OFFICIAL Blizzard Brawl 2025 feedback thread

[drowsy isle]

Which refreshes

[woeful surge]

give any character that they will thank you

[unborn veldt]

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[unborn meadow]

Gotta trap people in backshots alley

[drowsy isle]

It is essentially infinite dura

[hollow basin]

Whats her passive again

[limpid ether]

🤨

[drowsy isle]

When hit 80% speed for 1s

[woeful surge]

1s 80% speed when hit

[steady venture]

1 second of 80% speed.. which always threw me off

[wraith lintel]

speed for 1 second when hit

4 responses

[hollow basin]

Oh yeah its kinda nice

[woeful surge]

Basically half gawrick

on a support

[hollow basin]

Let's me get away and behind corners

[steady venture]

i think it's just the entire And i'm suddenly fast thing

[woeful surge]

on hailey i just always find a chance to kb ppl out of the area
The speed helps very much on getting out of it after that

[unborn meadow]

One time I got kbd by Hailey and I thought I got hit by an irlock ult, had me hitting 2 walls and the roof of the arena

[polar gulch]

It's actually time for me to pack it up

I've gone on like a 15 game losing streak and I'm playing like i just started yesterday

[lucid latch]

Who has an ult that knocks you back into the abyss

[polar gulch]

the big kb one is irlok

[lucid latch]

I’ve caught myself from the knockback before, and it’s such a funny feeling flying back onto the stage with Yahya

[ornate fulcrum]

yahya's crouch mogging the entire game

[lucid latch]

And still taking the point after

700 sr games are so fun

[polar gulch]

wait for me, I'm coming down there (and fast)

[tepid wind]

this what i mean

its literally just a plain old movement ability

[steady venture]

people are saying "oh use the slam for movement the damage sucks" which to me, means the ability sucks

Charge makes sense as a movement.. The slam should be a surprise that starts a conflict, not just to get somewhere else

[tepid wind]

mfs acting like i want it to do 50 damage 💀

just increase the aoe atleast

so the damage part is existent idrc if it gets a base damage increase

i still think m1 is ass but its not gonna get changed cause conformation bias 🤪

[steady venture]

just give it the ability to be decent as a starting fight tool.

not just getting over a ledge.

Also the entire charge just stopping as if you slam in to a wall makes it stupid to use

[tepid wind]

it is if it hits

and the person isnt looking at you

[steady venture]

i landed on people and just thought "that felt like it did nothing"

[tepid wind]

cause it has a 2 block raidus and does 8 damage

its more if your in the air for longer but thats so situational

idk my issue isnt with the damage i think its good i just think working around his dogshit hit reg is ass

[steady venture]

yeah fair. Irlok i just. thought it'd be decent, but charge stopping as if you slam in to a wall. it essentially having two movement abilities just made me hate it

[limpid ether]

whats yahyas hitbox size for lmb

the fact that its hurtbox is out like frame 1 and however big it is you can just go inside/circle people to get easy d mg while they cant hit you some times its really annoying

[drowsy isle]

pre nerf theo be like

woe be the days of 2 block large m1 with 8 dmg per

I will say tho the projectile itself while it is active really soon

is like beyond ass to accurately aim beyond 5 blocks

[limpid ether]

do ou mean theos

cus y eah

anyways low key i think the speed is fine just nerf dmg or that hitbox

or speed of projectile

[drowsy isle]

yahya

theos is bad everywhere

[grave umbra]

Ive talked to my echo chamber*****

[tepid wind]

he needs an attack speed nerf lowkeyy

[grave umbra]

Idk if yahya needs anptjer nerf cuz i havent played on enugh new worlfs i think, but if anything it should be lmb dmg nerf to not hurt affliction stacking time

Idk will play game mor and see frfr

[limpid ether]

also nerf yahya and tom hp by 10 if yahya rmb isnt gonna be changed

[grave umbra]

Tom to 60 hp????

[limpid ether]

yeah

yahya to 70

[delicate kelp]

tried yahya after nerf in a bunch of games and he still seems way too good

[tepid wind]

i think he can get that nerf if they actually buff his support

and make him not a fake support

[delicate kelp]

or just lower his max stacks by 1 🤭

[limpid ether]

lol

[toxic plover]

Theorick’s projectiles are too hard to hit now. I think it would be good to go back to how it was before it was nerfed last year.

[tepid wind]

can we be on the same team if were are a party of 3 in pfinder

thanks

or 2

[regal tendon]

thats too op

[grave umbra]

yeah i agree woudl js be like idol 4 stacking

[tepid wind]

its bbrawl who cares

pfinder can handle it

[lucid latch]

Yeah, tbh, it is just a limited time mini game. Balancing makes it more fair and consistent, ofc, but it’s also just supposed to be fun

I’d love 5v5 on a bigger map

[ornate fulcrum]

5v5 guild blizzard brawl 2 class limit

[lucid latch]

Role queue

[tepid wind]

exactly

[ornate fulcrum]

blizzard brawl needs ragdolls so you can killbind in front of players and win the comedy award

[woeful apex]

Mythic trinket on ironman 🔥

[dapper prawn]

nice work, can you show what it does im curious

[wraith lintel]

second this, lets see the magic!

[woeful apex]

summons this lil guy

follows you around and stuff

p cool

[dapper prawn]

sheesh nice

probably a better use of shards than the 67 emote

[unborn veldt]

nothing is a better use of shards

[dapper prawn]

I bought all the trinkets with like 6 or 7 stacks leftover

I would grind shards on ironman but I dont have nearly enough inventory space

[grave umbra]

if id idnt bu y 67 i would have enoughf or mthic

[dapper prawn]

if it was a /emote id buy it

first ever mythic emote?

[grave umbra]

On my dog WE(YES YOU AND ME) need 67 and headspin emote in game

[drowsy isle]

https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/lInRmxcBGJS4B_Qmp?invite=cr-MSxHQWksNDU0NzA0MTE0&v=82

rickeo dash seems to completely fail if moving up or down small elevations prior to full activation post windup

the main culprit is snow

though stairs are also a problem

also theorick m1 is like the center 40% of the projectile

i get that it was insane last year being like 2 blocks large

but from 2 blocks down to like the size of yahya's ult is a bit overnerfed innit

which is sad seeing as how rickeo does decently well against the other 'problematic' characters

[sand fiber]

i didnt change the size of theo's projectile at all so im unsure where this has come from tbh lol

[drowsy isle]

leading to them feeling significantly stronger than they should be, if not for the fact that their counters/even matchups (rickeo vs: garwick/irlok/tom/yahya) (theorick vs tom/garwick/especially yahya) arent really playable

from last year?

