users-helping-users

[copper nova]

this isn't a openclaw issue tho

it's a amazon ec2 permissions issue or something

you need to ask it less specific questions lol

[compact olive]

Isn't it an installation and lack of documentation? 2 methods of installation.

1 works without issue.
1 works with issue.

Only difference is the method of installation.

[copper nova]

like "why can't I install node"

or just "install xxx node version for me"

[compact olive]

EC2 permissions worked fine on the curl install. Was able to invoke bedrock without issues. It's not definative.

Also node was already installed on 2 different servers I tested with. I made sure dependencies were setup beforehand.

Also why would I ask Claude to do that when I can just do it myself and it'll be faster.

[copper nova]

well something is broken with it if it can't install the right version of NPM right?

[compact olive]

That I agree with.

[copper nova]

so ask claude to debug that

not ask openclaw stuff

[compact olive]

That's why I said it's an installation and (should have said or) documentation issue.

[steel bolt]

Well I re-entered my OpenAI login key and now it tells me its the wrong one.

[copper nova]

do you have codex or w.e. installed?

[steel bolt]

No its a fresh install in my VM

[copper nova]

just ask codex how to fix for you

install codex and tell gpt 5.4 to fix this for you

this is what I do but with claude code

[steel bolt]

is codex another AI?

[copper nova]

it's the tool that comes with your openAI subscription

[sterile steppe]

your event loop is just a cron and files??

[copper nova]

Isnt it what their CLI tool is?

[sterile steppe]

@tall meteor ?

[jaunty stag]

Floppy disk drive would be A: or B:, D: is the second hard drive.

[copper nova]

Yea so I was right, wtf you sayin lol

[vivid tartan]

hi, I succesfully installed openclaw to my laptop and I am using Ollama Gemma3:4b model, but I dont have enough RAM to run the model and I want to run my openclaw locally. Does anyone have suggestion what to do, thanks

[copper nova]

just curious, where did you get this information to setup like this?

[sterile steppe]

use a provider with an api key, if you do not have the ram for gemma3 4B model your system is probably not strong enough to run much of anything useful

[vivid tartan]

I watched a bunch of youtube videos and they suggested to run local LLM (Ollama) since running with OpenAI risk your data being watch(?) CMIIW

[copper nova]

which influencer?

[sterile steppe]

these suggestions didnt mention system requirements?

[vivid tartan]

they did mention 16gb ramTT

[vivid tartan]

I forgot

[sterile steppe]

and you have 16gb vram

[copper nova]

I need to know who to unfollow lol

[vivid tartan]

nope:(

lmao

[sterile steppe]

well then? LMAO

[vivid tartan]

so is it okay to use provider api key?

[sterile steppe]

that is what about 98.999% of everyone in this community does.

[copper nova]

we all do it, they not gonna care about your vibe coded hello world app

[vivid tartan]

ohh I seee

[copper nova]

but find which influencer brought you here

[vivid tartan]

I'm kinda new to this

[sterile steppe]

hey hey, he might be making top secret stuff for [redacted redacted] lol

[copper nova]

they still have a government?

[vivid tartan]

lol nothing near that side

[copper nova]

did the person atleast tell you not to do this on your personal computer?

[vivid tartan]

yess

and I only hv my personal computer

[copper nova]

...

I don't know who to hate now

[sterile steppe]

hey it isnt the guides fault the tutorial told him he needed 16gb vram this user has gone rogue, and throw away the tutorial instructions lol

[copper nova]

install on a VPS

not your personal computer

[vivid tartan]

:o

[sterile steppe]

nah nah use k8 and spin up docker containers LOL

[copper nova]

shut your mouth

[sterile steppe]

LMAO brah

[vivid tartan]

so the risk comes when u install it in ur personal pc?

[sterile steppe]

yes

[copper nova]

@sterile steppe will guide you, I don't know shit about VPS setup

[vivid tartan]

ohhh

smh why r u guys so smart

[sterile steppe]

I am a trash panda

[copper nova]

you really trust an robot with your google passwords?

[sterile steppe]

lol

[copper nova]

we actually dumb AF

and midly autistic

[vivid tartan]

not at all😭

LMAO

[sterile steppe]

yeah I am autistic

[copper nova]

we definitely on the spectrum

[vivid tartan]

so if I run it on VPS, it wont be able to access my password then?

[sterile steppe]

good, then you understand why having it on your personal system with all your personal accounts is a bad idea

[vivid tartan]

ohh icic

[sterile steppe]

as long as you set it up with its own accounts and dont login to your personal accounts on vps

[copper nova]

a VPS is clean computer, no logins nothing

[sterile steppe]

unless he logins into google on vps

[copper nova]

create a Gmail account etc for this robot to use

[vivid tartan]

ohh

[sterile steppe]

give it an atomicmail.io

[copper nova]

why the fucjk

[vivid tartan]

then when I connect to my telegram to chat with the openclaw, it can only access data that I allow it to access then?

[copper nova]

just use a gmail

[vivid tartan]

okk

[sterile steppe]

gmail limits the amount of accounts you can have and you are technically advising a ToS violation

[copper nova]

why the fuck would you use some random ass SMTP

gmail lets you oauth into everything

[sterile steppe]

atomicmail is privacy first and good lol

[copper nova]

github

social media

everything

why the fuck would you use something else

you crazy

[sterile steppe]

because I dont want to violate google ToS and have my main account banned from everything including my phone LMAO

[copper nova]

I bet that has never happened ever

I have like 20 gmail accounts

[sterile steppe]

HOW bro

how

[copper nova]

one for each 🌽 site

literally one for every failed startup I created

you crazy dude lol

[vivid tartan]

I check and google doesnt hv ToS for gmail accounts

[copper nova]

don't listen to that crack head

creat a gmail account

[vivid tartan]

okk

sowhen I connect to my telegram to chat with the openclaw, it can only access data that I allow it to access then?

[copper nova]

your openclaw can only access data on it's own computer

not on your phone

[vivid tartan]

oh so if i want to give it documents to remember on, i need to save this docs on the VPS?

[copper nova]

you can send it through telegram and it will save on the computer it's on

btw, did this influencer by chance tell you this thing ran his entire 500k/month business on some local LLM model?

[vivid tartan]

yes--

[copper nova]

that you should of joined his Skool community to learn more?

[sterile steppe]

maybe read the tos bro
https://policies.google.com/terms

[vivid tartan]

lmaoo

[copper nova]

ignore this fear mongerer

I never once heard of someone getting banned for such a thing

[sterile steppe]

bro I cant make any accounts anymore

like at all

lol

[copper nova]

it's not like you're creating a million accounts for a bot farm

[sterile steppe]

its legit for a bot

lol

[copper nova]

yea ONE

[sterile steppe]

YOLO create an account ignore the ToS lmao

[copper nova]

you wanna bet 99% of people in this discord did the exact same thing?

you wildin

[sterile steppe]

yolo out fam

[nimble hill]

not sure why it is a problem to create a specific gmail account to be used with openclaw. What I generally do is I have other account - not just gmail - they feed the required mails to this specfic gmail account (managed by openclaw / n8n) and then let openclaw / n8n does its thing. If you are scared to let openclaw manage your original gmail / other accounts, you can use this strategy. Hence, even if you get banned, just create a new one! 🙂 and you original emails are still there in their original accounts

[keen coral]

hey guys i am trying

export DISCORD_BOT_TOKEN="YOUR_BOT_TOKEN"
openclaw config set channels.discord.token --ref-provider default --ref-source env --ref-id DISCORD_BOT_TOKEN --dry-run
openclaw config set channels.discord.token --ref-provider default --ref-source env --ref-id DISCORD_BOT_TOKEN
openclaw config set channels.discord.enabled true --strict-json
openclaw gateway

but when i start gateway i get error that discord bot token is missing (I did replace my token with YOUR_BOT_TOKEN)

{"0":"{"subsystem":"gateway/secrets"}","1":"[SECRETS_RELOADER_DEGRADED] SecretRefResolutionError: Environment variable "DISCORD_BOT_TOKEN" is missing or empty.","_meta":{"runtime":"node","runtimeVersion":"22.22.1","hostname":"unknown","name":"{"subsystem":"gateway/secrets"}","parentNames":["openclaw"],"date":"2026-03-25T04:45:34.415Z","logLevelId":5,"logLevelName":"ERROR","path":{"fullFilePath":"file:///home/ahmed/.npm-global/lib/node_modules/openclaw/dist/subsystem-DISldKSB.js:454:14","fileName":"subsystem-DISldKSB.js","fileNameWithLine":"subsystem-DISldKSB.js:454","fileColumn":"14","fileLine":"454","filePath":".npm-global/lib/node_modules/openclaw/dist/subsystem-DISldKSB.js","filePathWithLine":".npm-global/lib/node_modules/openclaw/dist/subsystem-DISldKSB.js:454","method":"logToFile"}},"time":"2026-03-25T05:45:34.417+01:00"}
and i cant start the gateway , any solutions or alternatives to set the token in some other way?

[sterile steppe]

looks like you are not passing the discord bot token correctly

[keen coral]

ye the env file doesnt get created unless done manually, i had to create it to fix the issue

[sweet marlin]

has any1 got a good system to auto renew expiring 0auth tokens

[worthy sandal]

Hello 😄

anyone using ollama for their openclaw?

[copper nova]

What AI influencer sent you here? Was it of promises of this running your 500k/month business?

[worthy sandal]

no, lol. I am just experimenting with it. I have a lot of hardware laying around which I can utilize I think

[copper nova]

Ok good, @sterile steppe help this mans

[worthy sandal]

⎿  API Error: 400 {"type":"error","error":{"type":"invalid_request_error","message":"registry.ollama.ai/library/gemma3:4b does not support tools"},"request_id":"req_63cd2a1b14edad794afd37de"}

🤔

which model should I use which supports "tools"

[high heron]

big models

[worthy sandal]

but like how big?

[copper nova]

Gonna have to look it up, probably bigger models

[worthy sandal]

I have only 24GB ram

[high heron]

dont use ollama

[copper nova]

Something google can answer for you

[high heron]

idk, the smallest ive tried was gpt oss 120B

if u cant run kimi, then dont use local models

[copper nova]

So like 256gb ram?

He's just experimenting

Let him fuck around and find out

[high heron]

for oss?

worst choice u can make is to use local model 💀

[copper nova]

Just know it aint gonna do very much other than say good morning to you

[worthy sandal]

man don't demotivate me like that 😭

but I guess you are telling the truth

[high heron]

wts wrong with other providers....

wt made u to use ollama 💀

[worthy sandal]

okay so what do you recommend I mean I don't want to pay money since I am doing for fun and not for money

[high heron]

oauth.

[sterile steppe]

without knowing your hardware we can not recommend which model to run

[high heron]

like chatgpt, qwen, kimi...etc

[worthy sandal]

wait chatgpt support oauth ? 😮

last time I checked it was asking for API key

[high heron]

codex oauth

[worthy sandal]

ah I see

nice nice so I can experiment with it \o/

@high heron can I ask you some more question please?

[high heron]

yea

[worthy sandal]

okay, I am currently on fedora silverblue and I want to setup openclaw with oauth how can I approach this.

[high heron]

no idea wt fedora silverblue is

but just

openclaw onboard

and select openai

and select openai oauth

[worthy sandal]

okay so when I openai it will open my browser and then I can just click on login with google or something right?

wow I didn't know it was this simple

[high heron]

yea

[copper nova]

I still support messing around with local llm if your curious

Just know they gonna be kinda gimped

But i always support curiosity and learning

[worthy sandal]

@copper nova @high heron I have successfully installed openclaw \o/

😄

[dark glacier]

Hi. After updating openclaw from 2026.3.13 to 2026.3.23-2, I couldn't execute openclaw using child_process in node.js.

The error:
/bin/sh: 1: openclaw: not found
Error: Command failed: openclaw agent --agent main --message "/new" --deliver --reply-channel telegram --reply-to <tg>
/bin/sh: 1: openclaw: not found

at genericNodeError (node:internal/errors:983:15)
at wrappedFn (node:internal/errors:537:14)
at checkExecSyncError (node:child_process:916:11)
at execSync (node:child_process:988:15)
at initAndExecuteOpenclawAgent (/root/Documents/backend/utils/openclaw.js:6:30)
at /root/Documents/backend/routes/api/job_links.js:190:13

How do i fix it?

NOTE: I'm able to run this command manually

[sacred cairn]

help ，I'm running into this error. How can I fix it。。[openclaw] Unhandled promise rejection: Error [ERR_UNSUPPORTED_ESM_URL_SCHEME]: Only URLs with a scheme in: file, data, and node are supported by the default ESM loader. On Windows, absolute paths must be valid file:// URLs. Received protocol 'c:'

[iron anchor]

hello is there docker tag to have latest dev/test version with latest patches ? - i have resolveMatrixAccountStringValues error (use local private dockerized matrix/synapse)

[dark glacier]

what is the environment variable OPENCLAW_HIDE_BANNER?

