add a server where we can play old wynncraft pre gavel lock in
#old wynncraft
pliant vapor
being real we dont have the map in its original state anymore
Ocasionally we find offmap copies of parts of the game that are outdated but never entire regions
Even if we did this is fun for like an hour until you realise the game updated for a reason
rough lynx
Even if we did this is fun for like an hour until you realise the game updated f...
it updated for reasons ye but
i guaretnee a lot of people would go back to it for nostaglia reasons and rerun the game
because it was more fun to run through it back then with the old graphics and gfx
new updates are cool and all but it lowkey ruined the adventure aspect of wynn
pliant vapor
If you played old wynn you would remember it was NOT good 😭
Like, hot updates such as "Added a bridge to a river" and there being like 1 mob every 50 blocks
rough lynx
old wynn was good
pliant vapor
quests werent even in the game originally
rough lynx
it had its flaws
pliant vapor
It was very flawed
rough lynx
but im talkin about mainly right b4 gavel when TOA was hard asf
when looting was acutally like good ngl
too much vfx and spam in recent content updates
doesnt mean i dislike it just too heavily focused on animations and "Quality"
strange imp
yeah november 2015 wynn was pretty cool
even though yeah absolutely everything was worse than modern wynn in every way
rough lynx
trade market lwkey ruined the vibe for adventure cl
pliant vapor
I heard this argument for World of Warcraft plenty, you remember it being good because life was different back then
You remember not knowing how stuff worked and you werent hyper-optimizing your stuff, the "adventure" came from bad guides being your only source of info
rough lynx
nah it wasnt that
pliant vapor
I do not miss standing in detlas "WTS Adamantite 15eb" repeatedly
rough lynx
it felt rustic and actually like an adventure
rough lynx
I do not miss standing in detlas "WTS Adamantite 15eb" repeatedly
that was the point tho it gave u incentive to get ur own shit ngl but forums were how u traded
pliant vapor
Rolls didnt exist
you got the item and you were done
and the meta was 4 common drops & a vendor item
rough lynx
im not saying the entirety was perfect 💀
strange imp
bmask adamantite crystal stalgmites 🔥
rough lynx
id rather go back to the rustic adventure type game then a heavy vfx animation for a lil while
just to run through it and get that feel back
pliant vapor
I give it like a month before someone just makes a resource pack to disable al lthevfx anyway
rough lynx
my point idk the reasons for all this heavy vfx when majority dont even want it 💀 💀
turning to mobile game ngl 💀
pliant vapor
sure man
wraith knot
my point idk the reasons for all this heavy vfx when majority dont even want it ...
Is this majority in the room with us?
rough lynx
Is this majority in the room with us?
litearlly like 40+ ppli asked said either its whatver or the didnt like
outer quest
Even if we did this is fun for like an hour until you realise the game updated f...
Hey at least itll last longer than highguard
rough lynx
and just look what people say idk if u can read
pliant vapor
40+ ppl 😨
wraith knot
40 is not a majority
wraith knot
Crazy
rough lynx
do u not read discussions or chat? 💀
wraith knot
Have you heard of a loud minority
wraith knot
do u not read discussions or chat? 💀
Where proof
rough lynx
💀
outer quest
If we're gonna start wynncraft classic its gotta be from a 1.20 backup 🔥
pliant vapor
According to 100% of people surveyed Hubert is the best character
rough lynx
If we're gonna start wynncraft classic its gotta be from a 1.20 backup 🔥
i js said to add the game from a backup and somehow hes pressed
idk what backup 1.20 is
outer quest
idk what backup 1.20 is
Raids addition
rough lynx
Raids addition
👎
pliant vapor
Idk how saying "I do not think wynn has a clean backup of 13 years ago" is pressed but ok
im outa here
rough lynx
Idk how saying "I do not think wynn has a clean backup of 13 years ago" is press...