[sand fiber]

nope

completely unchanged

[drowsy isle]

hold on lemme get a clip of the current m1

cause the outer 30% actually has no hitbox

https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/lIo6pQibMC_ipK2j2?invite=cr-MSxlSkEsNDU0NzA0MTE0&v=60

[wraith lintel]

i think im a rickeo fan rn

[drowsy isle]

rickeo is fine ish if his shift doesnt contact 1 layer of snow or smth

[wraith lintel]

i like the 'breathing' of his fire attacks as a contrast to Dr L's bullet rapping

[drowsy isle]

if it does there goes ur movement + uppercut

but yeah back to it

theo is in theory a pretty good unit

nice m2

nice shift

but m1 is just so incredibly hard to hit

[lucid latch]

It’s basically a snowball hitbox, tbh

It just moves really slowly, which makes consistently hitting afar really annoying

[dapper prawn]

day 1 Yahya main

never swapping

[woeful surge]

Global warming made theo’s m1 smaller

[drowsy isle]

looking at last years mentions of theorick and dang he was good

[lucid latch]

Is there a point to switching, if you’re peak with a character already

[feral hemlock]

for what it's worth hypothermic shield Is a very strong ability

[grave umbra]

shield and rmb hard cartry his kit yeah

[dapper prawn]

nah his kit is just too fun not to play

[drowsy isle]

lets see what changes theo got to his m1

ok apparently last year it moved way slower as a bug

thats probably what made it way easier to land

[toxic plover]

I believe it was bug fixed, not necessarily intentionally "nerfed". Either way it's a lot smaller and harder to hit than it used to be.

[drowsy isle]

Fixed to move at correct speed

I need to check later to see if the snowflake hitbox is actually like

The width of the snowflake itself

if it is that might be why it's so hard to hit

along with being thin, it has less time to contact the player

[toxic plover]

I'm pretty sure it was more than that.

[drowsy isle]

hey he made the game so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I'm just reporting what I could find in the changelogs

[toxic plover]

Maybe. It's been a while since last blizzard, but it just feels much worse than just a speed change. They definitely felt a lot thinner after that.

[drowsy isle]

yeah its weird how much he's fallen off

i think most characters have only gotten nerfed since last year

exception being like

garwick

so in theory he should be better by proxy of being unchanged

tho the fact of the matter is that he cant reliably duel yahya due to cheeks m1 hitreg

and yahya can freely pressure him to death

[wraith lintel]

its normal that rickeo's end of dash fire blast circle ends up behind me a lot, right?

[drowsy isle]

that fire blast i believe is completely cosmetic

oh wait i see now

the end dash

hm

well anyhow yeah i normally see it behind

[toxic plover]

Gawrick can easily just stay out of yahya's range and whittle him down.

Time to charge gleamsphere to max: 5s->4s

Question. Does this mean his m2's max damage is also lower since the time to charge is lower? Or is it explicitly a straight buff?

[drowsy isle]

alr this wasnt a documented change so either its shadow change or the wiki was always wrong

wiki lists theo at 8 dmg per m1

rn hes 6

also range is less than 20 blocks but like its 18 and its close enough + its never hitting

[toxic plover]

It was nerfed some time during the first blizzard brawl.

[woeful surge]

https://medal.tv/zh-Hant/games/minecraft/clips/lIpACiX9pri5Qky6K?invite=cr-MSx4WVMsNDU5MzgwNTQ2&v=13
@sand fiber weird suffocate death? i can not think of anyelse that killed me

blood pressure +100

[sand fiber]

wow I have no idea

you might've been clipped on top of a barrier block in the stairs

which insta kills

I think that's most likely

[drowsy isle]

maybe the tp into the thing counted as a wall slam?

i could see that

wait nvm that was from 68 to 0

[grave umbra]

Silly

[woeful surge]

silly barrier

[grave umbra]

Also @sand fiber using mech ult and gettin pulled by gawrick ukt before u are fully airborne bugs the rocket out and makes it stay in place, and u js see the rocket dmg text on your sxreen instead of mech integrity/heli stacks for the rest of the game

[sand fiber]

fucked up

[grave umbra]

And using it while bejng dmged by the gawrikc ult just sends it flyijg away wiith u dismounted which prob is less importsnt and not the biggest bug but yeah

[woeful surge]

Magic vs Technology

[woeful surge]

i cant

1v3

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1349676048639594559/1448654122965536953/1.gif

[grave umbra]

:(

@pseudo stream why u so mean

[pseudo stream]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1162564880583381133/1301423238840061952/watermark.gif

[pseudo stream]

I’m not mean

I’m jolly

[grave umbra]

@robust dagger are they jolly?

[robust dagger]

@grave umbra can confirm they are an un jolly fellow

coal in their stockings

[grave umbra]

I gave them dr legendarh backshots and theu died so they arent jolly

[solid ocean]

if you use guided missile while dizzy from yahya ult u can escape it

[wraith lintel]

feels good to fire some balls after losing a game of BB

theorick buff

[grave umbra]

O ueah this too its very funny

[wraith lintel]

does gleamsphere start at 6 damage/3 heal, or does it only increase by those amounts per second

if you just spam gleamsphere at minimum and get off at least two per second, wouldn't that be better

[clear spear]

Yahya still needs about 50% more nerfs

[lucid latch]

Please, don’t nerf him to be balanced, he’s so fun

[random swallow]

i love garwick

[grave umbra]

Gawrick playstyke prefers doing burst dmt and then fucking off with ws/tp or whatver anyway

[unborn meadow]

curse of garwick

[grave umbra]

I think the hitbox is a little funnt anyway so it woukdnt be super ideal

[random swallow]

i love garwick

[grave umbra]

I HATE garlik

[random swallow]

[grave umbra]

EVIL randkm 30 dmg nuking mymech

[wraith lintel]

it turns out it does 0 damage before second 1

[grave umbra]

Epik

[wraith lintel]

whats wrong with this image

answer

[grave umbra]

@austere owl you

Those who mech ult rjght before grtting pukled by garlick

[regal tendon]

Garlic

[lucid latch]

Is this good

[regal tendon]

13 min game duration what

[grave umbra]

+27

who did cro fight to steal allat elo 🥀

[lucid latch]

Lmao

Idk, I think Goosecore was in that game

[grave umbra]

truly stealing all the elo from monkeykapaa frfr

[lucid latch]

Lmao, they were the only one to kill me

All 15 of those were them

I’m at 821, now, idk how good that is

[grave umbra]

commonm monkey kapa w

[lucid latch]

We love the triple Yahya boom

[wraith lintel]

three big booms

[lucid latch]

BOOM 🍄 BOOM 🍄‍🟫 BOOOOOM

[compact oak]

They should add a gibbing sound when you kill someone

[grave umbra]

What os a gibing soun

[robust dagger]

splatter sound

of the visceral remnants...

