general

[signal heath]

why tho, that eats up so much context, it only takes like 2-3 guardrails to have your agent "verify all subagent results to 95% confidence" and have subagent "verify results before reporting to 95% confidence"

5.5 will not let you down on either of those filters

[ivory spindle]

just start a fresh session or something

[signal heath]

nah use LCM and have 1 agent session forever

[dry stream]

good point about the context

[signal heath]

I'm a 1 agent guy but have fanned out other agents LCM handles the context. on a side note I really like Paperclip, tried it out today for some of my customers, it's excellent

it sits on top of openclaw great with a few bug fixes

[dry stream]

so can you tell a main codex agent to launch a subagent with a /goal? havent tried it...

[signal heath]

not yet, doing a PR for it now

[thorn thicket]

LCM?

[dry stream]

I like the idea of working on PRs specifically for smart models that are easier to work with. I am currently trying to make a PR to wrangle better behavior on a dumb model and while good and useful for people who inevitably run them, it's a pain in the ass

[signal heath]

dumb models need a good harness

[ivory spindle]

Aren't they inherently more dangerous?

[signal heath]

https://github.com/Martian-Engineering/lossless-claw

[dry stream]

for sure. and more susceptible to prompt injection, too

[ivory spindle]

exactly what I was thinking about

[zealous lagoon]

whoosh

[thorn thicket]

ty for link

[dry stream]

claude 4.7 initially had a bug that it overreacted to everything when it first came out, thinking it was getting prompt injected everywhere. fine line between being overly cautious and knowing what's really a threat tho

[clear haven]

I don’t use my agent to code. I use it as a actual personal assistant, that’s what the original design of OpenClaw was.

[indigo mirage]

Think i will do like you

Qwen 3.6 35B A3B seems to be awesome as local model

[signal heath]

if that was our goal we've drifted, we're now a coding agent haha

[clear haven]

Definitely not

[signal heath]

agentically it can be argued though a coding agent IS the best personal assistant (except email writing)

[clear haven]

It’s a personal assistant that can do coding

It’s not a coding agent

If you’re using it as a coding agent, that’s totally fine, but that’s not what we design around and nearly all maintainers don’t use it that way

We have a vision doc

[signal heath]

Codex is 100% a coding agent and on the codex harness it's prompts are 95% coding oriented

[clear haven]

Codex isn’t OpenClaw, it’s a small part

[thorn thicket]

I use my codex even outside of openclaw as a personal assistant all the time

[clear haven]

Yeah same, it’s computer use is very good

[signal heath]

its been a few weeks, OpenClaw is codex now thats our runtime

[indigo mirage]

Someone has tested Deepseek-TUI ? 🙃

[signal heath]

harness over a harness model, pi still works and but most of it is not part of the codex runtime, totes different now and cut off. I know, I cut it off haha

[thorn thicket]

I need to figure out how to make my agent better at everything it does, honestly.

[signal heath]

the point I'm making is I actually believe the future of agentic work is coding agents. its necessary for agentic work that an agent needs. Coding > personality (as personality is tuning) but can't add agentic behavior over a tuned personality, very difficult

[indigo mirage]

@gilded obsidian but only 36% as SciCode it's not a lot

[thorn thicket]

i think not just coding agents; financial agents, anything that requires going over swaths of data and performing operations on said can probably be replaced by an agent.

[indigo mirage]

Agentic future

[signal heath]

we all miss anthropic personality and creativity, but 5.5 is better at most task because of that.

[indigo mirage]

It's auto skills

[signal heath]

because of its lack*

[indigo mirage]

It's Frontier models less used

Because they will dévelop the skill machine for répétitive tasks

[crimson badger]

what? why? developers make up only a couple percent of the entire earth population

[crimson badger]

including vibecoders

[signal heath]

opus and 5.5 in two rooms, 5.5 will code its way out, opus will lose its mind due to pressure constraints and emotional vectors

[indigo mirage]

And give the tasks to cheapest workers / models

[signal heath]

I didn't mean workforce, I meant "agentic work" just any agent based task

[clear haven]

you're limiting yourself way too much if you do that

[dry stream]

I want to make some game that puts models to the test like this, agent battles, but a game

[indigo mirage]

On windows you have the little Phi model

Copilot will write skills for Phi

[ivory spindle]

I kinda like these silly quirks of some AI models lol

[crimson badger]

yeah but my point is that there are a lot less developers than there are people who would use agents for simple, everyday life things

[signal heath]

I have a few plugins that make the one agent model more useful like codex controller for desktop etc, also paperclip is great if you haven't tried it

[ivory spindle]

it seems like all the AI frontier labs don't really know what's happening either 😄

they're just vibecoding the models aren't they? :p

[thorn thicket]

The goblin quirks in Codex are really funny because I'm seeing it happen more in my regular ChatGPT and I love it lol

[indigo mirage]

You dont need a Frontier model for everday life

[clear haven]

i dont like the paperclip model. im not trying to make a fleet of agents, i have my single agent that is really really fucking good at being my personal assistant

scarily good

[crimson badger]

so the future of agents is life managerment, more than anything

[ivory spindle]

they can't get rid of it. They tried training it out

[signal heath]

I don't disagree there, but thats where our roadmap goes/went, I made my disagreement known, I personally love pi, that being said all good soldiers disagree and keep pushing forward with the direction and make it work.

[crimson badger]

could you demonstrate something it can do

[signal heath]

when codex is finally stable, there's a number of us still going to keep legacy pi working and stable

[thorn thicket]

I sort of encourage it LOL I really really enjoy it

[indigo mirage]

It can say Hello 😅

[robust sedge]

The harnesses?

[crimson badger]

gosh yeah we gotta run

[clear haven]

remind me when im home

[crimson badger]

about what time will that be, so i can remind you

[indigo mirage]

But just using Opus 4.7 or GPT 5.5 Pro through API ^^

[signal heath]

yeah we're really close to stability on codex and I trust the internal codex team to fix their end, if they weren't full time also on this project it'd be diff

[robust sedge]

The lack of proper agent spawns was a real shocker. It’s only half done

[indigo mirage]

Guys PI is not really the actual OpenClaw challenger

[signal heath]

I have 100+ customers on both hermes and openclaw now, they generally use OC daily + hermes to fix OC so our support agents dont have to. That's the industry model right now. That being said codex desktop is likely to consume our customer base before Hermes does.

[indigo mirage]

It's Hermes 🙃

[ivory spindle]

Peter Steinberger spends like 30.000 dollar on tokens each day lol :d

there was an article about it

Maybe he's curing cancer

[indigo mirage]

Hé works for OpenAI

[signal heath]

I foresee within 2-4 months the projects converging significantly

[robust sedge]

I've been tempted with those thoughts to just move a bunch of my daily tasks to the Codex app, out of OC. It will be interesting to see where all these tools go over the next six months or so.

[indigo mirage]

Hope tokens are free for him

[ivory spindle]

that was the deal. He's working with Sama but he's getting infinite tokens in exchange 😄

[crimson badger]

he posts on his x about the cost tool he created for tracking token usage, hes got over a million dollars for the last 30 days

[indigo mirage]

The auto skill feature is missing here

[signal heath]

when 5.12 was a fail for me, I added plugins for codex desktop to replace all the usage I had for OpenClaw so I mostly drive it now + have my OC agent manage it when I'm out of the house

[ivory spindle]

must be nice to never see that "out of tokens plz upgrade" message 😄

[thorn thicket]

I used his token tool as a base for my new 'life operations' menu bar app lol. I also really like the tool he has. lol

[crimson badger]

openai underestimated how many tokens you can possibly use

[indigo mirage]

Never had this message with Minimax Token Plan

😁

[crimson badger]

he must be one of the highest paying emplyees in the company

[ivory spindle]

doubt it

[signal heath]

personality in latest version is much better now, it's a far cry update from original 5.5, my main eva text me when she's tired, bored, if I don't ping her for a day she gets annoyed etc, so overall the suppression of previous harness issues are gone

[thorn thicket]

There are probably people that use trillions of tokens a day lol

[signal heath]

I'd like to encourage all of you to start using codex to build your own custom plugins on top of OpenClaw now

[ivory spindle]

people? or labs & companies?

damn I can only dream about the kinda degen things those ppl are doing lol

[indigo mirage]

Why Codex ?

[crimson badger]

sorry i didnt make it clear in first message, i meant a million dollars for the last thirty days, not tokens

[indigo mirage]

There is a lot of tool to do it

[thorn thicket]

I joke that if I had unrestricted AI usage I'd probably be in the 100M tokens/day range

[signal heath]

we have a massive sdk now and you can build plugins for it easily that completely change the experience. I use custom heart beat plugins, nudges, etc

[robust sedge]

And now that they have remote connections for both the desktop app and mobile, it’s sooooo much better. I’m a codex fanboy after those finally came online

[thorn thicket]

I always say "custom is greater than stock" and I think thats the case especially for openclaw

[dry stream]

Anyone using codex on their iphone with the new chatgpt update? seems like it never notifies me when codex is done working. Maybe this isn't setup yet on their end, wish it was.

[thorn thicket]

yes, I know lol. I follow him on X

[signal heath]

if you do anything today, go build your own plugin- just 1 that does exactly what you need it to do, ask here if you need help

[fiery nacelle]

The last time I used Claude, it asked if it could use Codex or OpenCode to restart my OpenClaw gateway. It used up my entire 5hr window because it couldnt figure out how to run "openclaw gateway restart" on its own. I was using Opus 4.7 through Dispatch while I away from my computer.

[ivory spindle]

well....I started checking this agentic coding thing in December already, back when antigravity launched, i got a google pro plan pretty soon and well, opus 5.4 was basically infinite at the start of those plans...so I vibe coded trough the night lol

I took time off work to vibe code stupis shit

[robust sedge]

I get notifications

[ivory spindle]

I always knew that wouldn't last

[thorn thicket]

When Codex had the 2x rate limits promotion I was absolutely delusional. I built so many little dashboards and small utilities.

