Nerf Chaos-Woven Greaves

[viral plaza]

and people still want ehp slop to have good damage 😭

[astral sable]

Etw in nol only fun in pf since your the only one that does dmg so it doesn't melt in 2 seconds

[viral plaza]

etwa and etwf are encroaching how rainbow used to be

[viral plaza]

Etw in nol only fun in pf since your the only one that does dmg so it doesn't melt in 2 seconds

[silent gazelle]

isn't that ETF and EFA now?

or uh
ig these are way tankier

[woven patrol]

even then if youre on like shade or smth the boss will still melt in 2 seconds due to a complete lack of hp

[wise sorrel]

Efa???

[opal glen]

i mean you won't die but you won't kill anything

[west leaf]

my vision for rainbow items would be like rainbow with specialization in certain elements (e.g. resolution) so there are still customizations while still getting everything from rainbow

[astral sable]

This is true as well but I only play etw so I wouldn't know 🤫

[tiny flare]

1000+ messages in this thread, hot damn

[simple cobalt]

I dont think there's enough support for 4 point investment for them to be like old rainbow lmao

[charred oracle]

Wintel I haven’t played Shade for a while how is its damage on spell spam if you’re still into that.

[opal glen]

the duality of mann

[simple cobalt]

Old thread got dogpiled and locked thats why this one is here

[woven patrol]

i honestly dont know why these posts have different reactions

[viral plaza]

burger can quite literally complete all content in the game i dont think theres a real issue witht anky builds not doing enough damage

[opal glen]

because nut is a feedback ragebaiter who hasn't been muted yet

[charred oracle]

Peanut is just known for rage baiting

[charred yarrow]

Because peanutsyeah made the first one

[opal glen]

many of their threads have been locked

[woven patrol]

he got unmuted

[wise sorrel]

It takes three trillion hours

[west leaf]

not really i run a lower dps burger on my hardcore class and it still does every content quickly

[opal glen]

it just does not feel like you're doing big dps or something, idk

[charred yarrow]

😭

[viral plaza]

yeah it also takes zero effort other than remembering to click the spell

[simple cobalt]

wym burger completes and non raid content quick enough for it to be fine

[astral sable]

Boss actually has a chance to move around (unless it does chain lightning) so it lasts like a decent amount of time especially if I play safe bc if I die there's like a 60% chance I get held hostage

[viral plaza]

people just want to use zero effort AND also get highly competitive dps

[woven patrol]

true

[west leaf]

and thats what we call slop

[astral sable]

I don't pay attention to it but it's still good 👍

[opal glen]

whats your opinion on abso acolyte

[viral plaza]

stupid

[charred oracle]

Is its damage identical to before the whole Satsujin-Marked rework. Oblivion.

[viral plaza]

theres trainign wheel playstyles and invalidation playstyles and most of the "easy" playstyles in the game fall under mechanic invalidation

[simple cobalt]

last time I remember abso aco didn't really deal that much damage

[charred oracle]

I think Divzer Boltslinger is getting on people’s nerves a bit too much.

[opal glen]

i'm doing about 200-250k sustained with aspects?

[viral plaza]

it doesnt it just forces you into an endless loop of stnading htere while you take a beating and healing yourself over and over until the bosses die

[charred oracle]

That thing is low effort and high damage

[west leaf]

abso aco dps is like decent especially in team content, its not flashy but its really sufficient

[wise sorrel]

Oh wtf thats actually really good

[astral sable]

Don't know ! I also only recently started playing shade again I haven't played it in like a month or 2

[charred yarrow]

I play cata shade in pfinder and if i die i go make a whole 3 course michellin star meal while i wait for the raid to end

[viral plaza]

you dont end up learning anything

[wise sorrel]

I thought it was doing like 100-150k

Oh abso aco im blind 😭

[opal glen]

it drops to this if you don't task mask

[viral plaza]

now its hip again to play shade

[simple cobalt]

my memory never fails

[charred oracle]

How much DPS does Resonance do 😭

[wise sorrel]

Fuck autocorrect

[viral plaza]

not much because hte boss dies befor eyou can build bp

[west leaf]

do you have a slave to print blood for you

[opal glen]

depends on your blood pool generation

[charred yarrow]

Its quite bad

[charred oracle]

If it’s pfinder, probably not!

