OFFICIAL Blizzard Brawl 2025 feedback thread

[drowsy isle]

garwick nerf rickeo buff

alr ign

lets test garwick rq

[toxic plover]

Why and how should Rickeo be buffed?

[woeful surge]

badlife_ly

[drowsy isle]

rickeo is booty cheekys

[woeful surge]

what the f

[drowsy isle]

designed to be a dps who can self sustain

but he cant do that

[toxic plover]

What would you change about him?

[drowsy isle]

80 hp prolly

also increased m1/m2 projectile speed

well maybe no 80 hp if increased m1/m2 speed

[tight aurora]

no buff about heals?

[drowsy isle]

buff heals to match dmg

so like 5.5/5.5

[tight aurora]

5.5 heal...... that's double amount

[drowsy isle]

that or make the heal hitbox bigger

maybe have heal hitbox match the particle cloud size

while the damage hitbox remains the same

idea behind the particles im assuming is so that enemies are aware of how much you have charged anyways or smth

or maybe its just for fun

[woeful surge]

not sure if i can get 32dmg rmb in real fight by manual click i think it requires the system to cast for you but yeah the max is 32

(gawrick)

[tight aurora]

tfw you're charging and enemy is caught in black hole

[drowsy isle]

tfw youre using an intended mechanic against an enemy caught in your intended mechanic

[tight aurora]

tfw throwing black hole straight up to sky

uh wait
Does anyone do this

[drowsy isle]

everyone does

[tight aurora]

Throwing black hole straight up to the sky

[drowsy isle]

(with a brain)

[tight aurora]

damn it guess high rating is scary

[woeful surge]

just knew black hole has velocity i used it wrong this whole time

i tp up and cast it down instead of throw it up

[tight aurora]

tp up and throw down.... wtf

[toxic plover]

What's your rating?

[tight aurora]

1050

[drowsy isle]

oh did it fall

[limpid ether]

Why are we talking about rarings

Ratings

[drowsy isle]

idk

[tight aurora]

wynnverwatch

[drowsy isle]

ratings arent used to pair people in matchmaking

only in team balancing

(not enough people for it to be used for matchmaking)

[tight aurora]

often it feels like game doesn't care

[limpid ether]

The nefarious new player who has not done the tutorial:

Doomish tou should follow up the nerf gawrick poll with what ppl would think is a good nerf

Ie dmg on rmb, lmb, etc

[drowsy isle]

ye

[limpid ether]

I think there probably one nerf away from meybe being balanced

We dont wanna swing the pendulum the other way

[woeful surge]

i was pretty sure theres a way to make it floats but idk...

[limpid ether]

Also unless enemy has good comp/team in general you can deal with a good gawrick with li tom or yahya/other gawrick thh

[limpid ether]

Corners yeah

Concave

Ie point b and d

The pillars

You can also ult during someones long ult like li or theo to mask it

Cus they will be distracted

[woeful surge]

ic

[limpid ether]

Left click range?

[drowsy isle]

yeah idk

[limpid ether]

Doesn’t ir havw no limit

[drowsy isle]

12 blocks

[limpid ether]

Unless you mean falloff

Isk if range limit woild do anything

[drowsy isle]

yeah me neither but like

if ppl wanna vote it

ig

[limpid ether]

Gawrick can easily move in if they want

Right click reverse fall off?

Like a tipper hitbox?

[drowsy isle]

yeah so closer you are, the less damage

[limpid ether]

Ah

[drowsy isle]

saw someone suggest that

[limpid ether]

So tipper

[drowsy isle]

yeah

[tight aurora]

Straight-up throw locks it on the air
Just being a little off from straight makes it fall to ground

It's weird

[drowsy isle]

yeah as far as i could tell in training range, tossing it below a like 80% angle makes it so it wont start until it hits ground

[limpid ether]

You can also be falling while throwing to delay it a bit

[drowsy isle]

anything higher locks it after 6 blocks

[drowsy isle]

well its only got a 14 block range

so falling would reduce the range

[limpid ether]

No i mean

[drowsy isle]

like that

[limpid ether]

So it bounces

Snd use it to scare ppl

Rather then cat hing them

[drowsy isle]

since when did it bounce

[limpid ether]

Kinda loke theo ult

If u throw it when falling

Try jt

[tight aurora]

If up throw is well known....
How about throwing while predicting enemy spawn timer

[drowsy isle]

if you mean when it locks in place and does the windup

[limpid ether]

Straight down

[drowsy isle]

oh that

[limpid ether]

No before that

[limpid ether]

Kind of

Use it to basically keep enemy away from point between respwn

[tight aurora]

damn it high rating is scary

[limpid ether]

For like 7 sevonds

Can be nice

[limpid ether]

Wdym

High rating skills?

[drowsy isle]

(yy kidnapped some people into a game and lost 8 sr cause the enemy team all left 💀 )

[limpid ether]

Yy i play with pqche she is a nasty gawrick

I have to deal with her lol i know the trivis

[drowsy isle]

maybe referring to scary like that

[limpid ether]

Tricks

[limpid ether]

LOL WTF

lmao

Not jolly

[drowsy isle]

those who 3v1

[tight aurora]

no doomish I'm talking about what enderclaw said
but anyway yeah that's also true

wynned

[limpid ether]

Dr L

[drowsy isle]

i mean the only people who can directly contest a garwick are like

[limpid ether]

Handing out those L’s

[drowsy isle]

theo, some dr li's, and tom

[limpid ether]

Another gawrick?

[drowsy isle]

rarely tom tho

[limpid ether]

Supee fast action

[drowsy isle]

eh garwick mirrors are annoying

i dont force em if i can

[limpid ether]

Compete for healthpacks

[tight aurora]

gawrick mirror the mind game

[drowsy isle]

if its a washed game tho, ill go garwick just for practice

[limpid ether]

Exactly

Teo blackholes

Two

[tight aurora]

Which pillar will he come from?

[drowsy isle]

me personally id rather theo

[limpid ether]

I gotta do that for mt remaining achievemnts

Ie rikeo tom and theo

[drowsy isle]

oh boy cant wait to black hole 3 people
evil and intimidating theo spear coming to concuss your skull

[limpid ether]

Lmao

Thats only on startup tho

[drowsy isle]

nah its weird

if you stun while its a projectile

[limpid ether]

Is it not?

