OFFICIAL Blizzard Brawl 2025 feedback thread

[drowsy isle]

sometimes you dont catch an ally in it

[sand fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/volvo-xc60-top-gear-4x4-gif-20594513

[drowsy isle]

could do with less burst heals but it gets a linger in exchange

[delicate kelp]

hailey is fine

a good hailey is already annoying enough

[drowsy isle]

like deploy a little zone with same duration as current invuln

[sand fiber]

i like hailey ult

[drowsy isle]

if ur inside ur invuln

[delicate kelp]

hell no

[drowsy isle]

the invuln would be same dura

[sand fiber]

its the first ult i programmed so i have a sweet spot for it

[drowsy isle]

if anything its easier to counterplay cause u can grab ppl out

[drowsy isle]

fair enough

[delicate kelp]

have had a lot of games where the ult missed their teammate and I killed them because of it

[drowsy isle]

also sock theres this weird interaction with irlok vs invuln players

[ornate fulcrum]

ok the nerfs are very noticeable

[drowsy isle]

its kinda like the harmony on ult bug

[delicate kelp]

good

[drowsy isle]

sometimes when attacking an invuln player with m1

you get max harmony

[delicate kelp]

now lock in theorick

new best class

[grave umbra]

Js this real or fak

[drowsy isle]

truke

(li still owns theorick)

or maybe its just cause spellsniffer cant hit the javelin on crushing blow

[grave umbra]

Theo can do that ywah

[delicate kelp]

my bad I haven't played theorick for a year 😭

[sand fiber]

it used to really irk me that people called him dr li for some reason

[grave umbra]

20 dmg and distance is enough t force out of mech unlwss the theo or li is dum

[grave umbra]

Yeah hes dr backshots

[drowsy isle]

dr legendary island

[sand fiber]

truke

[delicate kelp]

dr li gaming

[drowsy isle]

wait u should make a dr le tank

consume 1 le to take -1 damage

[sand fiber]

dr liquid emeralds

[drowsy isle]

infinitely stacks

[sand fiber]

brand new emerald sink

[drowsy isle]

economy is saved

[delicate kelp]

looks like something I would throw le into

[drowsy isle]

but yeah sock pig puck tech isnt fixed

[sand fiber]

what in the everloving FUCK

is pig puck

being used for in this game

[grave umbra]

True

[delicate kelp]

truly a doomish moment

[drowsy isle]

put it on enemy health pack

[sand fiber]

oh my god im going to end it all

[drowsy isle]

and they half to walk up to it to see how much it has

[delicate kelp]

no way you do that

[drowsy isle]

dr backshots

[grave umbra]

The brainrot os real

[delicate kelp]

ur EVIL

[drowsy isle]

hes tramatized

[grave umbra]

Your model is making that lokk like it says pig fuck

[delicate kelp]

he has seen it all

[grave umbra]

Or the heli icon is

[drowsy isle]

those who puck the pig

but also the more impactful ones

[ornate fulcrum]

i will never hit yahya's ult

[drowsy isle]

you can spawn the reindeer and snowman

and you can mythic trinkets in advance

[delicate kelp]

aim

[drowsy isle]

and you can spawn the parrot

theorick tech

flood the bubble with summons

[ornate fulcrum]

i literally aimed at 3 players and they all sidestepped

[drowsy isle]

its hitscan bro

how are they sidestepping

[delicate kelp]

im not really having that issue

[ornate fulcrum]

its a shitty hitscan

[sand fiber]

at least these summons dont get in the way of hits

[drowsy isle]

fair enough

sock has deemed it tournament legal

[sand fiber]

lies

[drowsy isle]

sadly u can only place one pig puck at once

[delicate kelp]

how many clips did you receive so far?

[drowsy isle]

omw to grind the parkour for 2 hours just to place 64 pig pucks across mid

[sand fiber]

only 3 responses thusfar

[delicate kelp]

wtf

[alpine siren]

top 3 secured

clip it and ship it ,contest over

[drowsy isle]

luuk guess who one of the clips contains

[ornate fulcrum]

win by default lol

[delicate kelp]

ITS AI

[drowsy isle]

add the sora watermark

reverse slander technique

[grave umbra]

I neesd to ad more clips bit i havent been able tp ge on and queues hae sucked balls

[delicate kelp]

🎆 them

[grave umbra]

I think i forog to ad the yahya falling off clip

[drowsy isle]

song that plays when you might be shitting

[grave umbra]

Mobike buggin cant hear

[ornate fulcrum]

im getting destroyed by kapaa for 2 games alr

[delicate kelp]

what class you playing

[drowsy isle]

hey i know that guy

[ornate fulcrum]

yahya then tom

[delicate kelp]

I see the issue

[drowsy isle]

tom vs irlok point and laugh

[delicate kelp]

you need to switch to theorick

[drowsy isle]

or li

or garwick

[delicate kelp]

Theorick.

[drowsy isle]

or irlok

or yahya

yahya has a pretty decent matchup vs irlok

[delicate kelp]

when is lari class coming

[drowsy isle]

bait the kick

[drowsy isle]

sadly shes in heroes

😔

[sand fiber]

does not necessarily preclude from adding

[drowsy isle]

ok but ur not gonna do that right

actually what would she do

she has earth tremors

so old li ult

[grave umbra]

?????

[delicate kelp]

would be a great new class for 2026

[sand fiber]

we'll see

[delicate kelp]

from last year blizzy brawl 😂

[sand fiber]

adding a new class is a fair workload

[delicate kelp]

but def worth it

[drowsy isle]

just give her the monster spells ong

[sand fiber]

it's a fair workload which falls to me, I should add

[drowsy isle]

and 225k health

and call it a day

[sand fiber]

i may or may not have the free time necessary to code it next year

[drowsy isle]

fruma 2

[delicate kelp]

but we would all appreciate it a lot

[drowsy isle]

😔

[ornate fulcrum]

maybe he's just too goated

[sand fiber]

we'll see how i feel next year

i usually get quite burnt out after the first few weeks of bbrawl

[delicate kelp]

switch to theorick!!!