[opal glen]

if you don't have someone to give you blood, run abso
if you do, run resonance

[wise sorrel]

Imo bosses need to take longer and be more dangerous

[west leaf]

reso with bigmac is still hella nice dps but honest opinion unless you need the overheal go hadal

[viral plaza]

truth nuke

[wise sorrel]

That fixes a good chunk of issues

[astral sable]

No more immortality -> less shade players -> people don't steal my marks -> profit

[charred yarrow]

Hadal

[simple cobalt]

W

[viral plaza]

its dead..................

[opal glen]

oh right hadal exists

[viral plaza]

hadal aco is like dead in the water it died with shatter

[charred yarrow]

U need to believe in the 3 tier pants

[charred oracle]

Sooo what’s the only viable Acolyte weapon

[viral plaza]

[opal glen]

i don't like how glassy hadal is though

[simple cobalt]

hadal pbomber is an insane build

[west leaf]

its not that glassy even if etw

[opal glen]

tl;dr abso since it keeps winning with every acolyte nerf

[simple cobalt]

fanatic helps a lot

[viral plaza]

my hadal build had 4k ehp post mask

[west leaf]

or if you are worried you can do the funny dwindled knowledge + hellish cinders crafteds

[charred yarrow]

Olympic is great abso is meh reso is good if you have blood

[opal glen]

olympic also works

[charred oracle]

Was the base DPS nerf to Reso necessary

[opal glen]

reso got overnerfed

[charred yarrow]

Shatter hadal u could just facetank stuff on 5k ehp TBH

[opal glen]

871 -> 645 base dps 😭

[simple cobalt]

Yea, was a lot tbf tho

[viral plaza]

aco is just nonfunctional

[west leaf]

im gonna be honest reso was slop and its still good if you want the overheal

[charred oracle]

I think Abso has more base than Reso

[viral plaza]

yea but i pfind nol

[opal glen]

aftershock has more base than reso

[charred yarrow]

unpowdered ashock has more base than powdered reso

[winged coyote]

you are a noob

[viral plaza]

reso was slop but like genuinely it was just them not addressing how stupid overheal is

[astral sable]

[simple cobalt]

I was floored they only bumped the neutral to 450 with the base nerf tho like if you want sorrow to be the damage at least make it above where it used to be lmao

[west leaf]

also thank fucking god the immortality is gone oh no i have to actually look at my screen when playing shade now

[charred oracle]

It was better than 90% of the stuff in like complexity at least.

[viral plaza]

like damage wise and gameplay it was literally like fine 😭 except for thep art where it made your entire team tanks

[opal glen]

i think overheal drains a bit too fast now 😔 you don't feel how strong it is

[viral plaza]

good

[west leaf]

overheal is such a big weird thing on its own its quite unfair in general

[charred oracle]

Though I guess you are practically unkillable if you are constantly sorrowing

[viral plaza]

overheal should literally never have been allowed to give you your entire health bar max

[simple cobalt]

if anything nerf reso base more and make sorrow 1000% lmao

[charred yarrow]

can we make getting hit not cancel vanish please

[west leaf]

raw spell slap twin

[viral plaza]

ive literally never seen a mechanic where you get to double your health bar even temporarily

[simple cobalt]

real

[viral plaza]

unless its like a huge part of its power budget

[charred oracle]

So whether or not Reso should be an over health merchant or a dps weapon

[viral plaza]

i mean trumpet suffers fromt he same issues

it literally cant be allowed to be good otherwise it becoems too good

[west leaf]

i just think overheal is handed out like candies rn

and i dont like it being like that

[simple cobalt]

Real i swear every class gets at least 1

[charred yarrow]

its just aco and pala (and trickster technically)

[west leaf]

healing also has the same issue like most of the mechanic bypass builds as mentioned by panda utilises high heals

[charred oracle]

But Reso kind of needed that in order to sorrow spam to the extent that it did.