[drowsy isle]

it does nothing

it has to land first

[limpid ether]

Yeah so on startup

Like dying

Once its up its up

[tight aurora]

washed game?

[drowsy isle]

no like you can only stun to remove it once its up

[limpid ether]

Losing

[drowsy isle]

when i 3 stack with pqche and notch and they both get put on the enemy team

[limpid ether]

Oh so the opposite

Weird

[drowsy isle]

yeah

so you cant insta stun

its weird

gotta delay it a bit

[limpid ether]

Guess no one plays good theo vs gawrick so it isnt very common knowledge lol

[drowsy isle]

theo is a lot more interesting to stun

at any point where its doing damage you can stun to remove it

so it can be ticking damage for 3 seconds

but a stun deletes it

[tight aurora]

camping on enemy bridge wall
camping on enemy bridge wall
camping on enemy bridge wall

[drowsy isle]

dr li is immune at least

neither ult can be stunned

(im waiting for the day sock makes it so theo shield can block yahya)

[limpid ether]

What orher ults are stunned

Tbeo too right

[drowsy isle]

yeah

[limpid ether]

Mmh

[drowsy isle]

tom, irlok, theo, garwick, yahya

[limpid ether]

What about tom and yahya

Oh wow

[drowsy isle]

it was fixed yeah

[limpid ether]

Dr li W

[tight aurora]

tom wastes ulti if stunned

[drowsy isle]

i do find it weird how tom cant attack while ulting

while yahya can

even tho they are functionally extremely similar

[limpid ether]

Yahya moment

Mobiliry into ult

[drowsy isle]

yeah what i do is insta ult as yahya when i die

and shift back from spawn

youll never see it coming

[toxic plover]

Do any other characters than Gawrick need to be nerfed?

[drowsy isle]

eh see how nerfing 1 character changes the meta

[woeful surge]

#ReworkTom

[drowsy isle]

with how little characters are comparatively in the game, nerfing 1 character changes everything

like if li was nerfed to the ground the game would be completely different

[toxic plover]

Why?

[drowsy isle]

if rickeo was buffed to be better than current garwick, same thing

[woeful surge]

he is boring

[drowsy isle]

eh hes designed to be that

the classic gun guy

[woeful surge]

In a game everyone uses magic(I would count dr leg magic cause he uses technology onto a crazy level) he just like a guy you can find in every fps

and boring strong before nerf and even after nerf

(User diff)

[tight aurora]

It's always tom users in low combat level

[drowsy isle]

i think level 10 players are usually very good at the game

[woeful surge]

🐦 🐦‍⬛

i might train my tom more

[woeful surge]

he got insta killed by my teammates at start

mostly is just tom's too boring and have to get a irlok/gawrick to counter him
strong only when no irlok or gawrick

[drowsy isle]

those who theorick

[woeful surge]

bro the duat

[drowsy isle]

what durat doin

[woeful surge]

ill show later hes so annoying on garick

[limpid ether]

Li is alright against tom

Depends how bad they are at ammo management

[drowsy isle]

oh boy cant wait to mech
one tom m2 shift later

[limpid ether]

Thats why you count bullets

[woeful surge]

nvm i got duat so far after first death

[limpid ether]

Either they shotgun to maybe demech you oe use to get away

Then you vlast them

Its a gawrick type of situation when you get em when they used mobility

[drowsy isle]

which is why i gamer strat of reloading every 3s

never drop below 3 ammo

[limpid ether]

let the enemy make there own mistakes

• some wise guy

[drowsy isle]

a pretty wise dragon probably

[tight aurora]

let our teammate blamed for their own mistakes

• shitty chicken guy

[limpid ether]

his ass does NOT play minigames

i didnt even see them in btb

i better see them in cth

bullying will commence

[limpid ether]

real

[woeful surge]

dont find li is that dangerous really

in mech he has to hit you which you can just dodge

and he would be a easy target after

[drowsy isle]

surely he wouldnt instantly fire a missile the frame he enters mech

clueless

[woeful surge]

its just like -3 bullet cause they go for backup shotgun

irlok and gawrick are those that -3 bullet does not help

oh wait i closed my medal i didnt not record what duat did

basically he gawrick and walk on my face while im tom and i cant shot him at all due to ping his ws and the weird hitbox lmao

we got a lv10 playing gawrick gg

[limpid ether]

but if you have no bullets...

[drowsy isle]

Just reload

shrimple

[woeful surge]

never!!!

[woeful surge]

https://medal.tv/zh-Hant/games/minecraft/clips/lMbz9ZFxLD-3omVBD?invite=cr-MSxBMkEsNDU5MzgwNTQ2&v=6

im not in the mood of any class but hailey really

but if i play hailey i have no way to deal with gaw

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1349676048639594559/1448654122965536953/1.gif

might just wait the justice balance come

[drowsy isle]

how does one even flick like that

[woeful surge]

🐀

[past mortar]

what is nip nop doin

[drowsy isle]

being better than you

[random swallow]

Is that a bugged Dr Li rocket in the background 😭

Also what a specimen, hit 24 dmg and used all CDs, missed LMB, and sent themselves to the respawn

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1162564880583381133/1301423238840061952/watermark.gif

[grave umbra]

Genius

[random swallow]

What a performance on garwick, definitely deserving of 1100 sr

[grave umbra]

Is this a sig to swjd rhis to him in monu coord 🤯

[random swallow]

I want that clip edited to after the death play the lobotomy sound and show the ss from monkey

[tight aurora]

Car accident sound

[feral hemlock]

like any good gawrick it was an in-and-out operation

[polar gulch]

in-and-outofthemap operation

[sharp finch]

Garwick is so hard to hit on high ping

[limpid ether]

@sand fiber this achievmenet is STILL bugged this thing is cursed

i got it but the text is funky because it cant do italics lol

[tight aurora]

blizzard brawl 2025

🎣 Fishing people with invites until party reaches 4 players

[woeful surge]

😭

[limpid ether]

media gameplay

[woeful surge]

“Join this party for participating my new vid!”

