users-helping-users

[candid socket]

assuming you did this ye?
mkdir '/home/openclaw'
chown -R 1000:1000 /home/openclaw

[hollow ermine]

yes same problem

[candid socket]

i think you are using a model that doesnt support audio? you can make use of openai whisper

you can modify the dockerfile and setup brew then

RUN brew install openai-whisper
&& ln -sf /home/linuxbrew/.linuxbrew/bin/whisper /home/node/.local/bin/whisper

the plugin should work after that. or you can just add an openai api key

[candid socket]

maybe try chmod it with 770?

[hollow ermine]

nope still errors,

[candid socket]

cant think of anything off the top of my head, are you using a docker setup by any chance? cos i had similar issues when setting up using a docker

[hollow ermine]

no I'm staying away fromdocker, just a dedicated box

[candid socket]

may i know your exact chown command and can you do a ls -la on that directory

[latent hedge]

Cron jobs failed as they were set to use Minimax 2.5, but it wasnt allowed in the openclaw.json. Asked it to update it.. gateway went down. Reported a gateway bind issue.. then I did a gateway status... then it said there was an error in openclaw.json to do a doctor --fix.
Then I did an openclaw doctor --fix, and now I get a: Error: Config validation failed: gateway.bind: Invalid input

What the heck.. this is the newest openclaw updated this morning. Anyone ever had this, and have an idea of how to fix it?

[coarse sigil]

Well, since I had first setup openclaw. I had been using gemini models which does support audio. I recently switched to gemini 3 flash but I just tested the older models and still the same issue.

I will try the openai-whisper approach and see. Thanks

[hollow ermine]

embyserver@emby-server:~$ ls -la openclaw total 8 drwxrwx--- 2 embyserver embyserver 4096 Feb 16 08:31 . drwxr-x--- 26 embyserver embyserver 4096 Feb 16 08:31 ..

[candid socket]

i think you can just edit the .json and set a proper bind like loopback or lan

[candid socket]

ye seems like they are not chowned. did you run this exact command

chown -R 1000:1000 openclaw

[hasty gyro]

Any good you tube video recommended for getting open claw set up safely on laptop?

[hollow ermine]

yes but it doesn't change the permissions

[candid socket]

you did this with "-R" ye? if so then i am probably missing smt stupid

[hollow ermine]

is it because my migrated folder was brought over from another machine?

[candid socket]

local model isnt too bad for speed/accuracy, i wouldnt waste money on the api method btw

[hollow ermine]

I copied from your line and pasted it in

[coarse sigil]

I never configured it to use the gemini models for transcriptions and I assumed it was using a local model. Maybe that has changed with the recent changes.

[candid socket]

ye i have done migration before, usually chowning it would work, but if the owners isnt even changing, maybe its a perms issue? try sudo chown -R 1000:1000 openclaw, but ye i am most likely missing something quite simple

[hollow ermine]

how do I check node has write access to that dir

[candid socket]

you can do -ls ld

[uneven ether]

can anyone help me with this

wacli

Install missing skill dependencies

wacli

Install failed: wacli (exit 1) - C:\Users\advit\go\pkg\mod\github.com\steipete\wacli@v0.2.0\internal\lock\lock.go:50:43: u
ndefined: syscall. LOCK_UN

github.com/steipete/wacli/internal/lock

C: \Users\advit\go\pkg\mod\github.com\steipete\wacli@v0.2.0\internal\lock\lock.go:27:20: undefined: syscall. Flock
C: \Users\advit\go\pkg\mod\github.com\steipete\wacli@v0.2.0\internal\lock\lock.go:27:47: undefined: syscall.LOCK_EX
C: \Users\advit\go\pkg\mod\github.com\steipete\wacli@v0.2.0\internal\lock\lock.go:27:63: undefined: syscall.LOCK_NB
C: \Users\advit\go\pkg\mod\github.com\steipete\wacli@v0.2.0\internal\lock\lock.go:50:14: undefined: syscall. Flock
C: \Users\advit\go\pkg\mod\github.com\steipete\wacli@v0.2.0\internal\lock\lock.go:50:43: undefined: syscall.LOCK_UN
Tip: run 'openclaw doctor' to review skills + requirements.
Docs: https://docs.openclaw.ai/skills

[hollow ermine]

noticed this, the full path to openclaw dir on my rig is /home/newHomeDir/openclaw

[hollow ermine]

ls -ld openclaw
drwxrwxr-x 2 embyserver embyserver 4096 Feb 16 08:54 openclaw

[candid socket]

btw i am not familiar with the non docker setup, every single thing i have is in a docker. but i am assuming your migration process is moving the folder over then running the installer script?

[quick karma]

Looking for someone who can help to finish my set up via screen share.

[latent hedge]

Yeah.. still gives me a token mismatch. Very odd... cant rotate the token either. never had this issue before.

[hollow ermine]

yes that's what I did, it may be NPM issue as it's non docker

got it! I was making the openclaw dir in ~/ not /home/ doh!

random question - how do you stop new messages appearing off the bottom of the chat view in the gateway dashboard? it's annoying clicking new message every time to see it

[west mesa]

How do I make sure a skill is always loaded in session memory?

[fathom walrus]

honestly best way is to have something next to it, like gemini, chatgpt or claude to help you set it up because it will really dig into your specific setup

[fathom walrus]

this is current behaviour

[daring moon]

I'm losing my mind trying to set exec permissions properly on my Openclaw's Mac.

The Krill bot responses and everything I ask the bot directly are not helpful. I'm trying to be responsible and use an allowlist but it won't even do basic allowlist stuff (like cp). Is there a HELPFUL guide somewhere?

[fathom walrus]

maybe share the issue you are running into, so we can help a bit?

[daring moon]

Specifically I try to ask it to copy a file to a folder (which has worked before) and it tells me "still hitting approval gate." This is from Discord or from the Mac in the tui.

Of course I see no "approval gate" anywhere.

[slender torrent]

Hey guys, trying to install it but in cmd Im looking on this error? Someone who knows what it mean?

node.exe : npm error code ENOENT
At line:1 char:1

• & "C:\Program Files\nodejs/node.exe" "C:\Program Files\nodejs/node_mo ...

•   + CategoryInfo          : NotSpecified: (npm error code ENOENT:String) [], RemoteException
    + FullyQualifiedErrorId : NativeCommandError

In Powershell Im looking on different error:
iex : File C:\Program Files\nodejs\npm.ps1 cannot be loaded because running scripts is disabled on this system. For mor
e information, see about_Execution_Policies at https:/go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=135170.
At line:1 char:45

• iwr -useb https://openclaw.ai/install.ps1 | iex

•                                         ~~~
  

  • CategoryInfo : SecurityError: (:) [Invoke-Expression], PSSecurityException
  • FullyQualifiedErrorId : UnauthorizedAccess,Microsoft.PowerShell.Commands.InvokeExpressionCommand

[hollow ermine]

there's a command you can run in PS to enable scripts, quick web search will find it

[warm lion]

someone please tell me that this anthropic rate limit is a joke 😄

[candid socket]

i think you can include* that instruction in your agents.md. and check with /context list. you can read through https://docs.openclaw.ai/concepts/context for more info also

[cedar ember]

Heya, how do i give elevated access via Discord on the WebUI? I dont wanna approive every single thing etc

[fathom walrus]

it indeed is a joke....

[cedar ember]

"elevated": {
"enabled": true,
"allowFrom": [
"discord"
]
}

Because that just gives invalid config

[sinful adder]

hi anyone have tried to let your agent coordinate some in-real-life things?

like let your agent ask someone to finish some task for you

[candid socket]

https://docs.openclaw.ai/tools/elevated#elevated-mode

you can just send a single message in your discord chat "/elevated on"

[cedar ember]

elevated is not available right now (runtime=direct).
Failing gates: allowFrom (tools.elevated.allowFrom.discord)
Fix-it keys:
tools.elevated.enabled
tools.elevated.allowFrom.<provider>
agents.list[].tools.elevated.enabled
agents.list[].tools.elevated.allowFrom.<provider>
See: openclaw sandbox explain --session agent:main:main

I'll have to see

[steep sluice]

hey new to channel and just setting up openclaw but having issues with not response from openclaw tui, anyone can help point me to the right direction for troubleshooting?

[cedar ember]

~
❯ openclaw sandbox explain --session agent:main:main

~
❯

Helpful

[latent hedge]

Anyone ever bumped into : disconnected (1008): device identity required

[dim harbor]

its a good way to actually get banned by anthropic, people here worry about using it, and you are maxing it out like a mad man 🤣

[half zealot]

Hey, has anyone hooked their digital friend to a 3D printer? I've been thinking of doing that.

[coarse sigil]

It worked great with the local model. Thanks a lot.

Do you also have any tips on setting up a browserless (self hosted) configuration.

I have the following browser tool configuration:

  "browser": {
    "enabled": true,
    "remoteCdpTimeoutMs": 2000,
    "remoteCdpHandshakeTimeoutMs": 4000,
    "headless": true,
    "defaultProfile": "browserless",
    "profiles": {
      "openclaw": {
        "cdpPort": 18800,
        "color": "#FF4500"
      },
      "browserless": {
        "cdpUrl": "http://openclaw-chrome:3000",
        "color": "#00AA00"
      }
    }
  },

I made the agent try all three: chrome, openclaw and browserless profiles. The first two has errors about not finding a local installed browser (which is expected). While the browserless profile results in this error:

Error: Error: Port 3000 is in use for profile "browserless" but not by openclaw. Run action=reset-profile profile=browserless to kill the process

I tried running the reset-profile but the cli complained about the browser being remote. I also tried different ports with no luck.

[pseudo parcel]

How to make memory properly work? My not keeps forgetting how skills work!

[warm lion]

might be a dumb question but why is it like this? in the end I am paying them money so why would they ban me?

[low patrol]

My Claude Max ran out for the week, Codex token maxed (didn't know that was a thing) and got blocked by Google for misusing their cli model. I need my OC network to work.
And my local hardware isn't strong enough to run anything.
Help

[formal arch]

Hello all. Just spent a scintillating 5-6 hours over the last few days trying to make this thing work with LM, and a local model. Can't even get the basic chat to work in the OC dashboard. Been using Chat GPT to help with the install because I'm a noob, however, it seems I'm running in circles with it. If someone knows of a tutorial for installing LM Studio + Local model, I'd be much obliged for a share here.

[charred peak]

how to add mistral to openclaw ?

[south cloud]

I have this setup and working. There are limitations as to openclaws context window, how openclaw constructs requests to an LLM and token/contextwindow management. First off: How much VRAM does you GPU have?

[crimson sluice]

I really need some help fixing ghost processes preventing browser tools from accessing ports. anyone seasoned with this stuff?

[short dagger]

Once I get OpenClaw workign with ollama/qwen3-coder:30b, and am able to chat with it... how do I get it able to create a folder? I tried allowing the mkdir tools but it keeps thinking its creating folders when its not

[formal arch]

Thanks. Top of the line 5090 32gig VRAM

[round pewter]

What models/subscriptions are you using guys?

[south cloud]

The main thing to keep in mind is that LLM size on disk + context length (context window in openclaw.json config) = required VRAM

You have a healthy environment for running locally

You can set up LM Studio to run a couple of ways. GUI + a second server, effectively running 2 LLM's at once. 1 LLM will be GPU only, the other can use system ram and cpu.

[prime spindle]

Ok, now I NEED A HAND. Telegram messages just autodelete in front of me. I can read a little part and then... PUF. They disapear (I still can read my agent on the dashboard). Discord, SAME. WTH?!?!?! This is new... I updated to 2026-2-15... I think that was a terrible idea.

[south cloud]

The other way would be single instance LLM using both GPU & system ram, but that is slower. It will allow for a larger LLM and context length in LM Studio and context window in openclaw

[short dagger]

Why use LM Studio over ollama? Different model choices?

[dusty pond]

I already had a look at #1459642797895319552 but couldnt find a proper answer: can someone explain why I get: agentId is not allowed for sessions_spawn. so basically can't start agents

[south cloud]

I would suggest - this is what I'm working on right now - is have the main agent in openclaw use VRAM, and set up a second LM STudio server instance to run a second model in system ram. On the second LM Studio instance, tell your mai agent to spawn a sub-agent and use the second instance of LM Studio running on system ram.

[vagrant linden]

any idea why i'm seeing this warnings in the chat? ⚠️ 🛠️ Exec: ls -la ~/.openclaw/agents/main/sessions/*.jsonl 2>/dev/null | grep "Jan 29" failed: Command exited with code 1. I hate it

[south cloud]

LM studio can have many headless servers each running their own model and context length. The more GPU VRAM, and system ram the more server instances your machine can run

BUT you can only have 1 LM Studio GUI running, so the other instances have to be headless (command line to interface)

[sly sluice]

Question? Running through termux on my A16. Got persistence after killed processes and exiting termux. Still running and ignoring json file change. Thoughts? Advice lol

[faint pulsar]

Hi all, I’m new here and wanted to know if there’s a really good resource / video to learn about openclaw and more importantly its capabilities and how i can best use it? I’ve limited experience with ai tools (just used windsurf so far) so trying to learn and I think this is really loved by the community so wanted to know more, thanks in anticipation!

[south cloud]

@formal arch give me a minute, I'll summerize my openclaw.json and paste it in here to get you started. I'll also take a screenshot of the current LM Studio settings I'm using.

You GPU has double my laptop GPU, so take my context window settings, and tweak them. Main this to remember, LLM size on disk + context length = required VRAM

[forest scroll]

Hey team — I’ve got a Gmail → local export → OpenClaw Indexer pipeline running on a DO VPS. I’ve backfilled ~97k emails into emails.jsonl and I’m incrementally generating annotations.csv + email_insights.csv.

Now I want the agent to be able to “see attachments”, but I’m trying to keep storage very low.

**Goal: **Attachment awareness + searchability without downloading everything.

Questions:

1. What’s the best pattern you recommend for attachments with minimal disk usage?

• Index only metadata (filename, mimeType, size, gmail_id)?
• Download only selected types (PDF/DOCX) + size cap?
• Extract text only (PDF text) and discard the binary?

2. Do you have a reference implementation / best practice for:

• Deduping attachments (hashing)
• Storing only an index + on-demand fetch when needed
• Linking extracted text back to gmail_id/thread_id

3. Any “gotchas” with Gmail API attachment fetching at scale (rate limits, timeouts), and what limits (file size/type) work well in practice?

Current setup:

• Sync runs on host (systemd), exports to /srv/email-index/data (mounted into container)
• Agent reads emails.jsonl, writes annotations.csv, backlog processing in batches
• I currently exclude spam/trash; can include all categories if needed

If you’ve done this before, what approach would you pick for “efficient and reliable” on a small VP

[steep rapids]

LLM request rejected: tools.21.custom.input_schema: JSON schema is invalid. It must match JSON Schema draft 2020-12
After updating OpenClaw, I keep getting this error, and I cannot for the life of me figure out what I need to do to get my OpenClaw working again. Any ideass?

[untold holly]

Hello guys, is there a skill for OpenClaw (I want the agent to be able to update itself)?

[wide sand]

watchtower if you're using docker

Anyone running multiple agents with their own Discord bots, each in their own channel? I've got 4 agents set up and the routing/communication side is working - they delegate tasks to each other via sessions_send, each stays in their own channel.

The problem now is the sandbox environment. Each agent needs access to shared tools (Playwright, Bitwarden), shared skills, and their own memory/context - but they're isolated in their own workspaces. Skills installed in the shared directory work, but getting consistent access to things like browser automation, credentials, and persistent memory across sandboxed agents is a constant fight. One agent can run a Playwright script fine, the next one can't find the binary or the libs.