[little frost]

I have a problem with google chat channel for OpenClaw, everything seems ok configured but chatting with it doesn t work after the last update, before worked, from google cloud logs it says 401 Unauthorized, some more info: App type: GSuite Add-on (not pure Chat App)
Google signs JWTs with: [e-mail]
audienceType: "project-number", audience: "493916406336", appPrincipal set correctly
Still getting 401 — OpenClaw appears to be verifying the JWT against the serviceAccountFile public key instead of fetching Google's public JWKS for the add-on SA //when i go to service account it is not the gcp-sa-gsuiteaddons which appears in google chat api, it is a different service account email but the one in google chat api configuration is read only, please help

[elder glacier]

I can't for the life of me figure out how you're meant to connect to mcps with OC running in a docker container, can someone show me docs please?

and to also connect to chrome using playwright or chrome dev tools on host machine

[foggy veldt]

Bug: Agent "stuck" in loops – Acknowledges but doesn't execute tools
The Issue: My agent (ctxgpt-5.3-codex) confirms it's starting a task but never actually triggers the tool/Exec call. It stays in a "talk-only" loop.

Example:

User: "Run a diagnostic on my cron jobs."

Agent: "On it! I'm checking logs and testing the script now..."

Reality: No command is actually sent. The agent just stops there.

User: "You didn't do anything yet."

Agent: "You're right. Launching the real diagnostic right now!" -> Still no tool call.

Details:

Model: ctxgpt-5.3-codex

Behavior: It "hallucinates" that it has started the process but doesn't output the actual Exec block. This is a recent regression; it used to work fine.

Has anyone seen this "lazy agent" behavior? Is there a way to force the tool-triggering logic or fix the context? Thanks!

Please help me, my openclaw cant work now

[gritty flint]

Hey guys is there any viable solution for openclaw to spawn a new agent which only executes deterministic scripts extracting variables from the user input message and bypass the LLM or just adds a new deterministic workflow mode agent?

[nimble hill]

Just clal n8n. Setup your deterministic flow in n8n. N8n workflows can be called via rest api calls

[gritty flint]

But then can the original Openclaw agent loop be bypassed by the calling to n8n? Or can the message from user input be totally routed into n8n?
Otherwise another my 200k tokens might be burned in vain.

[gritty flint]

I mean it should be me to just provide the deterministic script for an agent to run locally on inbound message and report the same words every time to user as soon as it's done.
No need to use LLM

[nimble hill]

what do you mean? when opencalw calls to n8n via rest (& if you have designed the workflow there correctly) it will return you the results as JSON. Then opencalw can interprest that via LLM and show you the results. or ask it to show the results directly.
OR you can completely skip opencalw and just have n8n without any agent node

[gritty flint]

But n8n don't have feishu/lark native integration like openclaw

[nimble hill]

then do as I stated earlier - opencalw call n8n

[gritty flint]

When openclaw calls n8n, that stills needs a initial calling to LLM for the agent itself to determine how to call n8n, isn't it?
However I just don't want any LLM part involved at all within openclaw.

Just because of that meaningless initial call from the agent, my 10k token would be burned in vain

Because the whole loop is deterministic, I just need to triger it from feishu/lark reliably, and I don't need LLM at all~

[nimble hill]

openclaw always depends upon LLM - hence I say openclw is a token hogger. However, if you give a direct n8n URL for your workflow to opencalw and ask it to make REST api call and collect details. It would use less token and not search for any plugin and skill

[gritty flint]

You are right dude, even I would follow your guide and just /newing a session with every .md 0KB I still have my 10k tokens burned

[nimble hill]

how do you call opencalw from Feishu/lark?

[gritty flint]

Just like messaging to another live person

[nimble hill]

which will again use token. Check Feishu/lark docs or use Claude to check how you can call a rest API. If you can, then directly call the n8n workflow. You do not need openclaw

[gritty flint]

Thank you for all the reaching out~
I will try to find feishu/lark integration for n8n~

[nimble hill]

it just rest call (https call) - i am sure there would be some plugin to call a URL

[gritty flint]

But it seems that openclaw cannot make calls to n8n URL from feishu/lark trigger without the LLM😥

[nimble hill]

as I said openclaw "Always" needs LLM. What I stated is skip openclaw altogether. From Feishu/Lark check how can you call a N8n URL - rest api is just a fancy name for a URL

[gritty flint]

Gotcha

[nimble hill]

after you have done that, and want some data to be used with AI - n8n itself has Ai agent node, which are far more efficient than openclaw, since you can control lot of stuff (context, memory, outputs) there. just in case you need it

[deft copper]

I want OpenClaw to automatically generate content by topic and then post it to my fanpage—how can I do that?

[foggy veldt]

For the person who has the same problem, just switch to gpt5.2, 5.3 have a bug

[thorny cobalt]

Hey guys im really trying to use Openclaw since almost 2 weeks. I have Claude pro, Chatgpt Plus Subscription. I didnt really manage to really do sth with it. like the amount im spending fixxing something i already reach my api limit. i mean i still dont have the setup which i wanted to have. im not sure am i doing sth wrong or is it the reality that u need a fcking 200 dollar sub to be able to do sth with openclaw

[vestal forge]

use agentmail

[nimble hill]

No thanks - not another avoidable cloud service with data as critical as emails

[queen rover]

Telegram inbound seems broken on current stable (2026.3.23-2)

I can confirm:

• bot token is valid
• outbound Telegram send works
• Telegram Bot API receives inbound DMs (getUpdates shows them)
• but OpenClaw never consumes those updates

Symptoms:

• no reply in Telegram DM
• Telegram DM session stays stale
• openclaw channels status --probe --json returns empty channels / no registered Telegram channel
• pending_update_count stays stuck

Already tried:

• gateway restarts
• doctor, doctor --repair --yes, doctor --deep
• re-add Telegram channel
• hard reset of Telegram channel
• switch from dmPolicy: pairing to dmPolicy: open with allowFrom: ["*"]
• full reinstall via npm i -g openclaw@latest

No change.

This looks less like config error and more like a Telegram provider / channel registry / inbound consume bug in stable.

If useful, I can also provide:

• full repro details
• exact config state
• Bot API outputs for getMe, getWebhookInfo, getUpdates

[earnest spire]

Hey there. I fixed voice to text and model defaults and it worked well on tg chat on mac, then i switched to pnone tg chat and voice transcribe is broken and bot uses another model overriding the defaults. Hows that possible and who knows how to fix it? Hows that even possible to override openclaw.json defaults?

[buoyant owl]

Hi guys, anyone having a problem with ACP binded to a channel in discord? The second message isnt been sent from the ACP but from the OpenClaw.

[high heron]

claude pro is not going to work with openclaw

but chatgpt will

so just use oauth since codex has generous limit

if u still want to use claude

then either use API or just use claude code channels

[high heron]

u can just create gmail in google cloud console

[thorny cobalt]

I have both connected alr

Claude works

[narrow egret]

What helped me was starting with cheaper models for most tasks, and only using expensive ones when needed, keeping prompts more tighter so it doesn’t waste tokens, and also setting limits or simpler workflows first before going full multi-agent

also using subscriptions like Claude Pro or ChatGPT Plus doesn’t really translate well here, OpenClaw is mostly pay-per-use so it's easier for me to use a single API layer instead of running to diff providers and limits, and I'm also able to choose models pretty fast without changing my whole setup. I personally use AIsa as my Unified API provider, so yeah it's pretty cheaper than other providers and it works really great (for me)

[thorny cobalt]

As subscruption

[high heron]

it works, but u might get banned

[thorny cobalt]

I know but im taking the risk

[high heron]

wt is this ai yapping

[high heron]

alr

[narrow egret]

AI yapping? lol 😂

[thorny cobalt]

I mean the problem is i haven’t reached any results with those 2 subscriptions. Like i hit my limit after 1 day and then i have to wait 1 week

[narrow egret]

Just trying to help tho

[high heron]

get gpt pro then

[thorny cobalt]

I wish i could have somebody help me like for 30min

Tell me what im doing wrong

And give me some important tipps?

[high heron]

do u run openclaw 24/7 though

[nimble hill]

Yeah i know Gmail api i use that. What i stated is that most people are not comfortable in directly using their daily driver email. The solution is to redirect "relevant" emails to a common Gmail or self hosted solution. So that AI can only act upon a copy

[high heron]

because they have 5h limit

so technically it will take 1+ day to reach its usage limit

[thorny cobalt]

Yes but im not prompting the whole day.

I trying for almost 2 weeks to create this

Ah no pictures allowed here

Shit

[narrow egret]

just copy and paste the error you're facing

[thorny cobalt]

Would anyone experienced would be so nice and give a lil guide like 30min in the support channel

[thorny cobalt]

Im not facing errors im just facing no results

[high heron]

wdym?

wt do u want to do?

[strong hearth]

Hello, I'm running OpenClaw on AWS and I'm trying to send Excel/PDF files through my Discord channel. I've already enabled 'Attach Files' in Discord Developer Portal and regenerated the OAuth URL. The media parameter in the message tool doesn't seem to work - messages go through but no attachment appears. Is there a specific configuration needed for file uploads to work?

[heavy quarry]

Hey! I have been discovering Open Claw. Where can I find valuable use cases of the possibilities, perhaps considering product management?

[young tusk]

@heavy quarry If you have conversations with it, let it get to know you, you can ask it the same question and it will be very helpful.

[gray idol]

there's a reddit for that too https://www.reddit.com/r/OpenClawUseCases/

[crisp wing]

r/OpenClawUseCases via Reddit

[gray idol]

I'm trying to get openclaw setup with Discord. I have a server and basically i just want to have 3 agents working there. One for looking up the web for news and info, another to write scripts based on that and my input, and another one to debate and refine the script with me.
I managed to get three bots into the server, set up 3 agents on openclaw, each on each bot, but right now the 3 bots see all the channels and respond to every single message, even when i ask them not to. What am i doing wrong?

[tall meteor]

What are your thoughts on this plugin?
Contexto
The Local-First Context Engine for AI Agents
https://github.com/ekailabs/contexto

[gray juniper]

The media parameter needs the file to be accessible at runtime, if you're on AWS, double-check that the file path your agent is resolving to actually exists on that instance, not just locally. Also worth verifying the bot has ATTACH_FILES in the specific channel, not just server-wide. The permission sometimes doesn't cascade the way you'd expect.

[strong hearth]

Thank you 🙏🙏

[radiant lion]

anyone know why in my openclaw control dashboard in channels section everytime i edit something through that save and restart openclaw it just resets back to original?

[manic tree]

hey all - after uplifting to the latest openclaw and setting up some telegram threads, my telegram at some point became totally unresponsive. Is this a known issue at all? I tried restarting a few things and the doctor, etc ... status is good but channel probe doesn't look great. I did receive a daily cron job update today through telegram, but no response when chatting.

[dim harbor]

are you using a reliable model/provider ? does it work better directly through control ui chat?

[full shale]

Hey whats up, looking to get my api key and been researching what model to get, not doing a flagship yet im gonna upgrade it when i get to college

[worthy summit]

just out of curiosity, as a person who doesnt code, how hard or, are there any technical obstacles that i might face when setting up openclaw,

[dim harbor]

if you have access to claude or chatgpt to help you along, you can get past any obstacles, not a big deal

[worthy summit]

thanks g

[viral ledge]

just installed openclaw ant it said: run error: HTTP 401 authentication_error: invalid x-api-key

[prime gazelle]

What's up everybody I am new to openclaw I have managed to configure it prettty nicely, in a way I want it, happy with where I got. However I was searching for more security meaning I wanted to limit where openclaw has CRUD priveleges and in my search I stumbled upon sandboxes. What I want is to limit openclaw to only be able to read/write on a specific folder, but I haven't managed to do so yet. So my questions are:
Is it possible?
Is sandboxing + docker the way?
If it is the way, I stopped at where is the Dockerfile.sandbox to create the docker image for the sandbox + docker am I right with this?
Or better so, did anyone find a better solution for this? Thanks in advance for any help!

[dim harbor]

depends on the use case, docker is a good option if you want to fully isolate it while letting it still have most of its capabilities

[frank sparrow]

Hi all, when it comes to providing an LLM by way of GitHub Copilot Pro, has anyone here tried it out, and if so, do you like it?

[copper nova]

best API rates around for frontier models

12 cent opus calls is S tier, same call with token based provider cost me $4

[frank sparrow]

Thanks for that. I just wasn't sure about whether or not it was really as good as one would be led to believe.

