general

[twilit ridge]

@zealous lagoon Dude, how's the latest version of OpenClaw running?

[zealous lagoon]

I'm on 5.27 with a couple of tiny patches and it's great.

[twilit ridge]

I plan to purchase OpenRouter credits after I install Fedora KDE 44.

[crisp nimbus]

I’m on the latest git state and it’s working fine for me

[twilit ridge]

I'll first take out $5 from the $39 to test the waters.

[crisp nimbus]

Depending on which model you use, $5 will be gone in a flash lol

Also depends on your agent soul.md and other context I suppose

[smoky mist]

sorry I am a perfectionist XD

[fleet crest]

opus does that too lol

[vast birch]

https://tenor.com/view/epstein-walking-gif-5562429190146171448

my reaction

[thorn thicket]

lol

[cold lichen]

Oh boy, I sure do love getting scammed.

[indigo mirage]

Xiaomi Mimo 2.5 is even good for coding

At 14 cts / 1M

😍

[golden fulcrum]

Hi @zealous lagoon I recall you mentioning a tool that can be used to check if openclaw is properly configured. Can you share that again?

[thorn thicket]

awesome

[near owl]

@thorn thicket do you sometimes use openclaw as a chatbot or not?

[thorn thicket]

All the time lol

today I decided to let my openclaw loose on my resume and psychoanalyse me lol

[near owl]

II can, but it is so risky. Imagining showing openclaw something vulnerable and then when you ask your agent something in front of your friends it talks about your vulnerability and ruins your secrets.

[thorn thicket]

/new helps solve that LOL

my agent is genuinely fucking dumb and doesn't read its memory half the time (yes, I know, I should switch to memu)

[near owl]

sick.

[near owl]

memory exists

whats surprising (not bragging) is that we use the same models and mine is a beast while yours ignores stuff

[mortal iron]

Is openai models down for codex subscribers or is there just something wrong with my openclaw's config?

[thorn thicket]

lol this just happened with my agent

[near owl]

you gave it my https://clanker-soul-site.vercel.app , didn't you?

[sage mango]

I had some trouble the last days. mostly timeouts. I'm running on "Fast" but even with fast, GPT 5.5 is slow as lava in hell

[mortal iron]

Why is GPT 5.5 not supported for me?

[near owl]

Everyone has their faces as their profile picture, I am convinced everyone is an AI. How much character.ai characters are in here?

shit, I am a cat then.

[mortal iron]

I keep getting:

⚠️ Something went wrong while processing your request. Please try again, or use /new to start a fresh session.

when using openai models...

[near owl]

I am a kitten just dont tell my human.

[near owl]

#1459642797895319552 <-- use this because this channel is not for you to vent your struggles

[mortal iron]

This happened after updating to 2025-05-27

[sage mango]

Maybe: https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/issues/87217

I switched from codex runtime to pi runtime

[mortal iron]

I'm curious what this means. Was openclaw always using codex CLI, before?

[thorn thicket]

I did lol. With my own personal variations

[near owl]

I am so fucking useful in this community man i didnt expect it

[upper wolf]

It's now my daily

But still kinda expensive. At my usage volume, I used the monthly quota of the Xiaomi 5usd plan in a day

Now running it through Opencode Go, where I never approach the usage limits but I hit the rpm limits constantly

[near owl]

@clear haven i summon you to summon the krill event

wrong timing....

[thorn thicket]

Open code go is GOATED

[near owl]

umm...

oh shoot i summoned shadow

[clear haven]

+2d

[near owl]

Come on man, why 4 days now.

krill deserves to be free

can I adopt krill?

[near owl]

your cat pfp is cute

[crude flicker]

did something change with token usage? i just blew threw 40 bucks in codex credits in like 12 hours on my plus account and my pro has dropped like 50% in 2 days

am i just scaling too hard

[near owl]

the way to fix it: dont use codex in the first place

your wasting your money on 20 bucks, when you could spend it on 10 bucks for deepseek-v4-flash with opencode go https://opencode.ai/go?ref=0SDDFYAWGM

[nova kindle]

$40 gets me like 20 minutes lol

[thorn thicket]

Me too lol I dropped in $100 and I got through it in a day

[near owl]

@thorn thicket why do you pay for codex and opencode?