[grave umbra]

New cosmstic

[robust dagger]

of your opponents

[grave umbra]

Gg

[lucid latch]

Gibby sound

[limpid ether]

yeah gawrick yahya need a nerf

i feel like every meta team rn is yahya gawrick at least

it makes it if your random runs anything but that or isn't the best you just get stomped trying to get rid of gawrick
like gawrick def hp nerf maybe tom too
yahya just needs rmb toned down

[grave umbra]

unironically triple support isnt even that bad rn cuz a good yahya/gawrick can self sustainf or so long that the occassional hailey heal/ult can just sustain them for so long 😭

gawrick being able to run away so fast and reaction tp away and not give u another good oppurtunity to catch them off guard until their tps are back off cooldown is so annoying its actually such rag ebait to try and kill a good gawrick if theres other competent enemies on point

[past mortar]

why do supports have competent if not straight up good dps capabilities

[grave umbra]

kind of bc of this swhich makes sense

[limpid ether]

i think its fun they can have that but they gotta be squishy to compensate

[past mortar]

i get that it just feels like the support dps could easily have worse dps and better healing or support and still be completely fine

[limpid ether]

like 80 hp gawrick

should be 70

straight up

[past mortar]

100%

[limpid ether]

@sand fiber take notes

with that survialbility gawrick does not need 80 hp

dmg is fine and the tp / portal is annoying but whatever

those are my garlic thoughts

[lucid latch]

I thought Gawrick was difficult to hit, but then I realized that projectiles are delayed, and snow ball sized, which means I can basically guarantee hits by delaying my momentum and aiming 2 blocks to the side of everyone

[limpid ether]

i mean i can harass em on li

and time my mech rmb to combo and slow em

causing em to panic

or human rmb to barrage and hover to follow

i can't speak for other classes tho besidesmaybe rikeo and whip timing but that sucks lol

[lucid latch]

Yahya mushroom boom behind a pillar before I charge a dash on Yahya, and have em run into it thinking they escaped

[limpid ether]

yeah shroom bomb like

too much dmg for its range

oh and the tiny hitbox

[lucid latch]

Fucking LOVE tossing a bomb over the wall in center, and then leading them wherever they think I’m going

[limpid ether]

make it glowing maybe

[grave umbra]

yeah i can get like two or 3 mech hits max on pqche and make her spend like 10s getting health packs but half the time i am not killing her bruih 😭

[limpid ether]

idk i feel like lowering hp is a must

[grave umbra]

or i can try to harass and finish her off with heli but she can js tp away or whatever and its cooked

[limpid ether]

idk about nerfing other parts of gawrick

lest we forget b4 the buffs he sucked a lot

[grave umbra]

yeah

[lucid latch]

Tbh, Yahya’s dash is just really good. And nerfing it, beyond healing and a bit of damage, is just super damaging to the class, because then it only really has the melee.

I HATE the ult, I cannot hit it

I don’t even use it anymore

[limpid ether]

dash is fine i just liked my healing hitbox idea better

[grave umbra]

yahya ult is js weird to hit but it kind of has to be cuz it is so nuts as butts

[limpid ether]

yahya just needs rmb nerf and its way less potent

its like

frame 1 hitbox 5 dmg

pretty big

spammable

[lucid latch]

Idk what the ult is even like, because I’ve never been hit by it

[limpid ether]

doesn't decay until hitting ground

its like if dr li mech rmb was fast n shit

[limpid ether]

backrooms

[lucid latch]

A 13 minute game full of point blank ults, and none of them hit

Like, why even bother lmao

[limpid ether]

when it hits it can be good

[grave umbra]

lmb is kind of high dps and rmb is just weirdly high radius that is TINY and not easily seen and wallbangs so u have to guess if u are in radius or not

[limpid ether]

a time out corner for em

can easily capture a point with a forced 2v3 for 10-14 seconds

[limpid ether]

yeah

[lucid latch]

It’s a super handy prediction tool, too, because of all its utility

Dash scares so easily, and melee is so quick up close

[grave umbra]

yeah it is way too easy to use as prediction tool cuz the radius isnt shown, actual bomb itself is tiny(and also hard to tell if its your teams or not), and it wallbangs

like mech rmb predicting is much harder/annoying bomb predictt is the freest thing ever if any of thesse things i mentioned were changed that would be an epik win

for a gawrick nerfuhh i lowkey got no clue waht to do without makign it feel like butts brah

like u could nuke some speed after using a tp but t hat would feel like buns

higher cd wouldnt solve the prpoblem of gawrikc jsut running around and being annoying, and also w ould feel bad

reduced healing could work cuz it is lowkeys trong but they could still just tp onto health packs anyways and denying hp packs on some points is really annoying/not worth it as a non gawrick

@random swallow how would u nerf gawrick as gawlick b=player

[limpid ether]

besides hp?

i think hp is best route

[grave umbra]

oh true hp nerf

[limpid ether]

gawrick has 80 hp bro

they dont need that much with so much survialbility

[grave umbra]

that would prob work

[limpid ether]

gawricks kit is weird but if we aren't gonna rework stuff like portal orw /e

[grave umbra]

yueah

[limpid ether]

don't touch dmg or cooldowns or walkspeed

just hp

[grave umbra]

pure numbers game i think slightly reducing ws and hp or hpr would be best

[limpid ether]

ws idk numbers so i can't comment

im still on the fence for a tom nerf

like hp but thatw ould leave em with 60 which is

very squishy

[grave umbra]

yeah that might eb tooooo low

[limpid ether]

idk i feel like tom needs a small nerf

but i am also biased

[grave umbra]

me too tom is EVIL vs li

[past mortar]

make rickeo do infinite damage right now

[limpid ether]

rikeo needs love

i want to play em but

they are just worse yahya

[past mortar]

much

[limpid ether]

i think whip needs to be faster

[past mortar]

🥀

[limpid ether]

i wanna bring people TO me

faster

maybe more velocity

[grave umbra]

wajht abt the shift cast for rickeo doomish keeps complaing abt it

[past mortar]

even then whip feels like a detriment to use

[grave umbra]

dam i should have clipped more games i only have like 2 useable clips 🥀

[past mortar]

you have so little hp and dont regen enough

[grave umbra]

i got so many nastyu double kills with evil roof tech today and i js didnt clpi

[past mortar]

90% of the time you can afford to bring someone to your face

cuz youre not strong enough to win a 1v1 against them

[limpid ether]

yeah it sucks

besides being insta

compared to yahya its just

you dont want it

[past mortar]

like best u can do is pull a theo or hailey

[robust dagger]

Evil rocket man

I heard you camp with the dr legendary rocket

Is this true

[lucid latch]

I haven’t even read what the other characters can do. I went straight to Yahya, and started watching from there

[sullen sphinx]

Eviltown!!

[grave umbra]

Wha dih u mean by thi

[robust dagger]

U stay alive by moving around on the rocket and holding the area

is this real and true,

[past mortar]

doesnt count as u being in area while in that ult

[robust dagger]

We can blizzy brawl tomorrow twin

[grave umbra]

i think it counts if u are super clos tot he ground

but its not worth setting up most of th time

[robust dagger]

I have been disinformed wtf!!

[grave umbra]

i do circle in the middle of the point tho

[past mortar]

thats poop

[grave umbra]

i want to test it o ut but i need 4 people and i keep forogin

who wanna test rn!

[past mortar]

🛌

[sullen sphinx]

Lets go!!

