Make the train cutscene not out of bounds

[severe dove]

Currently using the train fast travel in Fruma West lr puts you into an out of bounds zone (you can avoid it by skipping cutscene) but it would be cool to make specifically that cutscene area inbounds

[wheat ivy]

out of bounds as in for lootrun?

I don't get it

[stuck crypt]

i wanted to add special features for this fast travel during the west fruma lr but there is no proper method for us to check if the player is in a lootrun right now so i can't

that said it is possible to make the cutscene area be in bounds

@visual acorn ..

[wheat ivy]

ah so it is for lootrun

[severe dove]

If you are outside of lootrun bounds for 10s it ends the lr

[wheat ivy]

I know, I was asking if you specifically were talking about lootrun or something else

honestly I haven't though of the idea of using the train while lootrunning lol

[severe dove]

archer problem

[wheat ivy]

... I play archer

[severe dove]

espren —> timasca is nice for freight interchange

[wheat ivy]

I'll have to remember this

[severe dove]

yeah

[rancid rampart]

how tf is there no way for you to check if the player is in a lootrun 😭
what kind of technical debt is this

[late hollow]

its not a technical debt, its just an architectural design choice

we work on a live-service MMORPG that constantly changes and has 3 billion different systems

the content itself (in this case lootruns) should modify the behavior of other parts and not the inverse

[brittle gull]

I didn’t even know you could use the train during LR’s

[late hollow]

otherwise it creates more technical debt (this is literally the definition of spaghetti code) in the future and makes it harder to maintain

[brittle gull]

I figured you couldn’t, like merchants

[late hollow]

every new or reworked wynncraft system works as a standalone system without severe ties to each other, you can easily remove them without affecting many parts, this ensure all related code is nearby to each other, making it incredibly easier to fix bugs, easier to maintain behavior (no unexpected bugs by changing other parts), better readability, etc...

this type of architecture takes more time to develop, which is why often static games ignore it, you wont need to make deep changes after a game is launched, but wynncraft is not static, its live and grows every day

[wheat ivy]

god I wished I understood what you were talking about cause it sounds interesting

[brittle gull]

They make things separate from other things so they can update or remove them easier

[wheat ivy]

not sure why they can't detect a player being in a lootrun or not then

🥴

[brittle gull]

Idk, since I don’t have any insight on what their system does, or how it works

Maybe that’s really inconvenient to detect

And, if the issue is solved by skipping the cutscene, I’d just skip the cutscene

[wheat ivy]

idk I though heyzeer explained it and it was just too complex for me to understand

[brittle gull]

He just said that they make things in a way where it’s easier for them to work on their own, and don’t need any other aspects to support it, which translates better to a constantly changing game

I would assume this is a subtle way at saying that making this change isn’t as easy as it sounds

The blunt way is saying “this is hard, and would take a while, and I can’t find enough justification for the work, when you can just skip the cutscene and never have a problem”

[devout pasture]

so in other words, is the change OP requested impossible for the time being?

[late hollow]

it is possible, tho completely unrelated to what I was talking about

[regal marlin]

To my understanding we can make specific places in bounds anyway? Like graveyard of a thousand is outside SE

[proper stratus]

What LMAO

What is WRONG with the wynn backend

in any reasonable project this could/should be one if check or getter method, but I suppose CT have 0 access to the code either way

[stuck crypt]

we can only interface script with the backend as much as the devs want us to