OFFICIAL Blizzard Brawl 2025 feedback thread

[regal tendon]

Wtf

Time to remove my warp from my inv

[last mist]

As in the minigame weapon, your normal weapon is fine

[regal tendon]

Ah ok

[last mist]

(even /kill doesn’t restore your minigame weapon which is odd to me)

only workaround fix that I see is to switch classes back and forth

[sand fiber]

if u reselect at the class browser you can get it back yeah

Incoming changes

Fixed at least one thing which could cause a true wynncraft death

[azure raft]

a true wynncraft death...

how poetic

[regal tendon]

->

[regal tendon]

Did linny tell you

[sand fiber]

yeah

hopefully that fixes it

i think it was exclusively an issue which occured when your main weapon has +hpr

[regal tendon]

Ah interesting

[delicate kelp]

yahya ult needs to be nerfed

getting someone out of the game for that long is just not reasonable at all

[sand fiber]

ok but it does zero damage if you successfully escape and you get right back into the action afterwards

[delicate kelp]

+it charges way too quick, making it so it can just get spammed

[sand fiber]

it is getting changed soon so it doesnt charge while someones trapped

[delicate kelp]

oh yeah having someone out of the game for a minimum of 10 seconds is perfectly reasonable 👍

[sand fiber]

yes unironically it is

it has a fat windup and tiny range

move out of the way

[delicate kelp]

no its not

if you die you can get to the point faster than if someone uses yahya ult on you

thats not balanced at all

if it happens maybe twice per game I can kind of live with it but thats not the case...

[pale ibex]

Trust me, it's not easy to use that ult lmao

I can get one only when someone is coming in a straight like towards me, or i'm lucky

if you see someone with the ult activate, dont be predictable

[light narwhal]

Guys can anyone rank every hero from worst to best?

[delicate kelp]

just because your aim is subpar doesn’t mean everyone elses is

play against a good yahya and ur just screwed

[pale ibex]

Idk so far i havent seen anyone that is playing yahya that isnt me

Not including random people not even knowing how that class works

[sand fiber]

sockmower only writes good code

[light narwhal]

Yahya is too hard to play for beginners ngl

[light narwhal]

Lol what is this for

[sand fiber]

guassian distribution error function cumulative to

[light narwhal]

For wynn??

[sand fiber]

yeah

sockskill uses it

[light narwhal]

That's crazy

+1 respect

[pale ibex]

Also, after playing like 6 hours of only yahya, i'll give a feedback
This is not a support class. It's a dps one, and it can be even more deadlier then tom or rickeo, that is dumb. But lets ignore the damage, even only looking at the support it's, not good

Main attack: 5 is good, keep it like that
Right click: this ability's support is really bad, i would decrease the damage to 5 or 7 and add more debuff. Maybe decrease how much damage people can make? Or add nausea to the player. Also a speed debuff could be good. It feels too much a dps

Shift: it's too good, i agree with the 7 damage nerf, but not the 7 healing nerf. Maybe giving debuff based on how many stacks it has could be an idea, and buff to allies

Super: i honestly would remove the damage on fail, wasting 14 seconds is already bad enough.

Third eye: good concept, in practice 3 stacks are too much, 1 or even 2 would be better, so that the player can decide between a radar (seeing the aura of people) or do damage/heal

Overall, i love it tho, having a lot of fun

[light narwhal]

Why does it do big damage? I never get big damage with this guy. (not skissue trust)

[pure dagger]

agree with all points except the healing on shift - self healing absolutely should be nerfed on it

ally healing should not be nerfed tho

[pale ibex]

It's the combination of the amount of healing you can do, and the damage
People do not expect you can do 50 damage burst (that in reality is 55/60 because you can get few hits while flying towards the enemy)
And after, you get full healed

[dull dagger]

do you instantly die if you bring a -hp item into blizzard brawl

[sand fiber]

no

[pale ibex]

theoric cannot kill you basically even if he hits all his attacks, because of how much you healed

[pale ibex]

i agree now that i think about it

[dull dagger]

i mean i guess this wouldn't happen since you'd have 5 hp

but what about bringing -hpr items?

[sand fiber]

i solved that issue in a very elegant way

[dull dagger]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/749849907245875264/1201196956698034176/caption.gif

[toxic plover]

I think the biggest problem with Yahya is that it doesn't really feel like a support. Besides his ult and the occasional shift healing, he's mostly just a damage dealer.

[wraith lintel]

NoCatsNoLife

[sand fiber]

ye got it ty

[wraith lintel]

ah awesome possum

[regal tendon]

Wtf thats them

Crazy 🍰

[wraith lintel]

@regal tendon top of the morning to ya

who's them

[regal tendon]

Techale being nocatsnolife

[regal tendon]

Its almost 5pm

[wraith lintel]

secret identity OUTSTED

[wraith lintel]

hitting you with some top of the morning vibes

[limpid ether]

its morning for me

i just woe up

[hollow basin]

I would recommend doing something about that probably

[wraith lintel]

good morning then ender!!!!

[hollow basin]

Ender p aw

[limpid ether]

wrong

i am ender c law

[wraith lintel]

Shubdow

[hollow basin]

Just you wait until I have drawing motivation

You'll see

[limpid ether]

🤨

[hollow basin]

Hi?

[wraith lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/waving-wave-hello-hi-hii-gif-5162070633310464193

Are you playing bb this year

[hollow basin]

I've played some

But im not as good at it compared to heroes and btb

[pure dagger]

I'll be real I was planning on running one

I'm doing on in my guild next weekend and I was gonna do another one for any player entry on the last weekend of festival

[lucid latch]

Is this where I talk about Yahya being amazing

[sand fiber]

this is the place

[lucid latch]

Hope he doesn’t get gutted, because I like the loop

Maybe once I start getting too goated, then we can nerf it

[sand fiber]

a few nerfs in bound but i wouldn't call it a gutting

[lucid latch]

5 damage didn’t seem like a lot, but that melee potential is insane lmao

[wraith lintel]

interdimensional war criminal yahya

[sand fiber]

Incoming Changes

Yahya

Damage/healing per stack of afflicted on shift: 10->7
It's no longer possible to use the /kill command while trapped in Yahya's ult
Yahya will no longer gain Ultimate Charge (via any means) while someone is trapped in his Ultimate

for your reference

[lucid latch]

Only thing I’m super screwed about is that I cannot understand how to use the beam consistently

[wraith lintel]

when did a patch get pushed for the Dr L stuff

[sand fiber]

some time last night

[lucid latch]

Oh, that’s not bad at all

[wraith lintel]

yahya beam? like the shift?