Also it had +25 defense for some reason.

[viral plaza]

idk its just kinda like.. wynn sacrifices way too mjuch to be accessible to all

[charred oracle]

One Aleph Null and I can make a few mistakes and still walk out unscathed

[green mica]

When you're accessible for about a decade it's suicidal to switch up

[viral plaza]

low key just ends up being what it is today where if theres no real pressure to play well you just have people who view ppl interested in optimizing as super op

and everyone who puts like the slightest bit of effort into breaking raids breaks them super easily

[west leaf]

well the truth is, people do struggle even in the current state of the game rn, theres just no real hard content to support the sweaty playerbase (most people talking here)

[charred oracle]

I think people just get bored of being really strong

[simple cobalt]

I think its totally fine for ehp builds to deal 1/4 the dps of hyper optimized machines tbh

[west leaf]

or well you can become a warrer or smth idk

[charred oracle]

So they switch to other builds and see a sharp decline in performance

[viral plaza]

yeah they do but idk if you take a game like monumenta that puts you through the fucking ringer to get to endgame you won't get people complaining that shit is too hard

i dont think wynn should or needs to be that level of competitiveness but like

[tiny flare]

It also force feeds you 400 hours of content

[viral plaza]

at the very least the entire early-late game shouldnt be a cake walk

[viral plaza]

wynn is literally the exact same but you need to complete it 5 times

[tiny flare]

It takes 30 hours for a 105 class, cmon

[viral plaza]

it takes like 5

[charred yarrow]

I did every quest on a class in like 180h

[viral plaza]

and monumenta takes like 25 hours

[tiny flare]

I’m talking for majority of essential quests

[tiny flare]

Idk what version you playing

[west leaf]

maybe late game stuff is a bit easy in general yeah

i feel like after stepping into lvl80+ the only really challeging quest is qira hive where you start seeing real boss mechanics (and even then fire hive still cooks people)

[charred oracle]

Well it isn’t now

https://discord.com/channels/143852930036924417/1448892477447733400

[west leaf]

im fairly sure IB is also decently hard at level now at least its something you have to pay attention to

[charred oracle]

-# Was that intended

[viral plaza]

ok well no shade but this guy thought that pz was like so hard it deserves to be giga nerfed

[west leaf]

yeah

[charred yarrow]

Its hard if you are using like adventurers or something

[viral plaza]

yea but none of the content that’s actually hard is required at level

[west leaf]

maybe its cuz i was on my sharp playthrough and i forced myself to run perma etw

[charred oracle]

I don’t know if they nerfed Solar Vanguard, but he doesn’t seem to particle spam as much anymore.

[viral plaza]

and ngl most new players just go grind spot and then hop into raid

[west leaf]

yeah thats like the issue

[viral plaza]

or lootrun or quit

[tiny flare]

Have you met very many new players?

[viral plaza]

yeah

[charred yarrow]

Pz is hard if you dont have any healing

[tiny flare]

Most of the ones I run into usually go quests first, they don’t know about grind spots

[viral plaza]

you shouldn’t be allowed to heal in pz

[west leaf]

the quests in like lvl40-70 are like quite outdated so a lot of players just start finding ways to skip that

[charred yarrow]

From what i see in #❓questions its very 50/50

[tiny flare]

Fallen propaganda

[simple cobalt]

real

[charred oracle]

Also I think PZ should reduce your max hp because idk how Fallen or Aco can be usable on that.

[viral plaza]

fallen is like giga shit in pz what are we talking about

[charred oracle]

Build mana sustain ig

[viral plaza]

it’s like actually unplayable in pz

[west leaf]

like you can clearly feel that lvl40 is where the mob stats ramp up relative to your gear and where the quests are like giga old

[charred yarrow]

Play 5hp 💡

[astral sable]

ive run into a lot of new players in pf with barely any content completion but probably just looked up a leveling guide and went to grindspots

[simple cobalt]

wynn excavation is nearly pretty much exactly how it was a decade ago

[charred oracle]

Wel hypothetically you could activate Fallen while falling (haha) down and have a ton of mana regen

