Hollow Knight

[tulip flume]

adaptability is imperative

[mossy kettle]

there is a bench semi nearby

[short gate]

But like, very well hidden

[short gate]

i found PoP 2.0, wish me luck

[mossy kettle]

the one ||above the cradle?||

[carmine axle]

||TWEESTED CHILD||

[tulip flume]

||oh shit thats what happenes if you beat the game with the curse||

[carmine axle]

IM SO DONE WITH THIS STUPID ASS BOSS

ALWAYS WITH THE ADS AND ||KNOCKING ME INTO BILEWATER||

[tulip flume]

lmfao

nice work

[carmine axle]

oh cool i got the final thing i need

[short gate]

100% achieved, now i just need to kill the final boss

[carmine axle]

uhhhh

||lace is gone||

||she was laying there before, nows shes just gone/??????||

[short gate]

did u ||ensnare in the void|| the boss ?

[carmine axle]

i dont think so yet

i just finished that quest, im omw to the boss

havent done anything with the boss yet

||here we go||

||AYO WHAT THE F-||

[tulip flume]

absolute cinema

[carmine axle]

uhhh

so uhm

@tulip flume

what happened

||to my save file||

spoilers im assuming

[tulip flume]

||it got corrupted, time to make a new one||

[carmine axle]

NOOOOOOOO

wait

[tulip flume]

lmfao

[carmine axle]

uhhh

im scared now

it says nothing

[tulip flume]

honestly one of my favorite details

[carmine axle]

WTF

WAIT

WHAT

HEGH

WHERE

WHY

WHEN

HOW

[tulip flume]

bro is gobbsmacked 😭 🙏

i was too

[carmine axle]

||IM GETTING ANOTHER PANIC ATTACK||

AW HELLL NOOOO

ITS ||THE VOID||

||MY GOATTTT||

WAIT WTF

WHAT HAPPENED TO MY BOY AERA

[tulip flume]

||absolutetly insane how much detailing they did to the ENTIRE world in act 3, void tendrils EVERYWHERE, almost every enemy sometimes gets empowered by the void making them tougher, dialogue for all characters is different, a couple of new events can appear if you decide to visit certain areas, kinda like infected crossroads in the other game except this itme its the entire world. its soooo good no wonder this took 7 years to make||

[carmine axle]

YEA I CAN SEE THAT

WTF

[tulip flume]

anybody that isnt in act 3 dont unspoiler this 💀

[carmine axle]

YEA

DONT

THIS IS PEAK

||ABSOLUTECINEMAAAA||

WGAT

@tulip flume WTF

[tulip flume]

||oh yeah the shamans r back apparently ||

[carmine axle]

YO

THERES SO MUCH LORE

TO THIS

[tulip flume]

||yeah i thought tthat one shaman in crossing roads was t he last one but ig not||

[carmine axle]

WAIT

I KNEW THAT DOOR WAS GONNA BE USED

I SCREENSHOTTED IT AT THE BEGINNING OF MY PLAYTHROUGH

[short gate]

welcome to act 3

[tulip flume]

||im just waiting for mossbag to make a throughout breakdown of all the stuff going on, especially these snail shamans managing to make a trap to litterally bring the void all the way to pharloom||

[short gate]

||void isnt inherent to Hallownest, hence the abyss area under Pharloom||

||assuming these areas exists on a planet, the void would be like, the core of it||

[carmine axle]

dude this is so weird

[tulip flume]

||ohhhh thats right, for a second i thought void just happened to appear under hallownest but i forgot there was a really old civilization before hallownest was a thing||

||so i wonder if every kingdom has an abyss underneath, and if so void is a primodial entity||

||actually it wouldnt be farfetched to assume, grimm has been running around kingdoms and seems to know about void and the pale kings ambition||

[short gate]

what are the other kingdom names ? i forgor them
ik you have 3/4 names in the cage room before the queen fight

[tulip flume]

||Sandsea wastes, Blackbarrens, City of Steel, idk the fourth one||

[short gate]

first one is just the general area between kingdoms, isnt it ?

[tulip flume]

im fairly certain it is

tbh these just might be unconfirmed areas rather than kingdoms

[short gate]

yeah

[carmine axle]

||WHER AM I BRO LMAO||

DUDE

THIS IS TOO COOOL;

[short gate]

||Abyss|| moment

[carmine axle]

DUDE

||I GOT TO THE LAVA RISING SEQUENCE AND IT WAS SO PEAK, I FELT LIKE A NINJA DOING THAT FIRST TRY||

[short gate]

Now do the other one

[carmine axle]

||WTF TROBBIO'S BACK???!???!?!?!?!?||

[tulip flume]

||no way they added the coin gun fromm terraria||

[mossy kettle]

TROBBBBIOOOOOO

[short gate]

i missed it the first time i explored that area
had to look up online where to find the last 2 tools i was missing

[brittle glade]

||it's also gated behind one of the game's 4 simple key locks, along with a shedload of rosaries||

[short gate]

||I mean, i saw the rosarie sign, so i used my first key there, lol
I knew it was an investment||

[brittle glade]

btw ||have you unlocked green prince's jail cell?||

[short gate]

I've 100% the game, i just need to beat ||3rd lace fight||

And get like, the last 2 memento i'm missing

[brittle glade]

funnily enough even though the endings were datamined I managed to get week 1 ||true ending||

[short gate]

I mean, i managed to get true ending without any spoiler, all on my own too

[brittle glade]

keep in mind most of week 1 stuff was pre-wiki getting filled out so if you got a week 1 ||act 3 completion|| you're pretty much one of the top ~0.5% players (some people got week 1 100% or steel soul which is even more insane)

[left osprey]

Got the speedrun achievement :D

Love the speedruns for hk and silksong

I was like 3x the wr because I fumbled some of my splits HARD (||died in the mist/fell out the bottom like 4 times||) as well as routing in 2 masks to make the endgame stuff manageable

[left osprey]

||I managed a 0.1% by beating phantom day 2 which is neat||

[carmine axle]

how does one even route in 2 masks lol, theres like no rosaries available anywhere

[short gate]

the patch that helps with the beginging being more friendly is out

enemies drop a bit more rosaries
its noticeable on the scrubbing guys that are under the citadel for example
they used to drop between 1-3 and now they drop 3-5

[left osprey]

Only 1 of them costed any rosaries

The ones I got were: ||far fields one after cloak, shellwood one then bench warped out to avoid the actually hard part and to save time, after getting needolin and selling relics go down to bonebottom to buy the one there, as well as grab the one out front of wormways, and the one in weavenest atla, benchwarping back from both. After that I grabbed the one in deep docks. Once in act 2, there's one to the left of cogwork core and one in whispering vaults you go right past anyway||

I did route too much money into it, if i do it again I'll probably cut that down a bit

Honestly this games route is way more accessible than hk's, that one has some really tough skips and getting upgrades is a bit more out of the way

Its probably harder with stuff like the forum but just beating the bosses feel easier than like. Watcher knights with no upgrades. I think aggressive play to save time on bosses is much harder however

[carmine axle]

ohhhh

[carmine axle]

yea facetanking is much less of an option with silksong bosses spamming double damage like salt bae spams salt

[carmine axle]

i mean i feel like speedrun for HK is still very easily doable

the bosses are easier in hollow knight by miles

theres like 10 different skips you can use, and they're not really that difficult

of course if you want to get into queen's gardens you'll have to do crystal dash skip, but honestly isma's tear isn't really that far out of the way for 5 hours

[left osprey]

well yeah, i was comparing the any% routes that are being done at the moment

[left osprey]

watchers >.<
with 5 hp and a nail that tickles them they're pretty damn rough without any iframe abilities to get you out of tough situations

also queens gardens isnt easy with no upgrades, and after the skip dieing is very bad there

but yeah the 5 hour achievement is chill

id say silksongs is probably harder? simply because more game

[short gate]

queens garden ?
dont u just get isma tear and call it a day ?