[feral hemlock]

herbert

[drowsy isle]

is he getting hailey pocketed

or are u a bum

[delicate kelp]

burger

🍔

[drowsy isle]

bumger

[ornate fulcrum]

they do have a hailey

also i missed tom's ult 2 times i suck at ulting maybe its just me

[delicate kelp]

how many times do I have to repeat it, switch to theorick and the wins will come flowing your way

🤭

https://tenor.com/view/wynncraft-theorick-twain-minecraft-meme-gif-21782692

[grave umbra]

Me when i lie

[delicate kelp]

me never lie 🫡

[ornate fulcrum]

nvm we win since it was 3v2

[drowsy isle]

oh bruh

You didn't mention it was a 3v2

[delicate kelp]

that just makes me sad

[ornate fulcrum]

its 3v3 but one of them was using a dagger for half the match

[grave umbra]

1 10

[delicate kelp]

he has had enough, lets all pray for them 🙏

[ornate fulcrum]

i suck at the game very badly

[grave umbra]

I js left a 2v3 game to make it a fisr even 2v2

And then i lost

🔥

[sand fiber]

(world kills happen when you /kill or fall off the map without being hit by someone in the last 3(?) seconds)

[drowsy isle]

was it you

[ornate fulcrum]

it was one of them

[drowsy isle]

by the looks of the stats it's you

[grave umbra]

Why we being tozic to the gost rpi rpie

[delicate kelp]

be nice

[ornate fulcrum]

im getting flamed from my lack of skill

[drowsy isle]

it's called constructive criticism

[ornate fulcrum]

doomish youre better than this

[drowsy isle]

well yeah ik I am

[delicate kelp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1162564880583381133/1301423238840061952/watermark.gif

[drowsy isle]

ok but fr what are u struggling with

[ornate fulcrum]

what are we in, in some sort of constructive feeedback channel???

[drowsy isle]

is it aim or gamesense

[drowsy isle]

title card

[ornate fulcrum]

aim

[drowsy isle]

is it in all games or just this

[delicate kelp]

then play a class where you have to aim less

[ornate fulcrum]

im like bottom 1% players

[delicate kelp]

like theorick

[drowsy isle]

Theo has to aim like the most besides ton what u smoking

[delicate kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cigar-smoking-smoking-cat-cat-is-smoking-cigar-gif-8453696328432591931

[ornate fulcrum]

i alr ragequitted the game and will probably try it again in 1 week its fine

[drowsy isle]

ai watermark point and laugh

[drowsy isle]

this is not how u fix the problems

[delicate kelp]

the ai watermark is ai

[drowsy isle]

u gotta lock in

at least go practice range and try to consistently hit 1 block

[ornate fulcrum]

2 am locking in is not it

[drowsy isle]

while moving and stuff

[delicate kelp]

get some coffee and go back to work

lock in

[drowsy isle]

or go tutorial unironically and just repeat the training dummy segment

[delicate kelp]

you might win another match

[grave umbra]

Lock in for the seasonal minigame

🤯

[drowsy isle]

yeah only relevant ranked system in wynn

[ornate fulcrum]

sorry give me back btb in that game i get carried more

[drowsy isle]

who cares about warring

[grave umbra]

Bring back backshots tot he beyod

[delicate kelp]

honestly

[ornate fulcrum]

funny thing is warring is 10 times easier than blizzard brawl unironically

[drowsy isle]

slain by sunlight reference

[delicate kelp]

I like bb more than btb

[drowsy isle]

those who eco

[grave umbra]

Yeah im toucbing yiu infapeiotatlley now

[drowsy isle]

highkey I like heroes too

very formulaic and u get to hate on ppl

[ornate fulcrum]

i never played the hero minigame i have 0 opinions on it

[delicate kelp]

whats your favo hero

[drowsy isle]

and u don't gotta rely on teammates

[delicate kelp]

mine is batman

[grave umbra]

Idk bb queues r js super goofy halfwy theubthe event lol

[drowsy isle]

I don't play for hero

[ornate fulcrum]

i heard its like prof but pvp

[grave umbra]

I might also js be dumb tho

[drowsy isle]

I play for max perks and back shot the hero

[delicate kelp]

true... wished more people would play this event

[drowsy isle]

but I think tisuan was the strongest one

that or the acro guy

[delicate kelp]

oh its 2am

I uhhh... am going to bed

[sand fiber]

keep the flame wars out of my thread please

[delicate kelp]

🔥

FIRE

[grave umbra]

Thst one game i aas scteaming about yaoi with throwmusket was kind of peak cant even lie

But in pfinder irs been so bad past few days i was ableto get on

[drowsy isle]

finals week of doom and despair

[feral hemlock]

sock lawnmower what is the reasoning for making guided missile cause self damage and make me catapult off the map twICE

[ornate fulcrum]

sockmower can you give me less rating i dont want to get carried into the upperanks ill have no fun and get called account buyer and boosted player 🥺 (/j)

[drowsy isle]

hit shift to get off the missile

[grave umbra]

I forgor non quarter sydt wasnt fone yet

[grave umbra]

Its peaj

[drowsy isle]

why does my double tap use eyebrow raise

Even tho fire is most used

smh

[grave umbra]

I love launching myself to 2nd pt when mising ult on mid

[grave umbra]

Specificsllt the furthermost roof of 2nd pt its so funny

[sand fiber]

it's meant to encourage early dismounting which serves three purposes; locking your missile trajectory so opponents have a bit more time to react; pushing you slightly further away from the action so you can't instantly tank shots; and also discourage aiming straight down for a free 20dmg aoe with no reaction time

[drowsy isle]

mfw shift into m2

[sand fiber]

which uses resources

[drowsy isle]

so does ur ult

[sand fiber]

...yea?

[drowsy isle]

ult meter is in of itself a resource

[grave umbra]

Wha dih brk mean by this
R u complai abt no reaction time fot m2 on swaping mech?

