#Wynncraft needs an endgame boss that is free and easy to get to/respawn at with little downtime

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spare locust
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The title more or less says it all. The last few months I've been trying to practice builds that I spend a lot of LE on in an attempt to become useful on the battlefield (raids and anni).

The main thing I have to practice in raids are the bosses, which take about 4-6+ minutes to get to depending on the pfinder team and rooms (and that's not even counting the queuing downtime), if I'm running a new build, the last thing I want to do is charge headfirst into a boss, die, and either watch one person attempt to carry the rest of the party through the boss fight(s), or fail the raid because "i'm learning", it doesn't feel good to fail unprepared.

That said there were only 2 endgame alternatives I can try: Qira, and Legendary Island

Qira is by far the best and cheapest source of practice because it costs nothing to fight her, but because you can't respawn at The Hive, and Qira is an older boss with very annoying attacks you won't ever see yourself dealing with in anni or raids (Push/pull spell + web spell), it becomes genuinely exhausting when you have a low WS character return to Qira after losing to her.

Legendary Island.... No. A forced 12EB to enter and if the best you can do is in the bronze tier with a new build, that's a HORRIBLE way to practice and go even more broke if you don't come out of it with something to suffice for the multiple instances of 12EB you spent to get in there.

Wynncraft needs a best of both worlds for this. We need 1 endgame boss that's easily accessible that we can respawn at like LI, and costs absolutely nothing to fight like Qira. I would more than appreciate it if this was something considered in the future. There has to be more to practice on than a rune-burning activity (that takes 4-7 minutes to fight the actual thing you want to practice on), a free boss that's a walk-of-shame to get to should one fail, a gauntlet that has a irritating fee to entry that makes a player with "skill issue" go even poorer than they likely were, and a static damage sponge that you can spawn on a housing island for 32EB.

ashen nova
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wynncraft: godmaster

slow swallow
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is 12eb entry fee really that impactful

spare locust
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I spent 10 lives at qira

I won once.

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Imagine that on LI and I was trying to beat mummyboard

slow swallow
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one stack will get you entry into LI over 340 times

ashen nova
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you have a point, we should be able to rematch some bosses quick

spare locust
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just 1

ashen nova
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but man, qira? really?

spare locust
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give me 1 boss I can respawn at

ashen nova
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u could mention... orange wybel

spare locust
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idc if there's no bank

let me hit my head against the wall for 1 hour so I can finally fucking get it

ashen nova
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raid bosses

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or quest bosses... but qira is free to rematch

slow swallow
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I wouldn't be against some kind of wynncraft godhome I guess

ashen nova
slow swallow
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I think that's partially what world events were meant to be, refights of old quest bosses

wanton agate
ashen nova
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like shadow amadel

spare locust
ashen nova
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or tasim & aledar

round oasis
ashen nova
sweet meteor
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give Tasim an appearance in the postgame by making him a sparring partner

spare locust
ashen nova
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and those World Bosses should be added on the content book

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because world bosses are so much wasted potential

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before 2.1 we only had that one on the wynn plains secret discovery

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2.1 added the great bridge boss, which is cool... but also the only new world boss

slow swallow
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at least I think I did

eager grail
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it's not very repeatable

ashen nova
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-# (LI could need a rework...)

eager grail
restive palm
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12eb is fine u get money from quests players should have money

mossy tree
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It’s profitable because nothing usurps the value of the Outlandish Replica Face Mask of Legendary Victory.

south raven
ashen nova
south raven
ashen nova
spare locust
mossy tree
ashen nova
spare locust
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The only thing I reasonably value is my time

south raven
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Or just having the tokens for later.

ashen nova
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inhibitor sucks ass... but it's valuable since it's a very rare qira drop

spare locust
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and I wouldn't want my time wasted on something that actively takes from me

spare locust
ashen nova
ashen nova
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it's still untradable

round parcel
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bring back soul points

livid siren
spare locust
robust cipher
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raid gives you money if you win its pretty much free 👍

ashen nova
livid siren
mossy tree
south raven
ashen nova
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inhibitor reduces your damage and sustain entirely