[viral plaza]

regardless of whether they do quests or not the point that they still don’t do the challenging content stands

because quests aren’t hard either

[tiny flare]

I’m talking about the ones I meet in game. If you talk about the discord members, you’re taking the more casual players out of the equation

[viral plaza]

😭

[charred oracle]

Not everyone plays will eotb accessories

[west leaf]

i do think qira hive in some sense teaches the players about mechanics close to endgame

[tiny flare]

Insert fire hive reference here

[west leaf]

just that no one actually reads the dialogues and just brute forces stuff

[simple cobalt]

I dont think wynn is supposed to be that hard tbh

[viral plaza]

fire hive isn’t hard 😭

[astral sable]

thats still one example out of like hundreds

[tiny flare]

It was intended to be a joke because low hp moment

[viral plaza]

ok but it’s teetering on like faceroll levels of difficulty

[charred yarrow]

Its hard if you do too much damage....

[west leaf]

people struggle on fire hive because they just burst the boss down with no regard to mechanic

[tiny flare]

That’s true that’s true

[viral plaza]

it’s also like just dodge the fucking particles 😭ppl just learned they can stand in them and spam pots

[west leaf]

i couldnt outheal the particles even on a tanky build at least in early 2.0

[simple cobalt]

I dont really like it when stuff like this becomes too hard to play or understand because then the community goes from welcoming and nice to elitist and rude

[viral plaza]

literally exactly my issue with the game is that nothing ever punishes you until you encounter something that does and then people complain about it endlessly

[viral plaza]

moreso random particles in the rest of the game

[charred oracle]

Solar Vanguard was just particle spam

[west leaf]

i think the complaints are due to the difficulty transition not being executed well enough

[charred yarrow]

If you out any effort into making a real build at like any point in the game the quests are so absurdly easy

[west leaf]

imagine doing a chill ass nol questline and then hopping into nol

[charred oracle]

During the 2nd phase or something

[viral plaza]

yea exactly

[charred oracle]

My humble TWA builds

Also loaned AP if you really want to use it!!!!

[west leaf]

loaned ap completely broke balancing period

at least before lvl70

[charred yarrow]

Yep

[simple cobalt]

new players dont know that raids are tuned not for them just arriving off the quest line, but rather players who've spent hundreds of hours honing their builds its gotta be jarring for them

[charred oracle]

Amazing feature that allows me to unlock Timelock before fighting CoW 🔥

[west leaf]

the very few forced questlines for raids are way too easy overall

i do like how rol1 teaches the player about dodging boss attack patterns tho its kinda nice

[charred yarrow]

What

[rotund peak]

what

[charred yarrow]

Oh yeah the worm thing

[west leaf]

you know how theres like a survival phase thingy in the quest

[charred oracle]

He’s talking about the Grootslang survival phase

When Lari is yapping to calm it down

[west leaf]

its like boss attack patterns but dumbed down a lot but its still introduction in some form

[rotund peak]

i think even on level you can just afk there

[charred oracle]

Then she fails and you both get consumed, then she gets desperate and accidentally kills the Wyrm

Then she takes you to the NotG entrance and entrusts you to kill the Wyrms because she’s a pacifist.

[charred yarrow]

It should be the same as actual groot and you have to nohit it for like 30s

[charred oracle]

Well, she was up until you made her question herself in RoL IV

[west leaf]

hey better than nothing!

nol questline doesnt introduce anything new about combat
tcc questline... yeah
tna........

[charred oracle]

Axtuallly yeah it should be a survival phase, but idk if they want to spoil a lot for you during the quest.

The raids are meant to have some surprises.

[rotund peak]

they all teach you how to hold shift

[charred oracle]

Well, if you count the one time when you and Aledar jump in to a void hole during AJF.

[west leaf]

except voidholes in tna dont even work the same

[charred yarrow]

AJF should force you to do eo at the end

[charred oracle]

Eh they do!