[tight aurora]

WHY WON'T YOU DIE

[alpine siren]

Nanomachines , son

They harden in response to blizzard brawling

[alpine siren]

I'd like to congratulate Expedition 33 for winning the blizzard brawl clip competition

[light narwhal]

Anyone up for some bbrawl?

Pfinder is dysfunctional

CT can you make bbrawl queue with 4 people in pfinder

If like the speed is not "very fast"

[tight aurora]

A party did not accept the match. Your party was re-added to the queue.

[polar gulch]

sentenced to another three hours of bb queue

[azure raft]

I love barbecue 🤤

[limpid ether]

i think this is the best approach ngl

also tuning dmg down a bit

[drowsy isle]

the passive being a perma 40% speed is a bit nutty

[limpid ether]

the increased charge to max also like

makes the nukes much easier to throw

gawrick rn cna just stay at mid range and harass you if shots land

and vyou cant do a lot cus they run around or tp away

unless hitscan like tom or li

theo too ig but they can just get in close and take off

i think yahyas bomb still needs a size reduction because its still way to big given how small it is then i think yahya is fine

i would nerf gawrick lmb to 6 dmg and yahya bomb hitbox to like 4-5 blocks

gawrick speed no clue

actually 30 to 50 maybe instead of 40 to 60

[ornate fulcrum]

4v4 blizzy brawl

[limpid ether]

evil

[ornate fulcrum]

unless 3v3 is hardcoded (rhethorical question everything in blizzard brawl is hardcoded)

[limpid ether]

p sure it is

sort of

[sand fiber]

i got bad news.............

[tight aurora]

bad news is bb ends in 9 days

[drowsy isle]

that or longer fuse time + make it glow

[limpid ether]

both

well i think just making it smaller is better

it also wall bangs like bruh

[drowsy isle]

(make it assassin sticky bomb to force an atom of skill into yahya players)

[ornate fulcrum]

the only thing not hardcoded in blizzard brawl are ability numbers

[limpid ether]

i think the timer is fine

as long as it glows + smaller area

the dmg can stay so long as the above are nerfed

[drowsy isle]

either land it on the ground for small avoidable glowing bomb

or stick it to an enemy

where it would apply marks on a dot in an aoe centered on them

[limpid ether]

nah it doesnt need stickng if it wallbangs

[drowsy isle]

i mean reworking it entirely wouldnt be horrible

cause rn its just a pretty nothing burger ability with a nothing burger debuff

[limpid ether]

big dmg in big area

that you cant realistcally avoid

[tight aurora]

If you hear sound you get hit while knowing it

🤸‍♂️

[azure raft]

your mission for next winter is to soft code everything 👍

[sand fiber]

I was considering a big blizzy brawl rewrite

but there's a lot to rewrite

[plucky fable]

The jungle calls

[azure raft]

bro coded blizzard brawl, coded an update for it, then discovered what variables were

[sand fiber]

there are many variables

already

[drowsy isle]

oh yeah sock on the note of hardcoded stuff

is yahya intended to be allowed to just

phase through theo shield via shift

cause i remember u saying theo shield was hardcoded at some point

[sand fiber]

uhhhhhhhhhh yeah sure

I forgot to code it in lowkey

but I kinda cba

[drowsy isle]

another reason to hate yahya

[woeful surge]

9days we won’t get gaw nerf before that 🥀

[tight aurora]

@limpid ether In fact NPCs are full of texts that it's hard to read

[limpid ether]

wdym

[tight aurora]

this is what we see

this is how it looks to them

[limpid ether]

wtf

funny joke

reading comprehension challenge

[tight aurora]

especially most people don't read quests in wynn

[limpid ether]

i think its still on them like

[tight aurora]

so if you call people dumb again even if it's so true I'll /emote sing behind you again

[limpid ether]

do these people just join any new thing without trying to learn about it at all

[limpid ether]

then i will report you for inappropriate behavior idk lol

[tight aurora]

NOOOOO

-# have people actually banned for emote usage yet e

[limpid ether]

i can't comment on this

[tight aurora]

I think that answers

🥶

[ornate fulcrum]

i have seen some inappropriate uses of emotes

[tight aurora]

Snow Angel + Cheer

the deadly combo

[ornate fulcrum]

is using emotes inapropiately a bannable offense under inappropriate behaviour?

[tight aurora]

uh I think that's what he no comments for

It's implying "don't risk it even if you're curious"

[ornate fulcrum]

im asking a mod if an action is bannable

[limpid ether]

thats for whether people have been banned for it since i can't comment on what other people have recieved

[tight aurora]

oops mb

[limpid ether]

if you abuse it enough times to enough unwilling people then it isn't out of the picture given the picture of that you wouldnt care about the rules by continuing said actions despite hypothetical previous infractions

anyways enough talk about non bb related things

[tight aurora]

Are you writing this after a game
I noticed I wasn't in a queue

asdfasdfzxfasdcvzxcvasc

[limpid ether]

no i gotta do

aspect pool

[tight aurora]

oh.

3 a.m.

dw you'll still do more bb than raids on next week

[limpid ether]

those who are awake

[tight aurora]

bb........ makes........ money...........

-# no aspects

[limpid ether]

7 le per frag is nice

[ornate fulcrum]

wait who buys fragments

[limpid ether]

colossual rat judging by the screenshot

idk if anyone else is rn

theres your answer ig

[tight aurora]

I've always been the cheap seller for overall events e (I'm just a minigame enjoyer after all)
-# Actually my offer is slightly cheaper than what I calculated for 🆚 raid completion time
-# why is it going 12le?

[limpid ether]

greed

[lucid latch]

Do you have the clip?

[ornate fulcrum]

it was ai generated

[light narwhal]

2 sr?

How does this work lol

People are queueing rn btw

[grave umbra]

Wat elo r u

[light narwhal]

805

[runic stratus]

im guessing its since you were playing against extremely low elo players?

