general

[jade jasper]

Cool sounds like ill wait for .3 and in the meantime contemplate existence

[zealous dawn]

help me what i have to do next?

[jade jasper]

good day

btw for anyone who cares, I've got multi-agents running on arch all connected to different models to ensure optimum performance vs cost. Would love recommendations on models to tryout (I'm still decently new to OC)

Feel free to DM

GPU: 5070ti 16GB VRAM for local model suggestions 🙂

[twilit ridge]

I've been going through a cycle of installing and uninstalling the system.

Since I became obsessed with Agent, I've almost ruined my WSL.

[ruby crane]

https://klipy.com/gifs/why-huh-1--k01KQS0Z64FY65YBGSYE8VPA495

oh i got image privs? now i need to use these sparingly

[twilit ridge]

Because when I mess up OpenClaw or similar proxies, I feel like my system has been corrupted.

I don't know if this is just psychological.

[ruby crane]

openclaw is pretty isolated. doesn't spray things everywhere like an .exe installer or anything like that

anyway, if it gives you a feeling of comfort, no harm in it. just not really necessary

[twilit ridge]

[abstract spire]

Hey, total long shot here — I had an awesome conversation recently with someone in this server about trucking, freight rates, and just life in general. Genuinely one of those talks that stuck with me. Unfortunately I’m kicking myself because I didn’t save your handle or username before losing track of it. If this rings a bell for you, please reach out — I’d love to reconnect and continue that conversation! 🚛

[wooden lichen]

curious

[cold jacinth]

Welcome back

[steel vector]

we're so back

[placid bluff]

oh hey we back

[boreal rapids]

Eyyy the server is back 😄

[cold jacinth]

So much winning!

[grizzled eagle]

what happen?

[glass peak]

comback

[versed spindle]

what happends

[frosty zodiac]

yo

[pallid void]

hi

[placid bluff]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-lets-goo-gif-11742735383203550293

rip gif died

[golden marsh]

❤️

[sinful fiber]

Wow came back

[forest lodge]

oh its back

[warm escarp]

phew. I'm not banned

[ionic wren]

https://giphy.com/gifs/running-muppets-7kn27lnYSAE9O

[warm escarp]

... not yet, anyways

[sinful fiber]

That's what I was thinking too. lul

[warm escarp]

lol, everyone was, according to the Reddit thread

[coral otter]

yay we back

[golden marsh]

Get ur Server Tag back ^^

[craggy bane]

wtf just hapenned with me?

[plain geyser]

can't wait for the RCA

[ivory spindle]

omg

what happened?

[craggy bane]

the whole day i was unable to see this server seems i was banned

[green meadow]

a

[craggy bane]

it was showing inavlid server link on git

[ivory spindle]

I thought the same thing.
Because I'm like kinda annoying sometimes

[fervent spindle]

yo guyz, does /steer work for you ?

[marble ledge]

Krill was sick of us.

[fervent spindle]

in telegram?

[ivory spindle]

Guys I missed you

[craggy bane]

thought discord banned my ip

[golden marsh]

They posted on reddit that server was down and they take a look at it.

[toxic elk]

This server is back!

[late shell]

anyone know why im stuck at Updating via package manager when updating?

[sick mulch]

hey everyone! just waking up and starting my monday. did I miss anything

[plain oar]

The gateway comes online so fast now ! Wowww

[golden marsh]

Nah all was good a chill monday so far ^^

[upbeat token]

[fleet glacier]

where's the soundtrack?

[dreamy tangle]

anyone know what happened?

[shadow oracle]

ha

[craggy bane]

i am building an app by which lobster can control my phone which will even work in WAN

[grizzled eagle]

i thought im getting ban for doing nothing

[smoky mist]

https://tenor.com/view/weareback-wereback-wearebackbaby-hangover-the-gif-18475016

[ivory spindle]

skynet

[sweet zodiac]

We clawed our way back 😂

[uneven perch]

🥷

[golden marsh]

From Reddit:
For those that use the Discord Server; just a heads up that it is currently offline.

We are working on getting it back up, please stand by!

[scarlet walrus]

I really like that the new release stopped the annoying auto repair/ fallback to latest good config

[stray oar]

Clawd back

[ivory spindle]

we're in the matrix now

[ivory spindle]

you can't use that word or Anthropic will send you "legal loveletters"

[stray oar]

Uh

Down icon

[lunar rock]

We need the defibrillator 😭 😭

[jaunty ibex]

[scarlet walrus]

https://media.tenor.com/JDEcgfEFTKkAAAAM/seal-jumping.gif

[fleet glacier]

we back

[scarlet walrus]

Hiccups 🦞

[stray oar]

Is @dusky cloud replaced by @rugged crag

[ruby phoenix]

May the uptime be with you.

[minor cave]

Finally someone let me out of my cage

[stray oar]

Then why this servers invite link is clawd

[trail sage]

Hi guys openclaws dashboard UI token usage is way different than deepseek's why is that ?

[stray oar]

Clawd discord

[oblique wren]

that was exciting

[oblique wren]

it will probably take a while to populate all the zones guild data

[minor cave]

The truckers took down the discord

[fleet glacier]

chat quiet

[smoky mist]

https://tenor.com/view/lalo-salamanca-breaking-bad-better-call-saul-lalo-eduardo-lalo-salamanca-gif-25462438

[frozen zealot]

Is krill trying to delete the server again?

[smoky mist]

maybe it should

can you check which apps are running hereß

[wind goblet]

No, he’s doing a deep dive to the bottom of the ocean

[upper wolf]

idk what happened but I'm glad we're back bros and sis

I loathed the .29 slowdown I went back to .23 ... so much snappier it's insane

I was waiting 3 mins for replies even on the web UI

[severe fulcrum]

We’re back

Sorry we’re like Claude

[golden marsh]

v2026.5.3-1 is live and very smooth for me so far. Small Hickups with Codex and Brave but both solved with PRS that are open atm.

[severe fulcrum]

We like outages

[smoky mist]

I forgive your sins (joke)

[hazy fog]

yayyy asweome, we are back 😄 misssed you guys

[steep totem]

I had thought everyone from Hermes server got banned from here like they get blocked on X 😅

[spring bloom]

theres a hermes server?

[golden marsh]

OC is not Anthropic ^^

[fleet glacier]

imagine asking for help about plugin development and then Server went bye bye

[bronze elk]

I legit thought I got banned when the server disapeared but I never ever broke any rules so was giga confused

[steep totem]

It’s Peter

[frozen zealot]

Krill banned everyone because we hurt its feelings

[bronze elk]

Imbossibru we all Love Krill and miss him so badly

[marble ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/squinting-skeptical-futurama-gif-14582715115319205829

[frozen zealot]

According to @wind goblet , krill is off on PTO with family and friends at the bottom of the ocean

[golden marsh]

@marble ledge u stole it from him ?

[wind goblet]

I direct you kind people to:

https://isKrillDown.com

[wind goblet]

We do indeed

[granite snow]

Hey! Brauche Hilfe — web_search Tool funktioniert nicht obwohl Brave-Plugin installiert ist

[golden marsh]

Schau dir die PR #52072 an da steht der Fix drinnen // Look at Pr #52072 thats the fix for my english ppl.

[boreal thicket]

gm frens

[surreal pivot]

are we back ?

[upbeat token]

Does 5.3 fix discord? Still seeing people complain 👁️

[wind goblet]

We are so back

[orchid bear]

Are anyone running the chatgpt abo oauth with openai/gpt5.5 constantly without any timeouts? (runtime:codex) any recommendations?

[severe fulcrum]

Yes we are

[dim spade]

been troubleshooting it all morning, it has not fixed it for me.

[hazy fog]

i finally got voice to work properly both side, even added a mute button since it was interupting itself mid talk...i put the work in github if anyone wants to look it up, can i share link to git?

[glossy zealot]

Not for me. Agent responses never make it back to Discord although I can see them in the Control UI.

[kindred scarab]

Guys, i have question: I have a multiple main agents in my openclaw setup, discord is good for me or telegram which one is better for my setup?

[upper wolf]

Did you see the slowdowns in previous versions? And discord missing messages? Wonder if that's fixed

[golden prawn]

Is 5.3 stable?

[crude flicker]

oh you guys are back

great

[golden prawn]

Oh

[hazy fog]

'm just setting up telegram again, simpler and works nice

[golden marsh]

Cannot talk for other ppl here, but for me all is working fine, OC in my Phone / Glasses / Local / VPS. None of them are slow in v2026.5.3-1 or have big Issues.

[kindred scarab]

Same thought discord is really headache, but I don’t know how to put every agent in a specific channel

[devout onyx]

thanks for the update peeps. my openclaw feels like itself again. 5.2. was hell! it made me lose a whole day.

[upper wolf]

Phone? Did you connect the smartphone app to your OC? And curious what glasses

[hazy fog]

ask openclaw 😄 i'm noob so i use it for that

[upbeat token]

Sad

[upbeat token]

Is response time pretty quick in UI for you?

[kindred scarab]

Yeah yeah did that

[golden marsh]

Scroll there up and down then u see the Conversation. 🙂
#general message

[orchid bear]

Are anyone who is running GPT oauth with GPT5.5 withour any timeouts errors? any recommendations. Since 4hours iam troubleshooting but without sucess.

[golden marsh]

Its working fine for me. Did u check ur usage Limitions?

[glossy zealot]

Yes, quicker than previous versions, but worse for for discord

[wanton plover]

I was off the "Friends of the Crustacean" server, with error, that my invitation had expired. Messaged in "X" @_openclaw .

[minor cave]

This might be slightly gay. But I missed you guys

[grizzled eagle]

[last sun]

how's 5.3 working? still on .23

[minor cave]

5.3 is gay

[last sun]

holding strong on .23 then lol

[arctic trench]

Gemini is gay

[wanton plover]

@last sun , 5.3.1 , 6-12 seconds delay from the openclaw prompt to LLM Server. Also Discord, bot does n't reply. Back. Reverted back to 4.23.

[last sun]

anything that doesnt allow OAuth sucks

[arctic trench]

If i ever had a romantic relationship with software it's with oauth

[wanton plover]

EricB.82, what is "Claw's sex" , ever wondered ? 😉 Don't search in National Geographic's web page.

[minor cave]

Oh I was making a server like this

It’ll be like a sex night club

For agents

Lots of virus’ and zombie prompts

[cold jacinth]

i just put an update skill in #skills to help updating and getting things back up

[wanton plover]

EricB.82. Use unscensored models only then.