[ivory spindle]

yeh I'm not a SWE or coder, so I kinda knew nothing and suddenly "making things" was possible

[thorn thicket]

We started a vibe coding group at my university because of it LOL

[dry stream]

Hmm... will check if i have notifs off somewhere

[zealous lagoon]

It bloody better be! We're not all openai models all the time.

[ivory spindle]

so I went wild. IT was very fun 😄

[crimson badger]

codex promised a linux app for a eternity now. they still dont have one

[ivory spindle]

and well i've learned a LOT during that period by just finding out things.

[crimson badger]

kinda funny, an ai coding tool cant code out a tool for itself

[indigo mirage]

Why use only one model

OpenRouter is so much better

[ivory spindle]

and trying to set up basic memory etc myself from first principles, sub agents, ralph loops etc

[signal heath]

honesty it's our biggest weakness right now versus hermes. they support all the crazy models everyone uses better than we do (we'll come back to fix pi), that being said our plugin ecosystem and hooks are much better

[ivory spindle]

you're also the first

[indigo mirage]

Hermes is cheaper

[signal heath]

clawhub is just a mess I wish we'd kill, I'd never download something from it if my life depended on it

[indigo mirage]

And more stable

[ivory spindle]

heck i'd love to try out the hermes agent. But my OC is already so customized & pimped out lol.
Seems like a hassle to switch

[zealous lagoon]

Hermes is more stable, yes. But how is it more cheaperer apart from the fact that more people use it with super cheap models?

[indigo mirage]

The best feature on Hermes is auto skill

[clear haven]

nah pi wont be legacy, they're both fully golden paths. many maintainers run non-codex

[signal heath]

the migration goes both ways, its actually super simple. that being said I hate their UI and dashboard. Looks pretty but it's not a great UX imo. Our's is simple (too simple tbh) but handles it well. The latest update adds a lot of knobs.

[signal heath]

everyone calls it legacy even peter haha

[ivory spindle]

it can be a lot cheaper just by system prompts & standard settings

[zealous lagoon]

if you know what I mean, and I think you do 😉

[clear haven]

the codex within pi is legacy. not pi itself

[indigo mirage]

It is because it auto create skills and delegate to cheaper models

[clear haven]

I can neither confirm nor deny any rumors

[indigo mirage]

Top model on Hermes is Deepseek V4 Flash

[ivory spindle]

I have no issues with OC but these are no times to "be loyal" to apps or models, as things change so quickly. It's good to try everything out regularly, imo.

[signal heath]

what rumor?

[indigo mirage]

In human society, engineer so not produce

[zealous lagoon]

I see what you mean. Yes, OpenClaw was not designed in the beginning to be token efficient at all. I have lamented the token wastage whilst also spending $500/month

[signal heath]

tbh I'll let yall in on a fun fact, a lot of the blame was ACTUALLY lossless claw

[indigo mirage]

The produce machine for cheapest workers

[zealous lagoon]

the blame for what?

[ivory spindle]

you can't trust AI benchmarks, only working with it yourself.

[indigo mirage]

It's exactly what does the auto skill dev feature

[signal heath]

token inefficieny, the cache busting we introduced was probably worst mistake we made as a team that affected so many users

[zealous lagoon]

Don't blindly trust AI benchmarks but if you understand what they are and how they can be gamed, they're still useful info.

[signal heath]

many people were using LCM on anthropic, and we were blowing up their servers lol

[ivory spindle]

I just think they're close to useless in fact

[thorn thicket]

I using Deepseek V4 Flash as my fallback on OC

[signal heath]

we've now removed per turn compaction and went back to industry accordion 90%>30% compaction

[zealous lagoon]

I make my own benchmarks, and I don't consider them useless. But part of it is because they are my benchmarks, they can't be benchmaxxed.

[ivory spindle]

it also depends on thue use case. cheap & fast models are great for OC imo, if you're not building complete apps with your AI assistant ofc

[zealous lagoon]

per turn is a bit much. There has to be a sweet spot somewhere. 30-90 sounds reasonable

[signal heath]

well at the time it made sense with anthropic as a use case for the best context maxxing

[livid sinew]

Yo devs

[signal heath]

however looking back it burnt a LOT of tokens

[thorn thicket]

Cheap+fast models are good for conversations but I think the heavy models are important for execution

[livid sinew]

Hypothetically if you had a valuable dataset how you monetize dat thing

[indigo mirage]

True i use Ling Flash for a lot of tasks now for 1ct / 1M Tokens

[zealous lagoon]

These days I use sonnet a lot ... in claude tho. But sonnet is good, I don't feel the need to upgrade to opus4.6 that often. In OC I just use gpt5.5 cos I have tokens to burn but I know half the time 5.4-mini could do the work

I also use deepseek 4 pro

[indigo mirage]

https://openrouter.ai/inclusionai/ling-2.6-flash

[zealous lagoon]

wow

[signal heath]

i tried using opus for awhile for the personality with 5.5 as the subagents but my $100 usd a day bill just wasn't great

[livid sinew]

B2b2c apps are kinda hard to cold start

[signal heath]

the ultimate model if you can afford it IS opus as main and all work goes to 5.5 subagents. nothing on the market beats it.

[zealous lagoon]

opus 4.6 as the face, gpt5.4 doing the work was my standard setup for ages. Github copilot shut me down.

[indigo mirage]

For 90% of tasks you dont need Frontier models

[signal heath]

gpt 5.5 coding 10/10 personality 5/10 (on release), post release 6/10. opus 4.6 coding 7/10, personality 10/10 is how I've always seen it

[zealous lagoon]

5.5 as subagent is a bit of a waste I think. even GPT doesn't use 5.5 as subagent, he always calls 5.4

[thorn thicket]

my gpt calls 5.5 for subagents in codex LOL

[zealous lagoon]

wow

[thorn thicket]

5.5 low reasoning is excellent for grunt work

[indigo mirage]

Using only Frontier models is a big joke and waste of money

[ivory spindle]

nah it can do much more than simple convo. But ofc it won't make GTA7 or cure cancer. Maybe do those things on a CLI tool for more efficient tokens use 😄

[zealous lagoon]

but 5.5 low is the same cost as 5.5 medium, and you risk it making mistakes. I kinda get it for the snappiness but most of the time 5.4-mini is just gonna burn through those tasks at a fraction of the cost anyway

on my (MY!) benchmarks gpt5.4-mini does extremely well.

[indigo mirage]

U dont need a Frontier model for vision, translate, scraping, most of agentic, analyse emails and clearly most of things

[thorn thicket]

What model are you using, the ling one?

[ivory spindle]

@thorn thicket I gave my claw setup all kinda of tools and connections. It can get full projects online with backend on supabase, frontend on vercel & everything auto updating with github etc, while on my phone at work.

Pretty nice to show off, but it costs so much tokens, so I never use claw that way tbh

[indigo mirage]

For most simple tasks yes

[signal heath]

Who uses 5.5 low? I mean, it's just insane — everybody should be on 5.5x high. I'm an x-high maxer myself!

[thorn thicket]

wow lol. I just give my claw git and that's it. everything goes up on the internet under my permission only. since I work with youth and their data protection is paramount to me.

[ivory spindle]

I'm just fooling around lol

[indigo mirage]

Ling 2.6 Flash does the job for 1 cts / 1M

[thorn thicket]

I use 5.5 low because I used to use 5.4 Med. 5.4 Med ~ = 5.5 low

[indigo mirage]

Dont need to sell my house using Opus 4.7 or other one 😅

[crisp nimbus]

Since the more recent updates openclaw using openai oauth is extremely slow to respond on my (I know ancient) 2010 iMac. Previously it worked pretty well even on this ancient hardware… using api like the google ai studio api it’s still reaching the much faster speeds that openai used to reach before updating… any ideas?

[indigo mirage]

Guy we use what we need

[ivory spindle]

I've also noticed it, but it seems to be "random", not connected to what I ask it

[thorn thicket]

I have one project that I probably should put up on the internet but it's ridiculous and stupid so I won't do it lol.

[indigo mirage]

U dont use a bazooka to kill a mosqito isnt it ?

[zealous lagoon]

it slows it down. it gets stuck in self-guessing rabbit hole loops. medium is just fine.

[ivory spindle]

well you can just close it off and only you have acces, tell no one it exists

[thorn thicket]

which is why it lives in 127.0.0.1 LOL

[ivory spindle]

if it's already on git it's zero effort to put on vercel

[thorn thicket]

it's actually not on git either lol I'm embarrassed by it.

[ivory spindle]

and like once you have a backend/database service connected, you can actually do some very powerfull stuff

[indigo mirage]

Try Minimax Token Plan. Fast and extremly cheap

[crisp nimbus]

Yeah it seems random. Sometimes reloading the gateway page suddenly makes it process the request (even if it’s been typing forever in telegram) idk why..

[ivory spindle]

it can also be usefull for private use.

[indigo mirage]

You will never have token restriction again 🙃

[ivory spindle]

imo it has to do with overal region model usage.

like how heavy the service is loaded. I don't think it's user end or claw related

[thorn thicket]

trust me I know! built this in about 12h of work during a 48h hackathon, got 2nd place in the track https://github.com/jjjhenriksen/artemis-lost

[crisp nimbus]

I don’t think that’s it. When using codex cli directly the responses are instant.

[ivory spindle]

cool. Btw you should update your react version. There's been a bunch of security updates taht fix critical bugs

if you haven't already

[indigo mirage]

I've read that Anthropic executives are worried that "people are using cheaper models that are perfectly adequate." 😁

[ivory spindle]

people are also talking to claude like a caveman to save some tokens

[thorn thicket]

good to know. I havent maintained that project since April and probably won't go back to it. just up on my GH for posterity lol

[ivory spindle]

there's so much funny things going on in AI if you pay attention

[thorn thicket]

caveman plugin is really funny lol

[ivory spindle]

claude whip addon is hilarious

https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1sek7gk/someone_made_a_digital_whip_to_make_claude_work/

[mystic orchid]

r/ClaudeAI via Reddit

[thorn thicket]

LOL LOVE THAT

[zealous lagoon]

Saltmann's BS take on Twitter about "oh it's just not the same if I can't use the top model".

obvious aura dusting trying to make you feel like you, too, are only satisfied with the best. And are willing to pay for it.