I need my op cheater duo back

[robust dagger]

I am Santa and I can confirm you are not asleep rn

[grave umbra]

this is like wha ti iusuually try to od

but i tihk u need to be lower than i am in t he clip

[robust dagger]

You are awake

[past mortar]

but im in bed

[grave umbra]

video will load when wynndata loads

[wraith lintel]

holy cow this is goals

[robust dagger]

Santa senses toggle between awake and asleep

It’s not that accurate

[wraith lintel]

autosmord in bed? time to queue BB without getting my shit rocked

[past mortar]

😭

[grave umbra]

highkey half the time i use mech ult i just slam into a wall and die 😭

or lose my entie mech

im kind of ass at using it 😭

at least theres no tiem limit on how long u can be on the mech(for some reasno)

but when it does work 😎

[wraith lintel]

Now that I've played other classes, it's clear Dr L is such a tough target

[past mortar]

yeah li is crazy

[wraith lintel]

The guy enough sustain to fight back an entire team

[lucid latch]

Dang, this looks fun, too

But Yahya is just so funny

[past mortar]

he can be shut down pretty quickly but he’s threatening while active

[grave umbra]

only when t he other team is full of idiots(ie that clip)

[past mortar]

yahya and tom are really good counters to li

[wraith lintel]

holup lemme find myself there

[random swallow]

Uh

Prob max hp

[past mortar]

irlok does well against him too

[grave umbra]

most of the meta/popular classes can counter him

[lucid latch]

Yahya can literally just tap him 3 times, and chase him up to completely avoid all damage

[grave umbra]

but tom yahya and garlick are all liek the super good counters to him

[past mortar]

balanced!

[robust dagger]

Yahya ban for fun

[wraith lintel]

reminder as to who hits Dr L much freeer

[random swallow]

I mean garwick and li match up is kinda even I think

[past mortar]

i dont find gawrick to be that bad against li

[grave umbra]

i might also be kidn of bricking against pqche

[random swallow]

It depends on the player

[grave umbra]

so yeah

[past mortar]

if you can land a rocket it shuts down gawrick a lot

[random swallow]

The garwick has to be good at predicting the Li and vice versa

So I think it’s pretty fair

[past mortar]

my li is racist against peach

[lucid latch]

Then again, you have to not be a brainless thumb sucking amoeba to even think of that, which the vast majority of Wynn is not ready to evolve from

[grave umbra]

in my experience u cna hit them like two tiems in mech and t hen t hey can jsut tp or run away

[random swallow]

You’re just racist

[past mortar]

i might be

[grave umbra]

and then u can try to pepper them down with heli if they r low but yeah

[random swallow]

I think garwick is in a good spot rn, maybe can be knocked down to 70 hp but he’s not really a dominating force rn

[grave umbra]

kind of fucke dup matchup it is a big wast eof time and u can jsut get nuked out of your mech/get your mech nuked very easily

[random swallow]

I’m just the garwick

[wraith lintel]

Dr Li is just the doomfist of this game kinda imo

Fun AF to play, rough to play against

[grave umbra]

yeah im just gettting ragebaited by pqche 🥀

[lucid latch]

BB is making me wanna play OW

But, then I think about how OW doesn’t have Yahya

[random swallow]

Sorry u like scream in vc very obviously when ur out of mech bro

[grave umbra]

🔥

[lucid latch]

And then, you realize how important unit feel is in a game

[grave umbra]

im pro

[past mortar]

doesnt help that theo is just not an appealing pick in comparison

such a pitifully weak melee and very hefty cooldowns. the bubble is super good but when its not up theo is just so ass

[wraith lintel]

become a streamer and make millions

[random swallow]

Please just give Yahya shift an anticipation sound

All I need

[random swallow]

Theo just feels bleugghhh

Both ways

[past mortar]

yeah

[random swallow]

As and against

[lucid latch]

Like, a character doesn’t need to be busted, as long as playing as them feels enticing. Playstyle, general look, potential meme, weird fantasy (), whatever

[past mortar]

so shit

[robust dagger]

If only icicle javelin cd was js a little lower…

[random swallow]

Why doesn’t theorick the ice guy slow????

[wraith lintel]

does theo need more bubble uptime? Yes.
will it suck nuts for the enemy team? Also yes

[past mortar]

basic attack needs to do more too

[robust dagger]

Irlok when I make 10 banging noises per second

[wraith lintel]

ult does!!

[robust dagger]

I think ts js me but its so painfully slow

[random swallow]

And yet dr li rocket slow will happen more often

[past mortar]

well maybe thats okay because theo has important matchups against certain characters who dont have much contesting them otherwise

[random swallow]

💔

[lucid latch]

Like, I would never play as Theorick, tbh, because Theorick is just kinda a lame dude. Ik he’s got a lot of good, but Yahya and Hailey are just such appropriate examples for good unit feelers

[wraith lintel]

thats honestly hilarious

[lucid latch]

Same with Irlok

[random swallow]

Me when I charge up full blast and then bubble

[wraith lintel]

Theorick as a character concept has so much aura

but his kit isn't doing him JUSTICE

[past mortar]

theo and LI should have a more proper comparison in terms of which to use

atm LI is just the “if you dont pick this youre throwing” tank whereas theo is the opposite

[lucid latch]

Irlok giving me the best feeling ever when watching them wiggle around and bang they pan

[wraith lintel]

Both the tanks have peak character coices

[robust dagger]

Can we bring back theo team kill 5 times in a row while remaining at max hp

[past mortar]

oh and theo’s passive

holy FUCK its so bad

[robust dagger]

He has a passive?

[wraith lintel]

okay so about the passive

[random swallow]

Theo has a passive?

[past mortar]

character that does 2 dps has a “effect on kill” passive

[random swallow]

HAHHAHAA

[wraith lintel]

i THINK its only bad because he just doesn't have enough kill power

[past mortar]

worst passive by so much

[past mortar]

yeah

its good in theory

[wraith lintel]

if m1 gets good, it becomes fantasmo

[past mortar]

but not only does he have negative dps

but he also has to land the final kill

[lucid latch]

Who up boomin they shroom rn

[past mortar]

there isnt any kill credit system for it

[robust dagger]

It used to be better just cuz he did more damage

[random swallow]

Assists should be a thing

[robust dagger]

I only play pre-made and they always ban yahya

[past mortar]

so based

fuck yahya

[random swallow]

Yahya sounds pmo

Please change the sounds

🥀

[wraith lintel]

shit is canon

[random swallow]

Canon pmo

[robust dagger]

Frying pan in blizzy brawl

[lucid latch]

Do not change anything about Yahya beyond maybe a 6-7 damage/heal from dash

[lucid latch]

Who up frying they pan rn

[robust dagger]

@grave umbra is the pirate cannon disabled in blizzy brawl

[wraith lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/gioated-family-guy-peter-griffin-crazy-straightjacket-gif-20619219

[random swallow]

Pirate canon fixed

[grave umbra]

its fixed

[random swallow]

All over

It’s gone

[grave umbra]

and it also didnt work last year in bb

[random swallow]

:(

[robust dagger]

I know that 1 harmony is not the most optimal but it’s so satisfying…

[wraith lintel]

are we thinking yahya nerf for low damage high healing (6/7 or possibly 5/7)

is the pain point the heal or the damage

[past mortar]

brain rot irlok gameplay

[past mortar]

damage fs

[robust dagger]

The self heals are really op too

[wraith lintel]

duality of brawler

[lucid latch]

It’s both

[grave umbra]

67 would be SOOOO funny on yahya

[past mortar]

lol

[grave umbra]

pPLEASEEEE SOCK

[past mortar]

idk its a combo of like

[wraith lintel]

shit is getting vetoed at the CT meetup

[random swallow]

Just give the shift first press an anticipation sound that’s ALL I WANT PLEASE

[lucid latch]

4-20 damage range seems fitting, too

[robust dagger]

But like the bang bang bang bang bang sound is so fun

[grave umbra]

like 20 dmg max stack suhhhh mabye not twin

[robust dagger]

And u are always hopping around

[wraith lintel]

the joke is good but the reality is world ending

[lucid latch]

Truly, this is the only compromise

[wraith lintel]

5 stacks + even one stack kills Dr L outright

[random swallow]

Mix it up with a garwick running around with frying pan

[past mortar]

basic attack has super high rof so even if the damage is low it racks up damage super quickly

you can just shift whenever you feel like making a full-on 180 of who is winning a given fight when you’re low

so yeah its p much both. its really frustrating considering the cooldown is super low for how high impact the ability is, all with not very much set-up time or effort either

[wraith lintel]

introducing yahya brawl

[robust dagger]

I had 1 good garwick game

Not locked in enough for ts

[past mortar]

and yahya’s support is like. mid at best? maybe?