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like, literally the only way u can deal damage with that is if u use poison

south raven
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It's basically just a trophy item.

ashen nova
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^

livid siren
mossy tree
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New rule, anyone who uses inhibitor in raids gets banned from raiding for 3 days.

spare locust
ashen nova
livid siren
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i like LI

south raven
spare locust
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ah

livid siren
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its how I test all my builds personally

ashen nova
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it's a useless item, just like LI helmets

round parcel
ashen nova
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but it's a trophy.... trophies are also useless irl

robust cipher
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amulet of rejuvenation

spare locust
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i didn't even know LI had rare drops too

south raven
ashen nova
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it's not a rare drop itself

south raven
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The helmets are bought from the merchants outside.

mossy tree
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The only drops LI bosses have are those tokens needed to progress

ashen nova
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u have to grind like

robust cipher
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384 li

south raven
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320 LI.

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It's 5 stacks for the max.

ashen nova
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thought you needed 6

mossy tree
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Are you sure you don’t want to become apart of the ones that own the Inconceivably Deranged Paper Mask of Legendary Victory?

south raven
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5 helmets, each need a stack and the previous tier.

south raven
spark lark
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I want to be able to summon tcc primeval machine as a practice dummy in housing fr

graceful charm
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costs absolutely nothing!

spare locust
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...what?

spark lark
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Guild attack command

ashen nova
south raven
# spare locust The title more or less says it all. The last few months I've been trying to prac...

Back to main point, I've done a ton of both, so I'll say something:
-Qira, in general, is an easy fight. Learning it is just trying not to get ganked by web or blindness tp. Weird that they don't have a spawn point at the Hive, but I guess that's because there isn't a potion merchant there.
-12EB, in the grand scheme of things, is nothing. If one raid gets you ~3-4LE, then that's 16-21 LI runs. Then you just resell the bronze tokens if you need the cash. I spent less than a stack total on 320, the cost is very manageable.

spark lark
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He’s right though that qira and LI are kinda sucky places for build practice

eager grail
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I'm at 194 LI runs and the cost is negligible but it still kind of sucks that you get paid like 10eb per run after fighting 10 extremely outdated bosses

south raven
spark lark
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At the end of the day, pfinder raid is #1 build test hotspot

south raven
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Albeit a small one.

spark lark
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You just need to do infinite bronze token hack to recoup the cost

eager grail
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LI is also just not a good pressure test for builds even if it does get reworked because every boss challenges you in essentially the same way

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since there's no environmental hazards and no truly dangerous attacks besides the close range oneshot that every boss has access to

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so any build that can just move out of the way will do fine

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whereas builds that can't move out of the way won't do fine (unless you have a lot of ehp)

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which isn't always the case in raids

spare locust
south raven
spark lark
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Puppet bomb 🔥

south raven
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Also abso acolyte can't really die.

spark lark
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So its technically correct

south raven
spare locust
spark lark
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Use a lower

south raven
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Just look down and spam totems.

spark lark
spare locust
inner tendon
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minor krill issue

spare locust
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and now another minute to get back to qira to try it all over again!

robust cipher
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im sorry why are we grinding qira

south raven
spark lark
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I didnt even know you could die at qira with pbomb

south raven
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Just pay attention to awakened timer.

robust cipher
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what do you even learn

spark lark
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At least when i was using it there for 10 kills

robust cipher
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its not like qira is a similar boss to like literally any raid bosses

south raven
robust cipher
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its outdated and just stands still and webs you what is the point 😭

spark lark
spare locust
robust cipher
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? 😭

south raven
spare locust
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Yeah did I mention today is my first day using PBomber

spark lark
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Ah nice

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Circle greg with pbonb

spare locust
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let's just say the growing pains is growing tiresome

spark lark
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Avoid melee attacks while circling

robust cipher
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ngl nex you need to remove the weird camera thing

spark lark
robust cipher
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pbomb is exceptionally reliant on moving backwards nad casting spells and your 3rd person moement thing is likely fucking it up

spark lark
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Its an unusual build for sure but it gets the job done really well

inner tendon
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yeah the animations and ddiff fov are very jarring just play normally in f5 😭

robust cipher
inner tendon
robust cipher
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so now ur just tossing totems literally the wrong way

spark lark
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Oh yeah probably dont use freelook

south raven
inner tendon
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im prob js not used to it then
sspells casting in thje wrong directions is not ideal anyay i supos

spare locust
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I have a key toggle for that