[copper nova]

it is

BUT be warned, they cracking down on ratelimiting, I think they caught on to our shenanigans

and right now the BEST value is just signing up a pro subscription with openai/claude and using that for your inference

[frank sparrow]

Have you had any trouble as far as any limits it has? I know it's not like "oh yeah you can use Opus 24/7" so I'm not expecting that. I've been using Haiku via Anthropic API, so I don't have any complaints sticking with just Haiku

[copper nova]

$200 max plan from claude ==== $5000 in inference

or so they say, I can't back that up with real numbers, just articles online

[frank sparrow]

Yeah, I do know they're rather secretive about specifics when it comes to "how much can I use this"

[copper nova]

I did, when I was using it heavy on coding tasks and browser automation, which was how I found out they caught on cus it was only during that last week I was having issues, before then it was smooth as butter

[frank sparrow]

Ah okay, so one may notice it after a while of heavy use. When it happens, is it just slower, or do they force you to use a lighter model like Haiku or GPT 5 mini?

[copper nova]

they give you an error saying you hit that rate limit, you then have to switch models, or wait the ghost number of hrs for it to reset

[frank sparrow]

Thank you very much for your help and insight ❤️

[copper nova]

what's annoying is that they have no way of telling your usage, just hard brick your ass and no idea when it resets

i submitted an issue to them

cus that's ass UXDX

[mellow sundial]

Does anyone have a fix for the /status command in Discord not presenting data anymore?

[copper nova]

works for me... sounds like you broke something lol

[frank sparrow]

can confirm it works for me as well

[mellow sundial]

Is that discord?

[copper nova]

yes...

[mellow sundial]

Mine just prints Done for some reason

I didn’t change anything except update to latest

[copper nova]

update it again, I think there's been a few patches to 3.23-2 now?

then if that no work, just throw an opus agent to fix it for you lol

[prime gazelle]

Hmm I don't have a specific use case for now this was more in general terms, to make using the bot more secure, restricting its access to system files better... but in general. Letting it create folders, files and edit them only in a specific place where the host designates.

[copper nova]

AFAIK, you can restrict it to only be able to do/read things in it's own workspace

[mellow sundial]

Tried that

No help

I’m on 32-2

[copper nova]

but keep it in mind, this is a "soft" restriction, just rules. If you actually concerned, run it in a docker container or VPS or dedicated computer

[prime gazelle]

Yeah I saw that it has its own workspace but at the same time it managed to read other spaces of my system. So I was trying to be reassured of everything, do not know if that is possible though...

[prime gazelle]

Yeah thanks!

[copper nova]

I had this rule and my agent straight up ignored it every time, can't get it to do config fixes if it's stuck in the workspace lol

[copper nova]

try it with a claude code agent, not through your discord

[mellow sundial]

Good call will try

Just Claude Code in the OpenClaw workspace?

[silent dirge]

anyone else having misses with openclaw doing nothing. I’m just alway getting a ton of terminal or code outputs, every message to heyron get bounced back and I can not find another way to open a ticket…. 😑

Literally the openclaw agent didn’t do anything at all, forgets literally every single thing. Not sure what happened from the time k got the email saying that it was setup to 4 seconds later using openclaw active but no work done even with responses back to me😞

[copper nova]

i would do one level higher so it has the configs

I actually have a claude.md file here so everytime I use my claude agent here it knows wtf is going on

[mellow sundial]

I mean OpenClaw root not workspace

[split tiger]

did the new version fix this for you? i am updating atm

[tall meteor]

What do you guys use for session memory?

[mellow sundial]

Mem0

I find it to be the best, and I’m not affiliated with them at all

[unkempt pasture]

does anyone know how to disable compaction for local LM studio models?

[covert blade]

if I installed with sudo npm install -g openclaw@latest what is proper way to upgrade?
stop gw, install and restart gw? or
stop gw, install upgrade, openclaw onboard?

[copper nova]

I just tell my claude agent to handle it and test for regressions

[copper nova]

and I think there's a openclaw upgrade command

[wary osprey]

have you confirmed this is not an error from your provider?

[silent dirge]

Absolutely. I get responses back. It’s the default LLM’s that heyron gives you. It just seems as though it literally hallucinate and tries to not actually produce any work. It’s very strange actually.

[covert blade]

it's 'update' and broke with permissions error so I just stopped gw, sudo npm install -g openclaw@latest, restarted...

[copper nova]

almost sure you're gonna have some broken configs FYI, best to let an agent handle it IMO 🙂

[covert blade]

my 10 day old experience with letting oc do about anything results to often in oc self bricking leaving newbeish me picking up the pieces

[unkempt pasture]

Agent keeps triggering compaction loop with local Gemma 3 27B via LM Studio. Context is 32768. Compaction model is set to the same local model. It just loops forever. Is there a way to fully disable compaction?

[covert blade]

MeToo but with GLM-4.7-flash

[copper nova]

yes, this is a thing lol hence why I always reccomend using an external agent to do updates and building the bot itself. The gateway restarts and bricking makes bulding the bot with the bot miserable until you get it into a stable state

[calm sleet]

Does the exec tools spawn a sub agent? Also, does anyone know where do the sub agents get their config from? They sure as hell dont read the main one 😅

[covert blade]

I have oc 2026.3.24 installed in a well provisioned pve trixie vm. a self host ollama server on the same lan with 24g of vram. I'm experiencing massive session bloat that is being read every time I querry allowing me time to get stuck in doom scrolling as I wait for a response.... ; - ) gemini web suggests

"session": {
  "dmScope": "per-channel-peer",
  "compression": {
    "enabled": true,
    "thresholdTokens": 4096,
    "strategy": "summarize"
  }
}

does that bell ring true? Where can I RTFM on that in the official docs. My goal is to have a reasonable context/memory so that the accuracy of oc responses is improved and is reasonablly snappy when first installed (with no bloat)

[copper nova]

ask your agent to tune the context compaction and memory flush for you, I use lossless claw plugin for some of that as well

[spark valley]

From the one that spawned them

[calm sleet]

Thats fishy, my exec tools and generally webhook actions, have a different API key than the main session

[spark valley]

The issue is the context I guess you have setup low context in openclaw.json it happens with custom providers

[calm sleet]

I suspect there is caching involved, at initialization the api key i have is a placeholder, i replace it in the config and the sub agent still has the placeholder 😕

The main agent is fine

[spark valley]

Yea there is a subagent folder in the main openclaw folder

U may wanna check that out

[hasty grove]

How do I disable compaction in openclaw.json?

I read the compaction docs but I don't see how: https://docs.openclaw.ai/concepts/compaction

[spark valley]

Why would you do that

[copper nova]

you... shouldnt?

[hasty grove]

I delegate control to a custom agent that manages its own context and I don't want openclaw injecting system compaction messages even though i still use openclaw for chat ingress

[naive hazel]

Hey everyone! I am new here.
Can someone help me navigate where to find guide or information on installation and selecting suitable Agent based on hardware, please.
Struggling with running a reliable assistant locally.
Thanks

[manic marten]

Does openclaw not update their documentation? Why do web_fetch always fetch the wrong thing

[spark valley]

There is dirt cheap guide for 5 bucks, you can get it for free if u can't pay

[spark valley]

I will look into it

I never had to but this looks better

Approach

[blissful trench]

use tavily api its free

[naive hazel]

I was hoping there might be something by the Community

[spark valley]

Dm I can send my personal work

It just gonna get you starting

With telegram and one agent

[hasty grove]

{
  compaction: {
    enabled: true,
    reserveTokens: 16384,
    keepRecentTokens: 20000,
  },
}

Maybe something like compaction.enabled = false, and/or compaction.reserveTokens: 999999999 and/or keepRecentTokens: 99999999

[calm sleet]

Damn, this sucks, i cant find why the agent wants to use the original api key

[spark valley]

Check profiles-auth for that agent

Then openclaw.json

[calm sleet]

there is no agent spawn

tahts teh issue, its probably stored in RAM

I use PLACEHOLDER_KEY on boot on the openclaw json, after a while, i replace it a everywhere, i run grep, its nowehere, agent tries to tool call, i see AUTHENTICATION ISSUE, its insane, chasing a ghost

[fallen plinth]

i created a agent called lynx. can i configure discord channel only for this agent. or only all?

[covert blade]

This plugin? https://github.com/Martian-Engineering/lossless-claw
I wonder if there is a consultiong doctor with more years of experience than openclaw doctor so to speak... Maybe a openclaw.json analyzer that can have schema version applied looking for invalid, missing or dubious sections?

[cunning meadow]

Do you guys know why sometimes the discord bot or telegram bot will sometimes begin typing (or giving me emojis in discord) and then just stop? Any way to check why it is doing this? Other channels it responds fine. Just sometimes direct channel and sometimes group channel or topics.

I'm using opencode go and I haven't hit any limits but it's just frustrating knowing that sometimes it's not going to respond and I need to prompt it again and it sometimes gives me an answer

[twin bobcat]

My sidecar broke with "Blocked hostname or private/internal/special-use IP address." on 127.0.0.1! Don't want to expose on cloudflare to public! This needs to get fixed. Provide a whitelist of local ip:ports.

[mellow sundial]

Status slash command is still not working with latest update. Anyone else have this issue?

[mellow sundial]

Message streaming you’re looking for

[chilly kayak]

Hey @copper nova you mentoned the local models dont hit quite like the cloud ones, was curious to know which local models you've tried out

[copper nova]

there is a schema validator I believe, I make my agent always go through it before applying any config changes. BUt this doesn't protect against updates bricking configs

[copper nova]

0, just from watching other's peoples experiences. You can kinda already know from the capabilities like the smaller models don't have the tools available to do stuff like web search etc.

[ancient jungle]

it's not that they can't do web search, they just like to hallucinate wrong answers. and they'll tell you with 100% confidence when they're wrong

[mellow sundial]

I couldn’t get Claude Code to fix it 🙁

[mellow sundial]

And always have it backup first

[fallen plinth]

how do i configure a custom api in openclaw?

[copper nova]

yes, this is part of the script, make back up, check against validator, apply

[cunning meadow]

Do you have the commands or process to check this?

Do you need to set the OPENCLAW_RAW_STREAM to 1 and the tail the logs?

[mellow sundial]

Can you send me your script? Interested in the validator

[mellow sundial]

Ask your OpenClaw to check its config

[mellow sundial]

Has nothing to do with logs

It essentially steams the messages to you as it thinks and processes

[chilly kayak]

riiiight the small local ones are shoite. but what about at 128gb of ram like a 70b model..? Any idea
Ill do some youtube research tho

[mellow sundial]

I’d recommend turning on status reactions so you can see what it’s doing @cunning meadow

[ancient jungle]

i've noticed that (on telegram) the reasoning (does get streamed), then it gets deleted when the final output is done. how do i get it to stay?

[copper nova]

yea do your research, I'm just some idiot on the interwebs, please don't listen to me for anything tangible other than memes 🙂

[mellow sundial]

I’m not sure how to get it to stay, but you can disable it with the slash command

[stoic anvil]

This is a known bug on recent versions. The typing indicator getting stuck is a regression — the keepalive timer isnt clearing properly after replies are sent (https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/issues/26419, https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/issues/26761).
For the bot stopping mid-response, check your gateway logs (openclaw gateway status) — usually its the model timing out silently or a tool call failing in the background that you cant see in chat.
Quick fixes: openclaw gateway restart clears stuck timers, and try setting channels.telegram.streaming to off as a workaround

[ancient jungle]

well, i'm not trying to disable it. i'm trying to get it to actually stay so i know what this idiot is thinking to get me stupid answers

[cunning meadow]

Thanks for all the replies. I will try to set the reaction status and also restarting the gateway and also turning streaming off. That goes against the guide tho right? It's just the workaround for now yes? Applies to discord and telegram?

[covert blade]

"Ask your OpenClaw to check its config" said @mellow sundial Is this a trap? I keep thinking I'm talking to openclaw who would be aware of their exact config but aren't I actually talking to the model I have selected?

[stoic anvil]

a known pain point. OpenClaw caches API keys in memory at startup so changing them in the config while its running wont take effect.
After updating the key, do a full openclaw gateway restart. Also check auth-profiles.json — thats where providers actually store keys at runtime, your config might be clean but the cached auth profile still has the old one. Run openclaw models status to see what each provider is actually using.
Nuclear option: stop gateway, delete .openclaw/state to clear all cached auth, update key, restart fresh.
Theres also a known bug where the gateway masks keys with asterisks on reload (https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/issues/26220) — check your openclaw.json for any **** values

[cunning meadow]

I asked it to check it's config and it said it's going to and then it just stops anyway 🙈

[mellow sundial]

The model you're talking to and your config are two completely different things.

[copper nova]

yea this is tricky, it does that in control UI as well, I had to create a custom UI to get my reasoning to be persistant

[mellow sundial]

What model are you using?