[drowsy isle]

eh

kinda cuz my teammates don't know about it

and get melted

very sad

[grave umbra]

Teamate diffed 😔

[feral hemlock]

spending an ultimate on a 20 damage explosion centered and hitting you somehow feels like a poor trade

[drowsy isle]

well the idea is that u don't hit urself

go up and go down

if u aim straight down after going up, it auto dismounts

[ornate fulcrum]

if you dont hit yourself it becomes a better trade

[grave umbra]

The self dmg is fine it usuallt feels like a skkll issue when i hit myself

[sand fiber]

yeah

[feral hemlock]

go my hellfire module

[sand fiber]

anyway I've said my reasoning

[drowsy isle]

but u need to be like at least 8 blocks up or smth to auto discoumt

[sand fiber]

I am going to read my book and go to bed

[drowsy isle]

tbh mech ult is imma be fr

kinda worse than reg

[grave umbra]

It is super funny when u kill yourself with self dmf tho

[sand fiber]

been a looong day

[drowsy isle]

gn

[grave umbra]

Situational ryp shi

Idk mech ult is kind of hard to use if u r losing

Unless u are comin back from dying

[drowsy isle]

it's nice there ye

[grave umbra]

Thsts like the only main complaint i have

[delicate kelp]

gn pookie

[grave umbra]

Potentiak 45 dmg for being off pt for 30s and not recharting mech integrity unles u do the unreloable tech of getting yobmech shredded as u enter the mech is a little sus

[ornate fulcrum]

i picked dr legendary once and immediately switched i have no idea what it does and each of my dr li opponents does things i have no idea what they are

[grave umbra]

Idk i am biased so i could see a buf/nothij changing eithe way

[drowsy isle]

did u read the kit legit question

it's a long kit

[ornate fulcrum]

its a long kit i know he has 2 modes and they do different things

[grave umbra]

Last year i only sthck with li cuz someone was complaining thst it was too hard to lern

And i was like man this guy must be dumb i woud win

[ornate fulcrum]

thats everything i understood so

[drowsy isle]

human mode regens mech hp up to 45, m2 for 4x 1 dmg 1x 4dmg (last beam), hitting last beam restored fuel

human mode m1 can be used if helicopter on ur screen is lit up

[grave umbra]

Ans then spent ljke 2 games fumbling around and onlt leaarned how heli charged like 20 gmes later lol

[drowsy isle]

it gets fuel from landing the last m2 hit

[ornate fulcrum]

dr li sounds like a driving a car

[drowsy isle]

mech form is 30% slowed but all attacks slow enemies 30%

m1 to rise up and slam down for 12 dmg

m2 to fire very slow rocket

16 dmg direct 8 dmg aoe

[grave umbra]

Ts guu js reading the kit

[drowsy isle]

nah I'm eating dinner rn

[feral hemlock]

you memorize it after a little while

[drowsy isle]

human ult fires rocket up from ur cursor

[grave umbra]

I too have memorised the kit

Cu i stupid

[drowsy isle]

after it contacts a roof or x distance it starts launching fireworks down

either 8 or 12 dmg per

[feral hemlock]

10

[drowsy isle]

if u do it in a place with small roof, anyone who walks into it gets atomized

cuz all rockets are focused on one spot

[random swallow]

carpet bomb

[drowsy isle]

mech ult u should aim horizontal or up before usijg

puts u on a rocket

hit shift or slam into surface to explode

dmg ramps from 25 to 45

if u slam into surface u take the damage as self damage

so shift to dismount

anything else u don't know @ornate fulcrum

[ornate fulcrum]

yeah, why the fuck people play this

this is just kez from dota 2

[drowsy isle]

Cuz immense burst damage

[grave umbra]

Cux helicopta helucopts

[drowsy isle]

mech in someone's face and hit ur m2 and they take 24 damage

[ornate fulcrum]

tank btw

[drowsy isle]

or slam m2 m2 for 60 dmg combo

Oh forgot to mention

[grave umbra]

Uou are not dojng fukl smg on anyone wirh two braincells

Hoghkey

[drowsy isle]

When he mechs, allies in 5 blocks get 15 overhealth

[ornate fulcrum]

theres the tanking part

[grave umbra]

Unless they r nezt to a wall cuz they r slowed or stupi

[drowsy isle]

well he also tanks by being y'know

bulky and drawing aggro

u can't afford to ignore an li in mech form

cause he can spam 24/8 dmg aoe projectiles

[grave umbra]

The tank part is using yo msch integrity overheaalth and reginnign thst slowly

[drowsy isle]

whenever u can, demech to let it regen

don't sit in mech

as for counterplay

be aware of when he has ult to not go under roofs

mid point roof is fine it's high enough

but like the little wooden structures on points b and d

[ornate fulcrum]

do the stairs in mid point count as roof

[drowsy isle]

at the bottom yes

on the stairs is fine

the big places are points b and d to the healthpack

but also you don't want to go close quarters in general

cause if he mechs and starts crushing blow when ur in a room with him

he's gonna plow u

general counterplay is try to stay in open ground and be at least 4 blocks away

also when he mechs he makes a sound

like a horn

also also rippi

do u know how overhealth works

[ornate fulcrum]

it decays over time and isnt part of health

[grave umbra]

U can do the human ult tech in mid between pillars and in the hp pack hallways

[drowsy isle]

Important part is that it can absord all overflow

so if u have 1 overhealth

u can tank a tom ult

and take 1 dmg

[ornate fulcrum]

oh so you get to ignore 60 damage tom nuke

[drowsy isle]

yeah

[grave umbra]

Lik if u take a 60 smg tom ult or smth with overhealth u onlt lose your mech yea

[drowsy isle]

highkey should i make a blizzy guide at this point

[ornate fulcrum]

it does everything all at the same time

[drowsy isle]

it wouldnt take too long

[ornate fulcrum]

15 days left of the event!