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so that's no issue, and for qira i've been doing just that

wooden sundial
robust cipher
shell raft
manic zenith
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@robust cobalt clip this one

sharp inlet
slate bolt
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Why is the 12eb cost the main complaint for LI if your current strategy is doing raids?

lost osprey
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literally AHC is exactly this
easily accessible from detlas and you pretty much go straight to the boss fight

slate bolt
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AHC is hunter’s calling? Im not too familiar, isnt that not repeatable once you do the quest

south raven
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No you can go back and do it.

slate bolt
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Oh cool

hallow fern
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YES PLEASE, this or some sort of raid boss practice mode. i wanna test funny builds without fighting outdated bosses or screwing over my teammates

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the eye is actually ok imo but it’s only got 5 mil hp and you have to go through eo

spark lark
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Its like a practice raid boss (its a raid miniboss tbf)

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Every other suggestion here besides just go raid (the thing we’re trying to avoid here) was just to go to random old content which may or may not have old wynncraft bullshit we all know and love

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Its not realistic for raid boss practice, and neither are training dummies in this case, so this would be a middle ground?

restive palm
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a good way to practice not dying is to get on a tanky build and not get hit

brittle bloom
leaden spade
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breathes in breathes out

mossy tree
frigid fiber
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honestly seems legit to me

tacit vault
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BZZT BZZT 🤖 ... here is your constructive feedback

robust cobalt
leaden spade
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how about we just make dummies fight back

tough kelp
robust cobalt
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ya'll I got some crazy material from this thread thanks

ripe plank
swift meteor
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Insane thread

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12eb entry fee for LI is apparently just wayyyyy too high

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And apparently the 30s wallback from thanos to hive is just wayyyyyy too much downtime

tough kelp
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And with a 1-100 difficulty scaling you can choose manually at any time

swift meteor
tough kelp
tacit vault
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the true big macca spirit

vital heath
plain mist
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Is this new age foxxo?

inner tendon
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might be onto somthing

pale swan
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we actually DID try putting a respawn point at Hive before but in testing it caused things to glitch out pretty badly- regularly in testing we would try it and end up triggering the fallback "Oops! Something went wrong. You have been respawned at Ragni." thing and we couldn't figure out why- this was with respawn points in each of the division rooms linked to send you to the Hive lobby. that, and especially when considering the fact Hive isn't (and won't be) a hub with amenities (that singular blacksmith no one uses notwithstanding) it was found to be a lot LESS convenient for most players, who end up having to intermittently drink potions. When they run out or are too low to continue, they'd have to do twice the walking to get to the Thanos potion merchant. I also recall asking about that publicly and getting similar answers(mostly "wouldnt be a problem if added bank" but it's easy to read between the lines and determine that to be a "no this would be annoying as is").

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and we're definitely not adding a town-like respawn point at Hive due to the proximity to Thanos and the fact that, again, this would just be inconvenient to reappear there compared to just popping back up at Thanos instead

inner tendon
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mewhen i have to spend 45 s movement spelling to the hive from thanos 🙀

ripe plank
# spare locust The title more or less says it all. The last few months I've been trying to prac...

I've noticed games with extremely short runbacks between fights end up being far more annoying because you feel locked into beating that content and have less time to ease up between fights.

Having a runback is important because it encourages players to do other content if they're struggling, and makes improving their build more of a priority because they're commmitting so much more time to each fight.