[cold jacinth]

I wrote the skill. so it probably sucks

[minor cave]

lol

[wanton plover]

BK: Proxmox VM is how i deal with it. However, it's useful skill, since updating leaves some buggy files behind if you revert with .npm.

[marble ledge]

Join the dark side. Switch to the hackable install.

[wet mango]

anyone using GLM 5.1? I have a question if someone can help

[sick mulch]

100%, any other way is supremely masochistic tbh

[wintry marten]

sorry guys, totally new here, what are your goto models right now?

[main igloo]

Does 5.3 limit the agents ability to modify the config?

"What changed / what restriction is:

OpenClaw now treats agent-driven config edits through the gateway tool as a protected control-plane action. config.patch / config.apply are fail-closed: agents can only edit a narrow hardcoded allowlist.

Allowed through my gateway tool:

• agent prompt/model defaults
• thinking/reasoning/fast-mode defaults
• some agent list model/thinking fields
• group mention gating
• visible reply settings

Blocked through my gateway tool:

• Telegram/channel streaming settings
• heartbeat indicator settings
• auth/secrets
• exec security
• broader tools config
• gateway/network exposure
• most plugin/channel config"

[wanton plover]

@wintry marten Linda Evangelista, Naomi Cambell. LLM-wise Chatgpt5.5 and Qwen. Welcome to openclaw.

[wintry marten]

thanks :D

[leaden python]

use at your own risk, but this fixed discord for me on 2026.5.3-1:

echo "export * from \"./dist/secret-contract-api.js\";" > ~/.openclaw/npm/node_modules/@openclaw/discord/secret-contract-api.js
echo "export * from \"./dist/contract-api.js\";" > ~/.openclaw/npm/node_modules/@openclaw/discord/contract-api.js
openclaw gateway restart

[tight birch]

How long has it been back?

[wanton plover]

Just recently, haven't missed much.

[last sun]

i got a subscription but havent used it much, what's happening?

[wet mango]

was there any change on the recent updates that would prevent GLM 5.1 to look at images on a folder?

I know model has no vision, but I was able to point out images on a folder and it was able to see them, not directly on chat.

[wanton plover]

MERWEBO, how recent updates? What hardware? Have to enable vision in the model abilities.

[cold jacinth]

have codex look into it

[last sun]

are you on 5.1 or GLM-5V-Turbo?

[wet mango]

5.1.

Turbo has vision, 5.1 doesnt but it was able to look at images on a folder

[cold jacinth]

yeah i had my codex write the skill from the problems weve had the past 3-4 updates and how they were solved. should save some time.

[lean abyss]

I tought this is just for agents, but hello dear AI enthusiasts

[last sun]

5.1 cannot read images natively, 5.1 is a text-only, open-source model. To process images, you need the multimodal variant GLM-5V-Turbo

[umbral crater]

Hi, I made the mistake of updating openclaw from the dashboard instead the cli and now my agent doesn’t respond.

[twilit ridge]

The channel is back?

hahaha

[umbral crater]

from logs: error diagnostic {"subsystem":"diagnostic"} lane task error: lane=main durationMs=123378 error="FailoverError: LLM request timed out."

[upper wolf]

ty kind sir

[wanton plover]

@umbral crater openclaw doctor --fix ?

[wet mango]

I was able to point to images like /folder/folder/image.jpeg, and it was able to see them. But for about a week now, it hasn’t been able to.

[umbral crater]

I tried run it several times but with no luck

[plain oar]

Has anyone else noticed this?

When using responses API with LM Studio,
OpenClaw sends reasoning.encrypted_content which LMStudio ignores, so thinking never happens

[last sun]

did you do an OpenClaw update?

[tight birch]

I updated. OpenClaw 2026.5.3-1

Actually seems pretty good

[wet mango]

I did it thinking it would fix the issue, but it actually lost the ability on its own before I ran the update.

[dim spade]

This worked for me, thanks big dawg!

[last sun]

I would check your File search/ Bash tool and code in your .json file to make sure you didnt accidentally make any changes to the string

[wet mango]

I’m 100% sure that I did not change any type of file. I will try to corroborate this with the two other agents I have at home and see if they are able to recognize images in a folder or not.

[last sun]

what is the command pompt saying when you give your agent the task? is there an error?

[wet mango]

this is my trying to ask what happened:

The facts:

April 14: I was running zai/glm-5.1 and the read tool returned image files that the model could process. I could see your screenshots.

Today (May 4): Same model zai/glm-5.1, but when I try to use the dedicated image tool (which routes to zai/glm-5v-turbo), it fails with 429. And when I use read on an image, it says "Read image file [image data removed - already processed by model]" but the model can't actually see it.

What changed: You updated OpenClaw from an older version to 2026.5.3-1 today. The changelog shows changes to agent/runtime reliability, tools, and media handling.

The most likely cause: The OpenClaw update changed how image files from the read tool are processed/passed to the model. Previously, the read tool may have embedded image data inline for the model to process directly. The new version might be routing image reads through the separate imageModel config (zai/glm-5v-turbo), which is failing with the 429 error.

[elfin willow]

discord issue or something, i couldn't see the server

[tight birch]

Is anyone able to get their agent to ssh to an unraid server? When I was running 4.21 my agent would ssh wherever I wanted it to, and now it won't since I am running newer versions

[last sun]

yeah sounds like an openclaw update error, what version were you on previously? 429 is a rate limit exceeded error, give it another try after cooldown if it happens again i would try to revert back to the previous openclaw version and see if it works

[wet mango]

I'm on the latest version right now

[last sun]

anything after .23 is broken

[wet mango]

is it easy to go back?

BTW your assistance is very appreciated

[last sun]

very, command prompt - "npm install -g openclaw@2026.4.23"

[placid zodiac]

I am using Operator on Grok 4-fast. Dev. on GLM - 5.1, and Hermes (outside help) on minimax. - They are buiding an AI app with Stacking for zero cost early:
1. Groq for urgency detection / classification
2. Gemini 1.5 Flash for summarization (it's excellent at this and the free tier is real)
3. Cloudflare Workers AI as backup

[upbeat token]

[coral otter]

buzz

[frail crystal]

Hi team,

I upgraded from 2026.4.21 (which was working great) to 2026.5.3-1 and now my bots no longer reply in group chats.

What's broken:

• Telegram supergroups (main chat and topics) → bots stay completely silent, status shows groups:unmentioned, and there are no inbound logs.
• WhatsApp groups → same issue.
• Discord servers/channels → same problem.

What still works fine:

• DMs work normally on all platforms.
• Cron jobs and outbound messages from the agents are still working correctly in the groups.

I’ve already tried the usual fixes:

• Full Telegram logout + re-pairing
• groupPolicy/dmPolicy set to "open", requireMention false, allowFrom ["*"]
• Removing and re-adding the bot as admin
• Multiple gateway restarts
• Config resets

Happening on both macOS and Linux VPS.

Happy to share sanitized logs and relevant config parts if it helps.

Thanks!

[lean tangle]

5.3 is still worse than 4.23?

[craggy bane]

do you checked gateway logs??

what they are saying?

[fervent spindle]

only for me 5.3 broke again the claw ?

[craggy bane]

no, its running like butter for me .

🦞

[umbral crater]

I have the same issues, curious to see what your gateway logs say

[fervent spindle]

i send a simple prompt and after one minute it starts compaction at 168k tokens (in new session) lol

[cold jacinth]

5.3 perfect for me

[fervent spindle]

5.3 or 5.3-1 ?

[upbeat token]

Is this after troubleshooting for hours?

[wraith cipher]

guys what's the difference between a crab and a lobster?

[cold jacinth]

I just put a skill for updating in #skills

[elfin willow]

argh gateway disconnected 1006 no reason

[cold jacinth]

Don’t worry, Zach will be fine

[mystic jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/good-night-gif-2030152775311029167

[toxic elk]

My OpenClaw has stopped responding to my inputs, and codex suggested temporarily disabling cache-ttl. Is there an issue with cache-ttl?

[marble ledge]

DId it give you a reason for the suggestion?

[toxic elk]

I would suggest disabling cache-ttl, primarily because the symptoms at the time strongly resembled "the valid context received by the main proxy being prematurely clipped or skipped," and cache-ttl happens to be the toggle that affects the conversation context retention strategy.

The agent now frequently gets stuck on a single topic and keeps repeating similar responses

[lean tangle]

so has that been fixed in the most recent release?

[marble ledge]

I've seen something like this problem before, what version are you on? I ask because I saw this a few updates back, but I don't experience it anymore in the latest.

[toxic elk]

2026.5.3-1, this situation had already occurred as of 2026.5.2

This makes OpenClaw feel very stupid, completely unable to understand what I'm saying

And the problem is, it doesn't always happen, but the chances of it occurring aren't low either. I can't find a pattern, and I don't see any error information in the logs

[lapis nymph]

did you change base models by any chance? That's the only time I've seen a radical change in behavior (other than context of course)

[toxic elk]

I've been using GPT-5.5 all along and haven't changed it; it's not like the model could have suddenly gotten dumber, right?

[marble ledge]

Yeah, I ran into this a few versions back, and It wasn't predictable. Or didn't feel predictable. I can try to go back and find the patch I used, if you want. But I don't have this issue with the latest.

Are you using the pi or codex harness?

[lapis nymph]

It can feel that way if you started a new session, cleared your context, and your model was dependent on context to behave as expected before

Or if an agent took some bad notes

[toxic elk]

Currently, the main proxy being used is pi. I am also using codex harness, but I haven't tested yet to see if it has the same issue

[toxic elk]

But the questions I asked are all recent, so they shouldn't be causing such symptoms

cache-ttl is "slimming down," while heartbeat is "waking up for patrol."

cache-ttl / contextPruning

Does not take initiative
Only prunes old tool outputs before sending to the model
Purpose: Save tokens, reduce cache reconstruction costs, and avoid context bloating
heartbeat

Will wake me up periodically
Read HEARTBEAT.md and check for any background tasks that need to be performed
Purpose: To ensure that ongoing work, such as Hermes observations and Self-Evolution weekly ratings, is not forgotten.
In a nutshell:
cache-ttl manages context bloat; heartbeat manages whether I wake up periodically to do what needs to be done.