[light narwhal]

Ig, that's fair

[steel rain]

delete garwick from the game

[tight aurora]

nogood after experiencing my spawn road camp gawrick

[drowsy isle]

evil and intimidating f5

always a good idea to be in f5 when returning from spawn

[tight aurora]

uhh actually I just charged right in front -> teleported behind -> finished from back

-# actually Idk if it was him, can't remember cuz played too much game today

spawn road camp not the real spawn camp

whatever evil behavior

[drowsy isle]

oh yeah execute of doom and despair

44 dmg burst is still nutty for not needing to build anything up

irlok needs harmony/to use all his cooldowns

yahya needs stacks

tom needs to be in melee range and use 3/8 of his ammo

li needs to mech

garwick teleports in, nukes, and leaves

not particularly avoidable either

warp wishes it was this strong

[tight aurora]

gawrick never leaves......

nukes from any distance

[drowsy isle]

self sustain

perma 40% speed

two movement abilities that are teleports

[tight aurora]

What if gawrick is reworked to be more heal based class 🤯

[drowsy isle]

that's what I'm sayin

rework gleamsphere to 5:5

[tight aurora]

nah, ffa

[drowsy isle]

free for all?

[tight aurora]

yes

😈

[drowsy isle]

nerf garwick down to 35 and we have a deal

[tight aurora]

deal

[drowsy isle]

(at the same rate fix tom m2 so it will reliably hit all 4 bullets point blank)

its not even like it's inconsistent

it will consistently only hit 1 bullet at point blank

like if tom is gonna have a shotgun m2

have it work as a shotgun

rn you need to be at a like 3-5 block range for it to reliably do more than 10 dmg

[polar gulch]

except when it's the enemy tom hitting a 360 no scope while falling off a roof

[drowsy isle]

Yeah it's basically a tipper attack

low range attack that does the most at the very end

which I guess you can argue is skill expression but then it being a shotgun is weird

tho then again a tipper shotgun sounds funny as hell

[tight aurora]

on queue 🛌

[grave umbra]

I was playing skylanders with my brothr instead lol

[woeful apex]

holy peak

[hollow sable]

I’m gonna be fr it took me like 3 min to understand the joke

I do not read the Wynn npc text because it’s not friendly to the eyes lol

[tight aurora]

I'm still on queue 🛌

[limpid ether]

I went to sleep and woke up and i still see you online

🤨

[tight aurora]

and I still played few games

A party did not accept the match. Your party was re-added to the queue.

[limpid ether]

Isnr ot like 3 am dor you

[tight aurora]

A PLAYER DID NOT ACCEPT THE MATCH. YOUR PARTY WAS RE-ADDED TO THE QUEUE.

[limpid ether]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-busy-laptop-gif-15731367

[tight aurora]

Now it's 2 am and I'm still looking for queue

[limpid ether]

those who sleep

[tight aurora]

5 hours queue 1 game

[polar gulch]

just log off atp buh

[steel rain]

I never ever ever want to see a garwick player ever again

[limpid ether]

remember to lobby for gawrick speed and dmg nerf

stats currently

[tight aurora]

I don't see change on auto heal thing

[limpid ether]

wdym

[tight aurora]

what's changed e

[limpid ether]

no i mean those are CURRENT stats

so people are aware of like

[tight aurora]

🥴

[limpid ether]

the two things ppl want changed most

[tight aurora]

wtf ender types just as I log off

[limpid ether]

i suggest dmg from 7.5 to 5 and ws changed to 20-40

those who log off

[tight aurora]

In future we'll see healer Gawrick.....

In parallel universe we'll see barrage Gawrick...............

[robust dagger]

This passive cannot be real

I have never seen it do anything

[limpid ether]

the ws is what really does a lot

once u slow gawrick and they have no tp they are a sitting duck

healing doesnt really matter tho cus they always go for healthpacks

[steel rain]

In another parallel universe we garwick removed from the game (this is the good universe)

[robust dagger]

I have never seen that hp tick up once

[limpid ether]

u gotta be at max speed for 1 hpr

[tight aurora]

what do you mean bee
It is very visible passive

If you're only moving to side or backpedalling then it won't trigger

[grave umbra]

We were highkey just fighting each other for like 5 hours on a new save tryinf out all the fellas we had and ended up having a 9 minute fight at one point 😭

[grave umbra]

Skill izue

[robust dagger]

Oh 💀

[grave umbra]

Thi guy never realized u cant sprint without holding w 🤯

[robust dagger]

I am always moving to the side

[grave umbra]

Not the 45 degree walkwr 🤯

[robust dagger]

Me 🥀

[runic stratus]

Time Estimate: Fast

yeah it went up to 36m this is not happening

[grave umbra]

Finish megido abyss ts not queueing competent players for 5 mor hours 🥀

[woeful apex]

https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/lJEWamejgfCNxZQIz?invite=cr-MSxDbEgsMTg5MzM0MDA0&v=5

forgot that i had this clip

forgot i had my music on oops

[light narwhal]

People are queueing rn

Please join someone nip nop wrecking us

[limpid ether]

The sr farmer

P sure they are above 1.1k and sroll complain LOL

[woeful surge]

The healing doesn’t proc when max passive

secret limit to gaw but he’s still op

[toxic plover]

How much SR does he have?

[limpid ether]

Something above 1100 last i remember them bragging

[drowsy isle]

Crazy how high sr for how bad he is at the game

well, relative to the sr that is

like he isn't bad, but I'd say he's only like upper 900's/low 1000

[toxic plover]

Is he really that bad?

[drowsy isle]

upper 900's low 1000 is compared to pfinder not that bad

but for being 1.1k Sr +

he is pretty bad

it's like a masters player isn't that bad

but for being supposedly top 10 sr wise

their skill is comparatively really bad

[tight aurora]

-# sr grinding from destroying pfinder

[unborn meadow]

He never complains when he’s up against me so

Guess he only gets upset when he’s against good players

[limpid ether]

exact mindset from destroying randos then yapping against good players

[toxic plover]

Who is the best blizzard brawl player?

[limpid ether]

btb flashbacks

[limpid ether]

i dont think there is truly one best player

unless you wanna like

account for who they main and how many classes they can preform well at

[tight aurora]

btb is.... teamwork.......................
which nipnop also refuses

[toxic plover]

Ok, who's the best at each character?