[drowsy isle]

what he lacks is good range

his human form is a pepper

1 1 1 1 4

mech form has no range

note that what they might do is hover booster to you and then slam you

just be aware of when the hover ends to use abilities to disengage

[grave umbra]

U can end hover early by swapping

[drowsy isle]

new tech

[grave umbra]

Old tech

[drowsy isle]

middle age tech

[grave umbra]

Tech discocerable by a 3 year old playing li

[drowsy isle]

well yeah cause why else would u swap off wep

clueless

tldr

play like 5 blocks away from him

and dont go in close quarters unless ur really healthy

[grave umbra]

Tdlr dont feed dont get touched by li and play anything but hailey cuz basicallt everything has a defent enough counter for him

[feral hemlock]

mech exploding when within social distance of yahya

[ornate fulcrum]

sounds like a nightmare to play against ngl, not only can i not aim at players in a 2 dimensional playing field i have to deal with a hovering burst character that tanks ults

[drowsy isle]

dont bother shooting when hes hovering unless ur tom and hes low

also remember hes 30% slowed in mech form

[grave umbra]

Also bigger hitbox in mech forn

[feral hemlock]

from experience
bursting the mech down is good
as they'll usually be caught out in the open since the human form favors being in long range

[drowsy isle]

yeah if ur playing like

irlok

[ornate fulcrum]

thats good i can get aim compensation

[feral hemlock]

tom Ruins My Day!

[drowsy isle]

wait till he mechs to shred it instantly with max harmony

also also dont rely on tom m2 for damage its so weird

you can point blank someone standing still and do 10 damage

m2 reserved for movement

[ornate fulcrum]

i only use it to get up ledges

[grave umbra]

Yeah if u hust spam m1 whenhes in hisbmech he will eithe lose it or be forced to demech

[ornate fulcrum]

problem is i miss 6 shots on every clip

[grave umbra]

U coukd m2 to dodge slam if u r caufht ofd guard by it but ifnu see him doing it u fan js shred him when hes doing the slm

[drowsy isle]

if u want u can get a crosshair overlay

i run one for most stuff cause wynn crosshair is so weird

its like 2 transparent tiny lines

[grave umbra]

Aijnno way

[drowsy isle]

that go purely horizontal

[ornate fulcrum]

may help with my general aiming problem since i highkey suck at all fps games ever

[grave umbra]

Also ho long dos tom tske to reload i havent botjerd to tet

[drowsy isle]

depends on how many bullets

[grave umbra]

O wow

How long with no bullets

Like 3s?

[drowsy isle]

ok 3.5s ish

note that regardless of how many bullets u reload

theres always the little click at the end

[feral hemlock]

can never count how many bullets a tom has used so I have to rely on when they start to run around a corner

[drowsy isle]

wait nvm the click at the end is cosmetic

actually hm

it might not be

cause reload with max ammo isnt instant

well its only worth counting bullets when ur in melee

not like 'oh hes fired 8 bullets time to peak the corner'

[ornate fulcrum]

check when the tom drops their weapon

[drowsy isle]

more like 'oh hes fired 8 bullets in melee time to run in a straight line'

[grave umbra]

I like half count bullets i js do it on vibe half the time

[drowsy isle]

which is how you reload with max ammo

its not instant

thing u should probably always do is come out of spawn with 2 backwards facing m2's

and reload as soon as u fire the second m2

[ornate fulcrum]

ill just pack it up i think im too bad at blizzard brawl and should stick with easier content such as raids and wars

[drowsy isle]

unless they have like an irlok or theorick

[grave umbra]

I believe u would win twin

[drowsy isle]

i mean u did choose to pick to play the like

one guy who needs u to aim

the most

[grave umbra]

Unless u are too lazy to lern for aa temprary game which is fair and valid

[drowsy isle]

i mean the skills translate to other games

think of this as training wheels

[ornate fulcrum]

problem is i suck at all fps games, and hero shooters too

[grave umbra]

On my dog WE(YES WE) are noy playing any other fps

[drowsy isle]

this is a great place 2 learn

[grave umbra]

And are hopping on megido abyss instead

[drowsy isle]

hey bow duels count to a point

[feral hemlock]

smaller aside
herbert missiles explode through walls
being outside of point 1 can still get you clipped if they shoot at the barriers around the corners

[drowsy isle]

yuh

same as yahya bomb

[feral hemlock]

we love aoe effects

[grave umbra]

O yeah that shit is peak

Funny texh

[drowsy isle]

but yeah bb is not a bad place to learn fps games

well hero shooter more specifically

unironically if u wanna learn raw fps, roblox isnt a bad option

[feral hemlock]

it makes me learn I'm probably not gonna extensively play a hero shooter in the future,

[drowsy isle]

anyone who extensively plays hero shooters are miserable

look at anyone trying to climb sr in blizzard brawl

constant states of agony

hero shooters are like the number 1 way to tilt

i cant think of any game that comes close

[ornate fulcrum]

i do want to get good at them eventaully since deadlock is fun and valve-coded

[drowsy isle]

highkey if u wanna like

practice easiest

theorick prolly is best

lotsa health, u still practice aim, practice cd management, target priority

learn how to play defensively

but isnt too aim demanding

since most value comes from shielding allies

[ornate fulcrum]

i also played theorick its just that i always miss his m2

[drowsy isle]

m2 is just rough

designed to be hard to hit

if it was easy everyone would hate him

heres a thng to note

after clicking m2, the projectile doesnt instantly come out

[ornate fulcrum]

that actually makes sense

[drowsy isle]

https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/lKtY9b9diTt628hvx?invite=cr-MSx6Y1YsNDU0NzA0MTE0&v=15

u can test urself

click m1 and m2 at the same time

but flick ur mouse

[ornate fulcrum]

ill probably just use it when in melee range if i play again

[grave umbra]

Inch resstin

[ornate fulcrum]

none of my mutuals actually play blizzard brawl

[drowsy isle]

also lowkey on the previous topic of rickeo being a bit weak

reduced m2 cd might not be bad

at cost of reduced dmg

more combo potential

since most of his kit is soft cc

[drowsy isle]

alr played a post nerf yahya

its not that bad

on point b and d you struggle cause teammates are so far

13m game
yahya hailey tom
vs
theo li hailey

[drowsy isle]

tho i think this is balanced out with just how strong yahya is on point c

10 hp per stacks on teammates feels very nice if you can land it

highkey i wanna try a theo yahya core

maybe with irlok or rickeo

[robust dagger]

hailey therck combo is so sillious

[blissful canopy]

my LEVEL 1 TECH!!!! noooooooo

oh mb

(btw its more useful for me than before, I'm probably alone with this)

(way more useful, holy cow)

[grave umbra]

Erm what the frog

[blissful canopy]

(for cosmetic purposes)

[tight aurora]

nani more yahya nerf

Rickeo tier healing?