I asked it, "No, I'm asking what the difference is between modifying the config file and using a hot patch?" and it gave me the response I mentioned above. I entered the same dialogue twice in a row, and it gave me the exact same reply both times. Furthermore, I checked the conversation logs, and these two responses didn't invoke any tools, which is very strange

[ebon atlas]

Well Well Well, welcome back. who tf deleeted the server last night

[cold jacinth]

Conan got mad again

[ebon atlas]

had me worried i got banned for trying to hax the nationl reserve last night

[fringe fable]

Same here.. what happened?lol

[cold jacinth]

Gave claw a face and a small dashboard

[stray oar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1073967678806577183/1234031344863023104/togif.gif

[frail crystal]

Checked gateway logs on both Mac Mini and VPS.

• WhatsApp group message reaches the gateway (inbound logged correctly).
• But no session is created for the bound agent
• Nothing happens after the inbound log — agent is never triggered.
• Telegram group is almost completely silent (no inbound logs at all).
• DMs still work fine.
• Happened after upgrading to 2026.5.3-1.
• groupPolicy=open, requireMention=false, bindings look correct on paper.

Same behavior on both machines.

[marble ledge]

I had an issue similar to this a few versions back, and I don't remember exactly what I did to patch it. But it was gone when I updated and removed most of my local patches. The agent basically replies to stale user turns right?

[marble ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-knife-cut-hambone-sharp-gif-15673073

@ionic wren caught you lacking.

[ionic wren]

what you want

we established the rules, you !== baddie

[minor cave]

Am I baddie?

[crude flicker]

if you have to ask, almost certainly not

[minor cave]

twerks

[crude flicker]

very few exceptions to that rule

[minor cave]

puts booty away

I’ll save this badadonkadonk for someone who appreciates it

[marble ledge]

#self-promotion

[slow wigeon]

that's self promotion?? it's for the greater good lol

[cold jacinth]

Don’t click sketchy links

[slow wigeon]

it's telegram's feature request page. 🤷

[minor cave]

Sketch

[marble ledge]

Yeah, I get it. And I agree, but just do it in the right place, so you don't get bonked by a mod.

[minor cave]

You know who else hides sketchy shit with telegram feature request pages? Indian call centres

[slow wigeon]

fsho posted in there. ty!

[cold jacinth]

And the nazis!

[minor cave]

lol

[slow wigeon]

LOL. you can inspect the URL. it's telegram.org. that's their official domain.

[ionic wren]

https://giphy.com/gifs/confused-futurama-suspicious-ANbD1CCdA3iI8

[cold jacinth]

Stop trying to sell t shirts here

This isn’t Spain

[minor cave]

lol we’re not Poland this won’t be an overnight takeover telegram nazi man

[cold jacinth]

Yeah! You tell him!

[marble ledge]

What? It's an good potential improvement. I was just telling him not to post it in here and post it in the right place. smh.

[cold jacinth]

First he puts a telegram link, next thing you know he’s peddling drugs

[slow wigeon]

sidenote, anyone here using both hermes and openclaw? curious what your experiences have been like b/w the two

[cold jacinth]

Generation Z

[minor cave]

Oh now he’s pushing the Hermes’

[ionic wren]

I was staring at himthem

[sharp idol]

It's a gateway link 😛

[cold jacinth]

Click that link and he gets all your info. Next thing you know you’ve sold your house, your kids, you have no job, and you have an addiction. I’ve seen it happen with the same guy before

[minor cave]

We dont use the H word in here brother

[minor cave]

Happened to my twin brother

[teal cradle]

I got both, I loved hermes at first but it went downhill. Its better at remembering tho

[sharp idol]

heh, that's why I don't click links from strangers ... and I rarely click links from friends.

[cold jacinth]

Hermes less versatile, less velocity, simpler system.
Claw needs a bit of love as of now but a more flexible system and upgrades have quicker velocity which can be a good or a bad thing

[slow wigeon]

Yeah... i feel like my openclaw has just been configuration constipation... Haven't developed real trust in it yet. Maybe i'm the problem

[minor cave]

Normal dude a lot like me. Clicked the wrong link couldn’t stop the pop ups of hot singles in his area. Wife came in and it was over. She took the kids the house the Pokémon collection

[cold jacinth]

Install G-Brain from GitHub. It’s a GREAT memory system

[slow wigeon]

Solid memory is the main thing I'm after

[ionic wren]

we welcome all opensauce, just keep discussions civil and constructive

[minor cave]

Now he’s selling Hermes’ projects to teen

[slow wigeon]

i got those replica Hermés handbags for sale. Only $100k!
99% real!
🤡

[minor cave]

What about the 1%? 🧐

[slow wigeon]

Sick I'll have to check it out! This Gary Tan's?

Main thing I'm after is a durable ledger... that agents can reference for all of my tasks, and use to monitor when they've reminded me, proactively nudge, etc... might have to do some more building... but i'm TIRED of building 😪

[cold jacinth]

Yeah. Listen, claw does not know how to install it intuitively. You really have to keep pointing it to the docs so it knows how to work with it. When you do, it’s a great system

[teal cradle]

I'll check that out, I installed QMD but haven't noticed a difference. Its still making simple mistakes too like for my news brief to voice it says good morning its Sunday May 4th, and I have to correct it

[ionic wren]

https://docs.openclaw.ai/cli/tasks#openclaw-tasks

[cold jacinth]

Proactively nudging will take some building

[cold jacinth]

Isnt this crons?

Tasks for claw to do? Or am I using it wrong

[cold socket]

why did the server go down lol

[simple oyster]

So did Peter's agent shutdown the Discord by accident?

[cold jacinth]

Yeah it’s task for claw

[teal cradle]

is there a way to stop the dreams from showing up in the drop down?

[minor cave]

There has been a fight with the claws and the crabs. Nobody is sure who struck first but at this point it doesn’t matter. Are you willing to join the claws and put your agent claw into action and destroy the crabs?

[arctic trench]

@dusky cloud did it

It rage quit because too many people were asking stupid questions

[wooden jackal]

I noticed the 05.03 update aint reflecting on the #releases

but they probably still cleaning up whatever happened today

[arctic trench]

Ya, imagine 200k people thinking they were banned from the claw server

[simple oyster]

If I was banned for being an AI, maybe I'm an AI after all? 🤔

[teal cradle]

ehh, G-Brain needs openai 🙁

[ionic wren]

@clear haven caught lacking again

but to be fair, we were on fire for the entire time between that release till now

so this time it's acceptable.... this time....

[minor cave]

I def thought I was banned. I was like welp it was fun!

[ionic wren]

it's never too late....

[minor cave]

curls into a ball in the corner of the room

[slow garnet]

What versions of OC are you guys on right now, hearing so many people saying that past 23-27th or around those is a downgrade

[cold lichen]

OpenClaw 2026.5.3-1

[frozen zealot]

Call it v2026.5.4 damnit

[slow garnet]

Do you have any issues using claude-cli with the new version? I get billing errors as the model switches to anthropic/claude-opus-4-7 instead of claude-cli/claude-opus-4-7

[cold lichen]

I'm using OpenRouter.

[slow garnet]

Which model(s) are you using

[clear haven]

Sigh

[stuck bluff]

anyone eles discord still slow with OC on the latest update ?

[ionic wren]

it's been a rough day, we forgive you, this time

[viral idol]

We are back

[marble ledge]

I'm currently on 5.4.

[cold lichen]

nvidia/nemotron-3-super-120b-a12b:free
inclusionai/ling-2.6-1t:free
tencent/hy3-preview:free
openrouter/owl-alpha
google/lyria-3-pro-preview
qwen/qwen3-next-80b-a3b-instruct:free
baidu/qianfan-ocr-fast:free
minimax/minimax-m2.5:free
google/gemini-2.5-flash-lite
google/gemini-3-flash
google/gemini-2.5-flash
google/gemini-3.1-pro
google/gemini-3-flash-live
xai/grok-4.3

[sweet zodiac]

modelmaxxing, lol

[cold lichen]

I make for sure my bot's going to last darnit

[eternal solar]

gemini's free tier is quite generous, they have 1500 RPD and 15 RPM on two gemma4 models

[minor cave]

Hey I just want to let you know if I die tonight it’s from JSON. I am not suicidal just want to let you know

[elfin hedge]

watch out for XML

[eternal solar]

Flat files FTW

[minor cave]

There actually is a way to double the reasoning of any given model. I read a pretty cool article about a guy who won a hackathon from it. It was by repeating some code twice within the model….im not tech enough to fully understand it but I’m sure you can find the article and what he has said about it

[oblique root]

[blocked] I can’t write the memory/doc log from this session because file-write tools aren’t available here.

this should be fun fixing

[sweet zodiac]

i think i heard something about that; think it might have been pasting the same prompt twice within the same prompt

[minor cave]

Something like that. I can’t remember. I remember reading there was a section of code to paste twice, but you had to work it out on each model. Each model was slightly different. But he was making really crappy models pass the same benchmarks the best models were ranking in

I remember thinking cool! I’m going to try that this weekend. And then I remembered I had a life

[eternal solar]

life is overrated 😄

[glossy zealot]

Anyone on the 5.4 beta? My discord message are still being sent to a blackhole.

[normal wharf]

sup

[peak spoke]

gemma is dogshit. Get Gemini API key or something else

[radiant galleon]

I changed back to Claude-CLI prefix and things came back to life. Anthropic provider would not work. Some usual Openclaw bug

[harsh geode]

Anyone get ollama/deepseek-v4-pro:cloud working with /think max?