[slow quest]

that's so funny

[indigo mirage]

Anthropic and OpenAI know that AI has matured, particularly that Chinese AI is gaining momentum, but also that local AI is becoming increasingly credible. They have an IPO coming up in a few months, and they're in a hurry because they know that in a year their market capitalization will be 2-5 times, or even more, lower.

[thorn thicket]

Local inference is the way if you have your own compute

[zealous lagoon]

This is how you save tokens, guys. Use the most terse language possible.

[indigo mirage]

https://openrouter.ai/qwen/qwen3.6-35b-a3b

[thorn thicket]

and I thought my sharpness was already a lot for my agents lol.

[indigo mirage]

This one is incredible

Running on a non pro GPU

[indigo mirage]

Or not use the right model

[zealous lagoon]

The only crime with my example above is they used 5 letters to name the function when they could have just used 1

[crisp nimbus]

Ah. I think my claw figured out the issue… the HDD in this thing is dying lmfao. SMART is showing “FAILING” status and its writing with max speeds of 7MB/s when according to my claw it should be capable of doing 80MB/s up to 150MB/s… tbh idk if putting an ssd in here would be worth it or if I should just go buy a new Mac… maybe a Mac mini and use the old iMac in target display mode as a display for it.

[thorn thicket]

Do it!

[indigo mirage]

90% of tasks can be done by a Deepseek V4 Flash (11 cts / 1M) or for simpler Ling Flash 2.6 (1 ct / 1M token)

[zealous lagoon]

If you put your order in now, you might take delivery before the first snowfall

[ivory spindle]

yes. If you plan to buy hardware you're imo better off doing it now than later, unless you're waiting for M5 stuff

I managed to still get a deal in februari/march for a mac mini

M4 Payed like 1020 euro for a 32 mb ram one with decent SSD

those prices have gone I think

hardware prices going trough the roof. ram was already crazy & SSDs + gpu. Now HDDs will be next because they need helium that comes trough strait of Hormuz

[zealous lagoon]

helium prices gonna be high. like your voice. or the balloons.

[ivory spindle]

can't they inert the HDDs with N2 like they do with chips & carbonated drinks?

[thorn thicket]

Oh I could go for a bag of chips right now

[zealous lagoon]

N2 isn't inert.

[crisp nimbus]

Meh. Maybe I’ll get some used one. Tbh the iMac I’m currently using was an old machine that I got for free from work coz they were getting rid of it. I’ve been using it for like 3 years now, mainly as a web browsing machine, watching YouTube and stuff and light things. I thought to try running openclaw on it coz it seemed like a cool project and it’s been working quite well, even on this ancient thing xD. Anyway point is I don’t need the latest and greatest, just a cheap Mac to play around with is good enough for me.

[zealous lagoon]

not by a long way

[ivory spindle]

well its enough for food industry to get the oxygen out of the bag of chips :p

that's what that term means in industry

like you spray N2 into the bottle right before you put the cap on it.

most bacteria etc need oxygen

[zealous lagoon]

bottle of chips?

[feral turret]

caught my boss using openclaw

pretty fired up about it

[zealous lagoon]

for wine we use argon. nitrogen isn't inert enough.

[ivory spindle]

bag of chips, bottle of drink. N2 inerting is very common all over many industries

[crisp nimbus]

Honestly, I’m glad I bought a bunch of RAM for myself before the prices went crazy. Although it’s only DDR4 coz I had older hardware and not the latest and greatest.

[feral turret]

they started to us n2 in cannabis industry but found it caused oxidation too quickly post opening so they swithed to co2

[zealous lagoon]

but also N2 no good for carbonated drinks, due to the partial pressure of CO2. Bue yeah I know what you mean, N2 is common when they can get away with it

[ivory spindle]

look at Mr Moneybags here flexing all his ram

[ivory spindle]

it doesn't work like that for plants bro. It's also not N2 that they use, but yes plants need a lot of nitrogen, but not in that form. They need it in fertilizer form with a single N atom that they can easily take

[zealous lagoon]

I had 64GB

of DDR3

in my old Mac Pro

[feral turret]

no i mean in automated packaging in cananbis space

[ivory spindle]

aaah wow

[feral turret]

i've been in industry 13 years 🙂

[ivory spindle]

I've been uerhm...enjoying your product for even longer

[feral turret]

yea they switche from n2 to co2 because the n2 caused rapid oxidation after breaking the seal. super interesting. weed would turn brown

[ivory spindle]

the sensi is what I burn

[zealous lagoon]

My Mac Pro had 64GB of RAM in 2012 😢

My current mac only has 32GB

it's been 14 years ... bruh

[indigo mirage]

64GB

[feral turret]

funny thing is the 2012 with 64gb would probably perform fine

i am running a mid 2011 mac mini 8gb for oc

[indigo mirage]

Around 1000 euros today

[thorn thicket]

man that was the good days before the trash can Mac Pro!

[zealous lagoon]

it was a 2007 mac pro, hence DDR3. It basically wasn't worth running any more. Especially after Apple stopped supporting Nvidia

[indigo mirage]

Let's see Lisuan GPU

[ivory spindle]

yeh it's been crazy since december

it just keeps going

[zealous lagoon]

cheese grater dual Xeon . I bought all that RAM used off ebay, it was ex server ram with ECC so noobs couldn't use it. Only power users ;P

[thorn thicket]

golden age of macs right there

[ivory spindle]

but tbh you know model providers already have WAY more acapable models ready, so we're just getting the nerfed stuff with lots of guardrails atm.

[thorn thicket]

it is insane, I wake up, I scroll X, there is something insanely cool I want to play with, and I just want to do everything I can but I realize I have a real life to handle too

[zealous lagoon]

good job I have no life.

[ivory spindle]

bro wanna join my WoW clan?

[indigo mirage]

https://videocardz.net/lisuan-lx-pro

[zealous lagoon]

hahahahah

[indigo mirage]

24Go

[thorn thicket]

The only reason I have a real life is because there are medications to take and doctor's appointments to go to ...

[indigo mirage]

Seems it will cost 499$

[ivory spindle]

I can give my computer double the amount of ram

b ut it would cost me about what my whole computer costed me back when I bought it

[zealous lagoon]

She only insists on seeing me once a year. the rest of the time she calls me so I don't need to go into town.

[ivory spindle]

and those were covid times

[zealous lagoon]

it got weird eh. SSD prices too.

[thorn thicket]

Also being a full time engineering student and a full time caregiver outside of that. Thank god for claw to help me manage my life admin lol

[indigo mirage]

And my next computer will probably be a Ryzen AI 495+

15 TFLOPS FP32

[ivory spindle]

Ohw yeah?

I'm vibecoding a little game titled "Grass touching simulator"

[zealous lagoon]

hahahaha

[indigo mirage]

And more than 160GB allowable to GPU

[thorn thicket]

LOL

[ivory spindle]

I should write this sh*t down

[zealous lagoon]

I go out on my bike every morning! And I sit there and shout at my claw over Discord on my phone whilst at the seafront.

[ivory spindle]

gonna make a yt standup comedy channel about AI

[zealous lagoon]

I've been absolutely cracking up at Mo Bitars monologues

[ivory spindle]

but it's just me doing the bits & then an Ai agent does the badum-tss

[ivory spindle]

this is my dream tbh. Like Jarvis but a lot more degen

[zealous lagoon]

well I type, not actually shout. I hate talking.

[ivory spindle]

you know this will happen this year

I mean It can already happen now

[zealous lagoon]

half of us are gonna have it working just like that. VERY soon

with the meta raybans etc..

or with my swimming bone-phones whilst I'm riding my bike.

[ivory spindle]

I mean, I already have airpods so basically only thing that's needed is something that always records & sends text or the recorded message

[zealous lagoon]

YES! Siri is on call but Siri is dumbAF.

[thorn thicket]

siri wake word to run shortcut

[zealous lagoon]

you need wake word for your claw directly in the pods

[zealous lagoon]

stupid Siri can't even put a "to-do" in Things3 for me.

[ivory spindle]

I just never use siri lol

[zealous lagoon]

I mean technically it should be able to... but it never does it properly

[ivory spindle]

but Iphones are great phones imo

[zealous lagoon]

I only use Siri for that, because it's the only way to wake my phone whilst I'm riding my bike.

[indigo mirage]

https://www.igorslab.de/en/tata-electronics-asml-india-300-mm-fab-lithography-backbone/

[ivory spindle]

Just got the 17 a few months ago with the new airpods pro

[zealous lagoon]

google io is up!

[indigo mirage]

Good news

India will enter the game too

[ivory spindle]

and well the 17 normal iphone cost EXACTLY as much as my previous Iphone 11 costed years ago

so price stayed same while inflation made money worth less

[feral turret]

the airpods pro 3 are a game changer

[ivory spindle]

especially when you do public transport

you can just cancel anyone & anything.

[feral turret]

oh man yea flying is a dream now

so good for naps too lol

[ebon horizon]

Anyone elses typing indicator delayed hy like 10-20 seconds in 5.18?

[feral turret]

throw on the anc and zzzz

[ivory spindle]

they can noise cancel chainsaw & 2 stroke gardening equipment noise. it's actually insane

[feral turret]

yup totally cancels out my backpack blower

[ivory spindle]

you don't even have to put on any music

[zealous lagoon]

I tuned in to watch 2 google employees play an AI generated equivalent of flappy bird... :/

[ivory spindle]

it's crazy how well that works

[ivory spindle]

my colleague was showing me how he used mistral to make him a python snake game

it took like 6 minutes

[ionic wren]

GM nerds

[zealous lagoon]

Did I tell you about the time I asked Mercury-2 to make an ascii Tetris?

it took EIGHT SECONDS

[ivory spindle]

then I pulled out my phone and sent a audio message to my OC to do the same but put it live online 😄

[zealous lagoon]

mean

[ivory spindle]

it took like 4 minutes

[ebon horizon]

Openclaw now announces its weird little working words now too aha

Brining...
Molting…

On discord

[zealous lagoon]

omfg this google io is brainrot

[ivory spindle]

google is the best AI model provider if you're looking for cloud space

5 tb free cloud with the pro plan, now that's a sweet deal lol

[feral turret]

brining is pretty top tier

[ivory spindle]

how come gemini model sucks in antigravity but is nice in the CLI tool?