[tulip flume]

Idk if i should start steelsoul before they add godmaster

There are some bosses i know i cant first try

I could like train on a specific boss on another file

My plan is ingenious

[carmine axle]

i mean i usually route in desolate dive yk

[tulip flume]

I just found out you can dash down bruh wtf

[carmine axle]

its just dashmaster mechanics

[carmine axle]

||FINALLY||

[tulip flume]

||i did the silk song path of pain ||

||honestly more easier than hollow knight ngl||

||DLC is probably gonna add the actual equivalent of it ||

[short gate]

||it's just a lot of needle grab + double jump, and a bunch of pogo||
||What made it increasingly hard when i attempted it was the fact i'm stupid and forgot i could hit the worm guys to regen my health||

[tulip flume]

||lol, i found that out when i slapped them the first time i saw em||

[short gate]

||I mean, i did that too
But it didn't tilt in my head that i could just, regen with them||

[tulip flume]

||goofy ahh||

||also i wonder if you do shakra's and garmond's quest they both team up with you in the high halls gauntlet, that would be so cinema ||

[short gate]

||garmond has a quest ?||
||other than the one where you kill him||

[tulip flume]

||yea i think, you can get him to help you if you find him above the high vaults and challenge him to a duel||

[carmine axle]

||FREAKING FINLALLY||

[carmine axle]

@tulip flume ||red memory was peak. so, so peak. SO, SO, SO PEAKKK||

||here we go||

||SHE SAID THE THING, SHE SAID THE THINGGGGG||

[tulip flume]

Absolute SHAW 🙏 🙏 🙏

Good luck

[carmine axle]

i dipped out of there

im gonna try and get more gear before fighting

i barely beat ||skarrsinger karmelita, and the only reason why was because on her last phase i spammed cogflies and volt zappers on her so she melted away||

[tulip flume]

rip

||yeah karmelita kept fking me up too i just used up all the tacks and sawblades to kick her ass||

[tulip flume]

||i managed to beat her using mostly my needle, i feel like all the crazy stuff she throws at you in phase 2 and 3, i have to focus on going in melee instead of also thinking in the back of my head i gotta throw like a tack at her, its weird but using a tool in the middle of her void projectile spams kinda messes up my flow||

[carmine axle]

||so uhhhh||

[tulip flume]

||nice u made it to the surface||

[carmine axle]

||path of pain ahh platforming fr fr||

[tulip flume]

||ong, tho less pressure with the worms downlow||

[carmine axle]

||true, but i sometimes got hit by them so it was a bit annoying||

[mossy kettle]

Lmao this was my exact reaction

[carmine axle]

||ok so i was getting cooked, switched to wanderer's crest, and first tried clover dancers LMAO||

[tulip flume]

||i found a psalm cylinder in the whiteward and upon hearing its contents....||

||put me back in deepnest bro 💀💀💀||

[carmine axle]

||omfg can lost lace stop teleporting right on top of me -_-||

[carmine axle]

@tulip flume ||I JUST GOT TRUE ENDING||

||THAT WASS SUCH CINEMA FDAFASDJFADSHFKJADSHFKASDHFLKADSJ||

[tulip flume]

||ikr, our boy is alive 😭 (i think)||

[carmine axle]

||HES ALIVE ALRIGHT||

[tulip flume]

||finally||

[mossy kettle]

CINEMA

[carmine axle]

its just so good, ||i beat her with 7 masks, 1 pale oil upgrade, and 5 spool extensions||

[mossy kettle]

i beat her with 9 2 and 8

it took me ages

she was obliterating me

[carmine axle]

i figured out her patterns, she's a really good boss

if you want ill tell u what i found ig bc it made some attacks really punishable

[mossy kettle]

I can do it pretty consistently now

i've learned the attacks

just took a while for me to get some of them down

[carmine axle]

yea lol

even then, her second and third phase is a visual overload, so i still struggle a bit

[carmine axle]

just got a psalm cylinder from whiteward

WTF IS THIS

[mossy kettle]

research

[tulip flume]

Tbf, one is god and void, the other is half god half spider

[short gate]

Hornet is part void part weaver tho, no ?

Child of Hera and the Wyrm

[brittle glade]

not part void, but part god/divinity from pale king

[short gate]

wasn't void used in her making ?

[brittle glade]

to clarify she is a child of the pale king, but instead of being a creation of white lady and pale king like the vessels were, she was born to herrah, a weaver (who doesn't possess any divinity, mind) - just because she was an offspring of the pale king doesn't mean void is automatically involved

she actually mentions it in the first game saying she lacks the crucial emptiness of vessels/siblings (incl. hollow knight & the knight/LoS) despite their shared heritage

[short gate]

mhm

[mossy kettle]

there is no void in hornet

[carmine axle]

wyrms arent made of void

[carmine axle]

MOVEEEEEE

[tulip flume]

always bet on void hornet theory

[carmine axle]

||ITS THE LEGEND HIMSELF||

[tulip flume]

Leaked dlc content

[short gate]

5 masks, no heal, no bench, no tools or upgrade
just do it raw

(with diagonal pogo)

[mossy kettle]

The diagonal pogo is great

[tulip flume]

beast crest pogo

[mossy kettle]

Beast crest isn't really designed for pogoing i think

[carmine axle]

btw this is a minute detail, but i love that when ur taught melodies on ur needolin, if there's an npc, they actually sing the melody out of tune or slightly out of tune, meaning that they're teaching you the melody by singing

it would be so easy for them to just add in a random track, but they added this tiny little detail

[short gate]

You can make most NPCs sing by playing the needling near them

[mossy kettle]

yeah, pretty much every npc does it

enemies too

[tulip flume]

There are some bosses you can skip before getting needolin, ||(sister splinter, fourth chorus) ||i wanna know if they have needolin dialogue if you go back after beating ||widow|| since most people fight through them

[carmine axle]

yea but the ones such as ||ballador, bell beast, and the snail shamans|| all sing the melody to you

[carmine axle]

GG

[short gate]

i need to get back to silksong
gotta grind the final boss

[tulip flume]

76 hours

[carmine axle]

half of that was sleeping in bellhart 😭

[carmine axle]

have you not beat it

[short gate]

I haven't beaten ||Lace 3|| no

[tulip flume]

lock in

[carmine axle]

lock in, also have u beaten absrad before

[short gate]

nah, i dont hate myself enough to do pantheon 5

[carmine axle]

||LL|| is easier than p5 and absrad, so theres that

its more of pure vessel type difficulty

[short gate]

yeah ik
but i just tried like, twice

[tulip flume]

except pure vessel is a more exhilarating fight

[carmine axle]

not really, i find it really easy now similar to ||LL||, but the stakes are higher for the true final boss

[short gate]

She just parries way. Too. Much.