[lucid latch]

Nah, the ultimate

I keep aiming it at people, but it sometimes just goes right through them

Maybe I gotta try to predict where they walk or something, but even when it looks like a direct shot, nothing happens

The shift is my absolute favorite thing. So genuinely funny to block off access point with the bomb, catch someone around the corner with a mushroom melee strike, and then just instantly kill them with shift while they try to run away

[limpid ether]

thank you for reminding me to start maining yahya fter my breakfast

[limpid ether]

yeah some last night the bomb is hte biggest notice

[lucid latch]

I have never played BB before, or OW, or any game beyond deltarune, Wynn, and look outside, but Yahya feels so natural to understand, it’s giving me 10-12 kills in 4 point sweeps

It’s also really satisfying when you have an idea for how to use this character, and you realize that this idea actually works, and you can basically come up with however many ideas you’d like with the shift and the left click

Like, I was fighting a Dr Legendary, and he started floating into the air, after I had melee’d him a few times, and I was confused, since I didn’t know what he was doing. But, I just shifted and basically boomeranged myself around him, and instantly killed the guy from that

Also, you can literally tap people from around corners, lead them to the middle, and line them up to damage them all at once. I’ve gotten a 10 kill streak just from that alone lmao

[steady hound]

can you not keep everyone in a party after a game ends, i hate being pulled into another game when i wanted to leave

[sand fiber]

better queue up that /pa leave 🔥

[steady hound]

:(

[limpid ether]

seems the dr li info on class hasn't had its values updated for overhealth granted @sand fiber
engineer intergrity of 2.0 is right tho

[sand fiber]

fixed for next push

[limpid ether]

alr

ty

:)

[lucid latch]

Were there any new characters, besides Yahya?

I didn’t read the changelog! 👹 🔥

[limpid ether]

hmm

[wraith lintel]

Since all allies can be interpreted to include yourself (Ability tree moment), can Mecha Form overhealth line update to something like:

All teammates within 5 blocks are also granted +15 Overhealth 💛 (-5/s)

All other teammates within 5 blocks are also granted +15 Overhealth 💛 (-5/s)

Other friendly players within 5 blocks are also granted +15 Overhealth 💛 (-5/s)

[limpid ether]

im using guided missile on myeslf as soon as it spawns for 15 dmg but its doing 45? its depleting my entire mech armor

[wraith lintel]

nah

just the ya ya

added sandbox as training camp

[lucid latch]

That’s nice

[limpid ether]

yeah its eating my entire 45 hp from 15 dmg

[wraith lintel]

Doc L got a new ultimate, as you can see here

[sand fiber]

working for me

[limpid ether]

no idea why

[limpid ether]

in sandbox at least its doing this

[lucid latch]

Aight my mini game ranking is now:

BTB>BB>CTH>Bonfire

Anyone wanna argue this

[limpid ether]

mope

[regal tendon]

nope

[wraith lintel]

nope

[sand fiber]

it is working for me in sandbox also

[regal tendon]

Also wow lol, yesterday I didnt understand how the yahya dash worked, but today I learnt how and im shocked i played yahya so well before even knowing how it worked, and now its just even more op lmfao

[lucid latch]

I’m actually swaying between BTB and BB being my favorites, but BTB was more personal to me, so it gets more love

[wraith lintel]

lmfao

[limpid ether]

evil

[regal tendon]

That ult is so hard to aim still tho

[lucid latch]

The dash is so unbelievably stupid. So good

[regal tendon]

I think ive hit someone twice with it

[sand fiber]

the aoe in it is phat

7 block radius

[lucid latch]

So much potential for fake-outs with it

[regal tendon]

Yeah uh i went from 5 hp to a triple kill and full hp wtf

[sand fiber]

certified balanced

[wraith lintel]

makes sense

[lucid latch]

Got 2 triple kills in a row, just from pillar shenanigans

There’s just so much potential for it, even without the heals busted nature

[regal tendon]

Why did you make him support.....

Use yahya and a healer and you not dying ever dawg

[lucid latch]

Yahya attacks ranking:

dash>melee>shroom bomb>ultimate

I still cannot aim that ultimate consistently

[polar gulch]

i feel like yahya has too much offensive potential and too little healing

I mean maybe not too little but it's either a lot or nothing, having one attack to heal allies which requires your shift to hit both and enemy and an ally seems a bit rough even though the heal is huge

[wraith lintel]

I imagine Yahya's biggest counter is like Theorick due to shield negating building stacks

[regal tendon]

Can we make this thread have no slowmode just like the old thread

[sand fiber]

@limpid ether can you do that

[polar gulch]

pwease
I can't wait 10s

[limpid ether]

uh lets see

[regal tendon]

You can do that

In settings, i noticed i could change the slowmode on my own thread too

[limpid ether]

done

[polar gulch]

ty

[regal tendon]

Based af

[wraith lintel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/773108055558455296/1448765400144679024/blizz1500.gif

[lucid latch]

We’re missing a 3rd tank!

Colossal rat with a Santa hat?

[sharp sierra]

is there a way to see teammates' classes at the start before selecting your own

besides clicking through every class

[wraith lintel]

select a class, look at theit name tags, wapow!

[wraith lintel]

does the game force you into the selection screen at the start or can you just escape and quickly look at the team

[sharp sierra]

lwk did not realize they had icons there

im pretty sure you have to choose

[wraith lintel]

ah well

[sharp sierra]

it would be nice if the class icons themselves greyed out maybe

[wraith lintel]

in typical hero shooter fashion, I think we need woman dps character next

[lucid latch]

Colossal rat with a wig and a purse

[wraith lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-writing-fire-his-writing-is-fire-is-this-fire-hold-up-gif-15400153686296022809

[violet scaffold]

i NEED a linnyserver invite, pfinder is 💀 at BB

i want to become a tryhard...