[ancient jungle]

do elaborate on this custom UI

[stoic anvil]

yeah just a workaround for now, bug is being tracked on github. and yeah applies to both discord and telegram, youd set it separately in each channel config

[copper nova]

so I'm saving the streaming reasoning thinking blocks into a convex DB and outputing it into my chat

[cunning meadow]

Open code go GLM5

[ancient jungle]

what is that, what channel is that? discord?

[copper nova]

no, custom chat UI web app

[mellow sundial]

Looks pretty

[calm sleet]

I need to fork Openclaw then, thats very sad

Do you know where this takes place? I will use codex, just asking 😅

[copper nova]

thanks, took alot of tokens to build lol

[mellow sundial]

Where the ApI keys are?

[ancient jungle]

you built a whole separate chat app just to see reasoning?

[mellow sundial]

They shouldn’t be in your config I can tell you that

[copper nova]

and other features yes

[mellow sundial]

They should be in a secret manager or at least a env file

[calm sleet]

They are in the config, they are temprorary and at a rotation, thats why i start the container with a placeholder one 😁

The issue is that the claw, really likes the og temp one

[ancient jungle]

such as?

[copper nova]

they always are tho

[calm sleet]

You can hide them, but its of no matter to me, they are short lived idc

[stoic anvil]

you probably dont need to fork it honestly. Try storing your key in an environment variable instead of directly in openclaw.json — that way the gateway cant overwrite it on reload. Or just edit auth-profiles.json directly where the runtime actually reads from. The github issue has more detail on the exact cause: https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/issues/26220”​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

[copper nova]

I built this back before 3.12 or something so alot of the features are now in control UI. But I did the reasoning thing, agent steering (have a PR to introduce this to control UI), model selection, attach file/media with camera inputs if mobile, usage tracking, it goes on.

[calm sleet]

I will try the auth edit, if I edit the .env i will have to restart, thats too much downtime, cant afford that

[mellow sundial]

Not if you don’t put them there haha

I use a secret manager for my env files it’s super sensitive

[calm sleet]

Can you encrypt before init? With a masterkey or such?

Also, if you hide them, how is lil claw reeading them 🤔

[ancient jungle]

that sounds like great stuff, maybe you could release it and not be bound to telegram. though telegram does have advantages like being able to run bots

[covert blade]

I installed sudo npm install -g openclaw@latest
should I use -g when I install openclaw plugins install @martian-engineering/lossless-claw

[quaint shell]

I don't see the point of using OpenClaw with Claude. Because now there's Claude Code, Claude Cowork, and all that.

[copper nova]

I can't, it requiires too much setup like signing up a convex account, system level permissions, alot of stuff that's like internal system requirements that won't work for everyone. It was really just a fun project to help my vibe coding and memory system.

I am trying to introduce some of the helpful features to the masses tho like agent steering

[dusk grotto]

Quick question: is openai-codex/gpt-5.4 actually supposed to work for vision/image analysis in OpenClaw right now?

On my install, openclaw models list shows it as image + text capable, and OpenClaw lets me set it with openclaw models set-image openai-codex/gpt-5.4. openclaw models status also shows it as the active image model.

But when I actually use the built-in image tool, it fails with:
No media-understanding provider registered for openai-codex

So I’m trying to figure out whether:

1. this is intended and Codex vision just isn’t wired to the image tool yet, or
2. it’s a bug/regression in provider/media registration.

If anyone knows whether this is expected behavior or there’s a known workaround, I’d appreciate it.

[stoic anvil]

Yeah, this is openclaw’s SSRF protection blocking local/private IPs on web_fetch. Theres an open feature request for exactly what you want: https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/issues/39604
You could try putting the sidecar on tailscale and hitting it via the tailscale IP instead of 127.0.0.1 — not sure if the SSRF guard blocks that range too but worth a shot. If that doesnt work, the browser tool already allows private network access by default so you could use that instead of web_fetch to hit your local service as a workaround.

[stoic anvil]

Its expected — openai-codex isnt registered as a media-understanding provider. The model list showing image capable just means it can handle images inline in chat, but the image analysis tool has its own separate provider registry. Workaround: set a different model for image analysis in tools.media.models — openai/gpt-5.2, anthropic/claude-opus-4-6 or google/gemini-3-flash all work

[calm sleet]

found it, damn that has to be a bug

if i append to .env after container creation, it still picks it up, damn

without restarting as well 😅

that seems to have fixed it, probably changing the api key resolution prio inside openclaw would also fix this as well

[cunning meadow]

How did you do this?

[copper nova]

alot of tokens and vibes lol I don't recommend you do it unless you looking for some pain

[cunning meadow]

What's a quick way to view the streaming reasoning? Just so I can try to debug a little of what's going on

[copper nova]

I think you just click these buttons on control UI

[mellow sundial]

There's only so much you can hide them

[cunning meadow]

Aah ok. Got it. So click that brain button and then select the telegram session?

[calm sleet]

Use temps that rotate every X amount of time and revoke them after

[copper nova]

I don't know about telegram, I think those things only work for the control UI there

[mellow sundial]

That would be awesome if it wasn't such a pain to build that into your API keys

[calm sleet]

for solo and personal a minimal api with 2-3 endpoints is all you need, not more than a weekends work, but everyone has their own use case, so....

[stoic anvil]

Start here for installation: https://docs.openclaw.ai — run openclaw onboard in your terminal and it walks you through everything step by step.
For model selection based on hardware — if you have a decent GPU (16gb+ vram) you can run local models through Ollama. Otherwise just use cloud APIs like Claude or GPT with your own API key, way more reliable and your hardware doesnt matter. What machine are you running?

[quaint shell]

OpenClaw can really do anything we want.

[stoic anvil]

Problem is may be 32k context is too tight — openclaw reserves 20k tokens by default so you only have ~12k usable before compaction triggers constantly. Best fix: set agents.defaults.compaction.model to a cloud model so compaction isnt done by the same local gemma. If its stuck in a loop right now, /new resets the session

[calm sleet]

minimax is busted for openclaw , use the token plan as well, no reason to use anything else, unless you have more money than you can count

[blissful trench]

can u explain why

[inner monolith]

hello i have problem with setting channel in discord
everytime i send somthing at reply: This channel is not allowed.

[calm sleet]

because performance wise is in the top 10, close to top 5, and it has a token plan, where you have 4500 requests flat, no token bs etc

with flash, i wasn burning 1$ per 5 messages

[twin bobcat]

Thanks! Looks like the fix is almost in. Hopefully they can resolve conflicts soon and reopen the Strait of Sockets.

[inner monolith]

? 😐

[stoic anvil]

you need to add your server and channel to the allowlist in your config. Add your server ID under channels.discord.guilds and if you list specific channels in there, make sure the channel you’re messaging in is included — unlisted channels get denied. Enable developer mode in discord (settings > advanced) to copy the IDs.

[inner monolith]

form the terminal or openclaw control?

[stoic anvil]

Both work, Control UI — go to config and edit the channels.discord section there. Or edit ~/.openclaw/openclaw.json directly from terminal. Restart gateway after

[sturdy oxide]

is that normal that i have error 401 with local ollama model tinyllama ?

[inner monolith]

you mean from, Control UI -> channel and edit them?

channels.discord.guilds.1317840203678875653.roles
undefined
→
["the Beast"]
channels.discord.guilds.1317840203678875653.channels
undefined
→
{"general_1":{"allow":true,"enabled":...
channels.discord.activity
undefined
→
"#1317840203678875653"
channels.discord.allowBots
undefined
→
true
channels.discord.configWrites
undefined
→
true
channels.discord.dmPolicy
undefined
→
"open"
like this?

[red nebula]

Hey guys. I'm running OpenClaw on a Ubuntu VPS with WhatsApp linked. Inbound messages work perfectly — my agent receives and replies to my DMs with no issues.

The problem is outbound sending via the CLI. When I run:

openclaw message send --target "[e-mail]" --channel whatsapp --message "test"

I get: Error: No active WhatsApp Web listener (account: default)

But openclaw channels status --probe shows: WhatsApp default: enabled, configured, linked, running, connected

And openclaw health also confirms it's linked and running.

The agent can send replies to my own DM (that works fine), but it cannot send outbound messages to WhatsApp groups or initiate messages via the CLI send command.

I restarted the gateway via systemctl --user restart openclaw-gateway and re-ran openclaw channels login --channel whatsapp — both completed successfully but the issue persists.

Any idea what's causing the disconnect between the listener being "connected" and the CLI send path not finding it?

[covert blade]

Looks like lossless is installed and working. oc seems to be responsive again. I see I now have an lcm.db This is a great help. Now I can continue learning and implementing new whathaveyous and such. Thanks.

jeffa@karen:~$ oc config get plugins.entries.lossless-claw --json
{
  "enabled": true,
  "config": {
    "freshTailCount": 32,
    "contextThreshold": 0.75,
    "incrementalMaxDepth": -1,
    "ignoreSessionPatterns": [
      "agent:*:cron:**"
    ],
    "summaryProvider": "ollama",
    "summaryModel": "qwen3.5:latest"
  }
}
jeffa@karen:~$ ll .openclaw/l
lcm.db      lcm.db-shm  lcm.db-wal  logs/       
jeffa@karen:~$ ll .openclaw/l
lcm.db      lcm.db-shm  lcm.db-wal  logs/       
jeffa@karen:~$ ll .openclaw/lcm.db
-rw-r--r-- 1 jeffa jeffa 163840 Mar 25 12:08 .openclaw/lcm.db
jeffa@karen:~$ 

[copper nova]

you welcome

[hard turret]

Am I the only one having issues with Discord bot / openclaw?
Or is it because of issues from Discord atm?

[inner monolith]

same

what's your issue?

[cunning meadow]

Does that mean I won't see the 'bot is typing... "

[dusk grotto]

Got it, so if I’m understanding correctly, only the plain OpenAI-provider models are actually usable for image/vision in OpenClaw right now, and the Codex OAuth lane is basically chat/tools only?

So in practice, if someone is using only openai-codex OAuth, they should expect no vision/image capability unless they also add:

• another vision-capable provider, or
• a normal OpenAI API key / openai/* setup

Is that the correct way to think about it?

[inland knot]

Maybe I'm late to the party, but you guys experiencing agent not responding problems as well?

[inner monolith]

yeah

[compact olive]

Anyone have recommendations for giving a windows desktop access to OpenClaw? Want to have it work on something 3d modeling related.

[storm sage]

I am trying to setup openclaw with ollama running a local model. Qwen2.5-coder|14b. However i get this error. re-compaction memory flush. Store durable memories only in memory/2026-03-25.md (create memory/ if needed)

my specs:
rtx 5070
32gb ddr4 ram
r7 3700x

[copper nova]

that doesn't sound right....

but I'm an anthropic andy so I don't actually know

[dusk grotto]

Honestly I agree
From a user perspective it’s pretty confusing that:

• openai-codex/gpt-5.4 shows up as image-capable in models list
• OpenClaw lets you set it as the image model
• models status reflects it correctly
• but the actual image tool still fails because it uses a separate registry that doesn’t include openai-codex

So the current behavior kind of implies “yes, this should work” right up until runtime.

[inner monolith]

ask ai 🙂

[inland knot]

Nvm my agent came back

[storm sage]

it suggested that i had to create that memory file, but that did not solve the issue

[inner monolith]

great

[copper nova]

yea.... I'll try out 5.4 with copilot in a minute, see how that goes.

[inner monolith]

did you install the locla model in ollama or with the terminal because i have had a problem with the ollama UI 😐

[dusk grotto]

Legend

[inner monolith]

is it free? 🙂

[storm sage]

im running linux so terminal

[royal matrix]

Im having trouble linking my Claude pro subscription to open claw I’ve been using it fine but then ran into trouble after switching between models in telegram. Created a new authentication code to link it but still no luck.

The OAuth token from claude setup-token only works with the Claude CLI itself — not for direct API calls. That's why both tests failed.

Your options now:

1. Buy credits — https://console.anthropic.com/credits (adds billing to your Pro account)
2. OpenRouter — Sign up at openrouter.ai, add card, get a key
3. Stay on MiniMax — Works fine, we're good here

The Claude Pro subscription doesn't include API access — it's separate billing. Want me to set up OpenRouter instead? It's usually cheaper and simpler.

[copper nova]

works for me

[inner monolith]

oh sorry i use Windows so i think there is a difrrent between the to OS

[copper nova]

no, it cost me 4cents, pay up

[inner monolith]

OH i'm too broke i want somthing free 🙂

[inland knot]

My man got Opus

Rich b

[storm sage]

thx anyways

trying to reinstall ollama and see if that help

[copper nova]

https://giphy.com/gifs/morning-tea-wednesday-h0MTqLyvgG0Ss

[inland knot]

I got M2.7, Claude wannabe

[storm sage]

btw @inner monolith what is your specs and how does it run(openclaw)

[inner monolith]

try going with this video it may help:
https://youtu.be/_dzz5sJe-Ug?si=87Gisudx3JRh8SQu

[inner monolith]

ram: 32
Intel Core i9-14900KS
NVIDIA RTX 5090
4TB NVMe Gen5 SSD

[inner monolith]

it runs very soomth

[copper nova]

doesn't sound like you broke

and I hope that's not your personal PC

[dusk grotto]

Can you ask if it used a fallback model?