[carmine axle]

the parries are really easy to counter similar to pure vessel

for pure vessel u shadow dash right through his parry

for ||lost lace||, you jump over her head

[short gate]

Yeah you just jump for LL

[carmine axle]

also what crest

[short gate]

Hunter

[carmine axle]

oh

i used wanderer's crest

[short gate]

Because increased damaged every hit goes brbrbr

[carmine axle]

cuz yk, fastest swings in the game

[short gate]

I use wanderer when exploring

Hunter on bosses

[carmine axle]

oh then u should try and play radiant for it

like

go all out

barbed bracelet

flintslate

flea brew

longclaw

weavelight

pollip pouch

dice

[short gate]

Oh no, I'm not THAT glass canon

I still get hit

A lot

[carmine axle]

hunter stocks finna go up for radiant difficulty

but until then

i need my dopamine from those CRITICAL HITS baby

also cuz wanderer has the highest swing rate of any crest

so its basically free and consistent dmge no matter what

[short gate]

I need my quick 4 masks heal after i get shredded because i failed to predict her pattern 7 times in a row

[tulip flume]

she only parries when you're close to her so u gotta anticipate that, she also stops parrying in phase 3

[short gate]

I haven't gone past phase one yet iirc

[carmine axle]

oh right, i never noticed that because i was too focused on spamming my nail

[short gate]

Like i said, i tried like, twice and dipped because it was past midnight

And i haven't pushed myself to try again since

[carmine axle]

oh true

[short gate]

That was like, 2 weeks ago or sum

[carmine axle]

have u got all tools

[short gate]

I have 100% the game, i just need LL

[carmine axle]

oh gg

[short gate]

I said that way back then

[carmine axle]

i beat LL at 60% 😭

idk how i missed so much

but i missed a lot

[short gate]

I tried to get as many stuff as possible before act 3

[carmine axle]

"guys new low % true ending wr just dropped!"

[tulip flume]

probably

but hunter full focus has highest dps

wanderer is really great for stocking on silk

[carmine axle]

yea but like, how long are you really gonna be keeping up that full focus bar

especially if ur most ppl and keep getting hit by stoobid attacks

[tulip flume]

using the brew helps a lot but yeah

[carmine axle]

true

[short gate]

I saw a guy on yt managing to reach The Slab without unlocking bell beast, and thus he got stuck (until death)

[carmine axle]

i hated the hunter pogo so much that i used reaper for most of the game

just because it was more comfortable to pogo using reaper

and then i switched to wanderer because ||clover dancers|| took forever, and beat them firs try

never looked back since

[short gate]

I can't trade my instant heal for vampirism heal, nuh uh

[carmine axle]

?

thats beast crest

and i hate beast crest heck no

that pogo is infinitely worse than hunter

[tulip flume]

i dont like how reaper has the same damage as hunter, like it sais "deal heavy strikes" so i thought it would hit a little bit harder considering how slow it is

[short gate]

Isn't it the same with reaper ?

[carmine axle]

wanderer pogo is metronome

[short gate]

Or was it Witch

[carmine axle]

reaper crest is a wide arc

but mostly the same

witch pogo is anime pogo

hunter pogo is pythagorean theorem

shaman pogo is pogoing on nothing

architect pogo is pythagorean theorem but a bit easier

[short gate]

Oh wait, i remembered wrong, i use reaper and not wanderer when i'm not doing bosses

I forgot wanderer was the speedy attack boi

[carmine axle]

and beast pogo is doing multivariable calculus to calculate the exact arc length between you and the boss, as well as finding the differential equation to model the rate of change of your height in proportion to your horizontal movement

[short gate]

I only used wanderer on the dead scientist assistant

[carmine axle]

yk it was really funny

that was a boss that i used architects for

where

i went random bullsh go

spammed all my cogwheels

tacks

and flies

[short gate]

Karmelita :

[carmine axle]

the guy quickdropped in 20 seconds flat

[carmine axle]

karmelita is too beefy, it would never work

.

[short gate]

I spammed tacks and spike traps all over the arena, it dealt a good amount of damages

[carmine axle]

true, i just spammed all my cogflies once i got to phase 3

as well as cogwheels

[short gate]

She could unfortunately trigger the spike traps without touching it

Trobbio can remove all traps with the tornado attacks, sadly

I also found it funny you can actually kill unkillable ennemies by throwing bombs at them

Like the maggots

[carmine axle]

trobbio i found really easy cuz i could pogo easily using reapers

[carmine axle]

voltvessels GO

[short gate]

The only difficulty on Trobbio was the randomness of the glitter bombs

[carmine axle]

i just ran to the corner for those

[tulip flume]

i struggle more on his tornado move, he whips that shi out so fast whenevr i get close to him i can hardly react quick enough

[tulip flume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFZhqcPQfFs

[tulip flume]

also i just found out taunting increases your next needle strike

[carmine axle]

oh yea lost sinner

it doesnt seem THAT hard tbh

like in comparison to bosses like mystic ze'mer or mighty hegemol at least

[tulip flume]

someone should make lost savage beastfly

[mossy kettle]

Honestly I've seen a worse idea

[short gate]

Every boss in a single room, all at once

[tulip flume]

wouldnt even wish for this on my worst enemy

[short gate]

Acid guy will just die by itself, it's fine

[carmine axle]

uhhhhhhh... (you can get to act 3 without savage beastfly quest, guess what happens)

[carmine axle]

GGGGG

[tulip flume]

blud forgot to fight shakra

[carmine axle]

i didnt know 😭 i was in sands of karak the whole time, and i missed garmond as well

ill fight her in steel soul :>

[tulip flume]

better lock in

there's some exclusive content in steel soul i heard

[carmine axle]

yea a whole boss from what ive heard

[vestal crag]

(not a very good one)

[short gate]

I know that thing behind the church at the start
That's about it

[tulip flume]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bO1zqc7hYiE

not even a month yet and modded community finding ways to suffer already

[mossy kettle]

They made a triple damage mod like day 2 ok 😭

[tulip flume]

oh you're right i forgot some insane person made that

[brittle glade]