[delicate kelp]

😎

[sand fiber]

someone hook me up with a linny server invite

probably good place to get feedback

[polar gulch]

hok me up to 😊 😁 😊

[past mortar]

ok

[limpid ether]

can you use mobiliy in yahya backrooms

[uneven cypress]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1393808319583354952/1448127014736363672/caption.gif

[limpid ether]

ovement spels

the

abilties

[uneven cypress]

Like gawrick tp¿ if so yea

[tepid wind]

Inv me too cro

[violet scaffold]

what

too many acronyms

[past mortar]

accept my friend request i’ll give u invite

[violet scaffold]

it said i didn't share servers w/ you even tho we share 3

[past mortar]

lol

[pure dagger]

get me in too please 😭

@past mortar u got me right

[wraith lintel]

An immunity bug has hit the blizzard brawl

[sand fiber]

elaborate

[wraith lintel]

streamer selekcraft just had a game where an enemy irlock was immune to damage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vub6BMP3hcU invicnble players in game RN

oh wait he might be silly

lmk if you want me to find a clip

[delicate kelp]

I think hes just missing his attacks since theorick lmb hitbox is small

[wraith lintel]

@delicate kelp @sand fiber

load video load

[delicate kelp]

is it just me or are the only people getting hit during that clip in the background 😂

[wraith lintel]

YEAH LMAO

all the bullets fly past the hailey and ding everyone behind him

[delicate kelp]

😵‍💫

[acoustic hatch]

best minigame ever

[pale ibex]

It happened also to me this morning
Basically in a game i was invulnerable against like everyone but 1 person for some reasons

[dapper prawn]

I just realized, isnt Yahya basically riftwalker

[polar gulch]

what

[wraith lintel]

lock IN

[dapper prawn]

[limpid ether]

yahya is just a better rikeo rn ngl

[woeful apex]

im gonna be completely honest yahya did NOT need those buffs 😭

[limpid ether]

yeah

[past mortar]

🥀

[sand fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-wth-jesse-gif-17336046

[limpid ether]

lik

tank melter

[sand fiber]

SIX SEVEN

[dapper prawn]

cux you stack winded then use transonic warp which heals you and allies and does more damage the more stacks u have

your mb1 is like throwing meteors

ult doesn't fit but everything else is 100% accurate

https://tenor.com/view/tinkering-tony-stark-tony-stark-jarvis-gif-24567852

[azure raft]

when I'm in a stretching competition and my opponent is you

[grave night]

please tell me there ISN'T a 67 emote

[dapper prawn]

it is

10.5stx of shards

[wraith lintel]

is it not just an MVP anim

[azure raft]

yeah it is

[woeful apex]

how did we lose this 😭

[azure raft]

the objective is a KOTH, not to kill the most enemies

oh huh, chat cooldown was removed here

[woeful apex]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-bird-gif-16835999897918525830

[azure raft]

question, is hailey's holiday cheer hitbox a cone forward or a circle?

[limpid ether]

ok lowkey after playing with yahya for a bit

[wraith lintel]

dogshit or broken

call it

[limpid ether]

another issue besides piper is just the sheer dps they can do with lmb

like its super fast

5 dmg

generious hit box

lasts until hitting a block

straight up can melt dps and support

[dapper prawn]

day one Yahya otp

[limpid ether]

very

i think piper dmg nerf def and maybe rmb button dmg nerf

or attack speed nerf / hitbox change

[dapper prawn]

they should buff his support before nerfing damage

im still of the opinion tho, that Yahya's kit works better as dps

[past mortar]

there should not be 4 dps

[late jolt]

Gawrick is a fun class to play but his healing output is too low and the cooldowns r pretty long
its a cool idea but i feel like compared to shit like yahya its mid as hell

^

yahya busted as fuck LMAO

[dapper prawn]

gawrick heals? lol

[dapper prawn]

I dont see an issue with it as long as role maximums exist

[late jolt]

yeah LMAO

[past mortar]

well they dont

[late jolt]

the healing is so dogshit

[dapper prawn]

gawrick feels like he does no damage as well

[late jolt]

on god

@pure dagger opinions on gawrick

[dapper prawn]

I think mb2 should be hitscan or significantly faster

[late jolt]

as a yahya main

[dapper prawn]

the other abilities are rlly fun tho

[late jolt]

whos easily triple s platinum tier

[late jolt]

hitscan absolutely

its so fucking slow

[dapper prawn]

like a guardian beam

[dapper prawn]

implement it 💡

no more than 2 of one class

[past mortar]

[dapper prawn]

also gawrick passive feels nonexistent

[late jolt]

he has a passive???

LOL

[wraith lintel]

riftwalker speed run

but it gives a healing and speed aura

that gets stronger over longer sprint time

[dapper prawn]

except I never feel the healing and speed drops off too fast

[pure dagger]

fuck gawrick

wait

no

[wraith lintel]

REAL

[pure dagger]

oh that got deleted

fuck innertenacity

[wraith lintel]

down bad for gawrick

[pure dagger]

actual robot

[dapper prawn]

also mb2 shouldn't get canceled for holding it .5ms over maximum

[late jolt]

bro u play yahya

[dapper prawn]

Yahya takes skill tho

[pure dagger]

yeah at least im useful 😭

[late jolt]

bro

[dull dagger]

skill is scary

[dapper prawn]

also we should give Theorick mb1 Ashe passive

all hits slow

[past mortar]

no character should consistently dominate games even if it takes skill to do

[dull dagger]

read: tf2 sniper

[late jolt]

tbf

i’m playing on a mac

with a trackpad rn

[dull dagger]

didnt we have a 4 year bot crisis that proves how op sniper is?

[dapper prawn]

yeah when its controlled by bots

[dull dagger]

we also had a video proving that sniper does nothing
you could safely remove him and the game would improve

[lucid latch]

Yahya—in fact—does take skill, but once you meet that threshold, it’s fucking insanely busted

[dull dagger]

its like not having any weaknesses

[lucid latch]

I, also, don’t think it’s a threshold that’s uncommon for good Wynn players to meet

[dapper prawn]

sniper or yahya

[lucid latch]

I can see someone not familiar with the way Wynn works to get screwed with Yahya, but that can basically be applied to every character

[azure raft]

cant wait for casual to be dominated by heavies with medics up their asses

[lucid latch]

Is that what medic does?