[limpid ether]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-skill-issue-simply-a-difference-in-skill-simply-sitting-cat-gif-23649415

[limpid ether]

im pretty good at li :)

[tight aurora]

stop predicting rocket

[limpid ether]

no!!!!!!!

i will slow you

[tight aurora]

Why is my teleport cooldown

[limpid ether]

lol

[tight aurora]

🛌

[limpid ether]

a mimir

[woeful surge]

[grave umbra]

I am goijg tobclip that kill of u dying yo a rocket immediatly after goikg up first point stairs 😇

[tight aurora]

i hate slowness i hate slowness i hate slowness

[last mist]

so funny thing about this minigame I discovered, damage here does in fact count as durability damage for craftsman characters and/or for crafted equipment

I learnt that the hard way and it took me a bit too long till I noticed lol

[polar gulch]

doom

*tom blasts your entire set *

[drowsy isle]

kappa best irlok

claw or notch best li

yy or pqche best garwick

[tight aurora]

gg claw

[drowsy isle]

calandben might be best hailey

[tight aurora]

⁉️

[drowsy isle]

there's this guy who's really good at both Theo and yahya but I can't remember who

best tom is hard to determine

best rickeo is also hard to determine but for an entirely different reason

and that's about it

[sand fiber]

best everything is sockmower

[drowsy isle]

best dev award goes to expedition 33

[sand fiber]

fuck

[polar gulch]

best gawrick is me (this is rael talk)

[drowsy isle]

dw they used ai so they're disqualified

[polar gulch]

best indie game award to blizzard brawl

[woeful apex]

you mispelt expedition 33

[tight aurora]

blizzard queue 2/6

[delicate kelp]

YOU

[delicate kelp]

omw

[drowsy isle]

hm?

oh the guy with the username YOU plays wynncraft?

thats pretty cool

[delicate kelp]

don't you play yahya and theorick?

[drowsy isle]

hm?

idk

[delicate kelp]

😵‍💫

[woeful surge]

🤯

[polar gulch]

bb gang which one should i read first: homunculus, 20th century boys, goodnight punpun or slam dunk

this is very important and super related to bb

[woeful apex]

mods they've gone off topic, nuke the thread

[polar gulch]

so real

now answer

[drowsy isle]

air bud

[polar gulch]

This mf?

[drowsy isle]

mhm

hes a baller

[polar gulch]

hell yeah

[grave umbra]

its so beautiful 🥺

i did t he sdame thing to an irlock tofay but the queus r so goofy i dont wanna play an ymore 🥺

[limpid ether]

nuclear bomb

coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb

[woeful surge]

xdd

[toxic plover]

What characters are the most fun to play?

[drowsy isle]

Most opinion based question of all time

[woeful surge]

2024 irlok

[hollow sable]

Theorick

[sand fiber]

hows balance feeling this year folks

in the latest patch

[ornate fulcrum]

garlic

people are complaining a lot about that guy idk havent played

[hollow sable]

Uh he is basically a fly

A deadly fly that’s good at finishing people at low hp off

And basically unkillable for melee characters

[runic stratus]

why does irlok's movement feel so bad now btw

compared to like lsat year

[sand fiber]

unsure

haven't touched his code

lag maybe

[runic stratus]

main thing i think is that his right click just stops instead of giving you momentum i think

[limpid ether]

Mosquito

Malaria ridden

[limpid ether]

Garlic needs dmg + ws nerf and everything is mostly ok
Other things include rikeo buff (or rework but that falls into shit like theo passive being ass)

[crystal thicket]

gawrick too dps focused, damage + speed is never really a good combo as a support or in this balancing in general

[drowsy isle]

Remember how we had drugged up harmony

for like the first third to a half of 2024

It's probably that

[limpid ether]

If i had to pick one the ws has gotta go jt makes non hitscan classes havw a really hard time

Irs only really yahya? Li tom and maybe theo who can deal with em

Even then if the garlic can cycle health packs they are basically invincible

[drowsy isle]

yahya can only deal with garwick on point c

[limpid ether]

Chucking 40 dmg projectiles

[drowsy isle]

ab de garwick can do whatever they want

[limpid ether]

My idea

[limpid ether]

The two stats in question

[drowsy isle]

maybe have the ws like build up from 0

actually hmmm

20 isn't bad either

cause 0 might be giga harsh

I do think tho that if the damage is nerfed, heals should be buffed as compensation

and ig to lean more into support, let garwick give teammates more lingering speed

[limpid ether]

0 too harsh

[limpid ether]

Mmh maybe a tiny bit

It can be powerful when charged full

3.75 healing per second is a weird number to use anyways

5/5 doesnt seem that bad ngl

For dmg hwalin

[drowsy isle]

I mean think of it on paper tho

5 heals a second is like

not enough to sustain fully

[limpid ether]

You lose 33% dmg but gain 25% healing

[limpid ether]

For allgs

Allys

[drowsy isle]

yeah the usually stationary ish allies

I think the passive could be changed to be less selfish

actually

20-40 ws

each ally in range is 10% more ws

[limpid ether]

Mmmh ifk

Idk

[drowsy isle]

tho that is more code and not just balance tweaking

[limpid ether]

About that

[drowsy isle]

I mean the passive is I presume intended to be for allies

Also remember that his range is pretty small

I wanna say a 2 block radius

[crystal thicket]

tom maybe but a good gawrick can like predict tom and spam the shit out of tp just to one or 2 shot the tom

[drowsy isle]

if garwick gets a full blast off on tom before tom knows where garwick is

tom loses the duel

[tight aurora]

good gawrick focuses on aimbot tom in all the way around

[crystal thicket]

me chilling as tom, gets approached by a gawrick who tped 30 blocks away with a pre charged rmb

he’s also really hard to heal teammates with the rmb

something about directly hitting teammates while the pressure from fights is getting to your team doesn’t feel good

[drowsy isle]

you know what also doesn't feel good

'oh boy let me fire this 32 damage projectile into this swarm of enemies'

shield block thunk sound

[crystal thicket]

theoricks shield now moves with him

[tight aurora]

@lime eagle sniper

How is he hitting all when I'm trying not to do normal left-right move

🤸‍♂️

-# I needed to avoid getting into sight at all cost

[lime eagle]

i either hit em or miss em

i just played a game where i got 3200 dmg and still lost

it was so frustrating my team just didnt know how to use their kits unfortunately

it is what it is

the hit reg on tom's ult is a bit jank imo

when fired at enemies in your face

[grave umbra]

