Reward skill in raids

[empty geyser]

I mostly play tna so im almost just going to talk about tna in this thread but all raids have a lot of similar problems so pls fix them all

I think raids are to easy. Maybe newer and less experienced players dont agree, but most people i play and talk with also think that raiding is lowkey just an afk simulator until you get to boss. Once you get to boss you a pretty easy boss for 20 seconds to 2 minutes depending on what raid you play . (maybe you dont think its easy the first 100 times you fight them but all bosses have like 6 attacks, its pretty easy once youve seen them a few times).

The way i see it there is two ways to make raiding more fun, either increase the difficulty of the raid, or make it so you get rewarded for not afking in rooms. Difficulty increase punish the less experienced players, so rewarding skill is probably the better idea.

So how do we reward skill? Here im just going to talk about tna but there is changes to be made for all raids i just dont play them as much. Also not every idea here is perfect, but at least I would prefer to have it this way.

Also maybe everyone call the different rooms different things but i think its obvious what room i talk about from context.

I want to make it clear that the goal here is not to make the rooms faster than what they already are now, just that you get rewarded for not afking.

Room 1
Stump room: This is one of the worst rooms in the raid, one person afks while the other people have to cast a spell or two every 10 seconds. Instead i think all void holes should spawn at the same time as soon as the timer starts, and every time you kill a hole you get like -5 sec on the clock just like tcc lava room. You would probably have to decrease the dmg of the holes but the player standing in the middle would still be at risk for dying since theyre now way more at the same time. The timer could be 2 minutes long to compensate for the time you save.

**Berry **: Here skill already matter somewhat for the person holding berry(still pretty easy), but maybe the other 3 ppl should have something to do other than just defending berry holder. Its so easy one person is enough to defend while the other 2 afk . Also the void holes are so buggy, sometimes the attack doesnt registrer

Room 2
In general i think both room 2 are already good but i still have some things to say about them

**Tree room: ** Being inside of the tree is very fun, and also being good at tree saves a lot of time. For the other 3 ppl however its pretty boring. Everyone should have to do something similar to being in tree, if all 4 players are good the room goes faster but it should be soloable.

Light room: I think all of the enderman should spawn in instantly instead of them sometimes being delayed. Also maybe make the range you are safe in longer in the beginning, but it slowly goes closer to light holder as the time goes, until eventually the raid fails. This would be cool

Room 3
Void matter After collecting 4 void matters the room is fun, but the collection is so bad. 2 easy parkours and 2 easy minibosses

Bulb: This competes with stump for the worst room in the raid. Afk for 20 sec, kill a mob, repeat 2 times more. Its legit 80% just waiting around. Very badly made in my opinion. Instead, have three cages holding the bulb guys, and one cage open every 20 seconds. The cages also have hitpoints (alot of it), but if you kill the cage you release the bulb person and you can get to it faster and thus get rewarded for not afking on the blue rock

This is just my ideas feel free to critize and come up with other solutions.

I didnt talk about the boss in this thread, but maybe another time since i do have some things to say about that as well.

In my opinion, the mazeroom in nol is one of the best rooms in the game. All players have to participate, but even if you are new you can still complete it altough it takes more time.

[hybrid spade]

wynncraft if guild raids just became a public hard mode

https://tenor.com/view/mundo-feliz-onetreehsll-world-if-gif-14071235670792471304

[worldly bear]

you will do golem room and you will like it

[empty geyser]

ok boss 😭

[sacred harbor]

Tree would be cooler if the outside people had some way to find and communicate the isoptera location to the person in tree

Kind of like wings tcc

Its not needed but its what you’re probably looking for

[split wraith]

I get the idea from the stump room. But your idea makes it slower since the 6 voidholes only reduce a total of 30 seconds while the timer is increased by 1 minute.
Berry is somewhat hands free until the one who holds the berry is lost and forgot where the voidholes are.
The tree room doesn't mention any fix, but its already good so idc rly
The light room could be interesting, as deaths by the first player moving too fast are common, and there is no loss except time going slow.
Void matter is the resource room that is the most fun of all, I wouldn't call it bad. also no fix suggested.
Bulb also has an issue with waiting around and your idea is alright ig