Idk anything about TF2, besides the characters sound funny

[azure raft]

medic heals and overheals, and a fully overhealed heavy is quite very scary

a fully-charged headshot is one of the very few ways to deal with this

[dapper prawn]

hop on the vaccinator

[azure raft]

another way is spy, but like, lol

[pure dagger]

are we deadass

[late jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/stinky-wear-deodorant-read-a-book-meme-smelly-gif-10266646813620115129

"yeah i play yahya"

[dull dagger]

the french is here

[late jolt]

soap its

[azure raft]

it is I, the french

[late jolt]

time based

[pure dagger]

maybe if you didnt suck ass youd be able to be useful with him 😭

[late jolt]

i think

[limpid ether]

why are we rbing

[dull dagger]

you could also try demoman, spam the heavy out

[limpid ether]

yahya is good but pretty op rn

they are just rikeo but better

as a "support"

[polar gulch]

yeah yahya is not only a support but also up there in terms of dps

[wraith lintel]

HELL YES MAIN CLASS BASED HATE

[limpid ether]

like you use piper to dmg and heal ur self you can rarely heal other ppl

[dull dagger]

you can corner peek the heavy, you can take advantage of his slow movement

[polar gulch]

and that mf is not dying either

[dull dagger]

you can take advantage of his rev up time

[limpid ether]

yeah u gotta commit to piper

otherwise it flops

[dull dagger]

heavy has those weaknesses

sniper has a "weakness" that only exists if you're bad at the game

[azure raft]

medic heals , corner peeking doesn't mean much if he just heals in-between your peak

[past mortar]

i love rickeo this makes me sad

[limpid ether]

yeah

i love rikeo too

[azure raft]

although demo might work yeah

[random swallow]

garwick

[polar gulch]

guys whih kit do i pick

[dull dagger]

said weakness goes away because the number 150

[wraith lintel]

guys whih kih do ih pih

[dull dagger]

you've got demo, you've got soldier, and it might be worth it to drop the medic

[azure raft]

medic has a heavy defending him

[dull dagger]

i've done some insane plays just to drop the medic 😭

[dapper prawn]

flank with battle engi

[azure raft]

soldier players after planning out the most convulsed rocket jumping route just to kill a medic (it only has a 60% chance to work)

[wraith lintel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1239693595917811753/1435880445454848130/convert.gif

[ornate knot]

can we pls nerf yahya

[dapper prawn]

learn the counterplay

[tepid wind]

What counterplay bro

Support talking all my health 💔

And then theres always a garwick player doing fuck all and i running around

[dapper prawn]

track his dash and regroup with teammates if youre getting stacked

[tepid wind]

Why can yahya do allat anyways hes a support

[dapper prawn]

garwick players try to do something impactful challenge:

[tepid wind]

Wdym track his dash bro

[dapper prawn]

its on a 7sec cooldown, engage after he uses it

[tepid wind]

So what do you want me to do before then

[dapper prawn]

then preemptively dodge

[tepid wind]

Fucking run around

[dapper prawn]

kill him

[tepid wind]

??

Wait out his dash but kill him in the meantime

Genius

[limpid ether]

gawrick can do a lot

they have a high skill floor and ceiling

[tepid wind]

Let me hit garwick atleast once please

[limpid ether]

its just you gotta punish em for making mistakes otherwise its a constant fly that whittles you down

and contests point

while teammates come back from resepawn

[tepid wind]

Genuine garbos playing garwick and i cant hit them

Gg

[limpid ether]

speedy

[dapper prawn]

cant solo contest point unfortunately

mb1 should do more damage imo

so should mb2 but

[tepid wind]

Good bro

Keep it that way

[limpid ether]

i mean it slows and keeps ppl occupied

better then dying

[limpid ether]

year 1 bb for a bit had it so if anyone was on point from enemy it contested

it was changed thankfully

cus gawrick would really abuse it

[wraith lintel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D4Wp5qSywg

[dapper prawn]

I just wanna see projectile speed increased

[limpid ether]

i love how correct and incorrect it is

[polar gulch]

can you drop some tips for herb

i must learn

[limpid ether]

who is herb

[polar gulch]

herb ert

[limpid ether]

oh

tahts a new one

uhh

when im on the bus i will

gotta get ready

for work

[polar gulch]

i like to name my guys food

[limpid ether]

so true

herb

[polar gulch]

thank you oh mister

herb garlic

[young crystal]

was one of the people playing with selek and can confirm that we had an invincible player every round that worked

there was also a bug at the start where everyone got put on the same team

[limpid ether]

I play herb pretty aggressively but i basically whittle enemy at mid range with human pellet gun then either mech transform slam mech rmb corner peeking if i know someone is there OR hover to an enemy then mech rmb swap

The key is to shift constantly to keep integrity up (shpuld never reach 0) and to overheal teammates

You get in ppl faces or hover and peller spam em
Herb loves corners also

Either use human ult for Chokes or aoe denial and mech ult if downtime/grouped enemies

[dull dagger]

what if you get rushed

[wraith lintel]

hover out

[dull dagger]

what if you still get rushed

[limpid ether]

Hover or tank it

[wraith lintel]

Good question

[limpid ether]

Mech rmb is good dps

To scare ppl off

[dull dagger]

what if the enemy is running the direct hit

[limpid ether]

Be at mid range and they will miss

Actually was thinking about yahya piper and besides nerfing dmg and hp maybe after you hit an enemy with it, your hitbox increases and allies you heal with piper recieve like 1.5x healing from it or something in comparison to you

[wraith lintel]

feed into the enabler idea

[limpid ether]

No idea how feasible it is but the idea is to promote more support with a bigger hitbox to hit allies with + more healing to them
This would be alongside general dmg/healing nerf, maybe 5/5 or some shit

[limpid ether]

Whar

[toxic plover]

Could someone good at this game rank the characters from strongest to weakest for me?

[wraith lintel]

part of yahya's identity imo is to enable and disable - disbale with debuff bomb and super

[dull dagger]

when are we getting a spy character in bb

backstab for a one hit ko

[wraith lintel]

so making the shift more enabling for your team sounds nice

idk

[limpid ether]

Oh i was jusr confused what yoy meant by enable

[wraith lintel]

oh and enable with his passive

thats what i was thinkin

[limpid ether]

Oh yeah the passive

Its cool but

With how it decays it sucks most of the time

Its like

Mmh someone can do the math but in my experience on average 2-3 seconds of the xray being useful

[wraith lintel]

i should be five though

[limpid ether]

Which can help for corners but someone most of the time js alr fighting em

[wraith lintel]

decay wise at least

[limpid ether]

Ik but

Each debuff decays individually

So by the time you apply the 5th one the 1st one alr decays

So unless there constantly getting hit you lose the 3 req fast

[polar gulch]

thanks

[dapper prawn]

idk because shift is his primary healing so it wouldn't benefit your healing capabilities much

I think you should be able to mark allies as well

[limpid ether]

Wdym mark

[limpid ether]

Its easy to apply debuff stacks

Maybe a bigger dmg nerf compared to healing

10 per stack is a bit absurd tho

[dapper prawn]

stack

[dapper prawn]