Its so annoyij to queue and then have your entire team but u go negative 😭

[lime eagle]

and this isnt cope i know multiple times over the course of the festival there have been ults i KNOW should've hit

yes ive legitimately missed plenty of ults too

if my teammate is a theorick who feeds then its like an instant lose for me

if my other teammate isnt a decent tank or healer

i think theorick is just a dookie kit honestly

so if a dookie player picks it its double dookie

maybe i should play other kits to give feedback

[grave umbra]

Theo hard carried by shield and rmb lol

I tjink @drowsy isle playe d a bit of theo

[drowsy isle]

[lime eagle]

ive heard people say RMB is super hard to hit

idk if i dont play theo

[drowsy isle]

wait blue lemme get a clip for you

its actually peak as shit

[grave umbra]

Its like 1s delay between rmb and it shooting out but its p fast

[drowsy isle]

https://youtu.be/PFUEaHVe2vg

[grave umbra]

That could prob get changed

[drowsy isle]

oh that delay yeah

you can see it most easily by clicking m1 and m2 at the same time

[lime eagle]

insane icicle spear lol

[drowsy isle]

and flicking your mouse

the m1 will fire exactly when you hit m1

but the m2 comes out like

a quarter of a second later

[drowsy isle]

also in terms of what

like in terms of playing theo

or from a game design pov

[lime eagle]

idk i havent played it so i cant say

definitely not game design. Shield guy with a kb ability its good

[drowsy isle]

theo requires like

actually factoring cooldowns

not like yahya who gets to hit m2 off rip

you gotta keep your spear for stunning yahya shift

to deny tom ult when you know they have it

also to deny yahya ult

be aware of where garwick is when they have ult so you can chase them down to stun them

stun li out of crushing blow

etc

same applies for barrier shield

tldr wynn players cant use theo cause they just cycle a spell cycle for 3 years

[tight aurora]

tbh in many situations pfinder players are better with Theorick rather than being.... sword zombie level 10
-# Ever seen Irlok who never uses ability and being 'Player_Tracker_AI MK.2'? Pain Pain Pain

Theorick lacks potential but also has higher lows than other classes which is enough to not completely throw the game

[lime eagle]

ye

i hate irloks who target me

it actually makes me wanna scream

[drowsy isle]

sadly tom is very jumpable

and if an irlok has 2 harmony, they can one shot combo you

[lime eagle]

i think at face vicinity enemies just dont take reg from tom attacks lol

[drowsy isle]

if you mean from m2 you are correct

[tight aurora]

blue was pretty good at positioning but still yeah can't really struggle against stubborns

[drowsy isle]

point blank m2 will only hit for 10-20 damage

its a tipper

[lime eagle]

whats m2

[drowsy isle]

the shotgun

[lime eagle]

i mean any shots tbh

[drowsy isle]

mouse 2

[tight aurora]

they found blue to be main threat for having good aim

[drowsy isle]

you hit me with it directly a few times but i just got in your face cause i know it only does 10 damage

[lime eagle]

i mean LMB

[drowsy isle]

ah

[tight aurora]

-# time for

[drowsy isle]

thats also cause im jumping through you over and over

[tight aurora]

@lime eagle blue stop getting caught by midair black holes!!!
-# I heard him screaming in chat when he's caught in middle bridge right after he respawned

[drowsy isle]

its something thatll happen with every shooter with no player collision

lmb itself is pretty accurate but the hitreg can only be so good when its minecraft

one thing tho is i dont think ur irlok comprehended how the barrier worked

i think they tried to kick me through it like

at least 6 times

maybe 7

[tight aurora]

nano machine

-# tfw trying to hit from inside but when the barrier hitbox is way too big

[drowsy isle]

mfw round hitbox in minecraft

[tight aurora]

circle in minecraft???

[lofty yoke]

oh my god what is this

[drowsy isle]

yahya

[lofty yoke]

is that a blizzard brawl class?

[drowsy isle]

mhm

new support

been nerfed like

3-4 times already

[lofty yoke]

i have yet to play blizzard brawl

[drowsy isle]

bomb is up to 16 dmg, but shift is down to 5 dmg, 4 self heals, 10 ally heals

[past mortar]

i knew it was the beef wellington

[drowsy isle]

lemme just get you current

[drowsy isle]

it is a lot sweatier than last year

cause sock made a working (enough) sr system

[toxic plover]

Is yahya still good?

[drowsy isle]

yahya is

balanced id say

well

close to it

m2 needs to not be dr li ult on a 12 second cooldown

https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/lNOwd8neuaL7hFOhU?invite=cr-MSxZOFQsNDU0NzA0MTE0

@lime eagle

i believe this is what you are referring to yes?

[lofty yoke]

mad skill issue

[tight aurora]

blue underestimated Theorick e

[limpid ether]

I think the dmg can stay but range has gotta get reverted

Like lookimg at changelog it was buffed from 5 to 7 day 1

If it didnt wallbang i wouldn’t mind as much but man it doesnt need that big of a range with 16 dmg 7 block radius

[drowsy isle]

a bit of glowing never hurt anyone either

[feral hemlock]

it's def pretty hard to see
and most of the time I just hear the ticking and "guess I'll take 16 damage"

[woeful surge]

gawrick crashing the whole bb
rickeo unknown character
tom is weirdly fine because of gawrick and irlok bullies

[woeful surge]

tom when anyone is 1block away from them

that’s more of a skill issue tho don’t understand why he managed to get close to you just to miss the shotgun lol

[grave umbra]

Its literallt a gamble wjether or not im in the radius or not when its ticking sometimes ive ran into tje bomb bc the sound is so loud lol

[drowsy isle]

to be fair

evil and intimidating irlok ult

also the first shot was a shotgun

irlok is on the right there

looking down the sightline that blue was running towards

hence the double back

[grave umbra]

The overanalyzer

[drowsy isle]

those who snowflake

[tight aurora]

evil pic

[lucid latch]

What could that possibly be

[tight aurora]

/emote laugh /emote laugh /emote laugh /emote laugh /emote laugh /emote laugh /emote laugh /emote laugh /emote laugh /emote laugh /emote laugh /emote laugh /emote laugh /emote laugh /emote laugh /emote laugh /emote laugh /emote laugh /emote laugh /emote laugh

[stable karma]

Me whenst I rationalise bad behaviour because they deserve it

[tight aurora]

Hour queue in progress

[polar gulch]

how is bb competing with forgery queues for the worst wait

and daily too

[woeful surge]

what hours queue does to a player

[lime eagle]

yah 3 shots from inside

the shotgun miss was a skill issue

i probably just shouldnt go for theos if theyre not ez pickings bc its wasting a lot of potential dmg on shields and on a target that has too high HP to easily get the kill

[drowsy isle]

tbf in that situation it was understandable

it was either the theorick or the irlok ult

[lime eagle]

where do you get this emote?

