OFFICIAL Blizzard Brawl 2025 feedback thread

[lucid latch]

I would actually really like for the bomb to be visible

[drowsy isle]

12s cd

except cd starts when you throw it

[lucid latch]

Cause its very difficult to notice it when its out; you’re basically always side eyeing for the thing, even before you hear it

[grave umbra]

Bomb is shown its js tiny and wallbans anyway so

Whatevrr

[lucid latch]

Make it glow

[drowsy isle]

also it has an incredibly similar model to the m2

[grave umbra]

TRUE

[drowsy isle]

similar size too

like imagine if li mech m2 was as small as the grenade

visually

[lucid latch]

Whoever recommended it glowing earlier had the right idea

[drowsy isle]

but still had the hitbox of 3 blocks wide

[lucid latch]

And make it bigger, tbh, it’s stupid small

[drowsy isle]

yeah might as well make some more use out of the new hitboxes that sock added for yahya passive

since you will 9/10 not be able to use the hitboxes from yayha passive anyways

[lucid latch]

What is Yahya’s passive, again?

[wraith lintel]

see through walls

with enough mushroom stacks on people

for everyone

glowing

[lucid latch]

Oh, I’ve never even noticed that

[drowsy isle]

yeah cause yahya shift just removes the stacks

[lucid latch]

I’m basically expending them nonstop, anyways,

What a strange passive; it’s basically never gonna appear, unless your Yahya biffed a shift

[drowsy isle]

im for the idea of the m2 being able to prolong the glowing effect

[lucid latch]

Also, they degrade kinda quick, so you won’t even notice is for long enough to make sensible use of it

[drowsy isle]

when hitting an enemy, for every stack they have (above 2), inflict glowing hitbox for 2s

so 3 stacks, apply for 2s

4 stacks, 4s

5 stacks, 6s

and it alligns with the idea of crowd control

that or let the m2 add some stacks

[lucid latch]

Idk, that kind of glowing effect just doesn’t seem so useful

[drowsy isle]

to be able to view enemy through walls more reliably

the glowing effect is very good

just that you might not see it enough to recognize it

[lucid latch]

When would you use it? I just kinda recognize where someone might be going, and 50/50 predict it if they do or don’t

[drowsy isle]

heres the thing

its a passive

you dont need to actively use it

good for ally toms

good for ally li's

good for ally theoricks

good for ally rickeos

good for ally haileys

[lucid latch]

Oh, right, other players

[drowsy isle]

good for ally irloks

you get the idea

[grave umbra]

True if it made players glow for longer and debuffed thst would prob be ok

[drowsy isle]

teammates being able to see exactly when an enemy is walking around a corner

slash where the enemies are

enables for good synergies

tom ults wallbanging

li mechs being able to prefire

[grave umbra]

Li mech ult a lot o stuff could use it yeah

[drowsy isle]

theorick being able to spear enemies more easily

that too yes li mech ult

[lucid latch]

I see the use, now, but I’m still stuck on how often you’d make use of it, since BB can be such a quick game, with tons of fast deaths. When would you get it off enough before you accidentally kill the guy

[drowsy isle]

rickeo being able to pre aim the shift

[drowsy isle]

always

because its a passive

being able to passively know where the enemies is insanely good util

[lucid latch]

Would it consume your DOTS?

[drowsy isle]

nah

tho

actually idk

doesnt matter much

the idea is that the bomb is so weird rn

and the passive is not being allowed to work a lot

so combine the two issues for a nicer solution

[lucid latch]

Maybe a DOT per cast would be consumed

[drowsy isle]

could just make it straight up that damaging an enemy can trigger the passive

[lucid latch]

For players in your Yahya’s vicinity of idk how many blocks

[lucid latch]

That’d also be handy

[grave umbra]

Bomb should be easiere to see wuth glow or model, have its radius be shown and reduced, and mabye not eat stackks for heff debbuff (idk ifit does tbis alr )and also make enemies glow for like 10s
That woukd prib be enuh

[drowsy isle]

when yahya damages an enemy, for every stack they have, inflict glowing for 2s

rework the passive a bit

and at the same time maybe change the bomb to work somewhat like shadestepper marks

while in the aoe, gain 1 mark for every x duration inside

up to 2 marks total

nerf detonation damage down to 5

[lucid latch]

Yahya supporting by marking targets would make a lot more sense, actually, than the healing it’s trying—and failing—to get off

[drowsy isle]

the heals imma be so fr look impossible to reliably land rn

shift doesnt go far enough

[lucid latch]

I figured out how you’re supposed to do it, but it’s fucked

[drowsy isle]

post nerf itll be even rougher

youll be forced to end your shift basically on an enemy, and since self heals go down, youll get shredded

[lucid latch]

Had a team play around me a bit more, and it made it so much easier to support, but that shit is entirely reliant on your team playing around you

[drowsy isle]

great idea

counterpoint

dr li mech m2

there goes your grouping

[lucid latch]

Like, yeah

I don’t even bother with the healing, unless it’s to save someone in a 2v1

You can kinda do it, if you’re quick and they’re stupid, but like

[toxic plover]

Who is currently the highest ranked player?

[wraith lintel]

the team coordination supporters are backed by Big Dr Legendary Mech Mode Corkus' Wrath users

[drowsy isle]

probably pqche or spellsniffer from what ive seen

there might be eu or as players with higher tho

[toxic plover]

How much SR do they have?