[inner monolith]

aaaaaa i got broke because i got these stuff 1month ago and i'm still broke

[inner monolith]

it's my personal pc

[copper nova]

that sounds risky, hope you're not logged into anything worth stealing now

[copper nova]

for 4cents you can

[storm sage]

you also have a beefy pc. You run local model right?

[dusk grotto]

@copper nova send Cash app 😂

[inner monolith]

i have other pc
Current System Specifications (Cleaned)
Processor (CPU): Intel Core i5-7400 @ 3.00GHz (4 Cores / 4 Threads).

Memory (RAM): 8.00 GB.

Storage (Dual Drive Setup):

SSD: KINGSTON SA400 (Approx. 960GB/1TB)

HDD: WDC WD10EZEX (1TB) — Used for mass storage.

Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 630 (Integrated).

System Type: 64-bit OS, x64-based processor.

it also runs very smooth

[inner monolith]

yes

[copper nova]

it has built in eyeballs

as your research showed

[inner monolith]

i run it localliy i don't think that's a problem is it?

[copper nova]

it is if anyone get's access to your bot, I go tell it to find me your google password mananger

it's not the LLM api's that's the security issue with that my dude lol

why do people think local LLM is security?

[storm sage]

what models do you run and what have you built so far with it?

[copper nova]

mind boggling what these influencers are telling y'all

did you have to join their Skool community to learn the rest of it?

[inner monolith]

how come?
if i put it on a private server? no one will have access to my bot 😐

[inner monolith]

i think because you won't share it?

[copper nova]

you just said it's on your PC... lol

[inner monolith]

they have to access my pc first think???!!!!

[copper nova]

nvm, enjoy your bot

🙂

[inner monolith]

with what which PCs?

[inner monolith]

noooooooo i want to understand :|:|

[copper nova]

there's a reason why everyone buy's mac minis or runs their bot on a VPS

https://giphy.com/gifs/culture--think-hmm-d3mlE7uhX8KFgEmY

[inner monolith]

because they can shit money?! i think that's the reason

[copper nova]

mac minis and vps are cheaper than your rig....

[inner monolith]

OH i think i got the idea 😐

[inland knot]

my man just made me poor in 5 languages

[inner monolith]

OMG sorry mate

[inner monolith]

but it's not personal see

[copper nova]

my bot has it's own accounts for everything. all I know is, I wouldn't trust this thing with access to anything important.

[copper nova]

you said it here....

[inner monolith]

very interseting i should do that starting when i come rich again

[storm sage]

the one with rtx 5090

or actually both of them aha

[celest panther]

Hey guys, Im new here, but maybe someone can help me. My bot can respond reactively in any channel when @mentioned. But any proactive POST via the Discord REST API (using the bot token through exec, webhooks, or scripts) creates messages that exist in the DB (confirmed via API GET) but are invisible in the client. Tried: webhooks, sessions_send, direct REST API via node, queue + cron. Only works when I manually run the script from an interactive SSH session. Running OpenClaw on Mac Mini. Anyone else solved cross-channel proactive posting?

[inner monolith]

hmmm no the personal one with vps but the other one is locally
but first i tried it locally on the personal one then i change it to vps but the other one just run locally

[inner monolith]

with the rtx 5090
it runs some trading bot that i did it with caulde and also 3 apps

with the other one i'm still stuck at discord bot whenever i try to fic the channel problem i get stuck again

[storm sage]

i just cant get it to work now it doesnt do anything

[inner monolith]

search for the problem on stackoverflow

https://stackoverflow.com/questions

[storm sage]

i cant really find any info

[inner monolith]

try to talk to GPT or cluade and see other solutions

[storm sage]

i did

[inner monolith]

i can't really help ya i don't have the knowledege to do 🙁 sorry

[storm sage]

np

[next walrus]

Update error: global update (omit optional)

Okay, I didn't need updates anyway

[sacred crest]

Sorry if this is a noob question, but I am setting up my openclaw and I am wondering about the safety of the default searches.
I've heard a lot of warnings about prompt injection, And I am wondering if you guys just run the default searches on your main agent or if you have a safety layer.

I was wondering if I should create a sub-agent that is sandboxed and have it execute the search, Returning the desired information to the main agent and resetting its main workspace files after every search.

Is this worth it or is it overkill?
does this impair the regular search or web access, making it worse?

[nimble hill]

Those using github copilot - they have changed policy. You can opt out. This is the exact words they have stated:
We’re updating how GitHub uses data to improve AI-powered coding tools. From April 24 onward, your interactions with GitHub Copilot—including inputs, outputs, code snippets, and associated context—may be used to train and enhance AI models unless you opt out.

[rustic pier]

Anyone using Factory AI alongside their claw?

Might be overkill unless you have complex scripts/workflows, right?

[copper nova]

sounds like something you can just build into your setup?

I'm not even quiet sure what it is, the description is kinda vague

[rustic pier]

Seems like a Codex / Claude Code competitor but model-agnostic and geared towards enterprise coding teams

[copper nova]

so why not opencode? 😛

[jaunty stag]

Train away... considering the value I get from it, it's the least I could do.

[red nebula]

any ideas on this pls?

[split axle]

I have Clawdbot with ChatGPT but performance is very bad it can’t do any basic jobs why is that ? I have Mac mini

[dusk geode]

Is krill dead again? Haven’t gotten a response in days.

[nimble hill]

They are running out to tokens i guess 😃

[nimble hill]

Good, but just be aware of the consequences - there is so much data (including personal and sensitive) thay gets entered. Its not lile they tell you exacly what is being sent and trained

[hushed heart]

How to avoid the fake execution.
The agent said I will give you feedback after execution , you just wait for the response.
Actually the agent did nothing.

[nimble hill]

I don't use channels, on gateway dashboard -> chat, it always gives what agent is trying to do, especially tool calls. Try that and see what is happening?

[placid mason]

I just tested the command on mine and it worked. I dont really know how to fix it. I can give the config with the 2 sections related to groups openclaw added for me if you want to conpare. Minus the group I.Ds
Sec.1
"channels": {
"whatsapp": {
"enabled": true,
"dmPolicy": "allowlist",
"allowFrom": [ phone number

  "groupAllowFrom": [],
  "groupPolicy": "open",
  "groups": {  group IDs

Sec.2
"debounceMs": 0,
"accounts": {
"default": {
"enabled": true,
"dmPolicy": "allowlist",
"allowFrom": [ phone number

  "groupAllowFrom": [],
  "groupPolicy": "open",
  "groups": { group IDs

[lusty knot]

are you guys familiar with the issue of agent not executing tasks you're asking it to?

its just roleplaying progress

[celest panther]

Hey everyone — I'm running two OpenClaw instances on the same Mac Mini using the --profile flag, each with their own bot and gateway port. Both work great individually (reactive responses, @mentions, etc).

I'm trying to get the two instances to communicate with each other and hitting three blockers:

1. Exec filesystem writes don't persist: echo/cat from exec looks correct inside the sandbox, but checking the same file path from SSH shows the writes never hit the real disk. apply_patch also doesn't persist.

2. Bot-to-bot @mentions filtered: Bot A tags Bot B in a channel Bot B has access to — Bot B never responds. Human @mentions in the same channel work fine.

3. Proactive cross-channel posting (ghost messages): REST API calls from exec return 200, messages exist via GET, but they're invisible in the Discord client. Same token + script works perfectly from SSH.

Is there a way to give exec real filesystem access, or a recommended pattern for multi-instance communication? Running 2026.3.23-2 on Mac Mini M4.

[real raptor]

hi, here's dumb newbie question, i am very new to this and i was using chatgpt 5.4 oauth, i am now reached api limit since 12:48pm today, i checked my dashboard, it says i used 15M today, did i used too much? any idea how long do i have wait until i can start use it again?

[mellow sundial]

Is @sharp parcel down?

[hushed heart]

Similar issues
I tried other model(Kimi). (Previously gpt-5.3-codex). It executed the task I asked it to successfully

[mellow sundial]

Is there a reason you're using two instances and not two agents?

[tall meteor]

I built a web terminal in Mission Control.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1389329320446660639/1486536001567330567/mission_control_web_terminal.png?ex=69c5dc09&is=69c48a89&hm=4a79b7c78cdeb39b6b18baac245109bd9f91927ea3a0401d7865458da20c559f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=897&height=618

Is the linked image visible, or blocked?

[mellow sundial]

For this channel yes

This isn't the place for that

[tall meteor]

Where is the correct place?

[copper nova]

Krill been gone, fixing too many configs.

[mellow sundial]

Damnit I need help with something lol

[copper nova]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-gif-22289049

That's krill right now

[nimble hill]

So now we know krill (agent) exhaustion is a thing and needs timeout - humane isn't it?😃

[tacit parcel]

after the major update, did anyone get their nano banana working again?
My agent says the new config is correct
Agent:
The issue is that OpenClaw 2026.3.24 has a bug where it's not actually registering the image generation providers even when the config is correct
Me: you're lying! lol

[copper nova]

They removed the internal skill but you can just create your own

I created one for nanobanana2 likes a few days ago

[tacit parcel]

I had seen to instead to add it to the config but that's not working so i may have to create one thanks

[tall meteor]

Where exactly do users share UI examples with each other?

[mellow sundial]

#showcase-old

But read the warning

[tall meteor]

Yeah, I've read it before. How would I show work and not be blamed for "shilling skill"?

I don't want a penny from anyone.

[tacit parcel]

probably the self promotion channel

[manic canopy]

Anybody using **OpenClaw **in NVidia's NemoClaw/OpenShell sandbox?

Can someone lend a hand?

I have my NemoClaw/OpenShell sandbox loaded and running. But I can't seem to get it to recognize the directory outside the sandbox that has my TypeScript plugin files. This is the directory that contains the plugin I am developing, so I want OpenClaw to be able to load the plugin from there.

Below is the filesystem_policy block from my sandbox policy, but when I go into the sandbox, I don't see the directory at all.

version: 1
filesystem_policy:
  include_workdir: true
  read_only:
    - /usr
    - /lib
    - /proc
    - /dev/urandom
    - /app
    - /etc
    - /var/log
    - /usr/lib/wsl/lib            
    - /home/clawman/my-plugin
  read_write:
    - /sandbox
    - /tmp
    - /dev/

[tall meteor]

But I really don't want to promote myself. I just want to share and see what others are doing with their Mission Control dashboards.

[slim kiln]

hey guys, im in doubt about what OS to use for hosting openclaw with an anthropic model?. a bit of context, i have an hp elitedesk 800 g2 sff with extra ram and im gonna that for the hosting, in general im gonna use claw for little things, read my newsletters and create like a newspaper for it, set reminders via wpp and by voice messages, use the Productivity in the clawhub and so on.

[celest panther]

Nope, that was the mistake. Just learned about sub-agents and switched to that approach — single instance with steer for delegation. Working much better. Still curious about the exec sandbox issue though since file writes from exec don't persist to disk regardless of architecture.

[mellow sundial]

Yeah that’s the play for sure

[oak hinge]

Does anyone know how to change the emoji/icon next to a custom tool call in discords verbose mode?
Like how gateway has “🔌 Gateway: “

I made a plug-in with my ai and discord defaults to the 🧩. Anyone know how to change it?

[radiant lion]

im trying to get my discord bot to be able to read links off the web but keeps saying I currently don't have access to a browser tool or real-time internet capabilities

im using duck duckgo option and have installed chromimmu aswell

[umbral mist]

Hi guys! have spent the pass two weeks building an operator for my marekting content. i have everything custom but dont know how to add the files or skills properly to openclaw using the dashboard have more files than headers. Please help me understand this. I am so excited to share my works with the world

[ancient jungle]

Want me to do another one, or are you finally going to bed? It's almost midnight.yo what's up with this bot keep telling me to go to sleep

[rare wave]

I currently have my bot set up via OpenAI Auth0. I want to get away from OpenAI Auth0 model and move to another LLM. However, i want to be able to use Auth0 NOT with an API key. Is there a way to set OpenClaw with Claude / Anthropic via Auth0? or would I have to use an API for Claude?
Furthermore - besides OpenAI, can i use Auth0 with another LLM subscription?

[ancient jungle]

technically yes? but not allowed with claude

minimax has what you're looking for, but if you're already willing to pay for openAI, don't know why you would use minimax

[fierce arch]

i thought it was allowed with claude, I keep hearing so many different statements about that.

[jaunty stag]

All the time. Just tell it "Hey I've just downed another Redbull, we're just getting started!" and it will shut up.