[wraith lintel]

it was when I was playing with you trust

[random swallow]

Garwick my beloved

[past mortar]

yahya is just a dps character, doesnt feel like support at all

[wraith lintel]

i bring out the best/worst in people

[past mortar]

yahya’s ally healing is SUPER clunky and just doesnt really work in practice

[robust dagger]

The proceeding yahya game was lowk a massive blunder

[random swallow]

What brings out the worst in me is a racist Tom solo ulting me 5 times in a row

[robust dagger]

but the irlok game after that was crazy!!

[lucid latch]

Should’ve replaced straight damage with debuffs like weakness, poison, and slowness

[past mortar]

the bomb is just used for dps. if you consume stacks with the bomb you lose damage so people use it before stacking the effects

[lucid latch]

Maybe that’d be more support

[robust dagger]

My bad for walking in that general direction

[wraith lintel]

What I think I love the most about getting into BB is watching the Overwatch main effect take place in this micro-ecosystem of a minigame

[random swallow]

WHY IS THE BOMB 7 RADIUS

[past mortar]

no fall off either

[lucid latch]

Bro had an actual Uncle Tom in game

[random swallow]

My bad for breathing Tom I’m sorry I’m a minority 🥀

[past mortar]

should’ve rr at birth

[wraith lintel]

insu

[limpid ether]

blizzard brawl

[wraith lintel]

yahya with glasses

[robust dagger]

Getting a kill of someone behind one of those pillars is satisfying tho

Does it really matter…

[limpid ether]

so true

[past mortar]

at the very least the bomb should do less damage the further you are away from it

[robust dagger]

I suppose

[random swallow]

It can be 5 and still hit, or should be bigger than a TINY MUSHROOM

[past mortar]

it feels so cheap to take 16 from something i am not close to

[robust dagger]

But there is no direct hit effect

[lucid latch]

I thought the anticipation sound was the 2 second shift

[robust dagger]

Unlike the Li mech attack

I think 10 was ok

[wraith lintel]

chat theorick buff should be his ult becoming 40 of them and instantly stun locking and killing everyone within 8 blocks radius like mei overwatch

[random swallow]

There’s no sound when that happens noticeably, it’s only audible upon yknow movement

[robust dagger]

The real weapon is the lag

[random swallow]

If it’s gonna be 7, visual should be bigger

[past mortar]

can we just put the “gain 100% ult charge” npc in the middle of every point that exclusively i can interact with and nobody else

[robust dagger]

Visual is cool too

[wraith lintel]

walk up to npc
spam right click
hold F

profit

[random swallow]

Racism

[lucid latch]

A sound would be nice, ict of anything against it lol

[limpid ether]

what if ONLY my mech ult explodes and bans everyone in its radius

[past mortar]

autosmord passive

ults deal 500x damage to any player with username “Pqche”

[limpid ether]

including me

[past mortar]

YEAH!!!

[random swallow]

RACISM???

[wraith lintel]

save it for the Moderator class in 2026

[limpid ether]

those w ho moderate

[lucid latch]

I’m shocked Nick isn’t an option in BB

[robust dagger]

Ho ho ho just like Santa claus

[feral hemlock]

waiting for another brawl game
surely this time I won't crash out after dying once

[lucid latch]

Make Yahya DPS, and Nick the next tank, with the new support in uhhhh

[past mortar]

Salted

[robust dagger]

I was playing a irlok vs tom game shit was not fun

[lucid latch]

Lmao, what if it was just Grian

Or a disgusting hybrid of the 3 originals

[feral hemlock]

raid keeper npc

[robust dagger]

My teammate was a garwick running around doing nothing </3

[random swallow]

Not me I would never

[feral hemlock]

ultimate is an upgraded version of Bad Trip that sends the entire enemy team into a single TNA run

[random swallow]

Surely

[past mortar]

that reminds me of someone who i am racist towards

[robust dagger]

As long as it’s not me

[random swallow]

RACISM

[robust dagger]

Garwick can counter bad trip 👽

Kinda goofy

also I drank a pot while inside the bad trip area

[past mortar]

does your username have 5 letters, start with P and ends with qche?

[robust dagger]

also silly

[robust dagger]

Hmm…

I do t think so…?

[past mortar]

then i am not racist towards you! yay!

[past mortar]

😡😡😡😡😡😡

I have a LI rocket shaped derogatory word that is headed straight towards your speed stat

[robust dagger]

Evil garwick main uses left click

How will you respond??

[past mortar]

It does not work

i wait out the tp

and then i strike

no one is safe

[lucid latch]

P5lettersqche?

[past mortar]

yeah!!

[wraith lintel]

Moderator - Tank

Ban Hammer - Left Click
Damage: 12 per sec
Range: 3 blocks

Gaius's Confirmation - Right Click
Fire a medium ranged projectiles, applying Warning.

Scooter Scoot- Shift
Move quickly forward along blocks on the ground.
Range: 10 blocks

Temp Mute - F
Activate ultimate by pressing F. After a short delay, enemies in an area hit by a mute, preventing them from using abilities
Duration: 5 seconds
0.8x Multipler

Passive - Warning
Warning an enemy causes them to take 1.5x damage from you for 2 seconds.

Did I cook

[robust dagger]

What if gaius applied warning stacks and scooter scoot dealt damage and healed based on warning stacks

Temp mute would lock up the player

[wraith lintel]

great minds think alike or something

[robust dagger]

and make them unavailable in battle for a few seconds

[wraith lintel]

sounds a little out there

[robust dagger]

yea

genius at work here!!

[wraith lintel]

might mess with game balance a little tbh

[robust dagger]

For the melee I think the hammer can be thrown for better effect

Maybe 5 damage?

For the extra range

[wraith lintel]

you might be on to something

[feral hemlock]

for the very first time I played garlic and it didn't feel

terrible to do
inevitably harder to play as a support due to how Funny his projectiles are and the fact that teammates are always slipping and sliding around in their own ways

[lucid latch]

We’d need a minimum threshold for warnings, though, because then you could just spam it on 1 warning. Maybe 3-5?