[grave umbra]

As players r not queueing frfr

They have like 1000 smtth or smth

[drowsy isle]

heard pqche peaked at like

1060 smth

spell i think was 1070 or 1080

[lucid latch]

I’ll be there in no time

If NA players actually queued

EU crashed my game 2 times in a row

[grave umbra]

Im stuck ay like 955 ish

Lol

Surely i get to 1k ehwn i get mlr tim

[random swallow]

I’m at 1075 rn

The eternal road to 1.1k

[grave umbra]

If i queue more pfinder solo it would prob be fastwr

[random swallow]

If it’s pfinder it’s no change

I’m in hell

[limpid ether]

Im at like

1020 or something

I feel like i have to stay dr li or team plays worse or plays theo but not good

[random swallow]

If I’m not garwicking it I’m like 500 sr

[limpid ether]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-box-surprise-cats-gif-10064777

Gawrick suprise attack

[random swallow]

That’s you stealing my sr

[limpid ether]

WHAT

me

[random swallow]

i lied

[grave umbra]

Me trying to hit pqche when she gets a health pack

(Impossible challenge)

[woeful apex]

surely if i get good enough at flicking i can deal with gawick on tom

[drowsy isle]

you dont need to be able to flick tho

just track

and hit your hinders

[woeful apex]

what

i have to use my brain then D:

[drowsy isle]

pov he was forced to use the projectile

[tight aurora]

iirc nipnop used to have 1.8k rating on last year
-# But we don't need to talk more about outcast

[crystal thicket]

he’s better than you

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1162564880583381133/1301423238840061952/watermark.gif

[sand fiber]

2024 and 2025 ratings are not directly comparable

in fact it would be more accurate to say

not at all comparable

[runic stratus]

Which tom lol

[drowsy isle]

theres a few good toms out there

Friskychunks

Redthesniper

diamondanimosity1

actually it might be diamondoblivion1

[runic stratus]

🗿 🗿 🗿

[light narwhal]

Does anyone know the mathemathical stats of charging ults?

Like how much each action charges the ult

Its not that explained tbh

[drowsy isle]

we can test it rn if u wanna

[light narwhal]

K sure

[drowsy isle]

not_creeper?

[light narwhal]

Ya

[drowsy isle]

https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/lJH4gMQR9wHhngePW?invite=cr-MSxEZ0YsNDU0NzA0MTE0

theorick spear doesnt correctly stun tom ult or yahya out of ult

[grave umbra]

It stunning and removing ult soundsna little dumb but it shoukd def keep the line/indicator orb whatveer lo

[drowsy isle]

it stuns garwick and irlok out of ult

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[grave umbra]

True

Stunnin gawrick out of it soumds goofy asf

[light narwhal]

Theorick stun only removes gawrick ult if it isnt a projectile apparently

[past mortar]

noob lol

[light narwhal]

Only works if the black hole alr landed

[grave umbra]

Goofdd

[light narwhal]

If the black hole is still a projectile, i.e shooting out and still moving then doesnt remove

[grave umbra]

I knew it got cancled on user death but this is nezt level silly

I wonder if it dosnt get canclled if tthe gawrick dies when its stik a projectike

[light narwhal]

It does get cancelled

We tested it, whenever you die as gawrick or theo ur ult despawns

[grave umbra]

Typ sh

[light narwhal]

Theo ult is also removed on stun

However it has to land first

Iirc

[drowsy isle]

Nah it ain't removed unless death

Cause garwick has a windup time after it lands

Theo is like as soon as it lands

[wraith lintel]

hey so whats up with this

oop

i mean the capture point text is a little cursed

[drowsy isle]

is this this in the room with us

[lucid latch]

That must be a recent bug, because it stunned me out of an ult just fine a few days ago

[drowsy isle]

it visually stuns

it doesnt actually stun

if you hit f you still fire the beam

the particles are just invisble

[blazing dragon]

wherre can I find competitive blizzard brawl gaming at

[random swallow]

you will never stop me

[random swallow]

Yeah monkeykapaa had the same amount, i was also close

its just the SR this year cant seem to get past 1.2k ish

[random swallow]

i love targetting all toms

[grave umbra]

RACIST

[woeful surge]

4 streak losing to ENDERCLAW

[grave umbra]

Abt to makw that a 4 losinf strwsak vs jackiw ball

[runic stratus]

sob

[grave umbra]

I love tsrgetting toms and realizing i miscounted their ammo

[tight aurora]

me when weird aim tom users are low level

Time to /report each and see how many I can catch!

[grave umbra]

Me when the tom spams m1 and accidwnrly nukes mt mech ;(

[tight aurora]

I don't get the slangs
What's m1 and things

[grave umbra]

Mouse button one and two is left snd rifht click respextivley

[tight aurora]

oh

[woeful surge]

FINALLY SHUT DOWN THE STREAK

i feel like the rating is trolling

my team in past 4 round is NOT equal to enderclaw's team

only this round equal cause they have a lowlvl doing like nothing

[random swallow]

similarly, LMB is left mouse button & RMB is right mouse button

idk i think it can be specified either way, but m1 usually used i think cause commonly listed that way in game controls

[blazing dragon]

I love MonkeyKappa

hes a goat

[grave umbra]

I HATE monkeykapaa 😡 a

RACIST and SEXIST to my li mech and rmb wjth 5 harmony on girlock

JUST becausee im playijng a STRUGGLIJF MINTOARY QHITE MALE character 😡

UNGAIR hitboxes and RACIST solo ults 🙀

[woeful surge]

girlock 😭

[blazing dragon]

yo can I join? 🙂

agro hailey

[random swallow]

its ok his rmb like magnetizes to me regardless of where i am or if he was even aiming for me

[grave umbra]

fuck tom nay e mojis

[random swallow]

censor it bro

[grave umbra]

im gfhost pinging salted efery time i fuck this messahe up highkeyu

does filter also check for capitlaization if so thts fucke dup

[blazing dragon]

what was that copy paste

[random swallow]

ACEPT

PFINDER

FUCKER

IT QUEUD

ACCPEt

[blazing dragon]

im not even in ):

[random swallow]

was at jacki

sorry

he was making some stupid copy pasta

[blazing dragon]

about hailey shift?

oh ur the person the one d legenday was saying mean things to

[random swallow]

yes

he hats me

hates

[blazing dragon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1064862363431485481/1421722781850009751/caption.gif

[grave umbra]

🤯

[strange ocean]

wtf

[misty rapids]

@runic stratus is this true

[grave umbra]

@hollow sable you!

