#Hmelle situation

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edgy moon
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A recent patch revived Archer hmelle with a ghostly trigger and now it competes with the assassin. Great change.

Assassin got nerfed due to how raids changed and with competent party dps you cant setup on greg fast enough etc. Less ideal.

But what about other classes?

Warrior apparently has some bash hmelle with collapse or apocalypse too similar names. Idk the numbers nor how it works, but its strong enough to lootrun so its viable ig?

And then we have shaman and mage with like 1 or 2 melee abilities in the entire ability tree. If the class isnt intended to have anything melee focused as a design then its fine...

But why does mage have 2 hmelle powder specials major ids on mythic weapons? Lets compare the earth ones since assassin is purely oriented around quake, while archer thunder powder special is a bonus:
Gaias root is like less than 25% of assassins quake dmg (400k ish compared to 2m+ quake) and its targetting + travel time is doo doo. The end.

Even if it scaled with winded I dont think thats enough to be even considerable 🥀

wild thicket
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melle

steep ocean
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if it would scale with winded mage melee would be fine like for assasin just either buff satsu on quake too or have it not steal my marks on quake likent warrior hmelee well uhh sucks and you cannot buff it enough without mids if you do not want to make spell stupidly op likent shaman is well shaman yk pretty useless likent archer is cooking this patch like

fossil gate
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because IMs make whatever they want and wait for AT to support it 3 years later

steep ocean
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btw assasin in tna now has a hard time doing the dmg archer does

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so basically just swapped in how bad they are

restive harbor
edgy moon
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So this explains why toxo havent gotten a compensation in 4 years...
Also wdym "atree offers" in case of the gaia singu major ids

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Like if at least breathless made powders scale off winded but it has nothing 😭

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It would need to give like 250% boost on max winded to be close to assassins quake including downtime between satsujins

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Ignoring winded to begin with is reversed idea of hmelle. It should be upfront burst instead of getting stronger overtime

ionic sinew
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The hmelee situation is crazy

void jungle
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the hmelle situation is crazy

serene arrow
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I love hmelle

glad dome
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Warrior Hmelle Apocalypse is weird.

In terms of viability it is ok ig, but that is only because of the Dauntless Inferno MiD (up to 550K Dauntless, up to 120K bash and up to 100K main attack or something for a wopping 300-350K dps at 100% corrupted)
And you have like 50%ws and 60K+ ehp. So it is trying to be some sort of a tanky hmelle playstyle

But you can't take aggro if you don't take provoke. And taking provoke means you lose at least 20% of dps while in corrupted (You lose Overwhelming Rage).
So yeah, it is kinda weird and you are better of taking something else

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You can also take Insignia for 650K superconductor powder, for the funsies ig

marble pebble
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Superconductor miss so often that not even viable

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A lot of the major id added for mage are kinda baffling ngl

cold nova
# restive harbor Generally it's more the case that ims create things specifically based on what t...

Also most AT should be more generalistic, it doesn't make sense support to poison as a single node (maybe as an hybrid node) if the node won't make poison viable and wouldn't help poison-less build in any way, there is no point in specific nodes that doesn't help a little bit the build at the very least, with heavymelee is the opposite because a little help to melee could mean a big unbalanceable buff to heavymelee if not implemented correctly

glad dome
steep ocean
glad dome
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Is Epoch really that bad rn? (Also wanna know if Axiom is outnumbering it with the ghostly trigger change).

Alkatraz is viable though, I never said it is super strong or something. But hitting 400K avg dps is good

weak hemlock
steep ocean
glad dome