New MIDs (Mage Ed)

[tall gale]

Slow impact: Meteor speed is decreased by 50%, decrease dmg of meteor/ophanim by 1% for each additional WS, increase DMG of meteor by x3

Freezing icicle: enemies affected by freezing sigil will generate an icicle in their head, hitting it with ophanim will explode it, dealing 50% Water dmg + 30% air dmg (10 seconds CD for each enemy) and healing allies near the enemy for 10% of water dmg

Paralysis: Casting teleport won't activate it, instead it will activate after 3 seconds, after casting it, gain 10% resistance for 4 seconds (10 seconds cooldown)

Let me know what do you think about them :))

[chilly gust]

Slow impact mid to save the colossus

[dark pivot]

slow impact is either weak or overpowered
freezing icicle is cool
paralysis is terrible. like why.

[chilly gust]

I think that mayheeee 3x meteor damage would be overpowered
Put it on a lvl 30 wand

[cloud garden]

hell no bruh this is ass

[south junco]

my name isnt mage but its fine

[chilly gust]

I can't react bc hami has me blocked ☹️

[south junco]

blocked=ragebait success

[cloud garden]

slow impact might be cool for a niche meme build

[chilly gust]

Slow impact would be op in tcc or nol where you don't need ws or precise aiming

[cloud garden]

fr

[chilly gust]

This time I was just disagreeing with their stupid take...

[south junco]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1183643736345952356/1302129344411471983/togif.gif

[tall gale]

timing TP is isanelly Underpowered, in a lot of games, timing movility is rewarded with certain equivalents, paralysis is easy to balance, you can use it in wars for example (monster solo builds could use it)

[dark pivot]

or hear me out

you could get out of the way just before you get hit instead of planning your escape 3 seconds before

[tall gale]

imagine that you have an aura, time it 3 seconds before it cast, cast looking upward, and keep attacking on the front and you dodge aura, get resistance and also keep your dps constant

[dark pivot]

is dodging aura that big of a dps loss? it's probably like 0.5-1s of a dps

[tall gale]

dodging is not a dps increase, but timing it correctly is a resistance increase which mean that you can tank a solo tower in a different way

[dark pivot]

look i don't war but i don't think 10% resistance is going to be a make or break

but then again, warrers got angry about paladin aspect losing 5% resistance

[tall gale]

mage doesn't have any resistance increase, consider than 10% increase on a 30k dps tower is 3000 hp each second

[naive finch]

mage ed can mean several things

[dark pivot]

like do you just take constant damage per second in wars?

[cloud garden]

it has a 10 second cooldown its not very useful bro

[cloud garden]

it isnt constant

[tall gale]

burst from aura/volley, constant from tower own dmg and enemies

[cloud garden]

❌

[tall gale]

not to mention it could be kinda nice for other situations like annie death ray timing or healers tracking

is not meant to be gamebreaking at every niche, but rather offers an alternative at a small yet unexplored niche

just like you wouldn't use slow impact at NoTG boss, you wouldn't use paralysis at LR

[dark pivot]

if there's a niche i don't see it

[tall gale]

i said 2 niche uses, Wars solo/duo and Annie

[chilly gust]

An alternative should be viable and not useless

[tall gale]

also to avoid telegraphed attacks, like gTCC and orphion if the timing is right

[cloud garden]

bro its kinda ass i feel like you should know that

[dark pivot]

but like... if you can predict the attack 3 seconds early
you can predict the attack 3 seconds later

[tall gale]

why is it kind ass?

[dark pivot]

like i assume you have basic counting skills

[cloud garden]

no one will be using this

[tall gale]

ok, without the MID you wouldn't get the resitance, if you avoid an aura correctly, you would still take dmg from tower and enemies

you would mitigate that dmg

[cloud garden]

bro you have 3 seconds to dodge aura btw

[tall gale]

did you read what i said ?

[cloud garden]

are you smart

[kindred palm]

no

i have difficulty discerning you’re and your

[tall gale]

which is a lot, like i said, using it correctly would mean 12k dmg mitigation

[kindred palm]

why would they replace an instant dodge tool with a predictive tool after 3 seconds with a very very mediocre effect

[cloud garden]

cause it offers a niche alternative duh

[dark pivot]

or hear me out
they could just dodge aura and heal up normally?

which if you're soloing with monster, you can heal that up

[kindred palm]

niche alternative of being bad

[tall gale]

healing tics doesn't work the same as resistance, resistance mitigates dmg without a waiting time while healing means that you have to wait, also you can couple both

[kindred palm]

yeah what if we just used tp as intended to dodge an attack

then it’s like 100% damage reduction

[tall gale]

what attacks are you avoiding on wars?

[dark pivot]

yeah i get it, the other attacks you can't exactly dodge
but you can heal those back up instantly

[kindred palm]

why are we balancing for medium solo wars

[tall gale]

medium?

[cloud garden]

you have less than half a second to look up and cast tp for a 10% resistance buff for 4 seconds

[tall gale]

im talking about high-very high monster solo

[kindred palm]

ok what about it 😭

[humble moat]

Op trash and trash

Insane balancing

[kindred palm]

just get a singular friend and your effectiveness triples

[tall gale]

yeah but you can do it both, is far more effective and safe

[tall gale]

multihit exist

[kindred palm]

yeah what about it

[tall gale]

this is meant to solo/duo

[kindred palm]

multi with two lbs is literally better

[humble moat]

Let's add +1040% dps on meteor
And the next mid makes ophanim do +80% dps every 10 seconds
And then the last one makes teleport delayed by 3 seconds?????

For 10% resistance

[tall gale]

.