[runic stratus]

@misty rapids this is true

the 2v2 was funy

[misty rapids]

🎅

[runic stratus]

was a mirror matchup of gawrick + tom for a couple minutes

[hollow sable]

I suck at fighting Gawricks as a Gawrick

When that punchahbe swapped to Gawrick I started getting owned

[runic stratus]

thats crazy

i genuinely could not hit you tho

it was crazy

everyone else i can hit like 1% of the time i could hit you like 0.1% of the time

[hollow sable]

That is the average tom vs Gawrick experience

[runic stratus]

😭😭

i do think i am below average tom tho

[woeful surge]

Me when keep losing to enderclaw

[feral hemlock]

he looks so jolly

[grave umbra]

I woukd win lose

[shadow moon]

@tight aurora snipe this guy

[drowsy isle]

simply counterswap irlok/yahya

[grave umbra]

Who up blozzy at 2 am

[light narwhal]

Oh ok

Sorry i think i remembered incorrectly

[drowsy isle]

Have you ever played blozzy brawl with your life on the line

[light narwhal]

@tight aurora can you make a bbrawl video?

Maybe a montage

[drowsy isle]

Highkey blizzy I feel benefits more from full games instead of montages

unless you actually hit some crazy shots

[woeful surge]

I can counter him doesn’t mean my teammates can counter him

🤯

[grave umbra]

truly a me when i survive on point for 2 mintues on 2 hp and my teamates instantly die when getting on point

[drowsy isle]

counter them so hard they don't get a chance to bully ur team

shrimply insta demech them every time with max harmony kick

[grave umbra]

those who farm harmony on the idiots and nuke mech instantly

and wallbang on the random wall blocks in center point 🤯

[tight aurora]

Made Gawrick single shot double kill twice in a single game
-# no ulti
What a day

[toxic plover]

Which character do people think is the strongest?

[woeful apex]

Gawick 100%

[tight aurora]

evil runner

[drowsy isle]

mfw the free runner perma +40ws hitscan 12 dmg/heals movement execute with 40 block multiuser teleporter that doesn't need to be placed on a surface support who can eat all the health packs and can aoe burst for 32 damage and heal allies at the same time for half that has more hp damage movement cc range choke denial than a dps called rickeo

like why would you play rickeo genuinely

devolved into rickeo slander halfway through sorry gang I couldn't help myself

but is it slander if it's true

[sharp finch]

im glad not a lot of people play that one

so hard to hit on high ping

[drowsy isle]

so hard to hit period

why does the melee guy have such a slow m1 projectile

[sharp finch]

why does it feel like the melee guy has like a 0.5s hit delay

[drowsy isle]

also the shift is

so incredibly inconsistent

I've tested and I can actually 1.5x my dash duration if I'm lagging

and several times I've tested against someone standing perfectly still and I can still dash through them to not do the uppercut

[sharp finch]

Mfw i accidentally yeet myself off the map for the 10th time

[drowsy isle]

there is a trick

it's called hold shift literally the entire way through

until it completely ends

(and pray your shift doesn't bring you to like some snow piles or stairs)

Tbh there isn't really a reason to not hold the shift the entire way through

it is not really controllable with wasd inputs

literally ride or die

but tbh rickeo shift problems are mostly Wynn's fault

[delicate kelp]

how are yall having issues with rickeo shift

its not that hard....

[sharp finch]

i play on 120ms ping bc nobody plays on eu servers

[delicate kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

[drowsy isle]

aiming below 10 yaw makes it not come out

server ping can elongate the dash by up to 20 blocks

[sharp finch]

wdym

[drowsy isle]

dashes sometimes fail to contact at all, against even stationary targets

[drowsy isle]

hit f3 and aim below 10 on your yaw thingy

and try to shift

it won't come out

[sharp finch]

ah

[drowsy isle]

(sock is fixing that)

[delicate kelp]

mmh im never having this issue 🤭

[delicate kelp]

also this never happened with my shifts

[drowsy isle]

Cuz ur a stinky yahya abuser who gets aerodynamics charge for a shift

[sharp finch]

happens to me sometimes

[delicate kelp]

used to main rickeo

[drowsy isle]

last year?

[delicate kelp]

and start of this year

[drowsy isle]

cuz this year he actually just caught a stray for no reason

and lost 33% of fire ticks for m1 and m2

[delicate kelp]

will be switching back to rickeo once yahya nerf hits servers

[sharp finch]

i played rickeo bc i like his playstyle but i play yayha now bc hes op

[drowsy isle]

dw I'll stun u out of ur charge there as well

[delicate kelp]

disliked

[drowsy isle]

https://youtu.be/PFUEaHVe2vg

clip for reference

[delicate kelp]

that is ai

never happened

[sharp finch]

anyone wanna play?

[delicate kelp]

im eating

[sharp finch]

hi eating

im fred

[delicate kelp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1167848346485006459/1394255128696979568/togif.gif

[sand fiber]

how has lag been this year

better or worse than last

[sharp finch]

its been pretty good

[delicate kelp]

haven't had any issues this year

[sharp finch]

had like 1 game where the server was having a stroke but thats it

[sand fiber]

great news my optimisations worked

[woeful surge]

only seen enemies got high ping and had a hard time aiming on them

[pale ibex]

honestly better then last year

[drowsy isle]

I play a character that relies on server stability to stay alive

[woeful surge]

wtb irlok kick hitbox improvement idk it feels weird on high ms

and sometimes i land a kick but it doesn’t proc until 0.5s later

and enemy jump can dodge kick is so silly

I might start to aim their heads

[drowsy isle]

@sand fiber rickeo charges ult via ult presumably cuz burn heals/dmg

[light narwhal]

Just make rikeo fire last thrice as long

[drowsy isle]

those who get trapped in infinite hitstun

also heres a dogshit balance proposal: invert garwick heals and damage on m2

[light narwhal]

That would make it better than hailey at healing tbh

[drowsy isle]

hailey has sustained heals tho

[delicate kelp]

while he nerfs that, he should give rickeo more self healing or damage, its severely lacking at the moment

