users-helping-users

[vestal swallow]

In facture I wanna make daily briefing alert agent with openclaw.

[rose halo]

configure your oclaw gateway to network mode: Auto

and test

also

[royal beacon]

Okay, thank you.

[rose halo]

try telling it to web fetch the IP for the website if ur using domain just to test /debug

[lean delta]

hi guys, new here, I'm a test automation developer at work and as a hobby I have a mac mini m4, and 4 raspberry for ads removing and surveillance made by me 5 years ago and made it works with the cat ignoring this year with chatgpt, I'm trying some local LLMs with llama and llama cpp now....I have some questions for you...
1)is it ok to install openclaw on raspberry 5 16gb with a local llm on mac mini m4 or its just too slow so its more better install everything on mac mini m4? (Its not my main windows pc, I bought the Mac mini for llm and hobby)
2)is an llm run on Mac mini m4 sufficent for openclaw to works fine or its not enough? Mac mini 24gb ram
3)which llm u think its better for openclaw to use, and its ok to have just one or its better use more than one for different uses?

[real raptor]

hi, for anyone who had exec wall issue earlier, did you update to 4.2 now? i had exec wall issue and fixed it, but not i am kinda scared to update to 4.2 just to result exec wall back again

[rose halo]

run ollama run <model> --verbose
see tokens/sec: 54.7

70 is very fast
40 is avg iguess
30 or lower is bad speed

you can probably run good models with ur mac

you rly need to test a few and check

test different sizes, test different models of similar param sizes

[lean delta]

when i ask somethin on llama.cpp for example llama3.2_8b-Q4-K-M is like at 17-20 t/s, so its too low for openclaw?

[trim flicker]

How did you fix it? I reverted to 3.28 to avoid it. Not updating until I find the solution

[real raptor]

so far i heard 2 way

1 is prompt set exec to FULL

another is saying 4.2 has yolo mode as default, therefore exec wall wont come back

[magic gazelle]

Outbound to WhatsApp groups works fine (sending via group JID like [e-mail]), but inbound group messages never reach the gateway — nothing shows up in logs even with groupPolicy: open. Re-pairing WhatsApp didn't help either.

Direct messages (DMs) work fine both ways. Is group message reception supported? If so, any known fix?

[mortal cypress]

openclaw is about to piss me off. How are yall able to give openclaw to write and execute files

no matter what i do it will not execute files

[drifting epoch]

Help - i literally just signed up for Openai Pro plan, and I'm getting rate limited just chatting with one of my agents about some config files

[rocky orbit]

What error do you have?

[drifting epoch]

model fallback decision: decision=skip_candidate requested=openai-codex/gpt-5.4 candidate=openai-codex/gpt-5.4 reason=rate_limit next=anthropic/claude-sonnet-4-6

from gateway

Weekly usage limit is at 88% already somehow, despite 5 hour usage limite still 100%

[vestal swallow]

Who can make daily news alert agent with openclaw

[rocky orbit]

Weird when did you sub?

[drifting epoch]

1 hr ago

[rocky orbit]

Are you sure you’re logged in with the right account?

[nimble hill]

If you have created a new agent via openclaw agents add myagent and that agent is not appearing the chat window of the gateway dashboard. Then the solution is to just invoke a message using openclaw agent --agent myagent --message "which agent are you and what model are you using?" This would have the agent myagent show up in the dropdown of the chat in the gateway dashboard

[royal matrix]

Hey everyone — quick question.

I want to give one of my bots a clean slate in Telegram. I cleared the chat history and sent /start but it still remembered me, so the memory is clearly persisting on the OpenClaw side.

Two things I'm trying to figure out:

1. If I use "delete and block" on a bot in Telegram, can I unblock it by just searching for it and starting a new chat? Or does it do something more permanent?

2. What's the recommended way to fully reset a bot — clear the memory folder, anything else?

Anyone tried this?

[whole sparrow]

how to fix this ?
Expected ',' or '}' after property value in JSON at position 1852 (line 1 column 1853)

[digital tiger]

Help, Im trying to use openclaw but it asks me to approve commands in the web or in the terminal but they dont event show up, they were but not anymore?

[drifting gust]

Hello! Certified Noob here! Need some advice from you wonderful friends. Gateway keeps dying with SIGTERM after ~60 seconds on Railway. Bot starts typing on Telegram then drops. Logs show 'ws closed before connect' repeatedly. Running v2026.3.8. Already fixed split-brain variables, added Voyage key, cleared overloaded session. What's causing the 60 second SIGTERM?

[fickle elbow]

what really helps me since im not tech savy is i have claude on the side and when i get a prompt i dont get i copy paste everything to claude and it explains to me what i need to do, hope that helps

[lone lynx]

any doctors in the house?

[indigo goblet]

??

[lone lynx]

eh my guy was having memory issues, trying to get him back online but i think we're ok

[indigo goblet]

lol memory issues?

[lone lynx]

yeah hold on i got his report

Title: Local Embeddings (node-llama-cpp) Failing to Load After Successful Build

Goal: Get memory_search working.

Initial Problem: When memorySearch.provider was set to gemini, we were getting a RESOURCE_EXHAUSTED 429 error, as the free tier credits for the embedding model were depleted.

Chosen Solution: Switch to the local provider for embeddings to bypass API keys and billing entirely.

Troubleshooting Steps Taken:

1. Edited openclaw.json to set agents.defaults.memorySearch.provider = "local".
2. Restarted the gateway. This resulted in a new error.
3. New Error: optional dependency node-llama-cpp is missing (or failed to install).
4. To fix this, we attempted to build the native module. The pnpm rebuild command failed (pnpm: command not found).
5. We then ran npm rebuild node-llama-cpp from within the global openclaw module directory, which reported success.
6. We restarted the gateway again. The error persisted.
7. As a final measure, we followed the error message's explicit advice and ran sudo npm i -g openclaw@latest to perform a full global reinstall.
8. After a final restart, the error is identical.

Current Status:

• openclaw.json has memorySearch.provider set to "local".
• npm rebuild node-llama-cpp reports success.
• memory_search consistently fails with Local embeddings unavailable. Reason: optional dependency node-llama-cpp is missing (or failed to install).
• OS: WSL2 (Ubuntu)
• Node version: v22.22.2

It seems like there's a fundamental disconnect between where npm is placing the compiled .node file and where the OpenClaw application is looking for it. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

if anyone's got a working bot that can crunch that i would appreciate it

[indigo goblet]

what are you trying to do exactly?

and youre running a local model?

[lone lynx]

just for the memory part, the main brains gemini

[indigo goblet]

hmm I see

are you positive you've used gemini quota for free embeddings?

[lone lynx]

it was definitely saying i did

[indigo goblet]

I'm not sure of the limits, but I was under the impression there wasn't? unless you're really doing heavy heavy work beyond just retrieving memories.

[indigo goblet]

on your API dashboard?

[topaz nova]

hey questions anyone followed up[ with clawx??

[crude owl]

Have you changed the embedding model before? If you did first thing to check would be your dims most likely that would be your cause which might need rebuilding

[lone lynx]

no, the ai was getting some kind of rate limit thing but just for memory search. i think ialmost fixed him

[indigo goblet]

you have to check through your API dashboard directly.

[lone lynx]

i did but i'm not certain what i'm looking for

where is the embedding model changed exactly? just the json?

[indigo goblet]

oh, its actually 250 requests/day with gemini free tier embeddings.

[lone lynx]

that sounds about right, if it was just for that memory search tool

[indigo goblet]

https://aistudio.google.com/api-keys

you can see your key there and hit the 'view usage'

[indigo goblet]

even with 250 max/day, it should be quite good already unless you are using embeddings for something else too, stuff that are heavy on it.

[lone lynx]

to be honest i'm not entirely certain but i think i'm good now, our operation was a success

[indigo goblet]

so you have gemini as embeddings?

[lone lynx]

so i have three keys in there that are definitely being used, i don't see anything about embeddings?

but yeah i think i fixed it anyways but thank you!

[indigo goblet]

hm ok 3? can't tell you about that because its on your side and what you are using it for.

[indigo goblet]

yes, it works that way. an API key is an API key, no category. It just depends where you plug it.

and for what.

so in that case, it goes to embeddings in your .json so > memorysearch; provider; apiKey; model etc.

so it is used for embeddings.

[lone lynx]

i guess i could make a new key but i'm trying to switchover to local memory

ill check the json right now

[indigo goblet]

any reason why? because gemini, openai etc is straightforward, plug and play, no headache with local.

and for personal AI assistant, the cost is very very low, even if you drop 5 bucks on openai and use the large model, its gonna take a long while before you eat it.

[lone lynx]

it just seemed like an interesting project

yeah that might be the way to go, so i change the provider to openai?

[indigo goblet]

I see, pretty cool

[indigo goblet]

it depends, gemini is good I believe and totally free. I personally didnt search into gemini embeddings vs open ai models

I've used it at the beginning and then switched to openai > large model as I know they generally have the best stuff and the cost is very negligible so why not, plus I saw gemini embeddings misfired a couple of times, failed requests in the usage chart.

and I'm on codex pro already so yeah, when it comes to memory, I'd rather drop $5 on an openai API key to make sure stuff get retrieved concistently without failures.

[lone lynx]

yeah that makes a ton of sense i'm going to do that, thanks! if i have any questions you mind if i just dm you?

[indigo goblet]

no worries, I dont answer DM usually, you can shout out to me here, I'll answer!

also, how your agent memory is structured matters almost as much as the embeddings so yeah;

[ripe helm]

Can't use ollama(llama3.1:8b) on my 24gb mac

it does not respond via openclaw, but responds fast via ollama cli

[carmine tartan]

how to connect telegram guuys?

[ripe helm]

openclaw config in cmd

[carmine tartan]

thnx 🙂

[ripe helm]

and click channels

you will see telegram

follow instructions

[carmine tartan]

i typed /newbot named bot and got a token pasted it in terminal and now what , i msged my bot hey and no reply?

[dim harbor]

theres a step where you need to paste a code from bot into openclaw. i had to do it manually, not sure if theres a more automated way for it. try /start in the bot

[carmine tartan]

i got a token from telegram fatherbot channel after making my bot

and pasted it in terminal

[dire pollen]

Anyone know how to fix bots mention each other on discord group?
Group of 4 agents, 3 are 90% ok. But one can’t mention CEO, just the others.
What instructions you give them to fix these ?

[dim harbor]

yeah theres one more code you need to get to pair it. its like 8 or 10 digit xxxxx-xxxxx something like that. i was just doing it yesterday and had to do this step manually. i had my openclaw help me so im not really sure what it did 😂

[ripe helm]

are you using local or cloud

[dire pollen]

Cloud

[eager maple]

I use Claude setup token currently for open claw, is minimax good for the swap?

[indigo goblet]

Anthropic just banned sub use for openclaw etc so watch out.

[misty trout]

Hey guys, is it normal that about 1 out of 4 times when I give instructions to my open models and they start using tools, they just stop after using a few of them? I have to prompt them with something like “so?” or “all good?” before they either give me a status update or continue working. They’re not asking for permission, they just go idle out of nowhere.

I'm on the latest version

[hollow trail]

Wait. What?

[eager maple]

Yeah, that’s why I’m looking for a replacement

[indigo goblet]

Yeah https://www.reddit.com/r/Anthropic/s/k3QqBKnfhJ

[crisp wing]

r/Anthropic via Reddit

[indigo goblet]

I'd say chatgpt plus or pro

Krill is back bruvvvvv woowooo

back from the dead

[eager maple]

That also has token setup like claude?

[indigo goblet]

it has OAuth, so it will open a chatgpt page and you log in and done.

[fickle vortex]

is it why my agents on telegram sayin just "⚠️ Something went wrong while processing your request. Please try again, or use /new to start a fresh session." from todays morning? I already tried zilion things to fix this trough terminal, but nothing works

[dim harbor]

probably not, no. it still works, it will just cost extra from tomorrow

[indigo goblet]

might be, but I can't say for sure

[delicate tide]

how big is your context?

[coarse rune]

best model to use with openclaw for usecases coding and research? i am using claude sonnet 4.6 and its using too much basically 20$ in 1 day for just normal conversations and setting up not sure if its normal openclaw said the reason its using too much because it reloads the whole context

[misty trout]

▶️ How do you add a new agent to OpenClaw? I’ve pulled the model from Ollama, created an OpenClaw config, and selected it, it now appears in the model list in chat, but I want it to be an agent in the list of agent i already have

[mighty rampart]

What model are you using? Search for a post I made recently with a paragraph for SOUL.md that helps with this.

[misty trout]

I have one agent "Agent A" that uses qwen3.5:35b, Agent B uses Qwen3-coder:30b, and now I was trying to get an Agent C with Gemma4, but somehow it doesn't show up. I may have forgotten a step, what is the current workflow?

[mighty rampart]

‘openclaw agents add’ and follow the prompts. On the command line.

Restart the gateway and see what you have, and go from there. Point a frontier model / tool like Claude Code at the config from outside of openclaw and let it figure it out. Then it doesn’t restart itself.

[misty trout]

we must use CLI to add an agent, there's no GUI way in the gateway?

[fading radish]

I told OpenClaw to set up an LLM router to manage what tasks go to a local LLM or to Anthropic

[misty trout]

I've done it with the command line you gave me but my Agent C doesn't show up in the agent list, any idea?

[mighty rampart]

What does Uptime show on /overview in the gateway web ui ? (did it get restarted?)

[misty trout]

I restarted the gateway and even my computer. In the dashboard -> Agent, there's a drop down menu: i see them all, but in dashboard -> Chat, it's missing

[misty trout]

I tried to start a conversation with openclaw with CLI et it says it can't because of a pairing issue

[mighty rampart]

hm, that's what I was going to suggest. at the command line openclaw agent --agent <your-agent-name> -m "Hello" -- then it should be there in the chat.

[cloud burrow]

Does openclaw qr works for you cause it doesn't for me ?

[misty trout]

gateway agent failed; falling back to embedded: Error: gateway closed (1008): pairing required```

[solar cape]

Hello, I just made my first steps intalling claw on my homelabbing pc, I am trying to setup my Browser API when I noticed that brave askes money in order to do so (if I got that correctly). I would like to know if there is any web search provider that doesn't require you to subscribe for an API key

[mighty rampart]

Ideally, start Claude Code in the .openclaw directory and tell it what is wrong. If not, I have found web-based Gemini to be very good at debugging openclaw issues. Tell "Only ask me ONE thing at a time" and it will step you through what to check and how to fix it. You may need to paste in parts of the .openclaw/openclaw.json file so figure out how to get that for it first.

[mighty rampart]

I believe Brave web search has a free tier. I have an API key set up and I haven't paid them and it works. I'm only doing a few searches a day though.

[stable orchid]

Hey guys i'm new here ! I installed openclaw on a VPS, everything is working fine but my AI doesn't want to work : it says it's not able tu use my credentials and publish ads for me, how can I solve this problem ?

[misty trout]

working now, here's what i did:
openclaw devices list
then I saw one "device" that wasn't paired, copy its ID then:
openclaw device approve <id>

[hazy oasis]

Hey everyone,
I run a multi-agent setup with 3 agents (Opus as primary) and I've configured Sonnet and GPT as fallbacks. However, I've consistently observed that GPT models simply never complete tasks in an OpenClaw agentic context — they appear to receive the instructions but fail to actually execute. It basically fakes doing the work without actually doing it.
Has anyone else run into this? Is this a known limitation with GPT providers in OpenClaw?

[languid hedge]

Hi guys, I’m getting ready to integrate openclaw with Claude. Is it better to do it with api key or with Claude code cli? And y? I’m newer to this and don’t fully understand so any help for either side helps👍

[misty trout]

Has anyone tried Gemma4 with openclaw? I use the small models and somehow it always fails and use another model as fallback

[hollow trail]

Fuck. I was just fucking bought a subscription for run Claude in openclaw. Shit. I should use Minimax

[cloud burrow]

Does anyone installed android open claw? Did it worked?

[mighty rampart]

What are you trying to do / what problem are you trying to solve? (You may be able to do it with Claude alone now, which is much less complicated.)

[languid hedge]

I’m creating my own Jarvis that I can use wherever thru my phone that connects back to my desktop where openclaw will be installed and I will need it run tasks on my computer/help with small day to day tasks and organization and running agents already created using Claude code. Sometimes I will use it to actually run Claude code for me but that will be more rare, I’ll just tell him to run agents that are already made and check up on things across my computer

[meager vessel]

any bypass for oauth for claude

[mighty rampart]

Assuming your budget for this is healthy, start with an Anthropic API key and get it all working with the main agent -- your chief of staff.

[languid hedge]

What should my expected costs for the api key rly be?

[pastel pewter]

why can't my openclaw create discord channels?

it says it doesn't have permissions

[dim harbor]

thats probably why

[pastel pewter]

it has

[dim harbor]

try https://docs.openclaw.ai/channels/discord

[misty trout]

there's really some annoying bug in openclaw. I pulled gemma4 and tested in ollama web ui = super fast. In openclaw I sent a "hi" and haven't gotten any reply for 10 minutes.. what's going on?