[woeful surge]

chaining allies with yahya shift is just too hard

also rely on ememies 😭

[drowsy isle]

tip

hit allies first

then go into enemies

[limpid ether]

Why would that work dont you need a heal “point” first

[drowsy isle]

the way it works for healing is that it tags everyone you hit with the shift

including yourself

[limpid ether]

Yeah so

[drowsy isle]

when the shift concludes, either manually or automatically, only then is the healing applied

[limpid ether]

U gotta hit the enemy first

[drowsy isle]

healing is not instantly applied

[limpid ether]

To get the chatge

Yeah

[drowsy isle]

so lets say

lemme get paint open

[limpid ether]

The painter

Ill wair my shift almsot over

12 min

[grave umbra]

It tracks whoever u pass thru with yahya shift and applies healing to allies u went thri adter youuur shify ends if u hit anyone wjth stacks thsts its

[drowsy isle]

yahya is the black stick figure

green is 1 ally

2 enemies

enemies have 3 and 2 stacks

when yahya hits last positon via dash

[grave umbra]

Or js thus

[drowsy isle]

it is logged as them having 5 stacks consumed

it is alos logged as you having hit 1 ally

that 1 ally and you are healed for 5 stacks

[limpid ether]

Oooh i get it now

I nrefer jackie to wxplain it since we speak the same language

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/381520882608373761/1085142421047869482/4x-1.gif

[grave umbra]

Im a genuius bro

This doomisj the thugkip alaays overclampicsting and yapping on kackie balls

[drowsy isle]

😐

how is this overcomplicating it

man these dr hater mains

[woeful surge]

nah the tip is stop playing yahya

garlic instead

[drowsy isle]

yahya heals are quite good for theo tbf

mfw the enemy theo goes from 10 to 110 hp

and my team takes 60 damage at the same time

[limpid ether]

Herb to herb communication

[woeful surge]

don’t get chained so yahya has no heal 🤯

[drowsy isle]

thats why you duo with a theo

theo forces enemies into specific locations

via barrier, spear, and ult

[woeful surge]

Surely i have teammates

[limpid ether]

Teamwork dreamwork

[woeful surge]

@sand fiber yahya shift can ignore gawrick ult pull

https://tenor.com/view/oh-the-misery-wawa-cat-oh-the-misery-everybody-wants-to-be-my-enemy-gif-25218342

[grave umbra]

Eem what the flippant

[woeful surge]

https://medal.tv/zh-Hant/games/minecraft/clips/lKxVZJXtFQq_FNK39?invite=cr-MSxsRkUsNDU5MzgwNTQ2&v=8

nvm i think thay guy died so ult did not tp him

but he can still ignore the pull before tp 🤯

https://medal.tv/zh-Hant/games/minecraft/clips/lKy2tFXRKsaK5t_sw?invite=cr-MSxaWVIsNDU5MzgwNTQ2&v=12

[drowsy isle]

https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/lKxZ75OwyciDJ3VQn?invite=cr-MSxWS1gsNDU0NzA0MTE0

would be funny if it reaches below it

[tight aurora]

he's actually dodging

we're just not skilled enough to catch it with our eyes

[tight aurora]

Llevigar Farm defense is very low

[woeful surge]

looks useful if it hits below it ya

[delicate kelp]

wtf

Never seen that happen before

[tight aurora]

another hour queue

[delicate kelp]

ur not alone...

[polar gulch]

queue can't be real

i have to hop on hptixle smash at this rate

[polar gulch]

I'm only 50 minutes in

[woeful surge]

im Jealous of ppl who can do EU pf

[drowsy isle]

why don't u guys just party each other and manual 4 queue

[woeful surge]

Without 400ms

[grave umbra]

Thisis a sign to play megido abyss instead of queuing

[tight aurora]

hellish game everytime

[drowsy isle]

would you rather infinite games, but hellish games

or hellish games, but no games

[tight aurora]

wtf

[delicate kelp]

yeah ima hop off

[tight aurora]

hell is inevitable

see you in other timezone

oh wait annie day coming

Make sure to claim annie party leader and kidnap people into bb after that

[toxic plover]

Is Theorick good now?

[drowsy isle]

prolly

[feral hemlock]

what!! when!!

[random swallow]

@sand fiber everyone on the other team left
and yet i get -1

help

[sand fiber]

alas

my condolences

[lucid latch]

Should’ve thought of that before being goated

[random swallow]

Fix this please

:{

[random swallow]

dawg

[lucid latch]

Ruff crowd, huh

[limpid ether]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-box-surprise-cats-gif-10064777

[random swallow]

Would it be possible to have a way to buy gifts for the wynnterfair with shards

doesnt have to be 1:1 i would just like to collect a reindeer army without numbing my brain in parkour for 2 hours

[past mortar]

arf you kidding me

[lucid latch]

Dawg fr 😭

[random swallow]

hello sockmower is sr rounded

i got a -1 and i went down from 1083 -> 1081

and dont say its lag from previous game cause previous games were a +2 and a no change </3

[crystal thicket]

gawrick main tax

[unborn meadow]

It likely only displays a single digit

[random swallow]

WHY IS SR A DECIMAL>?>>>

[limpid ether]

There tax goes to ME

Dr l tax break

[sand fiber]

yeah

your SR is internally represented as two decimals

which when combined go through an algorithm to get your display rating

[tight aurora]

Do you guys ever kidnap detlas idlers (who accept party without thinking) just to begin the game asap + farm ratings from them

[polar gulch]

me as the party leader omw to start a bb game 10 seconds before annie starts

[delicate kelp]

no wonder you got high rating 🤔

[blissful canopy]

are they auto accepting it with wynntils, and afk, or they are actually playing it through?