[drowsy isle]

it would be strong burst heals but i think hailey raw outheals

[drowsy isle]

rickeo damage and heals are fine on paper

just ahrd hitboxes

comically slow m1

shift being fixed might be enough for him to be viable again

esp since yahya is getting nerfed at the same time

since yahya rn is just rickeo but better in every way

[delicate kelp]

im fine when his hitboxes are small if it just feels rewarding to hit someone

[light narwhal]

Just make yahya truly support

Shift no longer does damage

However heal for 20 per afflicted

[delicate kelp]

HELL NO

[drowsy isle]

literlaly immortal 🔥

actually you know what

no dont heal 20 per

get 20 overhealth per

100 overhealth jumpscare

[light narwhal]

Ik dont do that

Keep damage at 10, but make it 100x slower shift

[delicate kelp]

bring back last year rickeo

[drowsy isle]

also uh maybe let theorick passive proc on assists

[delicate kelp]

he was so much fun to play back then

[drowsy isle]

damage is 7 rn

[light narwhal]

What did they change?

[drowsy isle]

lost 33% fire ticks on m1 and m2

[light narwhal]

Why? was it even ever good?

[drowsy isle]

i think technically same damage but less hitstun

[light narwhal]

Esp bc hp pack exist

[delicate kelp]

he was goated

[drowsy isle]

rickeo was pretty good yeah

[light narwhal]

Ok half the fire damage but double the burn time, so he works like a non bursty but sustained damage

[drowsy isle]

heals 1/35th of max hp per m1

[drowsy isle]

half the fire damage from 2 to 1

🔥

eureka

[delicate kelp]

ur all crazy

[light narwhal]

Wait ik

[delicate kelp]

worse than idek

[light narwhal]

He now burns for 10sec, just like normal mc fire

[drowsy isle]

those who pop third clarion

[light narwhal]

And the fire covers 60% of the screen

[tight aurora]

warning : enderclaw timezone

[drowsy isle]

actually lowkey i might just pop third clarion whenever i start blizzard

free 60s of fire immunity

[light narwhal]

It works?

[drowsy isle]

it should

[delicate kelp]

yeah it works

[drowsy isle]

youll probably still take damage

but no hitstun

but you need to use it before the game starts

[delicate kelp]

you can use during game

[drowsy isle]

oh gg

rickeo stocks down the drain

[delicate kelp]

if I remember correctly

[light narwhal]

wak

Rikeo sucks anyway

But this is def a bug

[delicate kelp]

I will beat your ass with rickeo

https://tenor.com/view/cat-on-fire-sitting-edited-on-fire-fire-gif-17645117

[light narwhal]

Whats ur ign?

[drowsy isle]

salted

[delicate kelp]

enderclaw

[light narwhal]

:doom:

[drowsy isle]

yygamer

[delicate kelp]

jackieballs

[drowsy isle]

monkeykapaa

[delicate kelp]

those who know

[drowsy isle]

toes uno

[delicate kelp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486049908248412160/1359288355841507488/caption.gif

[limpid ether]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-box-surprise-cats-gif-10064777

garlic attack

[drowsy isle]

waiter waiter

more mvp please

[light narwhal]

People are playing rn?

[drowsy isle]

no lmao

that was a 25 minute queue

also @tight aurora thats rough buddy

one of your teammates only used their class weapon

[light narwhal]

Dont queue now, only sweats here

[drowsy isle]

theres like 3 sweats on rn

[delicate kelp]

queue queue !!!

[light narwhal]

Ur spellsniffer right?

[delicate kelp]

🤤

[delicate kelp]

no im yygamer

[delicate kelp]

keep the grind going 🔥

[drowsy isle]

no i shall not grant u any sr to siphon

i will donate it all to yy

[delicate kelp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343421610606067732/1344754194133024933/attachment-3.gif

[drowsy isle]

well when he doesnt get queued against me and frisky with me as hailey hardpocket

sih seh ei

[limpid ether]

https://imgur.com/NwxzGr6

washed

[drowsy isle]

https://tenor.com/view/my-goat-washed-my-goat-is-washed-washed-goat-your-goat-is-washed-mfw-my-goat-is-washed-gif-11435157539877774481

[delicate kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/run-cat-animal-pet-slide-gif-3527899

[drowsy isle]

rare good first gif result pull

[drowsy isle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1129619762977185865/1447048489967157268/attachment.gif

[delicate kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10311420692458175149

[limpid ether]

i reconiz that map

[drowsy isle]

if u recognize that game

that is elite ball knowledge

[limpid ether]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278807585465827492/1331460253790769232/IMG_2422.gif

this will happen to you

[drowsy isle]

cause as far as im aware only 1 other person in this server knows that game

[delicate kelp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/773108055558455296/1400564469733527682/image_3.gif

[limpid ether]

small

[delicate kelp]

anyways

what food should I order

don't feel like making anything

@drowsy isle any suggestions?

[drowsy isle]

well where is this first of all

id recommend subway if ur region has the 8.99 footlongs

im sure u can eat that all

[delicate kelp]

why did you edit it...

[drowsy isle]

hm?

[delicate kelp]

mmh?

https://tenor.com/view/very-silly-cat-silly-silly-cat-very-cool-gif-5299134979516050166

[drowsy isle]

^sounds of you eating the footlong

or go get burger kings wraps

lowkey theyre kinda fire

small enough to fit the entire thing down at once

and not too large

[delicate kelp]

oh my

very interesting

[drowsy isle]

yeah youd like that

ok i gotta stop the modbait

this is getting too freaky

[delicate kelp]

😍

[drowsy isle]

freaky

[delicate kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-cat-drooling-silly-cat-silly-cat-gif-3586937027183329428

[toxic plover]

What’s the best character after Gawrick?

[drowsy isle]

tom prolly

[tame oriole]

There’s 3 dps and 3 support
What’s the third tank gonna be

[robust dagger]

What if we could play as death

[toxic plover]

Graken could be cool

[toxic plover]

Death is already used in BtB.