I mean if dash applies healing amp, it's effect will end before you can dash again to heal

[limpid ether]

Honestly maybe just straight up a “using piper on allies heals them for 5 hp” no strings attached

[woeful apex]

gawicks a support? since when

[limpid ether]

So if you miss a piper at least you can maybe heal people

A bit

I like the bigger hitbox idea tho so its easier

[dapper prawn]

Id still never try to use dash into allies because dashing to enemies for damage and self heal is too good

[dapper prawn]

yeah the hitbox is pretty small

damage nerf and hitbox increase would be nice

[limpid ether]

Yeah

[grave umbra]

Thats what im sayjg brah the melee lowkey does high dps for no reason

[drowsy isle]

how about we see how yahya is post nerf before nerfing them again

[grave umbra]

I didny say nerf him im js ahreeing bra

[dapper prawn]

add some of these designs to base game

gonna be so sad to see all this hard work go away after the festival ends

rgm should stay perma at least tho

[grave umbra]

irlok design is new acrobat

Or like was implemented into acro

[patent mason]

Fire idea

Fr current acro sucks

[grave umbra]

Yahya nerf is 10 smg/healing ->7 dmf/healing per stack and inability to charge ult while somone is in the labratoru btw if u didnt nose

Also im saying the current momentum part of acro is partly stolen from irlok it happend laat year lo

[sullen sphinx]

irlock is fun to play if your ping doesn't suck

[dapper prawn]

Yahya reminds me a lot of RW i think it works better

quickly stacking then consuming compared to slow ramping dmg

[grave umbra]

Garlic

[lucid latch]

The new blueprint for RW is just BB Yahya, dash and all

[dapper prawn]

im here for it

[sand fiber]

how tf are they playing 4v4

[sand fiber]

sphere

[azure raft]

'ight, thanks

[lucid latch]

5v5 bigger map please oh please

[sand fiber]

fair warning by the way I have had 9 shots of rum

disregard literally everything I say

[lucid latch]

Gulp

[sullen sphinx]

take a 10th

gotta get the double digit

[sand fiber]

planning to

when we hit the club

[lucid latch]

Also, Arthur anymore maps, or is it just the one

[sullen sphinx]

i am socially awkward sir

do you think i go outside

[drowsy isle]

@sand fiber suggestion, can yahya be granted sound effects when charging pay the piper?

i think that is quite important for it to have

[past mortar]

ooooo you want to add anni cache to bbrawl shop ooooooo

[grave umbra]

Oo u want to make all of yahyas stats 67

[ornate fulcrum]

uh, it alr has sounds for that

[dapper prawn]

[drowsy isle]

when active it does

[grave umbra]

Idt it has sounds for the half second of startup for the charge just when its activ

[ornate fulcrum]

oh like shifting while its on cd?

[grave umbra]

Like the half second of shifring before the charge actuaklt starts

[stable karma]

9 before the club 🤨

[dapper prawn]

can we get sfx when we hit yahya ult

can never tell if i did or not

especially since the effect is delayed

[grave umbra]

True esp since there is a delay

Yeha

[wraith lintel]

oh my lord i didn't even clock that

this means however that the blizzy brawl tournament can now have spectators

[wraith lintel]

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cirrhosis/symptoms-causes/syc-20351487

Okay so fact - 8 player parties will break BB by giving invincibility

[dapper prawn]

22 seconds to get a heal

[wraith lintel]

did you actually get healed by that

I thought I was tripping the hell out when you saw 2 seconds with that second look

[dapper prawn]

yeah it kicked in a few seconds after the clip

(i then immediately died)

id like to see health packs buffed to 40hp and introduce passive healing when out of combat for 5 seconds at a rate of 5/3s

also maybe a block beneath the heath pack spawn locations so it isnt just a nametag

[polar gulch]

40 is too much especially if you get passive hpr

[dapper prawn]

one or the other idrm

[tepid wind]

Guys can we make it so if you buy the emotes you buy for bb can be used outside of bb

[grave umbra]

40 hp woukd def be too much thats half rhe health of gawrick and he already can abuse the shi out of them

[wraith lintel]

then we make them timely

[half gyro]

i dont see a usecase of theorick except of being just kind of annoying to your team and the other team

cause it eats projectiles

[grave umbra]

Compared to li he is not that good of a tank pick, i think he is a decwnt counteepick to yayha tho

[half gyro]

fair enough honestly

[wraith lintel]

if it eats everything, maybe we use it like mei wall in OW

block off los from points, safe zones to avoid kb, safe spaces for health packs, areas to retreat into when low on health or near haileys

[sand fiber]

I think he should have some?

how are people getting 8 into a lobby

the game is hard coded for 3v3

[ornate fulcrum]

can yahya's pied piper not go in cooldown if cancelled during the 0.5 charging duration

[wraith lintel]

not hard coded enough!

[sand fiber]

no seriously how are ppl getting 8 in a game

did I not add a check for that

[drowsy isle]

no it should be able to be punished

[ornate fulcrum]

punished for mispressing the crouch key

[patent mason]

can yahya get deleted? lmao

[sand fiber]

no :)

[patent mason]

😔

[dapper prawn]

true

[wraith lintel]

we're lucky they didnt try 5v5

on the stream they try once, it breaks, causing everyone to be on the same team and the game draws

thy try again, same thing

third try they get into a game, people are all in the game, but several are immune

hard to say what exactly happened because the streamer wasnt leader

but on the one that worked, it had the team selection menu pop up

and then loaded them into class selection

[patent mason]

How yahya's heal is workin??@?

I've seen a lot of dudes that went from 20 hp to 80 in seconds

[patent mason]

It needs to be nerfed

[wraith lintel]

alr happening

Incoming Changes
Yahya
Damage/healing per stack of afflicted on shift: 10->7
It's no longer possible to use the /kill command while trapped in Yahya's ult
Yahya will no longer gain Ultimate Charge (via any means) while someone is trapped in his Ultimate

so instead of going from 20 to 80

[sand fiber]

I will be adding a check to reject all parties above 6

[wraith lintel]

in that situation he's go from 20 to 55

[wraith lintel]

💔

[sand fiber]

the game is not made to handle it sorry

[patent mason]

Thanks god

[wraith lintel]

most scuffed spectator mechanic ever

[feral hemlock]

"what if you wanted to play blizzard brawl
but god said 'enemy team tom irlok yahya'"

[young crystal]

oh oof

[wraith lintel]

then the devil said theorick, dr L, hailey

[wraith lintel]

the selek nerf

[azure raft]

@sand fiber is it intended for theorick's wall to eat everything?