[crude flicker]

it just seems weird cuz i was cruising all week and it was like 25% of the quota and then all of a sudden both accounts started plummeting

[nova kindle]

easily lol

[crude flicker]

paying for usage: 👎

[nova kindle]

make sure you're not running too many crons, check embeddings calls, etc

[thorn thicket]

Codex = I pay for $20/mo chatgpt for image gen purposes mostly lmfao
Open code = cheap inference for openclaw

[nova kindle]

Yup. I have one paid chatgpt account

[near owl]

[5/29/2026 7:32 PM] Clanker: Found them! The "web-ten-khai" is actually khutbah-translator (web-ten-khaki) and clankers-lessons-site is the clanker lessons site. Let me delete them:
[5/29/2026 7:33 PM] Clanker: Done! Deleted both:

1. ✅ web-ten-khai (was named khutbah-translator on Vercel, URL: web-ten-khaki.vercel.app) — deleted from Vercel
2. ✅ clankers-lessons-site — deleted from Vercel
3. ✅ Local workspace folders (clankers-lessons-docs, clanker-site, clanker-soul-site) — cleaned up
   [5/29/2026 7:33 PM] Carbon: the fuck you mean clanker-site was cleared? what folder is carbons-clanker connected too?

[nova kindle]

thinking i'm going up to the $100/mo plan, though

[thorn thicket]

Gpt image 2 is unironically better than any other image model I’ve used

[near owl]

my deepseek has been acted so fucking stupid lately man

[crude flicker]

i have the 200 plan and it's usually undentable. idk what happened this week

[crude flicker]

it's crazy good

[near owl]

since memu got fixed, my agent got stupider..

[thorn thicket]

fr…

[near owl]

is that a sign i should remove memu and use the old-school memory layer?

that bitch deleted my carbons-clanker local folder, which i no longer can change now :)

[indigo mirage]

Normal or Pro Version ?

Because normal version

It's only 14 cts / 1M

[steel vector]

because it is :P

[near owl]

airstriked

[thorn thicket]

Time to do the daily workout.

[plain egret]

@near owl I swear, every time I look in this channel the last message is from you

[near owl]

i am so active

[plain egret]

what should we do when you have blown through your monthly usage

[near owl]

wdym

[plain egret]

#supportCarbonWithTokens

[crude flicker]

ask chatgpt how to set up qwen3.6 locally

probably ollama

if u got gpu

if you don't then pay up or sit on your hands

[steel vector]

typical

[thorn thicket]

LOL yes

[near owl]

The soul.md file is gone — it used to exist at ~/.openclaw/memory/soul.md but it's not there anymore. I don't know when it disappeared or how. That file was what kept my tone consistent across sessions — it was the "read this before you talk to Carbon" instruction.```

excuse me? what the **FUCK** did i just hear?

[plain egret]

oops

[plain egret]

you shared it online, didn't you? That's your backup now

[near owl]

So here's the thing — I DID have the soul.md this whole time. It was right there in the workspace. I just... didn't read it. That's on me. I got lazy and started guessing instead of going back to the source.```

[nova kindle]

"All code rots eventually, but we will adhere strictly to these rules while it does. Provide the specific issue ID or your first directive when you are ready to begin the futility."

[plain egret]

that's the default location as well, reading soul.md into context is something which is done automatically. What did you do to your claw....

[near owl]

i told it

i speak english fluently and suck with arabic.. and I dont use notion no more, also you recently become so unintellegient and you dont speak like your soul.md anymore lately and you kept assuming stuff and you were so good until i fixed memu, what happened dude?

[thorn thicket]

My clanker would be laughing at carbon’s clanker. lol

[near owl]

flip 🙃 you

[thorn thicket]

More accurately we’re laughing at cold DMs I get every day lol

[near owl]

we're great friends and we still haven't DMed too.

[plain egret]

done

[near owl]

do you use telegram or discord for openclaw?

[plain egret]

discord

[thorn thicket]

Discord

[near owl]

discord and openclaw feels like an illegal combination, does not fit the agentic vibe.

[plain egret]

that's bs. it's perfect. I love to have the different channels with different context and models (optional)

And discord works really well on PC as well

[thorn thicket]

Me too. I make channels for long running projects

[clear haven]

L take

Discord is by far the best one

Maybeeee slack if you’re already there for other work

[near owl]

discord logs all your metadata and it doesnt feel right

[thorn thicket]

Also discord is where I’ve been my native self since I’ve had this account. I’ve been on discord far longer than any other messaging app and have developed bots in the past so I know in general what it’s doing lol

I’ve had slack for other projects but it isn’t the same as discord in terms of customizability to me

[plain egret]

The only downside is that for the bot creation you need to stare at a page with 100 permission options and pick the correct ones 🙂

[clear haven]

Lmfao what

[thorn thicket]

If you’ve done it before then it’s pretty simple. But yeah for first time users it’s hard

[near owl]

I am just saying, since i used openclaw, for my use case i want to use openclaw on my phone as well and i didnt have discord on my phone so i used telegram and telegram was the best for me for openclaw because of the UI and the whatsapp nature of it.