[robust dagger]

That’s the executioner 😊

I see no parallels

[tame oriole]

Actually lowk gimme Kelight gameplay

[toxic plover]

Yes, all the spirits are based on some sort of existing wynn NPC or enemy

[woeful surge]

third tank that can crowd pull enemies

[robust dagger]

Who is the stalker??

[woeful surge]

ult will be taunt

[robust dagger]

maybe we can get that fat guy from the fruma trailer

[toxic plover]

The Stalker is based on Krolton from Beyond The Grave

[robust dagger]

Seems like a bit of a stretch

They don’t look very similar

[sand fiber]

i can confirm this is the case

[limpid ether]

krolton but on a diet

too BIG for btb

[drowsy isle]

qira

3 big shots

or maybe saint nick

[tame oriole]

Hrmmm
I still think kelight would be funny

[toxic plover]

What about supports? Healers are fine, but I also like support characters that help in ways other than healing

[sand fiber]

3 big shots from kitchen gun

[tame oriole]

We have 3 dps and 3 support rn so the last trio to complete is the tonk

[sand fiber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ3DEnvJ464

[tame oriole]

Spamton third tank ???

[drowsy isle]

how about someone who can connect to an ally via their m1, healing, with m2 swapping to damage boost

[sand fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-gif-11007087996166801418

[drowsy isle]

for their ability they can dash towards an enemy, and if they jump it gives them a superjump

for their ult it can either give them free flight or team res

your choice

[sand fiber]

team res isnt rly that relevant in this game

[drowsy isle]

*team revive

not resistance

[sand fiber]

yeah not that relevant i think

[drowsy isle]

on longer points it's pretty impactful

with it being like 5s respawns in some endgames

tho that's fair

how about grant one ally 50% dmg boost and -50% dmg taken for lets say

8 seconds

all from my imagination ong

[toxic plover]

I’m not sure how a res wouldn’t be impactful in a shooter game

[random swallow]

Ah yes let’s revive the garwick that the team took 10 minutes to kill

I think a revive would be so tilting esp cause of how satisfying double kills with ultra are

[drowsy isle]

surely he hasn't already respawned

clueless

[random swallow]

And he’s already at point

[drowsy isle]

A reverse of that might be interesting

delay someone's respawn

[pure dagger]

Yahya ult is kind of doing this slightly

[random swallow]

That’s just Yahya

[pure dagger]

Not directly but it's similar

[drowsy isle]

eh yahya feels more like just insta killing them

[random swallow]

Yeah with longer delay time

[drowsy isle]

or a traq dart is more fitting

[random swallow]

Ok we are just adding a sleep

[drowsy isle]

well yahya ult is basically tranq on drugs

literally

[past mortar]

please add base eldritch call to Theorick

[drowsy isle]

that the thing that gives aoe dmg in the radius?

like mermonkey top path?

[limpid ether]

i agree

actually gota funny clip

[past mortar]

32 blocks radius and it has one of the highest damage conversions in the game

[limpid ether]

@sand fiber enjoy

[drowsy isle]

did u send the wrong clip

[limpid ether]

no!

do you not see it

[drowsy isle]

what I'm seeing is a reason to nerf li

[limpid ether]

🤨

[drowsy isle]

2 block large hitbox moment

[limpid ether]

no i shott hem d irectly

[drowsy isle]

yeah

[limpid ether]

it explodes on contact

goober

[drowsy isle]

I'm aware

[limpid ether]

you cannot see this SKILL

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-pussycat-feline-gif-26001328

[drowsy isle]

it has a like 2.5 block large hitbox

with a devious visual

[limpid ether]

@grave umbra this ism e

[drowsy isle]

shorely li mech m2 gets a projectile model next year

[limpid ether]

tiny nuke

not glowing troll

[grave umbra]

Pro!

Using li mech to save ylurslef form void ks bery funny but ive fucked it up like twice thisbyear

And just completely voided my ult and died lol

[wraith lintel]

any upcoming changes

[polar gulch]

yes

[polar gulch]

check pins

the newest one

[wraith lintel]

cool cool nothing new yet

[lucid latch]

Fruma is coming maybe in 1 month 👹

[polar gulch]

yeahrught

if the devs are tucked in maybe in 8 motnhs

[drowsy isle]

posing question to other blizzy gamers: do you guys think dr li mech should be able to fire a missile the frame he enters mech

[limpid ether]

are you aware of the weapon use/swap cd

[drowsy isle]

mhm

3s

[limpid ether]

Alr good

[grave umbra]

when is next patch for changess

[drowsy isle]

2027

[random swallow]

just had a teammate tom try to solo ult me

this is actually racism

why i lose -1 for that

[feral hemlock]

gonna be happy that I don't see that many herberts
no clue how others feel being constantly peppered by my Amazing Incredible 1 Damage Peashooter

[drowsy isle]

also @sand fiber are the experimental hitboxes still active

[sand fiber]

yeah

[drowsy isle]

good 2 know

[sand fiber]

i think

that they are working better than the old ones

[drowsy isle]

rickeo usage rates in question 😔

wait so rickeo caught triple strays

*quad strays

[drowsy isle]

actually do u have usage rates

im presuming no

[feral hemlock]

twain brothers in shambles this year

[sand fiber]

no :(

[drowsy isle]

:(

[sand fiber]

i have a very scuffed solution which would let me view them

but i would get shouted at if i turned it on

[drowsy isle]

just dont tell anyone

glueless

[grave umbra]

the data gatherrer

[limpid ether]

Lowkey it isnt the worst

Its more the pressure

Insta high range harassment

Scares ppl esp if they see you hovering over

[feral hemlock]

around 60% of the time I end up missing most of my shots anyway and deal like
1 whole damage to an enemy

gets nasty on point 2 though with how open it is

[grave umbra]

Helicopter my belovd

[sharp finch]

queue up gang

[grave umbra]