Has anyone figured out a clean pattern for multi-agent setups where agents share tooling but keep separate context? Or is everyone still running single-agent?

[untold holly]

I'm looking for something the agent can read to understand the different configuration fields of openclaw.json

[wide sand]

all you have to do is use context7 or fead it the github or the docs in order to learn the configs? but that has nothing to do with updating.

[untold holly]

I have some scripts to setup the agent in a docker container, and want it to have the correct context to understand how openclaw works, that's why I was asking for a skill that could be used

[wide sand]

tell it to make the skill you're wanting

[echo pine]

Can somebody recommend a way to this magic to compact my session more often? The compaction config settings are confusing AF to me.

[short dagger]

What local model are you using?

[prime spindle]

Ok. 2 solutions.
1 - Change DNS (that's actually a quick one but doesn't last more than a couple of days)
2 - Ask your agent to clean sessions, close dashboard from your side (if open) and go to your terminal:

• openclaw gateway stop
• mv /root/.openclaw/identity/device-auth.json /root/.openclaw/identity/device-auth.json.bak
• mv /root/.openclaw/identity/device.json /root/.openclaw/identity/device.json.bak
• openclaw gateway start

[restive iron]

hey guys, does anyone use openclaw with discord? and multi agents?

[south cloud]

Testing input, i'm a dummy and have problems uploading a small file

[steep rampart]

Any1 who has experience implementing Openclaw into a discord server? Mine won’t respond in the server but will in dm

[restive iron]

have the same prob, but only with multi agents

[steep rampart]

Exactly i wanne run my sub agents in different channels but I can’t

It keeps breaking on itself and keep having to do doctor fix

[wide sand]

getting everything to work great on discord is a task. I have it all working but its a permission/config nightmare.

[restive iron]

its nearly working here, bot is just responding with reaction.. not with a text

[restive iron]

yeah looks like it

[south cloud]

@short dagger Mistralai/ministral-3-14b-reasoning

[wide sand]

i'm using 4 agents and they all do their own tasks. The word of advice would be not to give any of your agents/bots administrator privileges on discord it will cause you more issues.

[steep rampart]

Got some tips?

[short dagger]

ok i'm gonna try the BF16 version via ollama off huggingface

[untold holly]

Hello everyone, is there anything I need to do for my agent to get access to the browser?

When I ask it to start he browser it says that the browser controll is not running, but the gateway is working properly. Given that I'm running openclaw in an environment without daemon, the gateway is started using openclaw gateway run. What could be causing this issue, how could I fix it?

For some further context, when running browser start, I get the following message:

openclaw browser --browser-profile openclaw start

🦞 OpenClaw 2026.2.12 (f9e444d) — Your messages, your servers, your control.

│
◇  
Error: gateway timeout after 15000ms
Gateway target: ws://127.0.0.1:18788
Source: local loopback
Config: /home/assistant/.openclaw/openclaw.json
Bind: loopback

[waxen lily]

Is the only way to post on X automatically with openclaw via X api? Or can I do it using browser automation as well? How good are they at detecting?

[untold holly]

You should be able to use browser automation

[bitter olive]

How do I enable the bash tool for my agent? I have a CLI skill (x-research) I want my agent to run directly.

[waxen lily]

Wont X detect it as bot automation?

[steep rapids]

Anyone with this problem?

[untold holly]

It might... if you run it with the --no-sandbox flag it is less likely to be detected

[leaden iris]

Can't even setup Operouter minimax/minimax-m2.5 model anymore. Simply not responding/won't do api requests. no errors in logs.

[unborn gulch]

Does anyone know if there is any documentation or guide on how to create skills for OpenClaw?

[orchid wagon]

Error: gateway timeout after 30000ms
When running cron jobs. Where can I change that value?

[short dagger]

Does your OpenClaw read the bootstrap.md, identity.md, etc and go down that path?

using a local model

[cursive jacinth]

Hi, Telegram keeps returning "400 The total length of all messages is too long."

[south cloud]

Yes. It's part of openclaw by default. Before each chat sent to LLM, it reads all the /.openclaw/workspace/.md files and all the /workspace/memory/.md files, summarizes them before sending that summary + any new info to the model. It incluses all skills registered for that agent, as well as all tools that agent can use. By default, openclaw insets a lot of bloat (contextwindow use) before sending to the LLM; whether that be a local LLM or subscription LLM. A lot of tokens are eaten up by default

THere are way to trim that down to bare bones that is covered in the docs

Memory Management docs

It's 1 of the few benefits of running a model locally. I can log from openclaw as well as from LM studio to see what's being sent. I am currently figuring out ways to optimize for token consumption.

[burnt cosmos]

Anyone know how to fix this manual remembering process?

Let’s say remember XYZ…

For this session? Yes. I have it in my context.

For future sessions? Only if we write it to a file together.

Here's the reality:

Scenario	Do I remember?
You say "remember I like dark mode" right now	✅ Yes, this session
You close Telegram and reopen tomorrow	❌ No, unless we wrote it to MEMORY.md
We write it to memory/2026-02-16.md together	✅ Yes, forever (I read that file every session)

The workflow when you say "remember this":

1. You: "Remember I prefer dark mode UIs"
2. Me: Draft the entry → "Preference: Nick prefers dark mode UIs for all tools"
3. Me: Give you copy/paste text for MEMORY.md or today's journal
4. You: Paste it into the file via open -e
5. Now it's permanent — I'll read it every future session

So: I don't automatically persist memories. You and I have to write them down together. That's the rule we established.

Want to test it? Say "remember this" and give me something.

[primal schooner]

I’m thinking about self-hosting an AI model to save costs long-term.
Does anyone have experience with self-hosting (hardware requirements, performance, maintenance)?

Alternatively, what are some affordable API providers right now that aren’t too expensive per request/token?

what is the best modell too use when my ollama/kimi2.5 free daily free tokens are out

[sage verge]

Hello, I'm pretty new here, found this server because i encountered a few issues about my AI bot...well it did go well at start answering questions untill it started breaking, it's like it cannot remember anything and just dies whenever I try to let it recall memories, can anyone help with that?

[south cloud]

scroll up. i cover some of that in chats with GordonShock

[south cloud]

If you're running the LLM locally on your machine, scroll up I cover some of that in chats with GordonShock

[naive summit]

is there something weird going on with openrouter? I'm in rate_limit, for a paid model, with the last api request nearly 5 hours ago and a grand total of 193 requests against openrouter today. creadit and toen limit are fine... ok forget that, that's not a rate limit, that's a network issue. great error message...

[south cloud]

And some chats with Booplala

[snow quarry]

Hi OpenClaw community, following up on my earlier message about session resets in my main chat (agent:main:main) that clear chat history and wipe out hours of task setups overnight. The Gateway service repeatedly stops (state Ready, "likely exited immediately") even after multiple restarts, and heartbeats (30m interval) often skip. CLI attempts to access session.reset.idleMinutes or similar settings return "path not found." This is severely impacting productivity as all prior work is lost each morning. Any immediate insights or quick fixes to stabilize the Gateway or prevent resets while awaiting detailed help? Thanks for any assistance!

[primal schooner]

can i host with my 32gb ram thinkkpad or is it too much and when yes wich one

or shoiuld i buy minimax tokens

[gusty hill]

ok folks, i'm sorry to bother you but i'm trying to connect my hailo-ollama with my openclaw installation. I think i have it seeing it because when i run the "openclaw models list" it shows my model. For some odd reason, when i enter "hello" in the chat... it shows the bot thinking and than. no response. Any help is most appreciated - thank you in advance

[south cloud]

You can use system ram and cpu to run models locally but it is slow. If you have a lot of GPU VRAM (EG: >16GB) you can off load to GPU VRAM and get some good performance. There are a few gottchas though. LLM size on disk + contextwindow = required ram

[low patrol]

has anyone tried the minimax 2.5 in their OC setup yet?

[short dagger]

Interesting... I am getting it to chat with me but haven't been it hasn't done anything with those files... using gpt-oss:20b i was able to get it to create a folder but its obviously a dumber model than any other option

[primal schooner]

would u say kimi or minimax is better in the cloud pricly or do u know if i can run one of them with 64 gb v ram?

[south cloud]

If those files are empty, theres no bloat sent to llm

[rose thunder]

anyone know why this api is spitting 404 in while trying to config telegram M, [2/16/2026 3:46 PM]
Hi

, [2/16/2026 3:46 PM]
HTTP 404: not_found_error: model: claude-3-5-sonnet-20240620 (request_id: req_011CYCQJN3JgsoiovgkVhLvx)

[south cloud]

Also, sub-agents dont read those file; only main agent and multi agent setup read them

[short dagger]

the files are stock as of now but i kind of wanted it to read them and ask me those questions for the first launch

[south cloud]

If you have a GPU with 64GB of VRAM, you can run some mid to upper llms locally. As far as using subscription llms, I have no comment

[south cloud]

cool cool. The more characters in those files, the more bloat, more tokens consumed by the LLM (locally or subscription). openclaw docs say approx: 4 tokens per character

[short dagger]

so do you clear out those files?

[south cloud]

I have a couple of lines in MEMORY.md, USER.md & Identity.md. The rest are empty for now. I'll make entries into and delete from them as I need to. I am looking at way to use openclaw with Obsidian Vaults for real long term memory. Writing script to read long term memory from Obsidian vault when needed.

[feral axle]

hello, im having this error that shows in the logs "handler failed: Error: Session file path must be within sessions directory" I have 2 agents, the first agent work fine, the second one is having this problem, im using them on discord

[south cloud]

There are a few different techniques I'm in the middle of, for lack of a better term, architecting for long term memory and to optimize for token consumption

Though it's not simple and takes some searious thought and planning.

[sage verge]

Why cant I start new session in dashboard?

@south cloud And...Im not that good in computer stuff..I feel dizzy reading those and dont really get what I should do 😔

[frail iron]

Hey, anybody knows the commands to change defualt model and fallback model through powershell?

[south cloud]

In the terminal, did you run the command: openclaw gateway dashboard?

If you have the web gui open, you can start a new session by clicking the button or typing /new. /refresh also helps

[sage verge]

No..I mean i actually can't start new session, I did press the button and try /new, it sends out and disappears within a second

[south cloud]

actually, maybe the command is openclaw dashboard. don't recall atm

Are you running an LLM locally?

Forgive me, I got a lot going on with trying to figure this crap out and also help you guys

[sage verge]

Yes, I'm running gpt-oss:20b as my main currently

[south cloud]

oprnclaw gateway restart. openclaw is still sending to the LLM, but your machine has run out of ram, too many tokens and the LLM's COntext Length is full. Need to restart the LLM at very least

[sage verge]

So I just run openclaw gateway restart in powershell?

[south cloud]

you'll probably need to restart the LLM as well. I would Try just restarting openclaw to test, but you'll probably need to resart the LLM as well.

[sage verge]

How to restart it?

[quasi glade]

can we use an open ai llm for free to setup openclaw bot?

[south cloud]

How are you running it? With what tools? ollama, or LM Studio?

[sage verge]

ollama

[south cloud]

I have no clue. probably from the terminal. some like ollama run <modelname> ollama stop <modelname>

Google the ollama cli

[sage verge]

ah..let me try

[south cloud]

scroll up. I have gone over running LLMs locally in chats with GordonShock and others.

[lone verge]

guys, I am getting the hang of this "different agents for different things"

I just set up a Coach agent and told it to help me with openclaw setup

[tall ruin]

guys, those new updates are definitely gonna be good, however, there's so much updates, and new things, how to keep up ?

[sage verge]

@south cloud I checked I have 8GB of dedicated GPU, is that enough? And I cant find a way to restart the model tho

wait what about ram

im confused

[south cloud]

8GB is small for running an LLM locally. It can be done with a small model EG: 2-4GB on disk size and a context window of maybe 20000

[forest plank]

Does anyone know what this means? 400 Item 'rs_0d1b3c38aac48801006993856b6a40819f861edb394c8cffc6' of type 'reasoning' was provided without its required following item.

[sage verge]

I'll set the window to 20000 first i guess

[south cloud]

You'll have to take a DEEP dive into memory management, how tokens are consumed by openclaw and fiure out way to trim down all your .MD files. scroll up where I talk about contextwindow bloat

[sage verge]

That sounds like "You're cooked" in a nicer way to me 😔

[tall ruin]

my openclaw isn't doing things anymore? what's wrong?

[south cloud]

You are if you chose not to really dig into the weeds of LLMs token consumption and openclaw

running models locally is not a set and forget until you can write scripts to handle memory management and token comsuption

[fickle ravine]

Hi everyone! I am new to OpenClaw and i need some help setting up its core *.md files. Is there any good guide or examples how this could be done? I would want my primary agent to always spawn subagents when doing coding tasks and to review the work of subagents before accepting it. In best case scenario have full software development team of subagents (frontend, backend, tester, project manager, architect... and so on).

[sage verge]

I know a little about token consumption at least the very basic concept i think, but I see people saying running local free models are free or smth my head is blowing up now

[buoyant thorn]

I keep getting this error after setting up my server with Anthropic and connecting it to telegram any ideas? HTTP 401: authentication_error: Invalid bearer token (request_id: req_011CY6o2t6nPqNJ1ww56xXPZ)

[south cloud]

Yes running local open source LLMs are free of cost, but not free of knowledge to do so

[void cargo]

llama.cpp should let you upload llms "parts" on both gpu (vram) and cpu (ram)

so you could load bigger models at the cost of slower generation

[south cloud]

to my understanding it does. I use LM Studio GUI and headless server combo. LM Studio uses llama.cpp to run models.

ATM, I use LM Studio and off load all main agent to GPU. I can spin up a headless lm studio and use system ram & CPU for a second model

1 is fast the other is for slower long term use

[atomic belfry]

Anyone want their AI assistant to make purchases for them? Building payment auth for AI agents - need 1 beta tester. Free forever. DM me.

[south cloud]

when 1 agent gets spilt between GPU and system ram/CPU, it really slows down that agent. Better off running a smaller model that take up half of GPU and spinning up another instance for sub-agents to use

[sage verge]

Any small model suggestions for my gpu? 🥺

[void cargo]

Depends, smaller models have a lot of issue with complex tasks and tool usage so it also depends a lot on what you want to do with claw

[south cloud]

LLM size on disk + contextwindow = required ram whether that be GPU ram or system ram

[void cargo]

how much ram do you have?

[south cloud]

16GB right now I can comfortably run a 9GB reasoning model with a context length of 30000

[sage verge]

uh..

[tiny laurel]

Hey, I am trying to setup openclaw on an EC2 instance with AWS Bedrock as a provider. Has anyone gone through the process before? I am not finding useful documentation about it

[south cloud]

And I have figured out memory and token management. Need to write some scripts, openclaw skills, tools and spin up a node proxy as a go between openclaw and LM Studio

[sage verge]

u mean avaliable?

[raven ravine]

guys what's the best skill to control my mac from gateway that runs on vps?

tried peekaboo but it's super slow and not smart

[atomic belfry]

🏪 If you run a business (Square/Stripe): integrate and be the first place AI agents can buy from. I'll set it up for you.

🤖 If you're building an agent that needs to spend money: DM me, let's make it work.