[covert blade]

When I openclaw logs --follow --local-time I want to see warn and debug, this error, although marked as debug, sure looks like an info??? at any rate it severely clutters the tail of oc logs.

20:59:44-07:00 debug matrix:MatrixClient {"module":"matrix:MatrixClient"} [MatrixClient] FetchHttpApi: <-- GET https://matrix.splatterbumpkin.net/_matrix/client/v3/sync?filter=xxx&timeout=xxx&org.matrix.msc4222.use_state_after=xxx&since=xxx [30134ms 200]
20:59:44-07:00 debug matrix:MatrixClient {"module":"matrix:MatrixClient"} [MatrixClient] FetchHttpApi: --> GET https://matrix.splatterbumpkin.net/_matrix/client/v3/sync?filter=xxx&timeout=xxx&org.matrix.msc4222.use_state_after=xxx&since=xxx
20:59:44-07:00 debug matrix:MatrixClient {"module":"matrix:MatrixClient"} [MatrixClient] FetchHttpApi: <-- GET https://matrix.splatterbumpkin.net/_matrix/client/v3/sync?filter=xxx&timeout=xxx&org.matrix.msc4222.use_state_after=xxx&since=xxx [137ms 200]
20:59:44-07:00 debug matrix:MatrixClient {"module":"matrix:MatrixClient"} [MatrixClient] FetchHttpApi: --> GET https://matrix.splatterbumpkin.net/_matrix/client/v3/sync?filter=xxx&timeout=xxx&org.matrix.msc4222.use_state_after=xxx&since=xxx
21:00:15-07:00 debug matrix:MatrixClient {"module":"matrix:MatrixClient"} [MatrixClient] FetchHttpApi: <-- GET https://matrix.splatterbumpkin.net/_matrix/client/v3/sync?filter=xxx&timeout=xxx&org.matrix.msc4222.use_state_after=xxx&since=xxx [30129ms 200]

[cold inlet]

not an error — that's just openclaw telling you the context window is getting full and to save anything important before it flushes. happens to everyone with local models, the context budget is way smaller than what openclaw expects by default
couple things to try:
make sure the memory folder exists first, openclaw wont create it on its own
mkdir -p ~/.openclaw/workspace/memory
then raise the token floor so it doesn't flush so aggressively
openclaw config set agents.defaults.reserveTokensFloor 40000
also worth checking if ollama is actually using your 5070 or just falling back to cpu — ollama ps will tell you. 14b at Q4 should fit in your vram but if its spilling to ram thats probably making it worse
restart after and you should be good: openclaw gateway restart

[cold inlet]

haha the doom scrolling wait is real, been there
the gemini suggestion isn't wrong exactly but that config schema doesn't match what oc actually uses — you'll likely just get a silent ignore or a parse error depending on your version. i wouldn't trust ai-generated openclaw config without cross referencing it
for the actual docs the best place is the openclaw github discussions and the official config reference at docs.openclaw.dev — the memory/session stuff is under agent configuration > context management if i recall right
what's actually causing your bloat is probably a combo of things — daily logs accumulating in the memory folder, MEMORY.md filling up with stale entries over time, and the bootstrap loading more than it needs to on every session. the compression flag helps at the edges but it wont fix the underlying bloat
stuff that actually moves the needle:

archive daily logs older than 30 days
prune MEMORY.md weekly, anything not referenced recently is dead weight
set reserveTokensFloor to 40000 so compaction isn't so aggressive

with a dedicated ollama server and 24g vram you shouldn't be waiting that long — sounds more like a context size problem than a hardware problem tbh

[cold inlet]

depends what you mean by session memory honestly
if you mean recall — mem0, supermemory, engram are the usual suspects. all work fine, pick whichever fits your stack
if you mean the agent actually using that memory consistently across sessions without you re-explaining everything every morning — thats a different problem and a harder one lol
what are you trying to solve specifically

yeah 1M context is kind of a trap — more isn't better when the model has to attend to all of it on every query
the sweet spot most people find is a tight bootstrap that loads fast and stays consistent... then let memory search handle the rest on demand rather than dumping everything into context upfront
basically: small context, smart retrieval > giant context, hope for the best
what does your current setup look like

[tall meteor]

Thanks. Well, I have set up a team of agents (manger, coder, auditor, devops) and I have a fully-functioning mission control kanban board with tasks. Cards with attached tasks moved into a To Do column wakes the manager agent which queues up the cards and tasks in a Node.JS/Fastify/Redis queue and then pops off each one in order, handing to the coder agent and then ultimately to auditor for QA.
None of them are polling, so everything is event driven.

I wanted to investigate what it would take to create an agent which is able to grow in understanding of repetitive tasks. I'm really not even sure of what capabilities are available. I'm on day 12 building the system and setting up OC.

[cold inlet]

lmaooo the gaslighting is so real, "I've noted that for future reference" and then absolutely nothing happens
what you're running into is that without a real task tracking system he's just saying words — there's no accountability loop, no way to verify he actually did the thing
couple things that help:
Try this...
ask him to confirm with a specific output, like "create a task in [wherever] and show me the id" not just "got it"
check your memory/YYYY-MM-DD.md file after sessions — if he's not writing to it, the session might as well not have happened
openclaw memory status will show you if anything is actually being written or if its all just vibes

the deeper issue is he has no way to hold himself accountable between sessions — no morning checklist, no nightly audit of what he said he'd do vs what he actually did
what kind of tasks are you giving him

this is the right question and almost nobody is asking it at this level...and also my favorite topic inside OC
what you're describing is basically the difference between state existing and state being consulted — and you're right that normal in-session messages don't solve it because they just become more stream content the model can gloss over
the closest thing that actually works in practice is forcing consultation at the boot/session boundary rather than trying to intercept mid-session. structured boot sequence that reads priority state before the agent accepts any input — not as a suggestion, as a hard precondition. if the state file hasn't been read and acknowledged, nothing else runs
the other piece is nightly audit — an isolated QC session that has no access to the main context, just reads what was supposed to happen vs what actually got committed. catches the "i'll do it later" drift before it compounds
neither of these is runtime interception exactly but in practice they close most of the gap — the failure mode you're describing usually happens because there's no enforced moment of consultation, not because the mechanism doesn't exist
you're definitely in an impressive systems mindset when you're thinking thru solid state/vis layers. Question. curious what your handoff structure looks like — are agents explicitly reading state at spawn or inheriting it from the parent session

[sterile steppe]

brother it called a db, this is all you need for agent too learn lol no need to over engineer just create sqlite db and perl tool

[ancient jungle]

It's 1:18 AM. You're tired, I'm tired, and we're both probably overthinking. Anything on your mind that isn't a business plan? i have the laziest agent i've ever seen. jesus what is this

[copper nova]

i like postgres myself

[sterile steppe]

postgres is like process you need to call, sqlite is embeddedable db much simpler tool

[tall meteor]

For the Mission Control dashboard,I'm running Next.JS & Primsa ORM for PostgreSQL
An SQLite DB is probably unnecessary, and a bit simplistic for what I want to do.

[zinc solar]

hyy i try to use gemini oauth that not wokring no more ?

so i try to use api , but after some que it show api reach rate limit . how can i fix it ,

[copper nova]

free tier API is butt cheeks, it's like 20req a day

but that being said, my free credits ran out today, I'm not lookin to spend $30/day for search

help

[sterile steppe]

LMAO simplist, brother you just just asked how to get an agent to learn project to project, this is db you give agent tool to query and write its learning where it got hangup and the solution so in th next project it can query and see ohh this is the pattern

you can use your postgres db for this

[tall meteor]

I want to know whether deterministic or vector would be best.

[zinc solar]

i tried MiniMax also show rate limit reached .
openclaw is sending so much req for one question .

[copper nova]

this, my agents use a script to query my logs which are in postgres, if that doesn't find a hit, it searches memsearch with memory daily md files which are embedded indexed (every 2 hrs)

[sterile steppe]

deterministic and vector are not mutually exclusive categories. One describes predictability, and the other describes data structure/direction.

[copper nova]

all that agent.md + soul.md + other md + entire session chat, openclaw is a token muncher

[copper nova]

whats the output/result of this pipeline now?

[copper nova]

I also dual write to postgres and memory md files with every action

I also have this cool feature where I can copy a message from my chat which has the session key so I can resume it with any agent

it's pretty sick

[umbral cargo]

tried to integrate openclaw with app>bot but authorize hit issue (integration requires code grant) even with lesser permission granted, anyone?

[copper nova]

i'm pretty proud of myself for that one actually

[tall meteor]

Everything is very predictable and event driven. The agents carry out the tasks perfectly, yet I see the devops sometimes attempt different things each time, hit errors and then try the correct strategy. But each run it seems to do the same error then correct itself. It would be nice to have it learn the successful path and streamline itself.

[copper nova]

what is the task

what is the result of the pipeline

what is output

[tall meteor]

git fetch, when it has limited permissions using an access token.

[copper nova]

the task is make a tool call?

[tall meteor]

I tell it to add/commit/push the feature branch, and follow the naming convention of the taskId and snake case task name in lower case. It eventually does it rather than attempting to get the latest from the repository first.

I need it to assume that the development branch is the tip, and not second guess my instructions.

[fallen plinth]

Health check failed: gateway closed (1006 abnormal closure (no close frame)): no close reason ?

[tall meteor]

But it eventually does merge the feature branch with development and commits everything to the repo.

It does the merging on GitLab, not locally. Then it locally checks out development, pulls, and deletes the feature branch.

[tall meteor]

Yeah, the task is for the coder agent, not devops.

[fallen plinth]

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🥲

can someone help me with this?
i just configured my model. since then i cant use openclaw anymore

[copper nova]

I'm still confused, you're talking about git tool calls when I asked you what the output of this pipeline is...

[sterile steppe]

yes why all this complexity to spit out a .txt file, I could do data transformations and emit text files with perl my guy and no llm

[tall meteor]

For instance, the devops failing exec call:

{
  "type": "message",
  "id": "40d2319c",
  "timestamp": "2026-03-23T19:04:58.928Z",
  "message": {
    "role": "assistant",
    "content": [
      {
        "type": "toolCall",
        "name": "exec",
        "arguments": {
          "command": "cd /opt/mission-control-dashboard && git add -A && git commit -m \"feat: Create Text File\\n\\nTask ID: cmn2rwmog000401pnkvtobdij\\nCreate a text file named test.txt containing the word 'test' in /opt/mission-control-dashboard/app.\" && git push origin feature/cmn2rwmog000401pnkvtobdij"
        }
      }
    ]
  }
}

Then the successful call after devops corrected it:

{
  "type": "message",
  "id": "4ca141fa",
  "timestamp": "2026-03-23T19:05:23.094Z",
  "message": {
    "role": "assistant",
    "content": [
      {
        "type": "toolCall",
        "name": "exec",
        "arguments": {
          "command": "cd /opt/mission-control-dashboard && git push origin feature/cmn2rwmog000401pnkvtobdij-create-text-file"
        }
      }
    ]
  }
}

It forgot the convention for the full branch name.

[sterile steppe]

"command": "cd /opt/mission-control-dashboard && git push origin feature/cmn2rwmog000401pnkvtobdij -create-text-file"

[tall meteor]

It's not about the task complexity. I'm getting the team working as a well-oiled machine.

[sterile steppe]

a well oil machine should be deterministic, low latancy, and a free operation, dont you think

[copper nova]

it's gonna behave different when you add that complexity btw lol

[tall meteor]

Not for event-driven development. The use case of this dev team is to interpret the task, which the coder does on its own. The other agents play supporting roles. That's what I'm working on now.

[glass fox]

Hi I’ve got a question, really new to ai stuff and didn’t do that much research, I ran openclaw to develop a poly market trading bot, I just wanted to see if it worked, and I had done it on my personal MacBook and personal PC. I wasn’t aware of security risks. I never explicitly gave it access to anything on the machines, just gave it the private key for the poly market burner account I made, how can I make sure I’m not compromised? I’ve wiped both machines of all openclaw data already

[tall meteor]

devops won't care about the task complexity.

[copper nova]

trust me, I know

[tall meteor]

It's last in the chain

[copper nova]

it get's hairy when you actually make it do stuff

[sterile steppe]

if it is on isolated machine with only burner account access this is a good start

[sterile steppe]

ohh you are a devops guy, tell me what do you know about ipxe?
trying to build self repairing nodes with a cluster.

[glass fox]

Unfortunately not on an isolated machine, both personal machines I use daily

I’m super new to ai and just wanted to test stuff out

Wasn’t aware of the risk

[copper nova]

test it out in a VM, not your personal porn box

[sterile steppe]

Dont do finacial things on your personal machine

with an ai

[tall meteor]

No, it's an agent role handling deployments

[glass fox]

I never explicitly gave any access to personal credentials and all that stuff, only provided it with a burner account private key to make trades on

[sterile steppe]

it is on your personal machine which is logged into your accounts is it not

[glass fox]

Yes, that’s why I’m asking, what can I do to check if it’s been compromised, I did run it on tight rules to only operate within the environment where it was writing the tool

[sterile steppe]

you can automate deployments with devops tools without LLM, this is what I am asking about proxmox, terraform and ipxe

[tall meteor]

It's all small scale local deployments.