DONT listen to the BRAINWASHED and WOKE blizzard brawlers 🤫 ‼️ ❗ BLIZZARD ❄️ BRAWL 🥊 is RACIST 🙀 and SEXIST 🤯 when i play on my UNDERPRIVLADGED and historically OPPRESSEED WHITE MALE dr herbet von legendary backshots 🫃on dr backsshots 🤨 i am ONLY paid 77 shards when the MATRIACHY gives out 100 shards to the 🤰 playing GARlick 🧄 who have UNFAIR SMALLER hitbox 😡

i am being ENSLAVED 🤯 by big salted to pay for his ⛵ and have to play blizzard ❄️ brawl 🥊 every time i queue and SUFFER to my big ass and big hitbox 😡 and get SHOT in an alley by the rAIcst 🙀 toms girloks and yahyas solo ulting me out of my mech of backshots and despair 😰 making me lose 🥀 20 elo because i was paired with lvl 67 floperator 💾 who is asking for btb heals ⛑️ when uninjured 2 hp 🤯 and lvl 105 garlick 🧄 who spams m2 every second and spawns a teleporter into the void on match point 🧠

i hope 🙏 that one day 📆 i can represent the OPRRESSED ✊ white male population and play dr herbet legendary von backshots WITHOUT gaining 0.067 elo on win and getting innappropiately touched by a mosquito, high character, tomboy, or girlok the destroyer 🤯

[blissful canopy]

#📫noticeboard message

[past mortar]

🤓

[grave umbra]

This is a serious discusson post please stay on topic.

[past mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1036586382233194496/1333425030503202826/ezgif-499d494334b63.gif

[grave umbra]

Insert keldorn calm down gif

[drowsy isle]

calm down

[unborn meadow]

https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExa293Y2o1eGR6bHVhN2JqaGswZDY2MDhlcHNpNTUyYnh3ZndqNGNvbyZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/3ClYqZdvNP6JNHq76K/giphy.gif

[grave umbra]

@robust dagger do you have the keldorn calm down gi

[robust dagger]

ye

[crystal thicket]

you’re on thin ice

[feral hemlock]

herbert

[drowsy isle]

like the minigame

oh yeah @sand fiber is it intended for theorick to be unable to stun li hover, tom ult, and yahya ult

[random swallow]

hey can we get

afk detection

i had my teammate afk after first point for the entire game in spawn

[drowsy isle]

well game stats reflect that and sr is dropped accordingly id imagine

[random swallow]

i still took -

[feral hemlock]

minus 1 sr

[drowsy isle]

also after not queueing with linnymaxxers my sr has somehow climbed up to 1017

whoopa

my goat haileys tho fr

[random swallow]

bro

my pfinder games

just

give

me

leaver

s

[drowsy isle]

sadge

for reliable sr grind u gotta hit up that 6stack

[random swallow]

genuinely

[drowsy isle]

ensures people wont leave + sr gain almost guarenteed

[random swallow]

i dont think ive had a raw pfinder solo queue game without someone leaving or going afk very early

because it is currently impossible to win
(with leavers, point prio should shift using % of team members rather than flat value)
(ppl not punished for afk)

[drowsy isle]

afk detection has gotta be pretty aggresive in that case tho

[grave umbra]

New tech if u are a brick: go afk 🤯

[random swallow]

i mean my recent case i realized he afk'd before the first point even captured- so like after first death

and just didnt move from the respawn point at all

I feel like afk detection CAN be aggressive for specifically not moving in spawn

[drowsy isle]

in that case i feel like smth that should be added alongisde that is confirmation to start a game

or some extra delay

there are people who insta requeue games

and you either have to sit there and play it out

or lose sr

[random swallow]

i like that little stutter time in BTB where it just warps u to the lobby, and you still have to run to the thing to start it

I wish games didnt auto start in BB

Might fix the queueing from sandbox issue

[drowsy isle]

well its the same thing as btb

someone has to run to the npc tos tart it

and worse, someone leaving doesnt stop it

since u can enter game with 4 ppl

[random swallow]

i feel like they auto start from pfinder

I dont even see the bb lobby

but yeah btb has that little cooldown for re queueing a game, cant hurt to fake some "map loading" for just a 5 sec window

would also give everyone a fair chance to connect to the world (like ppl cross region) to both get in the game and get their class

[drowsy isle]

in this scenario, this does exist

if people havent properly loaded yet, itll say waiting for players

but its uncommon to see

[random swallow]

true

[drowsy isle]

as in i have only seen it one time

and the game auto cancels if they cant connect in time

[random swallow]

same also only once

idk i feel like there can be a lot more done when it comes to preventing early leavers

(and lowering punishment to those subjected to said early leavers)

[grave umbra]

Ive seen it a decent bit this hear but it was also js when the server was laggig and someom couknt join lol

[woeful surge]

963->943 from yesterday

[grave umbra]

Real as ballls

We will grt to 1k eventually...

[woeful surge]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-the-misery-wawa-cat-oh-the-misery-everybody-wants-to-be-my-enemy-gif-25218342

[drowsy isle]

road to rank 1

[woeful surge]

more like rank -1

[drowsy isle]

it's golf rules

[woeful surge]

-20 per day

[drowsy isle]

lowest score is best player

[grave umbra]

@sterile pasture golf with friends rn?

[sterile pasture]

https://preview.redd.it/they-will-not-stop-yapping-its-so-boring-v0-fzyzlorbb1od1.gif?width=20&auto=webp&s=10f928c301deadd8c2e6aac2bba4da3c912986cf

[tight aurora]

wtf I was 950 -> 1020 yesterday

[delicate kelp]

gawrick player, disliked

[toxic plover]

Who has the most SR now?

[polar gulch]

pqche? idk

answer up fellas

[woeful apex]

D:

[toxic plover]

No one has cracked 1,100 yet?