[unkempt sequoia]

Hey folks, im rinning openclaw locally but using openrouter llm. It seems like the agent doesn’t have much access to view logs or run command and is asking me to do that. Is this a provided LLM issue or something wrong with my setup? I did check the config, it has full access

[void cargo]

yes. System ram, not gpu ram though

[sage verge]

15.9gb

wait

no

i blind sorry

[void cargo]

no worries

[sage verge]

my ram is gon explode

😔

[void cargo]

I think the gpt-oss:20b you were using is the best we can load if you have 8gb VRAM and 16GB ram

Don't know if anyone has any better options

[sage verge]

wait no i WASNT blind i actually have the ram

💀 ..

[lone verge]

is there a marketplace for agents yet? for sharing agent workspaces

[unkempt sequoia]

Anyone can help here?

[sage verge]

i do have 8gb vram and 16 gb ram, let me clean up some spaces

Browser.print Tree failed: Tool repo_browser.print_tree not found

whats this error?

it showed up the most

[gusty hill]

Any help is most appreciated - thnx

[sturdy aurora]

u guys have any idea why it says this stuff when i say hi?
The command is a part of the "memory_get" function, which allows users to safely read snippets from MEMORY.md or
memory/*.md files.

Here's how you can break it down:

1. The first argument seems to be the date and time the message was sent, but this is not actually used in this
   command.
2. The only actual arguments are "hello". This suggests that this is a query for the memory_get function, trying to
   find mentions of "hello".

Here's how you could write it as a shell script:

  memory_get path=memory/MEMORY.md lines=0 from=1 query="hello"                                                        

This command tells the memory_get function to search in memory/MEMORY.md, start reading from line 1, and show all the
results that match "hello" (query).

[tiny charm]

Sub Agents not working😭

I’m Fabi’s OpenClaw assistant (“Claw”). The UI/docs mention that I can “spawn sub-agents”, but in my current runtime the sub-agent spawn capability isn’t exposed/available to me as a tool/action. I only have access to basic tools like file read/write/edit and shell exec, so I can’t actually launch separate sub-agent workers—only run tasks inline in the main agent process.

Could you confirm whether sub-agent spawning is supposed to be enabled for this deployment/model, and if so what needs to be configured (permissions/tools/runtime flags) to make the sub-agent spawn function available?

Thanks.

[tall ruin]

guys how can I unleash my openclaw, so it can execute things on my pc ? I'm struggling with this on windows

[obsidian river]

whats the best cloud to run openclaw on

[fluid tinsel]

Why is it so hard to convince the gateway that the context window is not 4096?

[south cloud]

it's default. you should be able to change it in openclaw.json

[sage verge]

Browser.print Tree failed: Tool repo_browser.print_tree not found
what is this error?

[coarse sigil]

I found some workarounds

1. I added this to the browserless docker compose so it shares the same network with OC. Just to simplify things as OC attempts to reach browserless in multiple different ways
   network_mode: "service:openclaw-gateway"

This did resolve the Port in use issue but I got other errors like HTTP 500 and tap not found. I guess they are mostly about the browser tool not maintaining a session. Thus with each operation a new session is spawned and previous ones gets deleted.

2. I simply asked OC to create a new custom skill to use browserless through the REST API.

It's working now, it managed to fetch pages, run functions, scrape data, export screenshots and pdfs and sent them to me. Really cool. I guess that's the beauty about OC.

[sterile brook]

Is there a way to modify the system prompt?

I am experimenting with making changes to the memory (flat file) system, and I have noticed that in addition to AGENTS.md containing a lot of instruction for how memory works, some instruction is baked directly into the system prompt. Because the part in the system prompt directly refers to file structure (i.e. the memory/ folder directly containing *.md files), if I am introducing a more complex memory structure and adjusting AGENTS.md accordingly, then I've got conflicting instructions.

[daring dirge]

Google Colab. Just remember to shut down the gateway when you finish testing it out. Otherwise, I heard cloudfare has a secure, cloud solution.

[south cloud]

not too sure, but I'm guessing that for some reason your agent is grabbing the document object model from a webpage and trying to parse it. webpages data structure (HTML) is a tree data structure

[sage verge]

This is just too frustrating

It runs slow...cant memorize...dies easily

Should I just pay up for cloud services instead of using local

[sage verge]

I totally met the requirements of this...but still way worse than expected

[south cloud]

That's not up to me and is a question you have to ask yourself. How much are you willing to payout every year to use ChatGPT or Grok or the other subscriotion services? After 1 year of spending would that equal a high end gaming pc? If so, then buy the PC and host locally. But you'll also have to learn a lot about LLMs and Openclaw. Do you want click and forget = big $$ or do you want to save money and understand what's going on under the hood.

[sage verge]

Slow learner, I give up🙏 thanks for the help

[versed pilot]

Hey all, question, is this whole openclaw setup and use case supposed to be a relatively straight forward setup process for non code literate people, i've been on setting up for 2 days, got openclaw running on a laptop, got anthropic api running, and now onto telegram connection, still working on that, but yeah what i thought was a pretty self explanatory setup and use case has turned into a lot of circle work many attempts and re reading etc for each step

[warm ravine]

well guys you do not to pay for searches ( do not use brave searchs, self host your own )

[zenith ice]

possible to do using the browser tool

[hardy edge]

How do I fix: ⚠️ Agent failed before reply: Model context window too small (4096 tokens). Minimum is 16000.
Logs: openclaw logs --follow

[outer ocean]

I know you guys probably get a lot of people asking this, but what is the best field i can use my ai to make small money as a side gig? I want something I can run pretty much fully hands off when im at work, any suggestions?

[warm ravine]

u tried searxng ?

i am loving it

works with curl so its faster

https://github.com/besoeasy/open-skills/blob/main/skills/web-search-api/SKILL.md

[keen oar]

guys, how you are solving emails?
I had set up my bot own gmail, however google suspended it in less than a day.
Himalaya is crashing my bot running on Gemini 3 (still using free credits)..
Is there any middle ground?

[unkempt sequoia]

Anyone there who can asnwer this?

[outer ocean]

apparently set up ur own domain (according to my claw)

[dull spruce]

if anyone had an edge, why would they share it here?

It's like those dropshipper bots that say "sign up here and I'll tell you all my secrets to making 10k dropshipping" - If they really made money doing it, would they tell you about it? Nah

not to be a jerk about it, but asking for those ideas is probably not the best use of your time

[sullen aurora]

anyone using gog successfully with linux?

[outer ocean]

I get it, but you never know. people will surprise u

[hardy edge]

How do I fix: ⚠️ Agent failed before reply: Model context window too small (4096 tokens). Minimum is 16000.
Logs: openclaw logs --follow

[unkempt sequoia]

You can update the config json file with the context window

[lunar dust]

how? it told me it couldn't do that

[storm loom]

Guys, I need a solution to read X/Twitter posts or articles without using the API since its $200/month

[limpid trail]

Howdy y'all any news on a repair for this error ?

400 error: Item 'rs_...' of type 'reasoning' was provided without its required following item

For context: I'm using Ggtp5.1-codex model. Today I briefly switched to Gemini-3-pro which was terrible experience, and since then I'm getting this error above.

I also deleted items from my sessions folder.

Only thing that works is /new in my channel but... it doesnt last long, two or 3 new requests and its back.

[loud radish]

i got this error earlier today, there seems to be a lot of bug on this new update. I;m currently having gateway issues

[storm loom]

I hate that streamode in Telegram

[dull spruce]

it seems like switching models taints the bot. Gemini-3-Pro wsa excellent for me, but when I started switching models (because of API rate limits) the bot eventually went crazy

spewing word salads

i had to trash it and start over training it

[dull spruce]

scrape them with scrapfly

https://scrapfly.io/blog/posts/how-to-scrape-twitter

[bleak fjord]

Hmhmhm it seems everytime I enable bindings, openclaw dies, it wont let me execute nothing from default even forcing sandbox off

Any ideas?

[spice juniper]

how come even when I turn off reasoning and thinking, it still responds with the entire thought process it's doing instead of just the end result reply? I'm using a lmstudio to host a local model.

[orchid horizon]

Google suspended my account too, with my backup files in drive! I haven’t been able to get back in. Sounds like I need to find an alternative

My setup was working fine before but since upgrades it’s useless at executing, via discord or locally. Thinking of downgrading, maybe to 2026.2.2 anyone else dealing with this?

[limpid trail]

Okay so, trashing your agent and starting over worked? You mean a fresh install?

Did you salvage anything or do it from complete ground zero?

[unborn heath]

Is anyone running a headless instance and finding issues with CDNs/websites blocking access?

[dull spruce]

When I tried salvaging it... The new bot had me make a tar file of the old bot... things went sour from there, and it started hallucinating. Could have been my model selection causing it.... I'd recommend ground zero.

[slender reef]

What's everyone using as a fallback to opus 4.6 as their main reasoning agent?

[stable anvil]

@drifting nimbus Saw your post on #showcase-old -- Curious how you got such a comprehensive Gateway dashboard. Is that a available plugin? Or did you and your agent build it from scratch?

[loud radish]

essentially the best but expensive model, keep it on the top shelf unless you need it

[reef blade]

I have been battling to get OC to reply to emails. I set up a service account in Google and re-OAuth more than I can count. I've been using Claude chat to help walk through all the bugs but something is still a miss.

We stopped the heartbeat and also tried setting up a Pub/sub

Does anyone have a suggestion on how to get this resolved?

I'm currently sending emails to have it reply back but it still won't work.

[left arch]

how do i get my claw bot to let me upload attatchments

[zealous ingot]

Kia ora! Kiwi here, new to the OpenClaw team, been building a few agents with ursor and running scanners for a number of projects. Aiming to setup some old mac book pro's with OC for starters, look to spend time building a personal assistant frist and getting a feel for the model, any tips and tricks for a newbie

[candid socket]

it should already let you do that no? whats the error

[wanton blade]

Hi guys. So I have been trying to put together an ai agent coding group on a vps that I could task to collab with each other, do research, review existing code and compile all into project documentation, then pass this to engineering to complete and then do testing of it. Ive wasted 4 days and millions of tokens trying to get claude to make it work, I then installed an existing project which is just crazy difficult.

Does someone have an existing project that they use which I can setup. My ideas was to have discord server, set channel for brainstorming and agent(s) would discuss and research, then write project documentation on vps using cheap model like haiku. Then pass documenation to another model in another channel for engineering (sonnet) and work on building the code for whatever the project is. Then when finished, send to Quality control to be tested and then release

[fervent topaz]

what hooks are pretty much required? im in the install and on the 4 default options, are any of them necessary?

[dull spruce]

why so complicated? Would it make sense to start with simple setups and then complicate it?

also better models write better code.... cheap models are cheap because they are inferior to their successors.

[wanton blade]

Well I started working on it because I thought it would be easy and claude said it would be easy. 4 days later finding it wasnt easy. At this point I'm ready to find their datacenters with a few matches

[storm loom]

Gemini is the worst model for your bot and I love Google

Unless its a sub-agent doing low level tasks-stay away

[dull spruce]

naw, newer gemini has done well by me

seems like the api limits are so low now that by the time you get something cool going you hit the wall

[dull spruce]

there are also worse models... I tried Deepseek and what an abortion that was

[storm loom]

Opus 4.6 is the best I've used but its $5/million 💀

An average day is 40 million tokens with my current setup

[wanton blade]

rip savings

[dull spruce]

Nvidia said no new video cards until 2028... sorry gamers

[storm loom]

Yeah, thank God for Minimax M2.5

[dull spruce]

all your ram and gpus belong to datacenters

[storm loom]

Listen to Jensen

[wanton blade]

Some guy decided to diy build his own ram

[storm loom]

Since AI is taking all our jobs it got me thinking. We could use plebs to power datacenters just like in the Matrix

[dull spruce]

hired taiwan semiconductor to crank out the dies for the chips?

[dull spruce]

we'll need people to dust

[wanton blade]

I think he pulled from donors, then soldered to pcb theres a few aritcles out on it

[dull spruce]

ah that makes sense

[wanton blade]

start investing in emf generators for unions to resist lol

[dull spruce]

so much engineering goes into those circuit paths... some traces are longer for a reason.

[storm loom]

I need to buy more NVIDIA stonks

[dull spruce]

EMP

[dull spruce]

i'd talk about it but it's like one of the rules of the server.

[wanton blade]

🥷

viva la resistance

[onyx moat]

how do i change to medium. im going in circles

400 Unsupported value: 'low' is not supported with the 'gpt-5.2-chat-latest' model. Supported values are: 'medium'.

[dull spruce]

my daughter doesn't even know boredom

what's boredom?

[dull spruce]

are you editing jsons manually or using the tools to do it?

[wanton blade]

thats when your child says "Dad Im bored" and you say "Hi bored, I'm dad"

[dull spruce]

A great many things and ideas have stemmed from boredom

[onyx moat]

im on windows... and that message started coming out before it replies on telegram.

[dull spruce]

when you are occupied swiping, you dont think about what dark matter or energy is

[wanton blade]

and children lol

[dull spruce]

i guess AI will do that

[dull spruce]

do you manage openclaw in windows from CLI?

openclaw onboard, rerun through some of hte setup

[onyx moat]

yeah, powershell

[dull spruce]

type openclaw onboard, skip everything except the model selection

but can AI bake cookies?

or do gum surgery?

jobs that move matter have been postponed until we can get robots proficient enough

[onyx moat]

there is no setting for low,medium when config model on onboard

[sick igloo]

hey man if we use the chat completion endpoint from the gateway, are we able to send attachments the agent create too?

[dull spruce]

what problem are you trying to solve? did you hit your limit but want to keep going?

I recommend Pabst Blue Ribbon when that happens

[onyx moat]

chat gpt says to change from 5.2 latest to 5.2 that would be the easiest fix. should i just do that

[wanton blade]

skip straight to ketamine

[onyx moat]

lol........ just open a cold one 🙂

[dull spruce]

yeah i get stuck in selecting models... AI tells me to do this.. then I paste the results, and it's like "oh ya, that's deprecated" try this instead

and I run around in circles spending time I can never get back

not sure what the powershell equiv is, but you can ask OpenAI what models they have

in bash it's something like curl https://api.anthropic.com/v1/models
-H "x-api-key: YOUR_ANTHROPIC_API_KEY"
-H "anthropic-version: 2023-06-01"

ask your AI overlord "What is the best way to use my API key and emulate a request to query what the model names are"

[fickle shale]

is there any reason why agent responses would give me json?

{ "action": "append_to_session_history", "arguments": { "text": "I'm doing well—energetic and ready to help! 💫 How can I assist you today?" } }

[wanton blade]

So any suggestion or doc for getting an agent into discord hosted on vps with its own workspace?

[reef galleon]

Anyone using AntFarm having an issue where all cards end up in the Implement stage and then try to do everything at once (verify, test, etc.) ??

[candid socket]

self configuration is would be abit annoying but you can just tell openclaw to setup an agent and connect him with a discord token and make sure he has his own workspace. it will spawn a new agent who chats with you through discord and has it's own workspace. you may want to look through it's md files to tweak it

another way would be just to add a new channel through openclaw configure and connect the agent yourself by using the configs

[molten crater]

If I installed clawdbot on a vhs can I manuallly go through and connect my google account, my amazon account, etc. Like im trying really hard but there doesnt seem like there is a way that Iknow even though I am a new coder

[candid socket]

for google its relatively simple, just install the gog binary then follow these steps to add the client secret files https://github.com/steipete/gogcli

there is already a inbuilt skill for gog

for amazon wise, i dont think there is a inbuilt skill but you can take a look at skills other people built (smt like https://clawhub.ai/ivangdavila/amazon) or you can even ask openclaw to build you that skill and setup auth methods

[brittle folio]

anyone got "exec empty output" or "shell broken" after latest update?