You should not be winning 1/10 fights against Qira even at level, and the game does not need to make it easier for you to torture yourself like that. Go do other content, improve at the game, or get back to build optimizing first.

inner tendon
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yeah a small run back lets you think about what you are doing wrong/cool off and not tilt super hard, but too long of a run back can be super annoying as well(please make it so you get sent to the furthest room you have unlocked in a division until you beat it 😭 😭 )

shut swallow
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isnt this a taste thing

ripe plank
inner tendon
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i mainly mean for struggling players who have to take multiple attempts on division bosses, like being forced to walk thru all 9 mini rooms on every death to the fire division leader is not very fun </3

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after u beat the divsion boss it should revert bck to how it is rn so that u can technically help other players thru the division if u want to/get tokens from the mini rooms to transfer to other classes if you are reallly silly

ripe plank
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or add a side-door which is skip-to-highest-completed-floor

pale swan
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We had some talks about a mechanic like that but weren't sure how to implement that. Bespoke UIs for stuff like that tend to be clunky, get outdated very quickly, arent the most obvious to players, and due to the lack of room in the lobby would likely require build changes, while doing it automatically can be confusing and troubling to groups trying to run through it together and is a lot tougher than it might sound to implement.

This isn't a "no", this is a "we havent figured out a feasible, functional, futureproofed, and understandable solution yet".

inner tendon
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very cool thank yo for answering like

spare locust
# pale swan and we're definitely not adding a town-like respawn point at Hive due to the pro...

A gripe I've had with Thanos is spawning at the bottom of town and getting disoriented at where the launch pad to the upper area is

Even so, a character with low ws has to sprint and movement spell to Qira, likely spending up all those resources and taking up more time from what could be practicing a a spell combo in actual combat

It's very bothersome to me because I'm prone to making several mistakes I don't recognize and get punished in more time/resources being wasted actually trying to do something useful

pale swan
leaden spade
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i can agree on the taking time to get back part, if ur doing many attempts over and over to practice the runback can be annoying

but did you know there was a place with many bosses that spawns you right at the entrance every time, this weird thing called LI

spare locust
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I've already gone over that.

robust cobalt
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have you considered improving at the game so you don't die several times?

leaden spade
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A forced 12EB to enter and if the best you can do is in the bronze tier with a new build, that's a HORRIBLE way to practice and go even more broke if you don't come out of it with something to suffice for the multiple instances of 12EB you spent to get in there.

shut swallow
tiny summit
leaden spade
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going broke over 12eb 🥀

wooden sundial
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12eb cant be that deep

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go run a 4 chal lr that alone is 12eb

slate bolt
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Do one (1) raid and you get 20 LI runs

wooden sundial
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true but you need to consider his raid wlr

slate bolt
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Ok if we account for rune costs for the lost runs itll still probably get you like 10 LI runs

plain mist
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Is nex stargaze the median wynncraft player? I understand the balancing now....

spark lark
spare locust
spark lark
shut swallow
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yall aint know the lore

spark lark
ripe plank
# leaden spade > A forced 12EB to enter and if the best you can do is in the bronze tier with a...

@spare locust
the average le return from each Prelude to Annihilation is well over 20le.
Finding a party that will carry you through annie is trivial but if you really need help dm me and I'll hook you up with someone.

20le is 1280eb which divided by the 12eb per attempt is 106.6... attempts.
over 100 attempts at LI just for getting carried through annie a single time.

ONE HUNDRED ATTEMPTS.
Beating P5 in Hollow Knight doesn't even take 100 attempts for most people, heck I wouldn't even be surprised if you could do it hitless after committing to that many attempts.
One hundred attempts at LI just for getting carried through annie ONCE.

You simply cannot say 12eb per attempt is remotely prohibitive.
You can't.
Please just admit you are mistaken.

shut swallow
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or you could just raid and get like 4-8 attempts worth

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probably more

slate bolt
spark lark
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You can also sell a draoi fair (52le unid rn for some reason) and get 200 runs 🤯

mossy tree
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You also have a higher chance of winning a raid than soloing LI as a newer player because you will in all likelihood get carried by some sweats.

spark lark
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Well also LI is just full of old bosses

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And old bosses are just EHP checks lol

vivid knot
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almost all li bosses have no cci so some builds dont work because the boss spends the whole time flying above u

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apart from robob

spare locust
# ripe plank <@797073693141499925> the average le return from each Prelude to Annihilation is...