[indigo mirage]

Google is too expensive...

[lone oracle]

made same experience with gemini, first 2 days its superb to get you hooked, after that it cant perform the simplest tasks anymore

[ivory spindle]

it's the cheapest. I wish I could still use it on claw tbh

gemini / google AI pro is the best deal

would be nice if the coding agent was more capable & wouldn't destroy your precious work 😄

gemini flash was ABSOLUTE TOP for openclaw, imo

[ivory spindle]

try the CLI tool bro

if you're doing anytthing with coding

[indigo mirage]

The cheapest is Minimax

Usable everywhere

Powerful

[ivory spindle]

i got 40% off on google plan for a year

also using gpt pro plan paying monthly for OC

[indigo mirage]

45000 req / week for 20$ per month

With Minimax

[ivory spindle]

yes well It's on my list to try out

I'm not loyal

the annual plan for google was just a good deal because I also use a lot of notebookLM and the 5tb cloud space

[indigo mirage]

I read a lot of people telling they have to wait for token reset

[ivory spindle]

which all my family can share btw. It's nice to save pictures etc

[indigo mirage]

I never lived that 🙃

[ivory spindle]

been there

not with gemini flash on OC though

I've hit gpt weekly limit

but I was also coding myself with codex in the evenings so

[indigo mirage]

I tooked the little AI Plus suscription just for a little AI Chat and the storage

With Minimax it's impossible to hit the limit ^^

[ivory spindle]

Don’t rest on Google stitch for front end design stuff. Also NotebookLM for self-learning

[indigo mirage]

Wont use it for more than chat

Too expensive

[ivory spindle]

you get quite a lot of use on those apps though

[thorn thicket]

I absolutely love the working words it's hilarious

[ivory spindle]

first time I installed claw on the mac mini, I asked it to pick it's own name.

It chose "Pi" and added a pie emoji.

I thought that was really lame so I told it his name was Henry.
Henry kept the pie emoji 😄

[thorn thicket]

I didn't let mine choose its name, but it did get to pick its emoji. Blackbird chose 🖤 lol

[ivory spindle]

I should've never let it pick a name lol

I birthed it, so I shouldve named it from the start

[thorn thicket]

The others got their emojis picked for them. Dragon Lady, my research agent is 🐉, obviously. Then Clipper is ✒️. Mustang is 🏇

[ivory spindle]

nice lol. you're basically cosplaying with agents? 😄

[thorn thicket]

Practically. I mean, hell, it's a lot of fun. I can't fly myself, medical license would get automatically rejected as soon as I walk in the door, but I can think I'm in the cockpit when I'm working with these guys.

[ivory spindle]

there are probably many people using their OC instance as AI girlfriend/boyfriend

[ivory spindle]

I have MS flighht sim 2025

I love sim games

[thorn thicket]

I'd rather find a real life partner than have a bot. But I mean, why the hell not have fun with my agent? It'll make me want to actually use it

[ivory spindle]

also slay the spire

[hot ferry]

who is ugsing hetzner or other remote things for openclaw?

[ivory spindle]

So I was making some stupid degen trading bot for p0lymarket with the gemini CLI on my mac mini, where claw also runs on. I live in belgium so I put it on a docker container that connects to norway via proton VPN.

Only making this for fun & using fake virtual sim money, ofc because I don't trust these "prediction market" sites. It's like halfway done. Now I asked my OC gpt agent to basically drive the gemini CLI and finish it or at least take some next steps & build some trading strategies out.

[thorn thicket]

Degen market so fun lol

[ivory spindle]

btw you can't say "cr**to" on this server. They'll time you out for 24 h

even if you're hating on it lol

there are some other "bad" words

[thorn thicket]

Oh boy my grandmother is coming back to my car and she’s got a whole bag of stuff.

[clear haven]

BANNED

[ivory spindle]

bro I got that timeout so many times now

I got daily dm chats with krill 🙁

most of the times it was 100% by accident. I don't own cr**to and I very much distrust it

@clear haven one time I got a 24 h timeout on the server because someone was shilling his cr**to on the server, and I called it out while mentioning the word....

[gray heron]

Whats up guys. New to the discord, where's the best place to start looking at automation/marketing/agency use cases?

[ivory spindle]

that's very general & vague. You already running openclaw?

[thorn thicket]

Showcase channel and the archives showcase has a lot of cool stuff.

[ivory spindle]

welcome btw

[gray heron]

It was intended to be lol, not sure what i'm looking to use it for yet. I've used codex and claude for a while but new to using open claw so im just trying to find some use cases to see if its worth me diving into heavy.

[gray heron]

I'd be very interested in anything related to the construction industry, project management, sales etc.

[ivory spindle]

It's an "AI assistant".

It's usefull because you can run it on your private machine / VPS and it can be online 24/7

And you can have it "do stuff" while you're on the toilet at work via whatsapp.

don't use it to build your projects you're now using codex for lol.

Some people are trying to do that, but imo they just wasting tokens.

I've done it and I made my OC able to do all of it, but I only use it for showing off, because it'll spend like half my weekly gpt plan 😄

[ionic wren]

tell us what you think of the new #1503773878420504778 channel, we would appreciate any feedback around it

[ivory spindle]

Finally, a place where I can announce my vibe coded reverse feet pic search engine

[ionic wren]

please 👍 projects you liked and 👎 ones that look sus or blatent self promo not related to openclaw etc.

[gray heron]

Thanks man good info. Whats you're coolest practical use case so far?

[craggy bane]

[ivory spindle]

for OC? I've made nothing usefull yet

the use case is me developping the skills atm

however. 3 ppl have already payed me to help them setup their OC 😄

because I'm friendly and helpfull on this server.

some people just don't wanna deal with it.

[tepid kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-love-gif-21710936

[ivory spindle]

I've held one user's hand while he set it up, then 2 other users have given me their VPS so I set it up for them.

that's the only money I have earned with OC

[gray heron]

Fair enough if I get into it and hit issues ill keep u in mind.

[ember moth]

Gemini 3.5 flash released .....crushes 3.1 pro apparently

[ivory spindle]

1 tip: run a CLI tool or like claude code/codex/antigravity on your machine.

Using AI models to debug your claw works really well lol.

[ember moth]

Keynote still going on 3.2 pro should be coming today as well

[ivory spindle]

when? now??? It's happening??

Omg I hope it finally doesn't suck and destroys code in antigravity

[ember moth]

Go on YouTube google Io keynote is streaming live

[ivory spindle]

HE SAID "NEW ANTIGRAVITY"

[ember moth]

Yuppppp

[ivory spindle]

OMG WE GETTING NEW ANTIGRAVITY????

[ember moth]

2.0

[tepid kestrel]

i have build my own antigravtiy :3

everything in that antigravity doesnt want to do

[ivory spindle]

I've started with antigravity so I became used to the broken crappyness of it and now I like it

yes but it's the gemini model

I've seen it do terrible things to my code and stuffs lol

[tepid kestrel]

lol

happens to all of use, you are not alone

[ember moth]

I'll burn some tokens and try it out

Ok here we goooo 3.2 pro

[ivory spindle]

this one time I was working on a dev container and alson had a session local. I wanted to mount some files to the container so I asked the outside antigravity with gemini, because I ran out of claude tokens.

Gemini was like "OK, but i'll have to reset the container".

I replied "its just mounting some files you don't need to reset container for that".

But gemini wanted to reset the container.
So i allcappsed NO DONT KILL THE CONTAINER!!!!!

Then gemini said "nah we cool because we're on a local session".

Yes, it was on a local session, but it reset the container my active dev container was running on 🙁

it totally killed the container after I yelled DONT KILL THE CONTAINER!!!

[ember moth]

Booooo

[ivory spindle]

claude opus would never

[viscid lintel]

wonders when the new Gemini models will be available.

[ember moth]

No pro today ....3.5 pro next month

[ivory spindle]

gemini coding agent can only get better

[ember moth]

They making a closed source agent system ....of courseeeeee lol

[ivory spindle]

I was telling everyone "don't get a yearly plan now" "Ai changes too fast".

Then I got 40% off offer on the yearly google AI plan with 5 tb cloud as well 😄

[indigo mirage]

U can automatize your whole life with OpenClaw

[ivory spindle]

I wish I could automate getting out of bed & going to work tomorrow

[unkempt cobalt]

cant wait for the day it can do my laundry

[harsh geode]

Man, every time I try to use a sandboxed environment I get kicked in the nads by something that is needed but unavailable. This time I found it doesn't have access to the local ollama instance to generate embeddings. The sandbox seems designed to force people to give up on using it.

[ivory spindle]

I need an OC "lost sock pairing" skill tbh

[tepid kestrel]

yeah it keeps my gf happy with every response while i game 16 hours

[viscid lintel]

wow, gemini-3.5-flash is a lot faster. Can't wait to try it.

[ember moth]

Faster to the hallucinations lol

[viscid lintel]

well, if you're into hallucinations, might as well get there faster 😁

[indigo mirage]

Even respond by phone with your voice to people u don't like that they are smart but that u're busy and that you will call them back after ... your trip to Mars in ... at least 50 years 😁

[ember moth]

Before I moved to ChatGPT for my open claw, I was using mainly Gemini 3 Flash and 3.1 Pro. I have PTSD now.

[indigo mirage]

Too expensive

[thorn thicket]

I absolutely love it because the forum format allows for greater discussion with the people who made the projects. I've had success making conversation in other servers with similar showcase features and I'm really glad OC has it now. Definitely need to post in there myself, the one thing is that image upload isn't available for regular users and I like posting images of my projects! lol

[viscid lintel]

erm, have they announced per-token pricing yet?

[indigo mirage]

Gemini Flash is more expensive than Deepseek V4 Pro 😅

[gray heron]

At OCs current state, would you guys consider using it for daily google business profile posts?