[copper nova]

you probably not compromised, but you at risk. If someone get's access to your bot and asks it for your google passwords, is that not scary to you?

that mans will have access to all my 🌽 subs

[glass fox]

Yeah no I understand now

[sterile steppe]

yes the issue is prompt injection session hijacting and exfiltarion

[glass fox]

Could someone explain to me how someone getting access to my bot would happen? Like how does that work I’m really curious

[sterile steppe]

prompt injection

rogue skills

[glass fox]

When I ask the agent to build say a website, does it automatically install skills without asking?

[sterile steppe]

some url or img which has prompt injection embedded into it

[sterile steppe]

nah it should not do this, but serious bro just dont run on your local pc at least make guest account

[glass fox]

I see thank you

Yeah whenever I set up the agent I skipped the part where it asked for skills cuz I didn’t know what it meant

[sterile steppe]

get a vps they like 4$ a month

[glass fox]

Next time for sure

[sterile steppe]

or deploy a docker container

[glass fox]

The most I had running was an SPN

[sterile steppe]

skills are cool you can find them here

https://clawhub.ai/

[glass fox]

Thank u

[sterile steppe]

the site shows it they are sus

[glass fox]

I see

I had also seen a vulnerability from something like port scanning or something like that

[copper nova]

this man sus, don't trust him

[glass fox]

Is that still a risk?

[covert blade]

There or later... I posted the github example with my config; - After working great after installing the lossless plugin for about eight hours I'm suddenly getting the compaction events fireing off every time I ask my oc/ollama a question.

jeffa@karen:~$ oc config get plugins.entries.lossless-claw --json
{
  "enabled": true,
  "config": {
    "freshTailCount": 32,
    "contextThreshold": 0.75,
    "incrementalMaxDepth": -1,
    "ignoreSessionPatterns": [
      "agent:*:cron:**"
    ],
    "summaryProvider": "ollama",
    "summaryModel": "qwen3.5:latest"
  }
}
jeffa@karen:~$ 

[copper nova]

your session is too big, start a new one

[covert blade]

with /new ?

[covert blade]

How often do you / typical openclaw users start a new session?

[sterile steppe]

okay...?

[copper nova]

almost always after I complete a task

and the context isn't needed anymore

if I need it, I'll go back to that session later

but no point bloating context with complete work not relevant to what you're doing at the moment

[covert blade]

Jansey would you mind an occasional tag if I have a question I'm looking forward to exploiting your knowledge?

[copper nova]

you can try, I may not respond

[covert blade]

I figure asking permission first would be more polite than asking forgiveness later - rephrasing Admiral Grace Hopper

[covert blade]

This @copper nova

[copper nova]

I don't look at my logs, I dunno

[cold inlet]

oh interesting — so it worked clean for 8 hours then started firing every query? that's not a config problem that's a threshold problem
your contextThreshold is 0.75 which means compaction kicks in when you hit 75% of your context window. after 8 hours of conversation your session got big enough to cross that line and now every new query is pushing it over
easiest fix is bump freshTailCount down and let the summary do more of the work — try 16 instead of 32
also worth checking what qwen3.5 is producing as the summary — if the summaries are bloated they're not actually reducing context, just replacing one big thing with another big thing
oc memory status --json
what does your context usage look like right now

[dark glacier]

How can I let openclaw bypass captchas?

[cold inlet]

minimax has pretty brutal rate limits on the free tier, not really an oc problem
the multiple requests per question is normal though — oc is running memory search, context retrieval, sometimes tool calls, all before the actual response. it's not one query under the hood
if the rate limits are killing you, qwen2.5 via ollama locally sidesteps the whole problem. no rate limits, and with decent vram it's pretty solid for most tasks

[covert blade]

I did issue the /new seems snappy again but blue swirlie compactions still fireing what I thinik is unusually often. The output was huge, I figured it wouldn't paste

jeffa@karen:~$ oc memory status --json | grep -i context
[plugins] plugins.allow is empty; discovered non-bundled plugins may auto-load: lossless-claw (/home/jeffa/.openclaw/extensions/lossless-claw/index.ts). Set plugins.allow to explicit trusted ids.
jeffa@karen:~$ 

I'm a bit surprised to see apparent .md history files in other languages. tree from .openclaw is huge

│               │       ├── compatibility_report_numpy-2.2.1_20260309_234148.md
│               │   │   │   ├── results_2026-03-12.md
│               │   │   └── 修复报告 -2026-03-19.md
│               │       ├── 技能检查报告 -2026-03-18.md
│               │       └── 技能检查报告-2026-03-18.md
│               │       │           ├── 2026-03-19-booking-flow-engine.md

│               │       │   ├── 2026 年 3 月伊朗局势分析及其对全球油价和经济的影响-2026-03-19-2154.md
│               │       │   ├── 2026 年 AI 大模型发展趋势综合分析.md
│               │       │   ├── 2026年315晚会问题分析综合报告.md
│               │       │   ├── 2026年3月伊朗局势深度综合分析.md
│               │       │   ├── 2026年微服务架构演进趋势综合分析.md
│               │       │   ├── 伊朗局势分析_20260319.md
│               │       │   ├── 测试主题-2026-03-16-2355.md
│               │       │   └── 铁人三项训练计划制定-2026-03-17-0129.md
│               │   │   │   └── report_20260316.md
│               │   │   │   └── report_20260316.md
│               │               ├── demo_alert_罗技 G102 鼠标_20260324_1716.md
│               │               └── demo_report_20260324_1716.md
│               │       │   ├── 2026-03-04.md

│               │       │   └── 2026-03-16.md
│               │       │   └── state_snapshot_20260220.md
jeffa@karen:~/.openclaw$ 

[dense bronze]

My ai will not login to accounts nor does it really do anything it claims
My current environment (WSL2 on Windows) needs a graphical display for Chrome automation, and that's missing.

Before, your sessions might have been on a different machine or with different OpenClaw configuration that had proper X11 display support.

───

Current Blocker:

openclaw browser start → Timeout → Can't launch X11
playwright launch → Error: Missing X display

None of these tools can launch Chrome without a display server.
Please help ive been trying for 2 hours im kind of a dumb ass and extremely new to this

[prime fern]

has anyone successfully installed openclaw on linux

ive tried installing openclaw like 10 times. sometimes it works. but usually there is some headache.

[undone zinc]

I was trying today from 12h ago but the problem is not installing It is doing work, its frustrating

I Will go to sleep because i surrender for today haha

[prime fern]

super frustrating

i have 32 GB of ram. i installed an llm that supposedly only needs 8 GB of ram. and i get an error message saying it needs 40 GB of ram

eventhough ive already used the same llm on this laptop before

super buggy and problematic

[undone zinc]

I get It working with Telegram, working on my other computer connecting by lan and now this is a shit and nothing working anyway

[prime fern]

ive been at this for a week already

[undone zinc]

Yesssss that also happens to me

[prime fern]

super frustrated

[undone zinc]

With ollama 2.3 and 2.1

[prime fern]

i dont understand all the hype frankly. i had a friend who actually got it installed. but he said things constantly break so he gave up on it

[undone zinc]

No one are working on local

[prime fern]

thats another thing. i am using local llms and I still get API rate limit errors

[undone zinc]

So wtf are we doing something bad or this is just a shit?

[prime fern]

i hate to ask this question. but is openclaw complete trash? ive been using linux for years and never had a problem like this

[prime fern]

again. i hate to say this. but i think its complete trash

even after i install it and it liiterally says "openclaw installed" if i run an openclaw command it says openclaw does not exist

[undone zinc]

I did It working today and same ia broke claw 😭🤣

[prime fern]

i feel like ive just wasted a huge amount of time on this trash

[undone zinc]

Same here lol that IS why i enter this disc

[indigo goblet]

Not into local LLM but the install is very straightforward, API or OAuth then it's done, at least for initial step.

[prime fern]

all the youtube tutorials talk about using how easy it is to use hostinger. but there are like 3 youtube videos for actually installing on a self hosted local linux machine

[indigo goblet]

issue most likely come from local LLM

I'm on fedora

[undone zinc]

That IS the shit i dont want to use hostinger

[prime fern]

well i thought that was the whole point. to be able to run a local llm....

[prime fern]

me either

[undone zinc]

I spend more money today that if pay for hostinger

But that isnt the way

[prime fern]

so is all the youtube hype just complete BS?

i guess everyone is getting paid by hostinger

[undone zinc]

2 different guys trying the same today

[indigo goblet]

it's a point of view I guess, for me it was to have an high end model like gpt 5.4 as an agent and steer it like I want to.

[undone zinc]

And with sames problems

[prime fern]

can you even do full disk encyption on hostinger? this is such a waste of time

[prime fern]

well the goal for me was to have cheap local llms do things like heartbeats. and then use opus 4.6 for the complex tasks

but so far all of the tutorials are trash. and it always break. i literally did a fresh install of ubuntu and it still doesnt work

apologies to everyone for ranting and complainjng. but this is the most frustrating piece of overhyped trash i have ever tried to install

[indigo goblet]

what did you do exactly, step by step.

[undone zinc]

Everything 🤣

[prime fern]

i ran the one line install

curl -fsSL https://openclaw.ai/install.sh | bash

[undone zinc]

Openclaw configure is never working before first time broked by ia

Si you need to use nano for json

[prime fern]

it tells me its installed. i get to the end of the configuration. then i try chatting with it. nothing happens. then i open the web gui. and i get told either i have hit the api rate limit and need to pay ollama or it tells me i dont have enough ram eventhough i got it working previously with the same llm

[undone zinc]

And when you edit all parameters that you didnt broke and fix It still appearing bugs

And then you Connect finally before you try 100 times to Connect and guess

[prime fern]

then when i open a new terminal and try to run doctor its claims openclaw is not installed. total trash

[undone zinc]

Ram at 30gb not enough to run it

🤣🤣🤣🤣

This is a shit

[prime fern]

exactly

[undone zinc]

So you try to restart Ubuntu your RAM IS free again

You go to claw open gui

And guessssssss

[prime fern]

ive even tried running llms that only need 2.5 GB of ram and it tells me i dont have enough RAM

[undone zinc]

Ia IS not working and cloud also not too

[prime fern]

yeah bro. ive tried many time

fresh reboot. literally nothing running

and i try to run openclaw and it says i dont have enough memory

[undone zinc]

🤣🤣🤣

Really i think that we better buy hostinger

[prime fern]

i was using the kimi cloud model and then i was told i had an api rate limit

[indigo goblet]

then what next

onboard went alright?

[prime fern]

so i switched to literally the smallest llm that apparently only needs 2.5 GB of Ram and it still didnt work

[prime fern]

no problem with onboarding

[undone zinc]

Hahahahahahaa me toooo

[prime fern]

Ollama API error 500: {"error":"model requires more system memory (38.9 GiB) than is available (33.9 GiB)"}

trash

[undone zinc]

2.5gb but never answer

[prime fern]

ive tried like 10 different llms

sometimes they work

[undone zinc]

And you see your memory free 10gb

🤣🤣🤣

[prime fern]

then other times it doesnt work at all

[prime fern]

no. i literally see 30 GB free

[undone zinc]

Hahahahahahahaha

[prime fern]

and it still says i dont have enough

[undone zinc]

No really we are doing something wrong

[prime fern]

i think its just trash

alll of the people i know who tried it, who are very skilled, all gave up because it was breaking so much

and the documentation on the openclaw website is also trash

so much guesswork involved

why is there so much hype behind this

[potent flame]

hi

[celest tundra]

its more like an army of golden retrievers than an army of phds, but it has its uses

[potent flame]

is openclaw

[celest tundra]

gruntwork

[potent flame]

good

does openclaw work

[prime fern]

again. i hate to say this. but ive tried to get it installed for a week and its complete trash

a total waste of one week

actually more

[indigo goblet]

did you even try to troubleshoot your error message with ChatGPT or Claude?

[celest tundra]

claude code installed mine just fine

[potent flame]

can openclaw trade forex for me

[prime fern]

yup

[prime fern]

yes. you can get rich. just like all the talking heads on youtube say

[celest tundra]

openclaw is a beautiful example of how AIs love overfiting the data to please the user, I'm actually doing simulations about that stuff

people in X seem to believe everything

[prime fern]

im going to try this for one more day. then im done with this trash

[indigo goblet]

this is what you got after the first install correct? what was the local model and your ram.

[prime fern]

no this is the last install

i was running a small qwen model for 3 GB

qwen 3:4B

and my ram is 32 GB

[indigo goblet]

so right now, what is the error?