When I look at a price to entry, I always think about how failing is a net negative

The reason I scorned LI as a way to practice how to engage with endgame content with a new set of dis/abilities and weapons is because the net negative is whatever pitiful amount of LE I have left and saved for future mythic build purchases

Another thing I don't do is casually walk around with more than 1 LE on me out of habitual fears of dropping it somehow, and also saving myself from making any poor purchases on hand somehow (yes it doesn't make sense but it's just a habit I store my LE in my bank and stick to whatever is less than 1 LE in my pouch)

The idea that to practice is to lose money while figuring out how to maneuver around an enemy and attack, is beyond absurd. Maybe it's entitled, but the biggest incentive to a cost is the binary reward and punishment

Complete a raid? Get money, tomes, and aspects at the cost of 1 rune

Fail a raid? Get nothing at the cost of 1 rune (and however much time you spent on said raid)

LI is worse.

Complete LI? Get tokens that can be exchanged for items at the cost of 12EB.

Fail LI? Get nothing at the cost of 12EB.

Now raid runes are their own pricing issue I could be bothered about, but typically there are enough free activities that feed you these things like a candy dispenser at the mall, but LI's emerald fee?

Nah. I have exploded at Corkus Virus Doctor enough times to know that my money shouldn't be wasted on trying to figure out how to move with a low ws build that does stupid damage/heals at a place that can siphon over an LE of attempts

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That's why I proposed free endgame boss that you can respawn at (assuming you haven't done AHC apparently)

spark lark
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Dang, i bank LE from my pouch when it exceeds a stack, and i thought i was crazy for that

slow swallow
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btw you know theres a boss pretty much straight off detlas main square

spark lark
round parcel
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12eb is the equivalent of some spare change I'm sure you'll be fine

slow swallow
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im not talking about annie

spark lark
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I dont car

shut swallow
# spare locust When I look at a price to entry, I always think about how failing is a net negat...

ok but li is a challenge first and foremost which happens to be used occasionally as a benchmark for build testing, your misunderstanding of it being practice for endgame content is on you when 1. it very clearly has an upfront cost 2. it is dissimilar to other such content in question with it having old systems in place, it is on you as the player to recognize that your gameplay and/or build would need improvement if you are repeatedly failing on such content and in this case losing your currency to it

there are already plenty of content which are in fact free to do so (boss altars/dungeons farming entry reqs urself, lootrunning, world events etc.) and you dont need to be in combat situations to practice simple gameplay like spell cycles (u have a housing island with combat dummies)

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also corkus virus doctor cmon bro

slow swallow
shut swallow
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this music some ass

spark lark
# slow swallow

Does this require ahc on every testing class or just 1 just curious

slow swallow
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uhh every testing class i think

spark lark
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I think i remember it being brought up here that having to redo ahc makes it bad

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But i wasnt even sure if you had to, thanks for clarifying

shut swallow
spark lark
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Ts thread is so ancient why are we still here to suffer

shut swallow
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yea this has already been circular asf might as well lock ts

spark lark
spare locust
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I was gone in 2 hits

spark lark
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Oh dont stand still

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You kite, move backwards or diagonally

shut swallow
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yeah you dont stand still as pbomber in like every single content ever

tough kelp
spark lark
shut swallow
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took the raid bosses are combat dummies theory to heart

tough kelp
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You move to avoid attacks obviously, unless you're playing abso or guardian

spark lark
tough kelp
spark lark
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Pbomb also takes greg aggro really easily so you can just circle him with walkspeed to keep him still

spare locust
# spare locust When I tried PBomber for the first time a few days ago I was told to look down ...

