Courage and curse and wind prison

[modern cloud]

Water and fire powder special does like super similar thing and thats not interesting and cool. Change one of them to do something different. (what if curse was 20% less spell cost for 4 sec super op and cool and useful)

Also wind prison lowkey unusable needs a change in my opinion like barely any reason to use it unless all of your party members super coordinated.
Thank you for listening

[fiery linden]

amazing post

[lean tangle]

nooo!!! how am i supposed to do my wind prison greg 1 tap downvoted

[fiery linden]

wind prison try to not constantly make game-breaking interactions

[urban venture]

me when my feedback is “please change this” and no change is provided

[modern cloud]

Curse change!!

[grim karma]

curse and courage have enough interesting differences i dont mind them both being a damage buff

[modern cloud]

@eternal perch it feels pretty bad when i make posts in good faith and things like tihs gets spammed

[eternal perch]

@acoustic folio please stay on topic regardless if OP's history. Unless you think they are delibertely breaking the rules currently, no need to bring up past woes

[silver elbow]

I like this post

wind prison is painful to look at

and yeah curse does feel like a weird thing for water to do

I think weaken enemy could be better, to fit with spring

[acoustic folio]

wind prison i can agree is useless with but gutting curse for the sake of making it different doesn't seem like a good idea

[modern cloud]

it doesnt have to get changed for worse

[acoustic folio]

Both courage and curse are basically the best specials rn, i don't see how they could be made very different without making them worse. They're already pretty different, one is a buff, one is a debuff. One is always useful/more useful if you're standing next to teammates, one is only useful if you're next to enemies.

[grim karma]

the defensive element gives a damage buff i would argue courage is the same

i would also argue neither are an issue

[devout acorn]

courage > curse in most situations rn imo
bcs you need to be close to apply curse unless your name is archer
but curse is good also

then yeah wind prison kinda sucks and doesn't even fit air's theme

[grim karma]

nah curse > courage in most situations

[modern cloud]

i think courage should boost smth other than dmg

dmg is not the way of fire 😎

[thick current]

Buff wind prison to lift bosses off the ground for 2s real

[devout acorn]

Difference of opinion be like

[grim karma]

if u wanted to keep wind prison the same but it works you could maybe do something like it just lasts 2 seconds and will duplicate the strongest single dmg instance in that 2 seconds but stronger (hits once timer runs out) idk

[devout acorn]

Just a 20% damage boost with different specifics

[grim karma]

curse is just a bit higher skill for more reward

[devout acorn]

Fair

[modern cloud]

pressing shift melee is skill 😵‍💫

[grim karma]

thats why i said a bit
in comparison to courage

nowhere did i say it was skilled at all
infact using it requires little skill

[smoky token]

Maybe wineries just works for urself and increases the next 3 by 50%

Numbers ofc variable

[lean pike]

20% for curse feels a little high but yeah wind prison needs a change

[lean pike]

Any "for the next X hits" buff is a little weak for spell spam

Unless it's like an ability giving the buff and X is 20

[grim karma]

i dont think wind prison is intended for spell spam

kinda the point no?

[smoky token]

exactly this

but its not unusable for spell either
more heavy spell propaganda

next 10 meteors smh

[grim karma]

air prison is heavy spell/melee buffer

curse courage is generic buff

chain is melee dmg plus sustain

quake is melee dmg

making air prison another generic buffer is less interesting and honestly i think a heavy spell /melee buffer would be way cooler

and the coordination with others using e.g. quake would also be more interesting (if it remains a buff that can help others)

[smoky token]

honestly I think it shouldnt
at least not with a limited amount of hits, and otherwise its a generic buffer again

cause u probably want to get value from ur own build, and lets say its melee/ heavy spell then u probably dont do that many hits and get most of em stolen

[grim karma]

it depends on how exactly it works

and how they wanna balance it

[grim karma]

this is why current sucks ans why i suggested what i did since it avoids this

[smoky token]

yeah, i got that. I find ur idea very complicated though, but it has the interesting synergy with teams. like beeing able to get the air prison boost on quake or similiar stuff. So thats def a plus. Maybe it was just the wording beeing complicated idk

[still epoch]

I don't like this post I want him feedback muted

[devout acorn]

if this was like
a month ago
I'd agree with you

but he seems to have (mostly) stopped the trolling now

[feral hamlet]

While i do agree that curse and courage are very similar and kinda generic while wind prison doesn't work well with current meta, i believe that current alternatives aren't that good and CT doesn't have the tech or dev time to invest in new alternatives

but I'm giving anyways

[shadow cypress]

Bad suggestion for curse, good suggestion for changing air

[wintry mango]

commmon peanuts yeah W

[primal viper]

facts make people around you more tanky or something

completely agree with wind prison too. That powder special is unusable for 99% of cases

[wintry mango]

i feel like courage being a team buffer makes sense thematically enough and u can use tittanio as a defensive buff anwyay

[feral hamlet]

is not bad in the sense that curse is generic, but it works with what CT have rn, in the future they could improve how courage and curse works, making them as unique as thunder or earth powder

[shadow cypress]

It's bad in the sense that every build already plays with spell sustain in mind, and trying to factor that spell sustain into a powder special will either make it inconsistent or just super toxic to figure out in builds. Not a fan of that

Like that specific suggestion of "curse = spell cost reduction"

Especially because it makes concentration powder special on armor more difficult to build up

[lean tangle]

dauntless inferno should just be base courage lowkey

[rocky zenith]

Cast faster

[shadow timber]

ngl i think all powder specials should be made into some kinda duration based damage buff

btw weaken enemy is one of the most useless ids imo

[feral hamlet]

it is not, the problem comes when it doesn't work with a lot of enemies like bosses, imo weaken enemy should work with 25-50% effectivity for bosses