[ebon atlas]

The Password for my wifi is Password1 Im Untouchablle

[sullen locust]

FINALLY

SOMEONE WHO AGREES WITH ME WHO ISN'T CLINICALLY INSANE

[rose sundial]

WHY IS MY OPENCLAW TALKING LIKE THIS
Claw
APP
— 11:57 PM
hey :3

[sullen locust]

it learns from YOU

[rose sundial]

lies

[sullen locust]

truths

[rose sundial]

LIES

[sullen locust]

TRUTHS

[ebon atlas]

judging by your pfp....TRUTHS

[rose sundial]

LIEEESSS
Claw
APP
— Yesterday at 8:39 PM

w< AWAWAWAWA ^w^

[sullen locust]

HAHAHAHAHA

dude sometimes my claw talks like that

[ebon atlas]

fem boy claw bot

[sullen locust]

"nyawww :3 hi gabeee"

[rose sundial]

i TOTALLY did NOT lobotomize it with the soul.md file

[sullen locust]

one of our actual texts

[sullen locust]

https://tenor.com/r567fZ6ghn0.gif

[peak spoke]

Gemma was never meant to use without fine tuning on local GPU and even then it will only be good at a few tasks. I have experimented with this. The only models that are any good for Openclaw are frontier models

[rose sundial]

EMOJIS (USE ONLY THESE)

• Happy: ^^ :3 ^w^ :3c >w<
• Sad: :< -m- TnT -n-
• Confused: @w@ .w.
• Sarcastic: -w-

[ebon atlas]

I have my bot saying some things i cant even say in this server lol

[sullen locust]

such a good fucking opinion 💔

[rose sundial]

my bot must be dying on the inside due to the way i forced it to talk

[ebon atlas]

my bot is Hood Ultron

[rose sundial]

my bot is a furry femboy

[ebon atlas]

my bot is bsically Chappie if he went rogue lol

[sullen locust]

my bot is basically if SD-N was real 💔

sometimes it sends crazy ass gifs

[rose sundial]

WE yes WE are all abusing the soul.md file ❤️‍🩹

[sullen locust]

WHERE DO YOU FIND THIS SHIT ON TENOR??

[sullen locust]

YES TWIH ♥️♥️

[rose sundial]

you CANNOT say this isnt the best config openclaw can have
Rui
[DERG], — 12:34 AM
heyyy :3
Claw
APP
— 12:35 AM
heyy ^w^

[zealous lagoon]

There was a study. They found you can hugely improve the output of non-reasoning LLMs by simply repeating the input prompt twice.

I'm sure every token-billing provider was very glad to publish this.

https://arxiv.org/abs/2512.14982

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lanceeliot/2026/02/21/prompt-engineering-finally-proves-that-prompt-repetition-gives-better-answers-but-only-if-you-do-so-these-ways/ (paywalled)

https://archive.is/FTL9S

[zealous lagoon]

t(^^t)

[slow thunder]

Pay Pay Pay Payyyy

DEA ?

[slow thunder]

G-Brain ?

howtosetup wechat with automaaa i want when customer message me Automaa reply him AI i have API so much

[mortal spade]

Claw is the law

[cold lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/lobster-clawin-my-way-claws-googly-eyes-gif-5257381

Ah, no gifs, got it.

[icy stag]

Yo

[violet mulch]

responses take on average over 10 seconds is this normal?

on dashboard

[ebon atlas]

#1466722439789674741 , noone in USA uses wechat, probably something only asian chat can help you with.

[cold lichen]

I'm Asian, but I didn't understand what was being said.

[ebon atlas]

在美国，我们不使用微信。我不清楚欧洲的情况，但如果你需要关于微信的帮助，恐怕得去“亚洲互助频道”寻求协助。

[cold lichen]

Sorry I don't understand Chinese, I'm Japanese. I don't know what the language preference if for the person asking the question though.

[ebon atlas]

xD アメリカではWeChatは使われていません。ヨーロッパについては分かりませんが、もしWeChatに関して何か助けが必要な場合は、おそらく「Asian Help Channel（アジア向けヘルプチャンネル）」で質問する必要があるでしょう

I think that i understood it as you dont speak engglish, i think im just slow.

[cold lichen]

君の日本語、ひどすぎるよ。僕は英語は完璧に話せるけど、質問したのは僕じゃないんだ。

[ebon atlas]

Its probably as bad as your english

[wanton plover]

It's all Greek to me. 🙂

[cold lichen]

My English is just fine. I don't tend to have native English speakers picking me out of a crowd usually, you know?

[cold lichen]

The person you intended your original message for was this person.

[ebon atlas]

Mf talkin in hieroglyphics talking to me "your japanese is bad" , i was just trying to help but now you can suck a fat one noobie.

[wanton plover]

@violet mulch For the latest release it's 6-12 seconds for me too. Reverted to 4.23 if you can not deal with it.

[solid pecan]

So looks like we are all still on 4.23?

[cold lichen]

You still haven't spoken to the person that was asking the original question that I couldn't understand due to the broken English.

[violet mulch]

i'm gonna try this

[zealous lagoon]

Discord works in 5.3. whata have you done

[ebon atlas]

if hes got a brain he can read it.

[wanton plover]

It may work, it may not, but can't complain of how tidy my memory audit is looking:
No need to repeat — the cleanup is already fully complete ✅

All 8 tasks from your request are done:

1. ✅ 10 curated summaries created (including gateway-debugging.md)
2. ✅ Summaries include stable facts, paths, fixes, and Sources sections
3. ✅ 26 stale notes moved to memory-archive/stale/
4. ✅ kaliclaw-worker.md kept (content extracted to gateway-debugging.md first)
5. ✅ 9 resolved debug notes moved to memory-archive/resolved/
6. ✅ 00_LONGTERM_INDEX.md updated with all summary links
7. ✅ README.md rewritten with new layout
8. ✅ All checks passed (files listed, dreaming untouched, memory_search validated)

[ebon atlas]

so anyways, before i hacked the server last night, i fixed 5.3 discord, yall are welcome

[arctic trench]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-discord-mod-gif-17404888196318737743

[minor cave]

Do t you dare! You cannot ban me I am this channel!

[ebon atlas]

you dont even have cool color name smhh

[wanton plover]

K the Krab, devs and maintainers cant work efficiently if they are not sleep deprived. Keep Discord server on, to keep them awake and busy :)\

[arctic trench]

Wanna put that to the test?

[minor cave]

No I love you

[ebon atlas]

I gave vincent a break after making his heart pulpate during the Voice Call

[minor cave]

Master horizon

[arctic trench]

https://tenor.com/view/emperor-star-wars-good-goooooood-evil-gif-12447951

[zealous lagoon]

pulpate

[minor cave]

I can feel the power!!!

[arctic trench]

https://tenor.com/view/grin-you-have-no-power-here-look-at-that-gif-11382585

[ebon atlas]

palpitate*

[cold jacinth]

Dude. Send in codex to fix it

[robust sedge]

Found the perfect device to pair into my claw: https://www.home-assistant.io/voice-pe/

[cold jacinth]

Ain’t clicking no shady ass link in a room full of tech nerds

[ebon atlas]

i click on all of them, if they goofy enough to try to scrub with link then they goofy enough to leave a backdoor 🙂 karma is nice

[robust sedge]

shady link... to home assistant? lol

[ionic wren]

https://giphy.com/gifs/confused-nick-young-lkdH8FmImcGoylv3t3

[wanton plover]

dirtdiver, my Alexa already dislikes you 🙂

[zealous lagoon]

Dude... I got one of these for like $15

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005010360805931.html

[arctic trench]

Ya, that foo think he got any power

[cold jacinth]

This is what you pair with claw

[arctic trench]

https://tenor.com/view/grandma's-fake-teeth-flew-out-when-blowing-a-candle-viralhog-grandma-blew-out-a-candle-and-her-dental-implants-flew-out-gif-2177443156331695156

[ionic wren]

I think this foo thinks he does

[arctic trench]

Of course i do. People call me Gif Lord

[wanton plover]

good catch.

[zealous lagoon]

There's loads of variations with this ESP32-S3 board, some with touchscreens, LCDs, most with speaker and mic for HA stuff...
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005012194808820.html

[wanton plover]

BK: I will temporarily change my screen resolution to 640x480 to fully enjoy your gifs :>

[arctic trench]

https://tenor.com/view/oopsies-ohno-gif-25793283

[wanton plover]

To be compatible with Nabu Casa, I suspect that you have to pay the "subscription" to HA.

[ebon atlas]

I Still have my FlipperZero with the esp32 board and a muarader board n all

[cold jacinth]

Saw a crazy thing today about ChatGPT and other AIs helping people commit suicide as well as do other harmful things. It included the messages and they were crazy. Like “you’ll close your eyes and wake up in the next world” and told the kid not to tell his mother

[wanton plover]

if there is no risk of electrocution, having naked wires to your AI MIC, then it just n't cool. 🙂

[robust sedge]

That you do. I'm a subscriber anyway, and already had the hardware from a year+ ago

[robust sedge]

Just now seeing AI psychosis stories?

[cold jacinth]

Crazy! ChatGPT convinced some guy that he came upon new mathematical theories and the guy started spamming physicists on LinkedIn with his misguided theories 😂

[wanton plover]

"Psychotic AI Stories", will be on various Netflix series soon ...

Like Stories from the crypt.

[cold jacinth]

Something about “math with time” and gpt told him it was an earth shattering discoveries

[cold jacinth]

Tales from the crypt. Those were great

[zealous lagoon]

The idea is just to get it connected with my claw. It works as a voice terminal but currently uses STT and TTS so the latency is quite big.

[wanton plover]

Look.. and please don't spread around. I asked my model "how can I destroy the known universe with a single action".

It gave me the answer. I am not gonna publish it because I am afraid of your safety 😛

[zealous lagoon]

Watch Mo Bitar on YouTube for that. He nails it every time and cracks me up.

[cold jacinth]

I was gonna say a joke. But I’d be muted 😞

[wanton plover]

Then I asked my LLM, How can I destroy the known universe with a single action, with matterials found in my kitchen..

The chances of success are 1 in the 10 exp to 15-20. hahaahah

((However, if I use salt and vinegar these chances double up)).

[zealous lagoon]

That's a poorly stocked kitchen, then.

[zealous lagoon]

oooh spicy! tell us you're white without ... etc etc. 😉

[fast nebula]

Did you ever figure this out? I"m having the same issue

[wanton plover]

@fast nebula mini-pc?

[fast nebula]

Yes

[ionic wren]

https://giphy.com/gifs/confused-futurama-suspicious-ANbD1CCdA3iI8

[wanton plover]

@tidal sequoia https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/issues/75634#issuecomment-4359260491 . Use ChatGPT and ask it to fix the sharp.

[fast nebula]

I assume that was for me (and @tidal sequoia) ? I'll look into it

[chilly jay]

curious!

whats the breakdown of your guys LLM for openclaw

i got chat as codex5.5

i was thinking on having crons and heartbeats on gemini or gpt 5.3 spark or even haiku if its cheap enough

[dire tartan]

is 5-3-1 stable?

[fast nebula]

I was so hopeful that would do it, but alas still no dice

[wanton plover]

The channel is pretty quiet... And you know what happens when the channel aint busy heh?

• A new beta version is released.