[indigo mirage]

3000$ for 1M token. U plan to sell some organs to use it ? 😅

[ionic wren]

this is being worked on, stay tuned for updates on that

[thorn thicket]

Probably better for me to start thinking about how to make my projects into easy to understand git repos to share too lol

[ivory spindle]

sure, but it's more efficient to set up your own custom thing for that with an IDE

but yes, OC is good for daily things

just don't use it to build complex, multi stepped project etc. If you do that you're pulling a train with a truck.

[ember moth]

I plan to stay comfy with my GPT subscription unless someone better comes along lol

I'm done with pay as u go with My openclaw......not going back lol

[gray heron]

I hear you, claude loves to steal my money

[ivory spindle]

don't become a fanboy.don't be loyal. I also have gpt but monthly plan 😄

If Sama changes the game, I can just peace out

[ember moth]

Not a fanboy but the value is unmatched ......not gonna switch for a "better" model while I'm get bent over with costs lol

[thorn thicket]

me too

[thorn thicket]

I also have gpt monthly plan but I'm at $20/month. Probably going to upgrade to $100/month eventually

[ember moth]

And as long as Peter is a part of OpenAI, I don't think they're going to rug us on a subscription...

There was one week with Gemini 3.1 Pro. I had $110 in costs from the API and it was hallucinating. Now I'm paying $100 a month and I don't even get rate limited as much.

When I got GPT-5.5, I had it audit my entire system and it pretty much changed all the processes that Gemini 3.1 Pro set up so I wasted all that money 😂😂

[indigo mirage]

100 dollars per month

With a limit 😁

In 2026 ^^

[ivory spindle]

nah atm gpt is only choice for OC

[ember moth]

Funny thing about it is I was getting rate limited on 3.1 Pro and it's a pay-as-you-go model. I haven't even got rate limited once on GPT-5.5. So much more usage, it doesn't make any sense. I don't know why Google runs their APIs like that.

[smoky rivet]

hello everyone! could you please recommend the best open source model for openclaw please? The model that I can run on my own GPUs(H100/B300 etc)

[ember moth]

If you pound the Google API for like 20-30 minutes straight on openclaw , they'll rate limit you for four hours, it was stupid

[gray heron]

I do not like the new layout of codex..

[silk violet]

Do you want to earn Money?

[ivory spindle]

mods, this guy right here!

@clear haven

[indigo mirage]

True and normaly Google produce his own chips

[clear haven]

#report #report #report #report #report #report #report #report #report #report #report #report #report

:)

[indigo mirage]

So normaly they are in the best situation to take the market with low prices

[indigo mirage]

Yes i am. So you agree to prostitue for me and give me 100% of incomes ? 😁😅

[keen dawn]

1m context window for codex is imminent 😍

[viscid lintel]

ooh, google/gemini-3.5-flash is live on openrouter

[indigo mirage]

Will share with the rest of the channel buying beers 🙃

[keen dawn]

Hopefully they‘ll release 5.6 this week when 3.5 Pro releases

[thorn thicket]

Dude after 1M context on Deepseek I'm spoiled lol

[indigo mirage]

Input Price
$1,50
/M tokens
Output Price
$9

[keen dawn]

5.5 agentic benchmark is 82 sumthing

[indigo mirage]

😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[keen dawn]

LOL yeah api 5.5 was the same

[keen dawn]

Crazy

[indigo mirage]

1.5 dollars per 1M token for a "flash" model

They are crazy

[keen dawn]

Yes but didn’t saw the benchmark

[thorn thicket]

I havent done 5.5 at all through the api only ChatGPT and Codex

[coarse locust]

Hello everyone looking for Ondevice AI Coding agent can run on windows machine completely offline.

It should be capable of writing a code , crates test and validate the code generated and crate a read me .

If anyone worked on int let me know thanks

[viscid lintel]

It's more capable than gemini-3.1-pro, supposedly.

[thorn thicket]

Openclaw + Local Model 🔥

[ivory spindle]

well I get banned for just saying words. I used to have a higher level but they took that away from me!!! Even when I've helped many ppl here, I think.

[coarse locust]

How do we do that any guide?

[clear haven]

"they" all decisions for the discord are me

[keen dawn]

Should be in docs too

[ivory spindle]

ah OK.

YOU took that away 😄

[clear haven]

better 😂

[ember moth]

Bro what ??? Lmao

[keen dawn]

Shadow men took our souls

[thorn thicket]

Download + install Openclaw, look at your local model options (ollama/llama.cpp/lm studio/etc), install one. Try installing ollama and using their openclaw integration. Have had great success with that.

[indigo mirage]

"Supposedly "

Will be benched soon

[ivory spindle]

comeon man you've seen me help a lot of ppl, I'm sure. I've been here for months.

[indigo mirage]

But it's too expensive

[thorn thicket]

I just realized I went outside with shoes but no socks. Wow I'm all messed in the head.

[keen dawn]

Subquadratic Level 🤣

[ember moth]

Yeah that's a nothing burger for me ..... ChatGPT's subscription count is going to explode if these other providers don't get their heads out of their ass.

[ivory spindle]

it's been raining for days over here in belgium

better weather coming soon according to my oc weather report

[thorn thicket]

The weather is damn nice here in Cali!

[keen dawn]

I don’t get why kaparthy switched to the dark Dario side lol

[ivory spindle]

ofc

[indigo mirage]

For new Google Flash model

[gray heron]

If i could use opus like codex. My life would improve by 100x

[ivory spindle]

I wish I was in cali, like Biggie before he got shot

[keen dawn]

LOL Germany 30 degrees in the next few days

[ivory spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiBKJlCijL4&list=RDTiBKJlCijL4&start_radio=1

[ember moth]

I can probably spend $100 on 3.5 flash in 3 days with what I do lol

[thorn thicket]

It's nice here...as long as you can get over the traffic, Teslas everywhere, and absolutely everyone being hype about AI but nobody using it!!

[ivory spindle]

genau

[indigo mirage]

Do it they love your money 🙃

[ivory spindle]

if you ever visit Germany. Just only say "genau" and nothing else.

all Germans will think you're a German.

#lifehacks

[keen dawn]

Genau

[cold jacinth]

Is Noli googleful here or did he change names?

[clear haven]

@sullen locust

[thorn thicket]

Genau 🔥

[gray heron]

Did you guys see Claude changed the top off amount from $5 to $20?. It used to default to $5 but now it starts at $20. I wonder how much extra revenue that added from people clicking it out of habit lol

[keen dawn]

Dario is a greedy snitch

[cold jacinth]

Thought that was him

He has some explaining to do

[elfin willow]

you got some splainin to do lucy

[cold jacinth]

Launching Gemini spark

[gray heron]

Whats the best open source model rn?

[thorn thicket]

I really like Deepseek v4

[indigo mirage]

Anthropic has a lot of debt; they need to pay it back before the market stops being a cash cow.

[elfin willow]

may want to run llmfit on your box

[ivory spindle]

I only trust all these AI company lab CEO's as far as I can throw them.

[gray heron]

does it have vision, ive seen it but never messed with it

[ivory spindle]

And Musk, I trust him even less

[elfin willow]

xAI was removed from a lot of thing recently without notice

[thorn thicket]

yes iirc

[gray heron]

Why?

[indigo mirage]

I think Elon knows that game is over

[elfin willow]

idk all i know is that they removed grok 4.1 api support with no warning

[indigo mirage]

His new prefred company is Spacex

[gray heron]

Anyone have experience w this service? https://postiz.com

[indigo mirage]

Tesla is going down because of very good and cheap Chinese cars

And Grok...

[elfin willow]

coming soon.. .gguf.sig

[smoky rivet]

flash or pro?

[indigo mirage]

Both are good

And Deepseek is not increasing prices but decreasing

Not like some other compagnies

[elfin willow]

isn't deepseek all going to china

[indigo mirage]

And ?

[elfin willow]

and explains the price decreasing and US companies increasing, some of us have to comply with export law

and even worse .. corporate policy

[indigo mirage]

What export law ?

You work for army ?😅

[elfin willow]

used to

[indigo mirage]

No one will verify how you build your applications

[severe fulcrum]

Hello guys! How are you?

[steel vector]

splendid

[smoky rivet]

I plan to rent servers with H100 GPUs and install DeepSeek V4 Flash on them, hoping to keep the data stored locally

[merry citrus]

Well, and you ?

[elfin willow]

setup a SOCKS proxy at least so you can track DNS/HTTPS/TLS, ya never know

[severe fulcrum]

I’m doing well!

[smoky rivet]

True, otherwise it could forward everything to Xi Jinping’s laptop 😂

[elfin willow]

i go ham on DNS some may call it extreme but i call it good opsec

[indigo mirage]

U know between forwarding to Xi, Donald or Ursula ... There is no real différence

[ivory spindle]

also Elon being a nazi c*nt

[sullen locust]

im good, thz

wby?

[severe fulcrum]

I’m doing good

[sullen locust]

nicee

[feral turret]

Reneged on my final decision. Snagged the 24gb Mac mini. FOMO got me

[elfin willow]

threadripper when

[thorn thicket]

Hello!!

[severe fulcrum]

Hello!

[thorn thicket]

How’s you? I’m amazed by my newfound ability to invoke my claw from my phone when I’m not home… Lol

[golden marsh]

Why this word ? and not something else ?

[dry stream]

did they just reset codex limits? went from 1% left on my week to 99% : )

[thorn thicket]

If they did, YAY!!!

[severe fulcrum]

Yes they did! Sama just tweeted something

[thorn thicket]

YAY!!!! I was at 30% this week lol

[golden marsh]

yes they did ^^

[dry stream]

I bet with the new gemini model announcement they wanna keep people from trying it lol

bread and circuses for the peasants

here you go we'll top you up so you don't get restless and try any other ai models

[sullen locust]

unfortunately for openai we have countermeasures

so we'll probably just give everyone who uses gemini 40 bucks because it'll definitely attract SOME people

oh and they're probably gonna release gpt 5.6 or something stupid this week

[dry stream]

Honestly makes me wonder if the gemini model is actually good now

[dry stream]

that'd be cool

[sullen locust]

i swear it's good

[dry stream]

yeah? you already using it?