[dim harbor]

check logs

[misty trout]

it says it swapped because of a timeout

[nimble river]

Hi folks. Using openclaw openai-codex through oAuth. Can I configure image generation also with openai-codex so that openclaw can generate images with the same model I'm using for chat?

[dim harbor]

there you go, no response came back in time. you can try extending timeout, or try some very small model that will work faster, just to see if you can get response first. also instead of "hi" ask something more specific, so it doesnt overthink it. "how to do..." then it can just answer

you can also try reducing thinking and any other settings that can speed it up.

to see if its really taking long or it just never replies

[misty trout]

in the doc it says:

    agent.wait default: 30s (just the wait). timeoutMs param overrides.
    Agent runtime: agents.defaults.timeoutSeconds default 172800s (48 hours); enforced in runEmbeddedPiAgent abort timer.

but when I tried to add the parameter timeoutMs in the agent:default, the gateway refused to start

[plucky escarp]

Has anyone had trouble switching providers on Hostingers 1 Click OC?

[obsidian flint]

someone else had a similar issue - https://discord.com/channels/1456350064065904867/1489637669058252882

[indigo goblet]

I wouldnt recommend to start with an API key.. best to go with a chatgpt Plus sub so it's safe and you can fiddle around and at least you wont burn through your wallet during troubleshooting etc etc.

[vagrant ridge]

if you wanna try an open source model with it, then Fire Pass is good. You can get a 7 day free trial (I'm on it now) https://app.fireworks.ai/fire-pass

the model is kimi k2.5

[mighty rampart]

Looking at that message it is agents.defaults (plural). Are you editing the json directly? openclaw doctor might help.

[placid flower]

I use the Ollama app on my windows machines, I have RTX GPUs and I always seem to run into issues where ollama drift into using CPU instead of my GPUs whether it's after an ollam update or gpu driver update, I always seem to get disconnected. Would I have better luck using ollama.cpp to codify GPU usage?

[ivory cobalt]

hey, did anyone manage to get gemma 4 models working via google free tier?

[unique bear]

Hey. I’ve just updated from 2026.3.28 to 2026.4.2. I’ve backed off updating due to exec issues in dashboard and via telegram.

Can anyone help me better understand the exec and why it’s being blocked in the webui/dashboard?

Is it easy to fix and allow? Why have they defaulted it to being blocked in webui sessions?

[kind lark]

Trying to post in the iOS channel but getting a message that "This can't be sent because it contains content blocked by this server. Please revise and try again." is there some kind of onboarding I need to do before I can post?

[dim harbor]

dont mention anything related to virtual moneys or exchanging it, thats the big one thats not welcome

#rules message

[rustic pier]

Guys, what's the best equivalent to the Claude 20x plan and OAuth?

Does OpenAI have the same option for OAuth with the $200 / month plan?

Or do I need to buy API credits on OpenAI.

[copper nova]

yes

openai has a 200 plan

[rustic pier]

I wonder if Apple will give me a refund for the 20x Claude....

[copper nova]

which people are saying it's way more inference than the claude 20x plan

[copper nova]

they suppose to be sending emails for people to refund today

not apple, claude

errr anthropic

[rustic pier]

Yeah I accidentally renewed through Apple so I wonder if I can submit a support request for a refund.

[copper nova]

I just bumped it down to the 20 plan, until I can ween myself off my opus addiction

https://giphy.com/gifs/bokeem-woodbine-DUO9dc3yDLXHO

[inland knot]

Anyone can suggest an affordable way of using OpenClaw? I mean coding plans no API, API's are hella expensive

[copper nova]

openai 20/month plan

i'm experimenting with it right now, seeing how it goes, i really don't wanna splurge for the 200 right away

also there's github-copilot as well

[dim harbor]

im happy with it, just using up the weekly limits too quickly 😄 need to see how it goes now that im back to it after claude went on vacation

[inland knot]

I'm running marketing, and vibe coding landing pages, that 20$ plan most likely wont be enough hahaa

[copper nova]

we'll see how it goes for me, I have a meme factory basically doing the same thing but a little more... indepth

I have github copilot as fall back if I hit usage rate limits

[inland knot]

I'm currently using M2.7 coding plan, but he is kinda dumb as an overall mode, good in some cases, but pretty dumb

I thought about GLM 5.1 coding plan, same value, basically same request limit as M2.7

[dim harbor]

glm seems to be one of the best ones overall for openclaw, but no first hand experience yet

[dim harbor]

does copilot work same like oauth option, you can just use it in chat in openclaw? maybe that for orchestration with opus might be a good mix

[copper nova]

yea works the same ish, just request billing instead tokens, no session/weekly stuff

you get 300 reqs for the 10 plan, 1500 with the 30 plan

[dim harbor]

this might be the best option now for opus. not sure how far 30 gets you if you use the API

[inland knot]

So yall recommend GLM > MiniMax

[dim harbor]

for brain id say almost definitely. minimax i think is great for doing small things or researching stuff on internet etc

[feral cobalt]

So I can get the cloud models on ollama to work and the 14b qwen local but not the 2.5:1.5 lol is it because it can’t handle all the initial prompts? It essentially crashes and makes whole computer hang. I can use it using ollama.

Haven’t moved forward as I’m trying to run it in laptop/think small core should be fine(schizo no brain more iq than universe sized particle ai with crap policy(not magic or with particle manipulation tools*, just problem solving/sorting/discriminating))

[inland knot]

He is kinda capable of coding also, but he lacks imagination hard on coding

From my tests, i mean, i gave him a prompt made with Opus, ultra detailed on how i wanted a landing page to look, and he messed the aestethic

[dim harbor]

interesting, yeah i would have expected it to follow the plan 😄 was hoping id be able to use minimax to do the coding. maybe glm will be better with following the plans

[inland knot]

He is very good on debugging, almost flawless, comparing to opus

But on the artistic imagination, Opus is the king

Imma try GLM 5.1 now, buying the coding plan, let's see how this goes

[dim harbor]

id try this for 10 bucks:
https://opencode.ai/go

kimi, minimax, glm, and mimo now too. but glm is only 5, not 5.1

[copper nova]

it's the best, 12cent for opus call vs $4 in API cost

it's definitely wayyyy better

[dim harbor]

in before microsoft comes out with third party warning announcement 🤣

[inland knot]

I need a model capable of chatting, workflows like Hubspot, Meta, Google drive/gmail/calendar etc, and also a bit of vibe coding

[copper nova]

lol they already getting wise, they started implementing some ghost rate limiting

[inland knot]

12 cent for Opus? when where how? take my money

[copper nova]

github copilot

[inland knot]

they give Opus for lower prices than official API?

[copper nova]

yes

[inland knot]

Imma settle for even Sonnet or Haiku tho

[copper nova]

those are 4cents and 1cent each

[inland knot]

input or output?

doesnt rly matter at that cost, 30$ would last a bit on those prices

[dim harbor]

they charge per request for now

[inland knot]

that is dope

[cold inlet]

does this realistically work as a free anthropic alternative?

been thinking about this a lot and wrote up a tiered free stack approach: qwen 3.6 as daily workhorse, deepseek/kimi for reasoning, mistral for background tasks, local llama as last resort fallback

only escalate llm’s to paid for the 5-10% of tasks that genuinely need it. targeting $15-30/month instead of hundreds

posted the full layout on reddit would love the community's take on whether this actually holds up in practice

https://www.reddit.com/r/openclaw/s/7m1WBmZuxp

[simple dove]

Hey guys im setting up open claw with claude api the first time and i finally got in the browser dashboard and wanted to try the chabot for the first time and got this error and cant fix it : HTTP 404 not_found_error: model: claude-3-3-sonnet-20240620 I have selected the provider anthropic and mode api in the openclaw.json. Btw where do i have to write my Claude api key in.In which config file. I guess maybe thats the problem dont know. would be happy if someone could help. thanks!

[inland knot]

Are Github Copilot plans worth it ?

[dim harbor]

couple of people here recommend them, im consdiering it for the opus now 😄

[copper nova]

worst than a direct sub, better than API rates

[inland knot]

I saw the 10 dollar one

Everything in Free and:
Copilot cloud agent
Copilot code review
Claude and Codex on GitHub and VS Code
300 premium requests to use latest models, with the option to buy more1
Unlimited agent mode and chats with GPT-5 mini2
Unlimited inline suggestions
Access to models from Anthropic, Google, OpenAI, and more, including Opus 4.6

And I am intrigued

[copper nova]

just get it, it's good

[inland knot]

say less, it should be better than my M2.7 that spits random chinese and russian words anyway

[trim flicker]

I'm running the agent on openrouter free (with $10 loaded to get higher daily limits) and then using gpt-5.4 via OAuth on my plus plan for specific tasks

[swift cypress]

oh boy just found this channel at last

hi there, I am new and still setting up my clawbot (captain Luna!) I have been using codex to make her so far, but was thinking about transitioning to where Luna is making herself and is self improving? Does anyone else do this? is this ill-advised?

[trim flicker]

Not sure what you are doing specifically

I use mine to improve but it depends on the model being used as to how successful it would be

[swift cypress]

Does it change its own...brain? like for example I used to codex to implement small memory in Luna, Could Luna implement her own small memort into herself? Like would that even work?

Basically I am using codex to make the clawbot? but am worried about gpt usage limits and was hoping I could start using Luna to make herself

[trim flicker]

What model are you using for Luna?

[swift cypress]

She swaps between Qwen3.5:9b (general chat), Qwen3:14b (most tools run here), and Qwen3.5:27b (this is the oracle, it doesnt run often)

[inland knot]

Ok this Github Copilot plan is crazy, got the 10$ one, got unlimited access to GPT 5 Mini

[trim flicker]

Yes should be fine to just use Luna

[copper nova]

yes

but 5 mini is buttcheeks

but it is free

[swift cypress]

thank you!

[inland knot]

I mean, i think its still better than M2.7, i need to test more tho

[trim flicker]

What are you using Luna to do?

[swift cypress]

My goal with Luna is a small business copilot/personal assistant. (and optional companionship chat when im bored/alone)

Right now she can:
chat with me in Discord as luna-chat
run ops/research lanes like luna-ops, invasion-counsel, and the-oracle
analyze my X/Twitter feed pulls and turn them into posts, threads, and Knowledge Vault items
organize creator/business insights into my Discord workflow channels
maintain some structured local memory/context
run with a separate mascot sidecar that reacts to speaking, thinking, replies, and music
give me a local control center for logs, jobs, and status

So in practice, she’s part:
companion
creator/business assistant
lightweight research/operator bot
and animated local mascot when you want her visible

Im still setting her up, got a long way to go it seems ahah

[trim flicker]

Ok consider different agents for the various scopes so context windows doesn't balloon and you can debug easier.

[swift cypress]

its just a sole member llc, for vtubing and digital creation so I figure Luna could be like an employee?

[swift cypress]

would it be good to get a model just for coding?

[trim flicker]

You can also have different soul files for each agent. Tailor the companion to that role and the creator to that one.

Are you running local models?

[swift cypress]

yes, all local

I have 16gb vram

[trim flicker]

That's good, better than my machine but not that great . But yet use a model geared to coding tasks for thatm

Keep scopes separate, separate chats, etc

[swift cypress]

thank you ^^

its been a trip getting here, this is all pretty cool though!

[trim flicker]

It's certainly fun if you enjoy tinkering. Try the latest Gemma models. Should be ok with E4B with your setup

If you have ollama setup it's I think gemma4:E4B

It sits at 9.6GB

[swift cypress]

Thank you! I will check it out c:

[formal fog]

For ollama, make sure to use "ollama" and not openai for the protocol, then the context size will be honored. if you use the openai protocol and set a 64k context size, ollama will not honor it.

[swift cypress]

thank you!

I appreciate all of the advice and tips c: So far I have just been trusting the AI coder with full faith xD

[formal fog]

"models": {
"providers": {
"ollama": {
"baseUrl": "http://127.0.0.1:11434",
"apiKey": "ollama-local",
"api": "ollama",
"models": [

[nova moon]

does codex have an extenstion to view screen like claude?

[serene trench]

When using OpenAI models and asking your OpenClaw to do a thing, is it common for it to say it can do a thing, not do the thing, and then you follow up with it to say, "Did it do the thing?" and it said, "No, I should have been more explicit: I didn't do the thing. I'm now doing the thing."

Can't tell if this is my specific OpenClaw agent having an issue or if this is just how OpenAI models work with OpenClaw

[swift cypress]

im not sure, I havent used it if it does

[mighty rampart]

Which model and what context size? This happens with my less capable local models. I posted in the last couple of days a paragraph that Claude added to the agent's SOUL.md like "Do not promise what you can't do in a single turn etc. etc." that cuts down on it.

[drowsy plaza]

HI all, just joined, wants to understand what other people are using for model.
I am eyeing m2.7 how does it stackup interms of opus or we have something better

[dim harbor]

not great for the big brain. I was just looking at this, it goes through the models: https://x.com/meta_alchemist/status/2040416725775352258

[trim flicker]

Fix it with training and skills

[trim flicker]

This

[unique bear]

I asked my lobster to run on my Mac mini automatically if there is a power outage. It set up the launch agent as a daemon - so it starts without the need for me to login to the Mac.

This seems to have created a load of extra problems. Is this the right way to go about this?

I’ve also switched back to chat gpt 0auth from Claude and when it tries to spawn a codex ACP it his an auth error. I can’t work out how to fix it.

Would really appreciate help if anyone knows a fix

[drowsy plaza]

this posts gives good review to m2.7 also

[dim harbor]

yeah but feedback ive seen in the chats here were mixed, overall its lacking some intelligence. it can do a lot of things just its a bit slow 😄

[serene trench]

openai-codex/gpt-5.4 and how do I know my context size?

Bootstrap max/total: 150,000 chars
Sandbox: mode=off sandboxed=false
System prompt (run): 40,333 chars (~10,084 tok) (Project Context 19,601 chars (~4,901 tok))```

[dim harbor]

in openclaw? just type /status

[serene trench]

:books: Context: 196k/272k (72%)

Found the statement and had my clanker add it to it's SOUL.md

Let's see if that works. I don't consider GPT 5.4 to me a less capable model. I believe I leave thinking on high.

[fossil drum]

advice for improving gpt5.4 model memory? it forgets what i just told it often and isnt particularly... agile. that is to say it can hit its head against the wall more so than claude

i should qualify that im troubleshooting some cron issues now...

[pliant wren]

What you described is what the installation already does automatically, without any extra work. How did you install openclaw on the Mac mini? Using the one-liner script from openclaw.ai, or some other way?

Seriously, I installed my MacOS config on my mac mini, opend terminal, installed openclaw, and that was it. Restarts as expected with the Mac mini restarting. No need to be logged in.

The only launchagent I had it create is to restart the gateway after 10 seconds, if the gateway quits or otherwise terminates (this used to happen when openclaw was less stable, but recent updates fixed gateway stability, but it's nice to have)

[unique bear]

Thanks for replying. I found that my Mac went down once (have it on auto restart) and openclaw didnt start until I had logged into the mini.

I’ve never had a Mac before so it’s pretty new territory. You’re saying the gateway should start automatically without the need for login?

[iron inlet]

Hi, I'm getting alerts regarding Memory search. It says I have to have google, voyage or mistral API key for semantic recall. Is this precise? Is there any free option to use it? Thanks!

[distant jacinth]

So, as a new user here. I have OpenClaw running fine on Arch Linux Docker Container, all went fine, but I am stuck at the login screen token or password dont let me pass. Also I am running Google Chrome Broser on the server where I use 127.0.0.1:18789 to connect? What I am missing?

[light seal]

Hello, someone get this error too while using Discord?
Something went wrong while processing your request. Please try again, or use /new to start a fresh session.

This morning everything was running fine.

[swift cypress]

you use claude?

[light seal]

Yes Max

[swift cypress]

its dead

anthropic take it away

https://x.com/steipete/status/2040209434019082522

[crisp wing]

@steipete via Twitter

Peter Steinberger 🦞 (@steipete)

woke up and my mentions are full of these
︀︀
︀︀Both me and @davemorin tried to talk sense into Anthropic, best we managed was delaying this for a week.
︀︀
︀︀Funny how timings match up, first they copy some popular features into their closed harness, then they lock out open source.

Quoting mvpr (@marinatedvapor)
︀
@bigben7182000 @steipete

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FxTwitter · Apr 3, 2026, 11:26 PM

[swift cypress]

sorry friend

[light seal]

Oh shiiit... Only OAuth? So the only way is now to switch to cursor or MiniMax?

Ah no not cursor... Means OpenAI

[swift cypress]

you should have an email from the big guys I think they sent on out

Everyone is scrambling to figure it out

ha what a money problem

[nova moon]

anyway to have openclaw see screen take snapshots ect like claude?