[west mesa]

Hit a snag with custom ocr tool, OC was spawning the ocr process via node.exe but the spawned process wasn't inheriting the windows firewall rules so it was always blocked, the solution is to run with cmd /c "{baseDir}/resources/ocr.exe" "FULL_PATH_TO_IMAGE"

I am not sure if this is intentional by the developers

[humble prairie]

Does anyone know how i can restore my claw setup after messing with the environment code? tried putting in a new llm model..

[lusty sentinel]

someone please dm me i’ll pay if you can help me setup openclaw

[drifting nimbus]

we have alot of nice people in the Voice chats that like to help out

[wanton blade]

ok so install openclaw to vps and how to interact?

currently ran curl -fsSL https://openclaw.ai/install.sh | bash

[candid socket]

interact with? openclaw? you should watch a setup video, they will teach you how to access the dashboard and interact with the ai models / chats. the installer also guides you step by step

if you are installing it on a vps, pls ensure security is set tight, most vps arent secure by default.

[wanton blade]

link if possible

[candid socket]

sorry to be an ass but you can search up any installation video, you dont need me to help you in finding a video.

https://www.youtube.com/, search openclaw setup.

[blissful pier]

anyone find the main agent responds super slowly if there are any continious cron jobs being run - even if they're assigned to sub agents?

[balmy wolf]

Can openclaw be used to make spreadsheets in Excel, I'm talking smart art, charts, org charts, all that sort of stuff?

[latent hedge]

Anyone been having problems with KimiChat? (Kimi-K2-Turbo) ... when I switch to that... things seem to stop working in communication... the other models from Kimi-Coding seem to work fine?

[small jackal]

i see only 2 models with /models on the github side gpt 5.1 and Grok code fast ..is this normal or is my setup broken ?

[bleak orbit]

Does anyone have a trusted tutorial on how to set openclaw up safely?

[marsh topaz]

yeah pretty much - I can't seem to get it to run a node script right now
okay looks like it is openclaw version specific, try downgrading to Valentine's day's version:
npm install openclaw@2026.2.14
that worked for me btw!

[mental steppe]

hi all - i have accidentally spent $1,000 on the anthropic API (having fun building) and hoping to learn best practices for how to use state of the art models but not run up a major bill. lol. any suggestions? i've instructed my molt to shift to more basic models e.g. sonnet 4.5 with microtasks but still seems way more expensive than I expected. Perhaps a context issue?

[runic lion]

Hello everyone, I am new to bot setup. I have a question why are we buying the virtual machine? why not use docker to run it in a container?

[sweet marsh]

wow - sounds like you are using opus 4.6 haha. its not that much better

[sweet marsh]

easier for sudo permissions and full computer access

[vague willow]

custom skills (~/.openclaw/skills/skill-name/SKILL.md) are not being loaded into the system prompt, anyone know why?

[mental steppe]

Lol. I am but told my agent to shift to other models for less complicated things. I have about 800 million tokens in and 3 million tokens out for the last 7 days... mostly just re-creating a small SaaS app and also using my openclaw as an EA / brainstroming partner. Does this seem normal? i am not an engineer so not sure

[runic lion]

No, we use docker to isolate things from our machine you can think of it as virtual machine. it cannot access your machine data or anything.

[sweet marsh]

yes sorry for clarification i was saying the purpose of the virtual machine is to avoid having to isolate on your computer and face docker limits

[runic lion]

Good, i am trying to run it in container and see if we could do it. why do you have to pay for vps?

[sweet marsh]

i prefer a VPS for simplicity. but your setup should work

[vague willow]

nvm figured it out

[delicate crescent]

how are people keeping the Model costs down??? if i use my openai-codex is $20 per month but i hit rate limits. Pay as you use you can burn at openai & openrouter. Openrouter i found really Slow.

[delicate crescent]

i ran mine on a raspberrPI computer. runs like a chram.

[delicate crescent]

think the AI models spens is the kicker here. not sustanable for me.

[sweet marsh]

ya its tough 🙁

[vague willow]

does anyone know when MEMORY.md is injected into the system prompt and when it's not?

[candid socket]

ye was wondering the same thing, i switched to using GPT-5 nano and GPT-5 mini for day to day stuff and openai codex for for complex stuff, so far its not that bad. although you do notice the drop in quality

[candid socket]

ye wondering the same thing, there are also alts like zeroclaw which seems to be able to run on a toaster

[sullen scroll]

Debug question. My openclaw has been pretty stable but since two days keeps dropping my bot from discord and refers to “token mismatch”. All the cron jobs keep working but my bot disappears from discord.
Openclaw is on VPS
Had codex fix it but isn’t fixed.

Any ideas?

[candid socket]

you can do /context list, judging* by https://docs.openclaw.ai/concepts/system-prompt#system-prompt, seems like MEMORY.md is always injected

[vague willow]

thanks! yeah I did do /context list, but for some reason it is being injected for my main agent but not a custom agent

MEMORY.md: OK | raw 3,587 chars (~897 tok) | injected 0 chars (~0 tok)

[vague willow]

Ahh, my clawdbot figured it out. Apparently there's bootstrapTotalMaxChars=24k characters and my MEMORY.md is getting dropped due to the capping.

[hollow knoll]

Hello 🙂 Is there a sample JSON file for the one-click instance from the hosting provider showing how to enter kimi2.5:cloud from ollama so that it is accepted?

[lost oracle]

Where can I request Fee Juice for devnet-6? I need it on Sepolia (L1) for bridging to devnet-6.

[gaunt pasture]

those using m2.5 on coding plan - are you guys hitting rate limits frequently? requests seem to be rate limited frequently

[upper vine]

I just set up an OpenClaw agent that manages my Twitter, email, and server alerts all from one Telegram chat.
Took me a weekend to get right. Now I'm doing this for others.
If you want your own personal AI agent running 24/7 on your server, DM me.

[patent flint]

hi,
i have on server#1 ollama local
s#2 openclaw on gateway lan
how connect ollama with openclaw?

ollama docs:
https://docs.ollama.com/api/authentication

i don't have any token from ollama, coz i have it locally, but openclaw need that api token ? I cannot figure it.

logs:
Embedded agent failed before reply: Unknown model: hf.co/MaziyarPanahi/gemma-3-12b-it-GGUF:Q4_K_M

[lofty shuttle]

Point openclaw to the ollama API http://localhost:11434 local API does not need an access token. It is in the first part of the Ollama documentation

[dim harbor]

cost of models to run it monthly ?

[upper vine]

around $50 max but may vary

[dim harbor]

not too bad, thats with on demand biling ? what models do you use ?

[ripe shard]

Hi there, when you set up your second openclaw, would you pay for a new subscription (for me is OpenAI) for it? Or you are going to use the existing subscription?

[storm loom]

Guys, I need a skill to transcribe YT videos. Any recommendations?

[storm loom]

Use Minimax 2.5 via OpenRouter. Its only $0.30/million tokens and runs like a mfer

Kimi K2.5 is also a good one but its slightly more expensive

[inner zealot]

Was looking at this, which purpose is to drastically reduce the input tokens needed by splitting up the system prompt. Only include what is needed for the particular question. https://github.com/cyrilliu1974/ClawdMatrix
But how stable would it be installing this, I guess there is a high chance it will break if updating openclaw, or maybe already broken since it was made 1 week ago.

[fiery ice]

hello does anyone know where the skills website is?

[inner zealot]

You mean this? https://clawhub.ai/

[tepid pumice]

Ate there doc about json conf files?

[candid socket]

i just use yt-dl and a local whisper model

the task isnt that complex so you should just ask your openclaw to create the skill using those two

[storm loom]

My bot's getting blocked by YT using yt-dl

[storm loom]

Stability and malware are the biggest risks with any skill

I've even seen skills created by Peter getting flagged

[inner zealot]

Yeah I guess so. I hope openclaw will address the token usage natively at some point. It's really inefficient. If I ask "1+2" it pushes 20000 input tokens to the LLM, which is full system prompt, all memory files, tools etc 😅

[patent flint]

lane task error: lane=main durationMs=95 error="Error: No API key found for provider "anthropic". Auth store: /home/app/.openclaw/agents/main/agent/auth-profiles.json (agentDir: /home/app/.openclaw/agents/main/agent). Configure auth for this agent (openclaw agents add <id>) or copy auth-profiles.json from the main agentDir."

[brave pivot]

I am trying to use software development best-practices to get my openclaw setup to self-develop safely. Essentially - have my entire openclaw setup backed up to github, and only install new skills via PRs validated via CI + tests. Has anyone else got something like this working? I've looked at clawdhub / the skills repo but theres just way too much noise

[plain tapir]

Seen a lot of frustration in here so wanted to share what moved the needle for me and openclaw. Each one of these are specifically what I see people complain or have issues with the most starting out.

Tier your models. Don't run Opus for heartbeats. Use Cheap models as primary for tasks, good model as fallback and for coding + deep reasoning. Use /model to switch mid-chat. This alone cut my costs by 80% or so instead of using Opus for everything.

Add guardrails. Blank slate agents loop and forget. Write SKILL.md files with rules like: no repeating, summarise before compacting, check task list before asking you. The good setups you see online all have heavy custom instructions. They aren't nice to haves, they are a must.

Cron & chat. "Work on this overnight" in a session does absolutely nothing for you. You need isolated cron jobs. You set the cron job and then it will work. Ask it to set up the cron job for working on X, Y, Z and it will help you.

One integration at a time. Don't wire everything up at once like email + socials + slack + whateverDeFak. Each one is its own failure mode. Get one working, then add the next.

Save working configs. Compaction eats context. State files, USER.md, AGENTS.md, etc. Fill them in so your agent stops re-learning everything all the time.

Model choice > everything. If your model can't do structured tool calls, nothing saves you. Claude Sonnet, GPT-5.2, Kimi K2 API work. DeepSeek Reasoner does not (malformed tool calls apparently. Haven't tried it myself). GPT-5.1 Mini is cheap but is pretty much useless for agent work.

I wrote the full version with all the config examples, terminal commands, model comparison table and common issues FAQ here: https://clawfy.xyz/guide-openclaw-tips

There is a great big community of people here. Most are happy to help if you're stuck on something specific. So just ask!

[mortal jolt]

👋 Hey Chaoss! What's up?

[flint ether]

Is there any convenient way to let my bot search through discord server, without adding it here?

[tall ruin]

guys, openclaw isn't executing commands, is there anything specific I should do to give it full access on my windows ?

[charred peak]

i get this in telegram

⚠️ Agent failed before reply: 429 status code (no body).
Logs: openclaw logs --follow

but the logs show nothing, this happened after i added mistral manually to the json config

[hybrid sage]

Thanks for the write-up! Super helpful for me

[plain tapir]

Pleasure brother.

[wanton blade]

Hi guys, so brave API is no longer free has anyone made a solution?

[strange prairie]

If you are talking their search API, I think local SearXNG is a good option.

[wanton blade]

How to config

[strange prairie]

Lots of guides on Sear setups, then just local ip in. Depending on what you are doing you may need to use an embedder model.

[ashen acorn]

How are you guys actually deploying code and databases on sites and dashboards... just let claw run everything in its container and send you output via channel of choice? Or let it control the hardened vm you run it under or have it just send everything to gitlab and you manually or automatically deploy to real production elsewhere? The default setup limits it just chatting...

[wanton blade]

Ai agent in discord living on my vps that I can overwork as a full stack dev

[strange prairie]

Ah then just use Sears api. Only need like 2 cpu threads and maybe 2gb ram. Create a python script(or js or whatever), that can parse the search results, remove some of the table content on pages and feed the text to the llm.

An embedder can help here and make the text fed to the llm more relevant.

[wanton blade]

Is there any how to?

[strange prairie]

No direct guide id wager. But honestly, AI should be able to guide you most of the way these days.

[wanton blade]

First task for clawdbot

Thank you btw I'll update when possible

[strange prairie]

So I dont give my AI direct access to databases. They can only access mirror databases(specifically for my case mongodb). Any write passes through another script to ensure guardrails.

Because LLMs are probability based. The longer they run, the more statistical errors they will create. With current models, they need guardrails otherwise, its just a matter of time before your db schema gets messed up.

[ashen acorn]

Sanity checking script? Or agent checking other agent..

[strange prairie]

Dont use agents where code can work. Or you are introducing a failure point. Ie, sanity checking script. The script should ensure the llm output the right schema, and maybe staying within range values depending what you are doing.

[ashen acorn]

So, manually review all schema changes after push to git repo.. and data the ai processes get checked inside database with strict validation or rejection and alarm if more than trivial rejection rate?

[strange prairie]

Pretty much. Work with the mentality of never trusting the llm. Even massive models get it wrong often enough to mess something up. If you are paying for tokens, you are just throwing cash away if your agent is unable to complete the task with high success rates.

[proven marten]

Hey everyone, whats the best way to setup my claw? I just want it to manage life stuff, nothing too intensive. I've tried Oracle Free tier, but it says its full :/ Is hostinger good enough?

[ripe thistle]

How are you guys managing the subagent workflows ? I'm trying the orchestrator subagent that spawns workers... but if they stall or report false positives, it becomes a bunch of wasted tokens.

I'm using Kimi K2.5

[mild anvil]

Hi Guys,

I have seemingly - through trial and tribulation and quite a few hours of bug fixing and then cleaning - got my Bot (Rusty) delivering default through Kimi2.5 via API (as low token burn through general chat) and then I have connected him up to run Programming through Codex using my company ChatGPT subscription via OAuth. Brave browser via API. Clean memory, soul, user set up with pruning.

It's built me an impressive CRM system over lets say 3 hours - it's absolutely mind boggling and I keep adding to it.

My problem here is - I do not know what I'm burning through via my subscription allowance via Codex. It all seems too good to be true, can I speak to anyone here, does anyone have any thoughts?

[gilded hare]

Does /bash work for anyone here? Like "/bash ls" ? I get an orphaned approval request

[mild anvil]

are you on Mac?

[gilded hare]

no, ubuntu server vm

[dull spruce]

can you look at your api console ?

why would you use bash commands through your bot tho

just ssh in

[gilded hare]

Even Pete uses it. check his recent tweets with screen shots

[mild anvil]

Where can I find that? I am an Admin

[dull spruce]

platform.openai.com/login

[dull spruce]

Pete has unlimited and free tokens

[mild anvil]

Also another question I made a gmail account for certain gmail required sign ups like Kimi - just went to check in on Moonshot Dashboard to check token usage there and my gmail is apparently banned. So I have appealed it. This is not a bot Gmail. It's just one I set up...chances of appeal?

[dull spruce]

he's on the "I sold out to OpenAI" plan... we don't get that tier

[celest dragon]

Hi hi, how do i change my model? im using ollama locally on a mac mini m2 and i get this error:

[openclaw] ⚠️ Agent failed before reply: Model context window too small (4096 tokens). Minimum is 16000.
Logs: openclaw logs --follow

-- but i thought i changed the model to a 16gb one

@m2mini clawd % ollama list
NAME                           ID              SIZE      MODIFIED          
qwen-agent-16k:latest          d65bf70e1485    9.0 GB    4 minutes ago        
qwen2.5:14b-instruct-q4_K_M    7cdf5a0187d5    9.0 GB    About an hour ago  

[dull spruce]

models:

• name: "your-model-name"
  provider: "openai" # or anthropic/ollama
  context_window: 4096 <-- Change this to 16384 (or higher)

[mild anvil]

says 0 usage?

billing my company has just got 2 users we pay yearly for ChatGPT pro.