The void holes in TNA can teleport you

[simple cobalt]

ajf teaches you that void holes DONT kill you i think

[charred yarrow]

^

[charred oracle]

Lmao

Jumped in to TNA’s void hole and took 8K damage

[west leaf]

updated the eye is so cool and the design actually resembles what you will see in raids

and the difficulty actually holds

[simple cobalt]

Real

[charred oracle]

I know, the parkour was intense

[west leaf]

ok maybe not the parkour 😭

[charred oracle]

[charred yarrow]

Eo is honestly hard on bad builds

[simple cobalt]

thats the only thing that stops me from playing eo a lot lmao

[west leaf]

istg the parkour is either really easy or really hard or people just cheese it

[simple cobalt]

I probably need to make a build thats just for eo

[astral sable]

the mini bosses in ajf have like < 200k hp and than people go into tna where the boss has like 28m hp

[west leaf]

ajf has a miniboss?

[charred oracle]

When you traverse the obsidian path

[astral sable]

when ur going through the portals to reach the other side of the wall

[simple cobalt]

mutated spider 🤤

[charred oracle]

When you enter the void hole on top of the monolith, there is a miniboss you fight.

[west leaf]

I THOUGHT THOSE ARE JUST RANDOM MOBS HUH

[brazen lake]

nol player praising a raid: the rooms end when the gameplay ends 😃

[west leaf]

its like one of the mobs is bigger or smth but i never really thought of it as a miniboss

[simple cobalt]

There is? I did the quest yesterday and all I did was the 2 slime sections?

[charred oracle]

Well I guess it is since the quest tells you to defeat it specifically

[charred yarrow]

In tcc the gameplay starts when the room ends!

[charred oracle]

You probably just killed it really fast

[astral sable]

idk they might just be random bombs but i thought the idea was like a gauntlet of mini bosses u had to go through

[woven patrol]

💡

[west leaf]

anyway i feel like in the very new quests they do a way better job of having bosses with real mechanics so players will eventually understand that they need to dodge shit and play with the mechanics in mind

[simple cobalt]

no like i went from the slime section to pass the wall

[charred oracle]

How do we feel about the dungeon bosses

[west leaf]

the great bridge boss is a nice example and probably the final boss in that one quest that gives you sirens call too

[charred oracle]

The ones that got updated, not.

[astral sable]

underworld crypt boss is like not a real boss 😭

[charred yarrow]

The eye is cool theorick is really cool

[west leaf]

they are nice honestly apart from underworld, the difficulty is still not that high but you actually have to dodge

[charred yarrow]

TIMELOST SANCTUARY IS SO COOL

[mossy vapor]

I won't lie that boss is so easy

[charred oracle]

Would you say Great Bane or Theorick is more difficult at level

[charred yarrow]

It has 15 health or something ive never seen it attack

[west leaf]

theorick

[charred yarrow]

Bridge guy is tankier i think

[west leaf]

great bane attacks are not easy to evade but they are not too punishing howveer theorick is a chaotic one with punishing attacks

[simple cobalt]

cib theorick is the only forgery boss I get a bit nervous on just because of the chaos in the tiny room tbh

[mossy vapor]

I swear it has half the health that Infested pit has

[west leaf]

infested pit is a hard boss at level lowkey

you actually have to dodge with mobility spell while trying to damage it which is like, quite high standards relative to other stuff at that level

i think haros is also hard but i havent tried it since update

[simple cobalt]

sad how forgery parties are kinda dead because cuc basketball hoops waddareyagonnado

tbf they've been dead for a lot longer but nail in coffin type thing

[west leaf]

either way if a player has actually done these bosses they would be a lot more prepared for raids

[astral sable]

too bad they are all optional

[west leaf]

since dealing with raid bosses essentially take a similar skill set and an open mind to learn about mechanics

[simple cobalt]

every dungeon besides like eo is optional no?