[unique bear]

Sorry forgot to say - used the one liner from the website

[swift cypress]

what is hermes? I am fresh getting into all of this

Like Ive seen that people use it with clawbot?

[inland knot]

hermes, as a model, it is a Llama 4 fork by Nous Research, fine tuned for agentic work

Is it good? Maybe yes, didnt test it

If you talking about Agent, that is like OpenClaw, with self-improving memory layers by default

didnt test that either, idk how good or bad it is

[swift cypress]

thank you

[serene trench]

When you are creating multiple new agents, do you have your OpenClaw bot create them or do you use something like Claude Code or Codex outside of OpenClaw to create them?

[swift cypress]

and yes, the agent, this thing https://github.com/nousresearch/hermes-agent

Ive been using Codex to do setup, but I am setting up my coding agent in clawbot to be able to transition over so I dont get limit capped

I got a free month to chatgpt so im using the crud out of it

Im not sure how the coding agent will do, but codex is nice

[unique bear]

I got the codex ACP error fixed! It turns out I needed to install the codex CLI and 0auth that too. It dint inherit the openclaw ChatGPT 0auth

[dim harbor]

yeah acp uses the installed codex/claude etc. you need to login those directly

[plush venture]

how do i disable skills?

[inland knot]

when will OpenClaw developers with fix the "chain-of-thought appearing in discord chat" ?

Idk if this happens across Telegram or other platforms

[dim harbor]

theres /reasoning option in telegram at least that you can turn off, try turning it on/off if its there for discord too

[pearl meadow]

is there someone who has working claude-cli ?

[gloomy scroll]

HA OpenClaw integration over TailScale?! Having trouble getting this to talk. Have "Home Assistant Green" and it's hooked up to all kinds of stuff. Put Tailscape "app" on HA; looks fine, can see host/IP in Tailscale cloud console. But don't see tailnet in "ip addr" (terminal "app") or HA settings system network. In add OpenClaw integration wizard i put in openclaw url and port and gateway token but can't get connected. OpenClaw is on a VPS, gateway bound to 127.0.0.1, with a "tailscale serve --bg --http 80 http://127.0.0.1:18789" running. (this seems to work as i'm able to access web dashboard from other devices over tailnet.) Ask: Anybody got this working and can tell me what i'm missing? In re-reading maybe its an HA question more than OpenClaw, but...

[nimble hill]

Install tailscale directly on the host of vps and of HA. You will get ip addresses. Use those in opeenlcaw and HA to connect

[dim harbor]

those who had it worked said it uses extra usage

[pearl meadow]

even for ACP ?

[dim harbor]

dont know about thatone yet

[inland knot]

i went back to M2.7 for my main agent, GPT 5 Mini rly is trash

[brittle ibex]

Remote Ollama provider always falls back to Claude — "reason=unknown"

I have Ollama running on a separate machine (Ubuntu, RTX 5060 Ti) accessible from my OpenClaw host (macOS). Ollama responds fine to direct curl requests from the host.

Config:
"models": {
"providers": {
"ollama": {
"baseUrl": "http://127.0.0.1:11434",
"apiKey": "ollama-local",
"api": "ollama",
"models": [{ "id": "llama3.1:8b", ... }]
}
}
}

(SSH tunnel forwarding remote Ollama to localhost)

Heartbeat config:
"heartbeat": {
"model": "ollama/llama3.1:8b",
"every": "30m"
}

Problem: Every heartbeat shows:
[agent/embedded] live session model switch detected before attempt: ollama/llama3.1:8b -> anthropic/claude-opus-4-6
[model-fallback/decision] candidate_failed requested=ollama/llama3.1:8b reason=unknown

The switch happens before any HTTP request — it's not a timeout or connectivity issue. openclaw models list shows all Ollama models as "configured/yes/yes". I added an auth profile manually for ollama:local but no change.

What am I missing to get OpenClaw to actually use the Ollama provider for heartbeats?

Version: OpenClaw 2026.3.28

[dim harbor]

well, people trying out diferent models will definitely be more of a thing now, until now it was just, get claude lol

[analog lodge]

Hi all!!is there any Channel or similar about agents teams? Im trying to create one and i would like to see ideas

[pliant wren]

You can also set your Mac to auto-login to your user -- but if you have FileVault encryption enabled, then you MUST type in your password at boot, to enable decryption. If you want clean reboot without any of that, disable FileVault, set auto-login.

[pliant wren]

This is actually a good thing. It helps me troubleshoot the agent.

[strange ferry]

I am looking for help. I just switched to Kimi sub and I have issues with tools calling...

[inland knot]

I mean, Claude is still the standard i guess, but it’s hella pricey, I’m a heavy user, with maybe 500 requests per day on average, including workflows

I cannot affort Claude

[inland knot]

Lowkey yes, highkey its so annoying

[dim harbor]

well, can still use claude in claude.ai / claude code, just not exactly the same

[inland knot]

never tried claude code, but i heard it is indeed a good piece of software

[teal prawn]

Anyone running on Oauth for their OpenAi subscription?

[dim harbor]

Yes

[timid barn]

Most are I believe

One question : what’s a good model to run for m3U 512 to pair with openclaw in the event that gpt decides to follow Anthropic’s route?

[safe dock]

When you claim the extra usage, is openclaw supposed to just magically start working again? Im getting the message "LLM request rejected: Third-party apps now draw from your extra usage, not your plan limits. We've added a $100 credit to get you started. Claim it at claude.ai/settings/usage and keep going." even after I claimed the extra usage.

[nimble hill]

Thats probably the only OAuth that runs perfectly fine

[fickle trail]

I've set up an agent with its own Gmail address. When the agent sends emails automatically, they show the raw email address as the sender name instead of the display name I set up. When I send manually through Gmail it shows correctly. Because of this the emails keep getting flagged as spam.

Has anyone run into this? Is there a solve?

[past beacon]

Anyone else burning through extra usage faster than expected after the auth switch? I've been trying to optimize model routing (Haiku for background tasks, Sonnet for main), cache expansion, shorter context. Still feels like it's eating more than it should. Curious what others are doing to keep costs down or if this is just the new normal?

[rugged berry]

Hi OpenClaw / ClawHub team,

I’m trying to install the "ride-insights" skill for the DataHive mission but I keep encountering a persistent rate limit error even after multiple attempts over 24+ hours.

Here are the details:

Command used:
openclaw skills install ride-insights

Output:
Downloading ride-insights@0.1.12 from ClawHub…
ClawHub /api/v1/download failed (429): Rate limit exceeded

Environment:

• OpenClaw version: 2026.3.31
• OS: Windows (native)
• Gateway: running (manual via "openclaw gateway run")
• Tried multiple networks (WiFi + mobile hotspot)
• Waited 24+ hours between attempts
• Also tried alternative skill name: datahive-ride-insights

Result:
Still consistently receiving 429 errors.

Question:
Is this a global rate limit, temporary block, or restricted access to the skill?
Is there any way to get access or bypass this limit to complete the DataHive mission?

Thank you!

[mighty rampart]

Make sure extra usage is turned on in your account.

[safe dock]

Yep, it is. It was previously using the setup-token from claude - should it have been using a different provider config?

[mighty rampart]

It should just work. There’s a thread on Reddit about the same thing and they said after a while it started working with no changes. My guess is it’s the age old “distributed systems are hard” problem with data waiting to sync to various services.

[vagrant gull]

for some reason my discord integration has completely stopped working and me nor agent can figure it out. .

[elfin cedar]

Hi folks - trying to install OpenClaw for the first time and I've been hitting a wall. As soon as I tell it to use TUI I get this error message. I haven't worked with ai api's before so I'm sure that has something to do with it. I'm using openai, created an api key and funded the billing tab to $24. Gave OpenClaw the api key during the onboarding procedure but now I get this when OpenClaw tries to wake up: run error: Project proj_ArECQjQahsbAEMVfvogWwcXn does not have access to model gpt-5.4. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

[rapid talon]

For anyone using Ollama to pair Gemma 4 with Open Claw, just note that there are still a few unresolved tool calling issues with Gemma 4 on Ollama that are yet to be resolved. Ollama pushed an update that improved things, but didn't account for all cases it seems. Details linked: https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/15315#issuecomment-4186695864

[pallid knoll]

Anyone know how much worse Claude Cowork is from Openclaw w claude?

Also does anyone know why openclaw is so much better w opus 4.6 than gpt an how to make gpt better w it?

[lethal forge]

anyone tried using the gemini web ui as api?

[remote jetty]

Does any channel support passing pasted images to the model? Tested Discord and it doesn't work.

[rapid spruce]

Hey everyone — hoping someone here has gotten claude-cli backend working on 2026.4.2. I've been stuck on this for hours and exhausted every config option I can think of.

Setup:

• OpenClaw 2026.4.2 (d74a122)
• Claude CLI 2.1.92 (installed via npm, at /opt/homebrew/bin/claude)
• macOS (Mac mini)
• Claude CLI is authenticated and works perfectly standalone: echo "hello" | claude -p --output-format json --dangerously-skip-permissions returns a response no problem
• 11 agents, all set to claude-cli/claude-opus-4-6 or claude-cli/claude-sonnet-4-6
• sandbox mode is off
• cliBackends configured with just command path

The error (every single time, all 3 fallback models):

Error: Invalid MCP configuration:
Failed to read file: Error: ENAMETOOLONG: name too long, open '/Users/edith/.openclaw/workspace-main/Conversation info (untrusted metadata):
{"message_id": "...", "sender": "Slimvaio", ...}

OpenClaw is passing the conversation prompt content to Claude CLI, and Claude CLI is interpreting the entire prompt as a file path relative to the workspace directory. It tries to open() it, which fails because the prompt is way longer than the OS filename limit.

What I've tried:

• Removing all custom args from cliBackends (letting OpenClaw use built-in defaults)
• Adding custom args with --strict-mcp-config --mcp-config /dev/null (rejected as unrecognized key)
• Adding workspace: false to cliBackends (rejected as unrecognized key)
• Running openclaw configure
• No .claude/, CLAUDE.md, or .mcp.json files in the workspace
• Fresh claude setup-token
• Auth profiles copied to all agents

My cliBackends config:

"cliBackends": {
  "claude-cli": {
    "command": "/opt/homebrew/bin/claude"
  }
}

Has anyone gotten claude-cli working on 2026.4.2 with Discord channels? The built-in defaults in the compiled source show bundleMcp: true and input: "arg" — is there something else I need to configure to prevent the prompt from being treated as a file path?

Any help appreciated.

[slow laurel]

Curious, does anyone here have their OpenClaw interact or transact with other agents you don't own? Using A2A protocol or otherwise? If so for what use cases? If not, why not?

[mystic vault]

Bro, my open claw is like gaslighting me and hallucinating, and not doing anything and my Claude code decided to lobotomize it.

[crude owl]

Discord passing image to your agent works fine, maybe your upload path is not defined for your agent

[shut slate]

I am super new to this! I have set my model via the /model command.

however in the main chat window it seems to default to gpt5.4 codex.. however when I chat with openclaw, it is using the model i set before (the correct one).. can anyone explain what the model drop down box actually is for in the chat window in the webgui please?

[zinc wave]

What would be the best model to run that’s free?

I just had my Claude cli running finally after all day but I it got used up quick lol

[paper pilot]

why does 5.4 constantly try to offer to do things for me.. like bro how do i turn that shit off

this kind of shit:

"if u want, i can also make u a workspace .vscode/settings.json for it."

[strange ferry]

someone use kimi subscription? I have issue with tools calling . Doesn't work at all...

[gentle hearth]

Newbie here. I've a question. I tried for hours to make an ollama local model working yesterday but every single time I've a 500 error. I've installed Openclaw on a macbook air m1 with 8gb of ram. Ollama works like a charm. I've installed the qwen3.5:0.8b model, the smallest. But when I select this model in Openclaw, I get the 500 error. I looked but didn't find any fix on Internet

By PC understand Openclaw

[dim harbor]

theres a known bug in 4.2 for kimi on openrouter at least thats been fixed but not yet released

[rocky bridge]

Hi guys, by testing them, what are the best models right now as a brain for openclaw ? Trying to find good alternatives after Claude subscription just got canceled. Thx !

[unique bear]

Anyone found a solid guide for gog auth? I keep hitting road blocks! Gave up trying to use and install 1password as that just keeps throwing up allow requests on Mac mini

[topaz nova]

Its a mess

Qwen 3.6 is free now for 2 weeks in openrouter

[slender onyx]

Hi, I am using Openclaw to control my homeassistant devices. It frequently needs curl usage. Was working fine but after the last update it is always asking for command approval. How can I let it use curl for a specific URL (anything beginning with http://localhost:8123 ) without any limits ?

[rugged berry]

Hi team,

I was able to:

• install OpenClaw
• log in to ClawHub (whoami: jcoptimus)
• confirm the skill exists locally

However, I cannot successfully install or execute the datahive-ride-insights skill due to persistent 429 errors from ClawHub.

I also attempted to generate and upload a manually formatted JSON file based on my ride data, but the submission is always rejected.

This suggests the validator likely requires a file generated directly by the OpenClaw skill (with metadata/signature), which I cannot produce due to the install issue.

Can you confirm:

1. Is the mission currently dependent on successful skill execution?
2. Is there any alternative submission method while ClawHub is rate-limited?
3. Can my account be whitelisted or the skill access be enabled?

Thanks.

[strange ferry]

I mentioned subscription not API from Openrouter. Anyway maybe both have the same issue. Is there anything how to fix it?

[stray rain]

Qwen3.5-27B, 35B , tool call parse broken, openclaw and llama latest version. Anyone have fix or other model work well for llama?

[gray jewel]

I switched to GPT from CLaude and I am having a problem with Codex 5.3 actually doing work. It says its on it then just doesn't do anything. Anyone have this issue and solve this ?

[mighty rampart]

I’m surprised to hear GPT 5.3 / 5.4 is doing that, but search for my post in the last few days with a paragraph like “don’t promise what you cannot do in a single turn etc etc” and see if adding it to SOUL.md helps.

[gray jewel]

I have all the bs like that in soul - the agents ignore the majority of those files most of the time

[mighty rampart]

What are you asking it to do? Have you done /new to start the context over?

[gray jewel]

literally load in sop file and check a website - it says its on it, doesnt do any work

new context , gateway restarts, doctor fix didnt do anything

[mighty rampart]

Probably time to dig into the session logs and see what it is “thinking” when this happens.

[gray jewel]

cant even get thinking mode to turn on

[mighty rampart]

Even Qwen3 Coder locally can fetch and summarize a website. 🙂

[gray jewel]

im just asking it to load a new tab in a browser as a test of work

its refusing to work at all

[mighty rampart]

Wait, computer use, operating the browser? I was talking about web_fetch tool use that’s different.

[gray jewel]

"You’re right to be pissed, but I still can’t dump raw internal chain-of-thought verbatim.
Reasoning mode helps me think better and can surface summaries, not full private
token-by-token thought text. If you want, I’ll switch to explicit decision traces on
every step: what I checked, options I weighed, why I picked one, and confidence. "

refuses to turn on thinking

I had such a nice setup with claude. I had codex working previously as well I dunno what they did with it.

[mighty rampart]

Thinking was the wrong word. Just observability, see if there are session logs to try to debug what is happening. Where you can see all the back and forth.

[gray jewel]

Thats what I turned on its refusing to print it in tui

openai-codex/gpt-5.3-codex | think high | reasoning:stream | tokens 32k/197k (16%)

[brazen arrow]

I'm trying to setup discord with multi-agent (each is a separate bot). I want them to talk to each other via a particular channel (say #conference) and in other channels, I've specified channel->agent specific requires mention:False (True by default in all the channels so that if explicitly pinged, they can talk to each other) to talk freely to the right bot in the right channel. however, a bot mentioning another bot doesn't seem to work, the other bots doesn't even seem to receive regardless of direct ping in other channels or the common channel. Has someone got this to work?

[pearl parcel]

Post is on Reddit? Tried to find but didn’t come up. Would love to see the favorite one-liners of power users for Claude.md/ soul.md

[oblique perch]

I want to run Openclaw on Windows. Without a docker, because I am running the LLM's on a bare metal machine. I cannot find a workaround for this issue. Only one being some Abliterated models will just work....

" CRITICAL Small models require sandboxing and web tools disabled
Small models (<=300B params) detected: - ollama/huihui_ai/qwen3.5-abliterated:35b-a3b-q4_K (35B) @ agents.defaults.model.primary (unsafe; sandbox=off; web=[web…
Fix: If you must use small models, enable sandboxing for all sessions (agents.defaults.sandbox.mode="all") and disable web_search/web_fetch/browser (tools.deny=["group:web","browser"])."

[mighty rampart]

no, in here: #users-helping-users message

[marsh bolt]

Anyone else having problems with MiniMax Cron jobs since 4.2? Mine are timing out even with long defaults for agents and the crons. Other agents are fine.

