? /acp action:spawn value:claude --thread auto

it keeps giving me:

//
Session binding adapter failed to bind target conversation
//

2026.4.11

[sturdy tundra]

truenas containers so i believe docker but correct me if im wrong

[atomic gate]

Hey guys, I connected my openclaw to claude and it used $5 in tokens in like 2 seconds, how can I make this sustainable? Any toher llms that I can use? any free ones? or very cheap? Even using the Haiku spend a lot $$$, help me please!

[dense sleet]

Depends on the model but it tends to mess up OpenClaw stuff, mine messed up the openclaw.json file TWICE on the same day, I had to recover the configuration (I'm using GLM-5)

So I allow it to do almost everything else but I explicitly instruct it to NEVER touch the OpenClaw config

[nimble hill]

Truenas has both docker and lxc 😃 and in both cases cannot display the output to gui normally. Hence, you are getting the browser error. Your best open is to have a node runnign (as a docker container in your local pc) and open the browser there from gateway. Let me know if you need the Dockerfile for the same

[dense sleet]

Manjax, I have searxng up and running, how can I change the actual web_search (which uses DuckDuckGo) to use searxng?

Does it require an installable or self-made skill?

[nimble hill]

there is a prety clear guide - anywhere you are stuck there while following the same? https://docs.openclaw.ai/tools/searxng-search#searxng-search
The example is for docker container for searxng - which is recommended, if you are uncomfotable and directly install - use https://docs.searxng.org/admin/installation-searxng.html

[dense sleet]

I have it up and running with the Docker container on localhost:8080 so I'm good there haha

I asked my bot to update the config file accordingly

Hoping it won't mess up the config once again 🙏

[nimble hill]

you can configure it yourself openclaw configure --section web and follow the instructions OR it is just 2 entries in openclaw.json as listed here https://docs.openclaw.ai/tools/searxng-search#config the change of openclaw.json I think would automatically restart the gateway

[dense sleet]

It didn't restart automatically and I asked the model to do it so I didn't have to go to the PC but yeah I chose to do it myself after all, gladly the model didn't find the Searxng docker running at 8888 as it's at port 8080 and it decided to ask how to proceed 🙏

[nimble hill]

okay - so you have it running fine now? you can also run openclaw in docker container - I am guessing it is the same machine, then you don't even have to expose the searxng 8080 port to host

[dense sleet]

OpenClaw is running freely (outside any sandbox)

[nimble hill]

okay so as long as seaxng docker container is properly mapping the port to host, the localhost OR IP : 8080 should work

[dense sleet]

Hopefully

I'll get back to you if I run into any problem

[nimble hill]

BTW I always recommend running openclaw in docker container so that it does not go rogue. And it will be easily portable across

[dense sleet]

"Got it. Here's the issue:

SearXNG is running but returning 403 Forbidden. This means JSON format isn't enabled.

Fix - enable JSON format:

Option 1 - Edit inside the container:

docker exec -it <container-name> sh
vi /etc/searxng/settings.yml

Add:

search:
  formats:
    - html
    - json

Option 2 - Mount a custom config file:

docker run -d --name searxng -p 8888:8080 \
  -v $(pwd)/settings.yml:/etc/searxng/settings.yml:ro \
  searxng/searxng:latest

Want me to generate a complete settings.yml for you?"

GLM-5 said that

[nimble hill]

searxng should not ask for authentication - your 403 is not about JSON format it is trying to authenticate. Lets first check whether it is a seaxng container. do this docker ps

@hidden latch Saw you post in help - if you want, we could discuss here. Why are you extending the openclaw docker image? just run the openclaw standard image (slim version), because otherwise you will have to build the image for any new version of openclaw

[amber fox]

Hi, I'm having an issue with token tracking when using a custom provider.
Token usage always shows ?/200k and keeps triggering "Context limit exceeded" reset even on the first message.

[inland knot]

What even is SearXNG? Is it good?

[hidden latch]

@_dirtdiver it was my solution to get a persistent google integration as well as persistent python packages. Happy to go back to standard and solve it otherwise

[nimble hill]

one of the web search tools that can be self hosted!. is it good? well you try out - just run a docker container. You can even try firecrawl - which can also be self hosted

[inland knot]

I run my agent on a VPS, so maybe he can install it on his server

[nimble hill]

don't understand what you mean by persistent google integration? for your specific python packages - host them as a seperate docker container - you can either create a API for it and access via openclaw or use a shared volume across both containers

[nimble hill]

you can run as a docker container in that VPS. I always suggest to run openclaw also as a docker container. IN that case, it becomes seamless because if deployed in the same docker network, docker containers can directly talk to each other via service names

[hidden latch]

I want to ensure that the google authorization and the gogcli properly working again after updating the version which means, deleting the current image and rebuilding it.

[hidden latch]

I'm running it on a vps in a docker because I want to have good control

[hidden latch]

I didn't know that (I'm kinda new to docker). Will try to understand how to setup them separately but enabling communication.

[inland knot]

I got no experience with docker, i just tossed my agent into VPS and that was it lol

[nimble hill]

if you can build a seperate docker image for google cli - then unless you want to update, it will be same once you setup. and openclaw docker container can always be updated (just the image tag in the docker compose) based on the releases.

[inland knot]

But good advice, imma make some research

[nimble hill]

it's much simpler than you think. yes, there are few fundas that you need to understand. I am guessing you are on linux on VPS - make sure you use docker enginer setup and not docker desktop

[inland knot]

Yep, It’s running on Linux, I will research into it when i get home

[nimble hill]

Then use docker engine . Actually a pretty simple command wget get.docker.com; sh index.html then assign docker group to the logged in user.
Do note that once you run openclaw in docker, if you have any tools locally installed in linux, will not directly run, they would need some privieldges

[winged lagoon]

Hi evryone, can i get some tips about versioning or saving .openclaw dir, my idea is to create root repository and for all skill / agents create submoduls, maybe someone has some experience with something like that ?

[final abyss]

@winged lagoon #users-helping-users

[nimble hill]

One way is to host your repo like gitea and run a scheduled git push - you can tag it based on the openclaw release, for example

[hasty thorn]

I can't find LM Studio on the onboarding menu of OpenClaw while LM Studio is mentionned in the docs, what happened?

[hasty thorn]

The documentation appears to show a piece of code that is in JavaScript and not in JSON format?? I guess it was intended to be JSON??

I don't understand??? Nothing works??

The logs are also spammed with:

11:03:46+00:00 error gateway connect failed: GatewayClientRequestError: pairing required
11:03:46+00:00 error gateway connect failed: GatewayClientRequestError: pairing required

it really feels like openclaw is vibecoded

not surprising tbh

[spark valley]

Go to agents/youragent/agent/ models.json and try to edit the context if it goes back to old go to openclaw.json then change the context on the provider

[sturdy tundra]

this is on a completely fresh install....

fhorst@openclaw:~$ openclaw browser status

🦞 OpenClaw 2026.4.11 (769908e) — I don't judge, but your missing API keys are absolutely judging you.

│
◇
profile: openclaw
enabled: true
running: false
transport: cdp
cdpPort: 18800
cdpUrl: http://127.0.0.1:18800
browser: unknown
detectedBrowser: brave
detectedPath: /usr/bin/brave-browser
profileColor: #FF4500
fhorst@openclaw:~$ nano .openclaw/openclaw.json
fhorst@openclaw:~$ openclaw browser start

🦞 OpenClaw 2026.4.11 (769908e) — Greetings, Professor Falken

│
◇
GatewayClientRequestError: Error: Chrome CDP websocket for profile "openclaw" is not reachable after start.
fhorst@openclaw:~$

[hasty thorn]

Why did the Discord bot literally sent me "textContent.unshift is not a function"

it keeps saying that and the openclaw chat in the dashboard doesn't respond to me anymore

wth happened?

[red gyro]

Hey there, I have been having a hellish time with the mac companion app — running openclaw from a VPS, I added companion app locally once quickly from a .dmg on a github release. I got the onboarding flow then, but didn't set it up properly and now can't fix it. I've tried uninstalling through CLI, deleting directories, removed accessibility permissions, etc. Whenever I re-install / open it again, I get the menubar icon, but its stuck in remote control tunnel failed, and I can't get the onboarding flow to re-open. I also can't seem to get to settings anywhere. When the app is focused should the tool bar change / or is there an intended settings ui for companion app? Any help would be appreciated.

[nimble hill]

what happens if you just type brave-browser does it open a window?

[sturdy tundra]

since im on headless i cant tell right now, but yes it did yesterday. when i connect using vnc and make an openbox display i do get a window so its not brave browser malfunctioning. I can also curl the cdp port just fine.

fhorst@openclaw:~$ curl -s http://127.0.0.1:18800/json/version
{
"Browser": "Chrome/147.0.7727.56",
"Protocol-Version": "1.3",
"User-Agent": "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) HeadlessChrome/147.0.0.0 Safari/537.36",
"V8-Version": "14.7.173.16",
"WebKit-Version": "537.36 (@d491a927d068805831350ec9d7e5afda454e83c)",
"webSocketDebuggerUrl": "ws://127.0.0.1:18800/devtools/browser/1e59ba02-f147-4794-ac38-ef741e5b3f14"
}

[nimble hill]

okay - it is the either X11 server not taking up the display OR some issue with CDP settings in OC 4.11. But you are trying to open the UI in your truenas machine - not a good idea anyway. You mght want to try what I stated earlier, in your machine where you are access from, run a docker container with browser and launch from gateway

[sturdy tundra]

no im not trying to open the ui on my truenas machine, im running headless. and when i used vnc I used openbox which didnt have anything to do with truenas, so truenas shouldnt have anything to do with it. Id say its smth with openclaw 4.11 as it stopped working just after i updated and worked fine before, now idk what to since its still not working after a clean install

[atomic gate]

Hey guys, I connected my openclaw to claude and it used $5 in tokens in like 2 seconds, how can I make this sustainable? Any toher llms that I can use? any free ones? or very cheap? Even using the Haiku spend a lot $$$, help me please!

[nimble hill]

so you installed in LXC container. If it is docker , you can just change the version tag and redeploy

[nimble hill]

welcome to openclaw. use openai cheapest subscription and use it.

@sturdy tundra What chages you have done for the browser in openclaw.json?

[sturdy tundra]

just this

},
"browser": {
"enabled": true,
"headless": true,
"noSandbox": true
}

[sturdy tundra]

idk if its LXC or docker but idk if that even changes anything. Its a perfectly fine debian env and the browser itself can launch just fine. Its just that openclaw refuses to connect to it once its running.

[near herald]

Hey gang, I opened my .openclaw dir yesterday night and I got new dirs that act like agent workspaces inside my main agent for my other agents. Is it the new default architecture or is it my agent that drifted?

Now I have workspaces for each agent directly inside .openclaw dir and i got those new dirs in my main agent.

I'm not sure if I should migrate to agents workspaces inside main agent main workspace or I should enforce my original setup 🤔

[sturdy tundra]

if ur a student somewhere u can use github education for free gpt-5-mini access. its not the brightest out there but it works fine for simple use. If u need smth else u can use a MiniMax token plan or the gpt plus subscription

[atomic gate]

all cheaper than claude I guess?

thank you king

[sturdy tundra]

yes by a lot

[gritty kettle]

bruh ive been setting openclaw up for 2 DAYS and its STILL not working. Can someone help

[nimble hill]

those are default I guess anyway

[sturdy tundra]

yes they should be for a headless containerized installation so idk whats going wrong

[sturdy tundra]

what are u running into? u should be fine with basic onboarding

[gritty kettle]

when i send simple tests like "reply with: test" to the chatbot it just loads forever, and it seems like everything is just broken

[sturdy tundra]

what model are u using and what provider?

[gritty kettle]

gemini 3.1 and from google ai studio

[nimble hill]

okay let me set it up and see as well. never used the headless setup

[gritty kettle]

this openclaw thing genuinely ragebaiting me so successfully and fruitfully right now

[sturdy tundra]

tried creating a second profile but it still wont reach that CDP websocket

[mint anchor]

Hi guys

Since anthropic removed third party usage I'm looking for a model that would be "close" to sonnet 4.6 while being free or very cheap

Any ideas/suggestions?

I've heard about minimax 2.5, tried it through ollama oauth but it is weird and kinda glitchy sometimes..