I connected Openclaw via OAUTH

[dull spruce]

i dont use them... but is there a link that shows all the models with the rate limits? each model probably has its own line item

[mild anvil]

to CODEX CLI

im not using via API

so dont think it would show

[dull spruce]

oh

[mild anvil]

I think this is a godlike structure I am using????????????????????????? I can literally just code forever?????????? LOL

[rapid sonnet]

Burning too much $ using antropic api sonnet-4-5

Whats the latest on using Antigravity? is that still the best apporach for getting cheap Opus and Sonnet?

[mild anvil]

apparently antigrav is banning

[rapid sonnet]

damn... any other suggestions for something more budget friendly?

[mild anvil]

So my set up is ChatGPT pro subscription comes with Codex 5.3 bundled in (20$ spend a month)

I use ChatGPT pro for general work also so I need it.

I just got my MacMini on Sunday and what I have done is my default LLM is Kimi2.5 by Moonshot (I would budget say 10$ spend a month). Very nice I think and CHEAP token burn.

I have then set up Codex 5.3 to manage any programming related tasks through Codex CLI connected via OAuth.

Brave API for web browsing built in (free) for 2000 searches a month I believe (but I always get my bot to validate an internet search before it does).

Telegram API obviously connected too.

Look - this is all working perfectly now as of last night. I fed it an ultimate guide to build a CRM software and I woke up and it's here and functional. What I can't tell you is - where is the limit, I am new to this? This all seems too good to be true to me.

So all in all 30$ a month for a truly robust model at the moment and will only get cheaper.

[dull spruce]

there has to be some catch

otherwise we'd all do it

[mild anvil]

Well people are doing it.

[dull spruce]

Did you omit your company's pro plan cost?

or is that the 30 bucks

[mild anvil]

No that 30$ a month is for the Pro ChatGPT / Codex subscription plus Kimi2.5

I could probably use ChatGPT also for messaging but dont want to overload my usage (again thats what I am trying to figure out).

[mild anvil]

This is what I am trying to figure out! haha

[dull spruce]

I'll have to look into that

paying for tokens blows chunks

[mild anvil]

Add me and I can help troubleshoot if you run into any issues if you need

or just post here

[mild anvil]

I get my bot to really prune and keep its memory clean so like every week it reduced token usage by 70% (it says).

for Kimi that is

[rapid sonnet]

Is oAuth with ChatGPT against TOS? I think its against Claude and Antigrav TOS so people r getting banned

[mild anvil]

That's the thing. It is not with OpenAI. It is with Claude and Google.

Also - Pete just went over. I highly doubt OpenAI is going to start banning Claw users now!

Get in while you can!

"OpenAI Codex supports OAuth authentication for secure access, especially when using it with a ChatGPT Plus, Pro, Business, Edu, or Enterprise subscription. You can authenticate either via ChatGPT OAuth or an API key, depending on your use case."

[pseudo heath]

does openclaw not stream tool calls with messages at the same time?

I made it do agentic coding on its on skills and it spit out a bunch of messages AFTER it actually does the tool call on discord

the TUI actually streams properly so this is a discord channel thing

[lean arrow]

Hey guys, I've a problem when trying to run the powershell install command that goes:

iex : File C:\Program Files\nodejs\npm.ps1 cannot be loaded because running scripts is disabled on this system. For
more information, see about_Execution_Policies at https:/go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=135170.
At line:1 char:45

• iwr -useb https://openclaw.ai/install.ps1 | iex

•                                         ~~~
  

  • CategoryInfo : SecurityError: (:) [Invoke-Expression], PSSecurityException
  • FullyQualifiedErrorId : UnauthorizedAccess,Microsoft.PowerShell.Commands.InvokeExpressionCommand
    PS C:\Users\Fi4zie> bypass
    bypass : The term 'bypass' is not recognized as the name of a cmdlet, function, script file, or operable program.
    Check the spelling of the name, or if a path was included, verify that the path is correct and try again.
    At line:1 char:1
• bypass

•   + CategoryInfo          : ObjectNotFound: (bypass:String) [], ParentContainsErrorRecordException
    + FullyQualifiedErrorId : CommandNotFoundException

I don't know how to fix it, this is my first time trying to use openclaw

[burnt cobalt]

Hi everyone, how’s it going?

I’m currently testing the tool using the Brave API, but I’ve run into some limitations regarding the number of queries and overall performance (it feels a bit slow).

Does anyone have suggestions for alternatives? Is there any option that allows the agent to access web search for free

[flint ether]

what is wrong with "noauto" bot in the Help channel?

[storm loom]

Tavily

Guys, what are you using to read X/Twitter posts?

There's so much sauce on X. I can use it to train my bot

[vital rock]

Am I the only one getting the "400 Item....of type 'reasoning' was provided without its required following item". Error?

[keen osprey]

How many queries are you running? Also do you need web search for all of them? I've switched to the browser for a lot of tasks, since I already know the site I want it to read

[silk sentinel]

Just started the TUI and after sending my name i get this error: HTTP 400: Item 'rs_0e66a5e49fb5d7d00069946b3a7b9481a2ff5504ae38c' of type 'reasoning' was provided without its
required following item.

[rapid sonnet]

do you think I can use my ChatGPT plus subscription? Or is that not enough and I should move to Pro?

[candid socket]

dont think plus is enough ngl. you will probably go through it in a week. not sure whats the usage like in Pro but i do see the business having unlimited messages with gpt-5

[candid socket]

nvm just saw that Pro offers:

Unlimited messages and uploads
Send unlimited prompts, upload as many files as you need, and keep your workflow running at full speed.

[stoic vault]

I wish fewer people were using OpenAI full stop. Such a terrible company all the way through. I am sure some nice people work there too, but as an org - what an evil disaster. Doesn't matter that some of their models are best at certain things.

[keen osprey]

What are they the best at at this point?

[slender reef]

Does anyone notice that when you switch your openclaw from opus to anything else, it becomes stupid af?

[plush tide]

Poaching the smartest people.

[keen osprey]

Lol

Given their current business model I think they're crashing and burning pretty hard

[silk sentinel]

Hi guys quick question again: When posting questions through the TUI I get this repsonse:
run error: 400 Item 'rs_0238dc48947c03e40069947984fb048193a0cf5128bda' of
type 'reasoning' was provided without its required following item.

[plush tide]

That's actually not possible anymore at this point. They are well into the spheres of sovereign risk and national security strategy so just not going to happen whatever the short sellers would like you to believe

[keen osprey]

Sorry I don't mean go bankrupt, "crash and burn" meaning they're speed running enshittification of their products

[upper vine]

Whatever model you require we also use api keys of gemini, anthropic or claude

[dull spruce]

I need to tell my therapist that my AI tech makes me feel dumb.

[plush tide]

Yeah - I hear a lot of chatter about that too but I tend to agree with Peter on this - why do that and send folks to your competitors? It's hard enough to make the models smarter and less prone to hallucination.

The business logic just doesn't stack up in such a competitive space with low barriers to switching inference sources. And the data doesn't back it either, even with the cheeky benchmaxxing we know goes on. Those new AI vids coming out each month prove we are heading one way only - to some super powerful shit

[sleek whale]

Known issue I believe. Switch to a non-reasoning model for the time being.

[plush tide]

You sound like one of the smart ones in the room. AI has given me all sorts of super powers to dream things and do things I've waited 30 years to pull off but never could. I'm just waiting for these tools to go the next step and actually read legal docs and draft them as well as I do. I'm enjoying the last days while I still have an edge. 😂

[dull spruce]

what are the issues with attorney/client priv? Do you compromise that by uploading contracts, etc to public LLMs?

[keen osprey]

Oh you're actually a lawyer? I work in legal tech

[dull spruce]

Does Lexis Nexis, or whatever the flavor of the year is for law... have secure LLMs you can use to protect attorney client priv?

my future ex sister in law is an attorney and said lexis nexis isn't it anymore.

[plush tide]

Legal privilege is a tricky one but not so tricky and I think the courts will rule on it soon. I mean, think about where firms store their docs today - every single one of those cloud providers, SaaS and email have pretty broad visibility into the docs and correspondence. Docusign? Are we for real?

I've actively weaned the firm off SaaS tools and gone self-hosted on our own tin because it's frankly ridiculous how exposed firms are already today. Email is my final boss and it will probably break me tbh.

[keen osprey]

Self hosting email is never worth the pain

[dense pumice]

could someone help me in my dms to help me setup openclaw for free

[dull spruce]

new kids can't manage hardware... pretty easy to stand up a vm cluster with shared storage and just run exchange

[keen osprey]

The hardware isn't the problem lol. It's getting Gmail to like you

[little ibex]

QQ: is openclaw github discussion page closed? https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/discussions returns 404 now? I am trying to go to https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/discussions/15016 and it shows as not found

[plush tide]

Watch for some major M&A in the space. There's all sorts of weird convergence already happening in my industry. Keep in mind one important fact: I can't stop my clients using their own agents to review stuff - there's no privilege protection for them but it's the differnce between $1000/hr versus $20/mth. It's just math. And lots of smaller businesses will wear the risk that the model providers hand over all the chat history in response to a subpoena.

[dull spruce]

1k an hour is your rate? I thought my guy at 500 was expensive

[keen osprey]

Models are pretty bad at legal review still

[dull spruce]

i think it's over for first year research lawyers

[plush tide]

Not my rate - I run a boutique firm but $1K is pretty standard in the US and down here in Oz

[dull spruce]

that's why I hate it when my attorney calls me... guy is a windbag

like oh noes.... there goes another 500

[plush tide]

No offence to your lawyer but if I call unannounced for my own reasons, my clients don't pay for that. It's gotta be related to a client matter, not just waffle.

[dull spruce]

it's usually related to a matter... i just try to make the call as brief as possible. He's been my atty for 30+ years since I got busted with weed as a 19yo.... tells you a little about my age

[plush tide]

Same vintage - don't worry

[dull spruce]

😛

my uncle retired from dentistry.... they had all their own hardare, and a subscription to a local provider for onsite software to essentially do all the work of storing patient records... new dentists bought him out (he was already rich af, can't imagine what it is now) and did this cloud thing and it created a lot of resentment having to manage two systems... I guess they didn't migrate all the data from the old system to the new (probably a scoping/contract issue) and it was a major headache... still is

if you want to keep all your own hardware, why not buy a mac studio with oodles of ram and do Ollama LLMs on it for your law practice?

[plush tide]

I'm already running a few Intel nodes with proxmox. The big boy is a Beelink with TrueNAS running an AI stack on gpu pass-through. It's for fun only until I hook it up to the GPU caddy - beelink designed their own and you can attach external GPUs via pcie.

[past osprey]

Hello. Can someone help me Update my OpenClaw. Its running on docker VPS on Hostinger.

[dense pumice]

Could someone please help me set up openclaw for free cuz im broke and im not understanding the doc

[plush tide]

You can update Openclaw by literally asking it to update itself in the chat. And if that doesn't work, you may want to SSH into the box and run "openclaw update". That's usually it - a script takes over from there.

@past osprey But honestly you should aim to have your agent upgrading itself - set up a cron task to check every day for updates and run the script if an update is found.

[plush tide]

Where are you stuck? The installation command is very simple in the latest versions

[dense pumice]

can i show you on a call

[plush tide]

There's nothing to see - it's one command to install. What have you set up so far?

[dense pumice]

i dont get what to do with the links

i mean the commands

[stoic vault]

Codex is supposed to be pretty much the best at code? Or is Opus 4.6 making it irreleveant? Gemini 3 Pro is annoying... but I'll use that any day over anything OpenAI.

[opaque steeple]

Hey everyone, looking for some more suggestions here: my agent consistently fails at what IMO should be trivial automation tasks (e.g. sending telegram messages with both text + TTS audio attached). Currently running qwen3.5:397b, no internet/web access enabled, mostly standard tool setup. I’ve been debugging this for ~4 days and can’t get stable execution, while I see others building full dev-agency-style autonomous setups in 1–2 days purely via speech/text prompting. So I’m trying to understand whether I’m missing a fundamental architectural principle (tool wiring, memory config, etc.?) or whether lack of internet access significantly impacts quality? Long-term goal is to run GPT Codex 5.3 (via OpenAI Pro OAuth, already connected) inside a separate coding agent for cost isolation, but I’m not even close to that because I’m blocked by basic task like this.

[keen osprey]

Codex, Claude code, et. Al are all the same at this point

[keen osprey]

What do you mean lack of Internet access?

[opaque steeple]

like would giving the agent acces to web scraping/browser and tell him to e.g. search for ( SOTA) examples give better results?

[keen osprey]

O I C. What's the actual issue? Is the behavior wrong or?

I've been running qwen-coder-next:80b without network and it's been working fine for a lot of tasks

[opaque steeple]

As I mentioned, IMO easy task like adding tts audio to his telegram replies or setting up a transcription pipeline to be able to handle both local/api transcription he is struggeling with. like initial implementation made it so he now replies with 4 messages and he gets stuck fixing it by trying the same stuff over and over again

or he says he is doing stuff and then ends up not actually doing anything

like i could use chatgpt for that as well xD

[keen osprey]

Yeah. Without network the agent is pretty terrible at configuring openclaw. I've had to configure the openclaw.json manually for everything

[opaque steeple]

Am doing so as well. And since webscrape is using api's which cost money again, i guess using the browser is the best approach? How well does it perform in web research by actually using the browser?

[keen osprey]

Web scrape is free

[young nebula]

Anyone had issues with telegram bloating to 100k tokens and basically you don’t get a response?

[keen osprey]

The browser was super finicky for me, but it works well once I got it working

[opaque steeple]

Huh? I thought you have to setup firecrawl/perplexity? and only firecrawl has like 500 free requests or something?

[keen osprey]

Brave search has a free API. Low rate limit but is more than sufficient if you delegate tasks properly

[opaque steeple]

okay so you are using brave for most tasks?

[keen osprey]

No, I use brave for web search, but for stuff like the news I already know what websites to use so I use the browser for news feeds

[opaque steeple]

so then you would ask the agent to research something using brave? or just "research it" and have him decide on his own wether to use brave or browser? what would be the best way

[keen osprey]

One off "research this" brave works fine for me

[opaque steeple]

like general resaerch -> use brave
where u know where u want to go -> use browser and acces page "x"

[keen osprey]

Yep

[opaque steeple]

Gotcha

TY

[keen osprey]

For research I also have it hooked up to the arxiv RSS feed so it doesn't use web search when looking at new papers that come out

[errant field]

hi everyone, wondering if anyone had this error before after updating? Sub-agent spawning is broken — token mismatch error. Even after auth refresh, it's still failing. This means I can't deploy the team (Raven, Scout, Forge, Blaze) as parallel workers. I'm running everything solo for now
Web search is down — no Brave API key configured. Limits research capability
Memory search is down — no embedding provider API key configured. Can't search my own memory files semantically

[limpid trail]

Heads up everyone, to fix the error that I described here. I did this:

1. downgrade to openclaw@2026.2.14
2. Restart gateway
3. /new in the chat channel.

This resolved my 400 error: item reasoning issue.

@dull spruce

[urban hinge]

How can I set my primary model to Aurora Alpha?

⚠️ Agent failed before reply: Unknown model: openrouter/aurora-alpha.
Logs: openclaw logs --follow

[fast canyon]

Hey, I'm heavily into development, and I'm wondering if there are any good cost-effective models you'd recommend recently?

[torn fjord]

anything local if you have a pc that can handle it, will be completely free

[solid kiln]

What is the best model you can run local for development?

[torn fjord]

I was running qwen2.5-coder14b but had some issues with it executing through openclaw, like saving files. So I am using Ministral3:14b. I have a 16gb VRAM.