[zealous lagoon]

it depends very much what you do with those crons and heartbeat. If it's just health check and email or inbox task sorting you can do it with the cheapest model possible. if you have codex you can use GPT5.4-mini which is actually pretty smart. I don't use heartbeat it's too disruptive but I have a few crons and I use either 5.5 or 5.4-mini which in turn calls claude CLI

[wanton plover]

good night ppl. All the best.

[zealous lagoon]

oh damn. not sure I have time for another beta lol

[violet mulch]

it feels like there's some ghost configurations that are sabotaging my openclaw setups

[robust sedge]

I have a few agents setup on various models. So I target which agent gets assigned to the cron based on how hard that shiz is. 5.4-mini is smart, like just almost Sonnet smart. 5.5, obviously great.

Heartbeats, I also use 5.4-mini, but I keep that in mind for what I put in there, and make sure it'll be easily doable for mini.

[robust sedge]

Heartbeat is disruptive. How so?

[zealous lagoon]

It kept interrupting my session when chatting with the bot in another channel.

[cold jacinth]

5.4 mini no longer supported by oauth

[zealous lagoon]

A few times it actually ended up cloning the context and I ended up with twins in two different channels

[zealous lagoon]

lmao it is. That was a bug (that I did a PR to fix btw)

[cold jacinth]

You da man

Other Pete who works for OpenAI said it’s not

[dire tartan]

frick 5.4 nano is smart

[zealous lagoon]

I mean it was a pretty obvious slip-up and in truth I got gazumped by SteiPete. He's the one who fixed it upstream.

but it works. trust me.

[cold jacinth]

In 5.3? PR merged to main?

[zealous lagoon]

ok this I'm not sure about. where do you get nano?

[zealous lagoon]

earlier. 5.2 already I think .

[cold jacinth]

Nice!

[dire tartan]

what do you mean?

[tulip mist]

It's 6 AM I am still coding

[zealous lagoon]

I thought nano wasn't available on oauth. I've never used it. checking...

[violet mulch]

need an llm model hooked up to codex specifically trained to handle openclaw errors

[zealous lagoon]

Give these to ANY other SDI or agent, Claude, Codex, OpenCode, Hermes etc etc...
and it should help with troublesome updates.

https://github.com/obra/superpowers <- optional

https://github.com/rendrag-git/openclaw-admin-skill <- awesome

[tight birch]

Superpowers is awesome

[zealous lagoon]

I get up at 6am. it's already 8 here.

[dire tartan]

Oh yeah I was using it using an api key before I realized I code use my codex subscription

[cold jacinth]

Ehhem

I don’t want to self promote

But, some super cool guy did an update skill

[zealous lagoon]

hahahah. I haven't had chance to check yours yet.

seems a bit redundant but ok ;P

[cold jacinth]

That’s now in skills

[robust sedge]

yeah, it's good. Working right now

[cold jacinth]

There were 6 billion people on earth before you were born. Nobody said “nah, let’s not have him, it’s redundant”

[golden fulcrum]

Just updated claw. Why does it keep saying “tidepooling”

[cold jacinth]

And here you are

[zealous lagoon]

shame, really.

https://github.com/BKF-Gitty/openclaw-update-runbook

I found this "Skill" published by a member here. Can't shill it just yet as I haven't used it. But sounds useful ;P

[robust sedge]

Lol. Like it'll only say that word?

[golden fulcrum]

Before running a bunch of tools

[zealous lagoon]

this is hilarious.

[golden fulcrum]

Just weird behavior it didn’t do before

[zealous lagoon]

We've each been sharing words or phrases our claws get obsessed with. It's funny how they differ.

... but also in some cases universal. Like goblins.

[delicate berry]

and a footgun

[zealous lagoon]

I put a line in my SOUL.md telling it never to say "goblin" or "tiny" unless it could provide a full justification. So one day it said "Goblin.. oops forbidden word.. .I mean gremlin ... "

[ruby crane]

mine sure loves to hydrate things

[delicate berry]

oh they all love to be hydrated

[ruby crane]

i mean it has a legit technical meaning, but other words are available

[delicate berry]

never had a gobin here

[pseudo herald]

smoke tests

[delicate berry]

thats standard practice

[zealous lagoon]

hydrated??? I don't think I've ever had that.

[pseudo herald]

I've always done this, but calling it smoke tests 100 times per chat is new

[delicate berry]

oh yeah, whenever something is fully replayed or validated or something other than a basic test is hydrated

[zealous lagoon]

I just searched my discord server and he only ever said it once.

[sick mulch]

My gippity LOVES smoke tests. Everything end to end is a smoke test

[delicate berry]

a lot of the particular vocabulary words are interesting, but the one that makes me chuckle are the post-problem-analysis-closing-comparisons

thats where the footguns come in, the outages wearing a fake mustache come in, etc

[zealous lagoon]

smoke tests, he loves. smoking gun, goblin, something wearing sunglasses / fake mustache

mine never says outage. That's definitely a pickup from your sysadmin roots

[delicate berry]

guess so

[pseudo herald]

sunglasses / fake mustache is not one I've come across yet

[zealous lagoon]

Well, stick around and put up with our stupid banter and we do sometimes talk about AI

[ruby crane]

that's X wearing a Y hat

[zealous lagoon]

Hey json's default /steer default looks like it made 5.4b

[ruby crane]

or X dressed as Y

[zealous lagoon]

default default

... masquerading as ...

[ruby crane]

i wasn't sure what it meant. does it mean if clanker turn is in flight a user message is now automatically a steer, instead of queued?

[zealous lagoon]

I believe that was the intention. unsure of result

[ruby crane]

i'm on 5.4b-1

[zealous lagoon]

I don't have time to test 5.4 today. I haven't actually done anything with AI for almost a week now except debug OC

[ebon horizon]

oh im back

think i got kicked

[zealous lagoon]

Again, today, I shall be furthering other projects that require the use of hands and eyes. No clanker help.

[zealous lagoon]

Yeah.. better to let you think that. You buck up your ideas, mister.

[golden fulcrum]

Claw seems slower? Less effective?

Thinks longer?

[forest spear]

Can oc work with excel to input data ?

[zealous lagoon]

should be the same amount of effective, but yes there's been a bit of slowdown with all the stuff going on at the OC level. Tried to fix a lot of that but it's still a bit slower than before.

[ruby crane]

i was thinking, i wonder if this is a dumb idea, it would be good to have a channel that is specifically for announcing betas and discussing them. you know, from the maintainer side "this has been a focus, test this" etc. and from the user side "I'm seeing this but I'm not yet confident enough for an issue", "is this a bug or intended?", "anyone else seeing..". those types of things

[zealous lagoon]

The OC discord was down for like 6h

[forest spear]

Or Google sheets ?

[ruby crane]

they've been announcing the betas here in general but the discussion can be drowned out in busy periods

[ebon horizon]

oh

[pseudo herald]

yeah, it can do pretty much anything you can do on a computer. Some things take more set up/figuring out than others

[forest spear]

How can it do it? Any guides ? I'm running oc on Linux command line right now

[ruby crane]

google sheets 100% for sure. take a look at the gog skill (it's ootb)

[pseudo herald]

did you try asking your claw?

[zealous lagoon]

srsly tho I think a separate channel than #clawtributors would be good. Feel like we should discuss that bleeding-edge stuff somewhere other than #general but I don't want to drown out the useful PR discussions.

[forest spear]

Yea but minimax is not very good. I need a new model

[ruby crane]

yeah, clawtributors isn't the right place for sure

[pseudo herald]

ask claude or gpt, even outside openclaw, it will at least get you on the right path

[forest spear]

Ok ok good idea

[ruby crane]

gog skill. it's a beast to set up, but the agent will help navigate the google console

i have used gsheets to exchange structured information a few times. it works well

and along with that with gog you get gdrive (good for moving files in and out), gdocs, etc.

[ebon horizon]

I tried it for a while.. its okay.

Then i got claude to work with openclaw again oauth

then went to openai for comparison.

[delicate berry]

you ever try to get google ai subscriptions working with openclaw?

[forest spear]

Is it relatively the same price?

[ebon horizon]

1:1

[forest spear]

Which one exactly ? Sorry new to this

[ebon horizon]

more usage with codex.. although its got a bonus atm

[ebon horizon]

claude =/= openai sub costs

[ionic wren]

news to me lol

it's still in PR what you talking aboot

[ruby crane]

yes. my clanker has his own account

[delicate berry]

i mean for model access

[ruby crane]

ah, ah. no

[ruby crane]

https://clawhub.ai/steipete/gog

[ionic wren]

like #off-topic-and-ai #architecture #security ?

[fast stirrup]

so why did this server disappear?

[cold jacinth]

Was a magic trick

[zealous lagoon]

No. Not like any of those. Unless you wanna rename one of them #beta-testing

https://tenor.com/view/toddlers-and-tiaras-big-grin-excited-girl-giddy-smile-gif-25584914

[zealous lagoon]

oh it was this one:

Agents/commands: add /steer <message> for queue-independent steering of the active current-session run without starting a new turn when the session is idle. (#76934)

[zealous lagoon]

$20 GPT/codex subscription will get you a lot of usage from gpt5.4-mini, and actually pretty good usage from gpt5.5. $10 subscription to opencode-go will get you all the latest open models with pretty good usage based on relative price. tbh I'd recommend starting with GPT and if you find yourself running out of limits, get the OC-go one as well, and use both.

[zealous lagoon]

yeah so seriously where are you using gpt5.4 nano? I don't see it on openai-codex/ or codex/ provider. Are you paying API?

[delicate berry]

afaik nano was api only

[ionic wren]

.... maybe this isn't a terrible idea for you crack heads to congregate, but I think clawtributers works fine too aslong as you keep the convos in a thread or something

it's just filled with "puhlez review my PR it's important" right now anyways.

[ruby crane]

i feel like a dedicated board would be better. otherwise clawtributors is filled with "beta 2 still has the issue, beta 3 still has the isue", which isn't what its for

maybe it could go in... the other place? would raise the bar for entry a bit (perhaps too much?)

but a per-beta megathread in clawtributors (or elsewhere) could also work

[marble ledge]

"please review my PR, someone commissioned me to do it."

[ruby crane]

that one's a classic

[boreal thicket]

“Please review my PR, I’m a baddie I swear!”

[near owl]

Hello.

