#Mount power-up system is designed to waste your time!

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gritty lark
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There are 8 type of mount stats: speed, acceleration, altitude, energy, handling, toughness, boost, training.

If you have say: 8/30 speed, 16/16 acceleration, 16/30 altitude, 19/22 energy, 10/10 handling, 15/30 toughness, 10/10 boost, 22/22 training...
then guess which ones will be common and rare....
very, very common: handling, boost
common: acceleration
rare: energy, training
very, very rare: speed, altitude, toughness

MEANING: the stats that you would need the most of are the rarest. (basically if right hand side number is lower, its more common, if its higher, then its rarer)

I'm not sure how it will be at higher levels, but yeah.... this is not good. The power-up types that you need the most of are the rarest, and its not even close!

WHY is this this way?!

gritty lark
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I don't understand fully how this power-up rarity system works ofc, but after levelling a bunch of wyverns, I know what I experienced.

gloomy widget
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Yeah ts annoys me so much. Like, shouldnt they just spawn completely random instead of just wasting your time

gritty lark
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yea they should just all be equal rarity at all times

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I was trying to find a certain power-up type for 5 minutes straight!!!

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and 90% or 95% of what I saw was handling and boost...... like wtfruma

gloomy widget
next schooner
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is this actually confirmed or is it regular old rng screwage

gritty lark
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seems to be confirmed enough by just bout everyone I spoke to

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and ofc my own experience

gloomy widget
plush lotus
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i'm aware that there is a pool that's weighted based on your recent pickups,

but it genuinely feels like the game actively goes out of its way to mess with you by giving you ONLY the stuff that you've already maxed.

if you avoid some bullshit ONE TIME then the next 50 powerups will be exactly it. but then even if you pick up 100 of it in a row, YOU'RE STILL GONNA KEEP GETTING IT.

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just yesterday i was juggling with SIX MOUNTS at the same time to pick up the random garbage that i don't need

and i was still getting ONLY the bullshit i had maxed.

dim orbit
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yea they could make it fair, tho i like the idea of having to pick specifically what u need and seek for it, they're too rare

plush lotus
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someone just got automodded… 😭

dim orbit
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it makes it weigh too much on the energy level

gloomy widget
dim orbit
next schooner
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ok yea this sounds mega bullshit 💀 how did they mess literally everything up about mounts

gloomy widget
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I wanted to say that I dont mind the long feeding time.

At least make levelling fair

gritty lark
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yeah im testing with 1 stat wyvern rn, and it seems to be like how I wrote it is

plush lotus
next schooner
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tho i havent interacted with mounts and never will until they become worth using in a practical way over movement spells

gritty lark
gloomy widget
gritty lark
plush lotus
next schooner
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ngl id probably ping ct here as well to weigh in on training

dim orbit
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it allows for different class builds to have better movement

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idk about u guys, but wyverns are game changing for COTL warring

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and warring in general ig, tho i'd use an horse on other places instead

gloomy widget
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Yeah untrained wyverns were so ass, but once you train them a bit, they become really good

dim orbit
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i get that it's a very niche use case scenario

next schooner
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mounts arent even useable in wars????

plush lotus
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nono its to travel from one war location to the next

dim orbit
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connections are PAINFUL on cotl

gritty lark
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pls dont derail thread

dim orbit
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u have to get past mountains, and u're not gonna war with a warp

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another hot takes of mine: they should have made it a profession

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as in "new leveling system", not necessarily bound to proffing

gritty lark
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keeps derailing thread... ofc

dim orbit
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i'm talking about the time wastage

gritty lark
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anyway, what would be the best way to fix this yall? make all power-ups the same rarity no matter what?

plush lotus
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literally just keep it random

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this ridiculous weight system serves no purpose other than wasting dev time that couldve been spent improving the server, and dev wages that couldve been used to get better servers instead

gritty lark
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but at the same time I'm so confused, because now I did see a ton of boost, but literally 0 handling while levelling up my other stats. The left side number probably has some weight in it too, but idk.

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okay I respawned wyvern and handling is common again

sly helm
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personally not sure wtf kinda system u guys have i just eat every boost i see and it works fine

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the bias and whatnot is odd but like if u just eat everything it’s whatevr r

heady swan
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I've seen a power up despawn in real time
Is it possible they just get recycled right back to a new spot?

sly helm
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ye if u despawn and respawn it spawns the same stuff

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can use it to get energies on the mount u want

ivory kernel
sly helm
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yea i just stall for power ups with whatever secondary mount until i get one and keep eating everything

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but most of the time i don’t have to

dim orbit
gritty lark
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okay this is super freaky... I reached 10/10 boost and handling, and suddenly 90% of my power-ups were boost, 5% handling, and 5% anything else

gritty lark
plush lotus
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a pool with a bias

gritty lark
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explain more pls

plush lotus
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this is what i found on the wiki

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supposedly, the game gives you more of what you aren't taking.

proper thistle
plush lotus
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except, i take it, and i still keep getting it nonstop.

proper thistle
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So if you keep avoiding boost, the boost will keep spawning until its picked up

dim orbit
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maybe something doesn't work rn? it wouldn't be unprecedented

gritty lark
plush lotus
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like what linny said, i spam powerups at the tremendous cost of my mounts' energy,

while never getting any of the ones that i need.

gritty lark
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if true, anyway

plush lotus
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wynncraft makes a game out of never giving me anything that i need 😭

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it has to be more complex/nuanced than what the wiki says.

gritty lark
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yea

plush lotus
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cuz if the pool is based on what you haven't been picking up, well, I HAVENT BEEN PICKING UP ANYTHING I NEED. so give me the stuff that i need!

dusk gulch
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The biggest problem is RNG. Yesterday I fully trained 12 adasaurs to 30/30. Some were fine, but others - they were not. If you get hit with bad energy battery luck, you are screwed. I consumed all the energy on all the mounts and even my 2 (really 3) backup mounts and didn't get a single battery. When I did get a battery, it'd be drained quickly by taking random boosts before I could get 3 more speed and 3 training. There was a point where I had not progressed any of my mounts stats in over 30 minutes because my RNG was bad

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if you are guaranteed to get drops that only help you, it would still take a long time to train mounts (240 potential means you have to pick up 240 powerups). Assuming you pick one powerup on average every 10 seconds (really it's probably higher lol) that's about 40 minutes to fully train a 30/30/30, which checks out from my experience

loud seal
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If you ignore something it keeps respawning until you take it, resulting in all of them being something you don’t want eventually unless you have two mounts or more and alternate

proper flume
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guys

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i have an idea that salted will be very interested in listening

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..... add double mount training bombs 🔥

plush lotus
gritty lark
vernal ocean
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i can explain mount power-up system. There like pool of power-ups one for all mounts so without picking up power-ups u cant roll a new one. solution is to have another mount for picking up unccesary power-up then switch to one u want to upgrade

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oh this information on wiki nvm then

loud seal
dusk gulch
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double mount training for 20 minutes 🔥

latent geode
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Thank god, I though I was the only one who thought the powerups were weighted weirdly 💀