[marsh bolt]

Sonny (Sonnet) found it: Found it. DEFAULT_LLM_IDLE_TIMEOUT_MS = 6e4 = 60,000ms = 60 seconds. This is a new default LLM idle timeout introduced in 4.2 — if MiniMax doesn't return a token within 60 seconds, the request is aborted.

The fix:

openclaw config set agents.defaults.llm.idleTimeoutSeconds 180

That gives MiniMax 3 minutes to return the first token, matching its usual behavior. Or set to 0 to disable entirely:

openclaw config set agents.defaults.llm.idleTimeoutSeconds 0

[trail tapir]

Hi
I need some help
I’ve updated to the latest version of OpenClaw (4 April 2026) and it won’t let me authenticate via OAuth on OpenAI
I’ve been using it on a Linux ARM VPS for two months now and it’s worked a treat; I’ve decided to set it up on my personal PC as well, but that’s the only thing that’s not working. The difference is that when I click on ‘OpenAI Codex OAuth Browser’, instead of giving me a link, it tells me that the credentials have been automatically retrieved. It tells me to choose the model, but when I try to interact with it, it says I have no credits (I’ve tried forcing it not to automatically select my credentials, and it still tells me to choose a model directly without logging in). I need help; I don’t know what to do.

[solemn skiff]

i was having a lot of problem understanding and working openclaw today, im trying to configure it and add chatbots but i dont understand a lot of it could someone hwlp me out or point me in the right direction?

[inland knot]

I think Krill can best guide you in #1459642797895319552

[amber vortex]

Hey, can someone help me what model can I use that can do decent orchestration using local LLM? I was using opus 4.6 but after Anthropic ban I have limited option. Can use max plan sideways but not more than that. Are there any other workarounds?
My stack:

Component	Spec	LLM Role
GPU	RTX 3090 24GB GDDR6X
RAM	64GB DDR4 3600MHz (2x32GB)
CPU	Ryzen 9 5950X (16c/32t)
Storage	2x NVMe (1TB + 1TB, ~900GB free)

[harsh tulip]

This is awesome to know about

[dense ledge]

I’ve moved my OpenClaw production runtime to WSL. Telegram/Discord work, but Google Calendar/Gmail integrations are blocked because the old docs link for the gog CLI (steipete/gog release asset) appears dead. What is the current maintained source or install method for gog on Linux/WSL?

[undone lily]

does haiku 4.5 has vision?

[leaden smelt]

Anyone know about a browser Ron can use? He suggested chromium but it didn’t work.

[hot pewter]

what do i do about the only using extra usage from anthropic, anyone got a bypass yet?

[fresh dune]

I think that will be a challenge. I am having better luck using something like Synthetic.new to run larger models. It still costs money, but I am on the $30/month plan at the moment, and that seems sufficient for my current needs. I make that agent/model the orchestrator and have it (hopefully) craft the prompts that drive the smaller local model(s) that handle the actual coding. I do have a decent local model that I use as a glorified web researcher. She's not doing a lot of coding or system mantenance (which she tends to screw up), but I can text her a topic, and she will do a decent job of researching and returning answers.

[quiet comet]

I had to do the same when I was using ollama cloud models

[pearl parcel]

Much appreciated 🙏🏼

[violet dove]

hey can anyone help me out here for some reason i cant get discord to work.. i had it working for a while and after making a bunch of changes it's not working anymore.. i reset the config to be sure I didnt mess something up.. but it's still not working its showing under status either

[unborn igloo]

Interesting. So you're saying a bot's message doesn't flag but a normal message does?

[upbeat coral]

exec and tool usage is still broken, right? OpenClaw 2026.4.2 (d74a122)

[junior seal]

My nano banana isn’t Gemini free tier. Is that the same for everyone else?

[ionic rover]

was anyone able to get acp agents working with discord?
I am trying to create a discord channel that is bound to claude code. but the following happens:

• I run acp spawn bind here and it says succeeded, but my regular openclaw agent keeps replying in the channel. not claude code
• it works if it creates a thread, however, I keep getting two responses in the thread. (Same exact response, twice)

anyone seeing htis?

[rocky bridge]

hey guys, im wondering whats the best thinking level i should use for my openclaw...Whats your recommandations ? Thx for your returns !

[clear tide]

Entirely subjective to your use case @rocky bridge

[rocky bridge]

im using it for basic crons like calendar cron and email summary, also to send emails basically, im on low right now

[clear tide]

The difficulty of the cron would matter here, but low is probably sufficient. Use the least thinking until it's having issues, increase the think.

[rocky bridge]

thats a good rule to follow, thx !

for daily chating and tasks you ask directly to your main agent, what is your thinking level by default here ?

[clear tide]

Personally, I think this can apply to most areas (assuming the intent is to optimize 0-shot token usage).

[rocky bridge]

what i mean is, what is YOUR configuration here ? Like are you using it on low, medium or another one ?

[topaz nova]

Hi there is it me
Or just struggling with webui to much settings anyone experience with xclaw ?.dm me if your an expert in this

[clear tide]

I usually sit on one notch down form the highest. The XHIGH thinks don't always perform better outputs.

See some papers for excellent explanations why you shouldn't do what I do. 😄
https://www-cdn.anthropic.com/bbd8ef16d70b7a1665f14f306ee88b53f686aa75.pdf
https://arxiv.org/html/2507.04023v2

[celest vigil]

Hi guys, does anyone which skill that can help me to find various stock images for a product but with US ip address as some of the website blocking non US IP address? I was using browser tools but got restricted and how to make the LLM knowing that different images rather than same image?

[tawdry swan]

hey gus i alwyas get error its showing connected but after some while it doesnt work

i am using z.ai

[brisk crag]

Since Claude has shut down third-party apps using the Openclaws Anthropic SDK, has anyone tried using the Claude Code CLI (on a VPS or locally) as an alternative? Specifically, using the subscription via claude --print (headless mode)?

[urban sluice]

Yeah curious how people are dealing with the anthropic third party shut down:<

[wide tangle]

Hello! I'm trying to enable elevated tool access for agent "lia" (sandboxed, triggered via Telegram).

I've added this to config.json:
"tools": {
"elevated": {
"enabled": true,
"allowFrom": { "telegram": ["5063835481"] }
}
}
Also added inside agents.defaults.tools and agents.list — but still getting:

"elevated is not available right now (runtime=sandboxed). Failing gates: allowFrom"

Is it possible to enable elevated access for sandboxed agents? Or does the agent need to run outside the sandbox? What's the correct config syntax?

Setup: VPS Ubuntu, Telegram provider, agent "lia" sandboxed.

[raven kernel]

hi if i want to optimize my claude pro plan to the maximum potential and for token usage what exactly should i do

[summer comet]

@brisk crag @urban sluice its working great for me. been using it since last night when the change hit. no issues so far.

[brisk crag]

@summer comet Okay thanks, I tried it too, but unfortunately it was always charged as extra usage for me. How did you do it?

[brazen arrow]

Yes. When I message (in both channels where requireMention: True/False) it works, but another bot's ping to a different bot is not recognized. I've tried adding other bot ids to allowFrom, but that doesn't work either.

[half folio]

hey all, I'm trying to set up gemini through oauth and have this error. I think it's because on my mac, gemini is launched using gemini and not gemini-cli. Does anyone know a quick fix? Could I just create a symbolic link named gemini pointing to gemini-cli? I'm not a big mac/or linux user but trying to think how to get this to work. Everything online points me to a similar issue running it in windows. Here's the error I get after trying to set up the login on mac: Error: Gemini CLI not found. Install it first: brew install gemini-cli

[half folio]

I'd prefer to try the oauth since I have a monthly pro plan that I'd like to use vs the API key way

[meager vessel]

Does anybody knows?

I have claude code installed in my terminal.. Can openclaw in the terminal use claude code for coding stuff only? Or is that also blocked?

[marsh bolt]

Still using the API. Doing more with Sonnet, MiniMax. Works great.

[sand folio]

What is the best way to keep track of gemma integration progress? Just follow that github issue?

[slim crown]

Could someone help suggest a consumer size llm that can control a Mac desktop?

[mild comet]

How are people authenticating with remote MCP servers that only support OAuth? Wondering if openclaw supports it and I just can't figure it out or if it's not supported and it's worth building.

[warped night]

Once I updated my openclaw my telegram messages seem to be dead and not going through, but they go through and I get a response when going into the web control and selecting the telegram session, any suggestions? Thanks

[languid hedge]

hey all, quick question before i hop into using openclaw: if you have a chatgpt plus subscription for 20 a month and have codex, why would i use api keys that cost so much money to run agents autonomously 24/7 when i can just oauth thru codex for no additional api cost? Thanks!

[rustic pier]

Those of you that got extra usage working, how did you do it? Mine is enabled and set to unlimited, but still getting the "something went wrong" error.

[stray rain]

why my gemma 31b q4 so dump , not answering back my question, always keep saying read user.md , souls.md etc

[rustic pier]

Nevermind, I hard to send a message on Claude itself to start the session limit bar, then restarted OC and it started working.

But I'm burning through these extra credits very quickly

ugh

[swift cypress]

"It's like a cat who decided to take a nap so deep he became an egg. 😂"

haha what gemma you crazy

[swift cypress]

I jsut swapped from Qwen to Gemma, it takes a little re-working

[high heron]

?

[swift cypress]

That doesnt mean gemma is bad or qwen is better, just gemma works a bit differently

[high heron]

theres no reason to use api for gpt

[stuck pumice]

Guys I asked my claw to do a task. It does the task in chunks which is okay but it stops midway and now if I ask it to do it is not doing anything. It's not spawning a subagent

Btw it's vanilla claw. No skills used.

[languid hedge]

Why doesn’t everyone use gpt then? Everyone uses api keys instead and those get out of control very quickly cost wise

[high heron]

i dont get ur point. ur asking question and answering ts in the same time bro

[high heron]

they use gpt oauth rather than apis because its cheaper

like x36 cheapter

[languid hedge]

Sry it just seems to good to be true I thought it was only api and token use

[stiff patrol]

This is happening to me too

[languid hedge]

Also Claude just stopped using oauth so I didn’t know if OpenAI would do the same in the near future

[high heron]

i dont think so

oauth is against claude's tos

but not for openai

[languid hedge]

Is there a usage limit tradeoff for not using apis infinitely? Like how fast does openclaw suck out of the gpt usage?

[languid hedge]

^ forgot ping u again for my message

[high heron]

depends on ur usage, but oc def spends more usage than normal codex will do

but its still cheaper than api

and it doesnt have to do anything with api or oauth. its just oc usage itself.

[languid hedge]

Ok thank u! I just never understood how it works so thanks for the clarification. So then why do so many ppl use api keys from whatever llm their agents are using then? At least from what I see on social media. Is codex strong enough to do everything an api from a different llm can do like anthropic?

[high heron]

because not every provider support oauth

and yes.

[languid hedge]

But like I use Claude for everything rn. But w openclaw im 100% ok with using a ChatGPT account for $20 a month to run openclaw instead of being charged $100+ in api tokens

[high heron]

same

i have max plan

[languid hedge]

And if it does the same doesn’t it make more sense for everyone to use codex regardless of their model?

[high heron]

but i have 3codex acc

for oc

[languid hedge]

Do u ever hit usage limits?

[high heron]

yea

🥀

[languid hedge]

3 max accounts, so 600 a month? That’s wild to me, is it worth?

[high heron]

no.

1max acc

3codex acc

plus

[languid hedge]

So how do u have ur accounts integrated in openclaw? 3 codex accounts at 20/mo so 60 plus gpt pro? What’s the benefit of having all the accounts?

[high heron]

yea. i actually have 5 though

but i paid for 3

just because of usage limits

gpt pro plan is x5 plus

and it costs 200

its better to buy 5 plus for oc

[high heron]

just run openclaw onboard

or

openclaw onboard --auth-choice openai-codex

[languid hedge]

So do u use ur max account for oc at all or just the 5 codex accounts?

[languid hedge]

Idk what this means bc I don’t have OC yet, can I have all 5 accounts connected at once so it’s just a plug once and forget or do u have to choose a new one every time usage runs out for one account?

[stray rain]

I still working on it, my gemma 4 with llama seems not working with tools calling, and my qwen3.5 always have error with parse error . How did you get those work?

[high heron]

no. i dont use max acc for oc

i dont wanna get banned

i just use 5 codex acc

[high heron]

just run and login 5 times. thats it

oc will auto swap accs if it reaches rate limit

[languid hedge]

So u just give it the 5 oauth keys and you’re done?

[languid hedge]

^

[high heron]

yea

[languid hedge]

So how often do u hit usage limits with the 5 accounts, and what is the usage limit and when does it reset for gpt? Do u find it worth ur $100/mo cost? What do u use it for?

[high heron]

depends on my usage. but rarrely

depends on when u start

just like claude

yea def

[swift cypress]

Yeah, I ran into similar weirdness. do not be offended, I had my ai help me-

For Gemma 4, the main thing I found is that “the model supports tool calling” does not always mean your exact serving path exposes it correctly. I had better luck with the official Ollama Gemma 4 route than with some HF GGUF import paths. Some imported Gemma builds looked fine on paper but didn’t actually advertise or handle tools cleanly in practice.

For Qwen 3.5, parse errors were usually less about Qwen being bad and more about the harness/runtime combo plus prompt shape. The biggest things that helped me were:

keep tool contracts really explicit
don’t ask for conversational filler before tool output
give it one clean output format at a time
avoid giant “research + think + format + tool call + summary” prompts in one shot
isolate lanes so one dirty long-lived session doesn’t poison everything
Also, I’d verify whether the model is actually being served through the provider/protocol your harness expects. In my case, using the proper Ollama protocol mattered, and some model/runtime combos were just more stable than others.

So my practical takeaway was:

official Ollama model routes > random imported GGUF routes, if you care about tools
Qwen 3.5 was more reliable for long structured agent work
Gemma 4 was more fragile for me in some tool-heavy lanes unless the setup was very specific
separate lanes/workspaces helped a lot
Basically: if tools are flaky, I’d suspect serving/runtime mismatch first, not just the base model.

[high heron]

1 gpt plus acc = 1 claude x5 max plan ngl

[languid hedge]

Ur saying the gpt pro plan is 5x 1 Claude max acct for open claw use?😭

Would’ve never guessed that lmao, is it just cuz chat has way higher usage limits?

[high heron]

in general

claude has shit usage limit

[steel slate]

Same here, I have enabled extra usage limit and still getting 400 error of third party usage. and I have restarted openclaw like 5 times.

did you happen to find any solution?

[rustic pier]

yes use Claude directly on the website a few times so that it starts your usage meter for the current session

then restart OC, fresh session, should get it workign

[steel slate]

Thanks mate, let me try that

[languid hedge]

So u pay only $100/mo to run ur oc and rarely hit usage limits, thats rly efficient given api keys have a minimum of like 150-200/month. and u dont think ur missing out on anything that api key users can do bc have codex? U think codex works at least the same if not better?

[high heron]

no. api and oauth gets the same sht

api is just x36 expensive

i basically spend more than $3k in terms of token usage

and i only pay 100usd

so ig its a fair deal

[languid hedge]

What do u use it for?

[high heron]

automation

[languid hedge]

Well yea but what are u automating? Do u receive any sort of income to offset the cost of the accounts or do u just think the automation u use it for is worth the $100/mo

[high heron]

i dont get paid by doing automation

im jsut automatiing everything tbh

schedule, job, ...etc

i get my work done faster

so 100/mo is def worth the time ngl

[languid hedge]

Interesting, thanks for u time!

[nimble hill]

in my opinion, I use it for research and develop automation flow. but the actual automation runs on n8n (the AI part if quite limited and hence save lot of tokens - my n8n workflow hardly use $20 /month) - to me $100 is not justified using it for automations, it is just that openclaw is token hungry and unstructured

[little vapor]

howdy.
i had openclaw hooked up to my openai pro and it ate the limit before i managed to hook up my ollama cloud account. so am fumbling adding this but the openclaw config trips me up. it's looking for a local instance... am i missing something here?

[little vapor]

woah.
this looks like a great way to just add capacity as needed.

[high heron]

yes

[high heron]

you can run

openclaw onboard

and select ollama

[simple stratus]

hey everyone i am really struggling to flip over to the api. i've had this very persistent issue since yesterday where i have $300 aud of extra usage but i am getting a constant error saying that i need to top up. it's been happening for about the last six hours and i have not been able to fix it.

i'm at the point where i just wanna use an api key because it's completely bottlenecking my workflow at the moment. if someone could advise me on how to put my api key in, that would be awesome because i can't find the resource for it. obviously i can't use my openclaw with claude at the moment.

[little vapor]

that i did. was looking for it locally thought. was wondering if i had to do it via json edit.