"git gud better"

[tulip flume]

im getting my ass kicked on FAR FIELDS of all places i nearly died twice on steel soul

im sooooooo fried when i get to bilewater

[carmine axle]

RIP

i just threw a sub 2 hour run away because i died in the mist and respawned in the bellhart bench 😭

yea im rsing, this is cooked

[tulip flume]

nah thats tragic

[carmine axle]

far fields of all places bro 😭

i cooked that area in 10 minutes, bc of those STUPID HOKERS

[carmine axle]

yk whats gonna be a nightmare for all steel soul players? high halls forum and groal gauntlet.

but i saw bluesr use a rather obvious method to easily cook up groal into pieces

he basically just used full length volt filament threadstorms

[tulip flume]

oh im not worried about high halls i managed to first try it on my speedrun save and that was without any tools, the groal gauntlet will be a little annoying but you can cheese the arena pretty easily, going THROUGH bilewater itself is gonna be a pain however

i've gotten much better though, i died so many times first time playing, but i managed ot reach act 2 at least

actually what I am worried about is the ||void touched enemy gauntlet at the start of act 3, i died like 3 times there cuz these monkey devs decided to remove all your tools at the start of it||

I've been pretty much using the reaper crest for exploration only, using wander crest is too risky

[carmine axle]

wanderer is a great crest, but that down pogo on reapers man

even though its a bit different from normal, that 180 degree coverage in a wide arc is just too good to pass up

hey did you know that if you compare the price of the desk bought from frey in bellhart for 380 rosaries, with this desk costing 490 dollars, the conversion becomes 1 rosary per 1.2 dollars

which means that, loam, who gets 1 rosary per 45 seconds 60% of the time, earns about 57 USD per hour

which is more than most doctors

😭

[tulip flume]

dude has insane stamina to run 8 hours straight

[mossy kettle]

weava

[short gate]

Dodging and weaving

[carmine axle]

which weavenest was this

[mossy kettle]

bilewater one

[carmine axle]

oh murkil or smth

murglin

[tulip flume]

Straight up weaving it

[mossy kettle]

thingymajig

[tulip flume]

W

[tulip flume]

fugg

9 hrs of my life gone

[carmine axle]

RIP

what killed you

[tulip flume]

uhhhhhhhh

you know the wisp thicket

there's this parkour to the right where u gotta climb up dodging spikes and those fireflys

i underestimated their trajectory and got annilhated

i dont think the item up there is worth it anymore

[carmine axle]

oh that thing

for the mask shard

.-.

yea uhhh

did u not use magma bell

[tulip flume]

no 💀

i did think about it

[carmine axle]

what did you swap it out for 😭

the bench was right there

[tulip flume]

i used the mask

i thought i could just quickly run and grab it

but these things

have such insane tracking

[carmine axle]

but dont you have 2 blue slots ??!

[carmine axle]

theyo nly start tracking after a certain amount of time

and they move in a straight line after that

[tulip flume]

ik

i got the shard and i tried to run away but there was like 3 camping the corner

i kinda panicked and decided to ball it

as you can see it did not go as planned

[carmine axle]

nooooo why didn't you save skip 😭

[tulip flume]

i had the injector band and multibinder equipped, best combo ngl

[tulip flume]

i probably should have

cuz i also wanna try and get the 30hr completion achivement

along with the steel soul

[carmine axle]

oh fair

im gonna ry and get that separately

with the speedrun achievements

im looking for a mod to practice speedrun splits rn

[mossy kettle]

don't worry that is very easy

if it's not your first playthrough you will get it

that's just kinda how it works

[carmine axle]

anyone know a mod that can practice splits?

like skips and such

cuz ive got the guarana skip down pretty well

but the beastfly pogo skip is kicking my butt

[mossy kettle]

for the speedrun achievements?

[carmine axle]

as well as the craw skip for the judge route

[carmine axle]

yea

[mossy kettle]

you really don't need any skips

[carmine axle]

yea but sub 3 hour would be cool

[mossy kettle]

those things are so incredibly lenient

On my run i spent like 40m dying to high halls so i went out of my way to find garmond and cheese it

and i still got a 3h + a few mins time

[carmine axle]

ohhh ok

im tryna get sub 3 or sub 2 tho

and skips would help a lot

[tulip flume]

yea cuz i made it through act 2, got 2 melodies done 9 hrs in so i had a pretty good run, and then felt like trying to get more masks before i did the archtech melody,

[carmine axle]

im probably gonna route in a mask

just so i dont get cooked in lace 2

or high halls

[tulip flume]

do the phantom skip

[carmine axle]

as well as a craftmetal so i can get the cogflies

[carmine axle]

???

you mean the mist route?

i would, but its so rng reliant

[tulip flume]

yea

[carmine axle]

i jsut dont think that i wanna do that yk

even though cross stitch is the best skill in the game

but atp if i cant perfect the craw skip

i might have to do the mist

[mossy kettle]

I wouldn't call it that

[carmine axle]

but that one requires a chalamet skip D:

[carmine axle]

its 2 rooms with needolin flies

1 room with side exit

to the halfway point

[tulip flume]

chalamet skip is the least of your worries ngl

[carmine axle]

2 more rooms with needolin i think

and then right exit

iirc

[mossy kettle]

yeah

[tulip flume]

just get the reaper crest rq and its light work

[carmine axle]

but sometimes theres no rooms with right exit

[carmine axle]

true, but hunter has that down pogo with faster movement

[mossy kettle]

ok but you're talking about like less than a minute of timeloss

You really don't need to worry about these optimizations

[carmine axle]

i feel like judge is a lot more consistent at least for me

[mossy kettle]

I think i died in mist twice on my speedrun

[carmine axle]

wait does the greymoor bell usually require the craw gauntlet

if so im deffo doing the mist

cuz i am NOT doing craws again

[mossy kettle]

it usually does

[carmine axle]

those guys pmo

[mossy kettle]

but you can do a pogo skip

[carmine axle]

yea im gonna have to practice so much

[mossy kettle]

Also before you go and start practice a bunch of skips

[carmine axle]

are there mods that allow u to practice specific rooms

[mossy kettle]

just do a run

like. start doing one and go fast

no skips or anything

you'll see how lenient that achievement really is

[tulip flume]

he's gotta study the map first

at least for citadel

[mossy kettle]

also get garmond and zaza lmao they let you cheese the high halls arena

it's really nice

[carmine axle]

i dont think they help that much

and ill have to run in to them abunch of time si think

[mossy kettle]

they don't for most of it

but they help a ton in the final wave because you can entirely cheese it

and you only need to encounter them twice actually

[tulip flume]

you do have to fight them first no?

then they show up in front of the arena

[mossy kettle]

yeah

but it's genuinely t he easiest fight in the game by far

and I'm not exaggerating

I've fought them twice and haven't been hit once

[tulip flume]

tbf, he's not trying to kill you

||the Lost version of him killed me more times than i'd like to admit||

shakra too

i think it would be cool if godmaster gave him and shakra a challenging fight

[mossy kettle]

I find shakra quite challenging because of just how much she teleports

and because of how fast she is

[short gate]

wait you can fight Shakra ??