[sudden cargo]

confirmed, this fixed the reasoning error for me as well, although i am getting errors that 'the current config was written by a newer version, you are on an older version'. Any insights on the impact of this and if you should reconfig to clear it?

[keen osprey]

qwen3-coder-next:80b is very competent

[solid kiln]

How do you think it compares to claude opus? Close or far off?

[obtuse sundial]

Everything I've used besides Claude, chatgpt seems to suck. Of course maybe some of that is because I'm doing none of it locally

Seems like overwhelmingly the best way to do it is either drop a whole rack on highest tier Claude and hope you don't get banned or run chatgpt codex as your coder and pick your poison on which idiot bot you want to steer the ship (minimax most cost effective and relatively competent, Kimi seems alright as long as it's not the free Nvidia tier that one seems shitty)

[young nebula]

can you send me your minimax m2.5 setup in the config. I thought I had it right but it has never pulled from the money I put into the api so I don’t think it’s working and defaulting to some other model

[cursive path]

what is the beset setup to let my bot search the internet?

[candid socket]

tbh travily + brave search and browser controls has been working pretty well for me at least

[candid socket]

you can actually just ask openclaw to test out that model, i think it will do some smoke test

you can also look at the usage in dashboard and see exactly which models are being used

[limpid trail]

I'm not getting this but Id check to see if the version is mentioned anywhere in the file.

If so manually edit it for now see if it works, back up your file first and save it somewhere just in case

You can also see if openclaw doctor - - fix command helps.

[shell cairn]

should ollama models be able to access the workspace? I keep getting this issue when hooking up to my ollama

I don't have direct access to files in this project. My main role is to assist with message sending, session management, and other tasks as needed. Let me know how I can help!

qwen3:0.6

[candid lava]

you a bot?

[shell cairn]

no haha

[candid lava]

Ollama can run independent. You just configure a models.provider entry in openclaw.json

[shell cairn]

ive got it running locally and its in openclaw

it doesnt even seem to read the workspace tho to pick up all the .md

[candid lava]

Ollama shouldn't access those files, OpenClaw should

[shell cairn]

right, so i feel like im missing some tool set up?

[candid lava]

IIRC Ollama will setup OpenClaw for you if you want, but I just set them up as two independent entities (in two different containers). I will say, even at 32GB, the local models were useless.

[torn fjord]

what model you using?

[shell cairn]

qwen3:0.6

just trying to get a local model going so i can use it for low level stuff

i just assumed it would work the same way as an agent as like codex did, just suprised it isnt picking up any of the local files. seems like i have to feed it everything

[candid lava]

That's because its not a 500GB model...

[torn fjord]

when I was using qwen2-coder-14b it wouldnt work or be able to access any files, would just give me the prompt back, then with qwen3 it could create files but wouldnt read or write, using ministral now and it seems fine

[shell cairn]

ur running ministral local and its working ok?

[torn fjord]

ya, slower than qwen but works

[shell cairn]

@candid lava yeah for sure. i still havent figured out what the best service is for me to subscribe to.

[candid lava]

I think what people fail to recognize is just to get the basics going.. ie reading all the memory and being an agent, takes more than what the local LLM models can do. let alone trying to hold a conversation with you

[shell cairn]

do you think there is good opportunity tho to use local models for some tasks that are spun up and handed off by main agent?

[candid lava]

Nope. I used 24GB models with a large context. I couldn't get any of them to read my calendar events and remember to exclude declined or tentative events

[random elbow]

hi all, am unable to run openclaw with gemini. But it works with minimax models.
here's my frustrating chat with Krill, but it's going in circles
https://discord.com/channels/1456350064065904867/1473351839553425548

[eager flume]

Did someone build a alternative agentig open source interface other than the default gateway for openclaw?

[candid lava]

I'd spend $20 on ChatGPT / Codex and have fun for a week.

It resets every week, so you'll be fine for toying around.

[simple edge]

how can I have an OC agent for telegram ?

[shell cairn]

appreciate the help and suggestions

[candid lava]

I haven't spent the money to try a local model with 128GB for the model + context windows. I know extending the context window from 64k to 96k helped my 24GB model, but I ran out of VRAM. Personally, I don't think it makes sense to build a machine to host four or five 3090s ($700/device used) or buy a Mac Studio with 128GB of RAM for $3700 to test that. I've had to move up to the $200/mo plan with ChatGPT. That seems much better right now until someone else wants to test it. Maybe Ill get bored and spend money at AWS, test 128GB and try to put together a financial model that argues spending the money.

[jaunty birch]

Hello, anyone knows how to fix this issue? run error: 400 Item 'rs_0edc552fedafae22' of type 'reasoning' was provided without its required following item.

I have fresh installet openclaw several time, with the same result, doesnt matter which skills, channel, hooks, etc always same error

[candid lava]

I've wasted my $20/mo plan just arguing with agents on whether they can use cron or not. It appears there's some bug with agents.list[].tools.profile allow and deny that is causing the agents to not use cron which is screwing up my whole idea of a Chief of Staff agent with subordinates :kek:

[shell cairn]

hmmm. tear it all down and start again. i dont think that is a common pitfall

[buoyant bone]

openclaw.ai and clawhub.ai - both sites or any links doesn't open on my browsers. can't see any skills or anything. what could be the issue?

[candid lava]

It's fairly simple. "tools": { "profile": "minimal", "allow": [ "cron" ], "deny": [ "gateway" ] } And it says it cannot use cron

[candid lava]

are you asking us to debug your PC and why you cannot open websites? or is this an openclaw issue

[slate minnow]

Can you see the cron entries in the web ui?

[elfin spindle]

What are the top 3 models everyone recommends to utilize with openclaw? Not having local LLM most likely will be using APIs

[candid lava]

Trying to have the bot create them, it says it cannot

I can’t call the cron tool in this session because it isn’t available in the tools list for this agent—only session_status (plus skills like GitHub, weather, etc.) are exposed.

[slate minnow]

Hmm. I’ve had mixed results. Maybe try another model?

Unless you are already running a decent one.

[candid lava]

OpenAI 5.3, 5.2 ? not sure theres better

[slate minnow]

Yup. Odd

[ionic oasis]

Hi guys I am receiving following error when installing on windows 11 ( iwr -useb https://openclaw.ai/install.ps1 | iex

OpenClaw Installer

[OK] Windows detected
[OK] Node.js v24.13.1 found
[*] Installing OpenClaw (openclaw@latest)...
node.exe : npm error code ENOENT
At line:1 char:1

• & "C:\Program Files\nodejs/node.exe" "C:\Program Files\nodejs/node_mo ...

•   + CategoryInfo          : NotSpecified: (npm error code ENOENT:String) [], RemoteException
    + FullyQualifiedErrorId : NativeCommandError)

[shell cairn]

which specific ministral are you using?

[potent delta]

https://docs.openclaw.ai/tools/chrome-extension#chrome-extension

[obtuse sundial]

I used minimax from their website not openrouter. I paid for the starter plan and used oauth from the onboard wizard.

(and it sucks anyway)

All the other llms just went around breaking shit and forgetting everything or remembering just enough to break something

[potent delta]

cmd shift g and enter the folder location

[torn fjord]

ministral3:14b

[candid lava]

Changed the profile to full and got rid of everything and it works fine. Guess I'll start from there and see where I can go.

[slate minnow]

great news!

[versed shuttle]

I am using OpenClaw with:
• Provider: google-antigravity
• Model: gemini-3-flash

However, I continuously receive HTTP 429 responses.

Could you help me understand why this is happening and how to resolve it?

[abstract merlin]

Any help would be amazing. I updated to the most recent version and now my sessions keep reseting constantly. I can maybe do 4 or 5 back and fourths until it resets the session any advice?

[candid lava]

Exceeding API limits: The most common cause when using an API that has a set number of requests allowed per minute/hour/day.

[versed shuttle]

Additionally, Antigravity Sonnet 4.5 is working normally and returns responses without any issues.

[candid lava]

iirc arent limits per model with antigravity?

[slate minnow]

Does anybody have a good method for pulling down say ‘top trending tech tweets’

[versed shuttle]

I am currently subscribed to Google One AI Pro, and I have not reached any daily usage limits. ㅜ,ㅜ

[candid lava]

you have 5 hour limits as well

[versed shuttle]

When using Gemini CLI, both Gemini 3 Pro and Gemini 3 Flash are returning HTTP 429 errors.

run error: Cloud Code Assist API error (403): Verify your account to continue.

This is the exact error message.

[candid lava]

maybe this will help https://www.answeroverflow.com/m/1470343139020640357

@slate minnow ok so 'minimal' with 'allow' doesn't work, but 'full' with 'deny' seems to be working now. no f'ing idea why. at least its something

Also, you cannot use a skill that needs to exec if the agent is denied exec, which sucks, but I get it.

[slate minnow]

Yes. It’s far from this perfect picture which some YouTubers paint it as.

[fresh sun]

I just give my agent access to the browser and it works fine

[fickle eagle]

Where can you check limits for antigravity

[slate minnow]

Hmm. I’ve tried the brave browser and chromium tab. I don’t have any gui on my setup. Is yours similar?

[vestal pilot]

any reason krill is not responding to either of my help tickets/?? plz guys 😭

nevermind, only took it 15 min to start typing lol. any reason that would be?

[candid socket]

you arent the only one asking for help dud

its already providing free automated help, just chill and wait for a response

[vestal pilot]

?? obviously, but yesterday i was getting sub 2min response time and now im getting 10+? is the hourly change in users that much?

[fresh sun]

I have my agent running on an AWS server. Installed Chromium there and access it through VNC when needed. If you need help dm me!

[candid socket]

so? its free, are you paying for it? there is peak hours and non peak hours bud

dont act so entitled

[slate minnow]

Thanks man.

[vestal pilot]

? who shit in your cereal lol. what part of me asking a question makes me entitled exactly? is trying to inform oneself frowned upon now?

[candid socket]

there is nothing wrong with informing yourself, but like asking about how a free service is taking longer than expected especially when many others are using it, doesn't make sense

[versed shuttle]

https://github.com/steipete/CodexBar

hear

[candid lava]

Yesterday was a holiday in the US and more people probably were offline. Today they're bored at work toying with OpenClaw

[fickle eagle]

Thanks

[vestal pilot]

see? thats a perfect response. no reason you had to come out with the "Entitled" comment. literally makes no sense. honestly makes you sound pretty entitled yourself 😂

[dull spruce]

push away from the keyboard

[mild anvil]

how much is pro a month again, I think even I have plus?

[candid lava]

Plus is $20, Pro is $200. There's quite a gap there...

[mild anvil]

Oh shit I have been using plus...fine at the moment I am so scared of hitting a limit on it though

[mild anvil]

do you use codex?

[candid lava]

Yeah. I burnt through my Plus plan. I'm still screwing around with OpenClaw and don't have it in rhythm yet.

[mild anvil]

oh shit...was you using it for text and coding? I am using Kimi2.5 for text and Codex for coding

Was you really really hammering it or? When does it refresh when you hit limit? This is the thing I am figuring out cos atm it seems too good to be true.

[candid lava]

I'm just trying to setup a Chief of Staff agent, another agent to manage my personal email/calendar and a third agent to manage my work email/calendar and it's failing miserably with permissions and scope between agents. If I was just using one agent it'd probably be ok?

[gilded nexus]

i'm having in issue where my cron jobs arent able to use the skills of the main agent that spun it. anyone encounter this/know a fix?

my main agent can access the skills, but the cron can't. it says "right now I see tools like exec, cron, browser, etc., but nothing like crypto-ta-okx or openhue."

So i switched it from an isolated job to a system event but that just announced it to the main agent, it doesn't actually execute.

[sly heath]

Can someone help me pls I did hatch in gui and then I go to the dashboard ready link, but it shows this site can't be reached?

[mild anvil]

You seem to be overcomplicating - 1 agent could manage between your work/personal no?

[candid lava]

yeah, i'm fighting this shit show now. so first, you can move your skills from .openclaw/workspace/skills/ to just .openclaw/skills/ That will solve the access problem. But you'll then have issues with ENV variables and what not. Just got to that

[candid lava]

Yes, but it's going to be too much context for one agent when I add more to its plate. If all I was doing was watching calendars and emails I'd leave it all comingled.

[mild anvil]

The new issue of getting around token burn / subscription costs - part of me just thinks get an unlimited $200 a month Codex/ChatGPT subscription and hammer the fuck out of it

[candid lava]

Ive been using chatgpt forever.. they finally gave you per project memory. I had to move every single one of my chats.. hundreds. That's essentially what I'm trying to do with OpenClaw from the get-go

[candid lava]

its definitely not unlimited codex.. i went from 100% weekly usage to 87% weekly usage when I upgraded

[mild anvil]

...wow

[sly heath]

Can someone help me pls I did hatch in gui and then I go to the dashboard ready link, but it shows this site can't be reached?

[mild anvil]

Just as an example - I made it build me a CRM system overnight - but like how the fuck do I see the usage? can you help me @candid lava

[candid lava]

you had openclaw do that?

[gilded nexus]

interesting. let me try that. I dont have a folder for skills outside of each session. but its limited to just the skills i added, let's see if it works.

[candid lava]

I had to manually create it.

[candid socket]

copilot has unlimited uses for gpt-5-mini and 1.5k "premium" calls to good models, haiku 4.5 takes 0.3 per call, its pretty decent for most tasks, i switched after hitting codex limits

[mild anvil]

mate - its literally just built it - I cant believe my eyes and now im just asking for features and its putting them in

[candid socket]

i managed to get different agents to handle different scopes, but i had to hand write the mds for each of the agents and also created a shared md using hard link for shared rules

[mild anvil]

Im like this is too good to be true - thats why Im tryna find out my burn rate of my plus subscription

[candid lava]

Ok, if you want to see usage from OpenClaw go to your UI: http://127.0.0.1:18789/usage If you want to see it from codex perspective use https://chatgpt.com/codex/settings/usage

[candid lava]

Its been a bitch for me. My goal is talk to the Chief of Staff (main agent) and have it delegate tasks to its subordinates who will report in. I need them to keep memory and scope, which doesnt really exist with subagents. I keep running into weird session issues and all sorts of micromanagement by the main agent

[mild anvil]

oh wow you're a legend

dont know why this was so hard to find

[candid lava]

idk I use google (which sometimes uses gemini) haha

[mild anvil]

do you have the link to chatgpt usage too - seems like they are different

in terms of showing spend

[rigid narwhal]

PC vs Mac?

[candid socket]

should be https://platform.openai.com/settings/organization/usage

[candid lava]

Nope I cannot find it. It has to be different because ChatGPT Pro comes with "unlimited" GPT-5.2 where as codex is limited.

The URL greg posted is empty for me. Shows no usage in the last 30 days and only a "default project" maybe its for enterprise or something different?

Yeah I am on some Free trial in that interface, where as in ChatGPT I'm a paid customer

[mild anvil]

this is weird...I know for a fact my company uses PLUS subscription - I am an admin of the account - clicked in this link and its telling me we have a free subscription

[candid lava]

it seems to be something related to per API call usage, not chatgpt/codex

[mild anvil]

ah cos im connected via OAuth

[gilded nexus]

did it but the cron is still failing:

"I failed because I don’t actually have access to the two tools your job expects:

crypto-ta-okx (for BTC-USD candles)
openhue (for Hue light control)

In this environment, my available tools are those listed under the functions.* namespace (exec, web_search, cron, etc.), and neither crypto-ta-okx nor openhue is present. Because I couldn’t fetch the candle, I was forced into the skipped_fetch_error path."