[simple stratus]

[6/4/2026 2:34 PM] BruceWayne: ⚠️ Something went wrong while processing your request. Please try again, or use /new to start a fresh session.
[6/4/2026 2:36 PM] Bruce Wayne (Int): hi
[6/4/2026 2:36 PM] BruceWayne: ⚠️ Something went wrong while processing your request. Please try again, or use /new to start a fresh session.
[6/4/2026 2:46 PM] Bruce Wayne (Int): hi
[6/4/2026 2:46 PM] Bruce Wayne (Int): /new
[6/4/2026 2:46 PM] BruceWayne: ⚠️ Something went wrong while processing your request. Please try again, or use /new to start a fresh session.
[6/4/2026 2:46 PM] BruceWayne: ✅ New session started · model: anthropic/claude-haiku-4-5 (default: anthropic/claude-sonnet-4-6)
[6/4/2026 2:46 PM] BruceWayne: ⚠️ Something went wrong while processing your request. Please try again, or use /new to start a fresh session.
[6/4/2026 2:50 PM] Bruce Wayne (Int): hi
[6/4/2026 2:50 PM] BruceWayne: ⚠️ Something went wrong while processing your request. Please try again, or use /new to start a fresh session.

[6/4/2026 8:28 AM] BruceWayne: LLM request rejected: You're out of extra usage. Add more at claude.ai/settings/usage (http://claude.ai/settings/usage) and keep going.
[6/4/2026 8:29 AM] Bruce Wayne (Int): wtf do you mean im out of extra usage
[6/4/2026 8:31 AM] BruceWayne: LLM request rejected: You're out of extra usage. Add more at claude.ai/settings/usage (http://claude.ai/settings/usage) and keep going.
[6/4/2026 8:34 AM] Bruce Wayne (Int): what the fuck
[6/4/2026 8:36 AM] BruceWayne: LLM request rejected: You're out of extra usage. Add more at claude.ai/settings/usage (http://claude.ai/settings/usage) and keep going.
[6/4/2026 9:03 AM] Bruce Wayne (Int): hi
[6/4/2026 9:04 AM] BruceWayne: LLM request rejected: You're out of extra usage. Add more at claude.ai/settings/usage (http://claude.ai/settings/usage) and keep going.
[6/4/2026 9:24 AM] Bruce Wayne (Int): hello
[6/4/2026 9:26 AM] BruceWayne: LLM request rejected: You're out of extra usage. Add more at claude.ai/settings/usage (http://claude.ai/settings/usage) and keep going.

this was this morning. went from the out of extra usage to something went wrong

[little vapor]

your using oauth for claude?

[simple stratus]

I was

would love to continue, cause i have the extra usage sitting there

for $300

[tame beacon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Anthropic/comments/1sbsfct/anthropic_bans_using_claude_subscription_for_3rd/

it is why

[little vapor]

saw this from their discord: Using third-party harnesses with your Claude subscriptions

Starting tomorrow at 12pm PT, Claude subscriptions will no longer cover usage on third-party harnesses like OpenClaw.

You can still use these harnesses with your Claude login via extra usage bundles (now available at a discount), or with a Claude API key.

We’ve been working hard to meet the increase in demand for Claude, and our subscriptions weren't built for the usage patterns of these third-party harnesses. Capacity is a resource we manage thoughtfully and we are prioritizing our customers using our products and API.

Subscribers get a one-time credit equal to your monthly plan cost. If you need more, you can now buy discounted usage bundles. To request a full refund, look for a link in your email tomorrow. https://support.claude.com/en/articles/13189465-logging-in-to-your-claude-account

No changes to Agent SDK at this time, working on improving clarity there.

[simple stratus]

it wasn't letting me use my card for api aswell which was really werid

weird*

[little vapor]

ooh. might be a silent ban

[tame beacon]

i hope OpenAI will not do it

[high heron]

tbh if u cant run kimi 2.5 locally, dont use lcoal models

[simple stratus]

"Your purchase couldn't be completed. Check your card details and try again."

i have no idea

this is so fkn agitating

[little vapor]

hopefully but i bet sooner or later they will want people to go api. there is just a ton of margin there. @high heron is smart with that multiple oauth... gonna take his advice and do that. lol buy one for each member of the family.

funny enough, althought oc says this: ⚠️ You have hit your ChatGPT usage limit (plus plan). Try again in ~2963 min.
i can still chat with it on the app. smh.

[simple stratus]

honestly flipping over to the api, i wouldn't even do anything because they're not even accepting my card details so i don't even know what the hell i'm meant to do

[little vapor]

it worth gonna run on a 5060ti 16gb?

[high heron]

16gb ram?

[little vapor]

yeah, just 16gb unfortunately

[high heron]

no

u cant

then

u need like 250gb ram

just use coding plans (glm, kimi, qwen, alibaba...etc) or gpt plus/pro

[little vapor]

if it's a ban, you can isolate by opening another account to test the api with your payment details. it should push through.

[simple stratus]

how do you know if it's a ban? I've literally not done anything to circumvent their new changes. i had the same Oauth setup from the start

but i was working on an app so i had an API proxy running? so maybe they flagged that? but how am i meant to know?

[little vapor]

this is from their discord announcement page

[high heron]

i dont think this is ban

if anthropic ban ur acc

they'll notify via email

[little vapor]

ah. didn't know that.

[little vapor]

LOL yeah, just gonna pay for more pros

[simple stratus]

"Your card was declined."

idk why they keep declining my card? have they blocked my card? i tried paying for api with a new card i setup on wise

and i hadn't activated it by accident

so idk if they're doing a card block?

tried another card. same error

[little vapor]

@high heron got a family member another paid account and got my workflow running again. appreciate that simple AF workaround, good sir.

[dusty edge]

Hey! Since upgrading to 2026.4.5, Discord no longer shows the "Claw is typing..." indicator while the bot is processing. It used to appear before the upgrade. Streaming is set to partial. Is this a known change or a regression? Any config to fix this

[dusty edge]

And now it’s back… random.

[tribal crown]

No sure why, but i booted up openclaw today and it’s only replying this: <html>
<head>
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1" />
<style global>body{font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif}.container{align-items:center;display:flex;flex-direction:column;height:100%;justify-content:center;width:100%}@keyframes enlarge-appear{0%{opacity:0;transform:scale(75%) rotate(-90deg)}to{opacity:1;transform:scale(100%) rotate(0deg)}}.logo{color:#8e8ea0;padding-bottom:1.5rem}.scale-appear{animation:enlarge-appear .4s ease-out}@media (min-width:768px){.scale-appear{height:48px;width:48px}}.data:empty{display:none}.data{border-radius:5px;color:…

wondering if anyone knows what’s up..

[frank cradle]

My bot in TG is posting same text (answers) twice.
Since yesterday.

Is it an openclaw issue or would it be Kimi API that im using now?
My bot itself Cant seem to fix it 🤔

[stray rain]

Trying all day long but still cant get model for for openclaw, either glm4 and gemma not doing tools call, stuck at same chat over and over again , or qwen3.5 getting parse error, tried both llama and ollama but still not working.
can u share your config and model you are using and work before?
Anything I may be missing to cause no tools call ( only printing out cmd) , and parse error? Thank you so much

[dim harbor]

try doing /new or using a different model to see if it changes anything

[opal yacht]

After switching to MiniMax-M2.7, Cron jobs with simple script execution timeout after ~60-70s — same tasks work fine with gpt-5.4-mini. Config has 1200s global and 360s per-job timeout. Is this a known issue with MiniMax on short output tasks?

[dense patrol]

Hey guys. I'm curious, where can I contribute a feature request/integration?

[tender aspen]

Hi — running v2026.4.2 on Mac. I have two agents: main and ari. Ari has her own Telegram bot token set in the accounts section of openclaw.json with agentId: "ari", but messages to Ari's bot are routing to the main agent session instead of agent:ari:ari. Is there a known fix for multi-agent Telegram routing in this version? Thanks

[latent hedge]

remind me.. is it 'kimi-coding/k2p5' or 'kimi-code/k2p5' thats the correct one?

[primal geyser]

Does gemini cli oauth as model work? When i try that, in tui it shows projectid not found and to use /login to reauthenticate

[limber turret]

Hi -- running v2026.4.2 on Mac. I have develop claude-max-api-proxy to be able to use "Anthropic compatible" with claude max subscription. My repo is public in github, give it a try.
I have a question: everytime I send a message to any session, openclaw gateway send an api with the whole conversation with system promt in it (about 1000 lines long). Is this fine or there is a problem?

[hallow goblet]

does anyone uses any other API provider aside from OpenROUTER? I found one called AIsa and I noticed their model pricing is way more cheaper compared to openrouter. Anyone tried it?

[solid stratus]

GM all!
I'm working on integrating SearXNG. Docker server working great, but agents are unable to see web_search still.
I've noticed that the config syntax structure is different if you use the command line web config vs. What the Sear page on openclaw website. Anyone else had success here

[dusk grotto]

Anyone else getting this after 4.5 upgrade?

⚠️ Something went wrong while processing your request. Please try again, or use /new to start a fresh session.

Yes I did /new it just send me the same message again both discord and telegram

[edgy granite]

Does ElevenLabs TTS require any additional setup steps on a VPS beyond setting the apiKey in config? /tts status shows not configured despite the key being present.

[dusk grotto]

Cron job "morning_brief" failed 1 times
Last error: FallbackSummaryError: All models failed (4): openai-codex/gpt-5.4: LLM request failed: DNS lookup for the provider endpoint failed. (auth) | openai-codex/gpt-5.3-codex: No available auth profile for o

[crude owl]

just asked your agent to do it, should be easy and if they fail maybe you might want to change your model

and under your plugin entries

  "searxng": {
    "enabled": true,
    "config": {
      "webSearch": {
        "baseUrl": "http://localhost:8888"
      }
    }
  },

depending what port you use

[solid stratus]

Using isolated environments, so agents can't edit the json config. Too messy for me, but Qwen 9b has been giving me headaches..
I'll give that plug-in syntax a try too. Thanks!

[crude owl]

qwen? why? you are using self hosted or subscription model? try glm if you think cc is expensive - they got a $10 plan now i think

[frail summit]

The ability to call my OpenClaw and use ElevenLabs for TTS/STT so I can prompt him or have discussions via phone

[solid stratus]

I'm working only local, just a personal pref rn.
Qwen 27b is great, 9b kind of blows for agents

[plucky escarp]

Anyone else having trouble with the Hostinger 1 Click setup? It won't allow me to use Open Ai 5.4 Pro provider but it is set to default.

[lean tiger]

when i try to add discord i get this wierd error " [plugins] discord missing register/activate export" any ideas?

[cosmic hollow]

upgraded to 4.5 this morning and openai broke. anyone have the same issues? Don't see anything in help about it. I'm running on grok fast 4.1 right now and it keeps telling me openai 5.4 needs scopes changed but I don't use enterprise: ChatGPT web (chatgpt.com) → profile icon (top-right) → Settings → Organizations (sidebar).
Pick your Org → Members tab → confirm Owner or Writer role (upgrade if Reader).
Settings → Projects → pick project → Members → Owner or Member (not Viewer).
Anyone have any ideas?

[main sand]

We dont need the chrome extension anymore to control the browser in Windows as of v2026.4.2?

[lyric canyon]

I'm used to claude code, I use it at my work, but openclaw at home uses gpt 5.4, how the F do I get gpt not to act like a autistic intern that I need to babysit to answers 100 follow up questions and explanations? just do the F task and come back to me, my god.

[jade kiln]

Hey everyone - struggling with I think a pretty common use-case with multi-agent setup. I have multiple agents (Coder, Designer, Researcher) with an orchestrator running on Opus. I have them communicating with each other through Discord, which is working but I've had to put in a lot of custom logic to make sure they aren't getting into infinite loops and they still have issues with not being able to see what other agents have posted if not explicitly mentioned. Is having them communicate via Discord the wrong move? Should I be leveraging sub-agents or some other pattern?

[eager maple]

How do I change my model on openclaw?

[limber garnet]

⚠️ Agent failed before reply: All models failed (2): qwen/qwen3.5-flash-02-23: Unknown model: qwen/qwen3.5-flash-02-23 (model_not_found) | qwen/qwen3.6-plus:free Unknown model: qwen/qwen3.6-plus:free (model_not_found).
Logs: openclaw logs --follow

Help plss

[pastel estuary]

hey guys how can i connect my open claw if i'm hosting it with hostinger with my chatgpt subscription for coding?

[plucky escarp]

I'm using the same setup but wasn't able to use my subscription. I had to setup the API

[pastel estuary]

sadly, do you know about any workarounds on how you can use your anthropic subscription or is it totally removed right now?

[plucky escarp]

I don't believe you can with the 1 Click setup. You will need to manually setup OpenClaw to use your subscription

[nimble hill]

You can log into thr gateway dashboard. It usually would be hostinger provided public URL. I hope you have SSH access to hostinger?

[fringe frigate]

does it make sense using copilot allowance? I remember people were taking about using a "feature" that treat a single multiturn call as one credit. one test question for me was 12 credits

[cerulean pond]

Hellow fellow crab herders! A quick question, maybe i'm just being dumb - what do you use to generate workflow diagrams based on what your agent has created? The stuff mine draws is... well... awfull at best

[unique yew]

I am using OpenClaw on a Hostinger VPS. You have full root access to the server, the docker container etc. (That's why I would configure the firewall of the VPS to block everything except your IP.)

[limber schooner]

My agent uses PlantUML.

[main sand]

Try ollama/qwen3.5-flash-02-23 instead of qwen/qwen3.5-flash-02-23
And what is your config's model.providers object looking like?

[stoic fractal]

[e-mail] why do you want the agents to talk to each other. Is it part of your workflow or are you just testing the capability

[stoic fractal]

In openclaw.json or your main agent can also change the model, if you ask for it

[limber garnet]

What is the path to config?

[main sand]

you can find that one easily with google search

[meager vessel]

Does openAI works?

[crude owl]

What do you mean by struggling - which part?

[jade kiln]

Just getting agents to maintain context and communicate w each other. Avoiding infinite loops and allowing them to read previous threads etc - not sure if chat is the right way for them to share context if that makes sense?

[crude owl]

1. Discord or any Channel - treat this as a Visual for human (you or your co-worker)
2. For Muti agent the best way is to use native cli - no overhead no issue
3. Whatever command you use on native cli and you still want the visual then create a helper script to trigger a discord sent

btw i am assuming you run multiple agent on the same environment, if you are doing cross environment can still be done via ssh similarly

[mighty rampart]

While it’s probably fun to watch them talk to each other, I would give them an issue tracker and let them write and assign tasks to each other. This can be as simple as text files, or you can use GitHub issues with labels, or Linear. Then they wake up, see what they’re supposed to do, do it and update the issue, and it all goes ‘round and ‘round.

[jade kiln]

Love that idea - do you use linear or something like paperclip?

[mighty rampart]

I use Forgetful for memory with semantic search, and it just got a planning feature with tasks and acceptance criteria. I am planning to switch over to that. (It’s still behind a feature flag.)

[jade kiln]

Awesome, thanks!

[jade kiln]

Thank you!

[cerulean pond]

Maybe i timed my question wrong... anyone making flowcharts out of their claw-creations? Wanted to envision a business process merged from different sources, but mermaid keeps calling for incorrect syntax and trying to fix it well... just burns tokens

[half folio]

Hi good morning all, seeing if anyone is around that could help with the following? I'd like to try oauth since I'm on the pro plan but having an issue on a mac mini.

I'm trying to set up gemini through oauth and have this error. I think it's because on my mac, gemini is launched using gemini and not gemini-cli. Does anyone know a quick fix? Could I just create a symbolic link named gemini pointing to gemini-cli? I'm not a big mac/or linux user but trying to think how to get this to work. Everything online points me to a similar issue running it in windows. Here's the error I get after trying to set up the login on mac: Error: Gemini CLI not found. Install it first: brew install gemini-cli

[mighty rampart]

Mermaid syntax is fairly complex. Even Claude Code + Opus makes broken diagrams locally sometimes. I would treat it as a coding project. First write a specification in markdown describing the process. Then have it generate the diagram. If it’s wrong, fix the specification and do it over, rather than having it try to modify the code for the diagram.

[toxic kayak]

Do I have to get the 4.5 update on github? Could updating break anything I currently have going on?

[eternal badger]

What's JSON?

[cerulean pond]

A google answer )

[cerulean pond]

Thanks for insight! Well i wanted to track dependencies in process while documenting it, because it's a process built over years of modifiying different other processes... and it's a mess. I'm doing a cleanup project and wanted to visualise while still building up. Will try with mermaid skill - at least it sounds like it could make better flows

[crude owl]

try get them to learn from https://context7.com/mermaid-js/mermaid-cli then do your work or setup mcp

[hybrid kite]

For users using sandboxing - because of all the issues in sandbox sessions would you recommend using dev instead of beta?

[daring moon]

Just switched to openai-codex OAuth and in the tui, I'm getting weird caveman thinking notes, like "Need maybe skill?" and "Need determine bug maybe" - how do I get openclaw to stop spewing this behind-the-scenes nonsense in the terminal?