[random swallow]

That’s a good idea

[drowsy isle]

wouldn't it be better to advertise it in pfinder

join for cool music for 2 minutes

then everyone benefits

[random swallow]

I kidnapped people after anni

[drowsy isle]

wallah

[ornate knot]

#RemoveGarwick

[woeful surge]

Millions must play gawrick theo hailey team

[regal tendon]

@sand fiber yesterday my friend was scrolling twitter and came across a overwatch video and they played the mercy song and then i started singing along but with the blizzy brawl version (ive never played overwatch in my life and barely played marvel rivals) and another friend in that vc said "dorrie how the fuck do you know this song so well" and i said "so you see, theres overwatch in Wynncraft. And theres a parody of this song there." And then he said "ight im gonna play wynn now how do i join?"

Is this the best introduction to wynn ever

[sand fiber]

that's so based

[grave umbra]

Peak

My brother saaq i was playong ovetwatch in wynncraft and was like why is my brother stupid overwatch is free 😭

Lowkey he not wrong

[lucid latch]

“Nerf Yahya”

[regal tendon]

Ok but overwatch is owned by ..... Bad company

And probably requires a good pc to play, almost anyone can play Wynncraft cause its on mc

Even if you have a potato

[grave umbra]

idt overwach is that intensive according to my freinds but i have also never played itt so 🤯

[regal tendon]

Me neither but it looks a lot more so than mc ever would be

Also its 50gb

MC is like.. 1

[grave umbra]

i should start fixing my sleep scheddle i highkey woke p at 2 pm and nothing is qeeing now

[regal tendon]

Its ok i woke up at 5:22pm

Today

[ornate fulcrum]

60 gb slop vs 2 gb goat

[robust dagger]

when are we getting a yahya cover

[regal tendon]

get @crisp yacht on this

[grave umbra]

they need a tuutorial headass 😭

[grave umbra]

@steel rain those who spam rmb

[drowsy isle]

also at the same time maybe add smth so that people have to confirm to enter a game

those who kidnap players into games for sr farm

[steel rain]

shut up

I’m a doctor legendary player

[grave umbra]

its ok twinonmen i blame our other teamate

[drowsy isle]

(imma be so fr ur tom was better than ur garwick)

[steel rain]

Nah I’m to blame

[drowsy isle]

this guy knows whats up

[grave umbra]

i went 18 5 highkey iw as not 100% locked in with the aim

first game omn typ shi

[steel rain]

My kd was pure booty cheeks that game

[drowsy isle]

oh polls dont show who voted what?

hm

oh well

[grave umbra]

they do

[drowsy isle]

anonymity is good

[grave umbra]

this guy dumb bnruh

[drowsy isle]

oh so im a bum

gg

[steel rain]

mfer why isnt game queuing

[drowsy isle]

tf

im not seeing that

[grave umbra]

u have to hover over iy

[drowsy isle]

oh there it is

hover the tiny ass numbers

goofy

[grave umbra]

@doomishthethugkip megido abyss bc no queue?

[drowsy isle]

its like 2am

i am fried

[grave umbra]

gg

[drowsy isle]

after bb tho remind me to do megido

[steel rain]

is thin ice any good

[grave umbra]

imma play i trn cuz this shit not queueing

thin ice is spleef

[steel rain]

ok thats what i thought

[drowsy isle]

spleef but 1/5th are ice blocks

wait no

its tnt run

innit

[limpid ether]

another garlic nerf?

how so

[drowsy isle]

mfw 44 damage execute that cant be positioned around

cause perma 40-60 ws + teleporter

and it splashes

[steel rain]

bro garwick is so busted if someone good is playing him

[drowsy isle]

me personally i think maybe just average out the damage and the heals

that or just 2/3 the damage

[limpid ether]

garlics main strength is mobility to hog health packs

[drowsy isle]

also ability to passively charge a 3 harmony irlok kick with aoe

minus kb

• projectile

• heals

[limpid ether]

im starting to practice on li to get health packs more often to just improve my survialbility and counter em

it makes them flounder a bit

either forcing them into a bad place or getting them to go to a further hp pack = control on point

[drowsy isle]

tbf li is just a really good option against garwick

second best

first is prolly theo

[limpid ether]

i mean yeah garlic can use portal tp to gain massive idstance in a short amount of time

idk if garlic needs another one cus in a well versed team u can counter ult easily

and dr li theo or tom can pepper em down

[drowsy isle]

thing is pfinder is not well versed team

[limpid ether]

well li is like that too

pfinder love sto group up

and let me slam mech rmb combo

[drowsy isle]

li is good against well versed teams too

[limpid ether]

to nuke em all

[grave umbra]

this is treu i try doing this as wel

like if i am full hp coming back onto point i take the health pack 😈

[limpid ether]

real

yeah i steal it a lot

[drowsy isle]

i still think its a bit wacky that garwick can just fling aoe 32 dmg beams of death

half a tom ult minus wallbang every like

4s

[limpid ether]

well the issue is aiming

and timing

what are stats again

ngl i like gawrick idea of a support psuedo glass cannon

running around n shit

mosquito

just that mobiltiy might add to much survialbility with how easy they can get to any health pack on map and get back to point

thats the only thing i would consider for a nerf otherwise we just go to pre-buff garlic and how bad they were

ie nerfing dmg or chargin or shit

[drowsy isle]

of the projectile move speed?