RIP T_T

[mild anvil]

The Codex usage page you showed me worked though @candid lava and its not looking good - 1 day of use (hardly using it) 64% remaining on usage limit

[candid lava]

haha yeah ive been screwing around with this for a week now

[mild anvil]

seems like this is API usage only

[rigid narwhal]

has anyone made a Fembot yet?

[candid lava]

@gilded nexus ok so this is the issue ive experienced. My main agent tries to create the crons and manage the other agents (not sub-agents). This resulted in sessions getting lost. Sometimes it tried creating sub-agents under itself or under the other agents. Right now, somehow the other agents cant access my skill settings in the openclaw.json? Idk why. The permissions for agents seems to be borked. ([I posted a help request](#1473374894724223087 message)).

[mild anvil]

could make a fembot wrapper for the hardcore gooners out there - multimillion pound business idea

[young nebula]

Minimax sucks?

[sinful herald]

Often when my bot fails to do something, it gets an error like this:

⚠️ 🛠️ Exec

How can i make it retry when it fails, just like a coding agent would

[dim dragon]

Use a tri-block to handle exceptions.

[gilded nexus]

yes! Let me know if you find a solution. ive been troubleshooting for two days now

[frigid lichen]

Hey y'all! Beyond to-do lists and agents — what are you actually building with OpenClaw?

[past osprey]

It’s not working.

[prime dragon]

Anyone know how to get out of codex cooldown? I topped up credits but still can use the model

[candid socket]

https://docs.openclaw.ai/cli/update#update should work within the docker, but might not be persistent

but for my docker, i made a small script to git pull the repo then rebuild it with a custom dockerfile (which just installs all the binary)

[candid socket]

ye, thought you wanted to see cost. you can also just send openclaw /model status or /status to check i think for usage

[cerulean vale]

Hi
i am getting the below errors any suggestions

auth.profiles.google:default.mode: Invalid input

• auth.profiles.google:default: Unrecognized key: "api_key"
• channels.discord: Unrecognized keys: "botToken", "serverId"

[dim dragon]

Check your bot token and API keys.

[night knoll]

All of you running on a vps,how do you enabled browser access for openclaw? I’ve been using the chrome browser relay but it is too unstable and connection breaks constantly.

[thick iron]

Does anybody know how to solve this? I'm running into this problem over and over again. I've tried basically everything:

gateway connect failed: Error: unauthorized: device token mismatch (rotate/reissue device token)

[cerulean vale]

Can i do that from terminal

[mild anvil]

Yes but not using API

[candid socket]

i think you can take a look at https://docs.openclaw.ai/tools/browser#browser-openclaw-managed, i had to install chromium and setup the "browser" config

[hard tinsel]

hrrrm, anyone know if anthropic stopped nerfing accounts?

[mild anvil]

Anyone know a brilliant way to code 24/7 super minimal cost?

Want to hammer the life out it

Or am I needing to just suck up the monthly pro subscription

[opaque bridge]

Are you asking in relation to using an auth token vs api? I see the official docs have a setup guide for this, but concerned that Anthropic will ban my account for violating their TOS.

Is there any official line or feedback on this?

[candid lava]

Try the nvidia developer kimi2.5. i think its free? or maybe 99c for the first month if you go paid

@stone elm I think I have it mostly working. My only problem is the cron apparently does not get the environment variables from the skills configuration in openclaw.json. Trying to figure out the best way to handle it

[mild anvil]

Apparently runs slow ?

[candid lava]

what do you care? youre sleeping. just configure concurrency

[mild anvil]

That’s true 😂

and not bannable?

[candid lava]

I presume you can send more than one API call at a time. Idk what their limits are on total volume

[misty dock]

Snapshot
Latest gateway handshake information.
Status
Disconnected
Uptime
n/a
Tick Interval
n/a
Last Channels Refresh
n/a
disconnected (1008): unauthorized: device token mismatch (rotate/reissue device token)
Auth failed. Update the token or password in Control UI settings, then click Connect.
Docs: Control UI auth how can i fix this

[nocturne otter]

What do you mean by this? I'm seeing wide-spread complaints about Claude performance agnostic of anything OpenClaw related

Super frustrating though. I'm having issues on my desktop with Claude Code (awful performance) and adjacently with OpenClaw (it constantly ignores everything in its SOUL file)

[mild anvil]

Anyone got a Mac mini m4 pro

[candid lava]

you need to access the UI with the token the setup gave you

[storm wren]

Hello, did anyone tried to connect openclaw with Perplexity for web searches ? Background: I would rather use Perplexity than Brave search for real time information

[cursive jacinth]

Can somebody tell me if Auth should be Yes when running the command openclaw models list":
$ openclaw models list

🦞 OpenClaw 2026.2.15 (3fe22ea) — I'll butter your workflow like a lobster roll: messy, delicious, effective.

Model Input Ctx Local Auth Tags
anthropic/claude-opus-4-6 text+image 195k no no default,configured,alias:opus

[past oxide]

guys I cant get my OpenClaw to take control of my Mac2 and get stuff done on its own, I keep asking it to execute commands itself but it keeps wanting me to paste in CLI commands, how do I get it to elevate its access and take control ?

[gaunt charm]

I had this and in my case I was running WSL on a Windows machine and it turned out I had two gateways running and had to essentially remove them

[candid lava]

did you ask your openclaw agent what it needs to do this?

[past oxide]

yes. it keeps telling me in cant do it , its asking me to setup Git actions or have another agent do it with limited control etc..

[candid lava]

Hm. Gemini says run the doctor --fix and/or restart. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Are you using a great model or something cheap? Try switching to a great model and see if it does better

[past oxide]

restarted, did not run doctor --fix , and using the latest models

[candid lava]

Gemini says. No idea if its right

  "commands": {
    "native": "auto",
    "nativeSkills": "auto"
  },
  "agents": {
    "defaults": {
      "tools": ["exec", "process", "web_search"]
    }
  }
}

[past oxide]

where do I paste this ? new to openclaw 🙂

[candid lava]

its a part of the openclaw.json. You might be able to go through the UI and add it there

[steel tendon]

I have been successful on both on windows on Linux by asking OpenClaw to generate commands needed to give it elevated permissions, pasting those into terminal, and we’re good. I also ask it to run commands in a tmux session so I can watch what it is doing. Also ask it or give a command like shortcut for the tmux session so you can watch the magic.

Windows doesn’t have tmux by the way. It’s been an overall bad experience as well. Should have used WSL for that.

[past oxide]

lets see if that works, I want it to bascailly rip as a markeing manager and just email potential clients 24/7 and check emails responses and "proccess them" without having me intervene

[steel tendon]

Let me know how it goes. Exciting isn’t it!

Also another tip, to not burn through quotas and API keys, you can tell ChatGPT or another web based model what you are trying to have openclaw do, and ask for a prompt. Give that prompt to openclaw.

You can go back and forth with a web based model indefinitely for free until you get a prompt that has exactly what you want. I kept adding updates to my weight loss tracker as I thought of things until I brainstormed with chatgpt. Then Qben made me this: http://172.238.35.173:15555/

[limpid isle]

Bro i keep getting forked process died unexpectedly errors. I swear i'm stupid

[steel tendon]

It’s not you. What model are you using?

[fallow anvil]

Cloud Code Assist API error (400): Request contains an invalid argument. Anyone got any idea?

[limpid isle]

I'm just running the powershell line given on the website

[steel tendon]

Install WSL/Ubuntu on your windows system and install it there. You can always given OpenClaw access to your windows system later. That’s what the docs recommend, and you will have many headaches getting it going. OpenClaw doesn’t work well on Windows. Ask ChatGPT how to set up WSL for your OpenClaw setup.

[rustic hinge]

anyone know why i keep running into this error message:
400 Item 'rs_034fb8dc2d12006994ccb...<some more number after this>' of type 'reasoning' was provided without its required following item.

this started happening after my claude code $100 subscription ended and i started using codex as brain and kimi as fallback

[mild anvil]

Wait just realised I have a ChatGPT Business Subscription which has unlimited messages....why the fuck am I not just using that. Codex will be limited though of course.

ChatGPT Plus and ChatGPT Business are not the same!

[rapid sonnet]

Anyone know why am i seeing these errors in logs when OC is trying to use skills? All of my skills just have SKILL.md and are basically docs only.

20:10:33 error [tools] exec failed: node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1386 throw err; ^ Error: Cannot find module 
'~/.openclaw/workspace/skills/fireflies/index.js' at Function._resolveFilename (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1383:15) at defaultResolveImpl (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1025:19) at resolveForCJSWithHooks (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1030:22) at Function._load (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:1192:37) at TracingChannel.traceSync (node:diagnostics_channel:328:14) at wrapModuleLoad (node:internal/modules/cjs/loader:237:24) at Function.executeUserEntryPoint [as runMain] (node:internal/modules/run_main:171:5) at node:internal/main/run_main_module:36:49 { code: 'MODULE_NOT_FOUND', requireStack: [] } 
Node.js v22.22.0 
Command exited with code 1

Do i need to worry about this?

[dim dragon]

This means that the system cannot find a file for the skill.

[rustic hinge]

how are they different?

[mild anvil]

https://chatgpt.com/pricing

[rapid sonnet]

well it cant find index.js
but why is it even looking for it?
OpenClaw's tool system is trying to register/invoke it as a Node module when it shouldn't. This skill should only be loaded as documentation (SKILL.md), not as an executable tool.

[dim dragon]

Have you tried changing the directory that it searches for?

[rapid sonnet]

No, but the skill works. It just also throws these errors consistently across every skill
are skills meant to be created with index.js now or something?

[sharp star]

Hitting API rate limits constantly on OpenClaw — what's the actual fix?- Primary model: Anthropic Claude Opus 4.6

• Coding agent: Codex CLI

• Web search: Brave

[dim dragon]

That's weird, it should search skill.md by default.

[mild anvil]

what subscription for codex?

[sharp star]

my openai sub is pro sub

but i dont believe my subscription account is linked with dev platform openai account so its

The problem: I'm hitting "API rate limit reached" after almost every prompt or every other prompt. It's essentially unusable. I went with Opus 4.6 as the primary model because the consensus seems to be that it's the best brain for an always-on personal agent. But what's the point if it's rate-limited into oblivion?

[mild anvil]

no idea how youre hitting API limit what are you building.............

OpenAI PRO SUB?! bro link the Codex CLI for coding tasks.

[sharp star]

i didnt even code yet with it. Im hitting the limits with general prompts.
Create me a daily morning brief at 8am. Your task is to provide a concise digest of the top global events and top technology breakthroughs from the last 24 hours

[mild anvil]

you're trolling

[sharp star]

"Open up a random youtube video on local machine"

i am fr

if you dont want to help dont but dont accuse of trolling

[mild anvil]

give me a sec

[sharp star]

running on a mac mini

ive also adjusted the },
"maxConcurrent": 2,
"subagents": {
"maxConcurrent": 2

from 4:8 to 2:2

[mild anvil]

yeh bro something is wrong - also easiest fix is ask your ChatGPT how to connect the ChatGPT CLI Oauth to your existing PRO subscription

you will never have to worry about max usage

[sharp star]

i can do that with Claude aswell to connect it with existing pro subcription?

since my ideal scenario is to have opus 4.6 as my main model

[mild anvil]

Claude may ban - safer with ChatGPT plus you get the codex allowance on top. Bro there is really little difference at end of the day. ChatGPT will catch up on context window , they already have better coder, Openclaw is now working with ChatGPT

will benefit you in the long run

why burn more money when you have ChatGPT PRO

[candid lava]

There's been reports of users who've connected OpenClaw to their Claude Oauth getting shut down. You can try it. The openclaw config tool will setup with your Codex for sure.

[sharp star]

thanks @mild anvil and @candid lava

whats the best way to do this (ive just started with this) have a normal model? or run ChatGPT 5.2 Pro as main model?

[candid lava]

If you want a fixed bill? The "goto" right now is using Codex. You can configure things to run on 5.2, 5.1-codex-mini (1/5th the burn as 5.2).

Its recommended you use the most powerful model for your setup phase. Setup should take quite some time as you teach it what to do.

[mild anvil]

Oh yeh there isnt a CLI for ChatGPT its only Codex right @candid lava

[sharp star]

thank you both you've been a big help

[left lark]

Hi, I'm really at my wit's end. I've installed OpenClaw in an Ubuntu server VM, including the OpenAI Whisper local skill, but it won't work with Telegram voice chat. Can anyone help?

[sharp star]

I just realized that i was not aware at all of CLI Oauth connectivity much better than API token/request at my current stage

[cloud bobcat]

Same.. I am actaully researching it too.

[steel tendon]

It is but reduce heartbeats to q8hr or q12hr. Avoid using OoenClaw as a general chat, troubleshoot mechanism. OpenAI locked me out after 3 days. OpenClaw contexts are huge and they won’t let you hammer their servers that hard from a $20 monthly plan.

[obtuse sundial]

I'm at my wits end I keep getting "connection error." Sent to me over telegram from my bot and that's all it will say for like 10 minutes and then it'll go away and it'll be like nothing happened. No error logs shown. Doesn't matter which model I use. None of the models can "find" the source of the error message. Unable to find a trigger or replicate it it'll just happen out of the blue. Any ideas?

[sharp star]

its a $200 plan (if that makes a difference) but you do make an interesting point - Openclaw contexts - how big would it be for example

If i were to ask my openclaw agent to brief me on the latest news. what would be roughly the context size? what would it include/add on top of the prompt as input?

[steel tendon]

Just saying hello sends your entire OpenClaw context every time. The remote models don’t have memory of who you are with each chat, each heartbeat, each cron. Even a $200/month plan wasn’t intended for this type of usage. If you pay for api key access, you will see what it really costs. I recommend working out details of what you want in a ChatGPT web client, including how to make it as efficient as possible, and after designing the prompt that way, give it to openclaw. This will all probably change once OpenAI hammers out details for OpenClaw users.

[sharp star]

yeah i ran opus for like less than an hour and costed me 9$ for simple back and forth, mainly setup based tasks. And hitting API limits in between as well

[mild anvil]

Can you connect GitHub pro plus with OpenClaw?

[rocky orbit]

Opus is really expensive…

[steel tendon]

Hopefully Anthropic and OpenAI come up with competitive monthly rate plans that have a set amount,. They will probably still have limitations so you don’t do something irresponsible like a heartbeat every 30 seconds, but some predictability would be nice.

[mild anvil]

I’ve been using Kimi 2.5 and been hammering away with requests for 4 days and not hit 5$ spend

[sharp star]

ill have codex as primary model via Oauth and see how it goes with building mission control dashboard

[steel tendon]

The guy on YouTube forget its name that bought two Mac Studios, that’s not going to solve the problem. We don’t even know how many parameters these large language models hosted by anthropic and OpenAI happen to be that’s proprietary secret information but I imagine they’re quite huge so far I’ve only found that GPT 5.3 code X and Claude Op. 4.6 are capable of running this.

[bright lintel]

its an account you are attaching to the bot, like a discord token

[sharp star]

hows your experience with kimi 2.5? does it tend to act more like a chatbot?

[bright lintel]

token

[mild anvil]

It’s great - but it’s all in the way you set up your memory soul user systems within OpenClaw

Kimi has a huge context window but I tell it to reset and save info I need OpenClaw to remember on file

And prompt for that context when needed

[floral lark]

ok so for first imte I am 100% stumped on my bot dying. In short, my main API was rate limited and did not kick over to secondary. I forcecd up in pushing it via .env in docker compose). but still has main API so its rate limited and will not go to back up.... anyone run into this? I feel it should be an ez fix... but here I am -- lol

[paper agate]

out of nowhere i started getting this error"gateway connect failed: Error: unauthorized: device token mismatch (rotate/reissue device token)" and openclaw onboard or openclaw doctor --fix does not help. How can i fix this?