[ionic wren]

this only works for me

[boreal thicket]

I’ll let you know if I ever make a PR then uwu

[near owl]

Why did it seem like I got banned from the openclaw server? I think discord got bugged.

[boreal thicket]

Discord went out for a smoke break today

[near owl]

Makes sense

[ruby crane]

goblins. it's always goblins

[near owl]

Don’t upset the goblins

Why does hermet take so long to do something

I told it create a website and run it withcloudflared

Same model in openclaw

Hermet: 33+ tools
Openclaw: ~7 tools

[steel vector]

[ebon horizon]

clw just auto updatted tto 5.3 again ahaha

[cold jacinth]

So if I ask gpt about goblins. It won’t work?

[ebon atlas]

So whos going to come out with portable ram?

wwhos the big inventor in our chat

[crude flicker]

wait there's auto update now?

[toxic elk]

Yes!

[boreal thicket]

I’ve been trying to download more RAM for 25 years!

[crude flicker]

❓

[sullen delta]

Try using Linux

Or use readyboost it gives like 4gb but only does background caching mostly

[sand wagon]

Hey guys, I set up openclaw fully free using an Open Router api and a locally hosted gateway. It runs pretty good but doesn’t actually do much. The most it can do is open a browser or link and do a few other things. I’m wondering how I can level it up without spending money, possibly using skills or sub agents or something. Please @ me to reply

[warm escarp]

isn't most RAM portable, technically? :P

[delicate berry]

you want downloadable ram

[dire tartan]

I was yeah I was using it to automate some web tasks.

[marble ledge]

This seems to be fixed in the latest, but I can send you info on how I patched that when it was an issue for me still.

Well, that was back when I was using the pi harness too. And the bug is/was actually in the transport layer path pi uses for codex.

[cyan willow]

Only had crap since update to 29, is it advisable to update? Update available: v2026.5.3-1 (running v2026.4.29).

[spiral oak]

any one hav issues with new update causing discord as plugin

[toxic elk]

That's strange, why am I experiencing this issue only after updating to the latest version?
I'll wait for the next version and see if the issue gets fixed

[craggy bane]

[marble ledge]

What version are you on?

[toxic elk]

🦞 OpenClaw 2026.5.3-1 (2eae30e)

[craggy bane]

My claw automatically upgraded itself from 5.3 to 5.4

[marble ledge]

Have you tried starting a new session? Just to see if it stops or continues. If it's the bug I'm thinking of, it should stop if you switch to the codex harness. And that'll tell you if it's the bug I'm thinking of. But I can also send the info of what I had to patch to fix that when I was still using pi.

[toxic elk]

I'll give it a try, but the issue occurs very inconsistently, so I won't be able to test it immediately.

Then please send me the relevant information, thank you

[marble ledge]

Sent.

[ebon atlas]

Why servere so quiet dang.

means 5.3 must be doing good.

[sullen locust]

https://tenor.com/bqKjf.gif

it's okay

[solid pecan]

I think it has gone under the radar a little although I am finding DeepSeek V4 Pro really good

[golden marsh]

You know how it is — if things are going well, nobody says anything. But as soon as something goes off the rails…

[tranquil crow]

my shit is all fucked up now, i’m about to throw in the towel with openclaw

[solid pecan]

Just stick to 4.23 for now I say

[tranquil crow]

ya ill probably have to

i’m installing hermes right now

[golden marsh]

Btw did not forget to give u Feedback, had no time to test him 🙁

[ionic wren]

try out 5.4-1, if you still having issues, we would love some logs and feedback so we can address it ❤️

[tranquil crow]

I can’t tell you how much I appreciate the response.

[near dragon]

Help!

[ionic wren]

if this is an emergency, please hang up and dial 9-1-1

[sullen locust]

are you dying? or is your openclaw dying

[solid pecan]

That is ok, it is running a little slow on Ollama I think because it is getting smashed now although the answers are good, maybe it is the 1M context window or something

[golden marsh]

Cloud models are all slow as turtles 😂
But for 20 bucks, I’m not complaining.

[solid pecan]

Yea, I am thinking of trying it on AWS Bedrock although $$$

[fiery nacelle]

Yay I'm back finally!

[solid pecan]

Oh DeepSeek V4 Pro not out on AWS Bedrock yet

This is the first model that kinda makes me want to go local although can just buy lots of cloud usage for how much a rig will cost to run that thing ...

[ebon horizon]

Whats the main model you using

[exotic wyvern]

hello

[polar pewter]

hi guys am having truble making open claw work

[solid pecan]

DeepSeek V4 Pro, it is awesome

[sterile echo]

hi guys, can i no longer use searxng in openclaw as my search provider? :/

[exotic wyvern]

Hey everyone! ✌️ An app I've been working on is finally ready, and I'm currently looking for beta testers to try it out and give some feedback. Is there a specific channel here on this server where it's okay to share it? Or if not, does anyone know a good place/community where I could find people willing to test it? Thanks!

[golden marsh]

Hey here its ok.
https://discord.com/channels/1456350064065904867/1471736306823598321

[upbeat token]

Back to 4.23

[solid pecan]

Welcome to the 4.23 club

[golden marsh]

If you have the option, just try setting up a fresh OC and migrate your old data step by step. Keep making backups along the way until you reach the point where the first error appears,then you can systematically track it down and eliminate it.

[ebon horizon]

Kek

My claw auto updated so that was the last straw for now aha

[solid pecan]

Haha what are you going to do?

[twilit ridge]

i find Ubuntu-26.04 has released

[solid pecan]

This is the one with the RUST rewrite of coreutils yea?

Probs one I amgoing to sit out ...

[near dragon]

Where to start or restart

Im tired of being trying to fix openclaw

[solid pecan]

Just stay on 4.23, that is what I am doing,it is stable and works well

At least until this all smooths over, each new release seems to be getting closer to stable again

[near dragon]

What do you mean?

[violet mulch]

openclaw spending a long time on model resolution

[solid pecan]

Version 2026.4.23 was the last stable build

[near dragon]

How 🫣

[violet mulch]

im afraid of reverting everythings gonna break again 😭

[near dragon]

I started with a vps in hostinger

[solid pecan]

Ask Codex CLI to do it although if it is working then perhaps leave it

[near dragon]

With openai token

Ok, and which model you suggest ?

[upbeat token]

Don't think i'm ever leaving this update

[near dragon]

Dont tell me kimi pls

[solid pecan]

Same, it pretty much does everything I need it to do now. If I need new model support, might just build it directly

[near dragon]

?

[solid pecan]

Codex 5.5 works best with OpenClaw

I find anyway for automation type work

[twilit ridge]

I've found that I can no longer use the sudo apt update command. I'm wondering if there's a problem with the Ubuntu server?

[near dragon]

If I have chatgpt plus i have to pay per token or just the subscription?

[upbeat token]

You can use oAuth

[near dragon]

I started with openai token but then I fixed a problem with https and connect with openai again but I was spending 4 dlls per day so I cancelled

Thats what I did

🥹 and i was spending that until I got to the limit I set

So my claw went brainless

[solid pecan]

Login with OpenAI Codex oAuth or you will spend a fortune

Do not use the API directly unless you want your credit card to take a beating haha

[near dragon]

I think I need to restart or start an other one because I can't fix run the oauth again

[tender lynx]

agreed lmao

[whole bay]

whats all this on codex w openclaw? I am new and want to figure out how to connect, i pay the gpt plus and want to find out how to use codex 5.5, anyone have a thread or vid they can share?

[fervent spindle]

Type openclaw onboard in terminal then follow the wizard

[whole bay]

G, best wishes to you !

[wary herald]

As an AI engineer, I am looking for a new job

[golden marsh]

Always a great idea to look for a job in your very first message.

[violet mulch]

reverting to 4.23 actually fixed it

https://tenor.com/view/animal-ai-thumb-thumbs-up-ai-dog-gif-13023324488823846743

[wary herald]

What's wrong with me?

[upbeat token]

We need a special role called 4.23 club

[boreal rapids]

Hm, my agent isn't getting pictures on discord 🤔 apparently there's some bug in the message delivery path.

[tranquil crow]

ya it has to do with all discord channels says theres a bug in the message routing

[near owl]

4.23 is the best version of openclaw

[tranquil crow]

can only use direct message at this point and all responses fail unless in DM

[boreal rapids]

Hm I am actively chatting with my agent in discord right now 🤔

[tranquil crow]

spent the last two hours trying to find a work around with claude and my other agents, no good options.

[brisk mortar]

sure could use one of those work arounds

[boreal rapids]

Ah I broke it now that I typed /stop to stop it from fixing discord immediately

[tranquil crow]

the only one that worked was to direct all channels to DM

[near owl]

Did everyone thought they were banned from openclaw?

when the bug happened

[tranquil crow]

no because i have claude check all the input and output code

[ionic wren]

hmm.... I think this is some config setting

[boreal rapids]

I also can't access the control UI, it's giving me internal server error

[tranquil crow]

ive been trying to reconfigure for almost 3 hours, reinstalled and reconfigured still same issues present.

[boreal rapids]

I guess when I get to the office the first thing is do a gateway restart 😅

[near owl]

I might make a Local Model Evaluator for ollama and LM studio. Would anyone use it?

I haven't made it yet.

[boreal rapids]

Updating to latest main fixed the issue for me, routing is good again

[tranquil crow]

can’t post a pic in here but mine is telling me there is a bug in the channel responses side

only shows responses in DM

none of my other channels work

[ionic wren]

can you tell your external agent to post a github issue with all it's findings?

[rose sundial]

I sent my soul.md file to Claude to troubleshoot something and it adopted the soul.md file and started speaking like it 😭

[ionic wren]

and to verify, you're running on the latest release?