[limpid ether]

everything

[drowsy isle]

or for the dmg/heals

[limpid ether]

both

u can maybe nerf dmg and leav healing

cus garlic healing spheres are really nice sometimes

combined with passive

plane hop too

[drowsy isle]

7.5s dmg per s, heals are half that

projectile speed I don't have exact but it's faster than Theo snowflake I believe

I do thing garwick could do with more team heals if dmg is to be nerfed

like yeah he's designed to be able to heal teammates with the passive

(0.2 to 1 heals per second ramping with sprint time)

but radius is pretty smol and garwick doesn't play that close to team

would rather be further to get a good pierce angle

so maybe buff the m2 heals a bit

[limpid ether]

Does it pierce?

[drowsy isle]

yep

[limpid ether]

Oh wtf

Never knew

[drowsy isle]

it should do that tbf cause black hole self synergy

[limpid ether]

So ir doesn’t?

🤨

[drowsy isle]

no as in

[limpid ether]

Sounds like testing is beeded

[drowsy isle]

it rightfully pierces

[limpid ether]

Ah

[drowsy isle]

Don't nerf by removing pierce

maybe like increase the gleam sphere healing hitbox in exchange for nerfing it's dmg

on paper avg like 3.75 heals a second isn't bad

but why would you heal when you can damage

and hitbox skinny enough that you wouldn't reliably be able to heal and damage with it

(also the projectile size stays the same no matter the charge/particle cloud size)

but said projectile is like the tom hinder in size minus bullet drop

so it's not incredibly hard to land

[limpid ether]

Mmh

Wouldnt mind more shifting of suppoet to dps kinda like what yahya got

So they don’t box out poor rikeo

[drowsy isle]

rickeo is a bit cooked rn

unironically I think give him 80 hp

[limpid ether]

(They also need like a rmb buff and whip speed buff)

[drowsy isle]

he's a brawler

[limpid ether]

Then i think there good

Mmmmh maybe

Do they still get

[drowsy isle]

why's he 70 hp like tom

[limpid ether]

Overhealth

From passie

Passive

[wraith lintel]

give rickeo a charge attack for realistic fire mechanics

[drowsy isle]

I don't think he ever got overhealth

[limpid ether]

I swear they did

[drowsy isle]

as long as I could remember it was flat heals

[limpid ether]

Or if it was before the nerfs when they were stupid

I just dont like how clunky the whip is

[drowsy isle]

in theory his sustain is fine but like

he doesn't live long enough to get into melee

[limpid ether]

Maybe i need more practice but it sucks like lmb does

[drowsy isle]

cause he has a pretty slow movement ability and 70 hp

[limpid ether]

True

yeah u gotta charge it

Insta shift is nice tho

[drowsy isle]

surely he doesn't get speared every time he charges shift

also he can't wasd in shift so like

go behind a wall

also also it sometimes passes through enemies with no dmg cus wynn lag

:(

if charged

insta shift usually doesn't do that at least

[limpid ether]

Ngl ult needs love too

Its just

A big fireball you use once

Its so hard to bounce

You only use it for face

[drowsy isle]

I think sock said some stuff bout changing it

[limpid ether]

Rikeo buff/rework can go so many different ways

[drowsy isle]

Apparently it was originally gonna be a Phoenix blind

which would have been sick

[limpid ether]

Who is phoenix

Ans why aee they

Blind

[drowsy isle]

literal phoenix

[limpid ether]

So like revive

?

[drowsy isle]

nah

flashbang

[limpid ether]

Oh

Funny

Sounds annoying rho

[drowsy isle]

I think it could be done

in another way

Ball of fire above his head that follows him

Look at him take damage

[limpid ether]

Ahh

Ok thats cool

[drowsy isle]

So it doesn't literally blind

[limpid ether]

Stalker rype shit

[drowsy isle]

but it effectively does it

[limpid ether]

Mechabic

[drowsy isle]

anti stalker

[limpid ether]

Just stwal that

Mmh

[drowsy isle]

stalker vs rickeo who wins

[limpid ether]

Lol

As much as i dont like lmb being slow and shit i think my main gripe is whip

[drowsy isle]

the whip is weird

[limpid ether]

It feels so sluggish and weak to get ppl in range for lmb

Cus u so slow

[drowsy isle]

should at least be more rewarding

[limpid ether]

I think it needs more velocity

So you can actually brawl

[drowsy isle]

yeah in this blizzard we need some warmth

[robust dagger]

It depends on the base hp of the stalker

the stalker does 50% max hp per hit

with a long cd

[drowsy isle]

how much hp can a guardian player have

actually wait tho

stalker can't jump

so rickeo can in theory perma outrange

or pull him off the map

only need to do like a few dozen thousand dmg

[robust dagger]

Pounce bait the stalker??

[drowsy isle]

highkey tho if it's played on bunker it could go either way

stalker goes around corner and rickeo has to choose to chase or not

now he could wait to passively farm ult

but then stalker enters stalking

so u risk him getting behind u

tho stalker kinda needs to land 3 hits cause rickeo heals

maybe more

[random swallow]

Ok I’m already hella feeling the garwick HP nerf

Monkeykapaa can literally 100-0 me in less than a second

Garwick passive also is very inconsistent in actually working, as well as being unnoticeable on teammates

[drowsy isle]

kappa can 100-0 a lot of people let's be fair

[random swallow]

I think that’s just Kapaa

But it’s like

The super fast character can’t even teleport out of it

Because of the shift input delay

[drowsy isle]

ok but you can see him coming

[random swallow]

And left click delay

[drowsy isle]

and it's a leap not like

an insta 44 dmg execute from like 8 blocks away

[random swallow]

There’s a a delay between casting your shift and actually getting teleported
In theory yes but in practice even if I see him coming the game doesn’t give me enough time

[drowsy isle]

also it makes a sound when u do the leap I believe so you don't need to look at him

idk I found kappa not the worst to play against

very recognizable sound queues

from m1 and leaps

and m2s

easiest hero to track after li and tom imo

[random swallow]

For some reason I’m Kapaa magnet like I just coincidentally teleport into where he’s coincidentally moving even when my team isn’t there dawg so

But even then what I’m saying isn’t helping is the small delay I’ve noticed on garwick shift

It causes me to not take my own teleport if I’m just running diagonally

[drowsy isle]

suffering from success ong

[random swallow]