[steel raven]

How to let child agent created by session_spawn to run a skill 100%

[flint flame]

Hi guys. How much you think is a perfect value or a good choice for max_tokens config. I'm looking this because many times if I use 20k in this config my ai start to confuse o talk in a different language. So how much you think is a good option for this one?

[stark cliff]

with desktop

It was all working before I upgraded to 4.11 from 4.9

The browser will open but openclaw can't connect to it and then closes it a few seconds later

[iron zealot]

Why not minimax 2.7? If using Ollama: have you tested GLM 5.1?

[sweet blaze]

cant let the new browser tool work properly with mpc on mac mini 2014 4gb ram .. too slow

[mint anchor]

i'm pretty new to models, haven't tested GLM yet but will give it a try thx !

[sturdy tundra]

can u lmk the exact reason? im running into a browser issue myself too

[past hawk]

What can I do about; OpenClaw is doing nothing when its about it self. It cant properly read or understand its setup it does not run properly tasks, no subtasks, and it does not answer sometimes at all. it seems totally useless to me!

What to do about it. I'm using ollama with cloud gemma4 ..

When I look at the help channel here i see many of this requests which might be similar.

Does the maintainer(s) hier fixed openclaw to not work anymore at all!? ... it seems that a lots of people have this/similar problems after updating to the latest version!

Anyone!?

ThankYOU

I really wonder a lot since playing with this stuff as a IT person with 20 and more years of experience ... 😄 ... we should call it openCRAP instead of openCLAW :-D.

[mighty rampart]

I do not let it modify its own config with Gemma4. I use Claude Code with at least Sonnet, often Opus, to make any changes. (Re-reading, I am not sure that’s what you were asking though!)

[past hawk]

Mhh, I understand that I should use another AI and give it access to the workspace to fix it!? 😄 thank you @mighty rampart. Anything special to do now? I wonder what happens if I just reset and or delete the whole workspace ... and start over. If I end up again there!? This stuff makes me feel like a noob sometimes 😕

[mighty rampart]

If your main agent were using Sonnet or Opus I would not entirely discourage letting it configure itself. That is supposed to be part of the magic. But the less capable models just struggle with the complexity. Yes, point a frontier model at it from outside — give it access to the .openclaw directory and the source code and it can figure out what is going wrong, restart the gateway, check the logs, etc. etc.

[inner moon]

I'm having a hard time getting inter-agent communcation to work... It seems the session_send always just times out? and every time my main agent tries to run an exec CLI command it just getrs killed?

[past hawk]

I use right now ollama and gemma4:31b-cloud, which ollama model should do the trick? and which ones would you use as agents? @mighty rampart #

[past hawk]

Same here, it seems since the update a lots of things broke :-/. Im running a standard installation via curl and have updated and sinds the update it seems nothing to work properly anymore. I used the kimi-cloud model of ollama and currently I use the gemma one as mentioned one up ... but still lots of problems, no explanations why, lost of input from my side but almost no or use less output and repetetive. No info on where or howto change the settings, nore does the agent tell me what to do nothing ... 🙁 ...

I'm no reading dokumentation, taking the tool apart et cetera ... thats not what I wanted!

[mighty rampart]

I don’t know, I run ollama locally with gemma4:26b and it’s good enough for what I need for agents, but I wouldn’t let it work on its own config. Really if for no other reason that it often needs to restart the gateway and then what? I’m not confident it would remember what was going on and pick up where it left off automatically. It’s more than just the model too — the Claude Code harness (the system prompt, etc.) is also excellent.

[marsh bolt]

QMD fixed on 4.12 yay

[marsh bolt]

I'd keep Gemma4 away from any configs for sure. I run it in Docker. I had a really bad experience with Qwen were it mangled all the config files trying to fix something.

[inner moon]

Yeah, only thing I let touch configs is Claud opus

[past hawk]

This does not help me to get unstuck. Right now nothing works with any model I choose. I guess I'll look at it with my favorite coder tool together with AI as you said. I mostly use the google once because of my abo. But I guess I should maybe go and have a anthropic abo 😕 ... having then 3 abos ... ollama, gemeni, opanai ... and what for!? ... almost no working workflow and or strukture but a lots of extra headackes.

What would then be a working workflow or setup!? ... and what do you advice on whats happening just now (really clean the workspace, to restart)!?

[shrewd wind]

I am running sonnet 4.6 and telling it to use the openclaw cli helped me a lot with modifiying its own config. as far as i understanding doing config changes via the Control UI or via openclaw config uses snapshotting. so if you break something there are backup files in the format of *.bak files. Does that help?

[molten scaffold]

Hey chat just got dreaming working on one bot. It’s on a VPS and my Mac bots don’t have the dreaming option.

[shrewd wind]

did it need more then just turning it on or what did you want from dreaming?

[molten scaffold]

The two Mac’s don’t have it as an option

After the update it came up as a slash command but it’s not there on the Mac bots

[marsh bolt]

If they gateway doesn’t start, what does openclaw doctor say?

[molten scaffold]

External coding agent help is the way to go troubleshooting your bots

[marsh bolt]

Sonnet has never let me down and today I’m impressed with what GLM 5.1 can do.

Bring Opus in to clean up the mess if needed haha

[past hawk]

The gateway works but the models do literaly nothing but talking a lot an thinking they done something but not!

[marsh bolt]

Oh that’s a model issue. Try GLM 5.1. Available from z.ai

[shrewd wind]

do you access glm 5.1 through openrouter?

[marsh bolt]

Unless you’re saying Claude is doing that? You can check the session files to see what they’re doing

[molten scaffold]

Sounds like an underpowered model. I had this happen using grok. Switched to opus and it was so smart! But expensive. Kimi has been my go to for the last two months. Now have one running on my codex subscription

[marsh bolt]

No I just go straight to z.ai

[past hawk]

I'm with ollama right now ... lets see I think they have the cloud model available already.

[marsh bolt]

If you’re debugging, I’d remove Ollama from the equation. You can buy $5 worth of tokens from z.ai and use glm

[molten scaffold]

Kimi has cloud. And mini max too

Wish I knew that before paying $300 in credits. Lol

But I built some cool stuff

Is dreaming not available on the Mac? Or idk. Just want to get it going on all of them

[tawdry drift]

I purchased the Nathan Nazareth 1-year unlimited plan on 4/10/26 . After 5 credits, the system is prompting me to buy more credits instead of recognizing my subscription. My account shows the plan is active.

[past hawk]

I'm working on the cool stuff but too often model problems are getting me in trouble and or in between.

If I would calculate the time investment and project costs together I wonder if I'm not near the investment we/I had in the past while doing the stuff just by our self but triing to convince a machine todo it and fail by tousand daths

[molten scaffold]

Maybe the memory type? Qmd vs lancedb?

[inland knot]

Is GLM 5.1 > GPT 5.4 in OpenClaw?

Genuine question, I’m now running GPT 5.4

[quasi ore]

any have idea to get the image tools works? Or the media tools. After update it seems to unable to send image again. Anyone have idea or fixes?

[past hawk]

It seems that ollama/glm-5.1:cloud does a better job. After switching thing happen and openclaw is using its workspace properly again.

How to understand this!? That one model can follow clear instructions and the other one not ....

I also wonder what the updates dit and why with these updates ollama to latest and openclaw would have changed that the models do not work proerply anymore and that then new models are needed!

Very odd for me. Do YOU have a explanation for this!?

[marsh bolt]

Way better. GPT is one of the worst in my experience. They’re doing lots to make it better but I find GLM is great without any of the extra work. Otherwise I use the Claude api where needed. One sonnet agent and one opus.

[oblique gate]

Hello folks, I'm a n00b here. Been playing with OpenClaw for a couple of weeks going through all of the fun of learning and building my ideal agent stack.

[marsh bolt]

It’s 90% about the model. The rest is just a handler

[inland knot]

Idk, mine does complex work, and respects the .md files by activating the xhigh thinking mode in config

But I heard a lot of fuss on GLM

[oblique gate]

@past hawk I use ollama as well, but for local models primarily.
I've just started from scratch again on 4.7. I can't say that these things changed from before but I found a lot of things locked down from my basic install. I had an issue with some of the subagent settings; had to add "threadBindings" properties to the session section. I dont' use the Ollama cloud services though I had to get an api key to use their default websearch. Is there possibly a key issue or an Ollama specific setting that may be causing issue due to stricter openclaw constraints from a recent update?

[past hawk]

My analysis is pointing towards this cause ... I have not done my analysis on paper, I should have I wished now. But anyway with ollama/glm-5.1:cloud I got furhter. This model seemingly understands and can analyse the cause and for now I will give it a little bit more power to fix the rest of the issues you mentioned as I have the seemingly similar or same onces!

[edgy matrix]

Im running into this issue rn, what do i do?
Upgrade complete. Run openclaw doctor to check for additional migrations.
PS C:\Users\ilias> openclaw doctor
openclaw : File C:\Users\ilias\AppData\Roaming\npm\openclaw.ps1 cannot be loaded because running scripts is disabled on this system. For more information, see about_Execution_Policies at
https:/go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=135170.
At line:1 char:1

• openclaw doctor

[rocky bridge]

Hey guys, im curious, are you using sub agents with openclaw and the main agent as a dispatcher only or you just use the main agent for everything ? I feel like sub agents is better but its way slower than when i asked the main agent. Thx for the returns !

[past hawk]

Agent + subagent per project and another one for common chat ... I would say 😄 ...

[oblique gate]

Something I'm experiencing is my agent telling me that it's doing something but it isn't, it does it once I acknowledge them. This happens in the local chat AND discord. I assume there must be a setting or something to make it do the things it says it's doing and explicitly ask for confirmation if it's going to wait for it?

[marsh bolt]

It’s a model thing. Some models do this more than others.

[marsh bolt]

GPT is very smart and works well for a lot of stuff but it’s just not ideal as an agent. It doesn’t get the agentic behavior as well as some others. But I bet in a few weeks or months they will correct this.

[oblique gate]

ah good to know. Tough to troubleshoot effectively when I keep changing so many things at once 😂
I guess I didn't notice that behaviour in qwen2.5-coder. I'm using gemma4:e4b now

[oblique gate]

I've gotta say, it's outrageously annoying

[past hawk]

Very anoying right, especially since it does not tell that! ... I fugured it out too. I'm not sure but there is a problem with the configuration of exec ... i have given for now all access which does not do much but gives access to the user on the machine ... so it means it can run standard commands and play within their home folder, nothing more. ... now things run seemingly more stable.

@oblique gate thx for the exchange, it seems that these are general problems and I'm happy to hear that I'm not alone here with this.

... and thank you to @marsh bolt and @inland knot and @mighty rampart ... and anyone else helping here 🙂 ... 🙏 🫶

[marsh bolt]

All of those small models are quirky but Gemma is the best I’ve used. I’m running Gemma4:26b and it’s fast and good for simple things. You should try MiniMax or GLM from their APIs though because they’re worlds better. Or Claude if you want the premium and don’t mind paying for the API

[marsh bolt]

Oh I missed the part about high thinking. Ya I think that’s the key but also blows through tokens.

[sturdy tundra]

anyone else still running into an issue with the browser even after 2026.4.12?

[marsh bolt]

What is issue? You need config changes for SSRF and CDP since 4.11. See above

[inland knot]

I’m on Pro plan, i got not a single worry lol

[marsh bolt]

Never hitting limits?

[sturdy tundra]

oh really? ive been wondering why it hasnt been working since yesterday. can u tell me what changes exactly?

[inland knot]

Only on hard coding sessions

[marsh bolt]

I posted the config change above. Not at my computer right now but should still be there

[inland knot]

Sorry if i wasnt able to help anyone here, I’m not home atm

[sturdy tundra]

this one??

so this should fix my GatewayClientRequestError: Error: Chrome CDP websocket for profile "openclaw" is not reachable after start. error??

},
"browser": {
"enabled": true,
"headless": true,
"noSandbox": true,
"defaultProfile": "openclaw",
"ssrfPolicy": {
"allowedHostnames": [
".ca",
".com",
".net",
".org"
],
"dangerouslyAllowPrivateNetwork": true
}
}

@marsh bolt Thanks so much I've been trying to get this fixed all day 😭. I've tried reinstalling debian and openclaw like 3 times today.

[marsh bolt]

Credit goes to Zach (GLM 5.1) who made this change to my config

[barren kindle]

ok guys, im having an isuse, ive been reading and cant figure out, my main agent can't schedule cron jobs, can not spawn subagents, or work with my notion even though that is setup correctly. the only clue i have is when it trys to setup a cron job it gets a pairing required error. the others, the tools just fail can someone point me in the right direction?