ye fs thats what im refrencing it
just a perception you seem a lil hurt bud its okay continue high cortisol
solemn widget
jus play herobrine mansion
outer quest
commission grian to rebuild wynn 2015
ripe ether
pre gavel wynn was horrible
I aint even gonna sugar coat it
I am so damn glad we moved past swinging at vanilla zombies from a 3 block tall ledge as the main source of gameplay
and sitting in the objectively atrocious looking old detlas build
rough lynx
not saying it had a lot of content
or it should be updated just saying there should be a save slot on it so we can go back to it and speed run it have that nostalgic adventure rustic feel
im not saying this like it should gain maintained just that id be nice to be there
ripe ether
who would pay for this
rough lynx
who is saying pay
ripe ether
maintaining a server that reaches 0 concurrent players on peak hours because there's nothing to do
ripe ether
if you want to experience old wynn just play the god awful horribly outdated quests that are still in the modern game
rough lynx
and i promise they'll be people
wraith knot
There is no financial incentive to do this
ripe ether
playing through the sodeta mansion quest should hopefully remind you what old wynn felt like
ripe ether
and i promise they'll be people
there will be people for the first week
rough lynx
playing through the sodeta mansion quest should hopefully remind you what old wy...
im not saying as the entirety of it
ripe ether
I would certainly come back to a pre-gavel server but only for about a day
rough lynx
pre gavel server to run througj it and have that adventure rustic feel come back would be nice
ripe ether
the reality is that this is just not an economically viable decision for wynncraft to make
rough lynx
the reality is that this is just not an economically viable decision for wynncra...
u act like this server pulls in 6 digits 💀
ripe ether
if you want to run a server yourself and the CT have the old world save file (somehow (I'm pretty sure the old save is gone))
ripe ether
u act like this server pulls in 6 digits 💀
I think this server actually does pull in 6 digits
polar coral
I think this server actually does pull in 6 digits
they have multiple people on payroll so pretty sure it does
ripe ether
it's been pulling in enough money to actually hire people for fruma
rough lynx
with the website analytics its probaly close to 80
idk where ur getting these numbers from
but that still isnt the point
outer quest
Fruma pulling in 80k
Pre gavel pull in 80 cents
polar coral
none of us used numbers brochacho
polar coral
Fruma pulling in 80k
Pre gavel pull in 80 cents
only 80k fruma is a flop
rough lynx
didnt wynn peak during gavel?
polar coral
no bro 💀
rough lynx
im p sure its still not peaking
ripe ether
crazy statement
velvet knot
who's gonna tell this guy about the fruma trailer player count
polar coral
X
ripe ether
2016 was 10 whole years ago
polar coral
mate this was about 2 weeks ago
wraith knot
Last peak before that was rekindled too not gavel
rough lynx
https://x.com/Wynncraft/status/2020232152294535364
ic
rough lynx
"Majority of players hate it!"
ye fs theyre coming for the vfx bud
polar coral
ye fs theyre coming for the vfx bud
yes this is correct
rough lynx
did i say people hate fruma?
wraith knot
ye fs theyre coming for the vfx bud
Yes bro a lot of people genuinely are
rough lynx
I never said its a bad update 💀 💀
polar coral
did i say people hate fruma?
no u said the majority prefers gavel which is worse
wraith knot
They look sick af
rough lynx
no u said the majority prefers gavel which is worse
where
velvet knot
you're really trying to make it come off that way
rough lynx
you're really trying to make it come off that way
i js said old wyunncraft server would be nice for rustic adventure feel and the vfx are too much when lil code felt upset
polar coral
velvet knot
i js said old wyunncraft server would be nice for rustic adventure feel and the ...
if people had the chance to play old wynn they be on it for an hour, think 'wow this feels terrible', and collectively jump ship and never bother touching it again because why would you
wraith knot
^
velvet knot
like are we sure this isn't just nostalgia talking
rough lynx
if people had the chance to play old wynn they be on it for an hour, think 'wow ...
I mean theres a lot to be had whether its new players wondering how old wynn was and it did have an adventure rustic orignial feel to it
that now is lessen
its literally just uploading a save file which ig they dont have
velvet knot
and dedicating an entire server to doing just that sounds like a complete waste of assets
rough lynx
and dedicating an entire server to doing just that sounds like a complete waste ...
i mean it'd cost what an extra 40$?
rapid sapphire
add a server where we can play old wynncraft pre gavel lock in
nostalgia really a thing right cuse this guy will think a shitass cranky server is better then what we have rn 😭
rough lynx
nostalgia really a thing right cuse this guy will think a shitass cranky server ...