[empty geyser]

i had no idea it was just 6 holes that spawned 😭

or that it was a fixed amount

[split wraith]

Also this ig.

this gets both reacts

[sacred harbor]

Im not sure your complaint about void matter room, its pretty much as skill based as you can get with the concept

[worldly bear]

just make it so that killing voidhole spawns in the next one after a small delay, max of like 12 voidholes

[sacred harbor]

It USED to be timegated because in the past you couldnt get 4 to destabilize the void holes

So you got all 4 matters and then waited like a minute for the boss lol

[lime ibex]

Boss

Make vertical hole cover 80% of the arena width, and make it always run horizontally at 3x speed to ensure good area coverage.

Make the aerial black hole that spawns cast watched beams on a random player while its alive.

Allow watched totems to spawn in random locations, and add 2 decoy totems that will kill the player if they attempt to break it.

[empty geyser]

yeah the room is probably the most skillfull of them all but i just feel like both the bosses and pks are underwhelming

[indigo warren]

another peanuts post has hit the constructive feedback

[worldly bear]

that 2nd one is devious 😭

[lime ibex]

but think about it.

[empty geyser]

this one is frfr 😭

[indigo warren]

surely right

[empty geyser]

have you read it

[worldly bear]

make it not despawn and give it a healthbar 💡

[indigo warren]

not yet lol

[lime ibex]

make it like new sun dps check!

[empty geyser]

its longer than most things i type for school 😭

[lime ibex]

team wipes after staying alive for long enough because the watched beams became too frequent

[sacred harbor]

Honestly from the title and the first paragraph i thought you were gonna say “higher stats people get more rewards”

I was legit gonna say “noo damage farming!!”

[empty geyser]

im nr 1 dmg farmer

💸

id love to hear smth from the ppl downvoting 😭

[deep belfry]

Make Raids hard again

[peak falcon]

good thread but unfortunately will never happen

[empty geyser]

i know 🙁

[worldly bear]

who tf is downvoting this 😂

[deep belfry]

pls js add this ong

[vale anchor]

ppl who don't raid tbh

[worldly bear]

god forbid tna stops being an afk walk in the park

[peak falcon]

this game is borderline reaching unplayable with how god awful the ping is

which is why most people have just given up on raiding

[empty geyser]

nr1 cause of deaths in raid...

[hybrid spade]

so you agree the others sucked?

[deep belfry]

I Love getting Stump, tree and bulb in tna and Just afking for 4 minutes

[empty geyser]

they were fr this is frfr

[empty geyser]

i can see why ppl dont agree with what i say but tbh i stand behind what i said

only one person has said why they downvote and that was after agreeing with 80% of my points 😭

maybe im not very loved...

[lime ibex]

the downvoters are tna throwers confirmed

[eager rain]

Peanut starting on the ragebait redemption arc?

[civic sorrel]

i love this idea nut i think that the rewards in tna should scale based on how much boss damage you do. the amount of times where my team has died and i have spent 20 minutes killing the boss with big mac just to get rewarded with a measly 1 le.

[eager rain]

No

[lime ibex]

if u do less than 10% dmg u get no rewards!

[eager rain]

Let's just invalidate tanks completely ok?

[lime ibex]

gg guys we fixed bigmac

[civic sorrel]

i am consistently doing 40%+ because im being forced to solo boss all the time

[lime ibex]

not all heroes wear capes

[civic sorrel]

personally i think the boss health should scale down every time someone dies so it doesnt force you to kill a 20m hp boss every raid

[lime ibex]

stack all team buffs on dps > all buffers /kill > WR

[sacred harbor]

Df carry NOL

[civic sorrel]

i think moderators should punish people for intentionally /killing it happens to me way too much when im raiding

[sacred harbor]

no it doesnt

[lime ibex]

/kill usage in general just sends a really bad message

[civic sorrel]

there should be a reputation system in the game where if you /kill in raids too often you get temp banned

[sacred harbor]

I thought we were doing ragebait not lying

[civic sorrel]

?