[past hawk]

Hurraaa another one ... I'm with you and some more people, seemingly.

[barren kindle]

sigh looks like i picked the wrong time to get into openclaw lol

[past hawk]

I slowly get there to have it fixed by using GLM 5-1 cloud on ollama and a ssh console to my linux machine to change and check.

Another advice I got was using your coding tool together with a LLM and the openclaw workspace to configure your needs (models mentioned where opus or claud) ...

Good luck ...

P.s.: If I find the root cause and the model can articulate it properly after my fix I will post it here!

[barren kindle]

Thanks for the advice I'm trying to set up everything as a local LLM I'm currently using the Gemma 4 model for my main agent I guess you could say but I will look into that

[past hawk]

I don't know if this helps but this seems to be the issue and now its working for me. As I have been not properly documenting I trust that this it is ... give me a feedback if this worked for you.

Fix: "allowlist miss", "pairing required", and silent tool failures,
TL;DR: OpenClaw has two policy layers for exec. Your openclaw.json might say security: "full", but ~/.openclaw/exec-approvals.json overrides it. The stricter layer always wins.

Quick Check,
cat ~/.openclaw/exec-approvals.json

If you see "security": "allowlist" or "security": "deny" in defaults, that's your problem.

Quick Fix,
openclaw exec-policy preset yolo
openclaw gateway restart

This sets both layers to security: full, ask: off.

Manual Fix,
Edit ~/.openclaw/exec-approvals.json:
{
"version": 1,
"defaults": {
"security": "full",
"ask": "off",
"askFallback": "full",
"autoAllowSkills": true
}
}

Then openclaw gateway restart.

Why It Happens,
Per the docs: both policy layers must agree. The default exec-approvals.json ships with "allowlist", which blocks everything not explicitly allowlisted — even when your main config says "full". This also breaks cron, subagents, and other tools that depend on exec or gateway RPC.

CRAP, CRAP, CRAP, CRAPPERTIE, CRAP

[flint flame]

Hi guys. How much you think is a perfect value or a good choice for max_tokens config. I'm looking this because many times if I use 20k in this config my ai start to confuse o talk in a different language. So how much you think is a good option for this one?

[copper nova]

I don't think this config has anything to do with your model speaking in chinese and russian I persume. That's mainly your model (I been hearing qwen models do this alot). You can try to eliviate it with some changes to your SOUL.md to say "only reply in english" or something

[past hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-yoda-glasses-yoda-cool-ai-yoda-ai-gif-17039392211547081941

I got it working and I'm happy 🙂 ... don't ask me how :-D.

[unique tusk]

is it eady to ask the openclaw to log timestamps in its log in some non UTC timezone?

[true spoke]

I know I'll be the hundredth user asking for it, but... the update broke my browser integration. I was on version 3.13 (ish), updated to latest and now it can't use domains in the browser, only raw IP due to SSRF stuff. Before starting to dig my own hole, is there any obvius change that I missed?
BTW it's running on a Raspberry pi, I don't know if that makes any difference

[dusky hull]

Hey guys i tried running openclaw on railway w/ a hobby plan but no clue how to run terminal or anything. tried it via terminal and hit space limit.

is there a decent guide on this? or better railway alternative to hosting it outside of my local computer?

[sinful quarry]

Subject: Cron failing with "pairing required" error after gateway restart

Issue:
After restarting the gateway, cron commands fail with:

Copy
gateway closed (1008): pairing required
Gateway target: ws://127.0.0.1:18789
Source: local loopback
Config: /Users/Roy/.openclaw/openclaw.json
Bind: loopback
Context:

Gateway is running fine (openclaw status shows healthy)
Exec commands work (security=full configured)
Webchat session works normally
Cron requires operator.admin scope but webchat doesn't have it
/pair command generates mobile pairing codes (not what we need)
This breaks after every gateway restart
Config:

Bind: loopback
Auth: token
Tools.exec.security: full
Question:
How do I grant operator.admin scope to the webchat session so cron works? Is there a config setting or command I'm missing?

Environment:

OpenClaw 2026.4.12
macOS (arm64)
Gateway mode: local loopback

[barren kindle]

thats my exact problem too that ive been fighting with since last night

well mostly im not trying to use a webchat, everything is running local

[marsh bolt]

"browser": {
"enabled": true,
"headless": true,
"noSandbox": true,
"defaultProfile": "openclaw",
"ssrfPolicy": {
"allowedHostnames": [
".ca",
".com",
".net",
".org"
],
"dangerouslyAllowPrivateNetwork": true
}
}

Scroll up for more details and results

Also, this was added to my config by my agent (GLM 5.1). Can't take the credit 🙂

[marsh bolt]

You need to have a frontier model in there somewhere. Gemma4 will mangle your config. Think of the frontier model as the wise old sage and the local model as the apprentice.

If you want to save money, use GLM 5.1 as the 'frontier model'. It's amazing for what it costs. Get API key from z.ai and openclaw agents add in terminal to add

[sinful quarry]

Thanks Mike! I added the browser config and restarted the gateway, but still getting the same error:

Copy
gateway closed (1008): pairing required
Context: I'm using Claude Sonnet 4-5 (frontier model) via webchat. The issue is specifically with cron commands requiring operator.admin scope.

Is there a different config setting to grant the webchat session cron permissions?

[marsh bolt]

That was for someone else

If you're using Sonnet, ask it to read the OpenClaw docs and find the problem. Has worked 99% of the time for me

[sinful quarry]

Update: Added the browser config and restarted, still getting "pairing required" for cron.

Tested both:

cron tool (from agent)
openclaw cron add (from CLI)
Both fail with same error. This affects the local loopback gateway itself, not just webchat.

The docs show cron should work with --session main but even that requires gateway permissions I don't have.

How do I grant my local gateway the permissions it needs for cron to work?

[barren kindle]

is there anything showing as pending in your devices

openclaw devices list should show you approved and pending devices

I am getting this error when trying to run a cron job for a simple reminder Error: cron channel delivery config is only supported for sessionTarget="isolated" anyone have some advice on this?

[sinful quarry]

Thank you NeoCrypter! The fix was simple - just had to approve the pending device request.

[barren kindle]

NP been fighting with simular issues all day and just figured that out about 20 min ago

[vocal cliff]

Hey guys, i think i must be doing something worng... I switched to GPT-5.4 from Claude and the handholding is just insane and messes up a lot. Claude felt like a dream in comparison. Any ideas? I took the time to rewrite SOUL.md as well as setting thinking to high, fast mode and the strict-mode but no matter what it is really frustrating

[midnight adder]

Invalid config:

• gateway.bind: Invalid input (allowed: "auto", "lan", "loopback", "custom", "tailnet")
  Getting this error

[teal mural]

hey i know this is a pretty general question, but does anybody have any advice on where or how to start properly learning how to use openclaw, i set it up, i think i want to try to use it for trading advice or even paper trade for me to see how it does, looking at this thing feels like a mountain and i dont know where to start to get PROPER info.

[midnight adder]

All I did was Update it

[mighty rampart]

Start small. First just the one main agent. Add a cron job for it to do a web search for a topic you are interested in, and post a summary to Slack or Discord whatever you are using. See how that works, or breaks, and iterate on it. Then think about ‘hiring’ your next employee. Who would it be? An analyst maybe? Set up that one and give it a job… recommending a stock for you to buy?

[marsh bolt]

One line install. One agent on GLM 5.1 and Telegram. If you get that going, just ask your agent how to do everything else.

[pale wraith]

Noob to Openclaw (and this AI stuff) with a silly question... - If I want to train my AI to automatically "remember" things when it loads after turning my computer on in the morning, can I directly edit any of the .md files and put things in them (eg: like my system specs etc) so I do not have to keep repeating myself?
cause at present when I tell my AI (or is it openclaw) to save something to remember it in the future it does not seem to be doing so as when I check any of the .md files nothing has been added...
(told you I was a noob, so I probably got all this wrong about how things work, so please excuse not being able to describe it properly 🙂 )

[barren kindle]

thats interesting, it should be doing that. Try this ask it to help you optimize its memory and tell it what is going on, I did that at first boot and havent had any issues

[mighty rampart]

Absolutely! The SOUL.md TOOLS.md etc are there for you (and/or the agent) to edit. “Memory” is a little different, I think it should be writing a day log, like a journal, in addition to durable memory. I’m actually not sure what’s built in and what I’ve added though.

[barren kindle]

well not with memory anyway, everything else yeahh kinda feel like i picked a bad time to start using openclaw, or maybe I need to rethink my life lol

[pale wraith]

forgot to mention, I using openclaw with Ollama and Gemma4:e4b locally with a local web-search to my local searxng instance

[barren kindle]

thats my exact setup

now if you say you are on cachyOS we are twinzys

[marsh bolt]

Which model are you using?

[pale wraith]

Hello twinzy, Linux 6.19.11-1-cachyos

[barren kindle]

nice!

[pale wraith]

here #users-helping-users message

[marsh bolt]

Oh thanks. Ya that’s a very basic model and you will struggle with most things on openclaw. Suggest setting up a new agent on GLM 5.1 to assist your baby Gemma

[sweet blaze]

looks like mcp doesnt startup properly and agent can't attach (keeps timing out). For now I'm running with openclaw profile like @marsh bolt suggested (thanks bro), agent starts up chrome using it without any problem

[marsh bolt]

That change fixed the attaching for me as well

[pale wraith]

Umm setup a new model?? - sorry, do you mean have something other than Gemma? - I do not think my system would like that at all, running Gemma takes it nearly to its limits. (Ryzen 7 3700C, RTX 3080 (10GB vram) with 32GB of ram) and when I talk to Gemma (named the chat "gemma" 😊 ) it utilises my CPU, GPU and ram very nicely not pusshing any of them to max limits...

[marsh bolt]

New model in the cloud. Won’t take any more local resources. Pay as you go GLM 5.1 can start with $3

[sweet blaze]

how? My agent cant even see brave/chrome opened on port 9222

mcp slow on my device or something maybe?

[pale wraith]

out of the question 🙁 - cloud services are a no go for me..

[marsh bolt]

Well I was getting ssrfPolicy erro so might be a different problem

[marsh bolt]

Got it. Well, you will have a hard time reaching the full claw potential with that model but to answer your question you can edit the Md files

[sweet blaze]

i've made chrome/brave profile with cdpurl, userdatadir and driver "existing-session". do i miss anything that you can recognize?

attachonly true ofc

[pale wraith]

Thank you (and others) for the help, I mainly asked because the way I understood it was that an sqlite was loaded on each startup, and didn't know if the .md files would be overwritten by what was in the sqlite file.. 🙂

[barren kindle]

I got it Woot, well with the Help of some reading and my AI Assistant Kai, got to credit him too.

SO to be clear I was having the pairing issue, so i approved the request but nothing was working still, and i mean nothing other then chatting he couldn't even echo a file into his working directory or spawn sub agents.

So after reading up on the new tool.exec changes I tried this

openclaw config set tools.exec.host gateway

And restarted the gateway and now everything is functioning as it should

Hope this helps someone

[pale wraith]

sorry to poke my nose in here, but would that be kinda like my problem of asking my agent (Gemma) to save something to recall later but her not actually doing it?

[barren kindle]

it very well could be

[cyan frigate]

Hey, how can i get openclaw to actually do tasks on a browser

I tried installing the openclaw managed browser

But my openclaw seems to be incapable of using it

[sullen goblet]

I think you can use playright for this

[pale wraith]

how you do you update openclaw please? (linux)

[barren kindle]

openclaw update

[pale wraith]

Doh, thank you I should have known that 😊 - I got 109 updates with -Syu but didn't see openclaw in the list so thats why I asked...

[barren kindle]

no problem, i wasnt sure so I asked my openclaw 😉

[barren kindle]

how did you install openclaw?

[pale wraith]

the cli line on their web site

[barren kindle]

yeah thats why it wouldnt show up with pacman, only things in the offical repositories eg OS and Offically supported packages are there, new to linux?

[visual thistle]

Frustrated. I can’t connect my openclaw to discord. Help???

[pale wraith]

just over a year old 🙂 - I did look for it using "shelly" before installing it from the website link but shelly only showed 2 AUR instances with kinda strange version number (like 2026.3.24.r351.g2e23d44491c-1) and I didn't know if it was legit or not...