[wraith lintel]

1 le says yes

[grave umbra]

It vblocks enemy attacks yeah

[wraith lintel]

actually maybe you just programmed 10 player matches because you have 9 rums inside you

[grave umbra]

Allied attacks still go thru but it js looks like they dont

[wraith lintel]

and allies

oh

zamn

[azure raft]

I meant moreso blocking you own teammate's attacks

[azure raft]

OH

[grave umbra]

U can test in sandbox and see

[azure raft]

well that's silly lol

[wraith lintel]

sanbox is such a godsend for stuff like this

[sand fiber]

uh I mean yeah that's like the whole fuckin point

[wraith lintel]

10 rums

[grave umbra]

I meanu alr coukd js make a priv game wirh 2 people but sandbox is nice firbsolo testin

[azure raft]

but apparently it just makes them invisible so nvm

(why does it even make them invisible?)

[grave umbra]

Evil rendering issue or smth idj

Idk

[wraith lintel]

fly through the barrier with mech ult 🔥

[azure raft]

finally, fungal bomb buff (it's invisible so enemies don't know where it is)

[sand fiber]

MC render limitation nothing I can do

[azure raft]

damn

you should add in the description that it's intended to make ally projectiles invisible fr

it's not a bug, it's a feature

[wraith lintel]

cloaking technoology

[grave umbra]

Genius!

[lucid latch]

Wynn needs to have a separate mini games server, like hypixel lmao

Cause these games are so hella (minus bonfire but it’s still not that bad)

[azure raft]

even if bonfire is considered the worst, it's still a really good game compared to everything every minecraft servers have to offer yeah

[sullen sphinx]

chat why do the names of ppl sometimes disappear in bb

[grave umbra]

Cuz they got sent t to emshsow realm ans bugged out :(

[limpid ether]

Theres a sound iirc but it feels inconsistent
But there is def a sound when missing its the li mech sound

[limpid ether]

The 7/7 dmg heal change is happening??

The 6/7 piper is so close wtf

The health nerf might be a bit much esp considering support aspect but oh well we will see what happens (i also like the idea discussed with only nerfing dmg and increasing hitbox size during piper)

[tepid wind]

Nerf dr legendary overhealth nerf yahya damage thank you

[wraith lintel]

past 15 overhealth alr???

[tepid wind]

Also yayha bomb aoe is too much

[tepid wind]

Yeah

Idk how much he heals but its a lil too much

[wraith lintel]

man 💔

[tepid wind]

After careful testing

After these changes the game will be perfect!

[wraith lintel]

trust

[dapper prawn]

so is anything getting buffed or only nerfs

[sullen sphinx]

[dapper prawn]

ok cool

yahya mb1 nerf isnt there tho

also i thought they were nerfing shift damage

[delicate kelp]

oh a nerf for yahya is happening?

[dapper prawn]

unfortunately

[sullen sphinx]

yahya is way too op chat

[wraith lintel]

Incoming changes

Yahya

Damage/healing per stack of afflicted on shift: 10->7
It's no longer possible to use the /kill command while trapped in Yahya's ult
Yahya will no longer gain Ultimate Charge (via any means) while someone is trapped in his Ultimate

Other

Fixed at least one bug where games could be reset slightly too early allowing them to be stuck in a weird half-reset state (if other players queued into your world)
Fixed at least one thing which could cause a true wynncraft death

[dapper prawn]

methinks the other classes are kinda buns

[sullen sphinx]

2 sided coin ig

buff irlock

more lmb dmg pls

i need to land like 7 hits

atleast

[wraith lintel]

6 or 7 hits

[tepid wind]

They need the buff the hitbox on the dash

Thats about it

[sullen sphinx]

or that

[tepid wind]

I be going straight through dudes half the time

[sullen sphinx]

like 30% chance you hit anything with the dash

[tepid wind]

Yeah its really random

[tepid wind]

Nah its definitely just yahya

[tepid wind]

Yo 💀💀💀

[sullen sphinx]

i had a dude in bb who focused me for like 2 games in row

[tepid wind]

Yahya and dr li are overtuned

Everyone else is just calm

[sullen sphinx]

i got him like 3 times max whilst he got me 10 times with fucking yahya

[wraith lintel]

is Dr Li overtuned or is he just being played well

Lot of sweats like dr L atm

[tepid wind]

Nah gang

Overtuned

After careful tesring

[dapper prawn]

is yahya overtuned or is he just being played well

[wraith lintel]

be careful!!

[tepid wind]

He aint that overtuned its just rhe hp gain

Es

Everything else is fine

[sullen sphinx]

a little less hp gain and he'd be fine

[tepid wind]

Have those changes in pinned been implemented

[tepid wind]

💡

[wraith lintel]

yes

[tepid wind]

Yeah nerf that shit again

Also theres a bug where you cant use abilities

Happens randomly

[wraith lintel]

https://medal.tv/zh-Hant/games/minecraft/clips/lHaxoqeibM9Pd_T8J?invite=cr-MSwwWDYsNDU5MzgwNTQ2&v=12

like this?

[tepid wind]

No

The games functional you just can use your abiltiies

Only your main attack

Until you die

[wraith lintel]

this is the Dr L and Yahya nerf

[tepid wind]

Its only hapoened on irlock 💀

[wraith lintel]

rickeo, theorick go crazy with only melee

[delicate kelp]

#BringBackOldTheorick

[sullen sphinx]

where is theorick f rom again

isn't that a wizard npc

[delicate kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/wynncraft-theorick-twain-minecraft-meme-gif-21782692

[sullen sphinx]

i remember

[late jolt]

rgm?

[dapper prawn]

rotating gamemodes

[late jolt]

ah

[tepid wind]

theres a bug where your 2 classes at the same time with 2 hp bars and you are invisible

[drowsy isle]

yep

i was garwick and irlok

had harmony and freefall slam

[tepid wind]

W bug

[drowsy isle]

could build harmony too somehow?

but i didnt have the ult or the m2

also had 2 boss bars

[tepid wind]

that looked fun to play

[drowsy isle]

i couldnt like

control my abilities correctly

cause sometimes itd cast freefall instead of portal

https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/lHADgEhE7uCVycfXg?invite=cr-MSxZY1QsNDU0NzA0MTE0&v=457

[wraith lintel]

Unrelated to issue but is the garwick bar for right click or the passive charge

[dapper prawn]

right click

[wraith lintel]

https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/lHwdUmPz3380gbbPk
doomish clip of yahya but wOw

that dash is pretty gnarly

[drowsy isle]

to be fair like 80% of my gametime in the past 8 months has been of gameplay extremely similar to this

[wraith lintel]

yeah but you arent gonna be able to engage yahya from a distance

[drowsy isle]

and my opponents are people who primarily play mmo's

[wraith lintel]

i misread the patch notes

i thought range was 2 blocks, not hit box

[drowsy isle]

are you on rn

i can show you why the hitbox needs to be what it is

[wraith lintel]

no but maybe after a finals project rn

[drowsy isle]

aight

basically you know how yahya gives glowing right

[wraith lintel]

ofc!

