Please Revert Arrow Bomb Sound...

[glass acorn]

Just revert the arrow bomb sound

[shell wraith]

Please explain further otherwise this thread will be closed

[glass acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-gif-20148661

It sounds like this now... terrible change

[shell wraith]

This is still not explaining it very well at all. We have not intentionally changed the arrow bomb sound

[glass acorn]

The new arrow bomb is generic tnt spam its loud it's obnoxious and not at all the right direction to take the spells audio design... the sound was fine why change it?

It was intentionally changed if it was changed.. Huh!?! You don't accidentally change a whole audio queue..

Like come on gng it went from sounding normal subtle and balanced to BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM in all directions

What more do I need to say?

[shell wraith]

As I said if the sound is different to what it used to be then it's not intentional. We migrated a lot of internals for spell VFX in fruma and it's possible for some mistakes to be made!

I'll try to find what changed and resolve it now I know about it

[glass acorn]

Thank god I love you ❤️

Before

After

If this helps in anyway

[honest grove]

:]

[glass acorn]

https://discord.com/channels/143852930036924417/1490074030198489279

There is also a issue with escape and arrow storm casting these are more known issues but all in all archer took a hit in bug department it seems with the transfer from beta to live

[honest grove]

leap also sensitive

like it makes it more annoying to do parkour in certain cases for instance one of the first fruma quests

i cannot buffer jumps at all without accidentally leaping bc it just insta activates mid air with 1 tap whereas before you had to intentionally double tap the space bar mid air

and as for escape

i did make a thread during the beta which contains video comparison https://discordapp.com/channels/143852930036924417/1479491308899795024

it feels exactly like this when the update hit live servers too

its a bit strange its like this considering escape apparently not being touched whatsoever

[glass acorn]

I have noticed some delay that has followed across servers and have not gotten better with server stability with leap also

[honest grove]

probably the 5x player increase but if it stays after player count drops then yeah

[glass acorn]

I just wish more archers would come forward about the issues

[shell wraith]

Well leap did get fundamentally changed in it's trigger for fruma

Because with new tech we can more accurately detect this "double jump" trigger

It's impossible to bring back the old behaviour exactly and we tweaked it during beta to be the best based on the feedback we got but that can obviously change now we are in full release

It just needs time to get more opinions, we won't be adjusting stuff immediately without longer for players to get used to changes

[glass acorn]

Is this why arrow bomb audio thread has taking priority in a response time to escape/archer movement thread because arrow bomb audio was indirectly affected by something?

And was not an intentional change as stated where as movement/leap was

[shell wraith]

Nothing is taking priority, I just respond to feedback that I see and hasn't had anything on it yet

I responded to the horizontal escape stuff during beta and said that we haven't modified escape so its likely something to do with detecting being stuck in a block not allowing that mechanic anymore

its not a very intentional nor reliable mechanic so if we do decide to do something about it, it would likely be to try and introduce something similar as an intended feature rather than re-adding a weird behaviour

[honest grove]

it would be great if it was reintroduced the old way or via intentional mechanic

The way you did it before was jumping and then very close after escaping

would be nice if intended mechanic was similar to the original

original was reliable with practice

you could get maybe 90% consistency

most people who play intense archer want the old mechanic back

[proven flower]

I'll second that leap has been really buggy with the new update, it's incredibly inconsistent in activation

[shell wraith]

Please explain with more detail!

[proven flower]

Sure! I've been having trouble getting it work now. Before it was always just a very quick double tap of the keyboard, and it always worked perfectly. Now it seems like it needs to be timed just right with a slight pause between the two taps to activate it at all. But even then it doesn't always work. I'm not sure if this is due to server lag or what but using the same timing, it doesn't always activate. Let me know if you have specific questions, sorry I'm not entirely sure how to explain in more detail than that.

[shell wraith]

That's perfect! It's strange though because the only comments I've seen this far have been too easy activations

[honest grove]

it does sometimes feel inconsistent

also stomp (pressing sneak) after escape feels slower

[proven flower]

I saw those comments too and I'm a bit confused. I think it's just inconsistent generally, I guess sometimes it might activate when I don't expect it to, but just running around I'm usually always trying to activate it so I haven't noticed accidental activations as much.

[glass acorn]

wynn staff seems to have put a spell cast delay... its noticable on archer an extremely cast time focused class

the muscle memory you built up for years is what seems to be thrown out the window... i do not think this is server lag

[glass acorn]

PLEASE FIX ARCHER CASTING arrow bomb you can cast with 2 clicks... cant cast arrow storm because if you try to you end up casting arrow bomb wtf did you guys do to archer... you have the community thinking its user error and some swear its fine?!

[shell wraith]

None of these things are things that we have changed about the class and are almost certainly just because of the immense amount of players online causing some pretty bad lag right now with the new stuff

We haven't added any extra delay or changed the casting combinations for spells

[glass acorn]

there is 100% an issue with bomb/storm you can cast it in 2 clicks

despite the world despite the lag