The reason why I need content to freely practice on is because what I can do to a dummy I cannot do to a giant worm, a deer dog that embodies light, a giant golem, and a twisted anomaly

Practice, or something feasible to understand how to effectively use your attacks while moving, shouldn't cost anything, nor should it involve outdated bosses as substitutes for those 4 things I described earlier

shut swallow
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if anything it is not on the devs to tailor make content because of you lacking initiative towards learning the playstyle of your build

spare locust
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"Lacking initiative"

Do you want me to throw on raids and use the excuse "I'm learning"

That doesn't even go well in Marvel Rivals, what makes this game any different

spark lark
shut swallow
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and then you take your build to raids

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novel idea i know

spare locust
spark lark
spare locust
spark lark
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Ive seen the stalk once

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Its not genuine advice its just the only new model boss i know of with 0 upfront item cost

tough kelp
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You can run dungeons, boss altars, raids, quests, LI, lootruns...

spare locust
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Reasonable

spark lark
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This is how i tested and came to dislike my most recent sunstar build

tough kelp
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Like do you really need a boss where you can get back to in less than 5 secs upon dying, that you're payed to do, thats just the right difficulty for you

spark lark
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Same with oly summoner a while back

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You just build it, get the cycle down decently, and then go raid

shut swallow
# spare locust You're revolving this into a circle

you indicated that you are struggling due to your own lack of understanding of how to play your build which would mean it would be ill advised to go into team content e.g. raids without learning to play

ive already said several methods which are free as opposed to li (which you complain about having a cost although meager) where you could do so

please do not respond with non-sequiturs

tough kelp
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In that case I'd argue i need a prof hub with every mat in the game thats hunted safe, you can tp to from towns, has enough nodes to infinitely cycle and can be terr boosted

spark lark
tough kelp
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Devs hate proffers clearly

spare locust
tough kelp
spark lark
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Also I started raiding with a shitty spleen splitter -> toxoplasmosis

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Its ok to start from nothing lol

spare locust
shut swallow
tough kelp
spark lark
shut swallow
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can we please just lock this thread

tough kelp
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You don't need crazy builds to clear raids, it'll just be a bit slower

shut swallow
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genuinely nothing is going to come out of this

spark lark
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But then i got an aftershock lol

spare locust
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I went to guard because I like paladin as a concept in other media

spark lark
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Real

spare locust
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And mistakenly thought I could just be a light knight in Wynncraft

spark lark
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Im playing paladin in bg3 rn

spare locust
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Only to find out I'm a disgusting fast food item

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But that's besides the point

spark lark
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Just practice

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You have a pbomb and a boltslinger build yes? Just raid on them in pfinder

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Theres no better options

tough kelp
shut swallow
cloud rampart
vivid knot
shut swallow
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I for one am an American PQTRIOT and Big Mac Represents Our Country Blessed By God!

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Burger First 🇺🇸 🇺🇸

swift meteor
swift meteor
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also mentioning tcc there is quite ironic

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he is basically an oversized combat dummy

cloud rampart
swift meteor
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i think you are underestimating how confortable you can get with a build by just cycling and messing around with dummies

spare locust
shut swallow
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ok whos fault is that

swift meteor
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just practice with cycling while running circles around a combat dummy

spare locust
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Yeah no one really told me it was glassy, and when I found out the hard way I wasn't pleased

shut swallow
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ok???

swift meteor
spare locust
leaden spade
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yk you can figure out its glassy by urself by looking at the build link's listed ehp

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just a little reading exercise

shut swallow
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this isnt a rhetorical question

spare locust
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I just remember being recommended PBomber and looked at Sugo's tutorial to get some understanding of it

shut swallow
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thats what you did before

leaden spade
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they never told me id be glassy

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shut swallow
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i need to stop reacting with lightbulbs man

swift meteor
cloud rampart
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How did you not see that? I remember you saying that you’ve tried a shit ton of builds. Do you not look at dmg, ehp, mana?

shut swallow
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new method: 🔋

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full battery reaction tap in

cloud rampart
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What do you look at when you open a wynnbuilder link?

leaden spade
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especially as someone who ends up finding out every build is "bad" it would make sense to be skeptical of the stats of something ur recommended

shut swallow
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im more skeptical of the playstyle

spare locust
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As well as the skill points and ability tree

cloud rampart
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and you've tried a build for each archetype right?

spare locust
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By now I've played a build for all of shaman, "all" of archer, and 2/3 of assassin and warrior

swift meteor
vivid knot
cloud rampart
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gotcha. idk man, if you've tried a build for every archetype and haven't found success.. SCstare

swift meteor
cloud rampart
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I genuinely think the pacing of the gameplay might not be for you if you're still struggling these days