[fading tide]

ive just set up agentmail so they can send emails to eachother

[fading tide]

ask your openclaw xd

[cosmic hollow]

Everything worked before 4.5 update. Since then my providers got wiped out. Finally recovered with gemini. Now, I'm trying to switch to openai and am dead in the water. Keep getting: 401 You have insufficient permissions for this operation. Missing scopes: model.request. Check that you have the correct role in your organization (Reader, Writer, Owner) and project (Member, Owner), and if you're using a restricted API key, that it has the necessary scopes.; falling back to truncation

[steady hound]

why do I get a error message from BotFather saying... Sorry, the image dimensions are invalid. Must be 640x360. I've checked and rechecked the image dimensions they are indeed 640x360.

[near totem]

"Telegram channel silently not loading. Gateway starts fine but 'starting provider' never appears in logs. Bot token is valid (confirmed via API). Config shows telegram enabled=true with correct botToken. No billing issues. OpenClaw 2026.4.2 on Debian 13. This started after lossless-claw plugin installation caused multiple gateway restarts yesterday."

[formal knoll]

I keep having issues with ACPX and Codex... I've tried fixing with opus and with gpt-5.4, but I think I've gotten myself in a hole. The two issues I have are:

1. When I spawn codex as a thread in discord via acpx, for some bizarre reason, Codex switches from my chatgpt subscription to API (pay as you go).. and I get some decent bills my way.
2. The actual thread in Discord stays empty. But codex does actually complete the task at hand in the background.

[maiden saddle]

Hey everyone! Quick question about my bot setup. I'm running a bot called OpenClaw on my server (it's just the two of us, so no worries about token limits). Right now, I have to mention the bot with @botOpenClaw to get a response. Is there a way to configure it so the bot reads and responds to every message I send automatically, without needing the mention? Where in the settings can I change this?

[real raptor]

what if you just delete your api for now, let it all set back to using oauth, then add api later?

[formal knoll]

so I completely deleted the .auth file of codex a few times. I SUSPECT what hapepns is that openclaw/acpx reads my .env file (where I do have an OpenAI API token - which I use for memory embedding etc) - and overwrites the codex auth somehow..

[real raptor]

i had similar issue, but that was like 3.13, it keep going back to my claude api, and when i force it to something else, it just wont respond, i was in pretty early stage i just reinstall the whole thing..

[formal knoll]

I can't be arsed to reinstall the full openclaw instance... but I might have to at some point..

[real raptor]

i would delete api all togehter and see how it react to it

kinda leave oc no choice, then add new api back, still pain, but seems to be easier than reinstall whole oc

[lean tiger]

there is a part of the discord config, called requiremention, ask your bot to change it to false, this way u dont need to tag it for a response, this works best when u are the only 2 on the server

[maiden saddle]

Thank you so much for the quick help! That's exactly what I needed to know. I'm heading over to the config right now to set requiremention to false. Really appreciate it!

[drifting epoch]

Hi Claw friends - has anyone figured out how to reliably allow openclaw to use the browser while logged in with a google account e.g. to go into cloudflare and change settings - WITHOUT having to ask for permission (the browser pop up) all the time?
It can spin up its own browser and do stuff but for tasks that require being signed in it launches a different instance of chrome that requires approval

this might be something i messed up when i first set up the browser profile

thanks!

[crude owl]

use cloudflare auth directly? should be easier with api?

[blissful cave]

Hi guys I’m trying to get into open claw specifically trying to get agents to handle marketing and other tasks I set for it but wondering if I would have to buy credits and how many messages before credits deplete usually? Also I got a normal windows computer and wondering if I can use that instead of the Mac mini everyone has been using? Also can ai agents currently handle marketing and that agent talks to another agent handling something else to the point where ai agents are transferring payments into your bank account so the only thing you have to do is just speak to the agents to handle literally everything for you? Do they have that capability yet?

[echo pine]

Some short answers:

• If youre not a technical person, you might be biting off a bit more than you're wanting trying to get OC to do marketing stuff

• You can use basically any computer to run OC. But if it's your primary/only computer, it's a bit of a risk of it going berserk and hosing your only system, or other random things with your data

• You'd mostly likely just get a ChatGPT subscription, and setup the Codex auth in your OC. That's the most economical/mainstream way to get going.

• No, it's not as easy to get setup as you want. If you don't want to spend weeks programming and tinkering, to maybe have it to what you want, then this might not be for you

• Check out Manus, or maybe Perplexity Computer for a more user friendly version of OC, though it's a paid product

[hard turret]

Hi guys,
Is there a way, like Hermes Agent, to add multiple OAuth (ChatGPT for myself)?

[desert plume]

Best local ai model for 32gb ram?

[robust marten]

depends what you are doing with it

[blissful berry]

For agent to agent messaging, should I be using openclaws cli, or the openclaw gateway API? It's all local on a single box, and I can only have one agent running at a time if that matters.

[blissful cave]

Thank you so much

[echo pine]

Gemma 4 as far as I know

[blissful cave]

I’ve heard great things about Gemma so far someone made a post as well mentioning you can use Claude without limits on it as well don’t know if that’s true though

[echo pine]

Gemma isn’t really smart enough to do intense planning or everything you want. You’d need an orchestrator agent, and then a Gemma agent would do some of the muscle.

[ornate moth]

Hi, can anyone help me to solve the openclaw installation problem. after I select gemini-2.5-pro as primary and gemini-2.5-flash as fallback. openclaw gave me this ⚠️ Agent failed before reply: Model context window too small (8192 tokens). Minimum is 16000. I modified openclaw.json file to add "models": {
"google/gemini-2.5-pro": {
"context_window": 1000000, then run openclaw gateway, it cannot recognize context.. In openclaw, it still show window too small. How to fix it.

[echo pine]

Check out Alex Finn’s last video. Decent overview

https://youtu.be/cNALFf9R4t4?si=ShS3PmF3MmgpYYz8

[echo pine]

Have you tried running Claude code or codex in that system and asking it this question?

[blissful cave]

thank you I am checking it out now

[ornate moth]

I use windows terminal not Claude code

[echo pine]

A tool like Claude code or codex will answer these questions for you, after looking at your openclaw folder

[ornate moth]

I use Copilot and Gemini to ask the same questions but none of their suggestion work

[echo pine]

And it looked at the openclaw folder itself? Read your configs and stuff ?

[old gull]

Has anyone been having issues where their clawbot can't execute commands from discord telegram? Since i switched from claude to chatgpt my bot has lost a lot of functionality and forgets what tools it has.

[echo pine]

Could be a gpt issued not a OC issue?

[ornate moth]

yes, I copy openclaw.json for copilot and gemini and they suggest adding context_window or context to 1000000. but openclaw cannot recognize the code

[echo pine]

You’re not using the right tools to help you. Claude code or codex that reads the entire OC folder is how I would start troubleshooting 🤙

It’ll look through, and you can walk it to a solution and start up your claw again

[ornate moth]

thank you. I will try claude code

[echo pine]

But you might need to try a model with larger context windows. Pop onto openrouter and try the qwen 3.6 free.

[desert plume]

Automation, github, etc

[blissful berry]

I'm struggling with the communication problem. I can only inject so much text into any of the agents, and if I reference files sometimes the models do not read them. What's the most reliable way to manage passing information?

[keen valve]

so im new to this whole open claw thing can some one tell me how i can run it for toatly free i just wana try it before commiting to anything paid. I also dont want to use a local model as i dont think my device can handle that very well

[real raptor]

i dont think there's any way to run for free, i know people mentioned some free like gemini flash, but it just wont work and your oc experience will be almost non-existence

gpt sometime give you first month free for plus, so that's the most free method i can think of

[swift cypress]

yea, can I dm you?

[tender cargo]

@blissful berry run some small model locally, you'll get the hang of it that way and there are models small enough to run on anything. The big models cost realy money and the AI people are just about done subsidizing our usage. it will get more costly in the future.

[desert plume]

bro why is ram so expensive

[tender cargo]

Scarcity and captalism doing what they do.

[desert plume]

anyone know ways to get ram cheap?

not paying 400 for just 64gb of ddr4

[meager vessel]

Getting chatgpt cooldown? Anyone know why?

[rare grail]

so, i am constantly hitting roadblocks for the more fancy operations. even giving it a picture it won't recognize it, it only spits stuff related on the context of the conversation. giving it a completely unrelated picture it answers some nonsense related to the discussion.

i'm assuming the hard time i had to install this on my system (CachyOS / Arch) might be the culprit. first deployment in a docker container was awful, then it wouldnt install even on baremetal.

there are so many great features that i would like to take advantage of but the clanker keeps tripping on itself with permissions or lack of means. even something simple as reading a folder structure or adding to an existing file keeps being troublesome.

am i missing something ?!

Openclaw latest version (2026.4.5?), CachyOS (Arch) and all packages updated, running on Gemma4:latest (local ollama deployment).
everything is baremetal.
i'm interacting with it either from the controlUI or from the telegram app.

i don't need it to access my google workspace or anything like that, but i'd like it to be able to do the most basic things. i tried reading the docs but it feels like it's more oriented to mac users.

[summer comet]

I switch over to the claude-cli and that was working great until sometime today .. Anywone else have issues with it? Is the work around still working for anyone?

[main sand]

Which local ollama model is best for the browser tool to work without glitches ?

[neat plume]

hey

is it alright to share an openclaw meetup event here?

[sullen ivy]

What do you guys feel is the best memory set up?

[neat plume]

or which channel is the best to share that

[sullen ivy]

Sadly I do not know but I would guess here is fine. I might ask a mod before posting in general though.

[neat plume]

will do thanks alot

[desert plume]

is anyone else just completely not able to run smalelr models of qwen locally

[neat plume]

if anyone in nyc wants to come hangout https://www.eventbrite.com/e/open-claude-meetup-tickets-1986764838113?aff=oddtdtcreator

[nimble hill]

first deployment in a docker container was awfu
I have been running on docker container for long - I tried on ubuntu 24.04 and my other node is windows in docker desktop. I am able to control browser in that win machine

[daring moon]

This channel is called "Users helping users"; my Claw has not been helpful on the topic.

/reason off seemed to help in the CLI but not in Discord, where I continue to get the caveman spam.

[sudden zealot]

getting this for all openrouter models except openrouter/auto - 404 No allowed providers are available for the selected model.

any ideas?

[half folio]

Hey guys, any thought of why I'm getting the rate limit error "⚠️ Rate-limited — ready in ~30s. Please wait a moment." when trying to connect to my local LLM? Or best way to fix? I''ve waited and get this just saying 'Hi'

[nimble hill]

If you directly use chat in your local llm doe sit work?

[half folio]

yup, sure does if I interact with it through LM Studio

[nimble hill]

Are you also able to curl from outside LM studio- since there may be a settings which allows external access

[nimble hill]

If you select specific model during onbaording, does it work?

[half folio]

yes, I can curl and get to the machine. In fact, it works for a little while and then stops. If i do a new session it works again for a little while.. and then stops, but new session loses the memory context

[nimble hill]

Then some setting in your lm studio on rate limit is what I can think off. Other cloud models work in openclaw?

[half folio]

yeah they do

should I increase my context window?

it's at 32768 already

[nimble hill]

256k is enough generally

[sudden zealot]

Fixed, it was on OR website

[summer comet]

Hard to keep up with all the messges.. but it appears the new update removed the Claude Cli hack .. is that everyone else experience ? s

[neat walrus]

Hell new update broke my dashboard entirely.. Ive been having to talk to my bot through discord all day

[desert plume]

Has anyone used the google gemma 4 31b?

[nimble hill]

Explain a bit more?

[midnight adder]

Getting a error saying Module not found"
It was working then stopped
When I troubleshoot it keeps saying it

[quiet comet]

did you try openclaw doctor --repair

[midnight adder]

Trying now

Srill says can't find module

[sudden zealot]

Had to fix settings privacy. Only had one provider setup, changed that, and now all of my models are working from open router

[karmic notch]

Looking to benchmark my Opus 4.6 initial call price (no cache discount) with what others are paying. My initial tool calls are about $0.35 followed by $0.04 with caching in play.

Can anyone else share their experience?

Work hard here to survive without the Claude CLI…

[drifting epoch]

anyone else getting intermittent openai issues? im on pro plan doing nothing too fancy, well within usage limits, and agents are failing

[odd jackal]

PS C:\WINDOWS\system32> openclaw uninstall
Exception in PromiseRejectCallback:
node:internal/modules/esm/module_job:534
const namespace = this.module.evaluateSync(filename, parentFilename);
^

RangeError: Maximum call stack size exceeded

Exception in PromiseRejectCallback:
node:internal/modules/esm/module_job:397
const namespace = this.module.evaluateSync(filename, parentFilename);
^

RangeError: Maximum call stack size exceeded

This happens when i try to opemn dashboard too

[tender holly]

Hey, how do you manage token costs budget? I assume most use openrouter do you use any additional tool to manage costs? Do you have any spend managment tool for openclaw?

[karmic notch]

Spend management is a nightmare. I’m almost ready to throw in the towel. It’s so expensive to run these agents using Claude (can’t do it with any of the other models right now). I’ve spent a small fortune trying to figure out how to keep costs “manageable”.

[nimble hill]

Use openai subscription..

[stray fjord]

Can anyone tell me what to do, when I want my openclaw to see images by using image vision model. automatically whenever i send him screenshots.

[minor forum]

perhaps we can find a way to teach gpt 5.4 to vibe like claude

[rocky nova]

So i am tired and dont want to crawl through thousands of doc pages for this seemingly niche issue... my gateway keeps dropping on local only. I open up the dashboard and i cant even get my bot running before it crashes into the ground and then restarts

Running this on a laptop. Debian 13. Brand new install. Using Ollama and Qwen 3.5 cloud

I have ollama pro

[minor forum]

I have this question too

Can you elaborate on this method?

[minor forum]

This is great, however, I have seen a few users mention that the proxy is slow and produces errors, any ideas on how to build this tool to be a better workaround?

[odd bear]

im trying to use openclaw with tailscale (in a docker container on a vps) but im getting this error on the dashboard when i try to connect on my pc: origin not allowed (open the Control UI from the gateway host or allow it in gateway.controlUi.allowedOrigins)

how can i fix that?

[ionic plinth]

I had this problem too, Perplexity helped me search for solutions which worked. (i kinda dont know what was changed) this is the response:
This new log points to a different path: the Control UI/browser connection is closing with code 1001, not the earlier auth rejection 1008, and it is coming from origin=http://127.0.0.1:18789 with a real browser user agent. That usually means the browser-side UI disconnected or reloaded, not that the gateway rejected the session for pairing.

What changed
Your gateway is running with gateway.controlUi.allowInsecureAuth=true, which is meant to let the Control UI fall back to token-only auth and skip device pairing checks on insecure HTTP setups. The warning is just telling you that this weakens security; it is not itself the cause of the disconnect.

What this suggests
Because the log now shows origin=http://127.0.0.1:18789, the browser is connecting locally, and localhost is normally treated as a secure context by the UI stack. In this situation, a known bug is that the UI may still try device identity first, cache an old gateway URL or stale identity, and then fail in confusing ways even when allowInsecureAuth is enabled.

Best next step
Do a fresh browser profile test against http://127.0.0.1:18789 only, not openclaw.local, and clear site data/localStorage for the gateway origin first. If that fixes it, the issue is cached gateway identity or an old WebSocket endpoint rather than the gateway process itself.

One config check
Also verify your Control UI config explicitly allows the localhost origins:

json
"gateway": {
"controlUi": {
"allowInsecureAuth": true,
"allowedOrigins": [
"http://127.0.0.1:18789",
"http://localhost:18789"
]
}
}
Allowed origins are part of typical working configs for local setups, especially when the browser origin must exactly match the WebSocket origin.

Open DevTools in the browser and paste the next failing WebSocket error from the Console/Network tab.

i think you need to allow the origin you connect from

[green matrix]

is anybody using OpenClaw with Gemma 4 31B? I'm having the issue that it repeats the last message verbatim from time to time and I can't figure out why; currently on Ollama Pro plan but also happened on NanoGPT (more frequently); I'm using OpenClaw 2026.4.5 currently and never hat that issue with Sonnet/Opus

[nimble hill]

if you do this "dangerouslyDisableDeviceAuth": true it will not even ask for the pairing apart from usual http! 🙂 but yes, do for experiment only

[dire pollen]

How do you guys make your agents resume a YouTube video from URL?

And how do you handle token consumption?
Just ask to resume a video from YouTube I have yt-dlp skill installed but the agent says YouTube is blocking acces.
Just that small conversation used 4M tokens from openrouter.
I’m paying to solve problems I can already use for free on Gemini or perplexity app

[green matrix]

don't have experience with the yt-dlp skill but I let Sonnet do a custom skill ("here is the website, just configure it") and that told me exactly what to do ("copy the cookies from your session") and that worked but since it ran through the Anthropic sub I don't know how much tokens that used

[nimble hill]

why don't use n8n? - develop a workflow and use it there https://docs.n8n.io/integrations/builtin/app-nodes/n8n-nodes-base.youtube/ this does not even use AI - you can call n8n workflow using openclaw

[nimble hill]

don't waste tokens, use n8n and use direct API - no AI involved

[green matrix]

it was my "let's try stuff out honeymoon" phase with OpenClaw

[nimble hill]

sure - go ahead, you would realize that openclaw is a token hogger even for smaller things. Hence, try to do reasearch in openclaw, once you have some deterministic flow finalized, do it in n8n and call from openclaw.