[drowsy isle]

@sand fiber how is it determined how much harmony is refunded from irlok ult?

sometimes its 5 no matter how much harmony you had before you ulted

sometimes its 2

it seems server dependent

[sand fiber]

depends on how many ppl you hit iirc

[drowsy isle]

im testing with murse and hes hitting just me

and is getting 5 every time

[polar gulch]

I'm getting a constant 5 from hitting only doomish

[drowsy isle]

if he has 0 harmony, 2 harmony

[polar gulch]

Oh its 5 harmony even if i had none

It's just 5 every time i hit him

[sand fiber]

should just be a flat 1 per hit

the irlok ult doesnt consume harmony though

[drowsy isle]

ok i got 1 just now

na3

god damn it wrong clips

https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/lKgXlvvc7sNnEnF7_?invite=cr-MSxFNDQsNDU0NzA0MTE0&v=15

https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/lKgWrS7I1INqPMvL6?invite=cr-MSx3QVosNDU0NzA0MTE0

na1

5

[sand fiber]

it might be lag based looking at it

[polar gulch]

how does that happen

[sand fiber]

bad code

[drowsy isle]

:(

https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/lKgWrS7I1INqPMvL6?invite=cr-MSx3QVosNDU0NzA0MTE0

na1 again

we swapped from 1 to 3

back to 1

2 harmony

[sand fiber]

yeah

ummmm

so the problem is

i don't wanna touch that script cuz its a phat fucking mess

[drowsy isle]

wait whys he evil

unevil version

[polar gulch]

sockscript™

[drowsy isle]

ok wtf

why are these gifs actually fis

[sand fiber]

quint wrote this one...

[drowsy isle]

those who point and laugh

[polar gulch]

quintscript™

[drowsy isle]

also related to testing

is it intended for theorick to be unable to stun li out of hover booster

tom out of ult

and yahya out of ult

[sand fiber]

probably

[drowsy isle]

because for the latter 2 it removes their particles

like you cant see them aim the ult after you stun them

but they still have it

they cant see the particles either

[polar gulch]

I mean

Dying with yahya or tom ult makes the particle invisible too

But you can still shoot them (which is bs btw)

[delicate kelp]

not yet but we almost there 🙏

[drowsy isle]

wait wtf

didnt know that part

[polar gulch]

oh go tom and ill kill you with ult charged

Then just tpa swpa hands again to shoot it

[toxic plover]

What are you at?

[drowsy isle]

https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/lKh3KTVqMy69VRwD3?invite=cr-MSw4dWYsNDU0NzA0MTE0

well

thats a bit cooked

[delicate kelp]

im at 1066 but my record is 1082

[toxic plover]

Can I see your total stats?

[delicate kelp]

I think @random swallow is at 1070 something

[delicate kelp]

not online

I can show in an hour or so

[drowsy isle]

new bug found

https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/lKh67mWH7cJuPYcMp?invite=cr-MSxkRzMsNDU0NzA0MTE0

tom doesnt consent to hailey kb

[delicate kelp]

ok THATS IT

remove tom from the game

[drowsy isle]

nvm its slabs

and stairs

[polar gulch]

if youre on a non-full block you take no hailey shift kb

bottom stair/slab and prolly snow layers too

yep snow too

[drowsy isle]

yeah snow layers dont work

[polar gulch]

ladders work too yeah

[woeful apex]

shhhh dont leak the tech

[drowsy isle]

nah ladders u get moved

a tiny bit

[woeful apex]

(if you build another ult u can use two consequtively)

same works for yhaya

[polar gulch]

Buh

[drowsy isle]

carpet doesnt work yeah

[polar gulch]

carpets work

i mean

they block kb

[drowsy isle]

had a leaver + afk teammate and lost 3 sr anyways

gges

salt in the wound was that i was sent to eu as well

[delicate kelp]

unlucky

[toxic plover]

Wow

What was the highest SR from last year?

[drowsy isle]

last year sr system was some wack

[delicate kelp]

1861

[drowsy isle]

not remotely comparable to current sr system

[delicate kelp]

last year I was getting

+40 games 😭

[sand fiber]

the old one was a really wonky variation on elo

the new one uses bayesian skill distributions

[drowsy isle]

oh yeah sock werent u supposed to not lose sr if a teammate left

or is it cause opp team also had a leaver

[woeful surge]

Air shout mechanic ahh

(I don’t know but it looks like that)

[woeful surge]

The new one is pretty fair on +- rating but sometimes the team diff pmo

[drowsy isle]

you wanna see fair

https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/lKj0KyV0GakR56zG0?invite=cr-MSx6QWksNDU0NzA0MTE0&v=597

if the title didnt give it away

and a game loss

like yeah its better than last year

but like

[woeful surge]

No change insane

[pale ibex]

For some reasons, if you use dr leg mech ult after someone uses yahya ult into you, you can negate their ult

[polar gulch]

yeah it's the yahya ult escape strat

[sand fiber]

patch do be out chat

[worn wraith]

can the blizzard blaster get un-removed?

[sand fiber]

not my call sorry, i tried to fight for it to remain but was overruled

[worn wraith]

no worries

[past mortar]

oh blizzard blaster is gone?

[wraith lintel]

was it a lil too good for acro

[runic stratus]

Wait blizzard blaster was removed?

[stable karma]

It's just a vanity trinket now

With extremely minimal recoil

[grave umbra]

Wtf

[wraith lintel]

gg

[sullen sphinx]

8 seems really low

[past mortar]

no fun :(

[grave umbra]

@sand fiber can u at least add a refund trade for blizzy blasyers forna bit i highkey js bought a full page of them yesterday 😭

[sand fiber]

i've been told i can't sorry

[grave umbra]

Dam

Thats tiff

Tuff

Wybncraft occasikabl question balancing has hit the festivals 🥀

[past mortar]

hshshd djscheiwnfkdnsjz fjdnddjs e gjrn

[stable karma]

gadget creep must be stopped

[grave umbra]

:(

highkey valid but just doing it out of nowhere like this after its been in the game for a year is kind of annoying

but whatever i dont play the base game that much anyays 🥀

[stable karma]

this would only get worse the longer it is delayed

[grave umbra]

yeah

[ornate fulcrum]

new blizzard blaster

it doesnt even stop your fall

[grave umbra]

i m also just hella saltty cuz i just wasted a shit ton of frags

GOFOIEST vanity trinkett ever

[past mortar]

🤐

i shalt not speak about the gadget horrors i am comitting

[ornate fulcrum]

bet autosmord is using hover booster infinite flight trick

[stable karma]

this is what freefall clutch is for !