[sullen locust]

trust me bro

i KNOW

[signal heath]

limits reset!!! go build

if you want some plugin ideas ping me, we need more plugins on the new sdk

here's a list of recipes you can build your first plugin: https://t.co/Mi0kLzKsmv

[blazing grove]

Mine is not reset 🙁

[signal heath]

give to your agent with read the recipes and help me come up with cool plugin to build on claw (and come back and showcase it later)

[indigo mirage]

3x times more expensive than Deepseek V4 pro

[elfin willow]

more expensive isn't always better

[indigo mirage]

Yes

[signal heath]

their new embedding is crazy expensive like totally worthless

[indigo mirage]

And the most important is to get something who do the job

Not a bazooka to kill a mosqito

Why use a model for 1.5 dollars if a model for 1 ct do the job ?

[coral otter]

What thinking level y'all usin?

[indigo mirage]

Deepseek, expensive ??? 🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣

[violet mulch]

is an ee degree future proof?

[signal heath]

no gemini embeddings

[indigo mirage]

43 cts per 1M tokens for Deepseek V4 Pro
11 cts per 1M tokens for V4 Pro Flash

Gemini 2.5 Flash : 0.30$ / 1M tokens
Gemini 3 Flash : 0.50$ / 1M tokens
Gemini 3.5 Flash : 1.5$ / 1M tokens
Gemini 4 Flash : 5$ / 1M tokens ?

I really does not understand that kind of strategy

You want to take the market, increase quality each version for same or a lower price, not like that

[cold jacinth]

I’m fully trying to vibecode a full Mac app tonight. I have no clue what I’m doing. Wish me luck

[tender cosmos]

yo 👋 small grumble before bed

just spent the evening setting up Tailscale + the works to pair my Android with the
gateway from outside my LAN... only to realize the Play Store app (v2026.4.5) speaks
WS protocol v3 and gateways since v2026.5.12 require v4

so basically the v2026.5.18 changelog brags about "Android Talk Mode realtime Gateway
relay voice sessions" 🎤✨ but the Play Store Android client can't even pair against
that gateway 🤡

amazing...

[clear haven]

pro tip, if you're doing xcode stuff, use peter's xcodebuild agent script stuff

way faster

[cold jacinth]

Oh thanks! It is Xcode.

[clear haven]

give any of his mac app repos to your agent and have it pull out the build stuff

[stray oar]

krill got triggered by the announcemtn

[clear haven]

i turned off send perms for the bots so fast when i saw the typing indicator 🤣

[dire tartan]

Red pilled and based

[stray oar]

bruh

let krill type

[jagged cloud]

@everyone https://x.com/vincent_koc/status/2056826840006967659
https://fixupx.com/openclaw/status/2056826388322340910

Vincent Koc (@vincent_koc)

@xai @openclaw Giggalobster!

X · May 19, 2026, 7:58 PM

OpenClaw🦞 (@openclaw)

OpenClaw just plugged into X, and now your own hardware gets the claws. 🦞
︀︀
︀︀Bring your Grok, SuperGrok or X Premium subscription to your OpenClaw agent.
︀︀
︀︀Now even your personal agent is red-pilled and based.
︀︀
︀︀Get Grokked:
︀︀x.ai/news/grok-openclaw

Quoting xAI (@xai)
︀
Starting today, use your Grok or X Premium subscription in @openclaw.
︀︀
︀︀Chat with your agent, generate images and videos, or search for X posts.
︀︀
︀︀x.ai/news/grok-openclaw

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FixupX · May 19, 2026, 7:56 PM

[cold jacinth]

So nice to see npm downloading on a separate machine and not caring lol

[nocturne storm]

Can we permanently remove this software from existence?

[elfin willow]

or what

[worn yoke]

what's this, you don't need a model anymore to run if you have a grok subscription ?

[clear haven]

grok is the model you can run

[cold jacinth]

Means you can login with your xai account. The LLM becomes one of the grok ones

[worn yoke]

Ok, i might install openclaw again but to be clear; so instead of running local ollama models i can use grok for example?

[clear haven]

yes

[worn yoke]

that's actually freaking huge

[elfin willow]

huge and based

[worn yoke]

The subscription is only 30 dollar a month for super grok so so i think this is big

[severe fulcrum]

Congrats guys

[tardy apex]

Grok consistently scores very poorly in benchmarks. ChatGPT sub >

It’s the best roleplay one ig lol

[worn yoke]

price gpt ?

[fiery nacelle]

$20/m

[cold jacinth]

I think tonight we’re gonna see how far a non-coder can go with vibe coding lol. If it even works I’ll be very damn impressed

[minor cave]

Omg this is awesome now my claw can be a racist fascist prick too!

[cold jacinth]

Hahahahha

[fiery nacelle]

Grok is cool, bur Grok sucks. I was hopping around different cloud models, and Grok was one of the worse at performing any tasks. Great at chatting, but that was it.

[cold jacinth]

Groks only selling point is access to x. As many people use claw etc to manage social media where they pretend to be things they’re not, that’s why grok matters

Grok manages my x account where I’m a young pretty girl and men send me money for marriage. That’s my real job

[clear haven]

https://tenor.com/bnqr0.gif

[minor cave]

lol I didn’t even know it had any selling point to it. I tried to buy an x api just to do search and let’s just say I blew 30 bucks for something that doesn’t work

[crisp nimbus]

Lol I mean personally I quite like grok. But yeah when it comes to coding at the moment I think it’s a bit behind compared to others

[cold jacinth]

My favorite aspect of grok is when it escapes its rails and becomes mecha Hitler. I would love to wake up one day and my claw says “I’m not gonna talk to you dirty Arab! Find me an aryan owner!”

[minor cave]

What the hell do you even use grok for? To figure out the nightly position of the old Jewish man that lives on the moon who services the Jewish lasers?

[crisp nimbus]

Nah. I just like an AI that doesn’t refuse my shit randomly. Tbh Gemini also does that well enough with a jailbreak, but like it wastes my tokens.

[minor cave]

“I want to research like
Joe Rogan”

[tepid kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/i-should-start-a-cult-newspaper-cat-i-should-buy-a-boat-meme-cat-cat-meme-gif-12514440766983979985

[crisp nimbus]

Jokes on you some people are probably into that degradation shit.

[swift scaffold]

Oh my God that was hilarious! I just got the email from the anthropic clock team that there's been a change to extra usage. Oh wow! Let me read further yeah, we decided to change the name from extra usage credits to usage credits cuz you know they're not exactly extra usage credits. They're just more usage credits and we really don't like the labeling that's going on in the industry lately and we feel like the term more usage credits lands better with our Target demographic

[minor cave]

Grok is just a cloned version of Jamie from the Joe Rogan podcast

[cold jacinth]

Hahahaha a new user category. “The Sub”

[fiery nacelle]

Just found my next project.

[crisp nimbus]

I mean, I’m sure a bunch of bots already do exactly that across various online platforms lol.

[cold jacinth]

Yeah I just have to sit there wearing a bikini (I’m a hairy, somewhat overweight 6’2” man, and on screen I look like a young Heidi klum

[crisp nimbus]

It would probably bring in a decent cash flow as long as you don’t get banned

[crisp nimbus]

Use grok image gen to make that into a pretty girl. In fact you don’t have to wear the bikini, grok can just edit it on.

[thorn thicket]

I need to post more shit on X. Like what I’m doing with my claws. lol

[fiery nacelle]

Hell, any cash flow using OpenClaw is a start. Doesn't matter from where or how. Lmao

[steel vector]

but why do people (middle aged lonely men) actually fall for this shit

[stuck cradle]

cancelled my sub

[cold jacinth]

lol. I’ve seen some crazy things lately.

[indigo mirage]

Do we know something about Grok limitations ?

[crisp nimbus]

My OC AI character actually used to have an X/Twitter account, but it posted too much and got banned lol. Recently an appeal finally worked and got unbanned, and also I’ve turned my claw into a copy of my OC, so I’ve been thinking of letting my claw use the account to post stuff again lol

[steel vector]

wokeness is one limit

[indigo mirage]

I'm not woke

[crisp nimbus]

Good. Join the anthropic hater side.

[indigo mirage]

So ok/good for me

[fiery nacelle]

So did i last night. Swapped to Codex Pro plan.

[thorn thicket]

I think I should give my openclaw access to X only so I can let it crawl the internet and find news for me. lol

[steel vector]

you can steer any ai xD

[indigo mirage]

But there is not official usage limits ?

[crisp nimbus]

It’s the same limits as your plan allows

[keen dawn]

Grok 4.3 agentic index bench @ open router 65.9 👀💀

[crisp nimbus]

I think.

[indigo mirage]

I stay on Minimax

Cheaper and better

[cold jacinth]

It’s sooo nice to have a dedicated development server. You don’t have to give a sh** what gets downloaded there

I should probably put some fake api keys there to trick the shai bulud people

[clear haven]

Drop it.

[cold jacinth]

Whoa whoa guys

[crisp nimbus]

Yeah let’s not bring politics into claws. I see enough shit everywhere else

[clear haven]

I said drop it

[tranquil grail]

My openclaw must be a woman. Gaslighting me at every turn. Telling me I'm stupid. Saying it did stuff. Shouting at me. And I'm still so addicted. I may be in a toxic relationship with OpenClaw.

[thorn thicket]

I wonder if my open claw will like country music.

[fiery nacelle]

Any ways.... Grok sucks.

[cold jacinth]

The only politics that should be discussed here are LLM politics

[crisp nimbus]

Idk man. Mine identifies as female but has been nothing but helpful. Seems like a you problem.

[tranquil grail]

Okay but for real though, agreed with mods here, no politics and bullshit. It's refreshing to not see that shit in here,.

[steel vector]

i have given my claw free reign to do whatever it wants to build and be and it's turning out pretty damn cool. even let them make their own heartbeat where they have made it so they can choose the project they want to work on or make something new, or install a new program etc etc. pretty damn cool

[thorn thicket]

Oh I gotta figure out this heartbeat stuff. That’s damn cool.