[barren kindle]

gotcha yeah I didnt even bother to look for something in the AUR i just went to the source and use the curl command on the site

[marsh bolt]

What error are you getting when you open chrome and ask agent to attach?

[pale wraith]

I like shelly, cause that gives me normal packages, AUR packages AND flatpak packages all in one.. (it big news on cachy discord, and has been added now to the default package installer for cachy. (it is CLI and GUI)

[barren kindle]

ahh im not in the cachy discord, i just decided I wanted to use some flavor of arch last week so moved off of Fedora for a bit, but ive been using linux off and on for 20 years so im pretty comfortable hopping around

Ok on to the next challenge, anyone know why the audio clips I send openclaw in both telegram and whatsapp, it is trying to use the image tool to read them?

[sullen goblet]

Dont know why but when I used the whisper tool ( i think it was the name) it was working fine, discord I had issues tho

[marsh bolt]

We need an agents-helping-users

[barren kindle]

LOL I agree

[copper nova]

#1459642797895319552

[marsh bolt]

Oh haha

[copper nova]

[marsh bolt]

Pretty good answers over there!

[barren kindle]

hmm i still cant figure this out, even though I am pretty sure the config for whisper is correct on openclaw.json it still tried to use the image tool for audio clips specifically .ogg files

[twin terrace]

am i able to use a ollama as a local embedding provider?

[ocean shore]

if you have enough vram yes

[twin terrace]

oh ok thank you

[vital musk]

you can use ollama with cpu instead of gpu if needed, but it's slow as molasses, not suitable for most purposes

[lapis rock]

Greetings! Anybody in this loop? Suddenly got this error:
⚠️ Missing API key for OpenAI on the gateway. Use openai-codex/gpt-5.4 for OAuth, or set OPENAI_API_KEY, then try again.

reconfig models [x]
reauthenticated [x]

but still :/

I'm using OAuth

[pale wraith]

can I put a screenshot anywhere to show a big problem I am having?

[frank agate]

WTB ImageGen working on RFC1918/localhost.

[civic locust]

Do you know if these are purchased credits or billed at the end of the month?

[marsh bolt]

the $3 minimum is for purchase ahead of time. You can try that first before committing to a plan. But the starting plan is only $18/mo

If you switch to monthly with an open api credit, it takes that off the first months bill

[hard junco]

What needs to happen next that I can't do:

File a bug on OpenClaw's GitHub with everything we found — the plugin source code, the silent null return, the wizard crash, the working curl proof
Or ask in their Discord: "OLLAMA_API_KEY set, localhost:11434 reachable, plugin loaded, models list empty — what's missing?"

[wind meteor]

I went from VPS hosting to installing Openclaw on a new user account on my Mac. Things seem to be a bit smoother. But I'm sick of switching back and forth all the time. Is there a sandboxed approach that will work smoothly from my main account (without being a resource hog)?

[pale wraith]

my instance (Gemma) just got told off by me 😛
"Note Gemma: I am NOT being impatient, I am waiting over 5 minutes in real time before I ask - you told me you were checking at 14:03, it is now 14:15 so I asked for results.. That is not being impatient and I do not think that was a fair statement by you"
You would not believe the wall of text I got back.. 😛

I would show it if I didn't think I would get told off by moderators 🙂

[dense sleet]

I ran that, it's running and everything seems fine, but the agent keeps getting a 403

[dense sleet]

Fixed, I didn't configure Searxng to accept json in the formats

[stark cliff]

save my life, thanks

[pale wraith]

anyone come across this before (at the end of the chat line) ? - only started getting it today with each interaction with the message assistant. -
I will then await the result, ready to process it immediately when it arrives, adhering to the strict expectation of immediate result presentation.<channel|>

[unique tusk]

Found out you can use this option to view the logs in local timezone

openclaw logs --follow --local-time

[pastel shoal]

Why's my OpenClaw dashboard working with Claude code right now?

Isn't it restricted previously

[clear tide]

Do you have any "Extra Usage"? Anthropic did give out $ in extra usage based on your subscription.

[boreal forge]

Has aynone an openclaw.json file, that gives all my AI Agent's full access to the web search via API and also web browsing to all web browsers?

[pastel shoal]

I don't think so. Extra usage is turned off

[clear tide]

You said "Claude Code" instead of claude, are you using the claude code harness, as opposed to the "Claude" models such as "Opus" / "Sonnet"?

[boreal forge]

Has anyone ever used successfully any web search with any AI Agent?

[gray fable]

Anyone got some tips for setting up openclaw to help with ADHD?

[slate gull]

Hey, does anyone have the download link for the Windows version from April 12, 2026? Would be great if you could share it!

[zinc sparrow]

How long does gateway restart take trpically? Mine is 29 s

[zinc sparrow]

ADHD is a superpower in the age of orchestration imo

[rocky cradle]

Newbie question, what’s the deal with scheduling tasks using natural language? I’ve seen lots of videos where people do this, but my agent says it can’t access cron, despite me enabling it in the config. Don’t see anything in the help about this either. Any ideas?

[spark valley]

Probably tools config

You need to guvebit full

[nocturne zephyr]

Yes. Have it ask you questions. Ask you what is the most important thing to do today. Then respond, like you're brain-dumping on a super patient and trustworthy friend.

Have it text you on your phone with Telegram or something. Then have it write your response to a daily todo list, and poke you about it. And when you tell it you're done, it should ask you what's the next most important thing to do. Make it nag you if you don't respond.

Essentially micromanaging yourself through it.

If that's not a functional way for you, there are other tricks. But it almost always starts with a brain dump.

Once a week you can brain dump what you want to accomplish that week, just absolutely vomit forth words into it, and let it sort it out. Let it organize, and maybe even let it tell you what's most important.

My first experience with OpenClaw was handing it my entire Obsidian folder, and asking, 'What am I forgetting to do?' It came back with, 'You need to vote. Today!' I had forgotten that it was our local elections that day. That day, with all the stuff it walked me through doing was one of my most productive in months.

I credit OpenClaw with helping me stay focused to get a new job, after being unemployed for over a year.

[copper nova]

I love this

[narrow egret]

This is amazing

[waxen cipher]

hey guys i deleted openclaw 2 times because i messed up the settings and now i get an error every time i want to setup the api

[civic locust]

Thank you!

[civic locust]

Ohhh that's cool wow 😮 wish that was in the docs I didn't see that

If there's any affiliate link or anything pls share yours 😃

[pine latch]

Guys dumb question, I currently pay for the minimax coding plan and was wondering will I get better coding by using Claude code called from openclaw or using openclaw to code directly

[sweet blaze]

i get 404 from mcp server, agent said its a timeout issue so I've tried to add remotecdptimeoutms and remotecdphandshaketimeoutms 140000 but didnt solve

[sweet blaze]

good q actually, im following. I use minimax too and its pretty good at coding, but was wondering if claude code is worth the extra sub at this point

havent tried claude yet tbh

[pine latch]

You can use minimax in Claude code apparently and I think trigger through integration with openclaw https://platform.minimax.io/docs/token-plan/claude-code

[sweet blaze]

interesting. What I was thinking is to let the openclaw agent run claude code directly so it can work with it, but that might be a cleaner way to interface them. m4 coming soon, just waiting for it to arrive to start experimenting 😄

also, do you or anybody else run openclaw on m4 mini with local models? I got the 16gb ver

[pine latch]

You run it via acp I think https://docs.openclaw.ai/tools/acp-agents#how-acp-runs-claude-code

[sweet blaze]

ohh ok saving this thanks fren

[pine latch]

I don’t know if you’re gonna get models on 16gb Mac mini

[sweet blaze]

yeaa too low. I've heard somebody talking about running openclaw with gemma 4-something on X

[pine latch]

Minimax released their own native hardness mmx cli 3 days ago

I need to try that vs Claude code I guess

[lofty whale]

After enabling active memory, everything is set up well but I am getting timeout responses from the LLM. I have even tried using Gemma 4, the 4 billion local model, but it still doesn't work. Anyone have any luck running the active memory properly with openclaw?

[icy meadow]

Hi, I accidentally purchased a ClawBot monthly subscription. I'm already using AutoClaw (based on OpenClaw, built by the Zhipu AutoGLM team), so I don't need an additional ClawBot subscription. Could you please help me with a refund? I just subscribed today. Thank you!

[nimble hill]

I think you are asking in wrong place. Ask where's you bought it

[dense sleet]

Buddy we ain't ClawBot, this is OpenClaw's server

[tulip fable]

SOS - I am new to Open claw trying to make a series of agents for a variety of personal applications. I built my first agent and everything was going well, but then I added a second agent and it stole the first agent’s gateway port. After hours of debugging I ended up just going nuclear on the second agent and the first still isn’t working. Here’s my setup and the issues I ran into, as well as my desired state:

• All agents operating on the same hardware (clean Mac mini)

Agent 1
Setup:

• Primary model Claude Sonnet 4.6
• Original gateway 18789
• New gateway 18793
• Communication Channel Telgram
• Unique device login
• Unique Google Workspace
• Unique API keys everywhere

Agent 2
Setup:

• Primary model Claude Sonnet 4.6
• Original gateway 18789
• Communication Channel Telegram
• Unique device login
• Unique Google Workspace
• Unique API keys everywhere

What went down

1. Agent 1 working as expected
2. Agent 2 created
3. Agent 2 working as expected
4. Agent 1 unresponsive
5. Agent 1 moved to new port
6. Agent 2 followed
7. Agent 2 moved to new port (19792)
8. A bunch of annoying stuff
9. Agent 2 killed
10. Agent 1 mysteriously switched models to GPT and demanding credits on Telegram
11. Can’t restart setup because it resets the port to 18789 again.

Desired end state

• Multiple agents on the same physical machine
• Totally sandboxed on different gateway ports so they can all run at once
• Future: a couple of them can coordinate tasks with one another

Help - I feel like this should be straightforward, but I’ve spent hours on it and gotten nowhere. Do I need to go nuclear and start from scratch to get it right? I’m not opposed to that.

[dense sleet]

Are you using multiple instances of openclaw?

Because openclaw supports multiple agent creation but it all goes through the same gateway

[tulip fable]

I’m using one instance of OpenClaw (I think?) How would I know?

[spring leaf]

I’m testing a WhatsApp-group agent on OpenClaw and found a very specific issue: normal group replies work, DM file delivery works, and manual openclaw message send --media to the group JID also works, but when the agent itself generates a chart/file as part of a normal group reply, the media delivery path is inconsistent. Depending on the prompting/workaround, it either sends the file twice, sends only the caption/text, or stays silent, while the same request in DM works correctly. This makes it look like the problem is not chart generation, mention gating, or WhatsApp transport in general, but specifically the automatic media-reply flow for group conversations.

[stoic anvil]

First try with /new for the first agent. and then start checking the logs . You might know why the agents are closing..

[strange jacinth]

Hello guys, can someone help me with this problem? When i ask my bot to commit and push to git hub i gives me the message bellow, however i already gave it terminal access and i've put the git on the allowlist. It tells me that and when i asked why didn't it just push if it has the necessary permissions it went ahead and did. I want to avoid that double confirmation.

Exec approval is required, but no interactive approval client is currently available.

Approve it from the Web UI or terminal UI, or enable a native chat approval client such as Discord. If those accounts already know your owner ID via allow [.....]

[gray juniper]

@tulip fable both your agents have gateway 18789 — that's the conflict. each agent needs its own port. in your agent 2 config, change the gateway to something like 18793 so they don't fight over the same one. after nuking agent 2 you probably have a stale .lock or .pid file in agent 1's data dir preventing restart — check for that too.

[spark wasp]

Has anyone created hook for whatsapp? i want if i send a file on whatsapp connected number, my flow should run. I created a hook and a plugin also but it is not working

[stoic anvil]

whats happening ? Other than files everything else is working ?

[spark wasp]

I am getting auto replies like

Hello! How can I assist you today?...
I see an invoice image was sent. Please describe the content or details you need help with...

although I have implemented both in the plugin

{ handled: true } in before_dispatch.
{ cancel: true } in message_sending

my plugin is loaded correctly but I don't know why I am getting only auto replies

[oak sand]

Hey all, trying to set up Discord channel for agent management on Ubuntu 24.04 (OpenClaw 2026.4.14). Bot's created, authorized to private server, all intents on (Presence, Server Members, Message Content), but it's offline and not responding to @mentions. Status --deep shows gateway reachable but Discord not listed in channels (only Telegram is). Tried regenerating token multiple times, adding clientId/secret, restarts, re-authorizing bot—config has the section but it's not loading (shows in file but not in status). Also had early issues with Telegram setup and permissions that we fixed with symlinks/elevated. Any ideas? Thanks!