[west leaf]

not even a hot take but having to do a dungeon multiple times for certain items already deter me from doing them even once during progression

[simple cobalt]

Also items locked to dungeon rain makes me just build around those items

[west leaf]

even eo is optional if your goal is just to raid or lr or prof or war which are what most players care about in endgame

[simple cobalt]

Yea

[winged coyote]

dungeons are too old school there’s no fun in doing parkour

[simple cobalt]

Eo is borderline required for prof tho unless you dont wanna hunted at all

[west leaf]

you essentially only lose a quest and panic zealot usage for not doing eo

[west leaf]

oh right hunted im too big of a coward to use that

[simple cobalt]

Real

[charred oracle]

From my experience proffing, hunted doesn't pose that big of a risk until Dernic mats.

[simple cobalt]

Hunters also hunt void

[west leaf]

its more because of uh paranoia

[charred oracle]

I guess the free trial of not getting hunted has expired

[west leaf]

one time i was proffing kanderstone ingots and i spammed spells to try to kill what i thought was a mob but turns out they are a HICH player and they freaked the fuck out

i would genuinely get a heart attack if i play hunted

[charred oracle]

I'd like to think you were tickling them since those players run around with full defense and agility gear pieces.

[simple cobalt]

just dont play hich lmao

[west leaf]

i mean kanderstone is like low level enough i think they just run like loot bonus gear instead idk since no one would expect to be hunted at such level

[charred oracle]

Was bro lookin for obelisk cores

Eh I won't overthink why they could've been there I just assumed:

• You are proffing at Lvl 105 or 106
• You can only attack people within a level difference of 10 from yours

[west leaf]

yeah im on a lvl105 class iirc and they were also mining kander at their own low level

[charred oracle]

I guess they needed to level some crafting profession maybe

Idk how people play HICH, guess they just wanted to play safe and not get overtly ambitious

[west leaf]

well doesnt really matter anyway i think i would get a heart attack no matter how tanky i am lmao if i play hich

[charred oracle]

I think the only time I had an encounter was when I was farming for sky mats and my jasmine bloom just hit some rando under me

[west leaf]

LMAO

[charred oracle]

We partied afterwards so I guess that's nice

[glass sentinel]

same with DS to be fair

early dungeons are surprisingly difficult if you go at level

[sour stirrup]

CWGs are barely better than aleph-null especially for low dps weapons

[rotund peak]

😭 aleph null believers still exist

[green mica]

Not even trying to be discreet no more I'm crine

[patent bobcat]

[split sinew]

Wynncraft doesn’t have to be a hardcore game to be enjoyable btw

[sharp wadi]

One is slop with no actual feedback this one is better

[rotund peak]

this is false

[split sinew]

If you feel like having a challenge play without pants or something

[rotund peak]

just say you hate me

[split sinew]

I enjoy having a relaxing gaming experience

[green mica]

Coat a delete wynncraft post with enough quillbotting and it'll be the same result

[fallen hinge]

10500 health

vs arakadicus' 7000

[tame sparrow]

I do as well, but at least SOME challenge is needed somewhere in this game. Right now balance is actually dead and the game is easier than ever so its kinda hard to justify playing

endgame is lowkey the easiest part of the game

[green mica]

If you think some challenge isn't present then you have a totally warped outlook on what difficulty in games is

[split sinew]

^^

There’s enough ways to challenge yourself

Do a full morph greg solo or something if you’re up for it

[gusty mortar]

My problem with that is that my teammates are jacked up captain americas compared to me, who just do everything regardless of whether I exist

[green mica]

So you're prequeuing with strong players or overexaggerating the people you queue into

It's still plenty difficult of an activity regardless you're just too experienced for something that makes up a small % of the game

[west leaf]

this stems from over-representation bias because sweats play more raids than casuals hence there is a higher likelihood of playing with a sweat than the likelihood of randomly selecting a raid player and getting a sweat

[gusty mortar]

I understand what you are saying, but it's not a non-problem is it?