who is saying better 💀
theres takeways from eachother to gain from 💀
velvet knot
if a new player wanted to see what old wynn was like they can just search up old footage of it on like youtube
rapid sapphire
why would you even play it
rough lynx
if a new player wanted to see what old wynn was like they can just search up old...
yea cause thats fs the same as playin it
velvet knot
would honestly be more entertaining than the person playing
rapid sapphire
dawg wynncraft already has problem running their own server i cant imagine them trying to boot something they dont even have anymore
polar coral
new updates are cool and all but it lowkey ruined the adventure aspect of wynn
brochacho ts
rough lynx
dawg wynncraft already has problem running their own server i cant imagine them ...
it wouldnt be a problem if like was said only a handful of players played it
pliant vapor
i mean it'd cost what an extra 40$?
dev time to get the server actually running not accounted for
whoever time to actually find the backup and make sure it works
build time to fix how easy it was to get offmap not accoutned for
server costs significantly underestimated (You can go find zeer's info on it if you care to)
aaand itll be cool for like an hour
rough lynx
im not saying its gonna gather thousands
polar coral
the time and energy and money it would cost to rebuild old wynn from scraps and footage thats nearly lost media would be a truly pointless endeavor
rapid sapphire
it wouldnt be a problem if like was said only a handful of players played it
yeah but it does cost money
rough lynx
dev time to get the server actually running not accounted for
whoever time to ac...
how much does a single person on a server contribute
rapid sapphire
how much does a single person on a server contribute
what u mean like the cost of someone on the server?
polar coral
it will cost hundreds if not thousands of dollars to rebuild this map cos i gurantee the volunteers arent working on ts
rough lynx
it will cost hundreds if not thousands of dollars to rebuild this map cos i gura...
i was under the impression they already had the saved files stored
ig they dont
rapid sapphire
i was under the impression they already had the saved files stored
nope
pliant vapor
despite the first message in the thread saying otherwise
polar coral
i was under the impression they already had the saved files stored
call bro a jjk fan the way he cant read
rapid sapphire
despite the first message in the thread saying otherwise
wynncraft players iq of room temperature
rough lynx
despite the first message in the thread saying otherwise
yea when making the post u said it and but u were critquing areas that imo i disagree with
pliant vapor
wynn classic enthusiasts even lower
polar coral
wynntale got a better chance
polar coral
yea when making the post u said it and but u were critquing areas that imo i dis...
so what your saying is that i didnt believe you because you were disagreeing with me and therefore you must be wrong great work bub
rough lynx
so what your saying is that i didnt believe you because you were disagreeing wit...
what
im not saying i dont believe him what are u talkin about bro
go find more pics on stocism on google or something
tribal kraken
ngl even when I was younger I'm pretty sure I only played classic wynn for like a couple hours
rapid sapphire
yeah old wynn sucked
polar coral
go find more pics on stocism on google or something
??
rapid sapphire
the only good part of old wynn was guild wars and thats not even that old
tribal kraken
only thing I really miss from there was missing out on veteran rank
polar coral
next thing u know there is gonna be a feedback thread asking for vip town back
tribal kraken
remember when assassin was rank locked 💀
shy lake
Bring nether back
tribal kraken
although the custom armor stuff in classic wynn was cool, but it kinda made mojang mad iirc so uh, yeah xP
we pretty much have a replacement through the armor cosmetics nowadays tho which I do prefer more
dreamy hound
the only good part of old wynn was guild wars and thats not even that old
hell yea let's go stand in a corner and fight mobs spawning every 15s for half an hour 🔥
rapid sapphire
hell yea let's go stand in a corner and fight mobs spawning every 15s for half a...
its way funnier then what we have
tribal kraken
honestly that part probably wouldn't be half bad nowadays with the new systems but then it'd kinda be world events but again
dreamy hound
it did have one benefit, in that you could solo pretty much anything if you took your time
big shakeups >:D
i have no idea how eco worked back then tho
tribal kraken
iirc you used to be able to like choose your own types of enemies to put into a territory at like different levels(?) and I don't think you had to constantly supply it with stuff
it was kinda neat but I didn't get to mess around with it much myself
dreamy hound
yea the mobs thing is right for sure
random light
forget old wynncraft, wynncraft of like 3 years ago was vastly inferior to today
tribal kraken
can't argue with that ngl, we've gotten insane major updates like, back to back to back, it's wild
gaunt kiln
my point idk the reasons for all this heavy vfx when majority dont even want it ...