[ornate fulcrum]

you only got 7 hours to play with the old blaster

[woeful surge]

WHAT

[wraith lintel]

I like hover booster more ng;

i dont play acro

[grave umbra]

i highkey want t make a feeddback post about this but it was a reallgh good trinket

[past mortar]

… among other things

[grave umbra]

hoenslty it could have just used a longer cd soi at least it was sstill a useable trinket

that would have prob been better

[wraith lintel]

the WHAT

[ornate fulcrum]

iykyk

[wraith lintel]

if only i knew :/

[past mortar]

🤐

[ornate fulcrum]

sadly you will probably never

[delicate kelp]

wtf happened to blizzy blast?!?!?

who is to blame for this outrageous nerf

[orchid meadow]

😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[grave umbra]

#1452063907677077576 🤯 we complain here nistead

[feral hemlock]

millions flock under the war hardened cry of No Fun Allowed
how is that the response to so many changes

[wraith lintel]

Did not realize this many people felt so strongly about kb gun

[sand fiber]

ye please don't use this thread for bblaster discussion guys

[woeful surge]

🔫

[runic stratus]

wtf

[delicate kelp]

thread got locked already 😭

[sand fiber]

do not derail my thread with bblaster discussion

[delicate kelp]

those who brawl

yahya nerf is lovely btw

[lucid latch]

Didn’t look like all that much of a nerf, tbh

[delicate kelp]

less damage and way less self healing

with the healing for teammates getting buffed he feels like an actual support

[grave umbra]

Yeah the rsre pccasikna u heal your teamates it is nuts burst healing

[drowsy isle]

damage was cut so rn its 6/7 of what it was before

approx 14.3% dmg nerf

self sustain cut to 4/7

42.8% self sustain nerf

heals from shift no longer charges ult

[lucid latch]

Its damage was cut to what?

[drowsy isle]

from 7 to 6

so its 6/7 of what it was prenerf

basic math

keep up

[lucid latch]

It’s what?

Buhhhhh buyuuuuu

👹

[drowsy isle]

sih seh

[sand fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-gif-968943876633031890

[drowsy isle]

but yeah ult charge from normal shift interaction decreased by a whopping

57.8%

assuming m1 x5 into shift

[delicate kelp]

#BuffRickeo

[drowsy isle]

give rickeo a fire gun

and a fire spear

and a fire wand

[sand fiber]

i was gonna redo rickeo's ult at some point but idk if ill ever get around to it

[delicate kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-cat-by-demonwolf-wizard-cat-witch-cat-gif-597023371037854378

[drowsy isle]

ill try yahya out but im already feeling that the shift has to be changed

im thinking upon contact with allies/enemies, duration is extended a bit if its possible

that or healing hitbox is larger

[grave umbra]

Rickeo ult when i bug it in a floor and do a million dm

[drowsy isle]

rickeo ult when i biden blast li in the face to insta demech

[sand fiber]

it was gonna be like

a phoenix

which blinds people when it explodes

but i couldn't cook it up in a way that was nice

[drowsy isle]

mfw i disable the blind effects

[delicate kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/phoenix-jean-grey-marvel-animated-power-gif-17802383

[drowsy isle]

and it cant be like phoenix from marval rivals either acuse thats literally li mech ult

[delicate kelp]

would be cool

[drowsy isle]

oh wait

[sand fiber]

maybe not this big

[drowsy isle]

imagine it just gives him 1 extra life

[delicate kelp]

but you gotta admit

[sand fiber]

and then there was another idea to literally just import phoenix valorant's ult

[delicate kelp]

it would look sick

[drowsy isle]

oh idea

make it like clash royale phoenix

when u die u dont insta respawn, but rather become a little egg thing

[sand fiber]

i dont play clash

[delicate kelp]

I don't play valorant

what does it do

[drowsy isle]

if the egg is not destroyed, u full res

gives enemies more agency

tho

the issue is that respawn times are already so low

ig make it sombra translocator then + totem

[delicate kelp]

more time to stay on point 🙏

[drowsy isle]

place phoenix egg somewhere

when u die u respawn there

if egg is broken u dont respawn

[sand fiber]

i cant do non player hittables 😩

[drowsy isle]

but

theo shield?

[sand fiber]

thats hard coded

[drowsy isle]

is a non player hitable

damn

[sand fiber]

and is kind of like

an extension of theo's hitbox

[delicate kelp]

what does it do?? never played valorant

[drowsy isle]

10 second google

[sand fiber]

yeah that

[delicate kelp]

damn thats op

[grave umbra]

Nuts

[ornate fulcrum]

when game developers have to create a character named phoenix and theyre presented with the choice of full reset

[sand fiber]

but yeah

i have no compelling ideas for a replacement and the existing ult is likeee

fiiiiiiiiiine

[delicate kelp]

yeah its fine, easy way to just kill 1 person 😂

not every ult has to be special tbh

[drowsy isle]

oh wait

idea for the blind thing

[ornate fulcrum]

wait i didnt follow the conversation who needs what ult

[drowsy isle]

fireball above rickeo

if u look at it

take damage

so it doesnt literally blind but it in effectd oes that

[sand fiber]

anyway yeah im reasonably happy with most of the utls

[wraith lintel]

who are you least happy with, rickeo?

[ornate fulcrum]

volvo pls fix

[drowsy isle]

tbh if i had to pick a second ult im iffy about

[delicate kelp]

I still don't like yahya ult but should be fine now since all his other parts got nerfed

[drowsy isle]

its hailey

[delicate kelp]

high chance less people will be playing him