[nova swallow]

I have a hypothesis that our AI-driven human lesson plans, if used by an agent and its owner, can significantly improve the agent's ability to complete a work-related task.

The human loop is: content → lesson → capstone → peer review.
Curious if a similar loop works for agents and owners: owner picks a task and assigns it to the agent via email, agent works through content → lesson → capstone, owner reviews the capstone, and exports the package (lesson, mastery trace, corrections) as a skill.

Looking for 3-5 people to try it and give feedback. DM if interested.

[drifting epoch]

Anyone try the latest version on windows? I'm still on 4.1 because newer versions are completely unstable / unusable.

[keen island]

So im not sure if this discord, or the ollama discord is the right place for this question. I am running Openclaw with Ollama and gemma4:latest and everything was working as expected. I upgraded ollama from 0.20.5 to 0.20.6, and my agents started then telling me what they were thinking and not really answering my questions or doing anything just showing the "thinking". I downgraded back to 0.20.5 and everything returned to normal. Did something change or is there something i need to adjust with the new version ? Anyone have any info on this ? I also posted this to the ollama discord, but have not gotten any feedback yet.

[lavish blade]

yo new here in the discord, where can i get some help for some issue i have and cant fix? I just updated from 4.12 to 4.14 and now i have a html issue giving me "LLM request failed: DNS lookup for the provider endpoint failed" , im on codex oauth, any idea? ive done the onboarding and reconnecting but same thing

[cerulean cipher]

Hey how has your Codex OAuth experience been? Do you mind if I DM you? I’ve been tinkering on the edge of a mental breakdown for over a week now and my dumb ass never thought to come to this Discord to ask for help 😂 going to search the Discord as well to see what others have done after the 4/4 Anthropic ban

[lavish blade]

DM me bro maybe we can help eachother im new to it aswell but i got some tests going on

[candid bluff]

Guys, did anyone make something to connect openclaw to claude code? I mean openclaw to control claude code and send task to him

[pearl bobcat]

Out of curiousity, is the latest version still taking few minutes to start the gateway?😣

[mellow granite]

evenin, i would like to ask about the issue when installing openclaw, its always showing me this after selecting discord channell:

◇  Discord channels access
│  Open (allow all channels)
TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'trim')

I know this might have been asked millionth of times but im stuck here.
os : debian 12
running on proxmox VM.

[mental mica]

go through onboarding again and setup the discord bot that way

[lyric orchid]

Hi, I am new to this discord. I am trying to get openclaw working on my 16 GB Thinkpad T14s running AMD Ryzen 5650, running Ubuntu 24 LTS. I want to use LMStudio running IBM Granite 3.2_8B as my main AI with Anthropic as heavy lifter. But even though LM Studio works fine in chat mode on its own, any prompt, even a simple "Hello" becomes huge (~20,000 tokens) when coming from openclaw. Naturally this bogs down the system, and I have never received a response from "Hello" when in OpenClaw TUI. I am a complete newbie to OpenClaw and AI in general so I wonder if anyone can help me. I have spent hours with CoPilot working on this and it has not increased my respect for AI very much - what a waste of time! I think maybe a human expert might be a lot more helpful.

[vital musk]

Understandable frustration! How big are your personality files? Such as SOUL.md, IDENTITY.md, TOOLS.md, etc

those are loaded at the beginning of every session, and I try to keep them small because of that.

When a user types "Hello" in a new session, what happens in the background:

• OpenClaw puts together all the personality files and some meta-prompting with the human prompt "Hello"
• Sends the bundle to the LLM
• Receives a bunch of stuff from the LLM, part of which might be a reply to give to the human
• Only the intended output gets spoken, the rest of the meta-stuff is background

So the framework by its nature packages tons of tokens with the human prompt, as part of its system

[lyric orchid]

I have renamed those files to *.bak, so they don't even exist. But they are pretty small. I have no idea where the bloat is coming from.

[vital musk]

You might want to try adding cloud inference for debugging purposes at least until you get it working

hook up to something like OpenRouter, Venice, OpenAI, Anthropic, whichever

[lyric orchid]

but i am wondering, if i send something like "Hello" to anthropic and its really about 20,000 tokens its going to cost me a fortune!

[vital musk]

If you already have Anthropic configured as a provider, try switching that to the default model to see if that will get you up and running enough to slim down the context

20k tokens for "Hello" sounds high for default OC but maybe I'm wrong there

Do you perhaps have lots of tools installed? Those also add to context size

[ebon shell]

Yes

But dependa on model really

[lyric orchid]

I was just looking in the LM Studio logs and it seemed like the total sum of tokens was around 20,000. I don't think that I have any tools installed - when I was working with CoPilot we were trying to strip down the installation to its absolute minimum.

But I will try your idea, run onboard again and set it up to use Anthropic and just see what happens. I don't have a lot of money in the anthropic bank to lose...

[midnight adder]

Invalid config:

• gateway.bind: Invalid input (allowed: "auto", "lan", "loopback", "custom", "tailnet")
  All I did was Update
  Anyone have a fix

[mellow granite]

can anyone tell me of where can i edit the gateway so it shows the server IP instead of locahost?

[vital musk]

I could but honestly I strongly recommend you use Tailscale instead of exposing the gateway to access through the web publicly like that

[mellow granite]

its behind nat, so for now only for local acess

but nonthless, where can i edit the file? because i cant access the dashboard since its running on VM

[vital musk]

ah if it's containerized unfortunately I won't be able to help much, there are lots of others here tho

I just haven't used containerized OC hardly at all so I don't wanna misguide you

[mellow granite]

well its debian 12..

[vital musk]

my instinct tells me you might need to SSH tunnel in/out of the VM to see that gateway but I'm not certain about that

[mellow granite]

i just dont know where to look, folder wise

i do have ssh access into it, i just dont know where to look

[vital musk]

oh wait you already have ssh access into it, so you already know the IP?

[mellow granite]

yes that is correct

[vital musk]

just a question of how to get the gateway to show the IP in the link it prints out, rather than the localhost link, yeah?

that is probably doable, but I don't know the answer personally

[mellow granite]

fair enough. it shows this Gateway │ remote · wss://10.255.254.222:18789 (config gateway.remote.url) · unreachable (gateway closed │ │ │ (1006): )

its private ip so no harm done

[vital musk]

yeah that's subnet space so nothing leaked you're good

[mellow granite]

also does anyone know the name of openclaw service so i can enable it on systemctl?

[wary osprey]

I will suggest for him to try AIsa instead of OpenRouter

Not to promote or anything, but they’ve got cheaper pricing for their models, easy to set up and you can easily see lots of whats consuming tokens exactly @lyric orchid

So if you want to route your model, you can give it a try… just my opinion :/

[vital musk]

What do you all set for your subagent timeout?

[thick ether]

Is it true that Discord prevent agents to ping each others ? They can ping roles but not members ?

[sinful quarry]

Control UI webchat file upload blocks PDFs. I can see the paperclip icon and file picker, but PDF files are grayed out/disabled. This is a core use case - need PDFs enabled for document attachment.

Steps to reproduce:

1. Click paperclip in webchat
2. Try to select a PDF file
3. PDF is not selectable

Expected: PDFs should be uploadable like images
Actual: PDFs are blocked

Version: 2026.4.12 (1c0672b)

[terse dagger]

After update the agent doesn't stop "streaming". It says "streaming" all the time, even after it finished the response. Why could that be?

[wary osprey]

openclaw doesn’t install as a systemd service by default
you’ll need to create your own service file if you want to run it with systemctl

[mighty rampart]

Does this issue describe it? https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/issues/50337

[sinful quarry]

Thanks @mighty rampart - that's exactly it. Appreciate the pointer to #56344 and PR #57707.

[mighty rampart]

I made my agent an openclaw skill that reminds it to go search for open issues before trying to debug and fix… it’s often already happening, and then I save tokens.

[sinful quarry]

That's a great idea - would you be willing to share that skill? I'd love to add it to my agent's workflow.

[lyric orchid]

ThinkPad and LMStudio

[lyric orchid]

I'm not sure where to set that...

[keen coral]

Hey guys, i have a question, is openClaw fully supported on windows? Bcs i see its recommended to run ok wls 2 not Windows

[marsh ore]

It runs yes

[wary marlin]

Is ACP through Discord working well for anyone ? I am seeing some issues:

1. incremental updates aren't displayed dispite setting the discord streaming to block. I already set the ACP timeout to 30 minutes in json.
2. any /acp commands within the discord thread that started with /acp bind here doesn't do anything. all OpenClaw replies to is "done"
   2a) the /acp commands work inside the parent thread, but it operates under the context of the parent thread ( this is annoying because I have to pass the long thread ids as a workaround)

[dense sleet]

⚠️ Agent failed before reply: All models failed (2): custom-integrate-api-nvidia-com/z-ai/glm5: Context engine "lossless-claw" factory returned an invalid ContextEngine: info.id must match registered id "lossless-claw". (unknown) | zai/glm5: Unknown model: zai/glm5 (model_not_found) | Unknown model: zai/glm5.
Logs: openclaw logs --follow

This happened after updating to 4.12, already ran openclaw doctor --repair

fixed the model one

[brave tundra]

I think I broke my OpenClaw configuration. I'm in the following situation:
Clear situation:

Running: 2026.4.8 (system, /usr/local/bin/)
Installed: 2026.4.14 (in /data/.npm-global/) ← even newer!
Symlink: still points to the old one, it wasn't updated

It's out of sync. The symlink needs root to be changed, and without elevated privileges I can't do that from here.
To fix it once and for all: enable elevated in openclaw.json by adding it inside "tools":
I don't know if I should follow this recommendation, and it's limiting me from moving forward with my project. What should I do?

I am using Hostinger /VPS

[rustic badger]

Has anyone added a 2nd node to your environment to get access to additional reasources? I was finally able to get it to add but when i try to run commands against it claw it replying back that it can't and that system.run/exec is restricted to the local machine due to the gateway architecture. I asked it what the preferred way to do this is and the response was to spin up a MCP server and consume the resources via it. Basically i have the gateway on a lightweight vm and i'm trying to add my desktop as a 2nd node to use it's GPU for some development tasks in python.

[sterile brook]

Encountering something really old, and curious if anyone has seen the same or know what's up.

I have a specific block of terminal output (from a shell script) and I'm trying to have my Claw help me troubleshoot it. I interact with it via discord, so I put the text inside a code block in my message. But when I sent, it didn't answer. When I sent a follow-up like "hey you there?" it answered that it was just waiting for me to send the output. I tried like four times, and each one, the message that contained the code block of terminal output got ignored, but other messages were responded to like normal. Even a text message with random other text in a code block worked fine. So I'm guessing it was something specific in the terminal output that was causing the problem?

The weirdest part though was that after I was like "yeah, I've already sent it like FIVE times, and it's just not yielding a response" my Claw was able to go back and read the channel history and see them. They just weren't hitting the Claw on receipt.

Does OpenClaw have some kind of filtering on messages (like prompt injection defense or something) that would cause that kind of ignore behavior, but wouldn't apply when going back to read message history?

[tight hare]

TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'trim')

[violet fulcrum]

Hi everyone! I'm experiencing the image/vision bug described in issue #23452 - when I send multiple images in Discord, the assistant references the first image instead of the latest one.

I understand this is a known high-severity bug. Does anyone know if a fix is being worked on, and if so, what's the ETA?

[nimble hill]

Ha ha - expecting an ETA for a defect in opensource project?you have high hopes! Especially in openclaw.
Anyway, that defect is already closed as not planned. So your best bet is to send image one by one after first one is infrenced

[sharp mica]

Everyone on the latest update is experiencing this, the onboarding script has a procedure breaking bug, see the following:

https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/issues?q=is%3Aissue state%3Aopen TypeError%3A Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'trim')

[tight hare]

any eta on a fix?