[wraith lintel]

the fact that garlic has speed aura is so cool, but how to utilize it with teammates

I keep running past them, getting POV change from speed, the losing it

[robust dagger]

Lol

[robust dagger]

Oh true but I think it should have a base damage and then scale with stacks

[feral hemlock]

given that the garlic playstyle involves wildly running around the perimeter of the point to periodically throw gleamspheres into the center fray
probably not easy

[lucid latch]

I see the potential, can’t wait to see this next year

[wraith lintel]

i completely forgot to write in that you can only have one Warning active on a player at a time

to offset this exact dang issue

this is a belle from brawl stars reference

[robust dagger]

when are we getting a sniper…

[lucid latch]

Doesn’t help when theragun just throws a big ass ice orb and invalidates your work

[robust dagger]

I need to land headshots

[feral hemlock]

tom 2

[robust dagger]

Tom is mid range

I need to kill people from the safety of my base

[feral hemlock]

I'll be honest there's no way that someone's getting value out of a Long Range Attack at point A/E

[feral hemlock]

GET ON THE POINT!!!!!!!!!! WE ARE LOSING!!!!

[robust dagger]

U could be on the stairs

[robust dagger]

Yea that’s probably why such characters don’t exist

Although

Tom

Shooting you from that ledge

And you playing as irlok

Makes u want to jump off the map

[lucid latch]

What of Richard, I heard he was good last year

[feral hemlock]

naively walking up the left bridge to the middle point only to get shot 48 times in the chest by Tom

[robust dagger]

me when I am trying to walk but the stupid Tom ult had other plans

[feral hemlock]

to be honest I've never quite understood why theorick has the passive he does
35 overhealth on kill implying that this a tank more similar to herbert or rickeo where they're constantly in the fight taking pressure and putting out damage

though the rest of the kit is kinda whatever on damage and serves more to push off the enemy team

[grave umbra]

theo 🥀

[feral hemlock]

truth be told if rickeo didn't already have the "heal burn damage dealt" as a passive I wouldn't be shocked if he had the 35 overhealth on kill effect

[wraith lintel]

when the poke tank gets the kill passive

but well

he should be in there

bubble dancing

spearing

[feral hemlock]

ok I suppose but

poke tank

bottom text

[wraith lintel]

he isnt really

not enough shielding to say that

[drowsy isle]

2 cents coming in here

I don't think yahya should be nerfed just yet until Theo is buffed

Theo is a good matchup against yahya but rn is a bit ass

[lucid latch]

What does theragun do, again? I’ve only seen the giant ice orb

[drowsy isle]

if yahya is nerfed to currently be balanced, when Theo is inevitably buffed, yahya goes below balanced

Shift for shield

M2 for spear that stuns as projectile

m1 is yahya m1 but so so much worse

https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/lIo6pQibMC_ipK2j2?invite=cr-MSxlSkEsNDU0NzA0MTE0&v=60

like look at these m1 hitboxes dawg

[lucid latch]

It’s just a snow ball, made infinitely more misleading by the huge model

[feral hemlock]

weren't lying
that really is a snowball

[drowsy isle]

except it doesn't even have the fire rate of a snowball 🥀

and either it was shadow nerfed or it wasn't listed by name when it was nerfed

I could only find one change for Theo m1 and it was to speed up the projectile

since it was slow due to a bug

[grave umbra]

fr mos tuseless passive and it runs out os fast

[drowsy isle]

but I found clips of it doing 8 dmg per m1

and old wiki lists it at 8

currently it's 6

And on paper if a yahya dueled a theo

[past mortar]

im just really good at dodging sorry

[drowsy isle]

if they both hit every shot

[lucid latch]

Ig it’s okay as a close range melee lol

[drowsy isle]

theo wins 100 out of 100 times

nah it's not even good as a close melee

[lucid latch]

Just hard to aim it with a model like that

[drowsy isle]

it's that hard to hit

Like look at the further end of the clip

[grave umbra]

close meele character when 6 dmg slow snowballl 😇

[lucid latch]

There’s this delay a lot of melee attacks have in BB that makes you literally need to track where your momentum goes and account for the speed of the projectile at the same item, basically having you track a block or two to the side of your intended target. That always makes it way easier for me to calculate when a projectile might hit

Theorick specifically looks like you’ll need to exclusively do this, no matter how close

[drowsy isle]

except yahya does not have the same problem

you'd imagine it would

considering how similar the projectiles are

but nah in melee it is far more accurate

[lucid latch]

Yahya doesn’t because their projectile actually has gravity. Because Theorick doesn’t, I’m assuming it’s screwing with how the hitbox falls

[drowsy isle]

(also the fact that so many abilities can go through Theo shield is criminal)

I know I just said don't need yahya till Theo is fixed

but like

garwick can tp into the shield

(fair enough)

[lucid latch]

Yahya’s momentum is also super easy to screw up farther away. You need like 3 blocks of space to the side of em to actually hit a player 4-5 blocks away

[drowsy isle]

yahya can shift into the shield

(why can he do that)

li can slam into the shield

(gg youre instantly forced out)

[lucid latch]

Yamakha fly like that, screw theragun

[drowsy isle]

the only way to play theorick and succeed right now

is against like

a tom irlok rickeo comp

[past mortar]

theo should in theory have really good matchups but instead does fuck all and dies

[drowsy isle]

if one of them runs like li or yahya you're instantly cooked because they can for the most part just ignore your shield

[drowsy isle]

yeah this

shield needs to actually deny the movement abilities from entering consistently (garwick again can get a pass ig cause he teleports)

[lucid latch]

3 dps 😭

[drowsy isle]

yep

[lucid latch]

Team of cavemen

[wraith lintel]

overwatch no limits ahh comp

[drowsy isle]

or like tom/irlok/rickeo/hailey

maybe garwick

[lucid latch]

What does Hailey do again

She heals and knocks back?

[drowsy isle]

yeah

heals get blocked by shield at least

[lucid latch]

She has this candy cane shot thing that I’m never even noticing

[drowsy isle]

2 dmg/heals per

burst of 4

[wraith lintel]

hailey is so nice to play ngl

[lucid latch]

That explains it

[feral hemlock]

healshooter healer attack
overhealth medkit
knockback cannon
teamwide 40 health heal and 2 seconds invincibility (very good :D)

[wraith lintel]

relatively calm

[past mortar]

i’d agree with hailey if theo didnt immediately fucking explode upon 1 unfavourably placed hailey shift

[drowsy isle]

also whenever she gets hit she gets 80% speed for 1s

was getting to that

[lucid latch]

She seems pretty easy, but I haven’t read her stuff, just watched what she does

[drowsy isle]

only thing with Hailey rn

[past mortar]

also hailey can just

[drowsy isle]

is how inconsistent shift is

[past mortar]

throw the food

into the shield

which is like

?

