Cotl Cavern Gargoyles

[humble oar]

I can't be the only person to think these things are busted.

Although I am using a lq/lb warp build just comparing the damage they output next to the other mobs is just crazy.

A ranged attack, that pulls you in like u did a reverse pouch opening and the massive damage it deals if you fail the agi check just feels dumb.
+the Chiselers Cavern spelunk cave which puts them all in a small room with you.

Tna ray attack deals less dmg that these

Rly want to hear if it's just a me problem or what.

[noble thorn]

We need more mobs like this to punish etw

[granite stratus]

at least they got their kb reduced quite a bit but yea they hit hard and they sometimes keep spawning making the attacks continuous

im at a point of cheesing the cave everytime i get it bc theyre that annoying still

[hexed linden]

It's really not that bad

They're strong but you can just kill them from a far then hurry to the chest

[humble oar]

I mean these are all just ways to avoid/cheese them dunno if thats good practice

[north orbit]

pullslop

[cosmic sigil]

The armory has them too. And I do have to agree that they feel kinda strong compared to other mobs in cotl

Best way to deal with these guys in general is to fly above them, which is only a thing for Bmonk surfing and acrobat

Or you can have long range ig

[paper geode]

i remember commenting on a similar post a while back but it was about the armory challenge specifically
i dont think theyre the same exact mob but yeah those gargoyles hit hard
both the ones from the armory and the ones in chiselers cavern

[digital belfry]

yeah these guys are the sole reason i don't run warp in cotl

[delicate turtle]

Why are u using lb/lq in cotl 😭😭😭

[digital belfry]

questionable decision

[humble oar]

tbh I just dont feel like switching

[humble oar]

Yes those are a different type but I feel like they are more predictable than these ones.

[humble oar]

still feel they are unbalanced compared to other mobs

[delicate turtle]

I agree, gargoyles generally as a mob deal stupid damage but have low attack speed to compensate

The only thing to complain about with this cave is the fact that 75% of the time I have to sit waiting for 15s just for the 10th gargoyle to spawn

Would be nice if either the mob kill range for the chest was reduced to 6-8 instead of 7-10, or if the area around the chest to kill mobs was increased deeper into the cave before the parkour

[heavy fiber]

They do a lot of dmg and sometimes oneshot yea. It would be fine if they couldnt just spawn on you

[noble thorn]

We need more mobs like this to punish etw

[humble oar]

ts also

[cunning narwhal]

make me mob designer snd i will dtart grinding

[north orbit]

Thank God you're not

[cunning narwhal]

no problem

Appreciate it fam

[swift lichen]

Hey! These things two shot me with 130 agi and 60 def by challenge 8! I dont like that!

Also if 10 arent spawning for you then your game is bugged because i get at least 15 as soon as I enter the room

[humble oar]

Its very random for me, half the time there's a hoard of them and the other half they just don't spawn

[amber crystal]

imo they should have more defences and less attack, after all they are gargoyles

[sonic cipher]

pro tip if you tp far away then tp back they spawn pretty much instantly

[delicate turtle]

pro untip i run on shaman so i cant tp very easily

i dont use EC in caves

[sonic cipher]

why not

also like just haul with main relik and offhand tremorcaller to tp far away and back

[delicate turtle]

blood sorrow is more than enough dmg

[lethal steppe]

I can concur that they're a lot stronger than like 95% of cotl lootrun mobs. I don't know if they're necessarily overpowered, but they are stronger

[steady flare]

They definitely stand out as far as power level goes

[calm bison]

i more so have an issue with the gargoyles in armory than those

the ones in armory feel the need to do 60/70% in 1 attack of my hp no matter if i have 50 boons 0 curses

[humble oar]

that is true they dish out massive damage, for me the only saving grace is that they don't have a ranged attack but some weird charge atk. It's not a problem to dodge but when the new wave (3rd one) spawns with 3 of them on your head it is a problem

[vagrant solstice]

Armory gargs are busted but running ~30-40 def allows you to eat a hit, even agi builds can afford this if you try hard enough to build around it

Rare example of random mob feeling way out of line, but I like how much it can add to the stakes lol

[digital belfry]

another loss for warp

[vagrant solstice]

Warp with defense .

[marsh heron]

95 Def builds arent even safe unless you had Trumpet ready.

The Armory challenge's gargoyles apparently had some charge attack that's indicated with white beams that deals huge dmg. Problem for Warriors is that if you are using War scream in spell cycle you'd eat the damage as this thing pulls the enemies

[vagrant solstice]

Maybe if you eat multiple attacks in a row, I can live one on 15k non-agi ehp mage

I don’t have experience in warrior tho

[marsh heron]

Well does the mage class have any pull spells? Because for being ranged you can strafe them around

War scream straight pulls enemies. So either bmonk for flying or cycle other spells

[vagrant solstice]

Ohhh I see what you mean. Super frustrating