Change Build Stand Level Requirement

[past raptor]

I was switching build between two of my warriors today, and I got informed that I cannot switch my builds because one of my warrior is lvl 106 and the other is 105. There is literally no differences between these two levels, please change this so that i don't have to level the other warrior to 106 as well

And also, If ever place your build onto a build stand once with your level 106 character, that build stand stays at lvl 106 even if you take your regear your armors up, making it unusable to other characters unless you destroy it

[carmine spear]

i have a better one

remove / rework entirely build stands

those things are so buggy that some people recommend not using them because they can dupe or delete your gear

[latent tulip]

erm ackshually the 5 hp difference between level 105 and 106 is essential to keeping things balanced

[rare bobcat]

does anyone have ANY evidence or personal experince with this happening in a way directly related to a build stand?
I've seen so, so many people saying their buggy but half my guild uses them and has never had issues even in very laggy conditions (i.e. right before annie within the first week of its release), but never once have I seen someone personally say they've had it void items much less provide a clip of it happening.

[icy rapids]

Your second character is just lacking the aura

[rare bobcat]

106 doesn't give more hp, it's purely cosmetic. Build stands are the only system that treats it differently from 105. Even level scaling treats it the same as 105 I'm pretty sure.

[carmine spear]

one of my guild mates actually got their entire build duped and had to sell everything to the blacksmith to avoid accidental bans

[rare bobcat]

and surely there are screenshots/recordings of this since it would have persisted and you could easily show that you had two copies of the same item, right?

[carmine spear]

in those times, wynn mods didn't care about your proofs

you were just a duper for them

it's not common tho

[rare bobcat]

you're required by the rules to document and report any severe bug you find, and have always been allowed to verify them

[tawny cedar]

protip destroying a build stand will delete all items on it

so dont do that

[rare bobcat]

it ruturns them to the owner's inventory, we've tested it repeatedly.

[carmine spear]

this is one of the few features

[tawny cedar]

its supposed to

[rare bobcat]

-# not sure how it works if their inventory is full or they're offline btw.

[carmine spear]

that it's BEST adviced to NOT use so u can avoid tragedy like losing expensive items

[tawny cedar]

its bugged as of rn

[carmine spear]

build stands in general have to be reworked

not sure how tho, since another bank for gear could be very OP

[tawny cedar]

putting items on them are chill just dont break them

[carmine spear]

or useless, since we already have 4 different banks

[rare bobcat]

has this been reported yet?

[tawny cedar]

months ago i believe

[carmine spear]

account bank
character bank
bookshelf for tome storage
misc bucket

[tawny cedar]

or a month ago

everytime you login itll just sayu its returned to your inven when it hasnt been

[rare bobcat]

giving them physical presence in the world, espeicially when they're on your guild island, adds a lot to the MMO experience since other people can see your builds, you can share spaces, and you're interfacing with physical entities instead of a GUI.

[rare bobcat]

Wynn needs an escrow or whatever it's called on Hypixel where items you obtain but don't have room for are stored until you claim them.

it would fix the half dozen feedback posts complaining about not being able to claim large orders off of TM, and it would give a proper system for build stands to return items.

[tawny cedar]

first report known

[rare bobcat]

if a feature is known to be broken in a way that can consistently void items, it should be disabled instantly until the issue is resolved.

[covert viper]

people have been saying that for the last 3 years lol its not happening

[hallow ivy]

People have been saying that for the last 3 years like the devs haven’t fixed the issues reported back then

Like I’m not gonna say “build stands will never delete your items” but devs have gone back and fixed them before which is not to say a different version can never happen again

Is every bug fixed? No lol
Are all the bugs about build stands still there? No lol

[tawny cedar]

yeah i have never seen a bug where just putting an item on a stand and leaving the island will delete them

but the housing cleaner is a pretty bad bug, i know one of the forum reports showed a full laby build being deleted

[valid yacht]

was there not a case this past year where a bunch of stuff was deleted

I remember a collector losing a decent amount from item displays/build stands

sure the bugs can be fixed but the real problem is there's no compensation or rollback that can/will be done

so imo its not worth using until theres some real precedent of it being safe

[tawny cedar]

yeah i think the no rollback policy on these bugs are kinda dumb

[latent tulip]

yea i wouldn’t mind the bugs if there was even a chance of having your items returned, but you’re pretty much cooked if it happens

[hallow ivy]

This is totally valid criticism but the thing is it isn’t easily solvable

Rollbacks can break things, nobody can spawn items on live, and even if somebody could I don’t believe we can set stats manually

If let’s say mods could spawn items people would have an issue with it, if they can’t people have an issue with it (both sides are valid)

[hallow ivy]

There totally could have been, my only point is bugs do get looked at and fixed but people don’t know they’re fixed and keep saying it isn’t when they have no idea

[valid yacht]

I think this could stem from the fact that wynn doesn't like broadcasting bug hotfixes if that bug is/was abusable