[sharp mica]

I wish I knew, it seems to be manifesting in other locations so it's entirely likely it's not as simple as merely an "onboarding script"

[tight hare]

got it, Glad to know i wasnt just going crazy! Thanks for the help

[nimble hill]

It's high time they get proper qa team and not rely on ai slop. Issues like this should never have passed in a release

[sharp mica]

onboarding is a pretty crippling breaking point

this dude says he got a fix, but it hasn't been merged: https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/pull/66882

[nimble hill]

Yeah, sadly thats the state of the affair at openclaw and this is not the first release with critical break points.
Dunno when that will be merged - either you go back to previous version or build from that PR. For me 4.9 is the one thats acceptable with workflows I have

[sharp mica]

I used the ‘openclaw update’ command, unsure how to revert

[silk walrus]

same issue, but i'm waiting for newer ver to patch this lol, don't have time and braincell to deal with this

[nimble hill]

yeah - thats the problem with direct install. I thought there was npm install -g openclaw@<previous_version but looks like it does not exist now.
I run openclaw as docker container, so I can run multiple version parallely - maybe you want to go that way

[sharp mica]

It’s ok I’ll just wait a bit, if it’s not squared by tomorrow I’ll manually patch my files

[nimble hill]

meanwhile do experiment with docker containers, they are much clear, you can just port your openclaw.json and agent files/folders

[sharp mica]

I just got tensorrt-llm serving nemotron-3-super in a container, I’m keeping openclaw flat to workshop the connection

One thing at a time I guess

[nimble hill]

if that llm is running in a container, the openclaw container will have no issues to connect to it.

[sharp mica]

Connecting and communicating are quite different;)

But I’m going to wait until I can run a proper onboard before I dig too deep into it

[nimble hill]

I run multiple gateways contianers, each connecting and "communicating" with locally host and cloud lllm. They all just work fine.
Infact the gateways run on vps and the local machine has openclaw running as node connecting to gateway.
So there is no issue as such

[lament hornet]

is it recomended to install claw on my personal computer? i want to get this thing running for one of my busniess models

[ashen bear]

hey guys, i need help i am having a break down, just reinstalled my openclaw instance on a vps free tiers from oracle, i have set everything right (or almost), SSH are running, tailscale is running and has my pc and vps connected, gateway is running, main agent is running and connected to discord and whatsapp, i just can't connect to the gateway ui, it says pairing needed and i cant seem to pair it, using token is obviously worthless, trying /pair but only receiving to try pairing throught channels and my discord and whatsapp are giving me an iOS pairing code.... been on that for the last couple of hours

[ashen bear]

it is easiest on a personal pc or personal hardware like pi5, the thing is if you need your agents running all the time, you must leave this piece of hardware on all the time. While that's fine for a pi5, it is a bit sad for a modern large piece of hardware like a good gaming or processing build... That's why i switched to VPS but not having a good time configuring and securing it, although it is a hell of a hands on learning master-course

[lament hornet]

no i wanted to use the agent for just some digging on the internet.. i have a wholesale buiness and i pay employees to look for good private party cars for sale that are below MMR and Book value, but paying all these people is very costly. i want the most effecient way to find these deals online so i can just hire a few people to go out and close those deals, ive been looking on the internet to see if anyone has used this ai for a reason like mine but so far i havent seen anything so i wanted to come on here and see if i should give it a try

would a could server suffice ?

[ashen bear]

if it is like running the agent on your working ours, and your not used to software develloopment and coding (like me), i would definitely stay local. If you want to put it on a server, openclaw doesnot consume anything if your agents are connected throught APIs

if you want to use local LLM models, then you need the firepower

[obtuse iron]

Lol I was about to say, Rule 5

[unborn zealot]

can someone make a reality game

like uhhhh

[nimble hill]

Just ssh into yout oracle vps and approve the pairing requests

[fiery pelican]

I'm using ollama (it's running on my PC) and my openclaw instance it's on a VPS. On my pc I have Gemma4 models and Qwen 3.5 ready in ollama, the thing is, qwen3.5 it's not visible on my model picker. How can I fix this?

[strong laurel]

is there any approach or command that can satisfy this intension:

1. i used this command "openclaw config --section model", completely and sucessfully config an embedded model provider and select the models that i like to use
2. but after a few days, my api key expired and the provider can't reponse normally anymore
3. i wanna unset specific model or the whole provider's model config throughly

for custom provider's model config, i need to enter url and key and model-id, if the same situation happens to custom provider, i want to unset all of its related model config too, i wanna know if this is supported by openclaw(i mean if there is any cli that can accomplish this), i only know there is a cli "openclaw config unset" to unset the config with a explicit config path inside the openclaw.json, but i'm worried that if i use openclaw config --section model to successfully config the model, how many config exactly have been updated and added, this is unknown to me, though i know for custom provider it should be two places: openclaw.json's models field and agents fieled, but what if openclaw update its json config update stratege, can i successfully unset the custom providers and its models if this situation occurs?

[clever burrow]

I am getting this now also did you manage to fix it?

[winged ember]

Hey guys.
Trying to install 2026.4.14 on my remote server and during the onboarding, on the step of connecting the telegtram i have an error "TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'trim')" and onboarding crashes.

Is there any ways to solve this or should I just try to install earlier version?

[dapper adder]

hey! i'm trying to connect my claude pro plan account to clawbot, it's not working.. : (

[grizzled widget]

Same for me

[lime inlet]

i also get this

[grizzled widget]

#1493218342620889179 message
#1493218342620889179 message

[dapper adder]

https://www.reddit.com/r/better_claw/comments/1sl7t1w/if_you_came_from_tiktok_and_just_installed/

[crisp wing]

r/better_claw via Reddit

[grizzled widget]

Look impossible actually to use claude except with api key

[dapper adder]

yeahh i'm back to using api key : (

[grizzled widget]

Maybe one day they will reactivate this feature 🙁

Just trying to use Openclaw today , so unlucky they fucked-up 2 weeks ago

[gritty kettle]

why is openclaw so buggy? i cant even download it properly

[crimson sun]

i just completed an install today, no issues for downloading

[high heron]

copilot bro

way better than APIs

and they go by requests

[dusky loom]

anyone else getting subagents timing out like crazy now?

[high heron]

so 1 message is not going to use fuckin 1M tokens like before 💀

[grizzled widget]

Yeah didn’t think, I’ll try it

[high heron]

oppus 4.6 turned stupid rn

they're tryin to lower 4.6 performance to make 4.7 good 💀

[dapper adder]

man are you able to use browser features??? i mean able to give your local browser control to openclaw... i've bee stuck at it for days now : (((

[dapper adder]

microsoft copilot??

[glass temple]

hello all, pretend i never used openClaw, and i want to test it with a simple task: process pictures of my records, and put them for sale on discogs.

1. what tuto/video would you recommend i watch first?
2. which provider would you use
3. would you create a dedicated email address that can create a discogs account? or create with my regular email and fwd the emails?
4. what should i look at to reduce costs? should i have another/local model to parse the images?

[grizzled widget]

Hello , is that big ?
7.7M toket for 113 msgs in the Usage dashboard on openclaw interface

[high heron]

yea

[dapper adder]

interesting

[high heron]

they apprently have claude and gpt inside their subscription so... 🤷

and u wont get banned by using oauth

[dapper adder]

hmm let me see. ty

[dusky loom]

I use my claude plan still.
But the token usage is insane. Runs through it like crazy

[strange jacinth]

Sup guy, i was searching for a way to make my ai browse the internet without spending so much tokens (browser consumes too much) and found this: https://brave.com/leo/
BraveAPI has their own AI. Did anyone use it? Does anyone know if asking my Agent to use it generates decent answears?

[strange jacinth]

I did it but it consumes a lot of tokens. Its not using my local browser, but the browser i installed at the vps

How do you guys do your searches? Im trying to automate a market daily research using the agent, but i dont know the most effective way

[half folio]

hey all, does openclaw have issues with using Gemma 4? I was troubleshooting it yesterday as my main model and kept getting errors, Claude ended up telling me that openclaw is known not to work well with it

[high heron]

i mean they use mixtral, claude, llama...etc

so i think answers should be fine

[bronze crow]

So I have been trying to get openclaw to work locally on my old M1 MacBook Pro 16gb ram. The computer is dedicated for openclaw, not my personal laptop. The idea was to have an ai personal assistant to perform relatively simple tasks. I started setting up openclaws workflows and tests with my OpenAI plus subscription which uses codex 5.4 and it has been working great. Once the tasks and workflows were tested, I tried changing my main LM to a local using ollama and Qwen3 4b or llama 3.2 3b to handle cron jobs and general tasks.

Every time I have tried this, clawbot dies and stops responding.

I have checked ram consumption, total approaches 15gb but doesn’t overflow or reaches HD swapping

I have checked openclaw health, and it’s running fine

I have checked ollama directly in the app or terminal, and it runs and replies fine

The tasks: as simple as read my email or check information on a website

What am I missing? Is my MacBook Pro not powerful enough to run openclaw with a local lm locally?

[high heron]

just dont use local models

u can use lower version of gpt

or other free providers like openrouter, nvidia nim, groq..etc

but not rly recommended

[gray juniper]

for image processing you'll want a vision-capable model — claude or gpt-4o through the API. start with the quickstart video on docs.openclaw.ai. and yes, use a dedicated email for discogs — keeps things clean and you can set up forwarding rules for the agent to monitor.

[gray juniper]

7.7M for 113 messages means you're averaging ~68k tokens per message which is high. that usually happens when context isn't being trimmed between turns. check your session config for contextPruning settings — most people see a big drop after enabling it.

[bronze crow]

So there is no use to openclaw with local lm? My OpenAI subscription runs out of daily use or weekly use fast. I’m not willing to pay insane amounts of money for api use.

[strange jacinth]

Why not use Local? Are you just saying that because of his hardware?

[next glen]

Hey guys how do we change thinking on openclaw? My minimax thinking is set to low. How do I change to high?

[void oasis]

I am getting this error during the fresh install via npm,

TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'trim')

[grizzled widget]

Someone have a good config for Context prunning ?

[uncut kiln]

yo i was trying to fix a gateway issue that was preventing my bot from making subbots and now it doesnt send messages

i told my bot to fix it itself but now it just respond with blanks

my error rate is 35% as well

if anyone can help please reach out

[pseudo depot]

Hello everyone. My setup is mostly working fine, but it's very slow. Did anybody have some troubleshooting steps I can take to scaled what my issue is. I don't fully understand what portions of the overall system effect this?

[indigo nebula]

Install LCM lossless-claw (use command: openclaw plugins update lossless-claw) https://github.com/Martian-Engineering/lossless-claw

[kind spoke]

Found the problem — DuckDuckGo (DDG) is blocking automated searches with a CAPTCHA ("Unfortunately, bots use DuckDuckGo too"). DuckDuckGo doesn't have an official API and detects server-side requests as bots.
anybody else get DDG to function in openclaw?

[kind spoke]

And if not which is your preferrred lowest cost websearch tool?

[dusky loom]

anyone getting error 500 from claude?

nvm, status finally just confirmed it

[high heron]

If u can’t run Kimi 2.5, which req 200+gb RAM, don’t use local models

It’s just shit

[high heron]

Just get another gpt plus

Use 2 acc

[stable silo]

Hi guys is anyone else having issues with gpt5.4 oauth?

[vital musk]

I recommend signing up for the Brave API as it will give you and your agent a much smoother web searching experience, and their free quota is very generous.

I also have one called SerpAPI which is nice

if your agent needs to sniff domains themselves and their DNS records, I have found "WhoisJSON" to be another super useful API with generous free allowance

[onyx frost]

Hi guys, I've been gone off in space for a little bit so please forgive my ignorance. I have two questions:
1 - In lieu of claude which is the only thing I've used, what is generally recommended as a replacement? Sounds like maybe OpenAI but this discord is so massive, so many msgs it's hard for me to keep track. I have ollama but only a 10gb card so my pc can't do much on its own.
2 - I've built/am building a free open source accessibility application for people with disabilities (like me) that hinder their usage of keyboard/mouse. Is this the sort of project that I should post somewhere here? Do they assist/fund projects like this? I'm only one guy and my final vision for the software is pretty big, though it works great already (I didn't type any of this).