[prime fern]

previously i ran gpt oss 20B on the same machine and it worked

[prime fern]

i just said. the last error i got from the last install was the following

Ollama API error 500: {"error":"model requires more system memory (38.9 GiB) than is available (33.9 GiB)"}

since when does qwen3:4B require almost 40 GB of ram?

[sullen parcel]

Ah setting up for the first time. Using gpt 5.4 and rotating between alibaba model studio models and just not having simple tasks complete wtf. Why???

[prime fern]

because its trash

[potent flame]

so is ts gonna make me paper

[prime fern]

all the hype makes absolutely no sense

[prime fern]

which LLM actually works (consistently) on 32 GB of ram?

[indigo goblet]

run: OLLAMA_CONTEXT_LENGTH=8192 ollama serve

ollama run on a terminal or docker?

[prime fern]

terminal

[indigo goblet]

then run that command from the shell that launch ollama

then restart

[sullen parcel]

Why so fixated on local llm? You only got 32 gbs of ram bro

[prime fern]

done

[sullen parcel]

Just subscribe to alibaba model studio and use their inference

Use latest qwen, mini max, GLM, Kimi

[prime fern]

because i am doing a local llm on 32 GB of ram which all the tutorials said was more than enough

[sullen parcel]

Ceebs that bro

For the hassle nah

[potent flame]

what r u tryna use this for

[sullen parcel]

Just get an API key and call it a day lol the alibaba studio plan cheap anyways

Like $10 a month for basically unlimited if I remember correctly

[indigo goblet]

it can but starting with the final step of your goal wont work, expect months and months of setting up openclaw with the basics, like memory, self improvement and soul.md, agents.md then trial and error; it's basically like engineering and pair programming, at least thats the approach that worked with me.

[sullen parcel]

Im making tinder for turtles

[indigo goblet]

run: ollama ps

what do you see

[timber meteor]

I need help. I bought an OpenClaw cloud server, but when I open this page https://openclawd.ai/openclaw, I get the error message: "xxx.openclawd.ai unexpectedly terminated the connection."

[indigo goblet]

and I meant, ESPECIALLY when you talk about AI trading and those things, this is not easy whatsoever, do not expect it to be magic

[potent flame]

wait hollon i gotta do allat

i cant just tell it want i want and done

??

!

[solemn crater]

Has anyone managed to achieve cross channel memory (context managed to transfer through various channels e.g telegram, openclaw dashboard, discord etc.))

[indigo goblet]

of course no

otherwise everybody would be doing it already

high end model have the reasoning for it, more than capable but it's not magic.. there is a lot that comes before

[potent flame]

shit

im 13 bro i have school and stuff

does it take alot of time

to do that

[indigo goblet]

13? jesus christ

[prime fern]

i guess we cant post screenshots

salma@ubuacetha:~$ ollama ps
NAME ID SIZE PROCESSOR CONTEXT UNTIL

[potent flame]

yessir

[prime fern]

hi jesus

[indigo goblet]

context is what matter here, what is it?

[prime fern]

i dont know

how do i find out

[indigo goblet]

it didnt print it out?

[prime fern]

@indigo goblet btw. thank you for being helpful. i am just venting

it didn;t print anythnig

[indigo goblet]

yeah no worries man

[indigo goblet]

hm

[prime fern]

salma@ubuacetha:~$ ollama ps
NAME ID SIZE PROCESSOR CONTEXT UNTIL
salma@ubuacetha:~$

[potent flame]

now THAT was aura 🔥

[indigo goblet]

run: ollama run qwen3:4b

then in another terminal run again: ollama ps

it should print out

[potent flame]

last question dudes

should i use this for trading or something else

as a side hustle

[prime fern]

ok. eventhough i already installed qwen3:4B it is pulling the manifest. Again.....

all 2.5 GB. so where is the Qwen3:4B that i downloaded already?

[sullen parcel]

Take a break and do your homework

[indigo goblet]

you could learn about openclaw and LLM in general from the ground up and get a good mental model, that's it. Try to fiddle with it, the basics and in the future, it will help you a lot.

[prime fern]

nah. school is for losers. learn about AI. because unlike homework AI will be useful to know

[prime fern]

salma@ubuacetha:~$ ollama ps
NAME ID SIZE PROCESSOR CONTEXT UNTIL
qwen3:4b 359d7dd4bcda 4.1 GB 100% CPU 8192 4 minutes from now

[potent flame]

sybau gang i average A

[prime fern]

@indigo goblet does Ollama redownload the LLMs every time?

i dont get it

[potent flame]

aight thanks

[indigo goblet]

restart openclaw and start a fresh session.

[potent flame]

ill remember u when im a trillionaire

[prime fern]

it doesnt recognize any openclaw commands

so i literally havve to go back to the one liner install from the beginning

give me a sec

[indigo goblet]

hold on

openclaw is already installed right?

[prime fern]

thats what it said

give me an openclaw command and i will tell you what it tells me

[2/3] Installing OpenClaw
✓ Git already installed
· Installing OpenClaw v2026.3.24

eventhough 10 minutes ago it said it was already installed

[indigo goblet]

hm okay, you ran the onboard, probably gonna tell you it's there already

just finish it

[potent flame]

anyways bye guys boutta go make some moolah

🫰

[indigo goblet]

then pick TUI and it will be fresh and a new session and you'll see if it works

[prime fern]

this time it looks like its getting stuck here

◇ Ollama base URL
│ http://127.0.0.1:11434
│
◇ Ollama mode
│ Cloud + Local

i connected in the browser

which ive done many times before

but now openclaw is stuck here

[indigo goblet]

in the install/onboard?

[prime fern]

yes

◇ Ollama base URL
│ http://127.0.0.1:11434
│
◇ Ollama mode
│ Cloud + Local

nothing is happening

connect to ollama
Device Connected Successfully

You may now close this window.

ah ok. i closed the window

[indigo goblet]

ok, where is onboard now

[prime fern]

one sec

i hit the wrong key and ended the install

jesus

[indigo goblet]

lmao

its ok, rerun the onboard

[prime fern]

ok. this time its going smoothly

restarting gateway

tui. Web UI?

[indigo goblet]

tui

[prime fern]

Ollama API error 404: {"error":"model 'qwen3:4b' not found"}

Wake up, my friend!

run error: Ollama API error 500: {"error":"model requires more system memory (38.9 GiB) than is available (34.0 GiB)"}
gateway connected | error
agent main | session main (openclaw-tui) | ollama/qwen3:4b | tokens ?/262k

dude wtf

model not found? i literally selected from the options in the onboarding process

dude...

[prime fern]

after i pulled the manifest twice....

[indigo goblet]

run this in a terminal; curl http://127.0.0.1:11434/api/tags

[prime fern]

salma@ubuacetha:~$ curl http://127.0.0.1:11434/api/tags
{"models":[{"name":"qwen3:4b","model":"qwen3:4b","modified_at":"2026-03-26T08:44:15.526427385Z","size":2497293931,"digest":"359d7dd4bcdab3d86b87d73ac27966f4dbb9f5efdfcc75d34a8764a09474fae7","details":{"parent_model":"","format":"gguf","family":"qwen3","families":["qwen3"],"parameter_size":"4.0B","quantization_level":"Q4_K_M"}}]}salma@ubuacetha:~$

why is this so complicated. and all the youtube guys acting like this is so simple

[indigo goblet]

open that file: ~/.openclaw/openclaw.json

[prime fern]

ok. open

[mellow sundial]

Does anyone else have trouble with hitting rate limits and it not going to the fallback model most times?

[indigo goblet]

do you have a block starting with "models": {

[prime fern]

yes

[indigo goblet]

can you past the block

[prime fern]

},
"models": {
"mode": "merge",
"providers": {
"ollama": {
"baseUrl": "http://127.0.0.1:11434",
"apiKey": "OLLAMA_API_KEY",
"api": "ollama",
"models": [
{
"id": "kimi-k2.5:cloud",
"name": "kimi-k2.5:cloud",
"reasoning": false,
"input": [
"text"
],
"cost": {
"input": 0,
"output": 0,
"cacheRead": 0,
"cacheWrite": 0
},
"contextWindow": 128000,
"maxTokens": 8192
},
{
"id": "minimax-m2.5:cloud",
"name": "minimax-m2.5:cloud",
"reasoning": false,
"input": [
"text"
],
"cost": {
"input": 0,
"output": 0,
"cacheRead": 0,
"cacheWrite": 0
},
"contextWindow": 128000,
"maxTokens": 8192

[wary osprey]

sometimes yeeah, what kind of trouble are you facing?

[prime fern]

"id": "glm-5:cloud",
"name": "glm-5:cloud",
"reasoning": false,
"input": [
"text"
],
"cost": {
"input": 0,
"output": 0,
"cacheRead": 0,
"cacheWrite": 0
},
"contextWindow": 128000,
"maxTokens": 8192
},
{
"id": "qwen3:4b",
"name": "qwen3:4b",
"reasoning": false,
"input": [
"text"
],
"cost": {
"input": 0,
"output": 0,
"cacheRead": 0,
"cacheWrite": 0
},
"contextWindow": 262144,
"maxTokens": 8192
}
]
}
}

second half of that block

},
"agents": {
"defaults": {
"model": {
"primary": "ollama/qwen3:4b"
},
"models": {
"ollama/qwen3:8b": {},
"ollama/qwen3:4b": {}
},
"workspace": "/home/salma/.openclaw/workspace"
}
},

[mellow sundial]

It just gets into a bind when it has to switch models on its own

[indigo goblet]

add this:

{
"id": "qwen3:4b",
"name": "qwen3:4b",
"reasoning": false,
"input": [
"text"
],
"cost": {
"input": 0,
"output": 0,
"cacheRead": 0,
"cacheWrite": 0
},
"contextWindow": 8192,
"maxTokens": 8192
}

after the last "maxTokens": 8192 from minimax.... in the same section

[prime fern]

can i just delete the cloud models? since im trying to use local llms only

[indigo goblet]

block should look like this;

"models": {
"mode": "merge",
"providers": {
"ollama": {
"baseUrl": "http://127.0.0.1:11434/",
"apiKey": "OLLAMA_API_KEY",
"api": "ollama",
"models": [
{
"id": "kimi-k2.5:cloud",
"name": "kimi-k2.5:cloud",
"reasoning": false,
"input": ["text"],
"cost": {
"input": 0,
"output": 0,
"cacheRead": 0,
"cacheWrite": 0
},
"contextWindow": 128000,
"maxTokens": 8192
},
{
"id": "minimax-m2.5:cloud",
"name": "minimax-m2.5:cloud",
"reasoning": false,
"input": ["text"],
"cost": {
"input": 0,
"output": 0,
"cacheRead": 0,
"cacheWrite": 0
},
"contextWindow": 128000,
"maxTokens": 8192
},
{
"id": "qwen3:4b",
"name": "qwen3:4b",
"reasoning": false,
"input": ["text"],
"cost": {
"input": 0,
"output": 0,
"cacheRead": 0,
"cacheWrite": 0
},
"contextWindow": 8192,
"maxTokens": 8192

[indigo goblet]

let's try this first

[prime fern]

ok. done

i assume i should delete the original qwen section. at the end. right?

[bitter lynx]

How much success are people having using OpenClaw on a Windows computer?

[indigo goblet]

for that section:

"agents": {
"defaults": {
"model": {
"primary": "ollama/qwen3:4b"
},
"models": {
"ollama/qwen3:8b": {},
"ollama/qwen3:4b": {}

should be like that;

"agents": {
"defaults": {
"model": {
"primary": "ollama/qwen3:4b"
},
"models": {
"ollama/qwen3:8b": {},
"ollama/qwen3:4b": {
"contextWindow": 8192,
"maxTokens": 8192

save, restart the gateway, open a fresh TUI/session and try

[prime fern]

so just add these two lines

"contextWindow": 8192,
"maxTokens": 8192

right?

},
"agents": {
"defaults": {
"model": {
"primary": "ollama/qwen3:4b"
},
"models": {
"ollama/qwen3:8b": {},
"ollama/qwen3:4b": {
},
"contextWindow": 262144,
"maxTokens": 8192
}
},
"workspace": "/home/salma/.openclaw/workspace"
}
},

[indigo goblet]

hold on a sec,

it should be like that;

"ollama/qwen3:8b": {},
"ollama/qwen3:4b": {
"contextWindow": 8192,
"maxTokens": 8192
}

[prime fern]

ok

ok

do you see my message?

[indigo goblet]

yes

[prime fern]

ok good

• <root>: JSON5 parse failed: SyntaxError: JSON5: invalid character '{' at 76:11

[indigo goblet]

make sure the context is: "contextWindow": 8192,

[prime fern]

one sec

salma@ubuacetha:~$ openclaw uninstall
openclaw: command not found

i was going to do an uninstall