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what other types of games do you play? there's no shame in not doing well in fast games

swift meteor
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let's just get you on pala monk bash scream hero

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0% chance of fucking that up

leaden spade
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you underestimate his power

willow plinth
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How are you 27 bro

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No hate bro all love 🤞

shut swallow
# cloud rampart I genuinely think the pacing of the gameplay might not be for you if you're stil...

i mean he's repeatedly been given advice from his guild in game and here in wynncord with both disparaging eachothers advice due to his admissions of repeated failures as well as selectively dismissing points with red herring arguments (e.g. he refuses to use morph as a budget option because the community said its cringe) which indicates deeper fundamental issues of how he interacts with the game

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track record and all

cloud rampart
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that's exactly what I'm thinking, I think that he's genuinely just playing combat wrong fundamentally too, in the most respectful way possible

leaden spade
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give advice and you'll be at the heart of a strawman fallacy

cloud rampart
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as if you took someone that's only ever played strategy games and thrown them into a hack n' slash

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but, they have +1k hours, no?

leaden spade
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so i was told

cloud rampart
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if you've tried every option available, and are still making such foundational errors (bad movement, bad aiming / camera work, not knowing target threat ranges), maybe the game just isn't for you

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I've seen the eye fight, I've seen the mummyboard fight on abso

west nexus
cloud rampart
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he hates mage because of 2022 mage or something iirc

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idk man.

spark lark
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Enable stances aspect and fanatic mask on the website for a realistic ehp

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Since you’re like always on fanatic/awakened

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The crafteds are negotiable, you might have similar ones from another build like spring bolt

vivid knot
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dex cancel spring is not real

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just play divzer atp

swift meteor
round parcel
spark lark
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I think (i havent read the sugo pbomb in a while)

pale swan
spark lark
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I mean im the one who said it was a good safe build

sour rain
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you arent even that glassy tbh

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considering you should always have awakened up, which gives res + high ws

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so you are fine unless you eat attacks, which shouldnt be a problem with high ws from awakened

graceful charm
sour rain
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and if it is too difficult to avoid attacks with high ws while looking downward in f5 then dont play pbomber i guess

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honestly t1 ritu is fine

graceful charm
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well t1 is, but t0 isnt

sour rain
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oh i misread

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sob

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pfind for a few hours when it is in pool challenge

spark lark
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It took me way too long to get first ritu aspect lol

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Stances is the most important one

wooden sundial
graceful charm
west nexus
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surely he has at least t1

spark lark
wooden sundial
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wait he's not new?

spark lark
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But the sugo build link doesnt list the aspects, the video does though

cloud rampart
graceful charm
west nexus
wooden sundial
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damn i was expecting him to be like a hatchling who got mc account

graceful charm
wooden sundial
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wtf 1.5k is wild

spark lark
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He just played alot of tank

wooden sundial
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nex you gotta lock in bro

spark lark
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Hes just switching off and looking for guidance on dps

graceful charm
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i see

wooden sundial
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get him on monster rw

spark lark
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He said no mage lol

graceful charm
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well im guessing he doesnt have enough le for a meta build

spark lark
robust cipher
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pbomb is so good and meta 💔

spark lark
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And oly

wooden sundial
robust cipher
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ultimate jack of all trades build

sour rain
spark lark
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Yeah thats exactly what i said

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Pbomb best pfinder build

sour rain
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are u gonna call hp pots prohibitively expensive

graceful charm
robust cipher
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blocked

graceful charm
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3 charges is 1 eb no? so a full 30 is just 10eb...

sour rain
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36 pots is like

wooden sundial
sour rain
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same as li

graceful charm
wooden sundial
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final boss of panic healing

sour rain
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nah lowk i feel him i do that too

robust cipher
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panic zealot mention

spark lark
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Bruh this is just bullying now lol

wooden sundial
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he unironically does tho