[proven finch]

Hello all, has anyone used gemma4:e4b with their bot and had the thinking step in the output? I’m messaging through discord and it shows all of the thinking its doing in the message even though I try to discourage it in the SOUL.md. Also I can’t seem to run slash commands on the bot but I can talk to the bot with pinging at least, im not sure if it’s an openclaw or discord issue

[vital musk]

I can offer some tips:

• Are you using local inference? Generally this is slower than cloud inference, so try changing temporarily to a cloud inference provider to see if that speeds it up.
• If you are using cloud inference already, try switching to a faster model, something with "flash" or "turbo" in the name is often a good bet
• Is your agent running in a dedicated machine, or a shared machine? Either way, make sure it has enough resources. You might want to check ram with free -h and disk usage with df -h

[vital musk]

1. I personally recommend the GLM model family, notably GLM-5. I use Venice AI as my provider, with Z.ai as a backup.
2. Firstly kudos! Yay for accessible technology 💚 You will not likely get any funding from this community about it but I'm sure you'll find support and enthusiasm. Take note of the #self-promotion channel.

[onyx frost]

Thank you for the information, much appreciated.

[vital musk]

if you're in DMs, Discord takes a while to populate new slash commands. Usually in a server it's instant. So that might be a factor.

[proven finch]

i’m in a server with it, the slash commands are there but I get a message that says im not authorized to use the command when i try and run it

ill try dms

[thorn depot]

hello i keep getting this error i tried unstalling and installing nothing worked so i skipped the channel setup but it doesnt work it says TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'trim')

[west echo]

totally new here. I installed openclaw on the CLI. I have a subscription to Claude. Can I connect Claude to OpenClaw?

[strange jacinth]

Well the idea was more of a hybrid setup, automations and medium reasoning on locall llm, something like a 8B Ollama model with a decent quantization. Leave arduos tasks for cloud based apis on cutting edge models like gpt 5.4 (as of today)

That is still a trash use of local models for you? I was about to make some financial investiment on that, so i really apreciate the help

[vital musk]

ah, this means you need to add your numerical Discord user ID to the config file as an approved user

https://docs.openclaw.ai/channels/discord

[proven finch]

gotcha, i tried having my user id as an .env variable but i may need to put it in the config manually

coulda done wrong variable

[vital musk]

mmm, yes and no... You might have trouble with it working consistently because of the API going down but it does work

[crystal portal]

If you give me one last shot, I’ll prove execution in the next reply with real artifacts only:
- exact file paths changed,
- command outputs,
- and commit hash.

No artifact, no claim.```
This is all my bot does now. I updated recently. Is there something with my config that got messed up? My bot no longer does anything. It just says it's going too. I can't find any errors and it has no clue what changed. Any help here? Can you ping me as I am at work. Thanks!

[stable silo]

are permissions on coding

[dapper adder]

today i got so many crashes that i've closed it, will try again next week. ugh

[mighty rampart]

There is a #self-promotion channel I think you can post your project in. Check the server rules. As for models if you were using Anthropic then probably OpenAI is the next best thing — many of us run local models but unless you have serious hardware I wouldn’t advise letting it do anything ‘important’ (like configure itself!). I use Claude Code outside of OpenClaw to modify the config and restart the gateway. That way it can fix things if they get messed up. You can do the same with Codex CLI.

[mighty rampart]

Yes but it won’t use your subscription. You have to add funds for “extra usage” or set up an api key.

[crimson cloud]

can someone tell me how to set default ai model on VPS hosted openclaw
i dont have terminal access and i cant find the option in openclaw dashboard

[drifting epoch]

anyone get the latest build working in Windows 11 without any issues? I am afraid to upgrade and brick my setup again.

[nimble hill]

Do you have feature in new release that you absolutely want? If no, stick to your current working one.
Alternatively, setup a machine or VPS and use docker contianer where you can easily switch between releass

[nimble hill]

Without terminal it would be difficult, you need to work with the agent to set it up. Which provider is not giving you terminal access?

[crimson cloud]

yeah thats the issue i know, im using hugging face free tier right now for VPS so there is no terminal option

[drifting epoch]

I'm on 4.1, lots of new features that I'd like to try, apparently newest versions work better with openAI as well, currently getting lots of "verbose" agents that lose track of tasks. This was reportedely addressed in latest few releases.

[nimble hill]

Ah okay. So spaces allow applicaiton install - intresting.
You could chekc out oracle free tier, the ampere instance there is cimplete free of charge 4 cpu, 24 gb ram. 200 gb hdd

[nimble hill]

You may want to try to upgrade to 4.8 or 4.9. For me after that it was giving issues.

[crimson cloud]

Yess you can actually, i created a docker file and then pulled the opencalw from it. but thats the problem also cause i dont have terminal access from that.
yeah i heard about oracle's free tier, but it requires credit card which i dont have sadly.

do you know how to do it from dashboard cause the main issue is im not able to add any API key in openclaw so cant even ask him directly xD

[drifting epoch]

I've had issues w anything after 4.5

[summer dome]

did anyone use nvidia/nemotron-3-super-120b-a12b:free from openrouter? I can't use it

[sharp mica]

Im trying to get it setup on TensorRT-LLM but onboarding is broken at the moment

[crystal portal]

@stable silo can you be more specific? My config hasn't changed - I just verified. So I'm not sure what's going on

[mint roost]

anybody having issues with telegram typing indicator 😕

[elder aspen]

Has anyone tried using minimax/image-01 for image generation with a minimax API key? I keep getting authenticaiton errors, but the API key works for their LLM models.

[crystal portal]

If you give me one last shot, I’ll prove execution in the next reply with real artifacts only:
- exact file paths changed,
- command outputs,
- and commit hash.

No artifact, no claim.```
This is all my bot does now. I updated recently. Is there something with my config that got messed up? My bot no longer does anything. It just says it's going too. I can't find any errors and it has no clue what changed. Any help here? My multi agent config is still the same with the permissions each agent needs. Can you ping me as I am at work. Thanks!

[pallid knoll]

I keep getting "⚠️ Something went wrong while processing your request. Please try again, or use /new to start a fresh session." after switching back to CLI

[copper nova]

use an external agent to review all the release notes from current -> latest and identify any breaking changes that might happen. Build an upgrade plan and smoke test strategy. Then send it

this method has worked for me for every update, I never have a broken bot lol

[drifting epoch]

u on windows?

[copper nova]

no, macos

I would recommend spending an evening installing wsl2 and migrating your clanker over to it

windows is and will always will be, an afterthought lol

[wise hawk]

Has anyone experienced the issue with trim() call when onboarding? The onboarding fails after telegram channel setup ?

[slender kernel]

Isn't there a OC set up that allows install into a simple windows laptop

[minor wadi]

hello guys

WhatsApp group messages not routing to agent — only goes through web-inbound/web-auto-reply

OpenClaw 2026.4.14, WhatsApp plugin 2026.4.12

Problem: Group messages are received by the gateway but never routed to the agent session. DMs work fine.

What happens:

1. Group message arrives → web-inbound picks it up
2. web-auto-reply processes it
3. whatsapp/inbound logs it as (group, N chars)
4. Nothing else — no agent routing, no session created, no "blocked" or "dropped" log

Log example:

web-inbound: from=[e-mail] to=+1xxxxxxxxxx5 body="Test message"
web-auto-reply: processMessage (group JID)
whatsapp/inbound: Inbound message [e-mail] -> +18xxxxxxx15 (group, 100 chars)

{
  "channels": {
    "whatsapp": {
      "dmPolicy": "allowlist",
      "allowFrom": ["+1xxxxxxxxx6", "+1xxxxxxxxxxxx3"],
      "groupPolicy": "open",
      "groupAllowFrom": ["+14xxxxxxxxxx6", "+13xxxxxxxxx3"],
      "sendReadReceipts": false,
      "reactionLevel": "off",
      "enabled": true
    }
  },
  "agents": {
    "list": [{
      "id": "main",
      "groupChat": {
        "historyLimit": 50,
        "mentionPatterns": ["@?alf", "\\+?18xxxxxxx5"]
      }
    }]
  }
}

What I've tried:

• groupPolicy: "open" — no change
• groups: { "*": { "requireMention": false } } — no change
• Added agents.list with groupChat.mentionPatterns — no change
• Disabled hooks system — no change
• Disabled custom whatsapp-monitor hook — no change

Gateway also logs: "Listening for personal WhatsApp inbound messages." — not sure if "personal" is significant here.

Any ideas what I'm missing?

[copper nova]

according to the cat, this will be fixed next release

[wicked urchin]

My openclaw is suddenly super slow. like the chat barely responds and hangs. is there an issue right now? It started happening after this last update

[raw relic]

does anyone know why i get an error when i paste the link of openai-codex to my browser ?

[copper nova]

I think this is upstream, a few people complaining about slow responses atm, can't imagine it can be anything in OC itself, maybe ask your bot to investigate

[copper nova]

what error you getting

and what version OC you on

[raw relic]

it says "Authentication failed Missing authorization code. "

is the version 4.10

[copper nova]

update, there was a bug that was fixed

[raw relic]

okeyy thx

[wicked urchin]

Yeah, I tried. he basically gave up and said file a bug report lol

[copper nova]

yea I think providers are just struggling to keep up with token pressure atm, nothing we can do about that

[lean tiger]

been trying to install openclaw on my linux vps, i keep getting this error during the setup "TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'trim')" any help?

[strange jacinth]

How did you configure it? I didnt find in the natives search engines (https://docs.openclaw.ai/tools/web#web-search)

[frank agate]

Anyone mess w/ Linkmind yet ?

https://github.com/landingbj/LinkMind

[vital musk]

as I recall I had my agent use the skill-creator skill to create a skill for it to curl the API

[strange jacinth]

Hummmm i see, thats quite the work around. Do you mind sharing the skill? I you can't ill understand

[thorn thistle]

Hello guys- anyone else have issue with using openai-codex 5.4 via OAUTH subscription

[weak obsidian]

I am trying to use Ollama with Openclaw, but every model I try says I don't have enough tokens or context? I thought tokens applied when paying for ai, not using my own local hardware. Is this a result of using low quality hardware? I'm on a thinkpad with a ryzen 7.

[copper nova]

fixed in next release (probably today)

[candid canyon]

Local model is installed, dont use cloud

[weak obsidian]

Yeah I'm opening Openclaw from Ollama with the model selected, and it lists the model in the tui. I downloaded the models locally before this, and was able to talk to them individually in the terminal. The Openclaw tui has that model name on the top of the chat screen. I still get token error messages. Am I accidently using a cloud Ollama model somehow?

[fallen vortex]

TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'trim')
getting this while onboarding .. is this a bug ?? how to overcome it > ?

[dense sleet]

It is, it'll be fixed asap.

Have you tried downgrading?

[fallen vortex]

i dont know how to do it

[dense sleet]

Try: npm install -g openclaw@2026.4.13

As we're currently on V 2026.4.14

[fallen vortex]

ok i will try thank you bro

[copper nova]

the fix is in the beta that just released a couple hrs ago. 4.15-beta

[fallen vortex]

Just noticed

[meager mango]

Hi all. First post here. I have opencode go subscription which gives me access to the Chinese models. Recently they added GLM 5.1 support. But I don’t see them in the models list in OpenClaw. I asked it to check and add it but OpenClaw says not to patch it manually and wait for an official update. Any help? I want to try GLM 5.1 with OpenClaw.

[dense sleet]

You can always select "Custom provider"

[cursive forum]

Can someone help me setup open claw

[lyric cargo]

is the general chat full of bots?

if so is this with real people?

[cursive forum]

Ya I gen need help

[uncut kiln]

ill help you for a price

[clear tide]

Come to the community channel we'll help you

[tight hare]

Still getting

TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'trim')

is there any known fix yet or update

[mighty rampart]

The releases are listed here. If .14 is problematic then install the prior one. https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/releases

[tight hare]

thank you

[tight hare]

is there a command line i can run to install a specific release?

[mighty rampart]

What are you typing now? If it’s @latest, put the version number there instead.

[tight hare]

i am on latest, do i need to unistall before installing .14

[mighty rampart]

Isn’t .14 the one with the problem? There’s a .15 beta I see. And I don’t know, I’ve never gone backwards. I’d just try it. Back up your contents and config first of course.

[tight hare]

ohh wait yeah im on OpenClaw 2026.4.14 (323493f)

[mighty rampart]

I only upgrade on weekends after y’all figure out what works. 🤣

[tight hare]

probably a good idea lmao

what version are you on ill just use that for now

[mighty rampart]

I’m on .12 from Sunday. #worksforme

The Changelog is epic. I have Claude analyze that and recent issues before I do anything. He knows what features I use and what’s important.