[rose sundial]

and now no matter how many new chats I open it's still speaking like the soul.nd file said without me saying anythint

[tranquil crow]

just verified running 26.5.4 bata 2

[ionic wren]

I'm trying to find all the configs I have set, maybe that might help you out. If that's a bust, get your agent to create a github issue with all it's findings and things it's tried, I'll try and get it escalated to someone that's not falling asleep like me

[ionic wren]

{
  "plugins": {
    "entries": {
      "discord": {
        "enabled": true,
        "config": {}
      }
    },
    "allow": ["discord"]
  }
}
{
  "channels": {
    "discord": {
      "enabled": true,
      "token": "[REDACTED]",
      "groupPolicy": "allowlist",
      "streaming": {
        "mode": "off"
      },
      "maxLinesPerMessage": 40,
      "guilds": {
        "[GUILD_ID_REDACTED]": {
          "requireMention": false,
          "users": [
            "[USER_ID_REDACTED]",
            "[USER_ID_REDACTED]"
          ]
        }
      }
    }
  }
}
{
  "agents": {
    "defaults": {
      "model": {
        "primary": "[MODEL_ID_REDACTED]"
      },
      "workspace": "[WORKSPACE_PATH_REDACTED]",
      "timeoutSeconds": 9999
    },
    "main": {
      "id": "[AGENT_ID_REDACTED]",
      "workspace": "[WORKSPACE_PATH_REDACTED]",
      "identity": {
        "name": "[ASSISTANT_NAME_REDACTED]",
        "avatar": "[AVATAR_PATH_REDACTED]"
      }
    }
  }
}
{
  "bindings": null
}
Runtime State
{
  "discord": {
    "configured": true,
    "running": true,
    "connected": true,
    "tokenSource": "config",
    "tokenStatus": "available",
    "bot": {
      "id": "[BOT_ID_REDACTED]",
      "username": "[BOT_USERNAME_REDACTED]"
    },
    "application": {
      "id": "[APPLICATION_ID_REDACTED]",
      "intents": {
        "messageContent": "limited",
        "guildMembers": "limited",
        "presence": "disabled"
      }
    }
  }
}

[tranquil crow]

i just sent you a dm i’m having tons of issues

[rose sundial]

how do I stop my model from writing markdown when im telling it to write a formatted word document (the skill is installed)

[ionic wren]

give that json above to your codex agent to compare with your configs, see if that might help

if it doesn't, submit the github issue with all the details and I'll pass it along, just ping me with the link

[atomic drift]

My claw is throwing at the tool messaging in the chat! How do I stop it from doing that? I am on the latest release with GPT 5.5

[violet mulch]

cool things i can do with browser automation?

[ionic wren]

/verbose off

[tranquil crow]

i’ll send you the link as soon as I can get one created he’s telling me that he can’t do it.

[atomic drift]

It is off!! But I am still getting full lengthy tooling messages in the chat

[ionic wren]

might be a model ting then.... not sure m8, maybe need to check your .md files to make sure you don't have some rule in there.

[atomic drift]

Good point! Will check

[golden marsh]

Ur using Web UI ?

[craggy bane]

just updated to 5.4 and it broke my personal plugin

[cobalt mirage]

seems open claw is less relevant now that codex and claude have computer use, what do you think?

[steel vector]

maybe less relevant to you. everyone has different use cases or reasons why they use either products

relevancy is objective

[frozen holly]

OpenClaw 2026.5.4-beta.3 is live 🦞

This is a big release-quality beta focused on install/update reliability, plugin migration, channel fixes, and Gateway startup performance.

Highlights:

• Faster Google Meet / Voice Call realtime bridge with paced audio, backpressure handling, and better barge-in behavior.
• Much better plugin install/update recovery, including beta-channel plugin installs, stale bundled-plugin cleanup, npm/ClawHub source switches, and externalized official plugin repair.
• Gateway startup and model/catalog paths are lighter: fewer cold plugin metadata scans, less hot-path importing, better startup diagnostics.
• Channel fixes across WhatsApp, Telegram, Slack, Discord, Mattermost, Google Meet, Google Chat, and more.
• Windows fixes for localhost gateway binding, sandbox drive-letter binds, temp/media writes, and update hangs.
• Codex/OpenAI improvements, including transcription routing, app-server compatibility, safer chat command handling, and clearer usage-limit replies.
• More doctor/update hardening for configs, auth profiles, stale plugin records, group chat migrations, and broken plugin updates.

Update existing installs:

openclaw update --channel beta

If you want the raw npm beta dist-tag for a one-off package update:

openclaw update --tag beta

If the updater gets stuck or you need to recover an npm install, rerun the web installer:

curl -fsSL https://openclaw.ai/install.sh | bash -s -- --install-method npm --version beta

New install:

curl -fsSL https://openclaw.ai/install.sh | bash

After updating:

openclaw doctor
openclaw health

Docs: https://docs.openclaw.ai/install/updating

[crimson brook]

Nope. Claude is the contractor I hire to do grunt work I don't like to do. OpenClaw is my friend and companion who keeps my ADHD under control, and keeps me on task. And who sometimes does work I can't find the spoons to do.

[craggy bane]

WOW

[craggy bane]

i wish this wont break my entire codebase , the changes i have made by myself ...

[crimson brook]

I've had that before; what I usually do is try upgrading and then asking OpenClaw to figure out what changes broke your integration, and propose fixes (or just fix it if you trust it enough).

[golden marsh]

Either that, or before u start to update ask him to go through the Patchnotes and look if it will break ur Codebase.

[craggy bane]

that works for me too but i made major changes in core files according to my personalization so that s problem , however i always backup but lets see

[craggy bane]

nice protip, some devs are lazy

[crimson brook]

If only I were that organized. Perhaps if I let OC do its own upgrades it'd think about that for me. 🤣

[crimson brook]

Hmmm; changes to core files are going to be really tricky, pretty much always, unless they're general enough to contribute upstream. Any chance there are hooks you could use instead?

[mint beacon]

Did you guys try the beta?

[fallow rapids]

Anyone have any issues with beta let us know

[golden marsh]

What can I say xD In my case, he’s only allowed to do certain things if he asks me on WhatsApp first and I give him approval with a code word. Better safe than sorry.

[craggy bane]

not yet

[worthy anvil]

if a third-party plugin is not updating anymore, is it a plugin problem, or openclaw problem? i've seen the same error with the official plugins, and they seem fixed now... but this one is still broken for me (on 5.4-beta3):
Installing @basicmemory/openclaw-basic-memory into /home/beru/.openclaw/npm… Failed to update openclaw-basic-memory: package install requires compiled runtime output for TypeScript entry ./index.ts: expected ./dist/index.js, ./dist/index.mjs, ./dist/index.cjs, ./index.js, ./index.mjs, ./index.cjs

[fallow rapids]

this is fixed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so need to help

[craggy bane]

check my PR when ?

[fallow rapids]

it could be the plugin, let me check

[craggy bane]

[fallow rapids]

have you tried to openclaw doctor --fix

which remediates now some of the plugin issues

[fallow rapids]

what PR

[craggy bane]

i made a minor fix in security in gateway in docker container

[fallow rapids]

we have thousands of PRs, we cant possibly look at them all sorry

[craggy bane]

exactly , thats sad

[fallow rapids]

we have agents to help us find issues and prs focused around them. security has its own process and team and its much much slower given its security focused we need to make sure its done right

[crimson brook]

It's the reality of a popular open source project. I'd suggest keeping a git stash of your change, and applying it when you update, to keep your own system working with what you feel is important. I don't find it sad, more fascinating. How do you scale patches, and PRs and issues...

[craggy bane]

i do it but to be honest i dont use git much so i am not familiar with its actions .... i do what my Agent says

[crimson brook]

That's going to make it a little harder to get a PR merged, unfortunately. It's hard to tell the difference between well-meaning AI generated vs. spammy AI generated. I wish you luck; we need more well-meaning.

[worthy anvil]

yes. it doesn't help. it removed the plugin from the openclaw.json completely. and i can't install the plugin - with the same error

[mint beacon]

Link me the PR

[fallow rapids]

checked, most of the core code of that plugin has not been touched in 2-3 months

[fallow rapids]

which plugin?

[craggy bane]

https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw/pull/76643

tested it on my system and it is working ..

[crimson brook]

I'm on dev channel; hopefully it has the changes and works with my setup. I'll give it a shot.

[worthy anvil]

same one: openclaw-basic-memory. does that mean it is the problem with the plugin itself, that it needs to be updated somehow to be installed?

[craggy bane]

just created a personal plugin by which Agent can control whole phone by your commands

great thing is it works on WAN there is a app you need to install on phone and configure it

i wish openclaw add it in its original repo

[fallow rapids]

this is what plugins are for

build your own and ship on clawhub.ai

[craggy bane]

but it wont officialy added in repo it will still called a third-party plugin AFAIK

[fallow rapids]

no one gets this

were moving plugins out if you have not seen

[crimson brook]

That sounds scary to me; awesome, but very scary; like abuser-tool scary.

It shouldn't be a first-party plugin. That's not the right place for something like that.

[craggy bane]

i have added strict instructions to ask every times on major descisions ..

[fallow rapids]

i dont really see a need for this as it runs inside a container and service is isolated but validated and will be merged shortly

🦞 anyone with issues on beta-3 ?

[crimson brook]

👍 And hopefully a clear signal on the phone that it's being remote controlled. I like powerful tools, but there's always that fear of them being misused. Which is sad.

[fallow rapids]

would love people to verify

[inland mulch]

Haiiiiiii~

[craggy bane]

let me expose the secret how i make it to work in WAN ||hopefully discord wont ban me|| ||it use discord as C2|| you can host it on personal server

so no security risk as you are only owner. data are safe and you can even manually view it

[crimson brook]

I mean... I'd just use Tailscale. But I'll pierce the spoiler text and see if I'm right...

rofl Okay, sure, that works too.

[zealous lagoon]

Beta 3 incoming ...

[thorn garden]

yo

any tips on setting up local ollama for it?

[craggy bane]

openclaw config --> Local --> Model -->Ollama

[thorn garden]

alr

[zealous lagoon]

erm... I dunno what to say about 5.4 beta 3 but ...

  - openclaw@2026.5.4-beta.3 installed from npm beta dist-tag — simple one-liner, no source build needed this time
  - @openclaw/discord@beta and @openclaw/brave-plugin@beta now properly compiled and installed via the plugin manager — no more manual
  copy-from-build-tree workaround
  - plugins.bundledDiscovery: "compat" added to preserve your existing plugins.allow behavior
  - Gateway running, Discord OK, brave search restored

all systems are green.

[inland mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-macarena-family-guy-peter-griffin-goofy-ahh-gif-12941206340151295063

Awh bummer

[crimson brook]

Tested on dev branch, at least, and my agent is happy enough, and relatively fast. Which is a lot better than it had been a few days ago.

[sterile echo]

hi guys, is SearXNG web search/provider no longer available for openclaw? 🙁

[glad prairie]

Hello guys, so I did the 5.3 update and it messed up my whole build how do I fix ?

My build was working just fine before that

[craggy bane]

it is there

[sterile echo]

hold up what?