Back in my day, ragebait had to be believable
eternal dagger
I heard this argument for World of Warcraft plenty, you remember it being good b...
It's quite funny you say this cause the initial dev response was that players won't like it and now classic wow has like a really sizable player base
pliant vapor
It's quite funny you say this cause the initial dev response was that players wo...
This is true but for different reasons tbf
Classic wow had a following with a proven track record, not one person every few months popping by asking
Also classic wow is actually good lol
outer quest
And then theres old school runescape
Outperforming the main game every day lol
The thing is those examples basically play as completely different games.
A wynncraft classic server would literally just be just a regular ass minecraft server back in its infacy
subtle hull
holy nostalgia merchant
deep dagger
i think theres merit to be had with a pre spellbound "classic" wynn but itd work more as a one time event for like some significant anniversary
hoary adder
I mean there isnt really a point in talking about if old wynn was good or bad this idea is just not possible as most of the legacy code and map is lost media lol
also as someone who got into wynn back in 2014 2015 I get the want to do it
but it has no end game at all
people say modern wynn has no end game
but there is ligit nothing in 2015 wynn to do after you do all the fetch quests and talk to npc quests
you can kill a boss mob that does 1 old multihit spell and thats it, there wasn't even really class building
If it was possible I think a legacy wynn server would be cool for like 1 server, but there is no way it would be like oldschool WOW or RS
thorny vine
split rose
i guaretnee a lot of people would go back to it for nostaglia reasons and rerun ...
i guaretnee a lot of people would go back to it for nostaglia reasons
Uh
do you have a source on this
dreamy hound
I bet a bunch would, but only for like an hour or so
gaunt kiln
Spending thousands on something that might only get used for 30 minutes seems like the worst trade deal ever
outer quest
Spending thousands on something that might only get used for 30 minutes seems li...
Its the game development meta, havent you seen concord and highguard
gaunt kiln
Its the game development meta, havent you seen concord and highguard
wait youre right
hoary adder
Its the game development meta, havent you seen concord and highguard
our next update we turn wynn into a hero shooter battle royal extraction shooter
hoary adder
we are using AI to make our mobs like arc raiders 
new raid boss: giant robot spider that shoots rockets and spawns minions
lotta goop in that shit
dreamy hound
the Giant Enemy Spider
hoary adder
what is this a big spider or something?
willow pecan
It was *very* flawed
I really kinda just miss a few things about old wynn:
Mythics felt really special
Numbers weren‘t insanely inflated
Class building was much easier
Almost all content was technically soloable
The first one is just kind of a mythic drop rate thing and not necessarily a problem since mythics can be insanely cool to build around and so them being accessible is not inherently bad
more like a personal dislike
The numbers thing is also pretty subjective, do people like insanely big numbers? Good in that case. Do you feel something doing 500+k dps is absurd coming from pre 2.0? Bad in that case
The class building thing is just a consequence of how mana works and mana value post 2.0 and I don’t know how the hell you’d fix it or if it is even seen as negative by more people
And raids are not soloable by design
I suppose to sum it up, new Wynn is notably very different, definitely much better in almost all regards but I just don’t agree with many of the changes
I’d suggest something like path of exile’s ruthless mode that makes specific items much more rare and really forces you to work with what you’ve got, but it’d be insanely hard to implement in the scale of Wynn and just too niche
willow pecan
Rolls didnt exist
Pre rollable skill point era 
Wasn’t there to see that
willow pecan
According to 100% of people surveyed Hubert is the best character
IT’S HUBIN TIME
willow pecan
i mean it'd cost what an extra 40$?
We are delusionmaxxing with this statement
do you know the cost of server infrastructure bro
brave blaze
pre gavel server to run througj it and have that adventure rustic feel come back...
Bro has not played old Wynn, if they’re asking for a paid 1.7.10 adventure map quality world 🤯
Bro does NOT remember why Wynn had a player count of 400 for a whole 2 years, until 1.17
Not even 😭
pliant vapor
Back when we had like 70 player worlds
brave blaze
Zentrela seemed to be the potential Wynn killer, for that time. Who knows what would’ve happened, if it kept going