[polar gulch]

crat

[drowsy isle]

lets see

i could see how this one missed

this one too

[tight aurora]

This event's crate

[drowsy isle]

this one i dont even know where the bullet is

and this one just missed

[lime eagle]

oh word ima buy more then

bro i was gonna buy shares but the discount code lasts 1 day??????? ok

[lime eagle]

wish i didnt run a potato so i could record the outrageous targetting i just experienced

i had to log off for my own peace

not worth queueing 40 mins to tryhard a public minigame

[limpid ether]

crashout

you were tom on a team with a bad LI and a hailey healing everyone so its not crazy for you to be targeted first idk

[blissful canopy]

create feedback post to change it to 1 week

its personal code anyway, cannot be sold

[lime eagle]

i bought the shares anyway its like £5 loss

[blissful canopy]

why shares? why not crates?

[lime eagle]

let ie be known i still won 😼

[lime eagle]

is it cheaper?

i wanted to buy shiny tracker rerolls as well so i just bought them in 1

[limpid ether]

tom diff, it was close tho :)

[lime eagle]

oh oops

[blissful canopy]

lmfao

💀

tell me this was the first time this happened

[lime eagle]

yuh my first time buying shares on store

[drowsy isle]

just wait for like a 40% crate discount

or however high they go

[blissful canopy]

doesn't work for festival crates

[drowsy isle]

damn?

[blissful canopy]

and for shares, I think there is only 10% or 20% off max

[drowsy isle]

yeah idk i just know ranks go up to 50%

[blissful canopy]

crates might go up to 70%, if that screenshot was real

but its only for normal crate

[lime eagle]

in 2023 i was in mexico so i bought blizzard crates but accidentally 150 bought normal crates

[blissful canopy]

tell me you messaged support to exchange them

[lime eagle]

no? i doubt they'd do a refund like that

[blissful canopy]

yes they would

its basic practice

in wynn afaik

[lime eagle]

oops [2]

[blissful canopy]

wynn support has very little limit as to what they are willing to do when asked

very forgiving stuff

[limpid ether]

got all achievements for 2025 (last ones were rikeo feeding flames and tom bullseye which i got pretty close to eachother)

i also ahve most of 2024 minus dumb whip one lol

i will forever be miffed about it cus i got it several times it was just bugged so i will forever not have "all" achievements

[polar gulch]

should've gotten it when it wasn't bugged smhm

[limpid ether]

@sand fiber how much so you can put that beautiful 2024 name there for feeding flames

[woeful apex]

my brain is actually rotting

[drowsy isle]

sih seh

[random swallow]

@sand fiber i got a game i lost with no change and yet my sr went down by 1

is the no change msg rounded
if so that sucks

If the actual number of sr is rounded before presentation lowkey id prefer just to see that, this feels disingenous

[limpid ether]

yeah "no change" just means the sr gained or lost is less then 1 meaning you still can lose sr if you get that message despite what it means

ie i went down 2 sr from 3 "no change" games

[random swallow]

at that point just round it up instead of down

[limpid ether]

at least make it so i dont lose sr entirely would be nice as well

[random swallow]

true

[limpid ether]

Blizzard Brawl Killstreak messages 0 to 100 (increments of 5):

KILLTASTIC (5)
KILLECTION AGENCY (10)
KILLDOZER (15)
SLUMDOG KILLIONARE (20)
BOB THE KILLDER (25)
KILL ISSUE (30)
MURDER ON THE DANCE FLOOR (35)
KILLBILLY (40)
SUPERKILLIAN (45)
FIFTY SHADES OF SLAY (50)
MORAL KILLEMNA (55)
DEADLY SIXTY (60)
JUST ANOTHER SLAY AT THE OFFICE (65)
THE PAIN COURSE (70)
KILL THEY OR WON'T THEY (75)
KING OF THE KILL (80)
KILLIGHTFUL (85)
THE SKY IS SLAY (90)
KNOCKED OFF KILLER (95)
ULTRAKILL (100)

ty pqche for helping :)

[random swallow]

i got racism'd 100 times

[wraith lintel]

W

[sand fiber]

i spent ages coming up with these im glad someone checked them

[wraith lintel]

no wait

[regal tendon]

Fifty shades of slay 😭

[wraith lintel]

i mean good list

[sand fiber]

almost all of these are references

[woeful apex]

whats the ultrakill referance?

[sand fiber]

good question

left as an exercise to the reader

[mystic zenith]

Kill issue is way to low.

[feral hemlock]

ultrareference

[dull dagger]

how would you even get a 100 kill streak in game

[limpid ether]

farming

[dull dagger]

i want hard mode mods, i want to play with reverse all-spin from tetrio

• mini spins are upgraded to full spins
• clearing the same line type twice is instant death

[toxic plover]

What kind of gameplay or gimmicks do people want to see from a new character next year?

[limpid ether]

garlic needs nerf first b4 we talk about that lol

[feral hemlock]

y'know what
no
every kit gets 5x health and all abilities become comically overtuned
gleamsphere fires a spread of 3 orbs which home in on targets now

[limpid ether]

nah wth

@tight aurora as soon as i said that game kicked me

lowkey why does gawrick, the class that can dmg AND heal so much (12 hp on tp to teammates and passive constantly building on yourself) have a 1.0x mult on ult that is pretty devestating in pfinder where people dont know squat and its a death sentence
i really hope not ult doesnt go up when healing with healthpacks lol

i see garlics in games always get ults so fast, maybe it should be toned down like how yahya and dr li have slower ult chargeups?