[kindred palm]

that’s not an alternative if you must take it for 10% resistance

and it’s not like you can use it outside of wars anyways that delay is just too shit

[cloud garden]

you cant use it in wars anyways 😭

[chilly gust]

10 second cool down 4 second duration for 10% res to nuke your movement spell only useful in wars if it beats crafted recipes

[tall gale]

is meant to be used against situations like telegraphed attacks + unavoidable dmg or risky situations

[humble moat]

Slow impact is the most giga broken mid I've ever seen let's make wfa do the same dmg as etw

[low hinge]

just put it on underpowder / overpowered wand to suit

[kindred palm]

tp literally is better for every situation except unavoidable damage

why would i sit still for 3 seconds in the danger zone with resistance instead of just leaving

[cloud garden]

freezing icicle one is useless

[low hinge]

I'll react on your behalf. What say you, nabbywad?

[kindred palm]

it’s an alternative!!

[humble moat]

Freezing icicle doing a grand total of 3.5 damage

[tall gale]

wars is the case, how can you leave the dmg tower/enemies?

[cloud garden]

https://tenor.com/view/fig-gif-26092737

[humble moat]

80% DPS with a 10s cooldown

[chilly gust]

Thank you

[kindred palm]

@tall gale

[low hinge]

10% resistance is roughly nothing btw

[kindred palm]

so you want an “alternative” for like literally one singular scenario

[tall gale]

@kindred palm

[tall gale]

yeah

[kindred palm]

[dark pivot]

like i get that
but the niche is too niche

[low hinge]

ahh i see the idea. i dont think it'd work

[cloud garden]

its unusable bro unless you have 0 ping and react at the speed of light when you see aura on your screen

[kindred palm]

atp just pop a heff scroll

[kindred palm]

you don’t even dodge aura on solo war btw

i mean you can there’s just no point

[low hinge]

basically, yea.

[tall gale]

there is a point where tower dmg is higher than ur HP, no healing will keep you alive

[humble moat]

Yeah then don't solo???

[kindred palm]

10% dr is not helping you in this scenario

[low hinge]

on particularly hard solo towers, you should after a couple tower buffs.

[kindred palm]

debatable

[low hinge]

or just die? ok bro

[cloud garden]

debatable

[kindred palm]

if the aura damage is enough to one shot you the tower does too much damage per second (assuming it’s not literally 11/0)

[low hinge]

once tower damage hits like 11k, an aura crit kills.
i've had plenty of solo wars past that point where i lived bc i dodged aura

[kindred palm]

and if it’s not enough to one shot you one of two scenarios are true:
you outheal the tower (aura damage will be healed back and dps won’t kill you)
you are not out healing the tower (the damage kills you anyways)

[low hinge]

sunflare means you can outheal the tower damage for part of the time and not for some of it. time off sunflare + aura means you likely die

[kindred palm]

i see

so this is useful for literally one niche scenario where the damage is high enough but the attack speed isn’t

[low hinge]

hardly usable for either of those tbh. unless the weapon it's on is already great at those, nobody will use it.

[tall gale]

the concept of the item that had that was an accesory not armor piece or weapon

[kindred palm]

you should apply to ims twin

[tall gale]

also, nobody talked about healing with DMG instead of HP, is it a good idea?

[dark pivot]

so basially lifesteal but it actually works on damage and not via the stat we have

[tall gale]

i would love more squishy healer playtyles

[tall gale]

is teamwide ls

[low hinge]

i didnt even see this one

[tall gale]

because it heals the allies too, if they are close to the enemy is should work like a long distance heal

[kindred palm]

so more healing on the healing archetype… for what

[low hinge]

oh you mean the icicle one?

[tall gale]

yeah

[tall gale]

my idea for LB is to nerf base healing and add more flavour to healing playstyles

[low hinge]

ranged heal is a good idea.

[tall gale]

i love healers in all games

[kindred palm]

then it shouldn’t be a major id

[low hinge]

me too, and all other games have ranged heal xd

[tall gale]

i talked about that in a post

[low hinge]

hold on i have a post

[dark pivot]

add in the crusader's crossbow fr

[tall gale]

#1437211264744165448 message

this MID was supposed to be a node for LB

but i cannot concieve it rn with prayer mechanics for that rework, timing it with prayer charges seems like something difficult to think, but i might add it as a node or something

another MID that i had planned was that ophion orb could bounce to players healing them, but like seems hard to code

i would honestly love to have more healing mechanics in wynn, i would experiment will all of them

[tepid robin]

slow impact would create 4m dps builds

riftwalker would be good
i second this

fatal builds anyway have little-no ws
if its armor piece gg

[tall gale]

armor piece (and maybe a fabled wand would have that too)

[tepid robin]

ok gg 3m dps build tim

[tall gale]

however idk what to add to balance as a downside, meteor cost, -spell dmg or sometine else

with timelock it wouldn't matter with meteor cost

thats why i only added the MIDs without the items, because i suck at making ideas for items, just rebalances

[twin geyser]

Paralysis would have to be on a goated af item, because there’s just no reason to apply that kind of niche to a build, when just building more defense out does it

(I do like it, though, despite it not being all that good)

[acoustic rivet]

1 is just TCC nuker and terrible against everything else, 2 seems fine though that's a bit much for a MaId, and 3 is just a hellish unfun debuff that doesn't even have a meaningful upside.

[lavish robin]

let me quickly craft a -400% walk speed build

[honest badge]

omw with mage build but statue slap

[sick island]

wheres the wither impact MID that boosts explosive enterences aoe and dps and give overhealth and +10% defense in teleport lmao