And I have died mid portal placement

Hell I’ve died to you mid portal placement

[drowsy isle]

don't think I've seen diag runners in bb so far

besides u ofc

[random swallow]

Yeah so it’s basically a just me issue

But it’s garwick issues nonetheless

[drowsy isle]

tho that's kinda cause everyone else needs to be walking straight

[random swallow]

What would we be nerfing on garwick hypothetically

[drowsy isle]

besides garwick who can go sit in a corner and charge equivalent of 3 harmony aoe ranged attack

well

cut dmg a bit

buff heals in return

[random swallow]

Garwick wants line up and running diagonally gives me more line up opportunities

[drowsy isle]

I think just a raw nerf would be a bad idea

[random swallow]

Buffing the healing would be nice

[drowsy isle]

cause that's reverse power creep

[random swallow]

Hear me out

Fall off

Garwick isn’t meant to be played like a sniper behind a corner like a Tom

They’re meant to run around

[drowsy isle]

I think either increase heal rate to the point where it would be 1:1 with the nerfed dmg or heal hitbox bigger

truke

queued into yy for like 7 games in a row on theo and I had to insta shield every time game started

cause teammates kept running in a straight line

you know the spot

[random swallow]

Yeah I do

[grave umbra]

evil 30 dmg ofdoom at the start o the game

[random swallow]

HEHEHEHEHE

[drowsy isle]

hehehehaw

[random swallow]

IDK WHY PEOPLE DO THAT OK

SO MANY CHARACTERS HAVE OPTIONS

[drowsy isle]

cause they getting brickey with it

[random swallow]

fuck as Tom I just RMB over the walls

[grave umbra]

those who dont even know they have a gawrick on the opposite team and get fucked immediatly

[drowsy isle]

yeah that

[random swallow]

Those who don’t know garwick

Exists

[drowsy isle]

tho you'd think teammates would figure it out after like

7 games

stg it was the same people

[random swallow]

I THINK THEYD FIGURE IT OUT AFTER THE FIRST TIME BUT NOOO

Anyway

I like the idea of some fall off as I don’t recall gleamsphere having a range limit

[drowsy isle]

its pretty far yeah

[random swallow]

Like I think I clean up kills cross point on accident

A couple times a game and

[drowsy isle]

it reaches across all of point b/d which is the furthest place

besides mid point to a/e

[random swallow]

Normally I’m fighting mid range anyway

I’m not normally out running I’m just kiting so

Dmg fall off would prevent stupid dumbass cross map 30 dmg snipe

[drowsy isle]

Well one problem he has is still that

Garwick charges beam from like

[random swallow]

But not like Tom 5 block fall off I’d just start jumping people

[drowsy isle]

10-14 block away

and teleports in

and beams u

44 dmg

cant really run from it either

[random swallow]

Can’t do that in brain game I will get destroyed by you notch or Kapaa if I don’t have my mobility

But regardless

[ornate fulcrum]

notch plays blizzard brawl?

[random swallow]

Normally never hitting max dmg gleamsphere ngl

[grave umbra]

this guy loves his hypothetical perfect scenarios for dmg 🤯

[drowsy isle]

the notch yeah

he made the game you know

[ornate fulcrum]

big clickbait potential

[random swallow]

And the teleport rarely actually connects it’s mostly positional to close the distance

[drowsy isle]

idk how ur teleports aren't connecting imma be fr

[random swallow]

So while in theory you can 44dmg in a moment in practice it doesn’t actually happen that often

[drowsy isle]

It's a pretty phat hitbox

[ornate fulcrum]

@summer monolith whats your blizzard brawl rating

[random swallow]

That’s just the way I play garwick I don’t TP into people I tend to use TP to run or reposition

That’s also cause I’m just always against you or Kapaa or notch or enderclaw and I just kinda have to conserve like that

[drowsy isle]

like 2x1x12

[random swallow]

That TP I only use for finisher

[grave umbra]

yeah i see u uise it for finishe a decen bi

[random swallow]

I can’t risk expending it

[drowsy isle]

ye that's the weird thing about to me for garwick like

[random swallow]

Just for dmg alone

[drowsy isle]

in a stacked lobby

hes countered

but he's top 1 pub stomper

so he can't get nuked too hard

[random swallow]

Tbf I think LI is the pub stomper

[grave umbra]

he ain even countered that hard in stacked lobby cuz its risky to go for him

[random swallow]

A good LI does so much more than a good garwick imo

The frustrating slow

The overhealth

[drowsy isle]

thing is he will eventually just

[ornate fulcrum]

player specific metas, this reminds me of like top 500 mobas where every player knows eachother

[random swallow]

The big aoes

[drowsy isle]

die

[random swallow]

Garwick is just annoying

[drowsy isle]

garwick uhhhhhh

wont

[random swallow]

Heslthpack

Li just hover to heath pack

[ornate fulcrum]

should i play gawrick with my skill level

[grave umbra]

li is not wasting hover to go to health pack most of the time

[random swallow]

Yeah and he has Hp nerf now

[random swallow]

Shush you can charge hover while hovering

[drowsy isle]

surely people are aware of how to catch a garwick

[grave umbra]

they a enot

[drowsy isle]

might as well learn

[random swallow]

I also feel like Tom is better at pub stomping

[grave umbra]

i will chagre my hover when i am fdlying to the health pack and not aiming at anynoe

[random swallow]

You just delete people

[drowsy isle]

eh

[ornate fulcrum]

im alergic augh

[random swallow]

Requires aim but

[drowsy isle]

tom when enemy desperation swaps to theo

[random swallow]

I play pfinder Tom and I’m just rocking 30:1 or smth

[drowsy isle]

and suddenly walled

[random swallow]

Even then garwick doesn’t deal too well with that either, have to use shift per shield

And I think the shield comes back faster

[drowsy isle]

shield is 15s cd

[random swallow]

What

[drowsy isle]

yeah

[random swallow]

wtf

Ok lol ig just shift into Theo shield I’ve been playing wrong