[feral hemlock]

I'll be honest I haven't seen event horizon be that devastating in a while
not that I've seen garlics in a while anyway but I don't have many memories of more than 1 person getting trapped at once this year

[limpid ether]

event horizon is good againsta noobs since they never learn to stay out of LOS
its ok against experienced players since it forces them to the edges of the point where ppl can whack em

esp since how long the windup is its a pretty annoying (go here for 5 seconds) type shit like its wario ware if you know what i mean

[feral hemlock]

HIDE!

sounds of black hole windup

[limpid ether]

basically

its annoying

esp with how often it happens i feel

its a powerful ult on noobs and an annoyance on high level play (it can still catch you off guard if sneaky spots are used, or used with other ults)

like u can just ignore if ppl are sucked in and chuck a 30 dmg sphere into ppl hiding

i feel like it should be 0.8-0.9x like yahya or dr li

feels fairer

[feral hemlock]

I've vaguely wondered what would happen if you used. untraditional spots for black hole to like
specifically grab people that already sit on the edge

(tom)

[limpid ether]

cus gawrick can dish out dmg like other dps's to keep ult charge up and heal so its a bit faster
granted if the hypothical suggested changes by me of nerfing dmg/buffing healing on rmb plus nerfing ws happen, nerfing ult gain might be overkill

[grave umbra]

jusst being able tto spam black hole so much means generlaly itll kill at least like one fella every game and idk hjow i feel abotj that

[limpid ether]

wdym

[limpid ether]

yeah it charges so fast

its 1.0x

[grave umbra]

yah

[limpid ether]

i wish there were health packs in sandbox i wanna test if those add ult charge

cus its healing that gives ult charge too right

thats healing on yourself

[grave umbra]

like if u use it during another ult when epople arent paying attwention it can catch people off guard and also it is reallyh devasting so u have to respect it and then u end up in predictable spots and get 30 dmg nuked

[limpid ether]

idk i dont think it needs 1.0x when gawrick can charge it so fast

ykw jackie are you on

i wanna sandbox test

how much Post-Euclidean contributes to ult if anything

if the passive healing does i think straight up there is no way to argue for the 1.0x to stay since its basically a mult lol

[grave umbra]

i can get on sure

goign soon tho prob

[limpid ether]

its ok i can kidnap someone else probably

i just need to take dmg

[grave umbra]

tell them if they dont join u ban theem am i genius?

[limpid ether]

lol

[toxic plover]

Is Gawrick really that oppressive?

[limpid ether]

a good one yeah

no one can catch them

and they can go get healthpacks basically instantly if dmged

also i think the passive is bugged

Continuous sprinting builds up additional speed and healing over 9s, but drains rapidly if stopped. This effect is also applied to allies within 4 blocks.

Healing: 0.2 to 1 (per second)
Effect: 40% to 60% Walk Speed

thoes are the stats right

[feral hemlock]

believe so

[limpid ether]

the max walk speed of 60% you get is like

applied almost instantly as soon as you start sprinting

the blocks per second of this 7.86 bps

[grave umbra]

after liek 6 r 7 seconds of sprinting i seee liek a noticeable fov change but it feels the same beforfe tha

[limpid ether]

not even a second of sprinting from 0 i get to this point, and it never goes higher, so im assuming its the upper limit

despite what the passive tooltip says, "Continuous sprinting builds up additional speed and healing over 9s,"

oh wiat no your right jackie

i can go to 8.98 bps

anyways you only get the healing when the passive is ramping up or down

but when its maxed it stops working

[grave umbra]

i guess the wording didnt realy say it heals after the speedup happens e all just assuem

[limpid ether]

idk it should be reworded if so

[grave umbra]

yeah

pob shooudl jist be reeworded eor fixrd or sdmeotninfg

[limpid ether]

tbf its more balanced like this but this feels unintentional

im just wondering why it suddenly goes to what im presuming its 50% ws then to 60% only after 9 seconds

it feels like such a sudden jump

[grave umbra]

ayh

[limpid ether]

like does it start at 40% and immediatly go to 50%

[grave umbra]

soeoen can try it in an actual game

[limpid ether]

ie why i only can see really only two bps values when testing

[grave umbra]

or u can try queueing rn and se if itll queu before i have to go frfr

[limpid ether]

its ok ty jackie balls

this is valuable regardless we found a bug and prob likeanother one too

@tight aurora can you confirm these findings when your not busy

[tight aurora]

yy yy

[limpid ether]

we think passive is bugged

ie it only activates when ramping up or down

the healing

walk speed prob works

it also is maybe instantly applying the 50% speed bonus then after 9 seconds goes to 60%

edit: it prob is just starting at 40% speed then after 9 seconds jjumps straight to 60%

instead of 40% --> 4.5~ seconds to 50% --> 4.5~ seconds to 60%

[limpid ether]

u can test this in sandbox rn if u are dmged

[tight aurora]

skipping process for 40%?

[limpid ether]

yes

ok i have a

blocks per second wynntils custom function right

[tight aurora]

ig it's up to you yy no wynntils user :(

[limpid ether]

as soon as i sprint it goes to 7.86bps, after 9 seconds it goes to the cap of 8.98 bps

there is no between value between those two numbers

and it always goes to 7.86 bps

[limpid ether]

do u wanna hop in sandbox so i can show you the healing one

unless u queue and notice it yourself

[tight aurora]

I can hop on
but my brain is not big enough to comprehend very small number difference

[limpid ether]

ok

[tight aurora]

let me join yours

[limpid ether]

now that ithink about it, its probably applying 40% speed then going to 60% speed straight up after 9 seconds

no inebtween at all

dr li still gives 25 overhealth lol

@grave umbra

id ping sock but idk if they want 2-3 bug report pings lmao

plus gawrick bug being fixed if it was not intended to cap would be a huge buff and idk if ppl need that lol

[ornate fulcrum]

why can you disguise inside blizzard brawl

or is it only sandbox

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only sandbox

its pretty silly

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gnome army

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evil gnome

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Incrdibk

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mr incredible

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enderclaw learnt how to take inappropriate pics from me

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🤨

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...anyway
Does this mean Gawrick glitch is kept for both years

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evil

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wdym both years

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the devilish removed screenshot

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inappropiate!

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bb 2024

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the same bugs? prob so

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wynned

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has adding an assists stat been considered