[lime ibex]

we should add a /votekill though

[civic sorrel]

i dont like this idea because ive been soloing many times and everyone else in the party is like do /kill and im like do you want to comp the raid or not

[sacred harbor]

I would much rather have the ability to leave a raid than a vote kill

[lime ibex]

/votekill is nullified if your dps exceeds 200k

[sacred harbor]

If the bigmac wants to solo for his rewards, let him, leave me out of it

[lime ibex]

actually just teamwipe if team dps dips below 200k during active dmg phases for 10s

[sacred harbor]

Thats over a selv so it wont happen

[civic sorrel]

not sure what you are suggesting

[hollow rain]

breaking news: player that is not real has never played tna

[empty geyser]

:doom:

[sacred harbor]

I mean if you asked me, i probably would of forgot the exact number too

[hollow rain]

tbh it took me like 5 raids to realize they were fixed

[worldly bear]

all the downvoters are ragebaiters 🥱

[sacred harbor]

I dont really pay attention to the room

[empty geyser]

Thats how you know its afkable

[hollow rain]

??? what about your perfect speedrun times

[worldly bear]

@halcyon panther why you downvote 😡

[sacred harbor]

I mean its a timegated room

[civic sorrel]

timegated rooms are the worst things in this game why cant you reward skill like any other mmorpg

[sacred harbor]

Forced 1 min + time to get to platform

[civic sorrel]

a game like skyblock is so much better because clearing the dungeon for example is purely skill based

instead of time gated like raids in wynncraft

[hollow rain]

purely grind-based

[sacred harbor]

I mean its literally just a few rooms in the game

[tidal hedge]

I would like a harder TNA raid but this would be really hard on new players

[sacred harbor]

Used to be more but they removed them 2.1

2.1 Lava room is a great example of fixing timegates

[tidal hedge]

Would be up for a harder mode with greater rewards(yeah ik g raid but g raid isn't rly much harder)

[civic sorrel]

i would say they are all harder except tna tna is actually easier

because you only need to do 2 watched instead of 6

[tidal hedge]

It also depends on your build and what you play most

[sacred harbor]

Also the added nothing burger specs which means its less threatening

[civic sorrel]

to be fair the eye bombs hurt a lot

[sacred harbor]

The purple eyes got patched and dont hurt much anymore

[civic sorrel]

the giant void hole in the middle does nothing

the black hole is just an anti flying attack but who is playing flying builds

[tidal hedge]

Most of the new attacks actually help you because they are so weak

[tawdry gale]

is it just me or does this title not at all fit the message

[sacred harbor]

Its not just you

[tawdry gale]

"reward skill in raids" and you just suggest a tna rework

[worldly bear]

a rework where skill expression results in shorter raid times,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, hmmmmmm,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[tawdry gale]

ah because we need raids to be quicker than they already are

[sacred harbor]

The title and first paragraph comes off as “reward individual skill in raids”

But then diverts

[civic sorrel]

tna literally makes the least out of all the raids i think a rework where it makes it faster will at least make it make some more money

i think tna should be making the most money seeing how it is the final raid

[empty geyser]

I said in the post that the point was not to make it faster

[worldly bear]

how fast they are doesn't matter when 90% of rooms is just afking waiting for stuff to happen, this would atleast make it so you actually have to engage with the raid to get the same clear times as before

[sacred harbor]

The fableds and set stuff can sell pretty good, probably second best behind tcc

How much LE each raid makes changes every week also

With a bump to NOL cause of the extra pulls

[empty geyser]

Obviosly the point is not to make it faster but to make it faster when all players are doing somethig, the average raid time would probably go up

[tawdry gale]

still the point being that the title does not fit with the content of the post

i agree with the idea that like so many rooms are afk simulator for 3 players

[civic sorrel]

the fableds dont sell for anything and the only good set item is aleph null out of the 8 set items

[sacred harbor]

Divergence sells iirc

[tawdry gale]

tcc 3rd room is one of the best rooms in the game imo

[empty geyser]

tbh i think cts gave up on raids so the thread isnt rly meant for cts to see this and change, i just want to tell everyone my ideas

[sacred harbor]

So do the rings

[tidal hedge]

I wish raids were challenges for everyone, currently it feels like meta players just think about how fast they can beat it and not if they can beat it.