[mossy kettle]

yea

You need some pretty specific conditions

[short gate]

i can see that, never had to fight her or garmond

[mossy kettle]

Garmond is also quite specific

i missed those two on my first playthrough as well

[carmine axle]

same here, i died like 2 times to him because of adjusting to his attacks

[tulip flume]

[tulip flume]

ight time to run up another steel soul

this time i have a cunning plan

on bosses or treacherous parkour areas i know i'll get smacked around a lot, i'll simply use the lifeblood vial to shake off a couple hits

[short gate]

use the crest that allows you to craft tools without a bench, so you can stack enough lifeblood to have regenerative health

[tulip flume]

yea thats what i was thinking too, i might actually have to learn the move set if im gonna be using it more often

[carmine axle]

architects crest actually has some of the higher damage outputs crest wise

because it multihits

[short gate]

But lord knows you can't pogo with that

[tulip flume]

yeah the pogo i'll struggle with more

wish it was just a simple stab down instead diagonal, but it would probably make the delver drill obsolete

[short gate]

It's just that you have almost no reach and don't bounce up much with the Archi crest

[carmine axle]

u gotta hold the button on down pogo

if u want to get the full extension

[tulip flume]

i think this item is new, i never found it in my other playthrough

mfw they hide an actual good yellow tool in a permadeath mode

[carmine axle]

Magnetite dice be like:

[tulip flume]

well ig thats not bad either

[mossy kettle]

It's not new they just decided to replace the most useless yellow with an actually good one on steel soul specifically

[tulip flume]

The dead bug purse i think right? that thing was incredibly niche

[carmine axle]

guys what wins

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-gif-23741516

or

[mossy kettle]

Why those

Are they particularly powerful

[carmine axle]

*special move: HOLLOW PURPLE

(every boss gets flashbanged by every voltvessel at once)

[tulip flume]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZAaZuL4_nIM

Quicksling having an actual use

[mossy kettle]

Shoutout to snare setter for being the highest damaging tool IM THE GAME and then being permanently removed from your inventory

[tulip flume]

thats only if you decide to do... "that" but still rip

[tulip flume]

who the heck is this guy

bro killed my boy styx 😭

[carmine axle]

its the same person frfr

[tulip flume]

dude creeps me tf out

[short gate]

Is this a steel soul thing ?

[mossy kettle]

Yea

[mossy kettle]

beast crest is so ass

[short gate]

🗣️ 🔥

[mossy kettle]

I'm doing a beast crest playthrough because i wanted to try and get used to it so i can actually play with it. But yeah nah it's so ass

[tulip flume]

i think its meant to be used in boss fights, the pogo sucks in exploration

[mossy kettle]

The pogo sucks for bosses too

you pretty much have no downwards attack

you just have a slightly angled side attack

[tulip flume]

idk if im gonna use architech crest tbh, ive been using silk thread so much after realizing how ridiculously versatile it is

[mossy kettle]

nevermind it's kinda goated for big bosses

I absolutely obliterated sister splinter and last judge

[carmine axle]

yk what's even better

hunter crest

highest possible dps crest

so long as you dont get hit

[mossy kettle]

i know i main hunter

[tulip flume]

They nerfed silk thread im sad 😭

But they did buff cross stitch and sharpdart

A worthy sacrifice

[mossy kettle]

new patch or are these the old changes

[tulip flume]

New patch

[mossy kettle]

interesting

[carmine axle]

what is silk thread

threadstorm?

[tulip flume]

Yeah

[carmine axle]

oh

what are the numbers now

cuz i remember it dealing like 235 ish damage

yea i crunched the numbers

235 ish damage with full thread storm + shaman + volt filament

[tulip flume]

Not sure

I think it was 16 dmg per hit with full nail upgrade?

Plus the addition hits that have reduced dmg if you repeatedly press the button

Just a slight dps decrease but yea just slap on volt to fix it

[mossy kettle]

21

it's the base nail 5 + 16 from the needle upgrades

[tulip flume]

Oh ok

Correct me if im wrong but the volt filment has its own tick dmg?

But less subtle

[carmine axle]

volt filament i think is a damage buff + DOT

[carmine axle]

i think thread storm for the first 5 does 0.75 needle damage per hit

and then does 0.33 needle damage for the 5 extended hits

[tulip flume]

Really wish we had some sort of ng+

There are so many wacky loadouts you can do compared to hk

[carmine axle]

ng+ mode: *one taps bell beast with a thread storm

[tulip flume]

They could increase the HP of the bosses or drop needle upgrades to compensate

[mossy kettle]

I wish some of the crests weren't unlocked 95% of the way through the game (cough cough shaman)

(kinda architect)

I like doing full play throughs with specific crests cause it lets you get used to something you otherwise probably wouldn't

I can actually use beast crest now it's cool

[tulip flume]

Ikr, i really like shaman crest with its ranged attacks but by then you’re already accustomed to maining the crest that you’re comfortable running around in, especially the difficulty jump between acts

And also by then hunter’s crest has been fully awakened making it probably the best crest in the game

[mossy kettle]

I hope they add a third gamemode like they did with godhome in a dlc but make the gamemode actually good

[carmine axle]

Idk man God seeker was convenient af

[mossy kettle]

imagine that but it's an actual gamemode

newgame+ kinda thing

[tulip flume]

hope the dlc gives us weaver queen crest

(ik there's a glitch but still...)

[carmine axle]

i hope the dlc allows us to get an epilogue

so that we can see the old areas such as verdania and the coral forest restored

[tulip flume]

there we go

just two left to go

that was only the "final" boss and i was still pretty nervous

if I die now im gonna cry

[tulip flume]

||probably through the elegy thing to enter memories||

[mossy kettle]

I assume they'll do the opposite and allow us to go into the past if anything

especially since they added like a whole "go into this person's dreams of the past" song and used it for a grand total of 5 things

[carmine axle]

CHAT

WE WIN

https://tenor.com/view/mib-absolute-radiance-radiance-hollow-knight-transition-gif-16547993163651766116

[mossy kettle]

Where's this?