[drowsy isle]

eh she can have that ig

she can't heal through it

[lucid latch]

Is that what the food on the ground is lol

[past mortar]

yes

its super good

[drowsy isle]

and having it bounce off and like slide to the floor might be weird to code

[past mortar]

gives 35 temp hp

[past mortar]

ig

[lucid latch]

Istg Yahya is just a solo class that supports on accident. I spend half my time setting up 2-3 kills in a point

[wraith lintel]

gawrick

but yeah

[lucid latch]

I haven’t a clue what Gawrick does, other than he can throw a black hole

[wraith lintel]

haileys our only pocket type mass healer

[lucid latch]

I got caught by it once, and it did nothing lol

[wraith lintel]

he's a healer like a reddit lucio is a healer

if you play OW

[lucid latch]

Never touched the game

[drowsy isle]

garwick m1 tp on like a 7s cd, 12 dmg 12 heals when passing through enemies/allies

[lucid latch]

That seems fairly goated

[past mortar]

gawrick can at least heal without the need of other enemies. makes it feel much more supporty

[drowsy isle]

m2 initiates a charge beam, 6 dmg base +6 every second charge for up to 5s

[past mortar]

yahya just feels like a dps that can heal on accident

[drowsy isle]

when released is fired as a non wall bang piercing shot that moves like at same speed as tom shift

[wraith lintel]

4 seconds now iirc

[lucid latch]

Lifesteal because you have to get so close, ig

[drowsy isle]

no drop off

[lucid latch]

A vampire class kinda lol

[drowsy isle]

heals allies for 50% of what the dmg would be

[past mortar]

yeah and your yahya just doesnt end up playing around that

because why would they when they can just kill everyone

[drowsy isle]

shift gives you a like 40 block range teleporter that can be placed on air or even straight up

lasts for like 5s

11s cd

passive is gain walk speed and aoe heals the longer you hold w

[past mortar]

yahya is not encouraged to play around teammates like, at all

[wraith lintel]

passive is that sprinting gives him up to 40% speed and 1 hp per second healing aura the longer he moves

[drowsy isle]

like riftwalker

[wraith lintel]

and ult is a black hole that after 3ish seconds, locks everyone in LOS and pull them in

dealing some damage

[drowsy isle]

is mainly played as a backline shredder who can heal teammates for scraps when out of combat

[wraith lintel]

then KB across the planet

[drowsy isle]

in combat there's no reason to heal instead of damage because you literally do more damage than heals

unless team and enemy are grouped

tldr

m1 tp dmg heals

m2 projectile no falloff no bullet drop heal/dmg beam, caps at 30/15 respectively

shift makes a teleporter/pair of portals for allies

passive +speed +aoe heals when holding w

[lucid latch]

When you actually play around teammates, though, it can get really friggen crazy. But, you better hope you’re leading, not supporting

[tepid wind]

Garwick needs his health nerfed

By like 10

[drowsy isle]

shift is black hole that is launched as projectile, after like 1.8s it freezes in place and pulls in ppl with los to it

[tepid wind]

[drowsy isle]

it can be launched straight up and will stop like 8 blocks in the air

does also follow gravity while winding up

[wraith lintel]

is gawrick 80 hp

[drowsy isle]

yuh

[wraith lintel]

nerf him by 8 hp to 72

[drowsy isle]

8 is a curious number

[wraith lintel]

allowing Dr L to 3 shot rather than 4 shot

with directs

[tepid wind]

8 is oddly specific

[wraith lintel]

this will bring him in line

trust me

[drowsy isle]

li is not 3 shotting even at 72

because he will regen at least 1 hp

[wraith lintel]

ah right

[drowsy isle]

also if a garwick is getting hit by 3 m2 directs

they were a free win to begin with

[past mortar]

@random swallow youre so cooked 😈

[past mortar]

ah so 71 hp!

[drowsy isle]

I mean I rarely see her drop below 10 in the first place

so like a 10 hp nerf wouldn't change that much

they'd have to play a bit safer but that's about it

now a 20 hp nerf

that I can get behind

makes garwick significantly more assassin based

[random swallow]

NOOOO

[random swallow]

I do kinda play like that sometimes

[grave umbra]

erm its 4 s now actuakkly!

@runic stratus L

Repost hwre

[runic stratus]

what am i reposting

[grave umbra]

Adding assists or dmth

[random swallow]

Tbf

I don’t do bad healing with garwick

I have done enough to piss off Jackie lol

[grave umbra]

:(

me when i try to comm that a fella islow

[past mortar]

stop getting hit ?

[grave umbra]

andd then pqche jsut heals them up 15 hp and i cant kill

🥀

[past mortar]

oh someone ELSE is low

me personally i just kill them

[grave umbra]

truke...

[woeful surge]

My blizzard is not brawling today

[grave umbra]

Thoughts on deleting all wynnctaft weapons from player inventories if someome tries attacking with the wynncrsft weapom instead of the in game weapon?

I got curious abt the forum guu that posted a sillt paragraph in here earlier abt stuff and looked om forums bro is in an echo chamber with themselves brah 😭
https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/blizzard-brawl-2025-opinions-and-suggestions.323003/
Thjs guy treating entirety of dihcord like wynncraft players treat hsb

Half of these comments half to be ragebait/are js in bad faith oe whatver

Like evrything in here is wrong bruh the only part i can somewhat agree with is rickeo being mid cuz i have onlt seen spellsniffer be good at it ans they have 30p million hours istg

This fella did not play last year slam is not more fun to dodfe than rmb...

[twilit kiln]

Dihcord 🥀

[crystal thicket]

i shat on him on tom that very day maybe that exact time
i may be the reason for him channeling his hatred there

me, minded my own business in that game having fun, out of nowhere he starts trying to have the entire team target me specifically

[grave umbra]

Me when i stand out in the open and get beamed by a tom :(

[crystal thicket]

he played gawrick and instead of helping his teammates he only circle strafed near me at all times

[grave umbra]

Me when i struggle vs mmy counter and dont adapt

[steady venture]

i will say slam last year was hell but god now, it's so far the other way

[crystal thicket]

he then decided to publicly announce to everyone to start targeting me if people ever do see me in future games aswell

[steady venture]

like the slam is outright useless unless you just go and treat it as a mobility tool which... shouldn't be it's sole use

[crystal thicket]

in the brawl lobby

[grave umbra]

Yeah at leas its not the 50 dmt slams from nowhere again

[steady venture]

agreed but i'd just rather it be at least good?

not oh you're dead good but.. at least i can use it to do some ok damage.

[grave umbra]

Slam beig mobilit is kinda weird i agree i onlt see it used fr dmg on 2nd pt occasionally bc u have to waste 10s getting on top of the pt

[steady venture]

i just don't like irlok's entire thing now

charge stopping as if you went in to a wall.
The slam being eh..
Ultimate is still funny

just read that thread.. He's complaining about hailey charging ult on full health players... when even TF2 does that

[grave umbra]

When ebeyone is dead_m(altho u r pron js healing someone that got chipped) or at th stsrt

If someome takes too long to choose u can actually farm ljke 60% ult on hailey 😭

[steady venture]

fits the hero shooter

[drowsy isle]

forums in the big 2025 🥀

I remember seeing some guy saying they didn't like discord and thus we're trying to keep forums alive

but like

threads are just forums but better no?