[tawdry gale]

everyone has a job to do and you can be rewarded if you have a player who can kill machine fast enough and then go defend

and if someone doesnt do their job then you dont just insta lose the raid, but you lose a lot of time

[empty geyser]

@vocal basalt explain yourself rn 😡

[empty geyser]

yeah its almost on nol maze and tcc wings lvl

nol maze is so well done imo

not one person has said why they think its bad 😭

[sacred harbor]

Yeah i dont miss old nol maze

[inland night]

You are rewarded for being good at raids with faster clears, especially if you use a glass cannon build with a high skill ceiling

I agree that some players could benefit from harder graids (i think it’d be a neat idea to buff some of the non-boss challenges in graid), but definitely not the base raid

[empty geyser]

i dont think any of the changes i said would make the raid harder

unless im missing smth

[inland night]

Yeah im gonna be totally honest i only read the title before i sent that and thats my bad lol

Now that ive read it: I think the idea is good, but your suggestions for how to execute it could be better

[steep marsh]

i dont raid that much but id enjoy raiding more if it challenged my brain lmao

[steep marsh]

maybe you are after the forgery silverbull rework for difficult content

maybe that will pose something interesting difficulty wise

unfortunately i doubt wynn wants to change difficulty towards more difficult raidings unless they make like raid matchmaking with elo or sm shit

[late lotus]

genuinely raids r so slop

[empty geyser]

i just feel like this is the only game ive played that doesnt reward you for playing and getting good

like ever

[late lotus]

welcome to wynn endgame bro lol

[steep marsh]

wynn seems to have more important problems on their hands atm like fruma, anni servers and potentially other in the works

[late lotus]

everything is done for the casual playerbase !bro!!

[dark portal]

i think you havent done enough raids brotein shake

[steep marsh]

wynn used to reward speed in old lootrunning when chests were not client sided, but they deemed the environment toxic and killed the economy without thinking much about the impacts of lootrun changes

[late lotus]

yeah i havent

[dark portal]

not you i meant op

[late lotus]

applesi to me too 😔

[steep marsh]

being goated at movement = more money back then

[halcyon panther]

hater

[dark portal]

yes

[empty geyser]

it warms my heart 😍

[late lotus]

the koh unlvl grind was somethijng else

[steep marsh]

i upvoted this

[steep marsh]

i remembered having to actually get near perfect archer movement just to compete with mage snipers in sky islands

the movement i learned back then still carries my gameplay today

[late lotus]

when i was new to lring and only had an archer lvld i just skipped sky because i kept falling into the void and soul points existed

[steep marsh]

i ignored this and just decided fk it we ball until i had no fear jumping around like a maniac in sky

but those times were fun cause you actually had to think more to counter and it was competetive in a sense

now its all just slop

only thing i find rewarding is experimenting with builds these days but even that has become slop

[bronze sierra]

How is every single one of ur posts bad, this has to be trolling or ur just so tunnel visioned from running too much tna

[steep marsh]

you cant talk about builds for 2 mins b4 someone immediately asks if i have tried etw builds

[empty geyser]

im open to critisism 🙂

also not like any of this would get changed 😭

[steep marsh]

this is the only post i somewhat can stand with from this guy

[ember plinth]

Have you tried etw builds

[steep marsh]

yeah cuhh

[leaden plaza]

Have you done guild tcc?

[empty geyser]

yes

[steep marsh]

sooo good, its the "oh i died to bs build" every 2 raids

[leaden plaza]

Without a team to melt it

[empty geyser]

yeah

full morph graid beat it in first try

[steep marsh]

what happened to qol builds 😭

[leaden plaza]

Then go play telos

[vocal basalt]

What

[leaden plaza]

I think that'll fit you better

[vocal basalt]

Why so sillious

[bronze sierra]

Maybe you make all these bad suggestions because you run the same exact thing all day so it’s gotten monotonous and stale :O

my suggestion is to do something else with ur life

[empty geyser]

youre breaking my hear 💔

[vocal basalt]

You need a hearing aid?

[empty geyser]

😭

[empty geyser]

u might be bad at rb...