[carmine axle]

its the new steam beta for silksong

its releasing soon

[mossy kettle]

I dont see that in the changelog

[carmine axle]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1030300/discussions/0/506216918921794871/

its the second to last item listed

[carmine axle]

MIST DONE

[carmine axle]

RUNNING

GO

2H 40M

NOT EVEN CLOSE

also i routed in cogflies after bellhart lol for the craftmetal

and then got it before the high halls gauntlet

that way i didnt have to do garmond quest

[tulip flume]

Mine was around 3 hr 10 min, mostly getting my shit rocked by widow, cogwork parkour and lace 2

[carmine axle]

i rocked widow first try easy, cogwork core parkour is actually really skippable if you use hunter's crest

and lace 2, well that makes sense lol

what really held me back were those STUPID ASS SKIPS AND THE MIST

i got COOKED by the mist

i lost count of the number of times i fell into the void

and i wasted like 3 minutes on beastfly pogo, which makes it only a minor timesave

and chalamet skip was so awkward because the mf KEPT GOING DOWN

[tulip flume]

I somehow got lucky with the mist

Most skips were pretty easy with reaper crest especially that chalamet guy, just had to smack the mobs once, cloak, wait for it to go higher, repeat

I think it was difficult for me cuz Im used to using the wings to parkour to places

Locked tf in on that high hall gauntlet, that was glorious

[carmine axle]

oh you routed in reapers crest

interesting

i just skipped it bc i felt like i didnt need it

(also higher dps)

[tulip flume]

It was mostly for easier pogoing through parkour, I switched to hunter's for bosses

Reaper needs a dmg buff man , carried me throughout steel soul

"Heavy Arcing Swings" (has same damage as the tiny ahh strikes of Wanderer)

[carmine axle]

it does .-. im surprised that those slow ass swings got me through most of my playthrough

[carmine axle]

ok so

godhome mod is actually amazing

like wtf LMAO

[tulip flume]

uh idk if my HP is supposed to do that

[carmine axle]

just get a bit more lifeblood :>

[mossy kettle]

i think they fixed that in the latest patch

[carmine axle]

just first tried absrad after not playing hollow knight for a month

[tulip flume]

got the gland

atp i'll stick with architech and become plasmified for any bosses or encounters

i cannot risk getting below even close to half HP for how far I've gotten

if i get too damaged in a fight, I fall back and wait to slowly heal up, call it a coward strat but i will not lose 15 hours of my life

[carmine axle]

gg lmao

[carmine axle]

you could also... save and quit

[short gate]

thats the cheater strat

[tulip flume]

ik i can do that but it just wouldnt feel like i've really beaten it

[carmine axle]

fair enough

[tulip flume]

its mostly really difficult with no godhome to train on the more difficult bosses, the best I can do is look at a vid to know what to look out for

||I looked at tormented trobblio and bell eater yeah fk that dawg im spamming the hell out of cogflies 💀||

at the very least, dying isnt to worry about in the memories

[carmine axle]

oh

yk

you can download godhome mod

if u want i can send u the link and how to download it

u just need bepinex 5._

and maybe speedrunner debug mod to get past some softlocks

because godhome mod just teleports you to the boss's location

[tulip flume]

ik its a thing but ion feel like modding atm, im pretty close to the end anyway i probably can just wing it, just need to get the 3 hearts (not risking fighting through seth) grab whatever missing items I need for 100%, then wrap everything up

i'll get into modding later, i do wanna try a randomizer I enjoyed it a lot in hollow knight

[carmine axle]

beast crest skips finna carry fr

[mossy kettle]

thankfully tormented trobbio isn't required

that guy is genuinely the hardest boss for me rn

his attacks have like .3 seconds of reaction time

well one attack specifically

[short gate]

A friend asking the real questions

[tulip flume]

dont you kill at least 1 gay person in both games

[tulip flume]

he can soemtimes throw six bombs at once and sometimes he does an immediate tornado attack before the bombs blow up like tf you need touhou levels of reaction time for that

but its ok cross stitch carries the fight

[short gate]

Grimm and Trobbio ?
They don't die tho

[carmine axle]

no, nailmaster and green prince

[short gate]

True

[tulip flume]

LETS GOOOOO GG (massive act 3 spoilers)

i can now

rest

until DLC adds like 10 more achivements

[carmine axle]

GG

im gonna have to beat steel soul after speed completion

im probably gonna start the speed completion run soon

[tulip flume]

you can knock out both of them in one run like I did

generally you just need all tools, crafting kit upgrades, crests, fleas, silk skills, masks, spool fragments, also eva

[carmine axle]

oh thats not that bad

also

what do yall think of this quote

"Humility is tricky, especially when “practiced” - When someone feels proud of their humility, it’s usually the ego wearing a mask. The virtue becomes a way to feel superior rather than sincere." - Denis Zhdanov, 2025

[carmine axle]

yea but i prefer to take my steel soul run slow

especially since

(i wanna get purple quill on steel soul)

[tulip flume]

fair enough

[tulip flume]

cut content (real)

[mossy kettle]

what is hornet doing

[tulip flume]

https://youtu.be/EX5xvB3zGgs?si=s6-Goiw44B9_Jmjz

Looks like they finally got him in the game

[carmine axle]

No air stall on lost lace looks painful

[mossy kettle]

What do you use air stall for on lost lace

[tulip flume]

Probably the three dashes she does

[tulip flume]

https://youtu.be/Q3qJbwExnZE?si=XNemWyl5eNejdwDX

This actually looks really good

[carmine axle]

guys its only a matter of time before the silkposting starts for fruma 💀

[brittle glade]

there appears to be a quite significant following of Hollow Knight here, so why not

[brittle glade]

@steel ember I need to start a steel soul stream at some point, feel like I could do one after conquering pantheon of hallownest

[steel ember]

steel soul is scary

[brittle glade]

a few things can be done to somewhat rectify the "oh god this is hard", which is:
a) use fragile heart, if you die it's game over anyway
b) be more careful with gameplay and don't play as reckless
c) dream bosses don't end the game if you die so KEKW

[steel ember]

yea the fragile charms will be funny

strength my beloved

[brittle glade]

the only part of the run I'm concerned about is the radiance kill

if I can KO absolute radiance, I can KO radiance, but as radiance is technically not in the dream world, die at radiance = here lies your save file

other "I am concerned" parts of the run:

1. platforming challenges needed to reach sheo
2. platforming challenges that lead to some pretty baller unlocks
3. N O S K
4. colosseum of fools, which is a pretty good way to farm geo, but is basically a marathon stage
5. certain dream warriors, such as markoth and xero, until I get strong enough to deal with them

[steel ember]

oh wait thank god am i not the only one who hates nosk

[brittle glade]

nosk is annoying, I don't dislike it to the point of hating it, it's just annoying

[steel ember]

it couldve been that when i started attempting nosk i just wasnt very equipped but

i didnt realize you could just cheese his dashes by standing next to the platform

so i was struggling

[brittle glade]

you can't pogo it reliably because it will jump

[steel ember]

lol

[brittle glade]

the best way of dealing with him is to KO him as quickly as possible once you unlock descending dark

[steel ember]

i think by the time i got to nosk i didnt even have howling wraiths acquired yet

nor my nail upgraded at all

[brittle glade]

also how are you doing in pantheon of sage

[steel ember]

lol funny you mention that

[brittle glade]