I will admit that I did exaggerate it a bit

[west leaf]

it is probably the biggest problem of the meta rn yeah

[rotund peak]

where is the challenge then

not asking to rb just wondering what in the game could be classified as challenging

the bosses have like 10 attacks combined, and all mobs outside of bosses are oneshot with a slightly optimised build

[green mica]

That doesn't make it any less challenging, this game is not a souls game and it'll never be near that

[rotund peak]

of course doing the boss for the first time is gonna be hard, but you are incentivised to do it over a thousand times to get aspects

[split sinew]

Maybe you’d be interested in guild wars

[green mica]

The 1000x repitition doesn't mean anything here why are you bringing it up

[rotund peak]

it does mean something, though? the game becomes to easy after like 50 clears, and then you have to do 950 raids more

and 1000 clears are not enough for all aspects either tbh

[green mica]

What do you consider challenging after you complete it 50-1000x times

Literally anything at all

[rotund peak]

maybe you shouldnt need it to be repeated 1000x in the first place

i think there should be more mechanics to scale difficulty, and thus give more rewards

[rich remnant]

thats a whole different problem

[split sinew]

A lot of mmos are very grindy in the endgame

Nobody forces you to max your aspects

[rich remnant]

scale difficulty is also not nerfing items.

Scaling difficulty for better rewards is a peak idea actually

[rotund peak]

thats true, but nerfing items makes it so the only requierment to clear the raid isnt staying awake

it will never happen 😢

[rich remnant]

i dont think it is like that rn

[rotund peak]

its what the gambit system is supposed to be

[rich remnant]

sadly the gambit system is very unproportional. Instead of enforcing difficulty it just encourages having multiple classes with different builds because otherwise you cant run 3 gambits since theres always one that kills your build / playstyle if you dont have different options

[rotund peak]

someone should make a cf post about gambits being bad!

[rich remnant]

wouldnt that be a great idea!

[green mica]

If this game prioritized high challenge high reward over current difficulty mass repetition it'd be dead, your solution is not Wynncraft

[rotund peak]

the game would be dead if there was challenging endgame content?

i know a lot of people who has quit the game since the game is simply to easy

[green mica]

You're being disingenuous, 👋

[rotund peak]

sure bro

just say "youre right" next time

[split sinew]

Wars are challenging end game content

[charred oracle]

Or maybe it’s because there isn’t much content to do after you’ve experienced much of the endgame.

This is the cycle of most video games, surprise surprise.

People get bored doing the same thing

[rotund peak]

wars are locked behind being in one of the five guilds that war, and its not uncommon to see hqs stand for like a week untouched

doesnt seem like wars are the solution

[split sinew]

Look at the map rn

Also thats a cheap excuse for not coming up with war tech yourself

[rotund peak]

the problem is not that its hard to come up with war tech, its that unless you have a lot of people from different time zones gl holding a claim

[rich remnant]

the only hq that sometimes stands for close to a week untouched is seq.

[rotund peak]

jungle was like 8 days a week ago

[rich remnant]

and every single guild on map right now + like 5 more attacker guilds are warrers

[rotund peak]

JUNGLE 8 DAYS

[rich remnant]

jungle is ffa its not even a claim

[rotund peak]

thats even worse, ffa not being taken

[rich remnant]

people just like NewMoon
oh nooo

current timer on jungle is 1 day btw

[rotund peak]

means no new players are even trying to learn war

[rotund peak]

please look at lutho

my point is just, warring is not the only solution needed to fix endgame

its something you do like once a day as a defender guild

[west leaf]

be an attacker duh

[rotund peak]

and as an attacking guild there is no reward except it being fun

[west leaf]

reward is an issue for warring tbh

[rotund peak]

🤯

[rich remnant]

absolutely

[west leaf]

the whole system isnt even that bad (people still play it after all) but holy shit this thing is like negative money generation even if you have max seekings

[rotund peak]

like 40 people do it yeah

[rich remnant]

the way seeking got nerfed and the reasoning behind it was utter bullshit.
But holy derail

[rotund peak]

out of entire playerbase

[green mica]

You keep a shitpost unlocked long enough and the topic becomes unrecognizable

[split sinew]

It’s a game idc about rewards i care about fun :)

Jungle being 8 days is surprising but i only care about harder hqs

Need that challenge

[rotund peak]

good for you 👍

[rich remnant]

it is not and also wasnt

[rotund peak]

7 and a half my bad..

[patent bobcat]

This isn’t a shitpost

[shy monolith]

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(sorry just sending a message to take a ss for weekly)