#nerf caesura

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sonic walrus
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im nerfing yours specifically

obsidian dirge
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but seriously though, it's a unique with 25sp, and all the damage buffs in the world

limpid narwhal
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is this a front to flex ur caesura rolls

short shoal
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God forbid etw items are etw items 💀

noble perch
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please give a better reasoning behind this alongside actual descriptive feedback (the cwg thread did that)

noble perch
sonic walrus
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yeah dont make posts that provide no reasoning if you are actually serious about it

kind apex
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Ts guy is a bit slow and silly

upper rune
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bwash is the first helmet deserving of a bullet in my mind, caesura is fine

sturdy kestrel
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The CWG thread was just an elaborate troll this is no worse

noble perch
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@sturdy kestrel hi!

noble perch
upper rune
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the feedback muted role flying down from the clouds to save the day from these feedback sloppers

noble perch
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just a helmet with upsides only

swift coyote
noble perch
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you are brainwashed

upper rune
swift coyote
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yeah atleast let me sell all my spares off i have like 30

noble perch
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if it's for slime I personally would let bwash slide

swift coyote
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if u want something to nerf i dont use titano

noble perch
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NO

upper rune
sturdy kestrel
pliant shell
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FAX

grizzled socket
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watch someone make a more explanatory post and get upvotes lol

meager walrus
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caesura is already balanced (maybe a little on the stronger side), but first you would need to know the downsides of the item:

High sp req: in total it requires 3 types of elements

High need for sustain: is a item that even with 100% id rolls needs to have a cancel for mr or ms in most cases since is a spell spam helmet

Doesn't offer as much defences: since it has no relation with FA, it lacks defenses and only has 2 powder slots, so elemental defenses are also low.

Mixed values: it has a decent % and raw values of dmg, however, other helmets do offer more % or raw, which is better in a lot of cases where a low DPS class or a High DPS class would take into consideration

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caesura is a strong item, however i wouldn't think that is the strongest item, sure for a uncommon one it maybe is one of the strongest but overall we have some good options that also offers a lot of stuff that caesura cannot, at any case i would add negative sp for defense or agility (-5)

grizzled socket
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another problem with caesura is that it has a large number of useful rolls, making a good caesura hard to come by

cyan osprey
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Well it already received one

sturdy kestrel
latent aspen
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feels like a lot of the defenses regarding Caesura being in its state are either acknowledging downsides that make no significant impact in practice on their own or forgetting that there are archetypes that easily dodge those downsides

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"This item has high SP requirements!" I am already building these stats on most builds, only the Intel requirement could possibly throw off builds and that's both if I am doing heavy spell and if I take negative Intel items. 30 Intel is easy to get.
"The downside of -mr/-ms requires you to build around that!" Ignoring archetypes that don't care innately (Fallen, RW, Arcanist to name a few), it's easy to find a workaround for the penalty because -13MR is not going to be a problem to most archetypes since (at least from my testing), only a couple playstyles in the game need an MR stat high enough to where a negative MR slot would be a significant downside (PBomber, MR Boltslinger).
"The item lacks defense!" I picked the damage helmet, why would it also cover my defenses that's ridiculous.
"It has a lot of rollable stats so getting a good one is difficult!" Timegated downside that matters less to builds that can skip some IDs (i.e. using the helmet on a Thunder build means less importance placed on getting a good Earth Damage % roll). Now that there are good rolls in game, where is this downside?

little mist
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the question is, does caesura compete with alternative options in similar builds?

dusky viper
cyan osprey
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So Caesura should get nerfed primarily because of one archetype?

latent aspen
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such a weird item because the downside matters only to some builds meanwhile the upsides matter to nearly every build

pliant shell
frosty mulch
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Chat this kind of post was funny the first time

cyan osprey
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Well first, how much damage is Fallen doing to justify nerfing Caesura

half pebble
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riftwalker also uses this

cyan osprey
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I wonder why

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Could it be because... a node on the tree allows it to not HAVE to build so much mr?

half pebble
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🤯

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idk if youre talking about timelock or mana storm

latent aspen
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me when fake downside on item

half pebble
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i mean you kinda said "a node" which kinda implies theres only 1 node
idk

cyan osprey
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Well Timelock is more apparent because y'know it instantly regenerates all your mana back.

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Well unfortunately I think all armor pieces mentioned in the past week will prospectively be nerfed in the next patch.

half pebble
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Makes sense

elfin dirge
proud prairie
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can we give feedback muted to these ragebait posts samuel

pliant shell
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for real

proud prairie
pliant shell
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my serious post gets shut down but this troll parody of it gets to stay, makes sense

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there isnt any bias in wat gets locked for sure

grizzled socket
proud prairie
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@radiant bison