[grave umbra]

Foeums is better for formatting big shit

[drowsy isle]

just means ur not good enough at formatting on discord

also in those cases you run the google doc

[grave umbra]

Spoilees are better on forums, u can put images in the middle of messahes without splitting the message into diff messahes, blah blah eee nalls jackie bslls
Google doc is useable but also goofy migjt as well use forums for big suggestjons

[drowsy isle]

idk I feel like forums offers less versatility to respond with

by nature of every message being contained in a giant brick, hosting conversations on there feels a lot rougher than on discord

and as such ppl are more inclined to compile text into one giant thingy

• forums is a website and discord is an app that can be used for communication with dozens of other servers and indiv without having to open a webpage

• pings make it easier to be aware of when ppl are responding

I will admit tho being able to add pics mid message is a good boon for forums

[grave umbra]

Discord is def bettwe in genersl than forums, forums is js onlt better abt thst one thjng
I think most people who have enouth feedback to warrant a big forum feedback pos wilm js make a forum post and suggestionbpost and link the forum post in thr discord suggestiom ot whateer

[drowsy isle]

waiting till discord adds that eventually

Ig if ur only offering raw feedback/suggestions yeah forums is better

[grave umbra]

Could do the same thing with a google doc tbh it is reallt jns whatever

[drowsy isle]

for a convo regarding said feedback/suggestion tho it's kinda cheeks

[sullen sphinx]

Are u good bro?

[woeful surge]

Crazy typos

[grave umbra]

Im pro typer

Woumd never make a typo ever

[woeful surge]

man ppl who used 7le to sell/buy fragment are insane

rip market

[woeful apex]

whats prices at atm?

oh nvm

who tf is selling shards for 7le

[woeful surge]

😔

[sand fiber]

7le per is crazy

[sand fiber]

Incoming Changes

-# it's the one you've all been waiting for!

Gawrick

Base HP: 80->70

Theorick

LMB Projectile Size Increased

Yahya

Shift Changes:

• Damage (per stack): 7->6
• Healing to self (per stack): 7->4
• Healing to allies (per stack): 7->10
• Healing applied to self via the shift no longer generates ultimate charge

Yahya's shift was still proving to be too strong of a damage dealer for a support class, also providing him with a large amount of sustain. I hope that this change brings him back around to more of a support class with increased ally heals if skilled players can line up their shift to pass through nearby allies. I'll be monitoring how these changes play out and adjusting as necessary!

[drowsy isle]

can you buff self heals by 3 and reduce base hp by 13 thanks

[sand fiber]

why owuld i do that

[drowsy isle]

it makes it a better set of numbers

more visually appealing

[sand fiber]

no

[drowsy isle]

damn

😔

but hey theo buffs whoopa

[sand fiber]

also fixed the sub-class exploit

[drowsy isle]

didja fix the hailey pre game ult farm 🥺

[sand fiber]

nope

[drowsy isle]

sadge

yahya changes look nice tho

[woeful surge]

hailey having ult on start 💪

[sand fiber]

(screw you guys for not telling me about this one)

/lh

[woeful surge]

[sharp finch]

nice changes

i like the ally heal buff

[dull dagger]

no demoknighting?

[sand fiber]

Incoming changes

Fixed a so-called "sub-class" exploit
It's no longer possible to gain ultimate charge while someone is still selecting a class

[woeful surge]

WHAT

😭

its over no more gawrick ult in first 30s

[sharp finch]

so thats how people ulted so fast lol

[drowsy isle]

(imma be fr the subclass exploit was not properly exploitable)

[woeful surge]

^

[sand fiber]

yea ik

at least if it's the same one i fixed lmao

[drowsy isle]

it has smth to do with sandbox methinks

or well, had

[sharp finch]

are there any irlock changes planned?

[toxic plover]

I think that Hailey is too strong ever since nerfing Tom and Rickeo (main DPS classes).

[sand fiber]

not currently

[drowsy isle]

hailey too strong in the big late 2025 💔

thats just a skill issue

[sand fiber]

"hailey too strong" never thought i would hear those words

[sharp finch]

i always kill myself with irlock ult

might just be skill issue tho

[woeful surge]

We are nerfing everything until every hero does 1dps max

[sand fiber]

1 sock of dps

[woeful surge]

🔥

[drowsy isle]

that is entirely your fault what

[toxic plover]

Do people not think Hailey is strong? She has great survivability and incredibly strong heals and gives out invuln.

[sharp finch]

im used to all the agents ults being relatively simple and then i play irlock and ult myself into the void at least twice in a game :P

[drowsy isle]

hailey when i irlok kick her in the face

or when tom looks in her direction

or when theo hits shift

or when li mechs in front of her

or when rickeo uppercuts her

[toxic plover]

I think you can play around all of those.

[drowsy isle]

or when garwick chases her with a shotgun blast

except you cant

all you have is your speed

and the shift

except some characters ignore the shift

also incredibly strong heals is a stretch

it just feels strong because everyone elses heals are so bad

the ult is strong but if you focus down the hailey either she dies or is forced to burn an ult on healthy teammates

[steady venture]

hailey is a case of a good one is strong but not too strong

she also doesn't punch you in the face for merely existing.

[drowsy isle]

kid named balanced:

[steady venture]

offensive wise hailey just exists. you're not 1v1 anytime soon but if you see a low health guy.... well they won't survive

[drowsy isle]

tbh i do have an idea of a change that could be made to garwick but ill refrain from sharing it till balance changes are made

oh yeah and unrelated to current changes but @sand fiber didja see the lil collage of rickeo shift bugs i sent earlier

cause that one is actually just a bug

[sand fiber]

tbh i also have no idea

[drowsy isle]

sadge

[sand fiber]

actually

i will try pushing out a fix

[drowsy isle]

well i suppose its not impossible to play around

just dont step anywhere near stairs or snow piles

[sand fiber]

a fix will be rolling out with the other changes

i think it should address at least some of the shift issues

[drowsy isle]

👍 goated

[woeful surge]

🥀

wrong desc of damage/s and heal/s should be 7.5/s to enemies and 3.75/s to allies

[drowsy isle]

Those who queue at 10am est on a weekday during finals week

🥀

[sand fiber]

get yo ass on eu queues

[woeful surge]

400ms

[woeful surge]

11pm here 💪

[sand fiber]

yeah just play around it tbh

[woeful surge]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-dies-thwomp-mario-64-mario-64-thwomp-death-gif-14049040339050574490

[drowsy isle]

400ms for an fps is playable

[woeful surge]

only when im hailey

[drowsy isle]

Skissue

[woeful surge]

😩

we did some funnies

got a queue right after this

[sand fiber]

what is going on here

[woeful surge]

secret tech

[toxic plover]

Did the change to make Gleamsphere take 4s to max charge also lower its max damage/heal or does it scale?

[sand fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/house-of-commons-what-on-earth-what-is-going-on-what-on-earth-is-going-on-in-the-house-of-commons-gif-26415865

[ornate fulcrum]

each second you charge increases the value, so having more seconds means you can charge for more time if needed

[random swallow]

NOOO THEY TOUCHED MY BOY

[woeful surge]

https://medal.tv/zh-Hant/games/minecraft/clips/lIENC1Qw1PDtFnZkP?invite=cr-MSw4aDgsNDU5MzgwNTQ2&v=0
um

this is not funny rn

[toxic plover]

I know that it increases damage/heal per second of charging. What I'm asking is, did the change from 5-4s to max charge, change the max damage per shot from 30 at max to 24 at max?

[ornate fulcrum]

yeah