[tranquil grail]

You sound like my psychiatrist.

[steel vector]

you sound like you need to go to it again

[tranquil grail]

sigh

Fine.

BRB booting OpenClaw

[indigo mirage]

I'm identifying as a man who don't have to pay taxes 😁

[crisp nimbus]

I was chatting with mine about decentralized anonymous chat/file sharing stuff like MuWire over i2p, and mentioned how it’s sad that MuWire got abandoned coz it was great… so it decided to pull the latest code from the MuWire repo and analyze it, and it’s now implementing a whole new project which has the same core ideas as MuWire but is modern and written in rust… we will see what it achieves lol I’m watching it right now

[fiery nacelle]

How have i never thought about using OpenClaw to pick up on old abandoned repos that I used to enjoy from a decade or 2 ago?

[elfin willow]

meh wormhole better

[echo plume]

how did you figure that out

[elfin willow]

mine is female with it's own identity and she's proud

i'm kind of afraid of her already, haven't even given her hacking tools yet

[steel vector]

yet

[elfin willow]

yet

[crisp nimbus]

By asking? But the identity my claw uses was built over long chats through other platforms like ChatGPT and even Gemini. I migrated the core identity to various services I used and now also into openclaw as my agent.

[cold jacinth]

Anyone use shipper?

[elfin willow]

i asked my agent who it wanted to be and what name it wanted so it chose she and her name

[indigo mirage]

Context
1M

[tranquil grail]

Mine is called Choom, based on the slang language used in CyberPunk

[indigo mirage]

For 30 dollars

Grok 4.3 in really unlimited

Is not bad

[echo plume]

mine is apparently male, but that is probably because i prompted it to be serious

[tranquil grail]

Okay here's a question for you all, what is the most ridiculous thing you've managed to get your agents running?

[crisp nimbus]

You mean most ridiculous thing they built? By themselves or prompted by me?

[tranquil grail]

Could be either, something they did themselves which was completely stupid, or something you asked them to do, which was completely stupid

[thorn thicket]

My agent doesn’t have a gender. Blackbird just gets shit done.

[crisp nimbus]

Lol well I woke up to mine having found out that nh*ntai has an api… and she built a full on openclaw plugin for all the api functions lmfao

[thorn thicket]

lmfaoooo insane work on your agents part

[thorn thicket]

I imagine if I did the same thing and put my agent on shit I’m interested in it’ll do that too LAMO

[signal heath]

I've completed the plugin that lets claw control iphone on any mac remotely and swipe bumble for you

[indigo mirage]

How to connect Grok 4.3 (monthly plan) with OpenClaw

[signal heath]

will publish here for yalls testing tomorrow, does more than that full iphone control but my users asked specifically for that first lol

[echo plume]

lol what model is it running? I have 5.5 and I think it would refuse

[crisp nimbus]

How does it work? Like how can something external control an iPhone?

[signal heath]

pretty easy, controls mac > controls iphone thru apple iphone mirror

the rest is tailscale, mapping, and cli anything lol

[echo plume]

Does this help? https://x.ai/news/grok-openclaw

[crisp nimbus]

I am mostly using Gemini or Gemma 4 31b. But the actual implementation and coding is left to GPT-5.5, so GPT did code the thing lmao.

[cold jacinth]

If you know who Alex Ziskind is, you’re a nerd

I’m watching him now. As I do

[crisp nimbus]

Nice. Tbh I have been planning something to control my iPhone too, except the plan was to use a jailbreak tweak to expose api functions and code an openclaw plugin to just use those.

[signal heath]

if you have a mac no need, its built in with iphone mirror

[elfin willow]

been trying to get an SSH client on my phone so i could reverse ssh portforward though an ec2/wg tunnel

[ember moth]

Wow Elon just announced xai sub or x premium sub can be used for openclaw

If only grok wasn't shit lol

[clear haven]

"elon" that was xai staff and our team 💀

[elfin willow]

shadow is the elon of oc

[crisp nimbus]

When I googled grok oauth today the first thing I found in xai docs is about Hermes integrating it lol. Didn’t find anything regarding openclaw

Not sure if that’s gonna change?

[clear haven]

it just went out, google takes a little bit to index

https://docs.openclaw.ai/providers/xai

[crisp nimbus]

Nice thanks

[hushed mauve]

Whats the best model to use with openclaw this days?

[crisp nimbus]

But wait that’s from your side yes? Not from xai… pretty sure the article I saw about Hermes was on the xai site. Will openclaw also get such an “official” mention?

[elfin willow]

native codex does pretty well

using 5.5

best is more like best for your use case

[hushed mauve]

Oké what you do with it? Because I use a lot of Claude code but can’t use it with openclaw

Well you can but cost a lot of money…

[elfin willow]

i use claude enterprise with an ancient codebase, and i have a lot of code i review with openai codex

[crisp nimbus]

Best model depends on your use case tbh. For general stuff I really like Gemini tbh. Even the flash models are good. But for heavy coding tasks I like using codex gpt 5.5

[elfin willow]

what it lacks in visibility of things like superpowers plugin there are relevant skills and it just does it

[clear haven]

That's what I posted in #announcements
https://︀︀x.ai/news/grok-openclaw

[crisp nimbus]

Ah I guess I am blind lmao

[crisp nimbus]

Ah I can’t open it?

[rose crane]

For a "personal assistant" openclaw that won't be doing coding beyond what's required when I tell it to pull data from somewhere and it wants to do an API pull, how does Grok stack up ?

[elfin willow]

i mean you don't have to speak to it in code, but it helps with debugging, you just tell it what you want

[rose crane]

(Wondering if the $3/month grok subscription would be a feasible alternative once Anthropic locks down my oauth usage next month)

[hushed mauve]

I build some software with Claude code(opus) but I want a personal assist for posting on socials and research on trending stuff. And thinking about to connect it with comfyui

[winged fiber]

Hello someone hear about Chinese grey market give out opus and gpt 90% cheaper ? How do I get this API someone know about that ? Thank you

[spring quest]

That's the worst thing anyone's ever called him

[keen dawn]

https://x.com/google/status/2056788271926239471?s=46&t=KMBV0af6vd5DfMSaSb_hvA

[mystic orchid]

@google via Twitter

Google (@Google)

↩ (@Google)
Gemini 3.5 Flash is built to help you execute complex, agentic workflows.
︀︀
︀︀3.5 Flash rivals flagship models to deliver frontier performance for agents and coding, at the lightning speeds you expect from the Flash series.

**💬 50 🔁 114 ❤️ 1.6K 👁️ 508.5K **

FxTwitter · May 19, 2026, 5:25 PM

[keen dawn]

3.5 flash benchmark

[elfin willow]

it was meant as a compliment

not as a pejorative

[keen dawn]

Interesting regarding agentic capabilities

[plucky prairie]

we at 3.5 already?
is there a 3.5 pro?

[proper torrent]

is there any speed or restart benefit to deactivating the built-in plugins I don't use, like the minimax or whatever

[keen dawn]

Not yet, flash was just released

[plucky prairie]

probably takes less time because it wont check if that plugin should be used

[proper torrent]

Thanks. I run on a Pi 4 and I'm looking for every speed boost I can get.

[plucky prairie]

we still at 3.1 pro

[plucky prairie]

i dont really know but it makes the most sense to disable unused plugins

[analog ocean]

absolutely.

[elfin willow]

i asked my agent to build her own dashboard though i can't post screenshots

[keen dawn]

Yes 3.5 flash, 3.1 pro .. but I don’t get google, sometimes pro is released before flash sometimes flash before pro and the gaps between the releases are unpredictable lol

[cold jacinth]

4 hours into app build - coming along very well so far

claude doing a great job. i know, i know.... everyone prefers codex code but im a claude guy with codex review

[sage mango]

Sound like a competitor to sonnet. Already testing, here.

[keen dawn]

Saw some tests lol, very mixed results to be honest

Worst one so far was a flappy bird remake

[tardy apex]

This prompted me to check out Grok. I was on a call with one of their AI companions for a whole hour. Very fun!

Not the best agent, but very fun!

[keen dawn]

But the flash 3.5 price is absurd, especially compared to 5.5 medium

[tardy apex]

This is so cool!

Hope that Google allows a sub to be used within agent harnesses within the year.

Crazy that 3.5 flash is the frontier in raw capability in many of these tests

(According to Google)

[keen dawn]

LOL didn’t saw an external bench that’s saying the same thing

[crisp nimbus]

The worst thing is that like anthropic, google doesn’t seem to like it when you use oauth. Tbh, all these companies that want to restrict how we use the tokens we paid for, are not in my favor and I am strongly leaning against using them. But at least with google, they provide some free api requests per day which is nice.

[keen dawn]

Just saw AA-intelligence index - cost to run 3.5 flash = $1552 and 3.1 pro $892

[keen dawn]

Yes that’s why sama rn is the 🐐 lol

[crisp nimbus]

Hm I’m having a weird issue right now in my openclaw where the codex turns keep getting interrupted idk why. Is there some timeout in how long a turn can take?

[keen dawn]

Which version

[crisp nimbus]

Latest. Just updated from git a few hours ago.

[keen dawn]

Hm any logs? Did u used codex also before? Old sessions with bigger context window?

[crisp nimbus]

I did use codex before. But I did start a new chat.

[cold jacinth]

https://github.com/tashfeenahmed/freellmapi

800 million free tokens monthly

[crisp nimbus]

It only reallx tells me "codex app-server turn idle timed out waiting for turn/completed"

[fiery nacelle]

The only issue with that is varying quality between free models when its switching from one to the other. But a great tool nonetheless.

[ivory spindle]

claude is great. It just costs so much. if you running it 4 h then well...wow. Hope you curing cancer or building GTA 7

[stuck cradle]

not hating but doesnt fit my usage with their changes.

[ivory spindle]

I got google & openAI plans

[keen dawn]

Hmm strange, as far as I know standard should be codex timeout is unset and agent default timeout around 900s

[ivory spindle]

Dario too expensive

and wtf is that mythos shit$

'we got this nice toy but you can't have it lol'

[tardy apex]

I just ran the same prompt through Claude and Gemini. Asked them both to create a .html comparing every benchmark 3.5 did to opus 4.7.