[drowsy isle]

you can use that to see what the hitbox actually is

and yahya mid dash hitbox is

so offset

compared to model cause wynn

[wraith lintel]

oh shite your right

[drowsy isle]

if hitbox was 1:1 i think it would hit like

no one

[wraith lintel]

it consumes stacks

[wraith lintel]

offset by how much ish

[drowsy isle]

i wanna say like

a block and a half

also hey did a training dummy get added

[wraith lintel]

no shot

does it take 'hits'

check if the patch got pushed too

whats yahya's shift damage now

@drowsy isle what is it

visual bug or actual thing

[drowsy isle]

it doesnt take hits

[wraith lintel]

aw

[grave umbra]

that was there last night too

[plucky fable]

yeah some weird bug

[sand fiber]

bababooey

how are we frreelijg about balance

rogutbbkw

[plucky fable]

Thats not a word Sock

[tepid wind]

nerf yahya thanjs

[sand fiber]

notify aactyallu

[plucky fable]

Good Night Sock

[hollow basin]

😭

[unborn meadow]

holy moly

[sand fiber]

I have had at least 16 shots

please ignore literally everything I say

[wraith lintel]

plenty of concerns about the mushroom man

[wraith lintel]

plenty of concerns about the sock man

[dapper prawn]

anyone know if the festival mystery is working this year?

[sand fiber]

I'll be fine

I've been far worse

[grave umbra]

67 or 69 which one is better

[drowsy isle]

hey....

[sand fiber]

cba fixing so I'll say it's intended (lie but certified sockmower strat?

[compact oak]

Irlok's hitreg is borked

Also Yahya is just annoying to play against

[drowsy isle]

suggestion: make dr legendary need a minimum mech hp to enter the mech

cause rn he just sees an ult coming and enters mech with 1 hp or smth

and full tanks it

[tepid wind]

Yeah its genuinely so bad

Everything other than the ult has terrible hit reg

[feral hemlock]

is this about tom's BIG SHOT
because that's the main ultimate I can think of that'd be majorly effected by this

[drowsy isle]

or irlok

irlok is the big one

cause they also hit their m1

and take 0 kb

[feral hemlock]

irlok is like
.kinda?
part of the killing power is from the knockback
which admittedly herbert already counters with the jetpack or the slam

[drowsy isle]

but it also has 35 damage

[grave umbra]

I love takin no kb with the slam 😇

[woeful surge]

It’s more of a overheath problem idk

it nullifies overflow damage somehow(which base game doesn’t have)

[grave umbra]

yeah

[limpid ether]

Clash royal shield reference

I am the dark knight

[tepid wind]

Thats not even a troop

[compact oak]

Dr. Legendary should require at least 10 mech hp to activate

[limpid ether]

Oh shit i meant prince not knight

Im trippin

[drowsy isle]

well knight does have it now

[limpid ether]

Evo knight res be lime

Like

[drowsy isle]

hero knight

[wraith lintel]

yeah wrong op monetization mechanic

[dapper prawn]

can we add winrate % and kdr to our stat page

[compact oak]

i would nerf yahya like:
Pay The Piper:
Damage: 10 -> 7 per stack
Healing: 10 -> 7 per stack
Healing gain dimishes per player hit (-50% healing gained per every player)
CD: 7s -> 8s

[limpid ether]

p sure its alr gonna be 7 7

also healing gain diminshe per player is never an issue u only hit like 1 person maybe 2 tops per piper

cus its so hard to hit

[compact oak]

Also is irlok's attack a hitscan or

The visual is misleading

[wraith lintel]

https://youtu.be/kaQBjtWGcw4?si=TCi2nDSaKRvpOV44

[limpid ether]

TRUE

[tepid wind]

Nah

[grave umbra]

irloks attack is lie a projectitle

[tepid wind]

Irlocks hitboxes are so inconsistent

[limpid ether]

theo attack boxes are bad wow

[tepid wind]

Hes like a worse voidcrawler from smash heroes except the ults are different

[limpid ether]

i dont remember how bad itwas in 1st year when theo was op as shit but

i can't hit anything

[tepid wind]

His attack projectile is hella slow

[drowsy isle]

ok got the multiclass bug again

this time no invis

but it still crashed my game afterwards

this time at least i think it was double garwick

so it didnt really change anything

[woeful surge]

I miss old irlok

Kick slam 40damage aoe

[drowsy isle]

current irlok is fine tho

well, balance wise

50 dmg kick be upon ye

also sockmower can u confirm if irlok stun is only if 4+ harmony and if wall contact

[woeful surge]

he can be better if melee is hitscan with some damage nerf

with high ping it’s disaster

[wraith lintel]

I kinda like that if you dont work around hitting his squishy teammates or breaking down his integrity to the multisecond cooldown beforehand (Like Tom before ult or Dr L before ult), he'll have that staying power

[drowsy isle]

ok but that's just absurd that he can do that at all

like something thats only possible to coordinate if he either is solo, or you are in vc

[compact oak]

when are we getting something like this but for blizzard brawl

[drowsy isle]

like what

[wraith lintel]

linny server clan 😎

[wraith lintel]

its faze

[grave umbra]

🥀

[wraith lintel]

But can't we just

Tom : bang bang bang break mech OR see mech break/switch
use ult quick

or

Tom: oh i should target the one shottable targets so that we can 3v1 dr L and gain point advantage

maybe im stupid but im not seeing it

[drowsy isle]

yes communicate that ur ulting as Tom in p finder and type to ur teammates to demech him before it lands

the li will 100% not see that message

also 'use ult quick'

bro?