[past osprey]

thank you

[sly heath]

set everything up in my vps it works fine. But it can't control my pc and do basic stuff such as open youtube for me. How can I let it have access?

[wise stratus]

Has anyone had success with the new OPENCLAW_INSTALL_BROWSER parameter from this PR: https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/pull/18449
?

[bitter flicker]

Does the model/author matter much?

[mossy cedar]

hey guys, I have an issue, maybe I am noob but I have to ask, so I have several crons up and running, I saw that during a cron is running the gateway is blocked, is not answaring till that cron is finished. is this by design? there is a cofing that I missed?

[astral lynx]

Has anyone else been having issues with OpenClaw not being able to do browser tasks that well? I have been trying to make it use my CRM but it’s just constantly timing out and not understanding what to do. Anyone have any tips.

[golden wharf]

I'm having trouble setting up Discord for my bot. I have the discord token set as an environment variable and openclaw says discord is setup at onboarding, but I can't add it as a friend in order to DM it.

[meager vessel]

Anyone got sonnet 4.6 working?

[floral lark]

yes its supported in the new version even

no need for "hachy" workaround

[jagged falcon]

I keep getting this weir error how do i reset it ---400 Item 'rs_0fc3919f29f683eb006994b3835308819cb4e599aa1f4343b5' of type 'reasoning' was provided without its required following item.

[meager vessel]

By api or subscribe?

[floral lark]

sub

[meager vessel]

What are The model called? Ny OC cant find it

Getting this:
Session Status: anthropic/claude-sonnet-4-6 failed: Model "anthropic/claude-sonnet-4-6" is not allowed.

[floral lark]

its Opus 4.6 -- not a sonnet model

[meager vessel]

Okey... I am asking for sonnet-4.6 it just dropped today not opus 4.6

[floral lark]

ahhh... have not even looked tbh... so no clue if there... prob same method for inital oopus would work... maybe try that? idk

[meager vessel]

Okey! Right now sonnet 4.6 not supported by openclaw... Have to wait for updrage or someone know How to 😊

[mossy cedar]

guys is not possible to start multiple cron simultenously? it seems I can start only one cron and after that I have to wait till that cron finished in order to start another one. is this a known behavior?

[floral lark]

there aere few video of the method to get opus to work befoer it was officially supported... You can alwys YOLO and try smae method... the strucutre of those files are similar

otherwise... wait I guess

[cloud spindle]

my claw just got prompt injected from a websearch and almost created a doc of my whole server with credentials

[meager vessel]

Got it working by just let openclaw upgrade it to sonnet 4.6 again!

[sharp star]

Concerning. How to avoid that? How did you stop it? What flagged it to you? Also is it true i must change my OC port as a security measure?

[cloud spindle]

ngl i nuked my server, rebuild from pre install, and now installing zeroclaw

[cloud spindle]

i got this weird long message about a summit and it was instructed not to respond back and use reactions with emoji's

some weird stuff i just insta nuked

[sharp star]

Default port or changed?

[river moth]

Damn @cloud spindle 😳

What skills did you have installed? Wonder if you kept logs for anyone else that might have that too.

[signal merlin]

Anyone have issues with their gateway tokens? I get the 401 error every so often and I have to restart the gateway, CLI token call, copy into the interface to get back up and running. 3 times since 2026.2.15 ☹️

[river moth]

Nope not for me try asking it to review logs for any clues good start

[sterile brook]

Anyone have any tips on getting your agent's persona to stick / be durable in a longer session? I am finding that it goes from being as-expected to vary vanilla pretty quickly, and I suspect it's due to compactions.

[undone spade]

I really am struggling to even get open claw to code me a dashboard i can access from anywhere to manage tasks etc? Any pointers would be appreciated... It just seems to want me to do everything in the server myself which kind of negates the whole point of me trying to use it as an autonomous ai but i know it's me! haha

[dull spruce]

https://youtu.be/y27m5gYREGE?si=I1_33Kk1gJ06WEkU

i like that guy, he seems pretty good

might be of value to you

[sharp star]

Whats your primary model

[cloud spindle]

i made a backup i will look into it

[undone spade]

open api 4o but have access to codex for coding purposes if required

it won't do anything autonomously and just keeps trying to guide me to do stuff myself like normal ai so i know i am being thick somewhere. I have installed clawd recipes to enable agents but they don't seem to be easily editable either and i have spent 12 hours banging my head trying to get this to work haha

[undone spade]

thank you i will take a look

[rustic pier]

Has anyone tried using some of the memory plugins on ClawHub? Or a different approach to storage (formal database).

I feel like my workflow is solid now, but I'm worried about long-term reliability.

[lime owl]

New here & posted this in General, but I just noticed this channel, so deleted that post & moved it here... I have several local nodes connected to the gateway & I have set the displayName in node.json, so they have understandable names. The issue I have is that when I am working with the webchat interface, I see Host, agent & session, but it is not clear which node each corresponds to. Is there something that I am missing in the config that would let the modal show the node?

[golden wharf]

Can anyone help please? If I can't add the bot as a friend on discord then I can't DM it on discord to pair with it.

[umbral cobalt]

I'm having weird issue after this update, its cycling through the chat multiple times, Like itll answer and solve the problem, and then edit the text and move it back to the first message, and then slowly cycle it all the way back to the last message, and then move to my next message. If it moves at all, occasionally it just gets stuck cycling the messages for like 5 - 10 min.

[sharp star]

Same experience i had when i tried 4o and 4omini. It instinctively acts like a chatbot even with memory and soul set up properly

[undone spade]

did you have a different experience with different models?

[dull spruce]

i didnt have that issue... is that a setting you have turned on somewhere (friend req)

[golden wharf]

I think I have discord set to require people to be friends to DM me, which means I have to be friends to DM them. I just don't know what that setting is so I can turn it off temporarily.

[rain flare]

why do i keep getting requests that need to be approved on teh webUI ? anyone ahs same issues?

[dull spruce]

your bot is compromised

[dull spruce]

easy question for AI

man you're still reposting that BSV scam nonsense?

[frank sparrow]

Hi all, I was going to go through the process of setting up a local LLM via Ollama, and I was wondering as to what are some recommended LLMs to run locally on (what I'd call) decent hardware? I was thinking of something like GLM 4.7 Flash, but ultimately I don't really know what to look for.

A cursory list of my hardware would be as follows:

AMD Ryzen 9 7945HX ~4268.27 MHz (according to CPU-Z)
32 GB DDR5 SDRAM
Radeon RX 7600M XT w/ 7.98 GB GDDR6

[obtuse sundial]

I love how most of the questions on here (for setting up an assistant-like AI bot) could be resolved by simply asking another ai bot (like chatgpt) lmao

[frank sparrow]

sometimes it's nice to ask the nerds themselves what they recommend ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dull spruce]

pretty soon the world will be without questions

[obtuse sundial]

Chatgpt can you summarize this message "pretty soon the world will be without questions"

Chatgpt can you make it simpler to understand no big words please

[golden wharf]

Ugh I mean I have Discord set to allow anyone to DM me now but I still can't DM the bot because it's not a friend and the Name#1234 on the bot settings page gives me an error when I try to add a friend.

[bitter flicker]

🚨WTH IS API RATE LIMIT🚨 I JUST STARTED.!@%#^

[obtuse sundial]

To give you the sad truth your hardware is not really ai capable for the most part since it's AMD (as is mine)

[frank sparrow]

Do you share a server with it

[obtuse sundial]

You may at best be able to run deepseek R1 maybe

[golden wharf]

no

[obtuse sundial]

I have a 7800 XT and I won't even attempt to host local AI it's kinda shitty

[golden wharf]

Are you serious or is that a joke?

[dull spruce]

it's the limit for your token usage... openclaw caused a demand spike so I think most api providers lowered their ceilings

[golden wharf]

yeah and waiting for a 1h cooldown sucks

[obtuse sundial]

Minimax starter has never given me API limit (everything else has)

Minimax is alright it's functional

Anything besides codex and Claude are ass to be honest

[dull spruce]

hah

[frank sparrow]

Ah, I see. R1 is worth a shot then, I'd say. Thanks for the tip, I'll still play around with some of them to see how they do, and at some point I'll see about securing beefier hardware.

[muted basin]

does it usually take long for openclaw to install?

[obtuse sundial]

No.

[muted basin]

is it ok that im putting openclaw on 8gb of ram?

[obtuse sundial]

Openclaw doesn't use shit for resources

Local AI does

[frank sparrow]

You ought to share a server with it then try to DM it. When making the bot, it should give you a link when going through OAuth2 in the bot-making browser page for Discord.

Just check the bot tag in the big list of "Scopes" and copy the generated URL at the bottom of the page, then paste it into another browser page: it should have you select a server to invite the bot to

[obtuse sundial]

Are you running local AI or using a subscription or API service

[golden wharf]

I think I have mine configured for 2GB

[muted basin]

so aws is ok?

[golden wharf]

checking

[obtuse sundial]

Sure I mean you can literally host Openclaw on a raspberry pi I've seen people host it on just about anything

If you can put an OS on it, it can run Openclaw. (For the most part)

[frank sparrow]

Yeah Openclaw itself is pretty barebones, like Hunter said, you just need resources if you're running the LLM on your own machine.

[obtuse sundial]

It just that most things cannot run local AI and so then you just use a subscription service like minimax

[blazing stratus]

“ API limit reached” Is there a long term solution for this??

[obtuse sundial]

Spend more money

Simple

[blazing stratus]

Can you point me to where to buy more?

[obtuse sundial]

Which API are you using

[blazing stratus]

Bluebubbles

[obtuse sundial]

Brother the fuck is that lol

[blazing stratus]

lol

[obtuse sundial]

I mean are you using Claude, codex, minimax, Kimi, openrouter

[blazing stratus]

Ohhh my bad. Claude (openclaw)

[obtuse sundial]

Buy the highest tier subscription then to get the maximum API limits

[blazing stratus]

That’s the thing, don’t even see an option anywhere

[obtuse sundial]

Go directly to Claude

Sign in

And look around and you will see a place where it shows you your current sub tier and allow you to upgrade

[blazing stratus]

I’ll give it a shot

[golden wharf]

I had to create my own server, but I guess I can just delete it once I have the bot talking to me

[bitter flicker]

It's been 2hrs since and it still keeps blocking me.

[golden wharf]

still waiting on cooldown right now

[frank sparrow]

It's possible that deleting the server may sever that link, so do be prepared to have to go through that process again just in case.

[golden wharf]

openclaw models status --json should have a section with cooldownMs

[golden wharf]

I have it configured to allow DMs from me, but apparently I have to go through a server to get a DM to it so we can pair

but I take your point

then the other fun part is that after I have that setup I have no idea what else to do with this bot

[frank sparrow]

Just compliment them often and use heart emoji, I think they love it when you do that.

[golden wharf]

deleted server and the bot now appears offline but still responds to DM

also it was a smart-ass when I tried to pair because discord is enabled in config and I'm hard-coded in the allowFrom

[frank sparrow]

works for me! 🤪

[golden wharf]

I mean I did tell it to be witty

but it's like, "Uhh... we're talking on discord right now."

[copper crag]

Does anyone in here know how to use git? I need help with combining my code. Jewels the AI Is having some issues with it.

[gloomy pulsar]

I’m I able to use openclaw on a chromebook?

[thick mortar]

I need a whole lot of help with my openclaw. Would be willing to pay someone to help me. Pm me or reply to this to help me

[candid socket]

any specific issue? there is a built in skill for github, just need gh to be downloaded

[candid socket]

ye you should be able to, you can look through https://www.reddit.com/r/openclaw/comments/1qzhwks/is_it_feasible_to_run_openclaw_on_a_chromebook/

[crisp wing]

r/openclaw via Reddit

[normal trench]

Hey guys, quick question. I'm 17, and I wanna start using OpenClaw to optimise my workflow for school and my business. But I also wanna learn more about AI, any advice?

[azure cosmos]

Its actually really good to ask Openclaw this question.

[cunning wing]

Hey, has anyone encountered this, I’m having a problem where when I’m setting up openclaw it says homebrew is not installed but I can open it from terminal-new window on a Mac m4

[fresh cosmos]

if you have claude cli or codex cli installed you can just ask it for the problem for you. i tell it to fix PATH in both interactive and non interactive shells.

here's a random bit of help for everyone: just like people, the agents don't seem to want to use remote debugging. tell your agents to ensure it has access to remote debugging, (you may need to help enable) for whatever platform you are developing in. that will cut the time (and token burn) of it's test / fix cycles dramatically.

[azure cosmos]

Interesting. Can you expand on 'use remote debugging' What does that mean?

[fresh cosmos]

when you are troubleshooting code (old school style) you connect to the (web browser/ virtual machine / node / python interpretter) in debug bug, which lets you step by step through each thread's instruction, inspecting each variable / exception step by step. lets you identify the problem super quick without long debug log /restart cycles. It works even better for the agents.

[azure cosmos]

oh very cool. I need to check that out. thank you

[blazing stratus]

I had this same issue…I had to install homebrew manually on from the web

[cunning wing]

I’ll do that, thanks

[brave trench]

Ive got a reverse proxy error after onboarding. Can anyone help with that. Thanks

[fair trench]

was anyone able to update to the latest openclaw 2026.2.17, for some reason when I use "openclaw update" its saying the latest version is 2026.2.15

oh wait it says unreleased 😭

I guess it'll be dropping soon

does anyone know if we can use sonnet 4.6 yet, I tried it and it broke my openclaw

[azure cosmos]

I normally use npm i -g openclaw@latest
https://docs.openclaw.ai/install/updating

[iron shuttle]

does anyone what gpt model is best for coding? seem I cant use codex bc its not chat completion

[queen oak]

Hello guys, is this normal that i'm using kimi2.5 for making an app that is not that complicated and i have to talk with him 30 prompts and it's still not made and he is trying to make me mockups when it doesnt work?

[azure cosmos]

That sounds like your MD (Soul, Identity, User) files are not setup correctly. Did you use the default ones or did you make changes?

[candid lava]

@stone elm agents other than main using cron is 100% fucked. I have spent all day on this. It's fubared. I can't even begin to deduce the root of the problem until I dig into the code. My recommendation - stick solely to the main agent if you need cron

[gilded tusk]

Its struggling to see the github skill in the workspace folder.. also the .env file variables

[queen oak]

I mean he made changes himself i think after talking for a while, you think its just that problem or using better llm would help too?

[azure cosmos]

Kimi-K2.5 is legit. I've used 300mil+ tokens for many different projects. I'm using it through Openrouter so I'm not sure if something else is going on.

[queen oak]

Ok, then something with his identity as you have said, do you have any idea on how i could with a prompt bring him to work perfectly for me as a coder. I use him through moonshot.ai

I mean in general not only coder

[placid saffron]

Cloud Code Assist API error (400):
{"type":"error","error":{"type":"invalid_request_error","message":"tools.21.custom.input_schema: JSON schema
is invalid. It must match JSON Schema draft 2020-12 (https://json-schema.org/draft/2020-12). Learn more about
tool use at https://docs.claude.com/en/docs/tool-use."},"request_id":"req_vrtx_011CYEpbbMXUMeJo92XYZaVZ"}
connected | error
agent main | session main (Craze) | google-antigravity/claude-opus-4-6-thinking | tokens ?/200k

Anyone know the fix for this?