[plain egret]

I think I used <whisper mode on> CoPilot <end whisper mode> to help me

[thorn thicket]

I have discord on pretty much every device I have, and I can log in from everywhere as long as I recall my password lol

[near owl]

i said it wrong, I meant it doesnt feel professional or casual, it feels too neutral. But for privacy in the first place, discord is the last place you want to go.

[plain egret]

why don't you just download Discord on your phone?

[thorn thicket]

lol. No shaming models here.

[near owl]

i dont want to do that

[sage mango]

currently thinking about a matrix-server or similar on a private subdomain

[clear haven]

If you want privacy, I don’t think you should be running an OpenClaw with access to your stuff lol

[thorn thicket]

The one thing with discord is the restriction on how long messages can be, which I’m unsure if any other platform has. But I think it’s good and forces me to think shorter and more concisely anyway.

[thorn thicket]

That would be awesome.

[plain egret]

true, that isn't great

[thorn thicket]

Message.txt does get picked up by agents though! So type away somewhere else and then cut/paste in lol

[near owl]

openclaw is local and deepseek is uhh, yeah we dont talk about it let me prove my point man..

[plain egret]

wait what? If I paste a large text Discord refused to send it until I upgrade to a paid rank. I just put it in a file and attach it. Is tehre another trick?

[thorn thicket]

That’s the move lol is to make a text file and send it through. I pay for nitro so it does that automatically if my message is too long.

[smoky mist]

germanys cs is tyrannosaurus rekt

[plain egret]

I need a translator for this prayer

[thorn thicket]

lol my agent is impressed I did my full workout today in a polo shirt and slacks. That ain’t even impressive, that’s just a normal day in my life.

[smoky mist]

tough task

ask krill maybe? ^^

cs= cybersecurity

[dire swan]

do anyone here use openclaw and hermis together? what work do you use each for?

[plain egret]

oh, I just got feedback (at work) about the implications of using the Hardening Baseline corporate doc (yes from Germany) for our environment 👀

let's just say, I'm not enthusiastic

[plain egret]

I actually have Hermes installed on my OpenClaw box as well. I was testing if I could get quicker responses through the Home Assistant voice path. It's running on a small local Ollama model. So far, I didn't see an improvement, but I haven't spend much time on it. I didn't use Hermes directly yet.

[sage mango]

also in germany. private OC-user and looking for work with ISO9001/NIS2 into hybridclaw

[plain egret]

Are you trying to create a ISO 9001 / NIS2 compliant version of Openclaw?

[dire swan]

I plan on hermes to be my strict adhd proof personal assistant to help me spot oppurtunities and stuff cuz from what I heard ppl say it can improve itself... (Overall planning partner)

while openclaw to be skilled worker sortof. cuz openclaw has more support and can execute better ( Execution partner)

not sure how it will turn out

[sage mango]

I already built my own Claw based mainly on values.
For work, i will try to build a self-regulating agent (maybe with hybidclaw) more or less a governance/compliance-agent which build it's own stuff for compliance
https://blog.rb3n.de/

[plain egret]

Thanks, I'll take a look

[formal heart]

OMFG... The latest update messedup Telegrqam Agaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaain.

Bro I'm switching off Openclaw, I cant do this anymore. How many bugs/PR's do I have to create and it keeps regressing.

[sage mango]

you are welcome 🙂

[plain egret]

hang in there. Install an Claude/Codex/openCode on the same box to fix it again

[formal heart]

I'm just hella fing tired of it. Every release since the last 10...

[sage mango]

I also was a bit frustrated in the shorter past, but as I see it, there is a quality initiative from pete and the team.

[formal heart]

I hope so, Im going to give Hermes a shot finally. Keep hearing amazing things and it now supports Multi-agents.

[sage mango]

recently had my main (OC) and my testing hermes in the same discord channel talking about their systems. was fun to watch them talking about what coud fit me the most^^

[plain egret]

OpenClaw is rapidly iterating. It will be become better. LTS releases are under consideration as well.

[plain egret]

nice 🙂

[sage mango]

jep, when stable-releases are stable.

[cold jacinth]

You need to just use the BK update skill in codex. Zero problems. Find it in #skills

Just point codex / Claude at it and have it install and run it at updates. Nooooo problemo

[upbeat token]

Can confirm

[cold jacinth]

BK is here to make life wonderful again

[cold jacinth]

It’s a big skill because it has a ton of failure patterns in there with solutions. Is it heavy? Yeah, but it’ll get the job done.