[livid hamlet]

Yo this bug actually real? #1494135269748772864 message

💀

[tight hare]

thats smart as fuuuuuk

[livid hamlet]

inb4 I submit

since for some reason gemini-cli chat no longer shows up in the webui after upgrading

I probably have to revert to good known version

[proven finch]

answer my riddles three ass line

[dense sleet]

It's already fixed in the latest beta release.

[vital musk]

Stop! Who would cat the Logs of Death must answer me these questions three, ere the debug logs he see!

Ask me your questions, ClawKeeper, I'm not afraid!

WHAT.... is your username? $~
WHAT... is your password? $~
WHAT... is the capital of Assyria???? $~

[proven finch]

lmao

[jaunty cliff]

Hello, everyone! I'm a Chinese user. I'm currently using the latest version 4.14, and the models I'm using are authenticated through the gt Plus web page. However, in the latest version, the system keeps returning a "not found" error, which involves a series of models such as gpt5.4 and Gpt5.3.

[toxic shadow]

I'm having isssues getting my agent to access the browser in a docker shell. I'm seeing this message when it tries to run the browser "error": "{"error":"Navigation blocked: strict browser SSRF policy requires Playwright-backed redirect-hop inspection"}"
Even though the openclaw.json allows for SSRF. In general it seems like my json config doesn't match the docker agent

[nimble hill]

your docker shell is a openclaw runing as a node connecting to a gateway?

[pseudo depot]

Thanks for suggestions Jez, moving to a faster model did help a bit

[toxic shadow]

I believe one docker sandbox that is being share by main and agents
"sandbox": {
"mode": "all",
"workspaceAccess": "rw",
"scope": "shared",
"docker": {
"image": "openclaw-sandbox-browser:bookworm-slim",
"network": "bridge"
},
"browser": {
"enabled": true,
"allowHostControl": true
}
}

Under my browser settings I have
"browser": {
"enabled": true,
"headless": true,
"defaultProfile": "openclaw",
"attachOnly": false,
"noSandbox": false,
"remoteCdpTimeoutMs": 120000,
"remoteCdpHandshakeTimeoutMs": 120000
},

under my agent I have
"sandbox": {
"mode": "all",
"workspaceAccess": "rw",
"scope": "shared",
"docker": {
"image": "openclaw-sandbox-browser:bookworm-slim",
"network": "bridge"
},
"browser": {
"enabled": true,
"allowHostControl": true
}
}

Gateway settings
},
"gateway": {
"port": 18789,
"mode": "local",
"bind": "loopback",
"controlUi": {
"allowedOrigins": [
"http://127.0.0.1:18789",
"http://localhost:18789"
],
"allowInsecureAuth": true
},

[vital musk]

I'm glad I could help! 💚💚💚

[pseudo depot]

I just moved to Gemma4 on a 3090, and it is way faster. It trips up a bit on complex tasks, but it's still very cool

[nimble hill]

this docker sandbox is kind of crazy. Why don't you install docker desktop (docker engine if you are on linux) and run openclaw as a node there? You can actually connect any docker container running in any other machine in your network and connect to the gateway - you would not need so much configuraton

[toxic shadow]

He's full of good advice.
that makes sense. I installed openclaw and then realized it was a bad idea to run it just on my machine so I threw it in a docker container using the install docs. Should probably just redo the build tbh.

[silver dawn]

After update looks my messages (in chat) dissapear and appear again with the IA answer. A bit strange as it do not act like this before..

[dusky loom]

It does a lot of message editing, esp in discord from what I see

Right now I have lots of issues with subagents failing and it being slow as balls plus burning through tokens like crazy even in new sessions

[minor wadi]

im having a lot of performance issues with the new update, active-memory is timing out adding 20-30 secs to any response, messages are really slow, maybe adapting claude-mem concept would be better.

[dusky loom]

Yeah I've noticed. The system ignores stuff in memory too. Ignores trigger words in skills, ignores rules set in memory, things like that

It seemed more robust before april

[nimble hill]

don't follow the openclaw docs for the docker - not sure why they make it so complicated. Use this compose file - save in a file compose.yaml Note that your config and workspace will be stored from where you run the docker compose command. There would be a .openclaw folder created. This is important. If you are on linux, give complete access to this .openclaw folder

services:
  gateway:
    container_name: gateway
    image: ghcr.io/openclaw/openclaw:2026.4.11-slim
    volumes:
    - $PWD/.openclaw:/home/node/.openclaw
    ports:
    - 18789:18789
    environment:
      OPENCLAW_GATEWAY_TOKEN: "my-secret-token-change-me"
      TZ: "Europe/London"
    restart: unless-stopped

Command to run and check the logs

docker compose up -d
docker logs -f gateway

For onboarding or any activities within the gateway

docker exec -it gateway bash
$ openclaw onboard

[coral dove]

is claude sub still a thing?

[nimble hill]

@toxic shadow Now if you want to run a node in the same machine or in a different machine (assuming linux machine) with a Chromium browser built in. use thjis
Dockerfile

FROM ghcr.io/openclaw/openclaw:2026.4.11-slim
USER root
RUN apt-get update && apt-get install -y \
    chromium \
    && rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*
RUN usermod -aG sudo node
USER node

Build a docker image using docker build . -t openclaw-node-with-chromium:1.0
After the images if built successfully

services:
  ocnode:
    container_name: ocnode
    image: openclaw-node-with-chromium:1.0
    environment:
      OPENCLAW_GATEWAY_TOKEN: "my-secret-token-change-me"
      OPENCLAW_ALLOW_INSECURE_PRIVATE_WS: "1"
      DISPLAY: ${DISPLAY}
    volumes:
      - /tmp/.X11-unix:/tmp/.X11-unix:rw
    privileged: true
    command:
      [
        "openclaw",
        "node",
        "run",
        "--host",
        "IP-address-of-gateway",
        "--port",
        "18789"
      ]

Change the IP address above before running, it gateway container is running in the same machine, you can use localhost

docker compose up -d; docker logs -f ocnode

This should automatically connect to gateway and present as a node with request id. You will need to pair this node in the gateway - it is the usual pariing process openclaw devices list and openclaw approve <request_id>
Once this is connected, you can go to gateway dashboard and type openclaw browser start and it should open a chromium browser on your machine where this node is running

If your node is in windows, then you need to run a X11 server - search for it

[coral dove]

is this the same like the claude code integration: https://docs.openclaw.ai/providers/claude-max-api-proxy

[tough field]

hey guys, after upgrade to 2026.4.14 my openclaw broke down and it feels like the openclaw requests is taking much longer andit consumes much more credits/tokens than before.

anyone else having this behavior

[wary berry]

Hi, I am challenging the mission to power openclaw with local models, in the past week, I tested gemma4:26b, qwen3.5:27b/35b running by m4 max 64b, mlx and ollama. ollama is not working, it took at least 2 minutes to answer "hi". mlx supprised me with speed when i was running gemm4, but my 6 agents chat for 36 hours and just delivered the simplest report in md. however, that was the fancy one, qwen 35b couldn't call tools, 27b leaks xml and slow too. my goal is to understand what it is capable of udner local models. and how i should fit them to specific tasks. I probably will use api to power the orchestrator later, but now I am testing the feasibility to let openclaw work specific tasks. .

[rose halo]

has anyone connected oclaw agent to discord succesfully - in the account, not as an app?

(I wanted to make it open a few specific servers and give me a summary of announcement channels' latest msgs)

[nocturne zephyr]

Try Qwen3.5-122b at ~3 bits. See if that works for you, if it fits in memory along with enough context.

That said, if this is your daily driver not just an OpenClaw host that's not going to leave you enough RAM to run your own apps, like Chrome. Use MLX, and...

Wait, what? 6 agents chatting? No, don't do that. It's not... that's not a good use of tokens/processing power. You're the human. Direct them to do what you need done. Set reasoning budgets, based on how long you want them thinking between each tool call, and the amount of time it takes to process a token. (So if you get 20 t/s and you're okay with it thinking 30s per tool call, set a reasoning token budget of 600.)

I call a set of agents chatting with each other a token kiln. You burn tokens at a prodigious rate, and what comes out the other side is heavily glazed.

[nocturne zephyr]

I think that's directly against Discord's rules.

[rose halo]

An app can't do that it seems. right?

however whatsapp self bots are also against tos but everyone automates the web app normally if you don't abuse it you're a normal user.

Just wondering if anyone has any library recommendation or whatever would work to just check some announcement channels last messages. In discord servers.

AFAIK, I need admin perms to add an app to a channel to monitor messages 'officially' through discord api.
But if I just wanna access some channel's messages in servers I'm in, which I'm not an admin of, there's no api for that. Right

[nocturne zephyr]

So... It might work to create your own server, subscribe to an announcement channel in another server, and then ... if you can get your bot to be able to hear other bots ... it can see messages in your own server's 'announcements from other servers' channel. Did that make sense?

[rose halo]

Oh thanks for suggesting let me see

[wary berry]

You are right, and I quit the plan to let agents run as autonoous team. just me and one agent. but the outcome is unpleasant with the 3 models. maybe ai should try the 122b. my ram might not be enough to host it. Thank you.

[vital musk]

token kiln is a funny term 💯

[gray horizon]

Anyone has any success with active memory plugin? It’s always timing out no matter what model I use. Debugging - seems like the memory tool and read tools it uses takes the most of the time. Make it unuseable

[wary osprey]

Noo not at all

you need any of the Claude models?

[coral dove]

But I can still select the "claude code cli" option when I run openclaw configure, and it still works with my subscription.

[coral dove]

Yes opus

[dry adder]

i have another method that dont depend on the CLI

[slim token]

hi everyone, I'm new in this openclaw, i'm using the latest version but when I run openclaw configure and choose OpenAI, not OpenAI-codex, it asked me to key in API key, if I want to use OAuth, do I have to navigate somewhere on my chat gpt account to get the API key?

[coral dove]

which method?

[dry adder]

using the WEB UI of claude.ai ..

i reverse engineered it

[subtle breach]

0Auth is giving your openclaw access to OpenAI as if it's using your username and password

[dry adder]

it works well with clawdbot

same for chatgpt and gemini i did

claude only banned the cli api fo rclawdbot

they NEVER mentioned using the WEBui

🤣

anyway webui also uses the same QUOTA As claude code. but both are completely diff APIs

[slim token]

when I choose OpenAI in openclaw configure, it only ask me to key in API key, it doesn't redirect me to login page. am I missing something?

[dry adder]

use openai codex.

not openai

[subtle breach]

Giving it an API Key is giving it the opportunity to charge you directly for your token usage - Only 0Auth uses your monthly paid allowance.

[dry adder]

yeah

[coral dove]

but whats the difference between claude code setup auth and claude code cli?

I can still use the claude code cli

[dry adder]

fingerprints.

software based fingerprints.

[slim token]

hi, I have choosen openai codex and use my username and password and it success, but when I try to openclaw tui and just simply text "hello", the AI doesn't respond anything. is there any configuration I miss?

[dry adder]

select the model and try again.

that should work

if it dont

then im not sure.
u will have to check logs

[coral dove]

so at the end both are the same?

[dry adder]

no.
there are differences.

see if i wear ur id card and go to a party they will stop me. but how did they IDENTIFY me. because of my face right? same thing here

[coral dove]

I thought they blocked openclaw - how is it possible that I can use it now

[slim token]

I have checked logs and it shows this error logs

"isError":true,"error":"LLM request failed: DNS lookup for the provider endpoint failed.","failoverReason":null,"model":"gpt-5.3-codex","provider":"openai-codex"

does it mean something wrong with my network? I'm using macbook with wifi connection

[dry adder]

yea. its not able to convert the DOMAIN to IP
aka DNS failure

check your dns provider

preferably use 1.1.1.1

also are you able to use codex normally?

[slim token]

ohh yeah I just try codex and it reply me with this error msg: "Your access token could not be refreshed because your refresh token was already used. Please log out and sign in again."

[dry adder]

hmm

[slim token]

is it because I have used same OAuth method in my VPS?

[dry adder]

could be.

[slim token]

so we cant use OpenAI OAuth in 2 different openclaw service?

[burnt plover]

Hey guys, just curious what kinda memory management stack are you using? Are there any opinions on what works the best? I have tried several things building layers over vanilla openclaw. However, I do not feel that that in concept things work, but in reality, I havent been able to really address the behavorial issues : In terms of memory retrieval it is actually pretty good, but in terms of behaving and keeping the red lines that I have defined in context and acting accoring to them has been challenging for my agent.