• your upgrades

[steel ember]

i did 2 attempts like

10 minutes earlier and died to sly twice

zote withers me down so hard for the next 3 bosses

i hate that boss

[brittle glade]

hmm

I can run an "ascended" diff run for zote if you want to see it

and zote specifically

[steel ember]

hmmm sure go for it

i actually asked shots for tips just like a couple minutes ago lol

for zote

he feels so rng

[brittle glade]

get shots in there as well if he's awake

will stream in general

[steel ember]

idk if he joins vcs

ok

lol

shots told me exactly to abuse the hell out of descending dark

i need to get into a habit of using my spells more

[brittle glade]

descending dark just turns any land-bound boss into a joke

hmm, I should stream radiant runs

[steel ember]

the immunity it gives you during the animation is nuts

[brittle glade]

fuck it, pantheon of hallownest stream

[steel ember]

sure ill watch

lol wait wtf

is that new

tiso

getting killed by malek

[steel ember]

ugh markoth

also wow didnt think about using vengeful spirit on the exploding dudes in zote

ill try that

rip

radiance moment

[brittle glade]

as I said, radiance is BS

[steel ember]

should i try streaming pantheon of the sage

ill do 1 run and then i gotta go

[brittle glade]

will be away sadly, need to go

[steel ember]

ah alright

cya then

watching how zote and sly are beaten helps

[brittle glade]

sly is a reflex test

zote is managing all the BS he throws at you

[steel ember]

lol

[brittle glade]

@pearl whale can you confirm if zote is indeed managing all the BS he throws at you

[pearl whale]

can confirm
however still better than markoth without a floor

[brittle glade]

rngmoth is plain annoying

[brittle glade]

it does work, though explosion range means you do need to back away a bit

[steel ember]

oh yea I did pantheon of the sage a bit earlier finally

did 2 attempts

first one got to his final phase the first time

then I beat him the second time

main strategy basically involved running like a little girl

[brittle glade]

the entirety of the fight is hit and run anyway

exploiting openings

(mark of the pride and/or long nail helps)

[steel ember]

ye

[brittle glade]

I highly suggest you practice failed champion, markoth and white defender for pantheon of the knight

soul tyrant is also annoying since it can leave you vulnerable just before pure vessel

no eyes in pantheon of knight is manageable (so is markoth since you have a ground you can stand on), so the major roadblock is soul tyrant -> pure vessel

[steel ember]

hmm soul tyrant I don’t think is too bad but white defender can be hard yea

markoth is. markoth

[brittle glade]

white defender has no stagger whatsoever, it's a DPS race

I defeated white defender when he did 5 masks of dmg so definitely doable on ascended (or for that matter pantheon of the knight)

[brittle glade]

my non-steel test run died at nosk because I'm a dummy and played too aggressively

and didn't realize desolate dive ALSO has iframes

[brittle glade]

@steel ember regular 100% done in <20h, shame that there's no <10h

1 death, and that death is to nosk, I need to focus on not dying for steel soul

[steel ember]

nice

[brittle glade]

turns out I was pretty close

[steel ember]

I do wanna go for most achievements sans the steel soul stuff but I’ve just been kinda busy

[brittle glade]

10h 05m

[steel ember]

I tried pantheon of the knight earlier for 1 attempt

[brittle glade]

speed completion achievement is <20h

[steel ember]

died at soul tyrant lmao

guess U were right

[brittle glade]

soul tyrant is basically faster soul master

[steel ember]

ye

[brittle glade]

but his one attack now has six orbs instead of 4

arranged like a 6 pip die

sadly I don't have a screenshot of the end screen, I do have a screenshot of my save files screen though (team cherry pls add a "game complete" marker to silksong)

112% save file (pure comp, all but three endings unlocked), 100% save file which was my "speedrun" file, 2 empty files for probably steel soul and godmaster

[steel ember]

lmao I got void heart before I did the normal ending so I’m locked out of that ending on my main profile

I think

at least

idr how it works

[brittle glade]

the 2nd one had void heart as well so I didn't bother going any further since I'm shooting for the alternate embrace the void ending

[steel ember]

is that the one where u give the god seeker the flower

[brittle glade]

void heart locks you out of the default ending where ||the knight becomes the vessel alone||

[brittle glade]

yes

[steel ember]

yea oops

[brittle glade]

it does not lock you out of the ending where ||the knight and hornet become sealed in egg temple as vessel and dreamer respectively||

[steel ember]

plan on replaying again eventually anyways for achievements so it’s not too big a deal for me

yea I got that ending after the “true” ending

[brittle glade]

notably the 1st run has the "ritual" ending for grimm troupe, while the 100% I just finished has the "banishment" ending

[steel ember]

is banishment the one where u just beat his dream version

[brittle glade]

also, hall of gods is your friend for bosses you have trouble with

[steel ember]

yea

[brittle glade]

that's ritual

[steel ember]

I was practicing sly a bit

[brittle glade]

banishment is when you get rid of the troupe by ||going back to where you started and destroying the lantern with which you summoned the troupe||

doing so also gets rid of divine so you can't convert charms to unbreakable anymore unless you already did so

[steel ember]

yikes

[brittle glade]

to be fair, all unbreakable charms except strength are too niche

[steel ember]

I found the lantern randomly when exploring howling cliffs

mmm unbreakable greed is kinda useless

[brittle glade]

it's well worth the 15k you spend on unbreakable strength, idk about the other 21k you spend on unbreakable heart and greed

[steel ember]

don’t think I’ve ever used heart

[brittle glade]

fragile heart is useful in steel soul

don't underestimate the extra 2 masks you get

[steel ember]

in all honesty I forget what half the charms do but as I play more I hope I’ll be more familiar

yea I’d imagine it’s good in steel soul

[brittle glade]

all fragile charms are good in steel soul since dying means game over anyway

might as well give you the unbreakable charms from the get go

[steel ember]

strength my beloved

[brittle glade]

steel soul, I only need to hit 100%, so a good chunk of the charms + all mask fragments + all vessel fragments + all bosses (I'll go for ritual again on steel soul)

speaking of godhome, as I said hall of gods is your friend since it allows you to practice bosses (do note that ascended bosses deal double damage, and pantheon of hallownest is on ascended difficulty sans the double damage)

[steel ember]

there’s an achievement for 100% steel soul isn’t there or is it 112

[brittle glade]

100%

I don't think team cherry expects you to hit 112% under 20h, though it's definitely doable

[steel ember]

lmao

[brittle glade]

I'd imagine speedrunners getting well under my 10h target for 100%

especially in steel soul

because why play on normal mode if you're going to not die anyway

[steel ember]

also apparently a lot of people like controllers from what I’ve heard

what do you use

[brittle glade]

keyboard

[steel ember]

I just use mouse and keyboard

[brittle glade]

if I can get a 10h completion (and a pantheon of hallownest clear), then so can you

[steel ember]

hopefully

I haven’t watched any speedruns of the game yet though so I’m not familiar with like