[bronze sierra]

Also why did u private ur stats lmao I can’t check ur playtime or clears

[empty geyser]

im incognito raider

[bronze sierra]

Embarrassed by playtime probably 😂😂

[inland night]

Honestly just tweaking some challenges to let them go a bit faster with a high skill ceiling is a change i think would be nice

[halcyon panther]

@vocal basalt why so serious

[inland night]

I just think the way you want to go about it is flawed

[empty geyser]

its about half of this id say

[civic sorrel]

Shartboard owned 😂😂😂

[bronze sierra]

In 11 years* funny u conveniently cropped that out

Also atleast 1k of that is afk at ghouse lol

[peak falcon]

stop derailing

[sour hinge]

that’s what they all say buddy 😂

[empty geyser]

yeah this is a serious thread 😡

[civic sorrel]

Can we get smartboard feedback muted

[steep marsh]

best is not to keep responding

[sacred harbor]

Who wasted more of their life on wynn competition:

[civic sorrel]

Upvote to get smartboard feedback muted

[steep marsh]

lmao. digging deeper hole

[halcyon panther]

ME LAST

[sacred harbor]

Last

[bronze sierra]

Would you give me access to Larry if I get muted 🥺

[halcyon panther]

me last me last me last

[steep marsh]

commit tax fraud

[civic sorrel]

Who’s Larry

[bronze sierra]

Ohhh ok

[hollow rain]

aristotle type message

[vocal basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-dog-silly-dog-propeller-hat-propeller-hat-dog-gif-4764495627579170054

[sacred harbor]

Who would win: Spring town or divzer district?

[vocal basalt]

Spring town every day

[sacred harbor]

Personally would live in gma grotto

More down to earth

[steep marsh]

Ignis Imperialism

[sacred harbor]

Nah that place sucks, nobody living there has any freedom and the entrance is blocked by a big labyrinth

[vocal basalt]

🤔

[vocal basalt]

Gma grotto is cozy

[hard rapids]

Want a harder challenge? Play with unique items only.

[sacred harbor]

Yeah, its the perfect place to turn into stratisformis in my final years

Dont get me wrong, spring town is okay, but dating back to the epoch of the wynndustrial revolution, they made up that stupid az rune currency and now its inflated beyond reach

Search up wynncraft inflation for more info!!

[empty geyser]

😭

[sacred harbor]

Is that every bow or did i miss any?

[empty geyser]

where is freedom 😡

[sacred harbor]

.

[empty geyser]

aint reading allat 😎

[sacred harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-22257254

[hollow rain]

Only real people can read

[lime summit]

Hes back at it again my goat

[empty geyser]

sigh...

did i just make a goat thread where noone can come with critisism or what happened

[lime summit]

Might be

[sacred harbor]

I think what happened is you made a good thread but it didnt really have enough substance to cover the topic

Which its fair cause raid room redesign has to be really carefully treaded on

Plus also you made like multiple other threads being dismissed as ragebait so people doing the same thing

[tidal hedge]

Some people just don’t want harder raids for the average player, it’s easy for people who invest thousands of hours into the game but for the average player it’s not very welcoming to have a difficulty increase.

[sacred harbor]

The post does not suggest a difficulty increase

[tidal hedge]

I remember the first time I went into raids I felt absolutely useless.

[sacred harbor]

Actually it does in one sentence

[tidal hedge]

The suggestions in this post would, in fact, increase difficulty

And it implies a lot of afk which implies easy

[sacred harbor]

Its just tna room rework suggestions

[tidal hedge]

Rework can make things harder

This isn’t gonna make it easier, that’s for sure

I’d be up for making g raids harder but not regular raids

[lime ibex]

pfinder raids should remain easy as keeping the casual audience engaged without demanding a lot of skill investment is good

[tidal hedge]

Anyway 22 people downvoted this and only 13 upvoted so it’s not like it’s just me who doesn’t like this.

[lime ibex]

however graids are currently a joke and should be significantly harder

[hollow rain]

maybe not tcc but definitely tna
and notg, but mostly tna

[lime ibex]

both tcc and tna

[tidal hedge]

I would upvote a “make g raids harder” thread as long as the ideas were good

[hollow rain]

pardon?

