Max mana tomes

[hollow obsidian]

uh what deleted the message (too many book emojies)

anyways
NEW TOME THAT ADDS +5 TO +16 MANA

[wispy stone]

too many emojis

[hollow obsidian]

was it the 7 book emojis

[wispy stone]

more like the 17 book emojis

[hollow obsidian]

oops

[muted oasis]

should add

[hollow obsidian]

i can't 😭

[muted oasis]

could get broken if they let you get too much but i think like 25 max would be chill

[hollow obsidian]

zamm i was thinking 15 max

[muted oasis]

15 is good

[finite trout]

Original message was deleted

[hollow obsidian]

i added reaction emojis to the first message so that'll do i guess

[hollow obsidian]

read the first reply instead i did like 10 red book emojies 4 book stack emojis and 3 other book emojis and activated the spam filter

[muted oasis]

📘📕📗📙

[wheat peak]

self-react in the year of our Lord 2026?

[wheat peak]

would it be Expertise Mastery (misc.) or Mysticism Mastery (mr/ms/spell%)?

Mysticism would make more sense since it's a mana id, but it would also be trash since the other three are just better

[sage coyote]

I am mildly confused, when would I want this over mr or ms tomes?

[graceful oak]

You dont really

Now I kinda want poison tomes for toxo

[hoary peak]

someone doesn't know how roll ranges work

max 20 has a 1/101 chance to get 20 and also has 6 min roll

max 15 also does not exist

[graceful oak]

[sly gale]

max mana tomes would be nice for intless or if you have burst mana sources like harvester, also could be good for lightbender sunflare and is a good choice for spellsteal assuming you have enough ms already

[wheat peak]

just set the raw to 11.5

[worthy escarp]

2 times +20 max mana sounds way too op

[hollow obsidian]

vanish builds only pretty much

[hollow obsidian]

mysticism ofc so you don't combine this with mr

[hollow obsidian]

sure as long as the max is 20 LOL

[worthy escarp]

arcanist

[raw plover]

Reduce the max mana gained a little bit maybe
like up to +7 or +8

+10 maybe

[spring scroll]

Idk, +2 to +5 would be okay

[hollow obsidian]

idk that would be very weak to the level of -spell cost tomes weak

i can lower it to 15 bc +40 mana max isss pretty overkill tbh

[finite trout]

manastorm abuse

[worthy escarp]

+10 max mana at perfect roll is definitely still reasonable

[worthy escarp]

idk about 15...

15 seems too op

[hollow obsidian]

did it say i was typing for 30 minutes

[worthy escarp]

mana regen tomes are only max +4 sooo yeah

[hollow obsidian]

i left a space in this thred accidentally for a LONG time

[worthy escarp]

no, it doesn't work that way... if you stop typing mid-sentence, it stops saying you are typing after a few seconds

you have notifications for this thread turned on for every single message

wait nvm I replied to you

anyway!

+8 mana regen is not much, +30 max mana would be way too much imo

but +20 (2 times 10) max mana at max roll might be still fine, idk

[sage coyote]

30 max mana given that you get perfect rolls. I think 15 + 15 is a good amount for max. We could choose whatever number works with the ranges, I assume 13

[worthy escarp]

for arcanist and riftwalker, max mana is very op.. im sure some other archetypes have this too

in any case, mana regen tome is max roll +4 mr.... excuse me, but uhh.. how on earth do you think they would add +15 max mana tome with this in mind?

[hollow obsidian]

i was mainly thinking about the pain of no mana regen during vanish for this tbh 💀 i didn't think this through

[worthy escarp]

on arcanist, I'd use +5 max mana tome over +4 mana regen tome (though +5 is really too little, even if its +10 if you use 2 of them)

imo +8 or +10 max mana on perfect roll is good

[worthy escarp]

okay maybe not, +4 mana regen might still be better than +5 max mana

but not better than +8 to +10 max mana

[crystal star]

am i stupid why do you need max mana on arcanist

you have overflow

[graceful oak]

Overflow is like +300 mana bank

So if you get more regular max mana then you can store even more mana!!

[sly gale]

i think 10 per tome would be a good number, i think each tome category adds up to what an average ring could provide, and they typically arent more than 8mr, if we use that logic then smth like hypoxia being 25 could justify the max mana gained being 20

[raw plover]

me when I start trying to verglas spirit acro or something

[worthy escarp]

so I can run even lower int build, stacking even more damage in my build instead

you see, I just need enough mana with high spell costs to kickstart mana bank spam

and otherwise, its just for convenience... if you mess up your spells before you filled up your mana bank, you have to wait for mana to restore to finishing filling up the mana bank... 10-20 extra max mana would significantly help with this, it would be a very cool QoL feature

[worthy escarp]

to be clear, this is min/maxing for an extra 2-5% efficiency

(probably)

[pearl swan]

15 max roll on an item is not possible

Because base 11×1.3 = 14.3 is 14 max and base 12×1.3 = 15.6 is 16

Ahhh

Discord formatting

I forgot every time that I can't use *

[hollow obsidian]

ok then lets make it 16 idc

actually lets do 14

that looks like a number wynncraft would realistically do

[pearl swan]

nah it should be max 16 for maximum roll hell