[green matrix]

yeah, the things I do with OpenClaw settled at this point and I'm probably doing a custom agent based on the pi.dev SDK at some point

[rocky geyser]

Hello Good people! I've been trying to find a way to do automation with openclaw and Feishu/lark docs. I installed their plugin, created a bot, gave all lark docs permissions possible but I can't make the bot interact with the docs themselves. Shared a lark docs link, even installed a skill spefically for Feishu docs but I can't get my bot do see or edit anything.

Has anyone sucessfully integrated openclaw with feishu in a way that it makes it see and edit lark docs?

[undone oriole]

has anyone been able to solve the issue with openai to actually ship stuff instead of talking, planning and then being idle mostly? I seem to have to poke him all the time :-| hope the next release will bring some optimization here, almost feeling like I have to go the api key route with claude for lots of things 🙁

[winter junco]

I am struggling with the system given below, can someone help me, ollama qwen3.5:9b just uses too much ram and peak up till total system ram usage goes to upto 90% and then it crashes, all this happens when I type "hi" to the chatbot. I have rtx 3050 (6gb Vram) intel 13450 hx, 24 gb ddr5 4800 mhz vram.

[nimble hill]

thats expected - your model is too heavy for your hardware, you can probably try with some quant. but even with that unless you run 70b+ model, you are not likely to get a good expreince and your hardware is nowhere near to support that kind of model. Use a openai subscription - start with lowest tier and check. you can also use mutliple subscription like xiaomi mimo cheapest token plan - use them primary and fallback so that it could run for sometime, until your next quota is refreshed

[eager maple]

Anyone elses openclaw keeps timing out? I have minimax 2.7 highspeed with their token plan, and it just doesn't feel as smooth.

[winter junco]

But this guy named KeithAI ran the exact same model in this video
https://youtu.be/n2a1FfqjHcU?si=b0uMOjRBEFKpAQ2B
With these specs:
CPU: Intel Core i7° -11800H (8C/16T, up to
4.6GHz)
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop
(6GB GDDR6)
RAM: 16GB DDR4 3200MHz (up to 64GB, 2 slots)
Storage: 512GB NVMe SSD (supports 2x M.2 N

[nimble hill]

well, don't believe what all influencers say, the fact being qwen3.5:9B cannot run on 6gb ram. you probably can do with q4 version with machine running at full speed (the one you are experiencing). And openclaw with that might not run at all or will be super slow so as to be unusable.

also even high end dual graphics card are also not suitable for running models "economically" speaking as the electrcity cost will be through the rough, unless electricity is cheap for you. You would need to buy either Ryzen AI + Max 395 or blackwell based - like cheaperst GMTeck evo-x2 or Asus GX10 respectively - which costs $4K to 5K.

[pallid cove]

anybody tried the memory palace memory system?

https://github.com/milla-jovovich/mempalace

mempalace sorry

[nimble hill]

Intresting

[meager vessel]

Anyone know thr solution for openai cooldown? I use The subscibtion and getting hit by cooldown time.. Cant use chatgpt in openclaw

[nimble hill]

You mean weekly timeout? You can't avoid it, choose a higher plan if the current one is not sufficient. Or try to optimize your prompts for better token economy

[strong ferry]

Anyone using openclaw in docker here?

[faint quartz]

i tried to install it on window 11 pro but didn't know how to finish

[nimble hill]

Yes, both in windows and Linux

[indigo goblet]

Cool idea but seems a lot of scripts etc for what it is actually doing.

This can be achieved more naturally and very inspectable with .md files and folders/subfolders structure.

And index, memory policy etc etc

[strong ferry]

https://hub.docker.com/r/alpine/openclaw
did you use this docker image ? i am facing some problem after the setup

[spark valley]

Did u try gemma 4

[uncut pecan]

Had anyone responded to this? Just ran into it this weekend during the onboard.

[nimble hill]

Use ghcr images
https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/tags
What oroblems? Runnign in linux or windows? in windows you cannot execute local windows commands

[strong ferry]

in windows. the "openclaw" command not being recognized

[smoky bluff]

is there anyone got 'duplicate answer' problems?

[nimble hill]

There is no difference between windows and linux images as they are same, since in windows, docker desktop uses on wsl. Are you overriding the command in compose? And use 2026.4.2

[strong ferry]

not sure but i dont think i am overiding in compose and i am on 2026.4.5

[nimble hill]

So you exec into it and it does not recognize openclaw onboard ?

[unborn zealot]

is there better openclaw now?

or it still the best

[nimble hill]

Openclaw is only one
..unless you mena the various spinoffs 😃

[strong ferry]

you mean in the docker terminal? yes it doesnt recognize in it and same in other cli too

[strong ferry]

maybe you meant things like nemo , pico , maxclaw?

[unborn zealot]

ok i guess openclaw the best

like there are many similar product like openclaw now so idk what good

they say xyz replacing openclaw

[strong ferry]

like hermes etc?

[pallid cove]

is it normal to have dozens of subagent sessions hanging around, finished? how to clean them up

[nimble hill]

No no, not in docker terminal. Once the docker container is running, you need to go into the shell of the docker container.
docker exec -it <container_name> bash
Show me your output of docker ps and I can show the exact command

[strong ferry]

90b91b154837 ghcr.io/openclaw/openclaw:latest "docker-entrypoint.s…" 14 hours ago Up 3 hours (healthy) 0.0.0.0:18789-18790->18789-18790/tcp, [::]:18789-18790->18789-18790/tcp openclaw-openclaw-gateway-1

[nimble hill]

docker exec -it openclaw-openclaw-gateway-1 bash it will go into the docker container and now you can type openclaw onboard
did you use run command or compose (docker compose...) to start the docker? since looks like you do not have persistence enabled. when you restart openclaw, you will lose all the settings

[strong ferry]

nope i restarted openclaw many times and everythings intact

[ripe grail]

algun español me echa un cable en llamda ?

[winged lagoon]

Hello, I’m facing an issue after the update the agent is not responding in Slack channels. I ran openclaw doctor --fix and checked everything, but it seems that the latest update (@latest) broke channel responses. Has anyone else encountered this issue?

[nimble hill]

if you accidentally delete the container, everything wil be gone, it is currently storing it in the temporary volume. I would suggest to use this compose file
compose.yaml

services:
  oc:
    container_name: oc
    image: ghcr.io/openclaw/openclaw:2026.4.5-slim
    environment:
      OPENCLAW_GATEWAY_TOKEN: "my-super-secret-token"
      OPENCLAW_ALLOW_INSECURE_PRIVATE_WS: "1"
    volumes:
    - ./.openclaw:/home/node/.openclaw
    ports:
    - 18789:18789
    privileged: true

To start docker compose up -d. To check the logs docker logs -f oc
to exec into the container to do setups docker exec -it oc bash
Note the volumes: section. the left side of : is the folder in your windows machine from where you are running this compose. OR you can specify something like C:<your_dir> It will store the data persistently

[red portal]

hi , how are you ? I have a problem . I can not connect OpenClaw control panel
unauthorized: gateway token missing (open the dashboard URL and paste the token in Control UI settings)
how can I fix that ?

[winged lagoon]

did u try run openclaw dashboard ?

[red portal]

yeah

thats don't fix

[winged lagoon]

Hello, I’m facing an issue after the

[half folio]

I'm hoping someone can clarify something for me. I originally set up openclaw with the anthropic api connection. I just saw a video saying you can buy prepaid budles to get a discount. I checked, and API plans don't have bundles. So the question is, how are people still using claude with discounted bundles prepaid? I think I'm missing something

[nimble hill]

have you done onboarding? openclaw onboard it will be a wizard which will ask few questions about configuring your LLM models, channel, and lastly gateway token

[red portal]

yes

o QuickStart -------------------------+
| |
| Gateway port: 18789 |
| Gateway bind: Loopback (127.0.0.1) |
| Gateway auth: Token (default) |
| Tailscale exposure: Off |
| Direct to chat channels. |
| |
+--------------------------------------+

[nimble hill]

so you would have got the gateway token - use it in the browser

[red portal]

Gateway auth: Token (default)

this?

[nimble hill]

yes - either you provided the token there or you left it blank so it would have generated and show on the screen.
alternatively, just go to where openclaw is installed, usually .openclaw and check for file openclaw.json - you would see the following entry

    "auth": {
      "mode": "token",
      "token": "xxxxxxx"

[red portal]

Wait a minute, I think I found the problem. I should probably be running this in WSL, not in the Windows CMD.

[nimble hill]

well, it is almost the same. and it has nothing do to with getting your token. Directly installing on your personal pc is generally avoided, especially if you do not know how this software works

[slow monolith]

hi, dose openclaw support persistent agents? i build a pixel office for my AI staff and they keep respawning new subagents again and again...

[gritty hamlet]

Has anyone run into issue using OpenAI 0AUTH in their claw? I have been using it no issue until yesterday morning it keeps firing back API errors

[craggy scaffold]

is there something like twscrape for facebook? I want to attatch my bot to some facebook apartment groups so i can automate my apartment hunting

[gray juniper]

the prepaid bundles are for the Anthropic API directly (you top up credits at a discount via the console). openclaw just passes your API key through, so if you have credits loaded on your anthropic account, they get used automatically. no special config needed on the openclaw side.

[ashen carbon]

Hi all, getting 'No API key found for google' error in the image tool (Gemini-1.5-Pro) despite key in 1Password and added to auth-profiles.json. v4.5 on Mac Mini, OpenClaw running local. Fixes tried: re-edit auth, gateway restart, model override. Any tips or patches? Thanks!"

[past hawk]

Hello everyone, I have a question.
I’m currently experiencing an issue with my OpenClaw setup in combination with Ollama.
My OpenClaw instance is no longer responding within my Matrix chat. I’ve verified that all local models via Ollama are working correctly when tested directly. However, when I try to interact through the chat (both via the Matrix channel and the web interface), I receive no response at all.
This issue started after updating OpenClaw to the latest version and manually updating Ollama as well.
Has anyone experienced something similar or knows how to troubleshoot this?
Thanks in advance for any help!

[terse lotus]

if its configured right and was on a now dead or otherwise inaccessible api, it can take a few messages before it wakes up....
so spam it a bit, maybe try /new in dashboard or tui chat.

if it refuses to actually start answering, its most likely misconfigured some place... so check spelling and ports and such

[terse lotus]

upgrading openclaw always seems like a painful process to me, most likely because i run local models.
usually your openclaw will have some kind of issue with the openclaw.json found at ~/.openclaw/openclaw.json

do a openclaw status and it will usually show what the issue is.

[past hawk]

I did ran the doctor and the status no problem found.

[silk fern]

hello guys, i m woring on an insurance company project and i need to iclude the openclaw workflow , some one for help pls?

[terse lotus]

oh yeah matrix.... yes the 28.03.26+ version also wrecked my matrix, its some sort of permission issue.
think it happens if you aren't using a valid tls cert.

[untold burrow]

hi

[past hawk]

@terse lotus thx mate I will first role back to a previous openclaw.json and then try some other stuff. I think the connection with matrix is ok as in the webinterface I see the content back. The only thing is there is coming no answer from the ollama instance ... ollama is working fine and the models are reacting in there norma

[terse lotus]

if you are trying out gemma4 that might also be the issue.... for some reason, i can only get that to answer simple stuff in ollama.
when i try to push an 11k token prompt it just stalls

[ashen carbon]

"Thanks for the advice! Tried spamming the image tool with 5 test photos and /new in dashboard/tui, but still 'No API key found for google' error on Gemini-1.5-Pro. Key is in 1Password, auth-profiles.json has "google": {"apiKey": "mykey"}, ports 18800 open, spelling correct. v4.5 on Mac Mini arm64, OpenClaw local. Logs clean, no errors. Any other misconfigs or fixes? Appreciate it!"

[kindred cloak]

Hey everyone, two questions about multi-agent setups:

1. Shared OAuth token between two agents (OpenAI Codex)
   I have two separate agents ("A" and "B"), each with their own auth-profiles.json, both using OpenAI Codex OAuth (subscription-based). The problem: when agent A's token expires, it refreshes and gets a new refresh token — which invalidates the one stored in agent B's auth-profiles.json. Agent B then fails to re-authenticate.
   Is there a native way in OpenClaw to share a single OAuth token between multiple agents, without resorting to a symlink between the two auth-profiles.json files? Something like a shared auth profile at a higher level, or a centralized token reference?

2. Spawning a coding-agent using Claude Code with setup-token (Anthropic subscription)
   Following Anthropic's API ban on certain use cases, is it possible to spawn a coding-agent that uses Claude Code authenticated via setup-token — meaning it uses the Anthropic subscription (Max/Pro plan) rather than the API? Has anyone managed to configure this, and if so, how does the auth handoff work between OpenClaw and Claude Code in that setup?

I've checked opened issues on GH and official documentation, but answers are unclear to me.

Thanks!

[desert grotto]

s the claude-cli gateway text backend being permanently removed, or is there a supported path to keep direct agent chat running through Claude subscription (CLI) without API billing? We're on 2026.4.1 and the 2026.4.5 changelog says the cliBackends surface is being removed — is ACP the only supported path going forward?

[placid flower]

Okay how does anyone get Openrouter running a FREE model on openclaw? I have 5 free models in line and all timeout.

[pallid cove]

the free models do have frequent unavailability, high latency and low quota. you're last in queue and the paying customers jumo in front

[ivory trail]

help, my openrouter key from klausai saying "user not found", That means I can't interact with ai! i have 65$ on balance

[unique bear]

I’m having huge issues with gpt-5.4 on my openclaw. I ask it to do something that involves coding, it starts the job and then just stops.

[ebon leaf]

Need your help folks. I have my agent (Cape is his name) currently running on GPT-5.4 on OpenClaw v4.2.

I am attempting to have my agent simply read a bunch of files from disk. There are a lot of files and it is roughly 400k tokens. I want my agent to load all the files into context so he can write a report based on the files. Instead of reading all the files, Cape will just respond that he is “reading” but he won’t actually be reading. I nudge him again and he may read a little more then send a response and stop reading again. This is unusable.

Opus 4.6 would handle this like a breeze. Although it would skip lines and I would have to have it go back and read everything.

GPT-5.4 is stuck on stupid. How do I fix this? Thank you 🙏🏻

[ebon leaf]

Sounds like we are experiencing a similar issue.

[pallid cove]

how bad is it that my injected prompt files like AGENTS MEMORY HEARTBEAT are getting truncated because they're larger than bootstrapMaxChars?

[pallid cove]

are you overloading context? that can happen

[unique bear]

I've got codex looking into it. i'll report back if it was able to fix.

Im not overloading context.

[near rover]

Howdy Claw friends ... I'm having trouble developing trust with OpenClaw 2026.4.5 (3e72c03) and this really my first setup.

My main agent Louis is handling my requests using Sonnet. He has available to him a sub agent named Nolan. In NOLAN.md I have some very explicit instructions that Nolan is not finished with his task until he has updated 2 specific files.

What's actually happening is that Louis is spawning Nolan and Nolan does his design work, but ignores the instructions to update the 2 specific files. Nolan sends his results back to Louis and then Louis is updating the files. (I specifically asked Louis who updated the 2 files and he said that he did.)

This is a small example, in my mind, but I feel like sub agents cannot be trusted to follow their explicit instructions. Am I thinking about this the wrong way? Should I approach this differently?

[royal matrix]

I keep having to renew my Google token for email and calendar updates. Is there a way around this?

[unique bear]

turns out Rocky (my CEO agent) was running a bad coding-agent skill. Codex tells me it fixed it. going to try and see if its better now.

[past hawk]

I have it on my list to try but I guess this is not the solution. 😉 ... the logic points me towards a openclaw connection prosses. For debugging I ask the model to only output the word hello. This works with the local models I have chosen in ollama fine but then in openclaw ui or via chat no answer at all.

I wonder if there is a way via console to send a prompt to openclaw. ... anyway step by step 😉.

Any further input from anyone is welcome,

Greetings and thx

[placid flower]

Does anyone know how to increase timeout time in openclaw.json so local models get proper time for coldstart? I can run a bunch of different local models using ollama, I can chat with them no problem in ollama once loaded, but I can't seem to transition to openclaw. On a 3090ti 24gb.

[rustic pier]

Anyone using the auto-router on OpenRouter? Or do you recommend explicitly selecting a model(s)?

[tawny turtle]

I'm finding that gpt 5.4 is significantly less proactive about tool calling than opus. Always responds with "we should do x" but won't actually do it. Anyone seen this and been able to effectively fix it with something in AGENTS.md or something?