[tidal hedge]

TCC less so than Tna at the very least

[lime ibex]

absolutely tna needs the most urgent attention but tcc isnt excluded

[hollow rain]

why

[tidal hedge]

I think the hp buff should be higher, people are beaming bosses down way too fast in g raids

Isn’t it like a 30% hp buff rn?

[lime ibex]

because tcc graid is easy

[tidal hedge]

What if they majorly make g raids harder, but make the rewards better

[lime ibex]

this

[tidal hedge]

Make it for only the most elite

[hollow rain]

i dont agree, nor do I think anyone else that does not have a dedicated hyper-built gtcc team would

[tidal hedge]

Something that actually gives endgame players with op builds a challenge

[lime ibex]

dude its a guild raid ppl are gonna be running stuff that absolutely shreds the boss

just 2 players on dps builds will melt it

[hollow rain]

r u fr?

[tidal hedge]

Even tank builds are getting 400-500k dps

[lime ibex]

if said guild is not yet ready to tackle an actual challenge just opt out of graid? you always have the normal variant

[tidal hedge]

I would love an extreme challenge for a greater reward

I really like onol g raid but wish it had more hp

[lime ibex]

for an extreme challenge id prob make its own isolated difficulty tier while keeping graids hard but not brutal

[tidal hedge]

The hp stealing makes tanks not immortal

[hollow rain]

could be im bad at tcc tbf, but gtcc seems leagues above the other graids

that is to say, i can solo all of the others consistently, but can't solo graid tcc even like 1/5 times

[tidal hedge]

Guild raid TNA was so easy that I carried it, and I am not the best player out there.

And I carried from almost max hp, my whole team died first watched

Well g raid Tna isn’t completely easy, just way too easy for a g raid

[empty geyser]

its easier than normal tna

[delicate fog]

People: We make the best builds to make Raids easy and quick
Also People: Raids are too easy

People: We run raids like 10 times a day
Also People: Why do I know how this raid works.

For real, if you want a battle (in pretty much any game) to be difficult of you've practiced and beaten it +100 times. You'd have to make increadibly BS bosses/challanges. To the point that party finder is just not an option. and new players are not incentivized to do raids.

[inland night]

I think there are ways to make raids faster with high skill while also not making it much more difficult for the average player

[tidal hedge]

That’s why I said it’s way too easy for a g raid, it should be harder in almost every situation

[empty geyser]

it would be the same difficulty

[tidal hedge]

That’s why I believe we shouldn’t buff normal raids, but buff g raids

[inland night]

Graid tna watched being possible in 2 cycles is an example of a raid being made faster with high skill ceiling

[empty geyser]

r we calling dodging watched skill now 😭

[inland night]

It IS too easy to do, yes, but something like this is a good starting point for a reference for your point Nut

[tidal hedge]

Maybe they should increase the amount of hits that the pillars can survive

[inland night]

You can dodge watched fine without doing a 2 cycle

[tidal hedge]

It’s skill based, just easier with some builds than others

[inland night]

But if you can do a 2 cycle it goes much faster

I think the skill ceiling is too low on it to be the perfect example but it is AN example

[tidal hedge]

Like if ur using assassin you would need to time better than warrior or mage or archer

Because assassin’s dash doesn’t go as far or fast

Mana is also a thing to consider

Or void holes, void holes with the little worms can one shot you if you play smth glassy like divzer

[empty geyser]

vanish makes you imune we cannot be srs rn

[tidal hedge]

One time I dodged into the flying purple blocks on accident while dodging watched, I time it right but the flying purple blocks one shot me

[bronze sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-movie-flint-and-steel-gif-4491320584761369279

[tidal hedge]

Oh rly? Ig I am stupid.

I use it to dodge TCC swipe but didn’t realize it blocks true damage as well

[lime ibex]

no dude its just a watched thing lol

[tidal hedge]

Oh okay

[lime ibex]

and tcc clouds apparently

[tidal hedge]

My bad, either way, watched still takes some skill with most builds, just not a lot

Anyone want to make a g raid post?