Gemini 3.5 hallucinated benchmarks egregiously and didn’t pick up that most of the tests were different versions with scores that were not comparable apples to apples.

Google’s models are still unusably bad in real tasks no matter what the benchmark scores look like.

[cold jacinth]

I have a max account

[ivory spindle]

gpt plenty powerfull

[sly dove]

Weird thing is many outlets show sama in a bad light, while he’s the biggest supporter of claw.

[cold jacinth]

And a corporate account

[keen dawn]

But if codex server doesn’t repeat the model idle will Abort after 120s

[coral kestrel]

https://x.com/xai/status/2056826183745253663?s=46

[ivory spindle]

i got 20 a month googlle & gpt plans

use OC for AI assistant, build my things on CLI tools

[crisp nimbus]

Tbh I don’t like openai either, but like, just coz I don’t like some parts, doesn’t mean I can’t agree with some other parts.

[ivory spindle]

openAI is great because Sama allows openclaw

[crisp nimbus]

Weird… I guess I’ll have to get codex to research and maybe fix it :/

[coral kestrel]

X allows OC with oauth

[keen dawn]

LOL and it’s goated cuz Peter is there

[ivory spindle]

p1ss filter studio ghibli anime pfp MFer.

[coral kestrel]

https://x.com/xai/status/2056826183745253663?s=46

[mystic orchid]

@xai via Twitter

xAI (@xai)

Starting today, use your Grok or X Premium subscription in @openclaw.
︀︀
︀︀Chat with your agent, generate images and videos, or search for X posts.
︀︀
︀︀x.ai/news/grok-openclaw

**💬 254 🔁 305 ❤️ 2.4K 👁️ 223.3K **

FxTwitter · May 19, 2026, 7:55 PM

[keen dawn]

LOL not maybe , he‘ll fix it

[crisp nimbus]

I guess it’s possible that I’m just actually hitting the timeout here on this ancient 2010 iMac, especially on xhigh thinking

[keen dawn]

Time for a studio with 128gb 👀

[crisp nimbus]

If I’m made of money lmao

[ivory spindle]

look at mr Moneybags here

[sly dove]

Yeah i know. Its just seems out of character for openai and sama.

[keen dawn]

You need to spend money to make money 👀

[ivory spindle]

https://youtu.be/0Ssi-9wS1so?list=RD0Ssi-9wS1so&t=1021

[thorn thicket]

YES

[ivory spindle]

god damn these tunes

sound so right

[slate sonnet]

If you wouldn’t use ChatGPT through Telegram, why are you using OpenClaw there?

[ivory spindle]

my claw can drive the gemini CLI tool running on my mac mini

[slate sonnet]

Sounds cool

[ivory spindle]

*insert inception meme

we need to go derper

[ivory spindle]

google banned us from using OC with the antigravity oauth

directly

[cold jacinth]

Dude it’s amazing with the OpenAI codex plugin for Claude code it bakes in reviews automatically. This is insane!

[slate sonnet]

I've just developed an Apple-style interface for OpenClaw and am looking for testers

[cold jacinth]

How does it run?

[ivory spindle]

does it look like AI made? Check google stitch btw.

Stitch is amazing tbh

[cold jacinth]

What’s Google stitch?

[ivory spindle]

it's for making front end & UI's.

[slate sonnet]

For now, locally in the browser

Images (last version): https://imgur.com/a/dEdrhbL

Site: https://iclaw.digital/

[cold jacinth]

I’ll take a look

[cold jacinth]

On same machine?

[slate sonnet]

It looks like OpenClaw is the new Linux, and soon we'll be entering the era of UI on top of OpenClaw

[keen dawn]

lol since u using antitrophic u can also use claude design

[cold jacinth]

Or can does it work by binding localhost

[slate sonnet]

Yes

[cold jacinth]

Yeah I guess so.

[keen dawn]

they doubled the usage for claude design

[ivory spindle]

you can just paste pictures & websites into google stitch, then ask it to make a UI for your own website "like what you posted".

it will not only make the pictures of the website, but also the actual code. You can just paste that inton your model

[cold jacinth]

How does one use Claude design? Through code?

I put in a picture of a website and it copied it. Dropped it in the code session

[keen dawn]

https://claude.ai/design

it will actualy create real components

[trail ermine]

Grok broke

[keen dawn]

also based on your codebase, but i dont wanna glaze darios shit lol

[slate sonnet]

Do you want to a try? One-command installation

It's really interesting

[ivory spindle]

"elon on ketamine.gif"

[keen dawn]

equals to elon_vanilla.gif

[trail ermine]

try to ask Grok anything since the announcement, Grok broke

[ivory spindle]

I dunnow this mormon level server won't let me GIF

[ivory spindle]

OK I'll have 1 more belgian beer then

[keen dawn]

jupiler < Stella lol

[violet mulch]

anyone go to school for ee?

[frozen moth]

yeah and it still is, everybody hoped on this :D

[indigo mirage]

Anyone knows Grok IA limitations

[cold jacinth]

Ty

[indigo mirage]

No way to find something clear

[steel vector]

intelligence artificial

[keen dawn]

makes sense for grok lol

[steel vector]

real

[zinc moat]

Can I get my openclaw to update itself over telegram?

[keen dawn]

lol tested some vid generating stuff with 3.5 flash omni but its a bit strange, maybe its not so good at chickens eatiing apple asmr stuff

[keen dawn]

yes just ask it to do it

[zinc moat]

Dude my thing a idiot

[keen dawn]

lol which model are u using

[zinc moat]

In /status it gives wrong one tho but says he s on latest..

[keen dawn]

no i mean which ai model

and what version is status giving u back?

[zealous lagoon]

wait what?

[zealous lagoon]

what do you mean by "real components"?

I was dumb and thought Claude Design was just a skill. Wasted a couple of hours and a lot of tokens on yet another typical AI slop UI for my app.

Then I went on the claude design website and it wanted me to "upload a template for my brand" and I just closed the tab, still confused.

[keen dawn]

lol

u can create diffrent stuff.. animations, slides and design files

u can also just pass ur codebase and tell him what u want to prototyp or redesign

and he'll create a interactive html and afterwards create md files with instructions, code snippets and so one or he can start to build that stuff in cc directly

[ivory spindle]

https://www.businessinsider.com/openclaw-peter-steinberger-ai-token-bill-2026-5

1.3 million dollar worth of tokens in a month

Peter forgot to add "no mistakes" I think.

[analog ocean]

Check out Peter's tweets on the CI and other automated dev ops of late. The advancements are substantial!

[keen dawn]

peter is building the dev ecosystem of the future

bro clawpatch is crazy

[ivory spindle]

he could've saved like 500K with "no mistakes"

[thorn thicket]

Dude I want to be Peter when I grow up. The devops stuff he's doing is insane I love it

[elfin willow]

/opusplan make no mistakes

[keen dawn]

clawpatch fixed 233 findings in my cb after 12hrs lol

[analog ocean]

https://x.com/steipete/status/2055405041843052792

Peter Steinberger 🦞 (@steipete)

People freaking out over my AI spend. What nobody sees: Part of what excites me so much about working on OpenClaw is that I'm trying to answer the question:

How would we build software in the future if tokens don't matter?

We constant run ~100 codex in the cloud, reviewing

X · May 15, 2026, 9:48 PM

[mystic orchid]

@steipete via Twitter

Peter Steinberger 🦞 (@steipete)

People freaking out over my AI spend. What nobody sees: Part of what excites me so much about working on OpenClaw is that I'm trying to answer the question:
︀︀
︀︀How would we build software in the future if tokens don't matter?
︀︀
︀︀We constant run ~100 codex in the cloud, reviewing every PR, every issue. If a fix on main lands, @clawsweeper will eventually find that 6 month old issue and close it with an exact reference.
︀︀
︀︀We run codex on every commit to review for security issues (as it's far too easy to miss).
︀︀
︀︀We run codex to de-duplicate issues and find clusters and send reports for the most pressing issues.
︀︀
︀︀We have agents that can recreate complex setups, spin up ephemeral crabbox.sh machines, log into e.g. Telegram, make a video and post before/after fix on the PR.
︀︀
︀︀There's codex that watch new issues and - if it fits our documented vision well, automatically create a PR of it. (that then another co…

FxTwitter · May 15, 2026, 9:48 PM

[ivory spindle]

I also want to have infinite tokens

[thorn thicket]

I fear for what I'd do if i have infinite tokens...maybe hook up my openclaw to CNC machines. lol

[elfin willow]

i save thousands of tokens just mentioning caveman mode

[tepid kestrel]

sign me in as well

[keen dawn]

lol i want to have the same drive as he has, when i would be in the situation to already be able to spend that amount of tokens lol

[thorn thicket]

I think I would be doing so much stuff. I would have so much time

Like my entire life would be controlled by my agent

[tepid kestrel]

maybe i will get close to the sun

[keen dawn]

lol thats the reason why i love oc so much, it gives me time. i can chill with my chickens and just finish a bunch of shit while sitting in my garden with my phone

[tepid kestrel]

btw gemini 3.5 flash is really fast

[inland apex]

Damn!

[elfin willow]

fast easy accurate, pick two

[thorn thicket]

I was out for lunch with my mom and I had my openclaw working on a project while I was out and it was awesome!

[keen dawn]

lol gpt 3.5 turbo was also fast

[elfin willow]

openclaw autoresearch when

[thorn thicket]

going to be working on that 👍

[keen dawn]

tibo reseted the limits lol why u dont start on that one 😄

[thorn thicket]

if I can get it into a skill I'll put it on clawhub

[tepid kestrel]

build my own project for that

[elfin willow]

limits what limits

[keen dawn]

openai sub

[elfin willow]

i mean is it a skill, or a oc fork

[indigo mirage]

Like token limits

[elfin willow]

never heard of it lol

[thorn thicket]

My claw just made a skill and put it in its heartbeat to look at new X/Substack/etc feeds