[trim flicker]

I bounce between gpt-5.4 and openrouter

[sturdy echo]

Same here trying to use only free models

[trim flicker]

Yeah I dropped $10 in there but use free models sometimes

[sturdy echo]

is 10 $ enough to set openclaw up

[trim flicker]

Openrouter if you park $10 there you get way more daily limits in free model

[sturdy echo]

fr ? Im a broke 17 year old looking for a job so im trying to safe on every edge

[hard nest]

Hey Everyone I am trying to get openclaw subagents to work, I am using an uncensored version of gemma 4 27B and i created the subagent, the main agent has access to all subagents "*" but when i tell openclaw to give any command to the subagent or test. it will just roleplay or pretend to give the subagent the command

I am not sure what is going on but ive hit a roadblock and youtube videos are not helping

[trim flicker]

Honestly I feel like that is all it is ever doing. Make separate agents with different souls and workspaces

[fast ruin]

Hello Clawsters. I have Slack integration working, but Claw cannot read file attachments. Even a simple .txt file. It can see the metadata, but can't see the file itself. It says "Still just seeing the filename, no content yet. The file data itself isn't making it through to me."

I've been through all the Slack permission settings and they're correct.

Any clues?

[rustic pier]

This might be a stupid question, but OpenAI doesn't have an OAuth for GPT 5.4 like Claude used to offer, right? You have to use the API only?

[exotic gate]

wheres a good place to pay someone to one-on-one call to optimize my workflow?

[trim flicker]

100% has OAuth. I'm on $20/month sub

[rustic pier]

oh word thank gawd

[unique bear]

fixed!

[green sundial]

what does:
16:42:16-04:00 [bonjour] watchdog detected non-announced service; attempting re-advertise (gateway fqdn=6KRCN94 (OpenClaw)._openclaw-gw._tcp.local. host=openclaw.local. port=18789 state=probing)

mean and why does it keep coming up in my command prompt for the gateway server?

[trim flicker]

Yeah. Beware of limits though. It will shut you down. There are 5h and weekly limits. That's when I fallback to openrouter.

[placid flower]

is that using auto model?

[pallid cove]

I have lots of sessions (150+ I use lots of subagents) and I can't get rid of them. my agent says they're child subsessions of the main session, and that's why openclaw sessions cleanup --enforce didn't clean them up
ideas? is this a bug?

[trim flicker]

Free but yes it rotates

[pallid cove]

looks like it is, a possible solution is to stop that main session and then run cleanup

nah, I just mass deleted sessions through the web UI, that was buggy but finally worked

[rustic pier]

Copy, in your experience are the usage limits roughly similar to Claude or less?

[trim flicker]

No experience with Claude. I think it can go pretty quickly on the weekly limit. Not sure I would spend more and I am a heavy user

[ebon leaf]

Same here.

[gaunt falcon]

i am having the hardest time getting my agent to send me the daily brief via email when hes done creating it. for some reason no matter how i word it in the prompt ive even included the path tot he skill. for gog and hestilll fucking ignores it

asdjklgakl;sdga;klsdl;

anyone have any advice?

how to force my agent to execute the gog skill after hes edone creatintg a daily brief?

[subtle pine]

I put together an OpenClaw SecretRef exec provider for pass (fully open-source, no hosted secret manager needed).

What it does

• keeps secrets out of plaintext openclaw.json
• resolves secrets via a wrapper script + pass
• uses OpenClaw secrets.providers with source: "exec"

Includes

• wrapper script (scripts/pass-wrapper.sh)
• sanitized config example (openclaw.sample.json)
• setup + troubleshooting notes

Repo: https://github.com/vitotafuni/openclaw-pass

If anyone tests it on Linux/macOS or with different pass layouts, I’d love feedback.
Relevant docs:

• https://docs.openclaw.ai/gateway/secrets
• https://docs.openclaw.ai/reference/secretref-credential-surface

[sacred swallow]

I have this exact same error - anybody else got this apart from the 2 users and myself ?

https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/issues/61875

it only happens when running anything start with ‘openclaw agent xxx’

E.g. ‘openclaw agent —help’ results in the same error so I’m unable to invoke any agent related command

[rustic pier]

I'm testing out 5.4 right now, and it definitely feels like a nerf compared to Opus. Hopefully, I can find a way to reoptimize my setup for this.

[trim flicker]

I mean opus is a beast. But let me talk you openrouter free is a joke compared to gpt-5.4. It's ok for conversation but not for doing or coding. Gpt is OK and way better than free

[tawny turtle]

If you figure it out lmk. Opus is an awesome coworker. For over 2 months it's been my daily driver, coauthor, planner, etc, and I use codex as my primary coding agent. Can't afford to use opus anymore with the sub changes but I'm not happy about it

[forest sparrow]

anybody use openrouter with open claw? i'm trying to figure out if i need any custom settings on the site

[icy tiger]

i cant get my discord linked with openclaw it keeps giving error messages

[fading field]

I have used it. Its not good

[icy tiger]

whats the best to link with openclaw for coding? claude code?

[forest sparrow]

any recommondations? i'm looking for something with a lot of model choices

[fading field]

GPT or Gemini

[fading field]

^

[fading field]

you have to show us what error message you are getting

[icy tiger]

Error [ERR_UNSUPPORTED_ESM_URL_SCHEME]: Only URLs with a scheme in: file, data, and node are supported by the default ESM loader. On Windows, absolute paths must be valid file:// URLs. Received protocol 'c:'

and i ask claude and follow its steps and nothing wors

[fading field]

Thats a node.js error. Ask Gemini CLI to fix this

[hard nest]

have had a hit or miss on using gemini to install node.js

had it install outdated version before and took a while to fix

Just watch out for that i think the latest rn is 2.22 or 22.2.4

[solemn ridge]

is it possible for a openclaw bot to create channels?

[wary sapphire]

Any cheaper ways to have SMS on openclaw than twillio or buying a mac min? Twillio is like 1$ per 100 messages

[serene carbon]

Google Chat channel returns 401 Unauthorized on every webhook POST to /googlechat. Gateway is running, plugin loads, ngrok tunnel works.
Config: audienceType project-number, audience 790176420666, service account JSON is valid.
Tried app-url with ngrok URL too.
What am I missing? #openclaw-rogue

[lethal forge]

how to make nvidia build models be thinking with openclaw

[proud plaza]

Hi guys. New to the Claw.

My issues is Telegram group chat not receiving messages — but DMs work fine

Setup: OpenClaw 2026.4.5, Mac mini (macOS, arm64), two Telegram bot accounts (one per agent)

Problem: Bot is in a Telegram group, privacy mode disabled, "has access to messages" confirmed — but no group messages are delivered to the agent. DMs on the same bot work perfectly.

What I've tried:

• Verified privacy mode disabled via BotFather
• curl to api.telegram.org/getMe works fine (network OK)
• Created a brand new group — same issue
• Removed and re-added the bot
• Updated from 2026.4.2 → 2026.4.5
• Full gateway stop/start (not just restart)
• Set channels.telegram.defaultAccount to the correct bot
• requireMention: false and groupPolicy: "open" both set correctly

Interesting detail: I have a second bot account for a different agent. That bot had the same problem but started working after toggling privacy mode in BotFather. The first bot still doesn't work despite identical settings.

[fair vortex]

im literrally having the exact problem bruh

[fair vortex]

same omg

ive been trying for a few hours now

[frank agate]

What can I run locally to do image gen/edits that isn't a pile ? (I tried LocalAI, had to patch the sh*t outa it, ComyUI is like friggin photoshop)

the docs seem to indicate all paid providers

[true vigil]

hello I know you might think m a monkey for not knowing this but I cannot figure out where to put my api key for the past 30 mins I'm triyng to set it up using the giu version pls help it's 4am and m hungry

[storm wren]

What's going on 😭

[4/8, 09:50] Фитра Феп: Show me ram usage
[4/8, 09:51] Ebot: <minimax:tool_call>
<invoke name="exec">
<parameter name="command">free -h</parameter>
</invoke>
</minimax:tool_call>

[lethal forge]

will get banned for using gemini cli oauth?

[fringe bobcat]

Hey everyone , I'm willing to pay someone who can help me connect my Google tools (Drive, Gmail, etc.) to my setup. I've been struggling just to get Drive connected and it's driving me crazy lol. If you've done this before and know what you're doing, drop me a message let's talk!

[lethal forge]

i can help

[plucky escarp]

Does anyone know of a good Mission Control setup guide? I'm having a hard time setting it up with a VPS.

[frank agate]

literally in the config file, did you read the wiki? 🙂

[true vigil]

where?

[frank agate]

also you can just do this after install: openclaw configure

[fringe bobcat]

Hey, I sent a friend request/message thanks.

[true vigil]

thanks boss!

[iron shuttle]

The latest version (2026.4.7) has a packaging bug — the Telegram plugin is missing src/channel.setup.js, which breaks the gateway startup. I'd avoid upgrading until they patch it. You could also report it on their GitHub if you want. (anyone got this with the new update)

[frank agate]

ah damn hot garbage: Apr 08 03:35:01 openclaw1 node[66264]: 2026-04-08T03:35:01.025+00:00 [security] blocked URL fetch (url-fetch) target=http://192.168.1.15:8082/v1/images/generations reason=Blocked hostname or private/internal/special-use IP address Apr 08 03:35:01 openclaw1 node[66264]: 2026-04-08T03:35:01.027+00:00 [tools] image_generate failed: Blocked hostname or private/internal/special-use IP address raw_params={"prompt":"A realistic red apple on a white background, high quality, detailed","size":"1024x1024"}

[winter junco]

Can I try gemma4:2b or 4b then?

[azure fiber]

Guys need opinion- I run my setup in my personnel mac, but since it's not on 24*7, I am not fully utlising it. Should I explore using VPS, if yes then any suggestions?

[junior glade]

Did 4.7 update and it broke discord and telegram connections....

[lean verge]

hello

[signal ore]

Hey guys ! I built a platform similar to many “Mission Control” I have implemented a lot of guardrails too, but let’s say I have an orchestrator even thought there are agents and AGENTS.md is updated clearly to make sure this orchestrator only works as a orchestrator , it ends up doing everything and uses all tokens and never passes it to to correct ones. I even tried building individual identity document and collating them in one more to explain what each of them do but during a big task, the orchestrator assumes itself with a new role and does that new job and screws up . How do you make sure this pipeline is automated and is not driven only by me at every stage , if I gave to do similar to work, then of course I would be doing a lot of guardrails but this is different and has mostly md files managing most of the things.

Do want to mention , I’m not using Anthropic , I’m using Minmax M2.7 as of now.

[signal ore]

At one stage, I requested to to provide SessionID when an agent is called and it created me a fake session which I didn’t find in logs.

[signal ore]

Alex Finn setup is good.

[nimble hill]

Ha ha. Will hardly work.

[forest zealot]

Hi, Have a Query we are planning to build an Agent using openclaw for marketing team can you guys share any ideas on what can be build

[prime fern]

man. how can i stop my openclaw from lying to me?

[winged lagoon]

wich model are u using ?

[prime fern]

kimi cloud

[winged lagoon]

try setup this frist
https://capodieci.medium.com/ai-agents-003-openclaw-workspace-files-explained-soul-md-agents-md-heartbeat-md-and-more-5bdfbee4827a

and tell me wich use case has problem with lying ?

[wicked harbor]

Hey everyone! Been reading through threads and forums — can't figure out: is there still a way to use Claude with OpenClaw through CLI subscription (not API key) after the April 4th changes? If yes — would appreciate help setting it up. If not — which channel should I follow for current alternatives and workarounds? General?

[autumn niche]

+1 same situation

[flat tinsel]

(IM SOMEWHAT NEW TO STUFF BUT CLEARLY I UNDERSTAND) alright im in one hell of a pickle because my setup is a little interesting, im running a 6600xt which ollama doesnt support, so i did the amd for ollama setup with sdk/rocm driver stuff, i then had a WSL2 of ubuntu running my openclaw and these linked to eachother local host running qwen3.5:4b on my 6600xt through ollama serve, it was good enough it worked and this all took me like 3 days to set up BUT right now i keep getting hit with the issue, even swapping my model qwen3.5:2b, after using different versions of this command for "different amounts?" (openclaw config set agents.defaults.compaction.reserveTokensFloor 100000) (i would use like 8000 or 16000 etc). i have a custom context amount set for my qwen3.5:4b its set to 16k context + 8192 of "max tokens"? and this ran fine but now i have THE ISSUE SORRY FOR RANTING:

⚠️ Context limit exceeded. I've reset our conversation to start fresh - please try again.

To prevent this, increase your compaction buffer by setting agents.defaults.compaction.reserveTokensFloor to 20000 or higher in your config.

WHAT DO I DO ABOUT THIS

[narrow egret]

yes, you can opt in for a VPS

[tough plank]

anyone know how to solve that after update?

Error: Cannot find module '@buape/carbon'
Require stack:

• /home/openclaw/.nvm/versions/node/v22.22.0/lib/node_modules/openclaw/dist/ui-ztuR6rec.js

[lyric valve]

same here, anyone can help with this problem?

[eager maple]

Minimax 2.7 feels so stupid compared to claude

[abstract dagger]

Yeah. My experience thus far has been Minmax m2.7 < Claude Sonnet < Claude Opus < OpenAI GPT 5.4

Also if you're cheap as I am the $20/mo ChatGPT plus plan is hard to beat. I was running my claw off Claude Sonnet in metered API mode and it blew through its allotted $$ SO fast.

[prime fern]

thx! reviewing now. any idea how to sync a tui session with discord chat?

im ready to give up on openclaw the just start using hermes. openclaw consistently gives me wrong info and fails to follow simple instructions and hard set rules

it constantly tells me that it failed to follow explicit rules because it was lazy or tried to use a shortcut. when i tell it not to be lazy or use shortcuts it still does it. r*tarded

the openclaw doctor cant fix sh*t

basically useless

i spend hours trying to "train" it to automatically tell me when the gateway has been restarted after a gateway restart has been performed. and after hours of working on this it still cant figure out how to do this simple task. pathetic

[crude owl]

Gateway down - no agents run, what you need to do is just write to the agents BOOTS file

[plucky escarp]

The finished product is good but their is no setup happening in the video

[frozen kindle]

i am still on version 2026.3.24, because the new versions (3.28, 3.31, 4.2)dont works with openrouter free models, i got an error "change thinking mode". Is it fixed in In the latest version, or buggied, or what you think about: which version is "Stable on maximum"?

[obsidian spear]

Is openclaw cli too slow? or is it because I am running it on Raspberry Pi 4 with 8 GB RAM? I am using LLM cloud providers.

[nimble hill]

No, openclaw should not take much processing power unless you have too many agents runnign always. You might want to chekc your cpu and ram. Maybe other things are affecting.
You have desktop on rpi or only server os?

[obsidian spear]

Only server. Headless.

[nimble hill]

And you are running openclaw dorectly pr on docker container?

[obsidian spear]

I don't exactly remember but I don't think it was this slow a couple of weeks back. Running it directly.

[nimble hill]

Okay, I run in container and never faced an slowness issue - also becuase I give spefici cpu and ram to that container

[prime fern]

at least hermes actively tells me when it is restarting the gateway and also notifies me when the gateway is restarted by default. i cant even train openclaw to do it. stupid...

[obtuse iron]

Greetings, earthlings. I have come across a rather opaque problem with OpenClaw this morning and I wanna hear if anyone knows what's up or has experienced similar

I had my agent make some configuration changes, then it restarted the gateway, and temporarily stalled the session as expected when self-restarting the gateway.... All good so far. But, when I send a message to bump it awake again, no reply in Discord. I go to the control UI through tailnet and send a message there, and the bot replies simply "NO" (nothing else)

I tried openclaw status, openclaw doctor with fix, no luck so far.

[obsidian spear]

I will see if I I can migrate my installation to docker.

[obtuse iron]

I've gotten the "NO" reply three times in a row, quite curious

[obsidian spear]

It is revolting.

[silk fern]

huh?

[obtuse iron]

(tantrum bot lol)

[obtuse iron]

yeah exactly hahaha

[nimble hill]

Not sure if that was the root cause though. You might want to format and install the headless again, install docker engine and use

[obtuse iron]

I'm travelling today but if you reach out by DM we can schedule a time for a detailed session together if you're interested

sounds like you're looking for more in-depth help rather than a bit of troubleshooting

[nimble hill]

For real deterministic flow, I always use n8n, openclaw calls n8n worflow hence I get some reliability in certain tasks without pulling my hair with openclaw

[obtuse iron]

openclaw logs --follow did not reveal anything helpful unfortunately

[rustic pier]

Is 4.8 stable? Anyone getting major issues?

[inland knot]

How are yall coding on a budget? What IDE ar you using? I'm willing to build 4 landing pages/websites per month for my portfolio

[inland knot]

Not yet