“optimal” paths yet

[brittle glade]

there's a 112% path that I follow on steam guides

well, loosely follow

actually let me take a look at speedrun.com

112% in 3h 11m 28s

these times are ridiculous

[steel ember]

people are crazy

[brittle glade]

and I'm looking at the NMG (no major glitches) category

[steel ember]

speedrunning is fun though

[brittle glade]

any% all glitches runs are even more busted, not even 10 minutes and the game is already beaten

[steel ember]

funny

I can admire speed runners though because I know how difficult it can be

[brittle glade]

speedrunners are masters of their craft

they're crazy good at the game

keep in mind that I could've gotten sub 10h had I skipped path of pain and not meandered around in white palace

I actually went out of my way to do path of pain as well because I could

[steel ember]

is pure vessel just

the boss that requires perfect timing

feel like without perfect timing i can never jump high enough to avoid his dashes

[steel ember]

cool

first radiant boss lol

albeit grimm is kinda easy honestly

fast paced but all his attacks are fairly straightforward and predictable

so its pretty fun

[brittle glade]

grimm is easy but consistent

[steel ember]

ye

[brittle glade]

so you can just dodge everything he throws at you and still get a radiant kill

[steel ember]

p much

[brittle glade]

pure vessel ditto, the only randomness is patterns

[steel ember]

originally i was in hall of gods practicing vessel but i was dying so much i wanted to play grimm for fun

his dash attacks are pretty fast so it can be hard to get the height necessary to dodge at times

[brittle glade]

bam, casual radiant

[steel ember]

hes next on the list

[brittle glade]

pure vessel can be done no hit easily since he's mostly skill dependent, quite unlike the rng moth

anyway I'll probably start steel soul at some point

[steel ember]

gl

[white slate]

Played for a bit and got lost I'll try again tomorrow

Maybe I'll stream it and see if anyone can show me what to do

[steel ember]

i just cant beat pure vessel

its like impossible to consistently dodge both of his dash attacks without having shadow dash available

theyre just so quick i can almost never get enough height even spamming jump

could be that im bad but like

e

oh cool

the very attempt after typing that message i beat him on attuned

not that impressive but

its a start ig

@azure citrus

hello

welcome to hell

[azure citrus]

hi

[pearl whale]

you should be able to just jump and pogo for both the three hit combo and the dash, though if worse comes to worse you can just move farther away from him because he won't go across the entire arena depending on where he starts the dash
tbh I don't really ever use shadow dash in the fight unless I literally have to or I'll get hit or the five sword projectiles since that's pretty difficult to manually react to (also if I fuck up and hit him during the parry )

[steel ember]

attacking him during the parry and shadow dashing through him is fun

its just the ultimate Fuck You

[steel ember]

ok just relaunched the game and did a few more attempts

got his ass on ascended

only took 1 hit

radiant time

staying around the center of the arena seems key

since he basically always teleports to the side of the arena when performing a new attack

gives me much more time to react

[steel ember]

its actually astonishing the amount of times ive died by falling onto his body while hes staggered

oh my god i just died at the final stagger again

why do i do this to myself

eat shit

maybe now i can continue pantheon of the knight attempts

[steel ember]

there we go

vessel was easy

i struggled the most with white defender and soul tyrant e

hate the dream bosses

[thorny belfry]

how long this channel exist? and why noone tell me?

[steel ember]

dazzle made it

[thorny belfry]

:O

[steel ember]

this channel primarily consists of me being bad at the game

[brittle glade]

it's been there for more or less a week

and yes, I created this to cater people who play HK as well as Wynncraft

[brittle glade]

pantheon of hallownest soon?

[white slate]

What's wynncraft?

[steel ember]

maybe

but I still need practice with bosses like sly and the dream bosses

at least I played pure vessel enough to where I can do it consistently

still don’t have all my mask shards lol

[brittle glade]

do the fragile flower quest

||and don't forget to give one to godseeker||

[steel ember]

mhm I’m missing that and one other shard

[steel ember]

that locks you out of the original ending though doesn’t it

(is there even a difference)

besides just the flower

lol

[brittle glade]

minor difference

the ending is slightly altered, but the outcome is the same

[pearl whale]

i have come to a conclusion that i will do funny hk playthrough out of sheer boredom

[steel ember]

thank you shots, very cool

[pearl whale]

can confirm this was a good idea thank you brooding mawlek for the welcome home party

[azure citrus]

no-hit steel soul mode blindfolded while in a bathtub full of ice at 15 fps

[steel ember]

oh yea I did a pantheon of hallownest run earlier and died to markoth lul

first time attempting it

didn’t even realize ascended made such significant changes to some bosses

[white slate]

https://mobile.twitter.com/morteraphan/status/1391484697293754371

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I really love this option in Hollow Knight. It breaks my heart, it warms my heart.

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[pearl whale]

I somehow forgot to pick up mark of pride after doing mantis lords and I am just now noticing as I am about to fight failed champion
we do a little trolling

[thorny belfry]

nice

[brittle glade]

on a separate note - how do you consistently defeat failed champion

[pearl whale]

there's pretty much nothing that can be done about falling rock rng but when he goes for the back hop he will follow it up with a slam+shockwave unless I'm far away from him (and if he does do the slam+shockwave at a distance, there's a good chance he will do more than one and closing the distance is better as a result anyways)
the shockwave can be dodged without even using a double jump so it's more of accounting for falling rock RNG and positioning appropriately than anything
for when he's just hopping around, I can avoid it by not moving until he actually jumps and then dashing away, as it's just enough to get out of hammer swing range
if I happen to see a rock headed to where I am about to be regardless of that I just kind of pray that I have enough time to deflect it after dodging the boss/shade cloak iFrames carry me, since taking a hit from the rock is far better than taking a hit from him

rinse and repeat and pray rock rng doesn't fuck me over until I stagger him, dream nail him 2-3 times for extra soul (3 is risky but easily possible if the charm is equipped), and then spam the ever loving god out of attacks while he's head banging (including deflecting rocks whenever possible)
he'll either be staggered while head banging or be incredibly close after he finishes, more or less making it an instant win if I survive first phase

though in my actual playthroughs (i.e. not grinding godhome) I literally fight the dream variants of bosses prior to getting shade cloak and moth wings for a significant chunk of them lmao, so naturally that early on in the game I can't just dps blitz my way through the head banging and repeat the above

[brittle glade]

me: spin2win

tornado does enough damage, fast enough, to reliably bring failed champion to stagger

just not immediately

[pearl whale]

eh it can but that can be very rng heavy
and also
I just don't use cyclone slash like ever except for Collector rofl

[brittle glade]

I spam abyss shriek vs the collector

yes, that works

stand dead next to the collector after he lands, abyss shriek, ez damage

[pearl whale]

it works but you either need to have soul built up prior to fighting him or rely on minions
which the latter is all you have for all bindings lmao

well you do have dream nail to but that's only feasible when he's staggered and otherwise a massive gamble

[brittle glade]

ascended collector is annoying to defeat with nail since his minions don't die in one hit due to being armored