it has a windup

he'll regen an integrity

and he only needs one

to block the entire ult

also this isn't exactly a problem exclusive to ults either

yahya marks all get blocked

very easy

irlok kick initial (no wall pin)

irlok free fall (maybe the most egregious)

garwick m2

the issue is that he only needs one

[wraith lintel]

hmmmmmm

damn

[drowsy isle]

also

he only needs one integrity to shoot a rocket

and initiate a slam

one integrity to initiate the 36 damage combo

as well as let him air stall for a bit

[wraith lintel]

ngl in my mind your hitting your shots to demech the man yourself and cause the additional wait time for integrity generation due to reaching 0

but the followup ult isnt reasonable

you're right on that

[drowsy isle]

Yes except he just spams shift

so like demech him

he flies around for like

[wraith lintel]

2ish seconds

[drowsy isle]

6 to 7 seconds with hover booster

it is not 2 seconds

flies around

and if you don't chase him he gets to either ping you or grab heals

if you do, you risk him entering mech again with like 2 integrity and slamming you with the combo

and you'd be under him

actually wiki says it's 2s

hmm

I'm 99% sure it isnt

[wraith lintel]

yeah im lost

if its wrong its wrong

but man what a character

[drowsy isle]

but the idea is still

if you chase him

bang

36 hp gone

[wraith lintel]

does reaching 0 integrity cause the animation to stop

[drowsy isle]

nah

[wraith lintel]

smh oudated wiki lock in frozenearth

[wraith lintel]

aw

[drowsy isle]

Actually not 100% sure on it not ending

but the guy is still above you

if he hover boostered into slam he's even more above you

but I think a shrimple solution is require minimum integrity to enter mech

tho I think that might be extra coding required for sock

[wraith lintel]

I'm drawing overwatch parralels again - there's a character there who has a shield that has a connected ability to it. If the sheild breaks, she has to wait for at some 1 hp of regen to pull it back out to use the bash ability

[drowsy isle]

brig

mhm

but wait

doesn't she need for it to regen to full

or is that rein

[wraith lintel]

and I cant help but think how silly it would be for her to need to wait some additional time for what might effectively still be one shot of damage

[wraith lintel]

neither of them need to wait until full iirc

its why you can see cracked rein sheilds being pulled out of nowhere

it can regen up to whatever 1200ish amount if you wait, but you can pull it out early to block big one source damage

like dva ults

same with brig

or wait

[drowsy isle]

im almost 100% sure rein can't put up a 1hp shield if his shield just broke

[wraith lintel]

maybe there's some 500 hp req

you are right

yeah yeah

[drowsy isle]

If the shield was damaged to 1hp

he can put it away

and bring it back out

if it was broken

he needs to wait

[wraith lintel]

no wairt

are we not just thinking about the broken shield mechanic

where if it hits 0

[wraith lintel]

it wont come out for 3 seconds

[drowsy isle]

5s

[wraith lintel]

yeah there we go

[drowsy isle]

which is basically the same as saying it needs to regen x hp

[wraith lintel]

i suppose so actually yeah

[drowsy isle]

I think mech technically needs to wait 3s to reenter if it breaks?

but

[wraith lintel]

yeah that sounds about right

[drowsy isle]

this would imply elsewise

[wraith lintel]

is that an acheivment

[drowsy isle]

Yes

[wraith lintel]

idk, i would see this as 'Run into the 3 second cooldown issue at least once'

maybe im vehemently agreeing rn

[drowsy isle]

but yeah I also just don't know if overhealth should completely block all sources of overflow damage

though that is a separate issue

li being able to remech with it so low and being able to instantly fire off a 36 dmg burst combo is the bigger thing maybe

[wraith lintel]

I was about to say cooldown on ability use right after switch and realized how stupid that is

[drowsy isle]

tbh I feel like the 3 units who need changes the most are

yahya (already planned )

li (I am talking to you about him)

and lowkey

theorick

maybe he will be made better by proxy of yahya being nerfed

[wraith lintel]

shout out to theorick who hasnt been seen since last year

[drowsy isle]

but rn he is kinda cheeks

ult is uh

kinda ass for how slow it builds

[wraith lintel]

chill

[drowsy isle]

m1s are uh

cosmetic

m2 is uh

funny but can only cancel like 2 relevant abilities

also I don't know if it actually interrupts charged abilities

like tom ult and yahya ult

if it does good for it

if it doesn't uh.......

the bubble

is good

fine and dandy

[wraith lintel]

the bubble is something

[drowsy isle]

the passive..........

wow

yeah you go buddy

you'll activate and be useful someday

like I don't like overhealth but maybe it could grant some to allies

cause like

theorick of all units getting a kill gives only himself overhealth that decays faster than li's ally granted overhealth

[wraith lintel]

its a good amount but yeah probably decays a lil fast

[drowsy isle]

Rant summarized for those who cba to read
li being able to enter mech on low hp after being demeched to instantly m1 m2 is wack
li being able to tank a billion damage from incoming attacks by entering mech with low integrity is wack
theorick is sadge but might be better when units around him get balanced (yahya, said other tank)

[drowsy isle]

35 to himself but he's also 0 movement capabilities so like

also questionable suggestion but maybe some very low passive hpr when out of combat?

tho ig that means you have to play around having or not having a hailey by fighting allies for health packs

or like pray for garwick to heal you in time before the enemies respawn and run you over

[pale ibex]

it does

[drowsy isle]

good to hear

[wraith lintel]

This is YahyaBrawl aka DrLizzard Brawl

[drowsy isle]

now they only have to decide if they either stun yahya out of ult with their projectile vs their hitscan

or to stun them out of their shift which obliterates him

and I could complain about tom m2 but that might just be a skill issue on my part

[feral hemlock]

if tom burst shatters my mech one more time I am gonna be so angry

[compact oak]

class tierlist:
s: yahya, hailey, tom
a: theo, gaw, li
b: rick, irlok

I think Tom deals too much damage for a hitscan class

[sullen sphinx]

i think tom is fine bc he requires skill to use him

and its not like yahya were u just had no chance in killing them

[compact oak]

i think the damage should be lowered for a bit instead of being a consistent -15 at fairly long range

Aiming with Tom is relatively easy since you dont have much mobilty

Also have fun playing him if you do not come from NA

[grave umbra]

Theo in a 🥀

[compact oak]

Theo would be higher if his M1 actually did something

[pure dagger]

Irlok way too low no?

At least A

[compact oak]

Hes excellent for holding and tanking sure but he deals virtually no damage without ult

[pure dagger]

Theo feels so shit in most games I play vs him

[compact oak]

Biggest problem comes from his M1's hitreg