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like all the clips I see from this guy he starts chugging after being hit once instead of moving away

sour rain
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spamming heal pots is valid its just funny you complain ab li price when pots are likely costing you more

sour rain
robust cipher
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idk lowk i think he just gotta practice like spellcasting while moving and getting to the point where he doesn’t need to think about cycle and focus on movement instead

sour rain
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get him on hunted mode

wooden sundial
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I can't tell sometimes cause of his animations mods

shut swallow
robust cipher
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like no flame idk it’s hard to learn if you aren’t super used to games where moving and shooting is like a core gameplay mechanic

sour rain
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i love mobends ❤️

robust cipher
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especially when it’s not keybinds to do stuff and it’s like rhythmic combos

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unironically a lot of brainpower needs to go into maintaining cycles when ur not used to them

sour rain
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ok well u can use wynnspellcaster and just make it keybinds

shut swallow
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shoulder surf reloaded should just be disallowed atp

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nobody should have to play on this

wooden sundial
robust cipher
sour rain
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gg

robust cipher
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idk many other games where like clicking a little too fast cucks you

swift meteor
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legit just put him on to jsmacros

robust cipher
swift meteor
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for no reason in particular i believe this user could benefit from jsmacros

wooden sundial
round parcel
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cps should be uncapped

robust cipher
wooden sundial
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weird feels faster to me

robust cipher
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integers only

wooden sundial
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might just be all the 350ms gameplay

shut swallow
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the api method

shut swallow
robust cipher
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well

shut swallow
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like key press events

swift meteor
robust cipher
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remove the bloat mods 💔 would be my answer

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oh i meant default wynntils

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i’m too wynntilpilled

shut swallow
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yeah wynn itself no can do

spark lark
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Oh yeah pbomb no spellcast mod/wynntils caster sucks

shut swallow
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could just rebind them to be closer tho

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still 2/4 spells albeit

robust cipher
spark lark
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Ok

robust cipher
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idk huge news for the unemployed (me) i guess

spark lark
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It sounded like you all were suggesting macros

robust cipher
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more like wynntils macros are not good imo

spark lark
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I havent tried any others tbh

manic zenith
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bro

spark lark
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Wynntils ones have no issues for me

robust cipher
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just wish they had some more flexibility for timing

shut swallow
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isnt wynntils macros technically multi spell with queues and thus breaking server rules

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still ass regardless

spark lark
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Not queued no

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You can hold down the bind to loop but thats allowed

robust cipher
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it feels like there is a buffer to me idk

spark lark
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Single spell loop

shut swallow
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yeah i can attest to this

spark lark
robust cipher
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with like other macros you press 2 at the same time and you will combine the two

spark lark
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But wynntils works so closely with wynncraft that whatever is in the mod is likely vetted

robust cipher
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wynntils you can press it before the other spell is ending and you’ll get them in proper order

shut swallow
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apparently wynntils devs reached out to simple wynncraft spellcaster for them to remove spell queueing

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what did they mean by this

swift meteor
spark lark
tough kelp
vivid knot
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i have alts inbetween every boss room of LI with altruism and hpr builds so i can fast heal between every fight

sour rain
spark lark
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And then some wynntils devs get frustrated and then create a fork called neowynntils

sour rain
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🔥

spark lark
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Quilttils

slate bolt
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i dont mean to belittle you i just think you're making a mountain out of a molehill

robust cobalt
spark lark
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You could literally turn everything off and it becomes vanilla minecraft with a minimap lol

vivid knot
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i do think they should have more stuff disabled by default ngl

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like i can definitely see it being information overload for a new player

robust cobalt
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yeah

inner tendon
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me when i download wynntils only to enable 3 features out of the 2000 million bloat features they have

tacit vault
robust cobalt
ripe plank
spare locust
ashen nova
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feedback mute when?

tough kelp
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And if you don't die at first boss, you get some great accessories

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But like if you're not ready to do 1 raid to fund 15 LI runs idk what to say

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If you just care about profit just never leave detlas again and market flip

tropic laurel
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has anyone in this thread mentioned you can just buy bronze rings after finishing the whole thing and just selling them to the blacksmith? you actually get on average more than the entry cost if you buy 4-5 rings...this is of course if you actually finish the run after beating dr legendary

ashen nova
tropic laurel
livid siren