[lime ibex]

if i make one more post imma get feedback muted im good

[empty geyser]

real

[tidal hedge]

Do it and redeem yourself, I don’t want to get muted either XD

Most of my posts have like 1/4th agree with me and 3/4ths hate me

[lime ibex]

"redeem myself" bro i didnt even ragebait 😭

[sacred harbor]

Yeah tcc graid is the only one i feel its possible to fail

[tidal hedge]

Which is fine that’s why it’s feedback

[empty geyser]

i feel you...

[tidal hedge]

Ik but you can redeem your upvote count

[lime ibex]

ppl just think idc about new players calling me a fascist type shit im nothing but a socialist here!!

[tidal hedge]

All who agree that g raids should be harder upvote this message(also potentially more rewards depending on how much harder they get)

[empty geyser]

i already fail every other raíd, it should NOT be harder...

[tidal hedge]

Well you could still do normal raids

The point of this would be to give both meta players and regulars a chance to have a good challenge for good reward

[lime ibex]

exactly bro like i dont see why buffing graids is such an issue when normal raids are always available, you can just opt out

the opt out feature is currently useless

[empty geyser]

that would make sense and we dont do that here ok?

[lime ibex]

forgive me i have allowed my emotions to take over for a moment.

[sacred harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-truth-true-soyjak-wojak-gif-14828627546768133163

[hollow rain]

how will seq continue to level up 20 times a day if graids become harder

[tidal hedge]

posted a thread on it, I'm probably about to get nuked.

[lime ibex]

you are my hero

[empty geyser]

i said it earlier in the thread, ct gave up on raids

[tidal hedge]

If I die you can hack my account and get my LE

[empty geyser]

nothing will change 🙁

[hollow rain]

im gonna go nuke it

[tidal hedge]

Thanks

[tawdry grotto]

"reward skill in the game"
26 downvotes

[lime ibex]

people really dislike skill

[hollow rain]

i think the raid difficulty isnt the issue, but that it is instead the vast gap in power between a usable build and a meta build.

[bronze sierra]

Yea

[vivid notch]

+10 aspect pulls
-1 Aspect pull every (x) seconds after (slightly lower than average time)

🤯

[mossy shell]

shame on all these people

my goat peanutsyeah will never be wrong!

[empty geyser]

real

noone gave a reason

they might all be my haters

[low sage]

Divergence is a nice offhand for any earth build

Oh, lmao, forgot the @

[floral cradle]

These should be guild raid changes not base-raid modifications, but yeah, a lot of rooms aren't replayable.

[floral cradle]

TRUE

[ruby sparrow]

The general idea makes sense but don’t agree with some of the individual points.

For example, take current light room - basically entirely rng, not much skill required (eg you get good shadowling spawns or you run around like a headless chicken).

The solution to me doesn’t seem to be just linearly decrease the light radius, which will either not be noticeable with good spawns or frankly just annoying with bad spawns.

Instead, would prefer if they did something like reverting most of the room to 2.0 where shadowling positions/patterns could be memorized, rewarding pattern recognition skills. Or canonizing the old light skip (eg like make its own thing instead of just a way to get around the parkour), which required practice if you were skipping on something like archer and holding light (block above your head).

[gray leaf]

light could be better if they didnt make bats spawn time random and removed shitty spawn positions (rock)

[civic salmon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1036586382233194496/1428395553938477147/WHAT_THE_ACUTAL_PFUCK.mp4?ex=68f8f006&is=68f79e86&hm=1007b0208b2caa9a0d5eddd1650db8ffed44d57990550e938bcc18700f025695&

[sacred harbor]

I miss funny light room parkour

[ruby sparrow]

peak

[quick tinsel]

Shaw!

[severe hinge]

“The first 100 times you fight them” as if 90% of the playerbase ever did more than 100 raids total in their time playing

Extremely poor ragebait

Other than that the ideas proposed are actually pretty good themselves

I thus conclude that I am conflicted on this post

[empty geyser]

yeah, since getting an aspect to max takes a few hundred raids, sometime you are expected to reach 100 completions

[hollow rain]

no

[empty geyser]

ok

[sacred harbor]

“Your raid opinion is invalid because 90% of people dont raid” 💡

[empty geyser]

🤓

[hollow rain]

that's a whole separate idea.