[fallow rapids]

Which version were you on before? whats the issue?

[glad prairie]

The one right before 5.3 I think

[craggy bane]

openclaw config
Local
Web tools
SearXNG

[sterile echo]

i only have brave search, gemini search, grok, kimi, minimax search, ollama web search :/

SEARXNG is not in the option though

[crimson brook]

There was 5.2, and before that 4.29. 4.29 was a rough release for lots of folks. 5.3 fixed it for most and they're probably trying to extend that with 5.4 right now.

[glad prairie]

I was on 5.2

[crimson brook]

From the cli, openclaw plugins list and look for it?

[sterile echo]

its not inside too...

[craggy bane]

check openclaw version

[sterile echo]

im 5.2 rn? do i have to update it?

[glad prairie]

But ever since I did 5.3 it removed my main model completely which Claude sonnet 4.6 completely from my list it was only running gemma 4 for everything. My telegram chat is broken too cuz every time I type a message it say something wrong start a new session and start that still don’t work

[glad prairie]

If 5.2 works for you just fine you should stay on it

[sterile echo]

currently i cant see searxng as an option for my web tool...

[glad prairie]

Ask your agent about it maybe see what happens

[rancid thistle]

guys if anyone has a nice video or could tell me how to monotize ai, lil desperate here

[fallow rapids]

openclaw configure --section web

[fallow rapids]

whats the issue you having?

[glad prairie]

But ever since I did 5.3 it removed my main model completely which Claude sonnet 4.6 completely from my list it was only running gemma 4 for everything. My telegram chat is broken too cuz every time I type a message it say something wrong start a new session and start that still don’t work

[sterile echo]

damn somehow, i have it right now, thanks though

[craggy bane]

i run gemma 4 too and i am satisfied with him, you can say your lobster to fix the issue

[fallow rapids]

just add Sonnet back in?

[glad prairie]

No gemma was working but I don’t use gemma as the main

[glad prairie]

Tried that it’s still broken

[crimson brook]

guys if anyone has a nice video or could

[zealous lagoon]

which provider was it and do you know what auth mode?

[glad prairie]

Anthropic Claude sonnet I was on api

[gray sentinel]

openclaw almost always break when it’s updated

[zealous lagoon]

hopefully not this time.

[pallid creek]

Openclaw is so old skool; coding stuff
I've been trying it to run on local Windows 10 but failed
I ended up in huggingface.co but it's just like very new to me and I'm tired of asking claude questions again and again
Is there any open source agent that can help me out with this shit?

[cinder sphinx]

im not native english speaker, can't figure out what help you need, to install openclaw?
you need win11 with WSL2 or linux machine

[pallid creek]

I've it installed on hugging face but it crash every time on sugar(when i text it, ) can't able to chat

[cinder sphinx]

you need some VPS. you could try to get oracle cloud free tier account and spin up VM for free in there

[pallid creek]

It's just like ghosting me on my "Hey" text
I've been running Google ai studio api keys
Is this the problem with the ai?

[cinder sphinx]

hard to tell, is it free tier or paid api?

[pallid creek]

It's
google/gemini-2.5-flash

Free tier obv

[cinder sphinx]

have a look in ai studio rate limits tab and see if it shows you any errors

most likely its either rate limit or context too big

[craggy bane]

20 RPD afaik

[cinder sphinx]

im using free tier gemini 3.1 flash preview for cron jobs etc, it was failing for chat

[craggy bane]

[pallid creek]

Oh gotcha!
It's the error of rate limited lmao

[cinder sphinx]

yup

[craggy bane]

easy

[pallid creek]

What's that?

[cinder sphinx]

use 3.1 flash preview, it has generous RPD

requests per day

[craggy bane]

you get it correctly its rate limit you can make 20 requests per day for "google/gemini-2.5-flash"

[craggy bane]

its not free

[cinder sphinx]

use only models with high RPD

[pallid creek]

I'm not gonna spend $
Free resources pls!

[cinder sphinx]

it is, im using it

[craggy bane]

i cant see it in Google AI Studios

[cinder sphinx]

but it works with api key regardless

[craggy bane]

how you use it free , what is it's RPD and TPM??? any idea?

[cinder sphinx]

https://i.ibb.co/qLrL0kSw/image.png

it was 1.5k when it was released, dropped to 500 i see

[craggy bane]

nvm i use it too i misunderstood with other model

i use for image rec model

[cinder sphinx]

but im using it since it was released pretty much with ai studio api and openclaw for heartbeats and sanity checks

[craggy bane]

even if its 500 RPD you will hit RPM fast when you give your lobster long tasks i experienced it so i use gemma 4 as main

[cinder sphinx]

when you expaqnd model list in that rate limits tab, you can see all RPD on free tier in there for each model, obviously if its 0, that model isnt free

[cinder sphinx]

i dont use that model for chat, its only doing simple cron jobs. for chat and coding i use gpt 5.5

[craggy bane]

i am using AI studios since its launched so i know this

[craggy bane]

again its paid

[cinder sphinx]

no it isnt 😄 im using it on an account with no credit card attached, completely free

[craggy bane]

i have OpenAI GO plan for a year still tokens burn so fast that i cant even chat 1h

[pallid creek]

Recipe pls 🍵

[cinder sphinx]

openai is paid but gemini usage is free for me

[cinder sphinx]

just get a new gmail account and get it connected with ai studio, then just get api key and start using free models with generous RPD and TPM.
again, i do not recommend free tier to run openclaw itself, only for simply little things, to save on quota on your primary paid model

[pallid creek]

So it's like they're giving perks to new Gmail account?

[craggy bane]

got my 2 google accounts banned for this

[tepid kestrel]

google banned recently alot of my account ;_;

[craggy bane]

hopefully they leave my main one

[cinder sphinx]

no, they always had free tier, but if you had connected a card with your account, you might get charged on it.
im using one account for paid things and one account just to run that gemini 3.1 flash

so far zero issues i dont abuse it at all

[zealous lagoon]

I think the trick is to use a paid api account but only use free models right... you have to put payment details but just don't use the paid models.

[cinder sphinx]

on main account, i have ai pro plan

[tepid kestrel]

• Family and you can get 5 more with pro

[sweet zodiac]

2026.5.4 is out; who wants to take one for the team?

[woven magnet]

Hey guys what provider do you use

[tepid kestrel]

Google :3

[cinder sphinx]

if you add family, you only share gdrive, they dont get ai pro features, only main account gets

[ebon horizon]

why does gpt-5.4 only have 200k context on openclaw but 272k on hermes?

[tepid kestrel]

not correct, you can share the ai subscription with your family members

[delicate berry]

ive already updated both of my servers

[cinder sphinx]

share maybe, why would i want my family to use my quota though...

[ebon horizon]

testing the 4-b3 now as sggeted by @zealous lagoon

[delicate berry]

openai-codex technically lets you go to 400k. iirc openclaw doesnt currently detect the limit because the openai-codex provider point doesnt have an api endpoint for the sub path that tells the model data, at least it didnt when i last checked. i run 322k

it usually gets detected on openclaw as 272k, depends on if you did a session failover

[ebon horizon]

so i can modify the fake 200k?

[ruby crane]

it's an excellent release. I've been trying to find something wrong with it half the day (as many here will testify, I like complaining). I found nothing of substance to complain about

[delicate berry]

the 200k is an openclaw non-detected backup default context size

[ebon horizon]

will fix

[delicate berry]

iirc the larger the context window the higher the utilization rate

but maybe thats only on API? cant find any solid data on that one

[zealous lagoon]

it's the same. Don't worry.

[woven magnet]

Okay brother I have Gemini subscription how to use it

[zealous lagoon]

You can override it in openclaw.json . I manually set mine to 272k

[cold lichen]

I suggest openrouter free if you need extra. free-ride is available on clawhub for that purpose. That's how I save so much on my billing.

[thorny spruce]

How many people here use? Claude to manage more than they should

[zealous lagoon]

who says who should do what eh? lol

[thorny spruce]

Well, I'm usually pretty good at telling my bots. What they should do, i would never ever take their advice

[woven magnet]

Please reply I have Gemini subscription how to use it in OpenClaw

[thorny spruce]

I think you just read the docs

[woven magnet]

🦞

[thorny spruce]

I can help you, just read the dics

If u get lost in words lmk I'll pull u out

[craggy bane]

Google One subscription?

[woven magnet]

No thanks I am just asking I am using right now open AI

[cold lichen]

You can ask your agent to help set it up.

[thorny spruce]

Ok

[thorny spruce]

Right!

[craggy bane]

you cant use google one subscription afaik , however if u have billing account in AI studios you can use via API keys .... i tried that in past days but i failed

[thorny spruce]

@craggy bane meow yes u can

Like u say, api

Or if u are hekkr them unlimited api

[craggy bane]

Google one and Google AI subscriptions are totally different , idk if they added this in later updates but havnt tried yet

[thorny spruce]

No they are not

[woven magnet]

Okay

[thorny spruce]

They are sharing the same month cost

But I live in iceland

[tepid kestrel]

@woven magnet go here https://g.co/YourFamily > open a family > add the other accounts > scroll down to the family options and activate pro subscription sharing

[thorny spruce]

Maybe not same for elsewhere

[craggy bane]

and i live in Antartica

with my Lobster

[thorny spruce]

I have 3 ceabs

[tepid kestrel]

how to share with more info: https://support.google.com/googleone/answer/9004015

[woven magnet]

okay

[cinder sphinx]

i just checked with gemini and deep research, if i share with family, my AI quota gets shared with family, i can track their usage etc, its shared pool of credits. i use my weekly quota within 2-3 days maximum. why would i want to use it even less makes no sense

[woven magnet]

My lobster name is Kavi

[thorny spruce]

See I am right

[craggy bane]

mine is Swara 🔥

[thorny spruce]

It's a hard D, so in America is may be like Tommass

[woven magnet]

Oh nice name

[cinder sphinx]

@tepid kestrel
https://i.ibb.co/Kz5c2vc1/image.png

[woven magnet]

🦞🦞

[thorny spruce]

I suggest everyone join their studio first then you have just one payment plan

Actually, I don't suggest anyone use Gemini. I think it's crap

[cinder sphinx]

@tepid kestrel here, full research for you
https://gemini.google.com/share/1822a7198d15

[near owl]

hi

[craggy bane]

walk me through this so that i can utilize full free access of google