General opinion

[lunar solar]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-wtf-what-gif-14841105

Sorry you're having bad ping issues, Ill forward this to network devs. Which region are you in? (AS, EU, NA)

[harsh dune]

“Correct these problems, and do not introduce donations that limit development”

[velvet pebble]

I have nothing against skins, but limiting development at the expense of mob totems and experience bombs is terrible.

[pastel sapphire]

um why would those limit development

[harsh dune]

wait what?

[robust galleon]

playtime of 30 minutes get op to ct

[lunar solar]

I think they've assumed that since they're having bad ping, it's due to not enough development attention going towards improving the network

[velvet pebble]

I mean it limits the development of players

[harsh dune]

didn’t they recently hire a new network dev specifically for improving connectivity “recently” ish

[pastel sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/top-gun-top-gun-maverick-salute-tom-cruise-military-gif-26899454

[harsh dune]

wait what does this mean

[rigid drum]

https://tenor.com/bz4i0.gif

[velvet pebble]

My ping is less than 20 in all possible games, but here I feel like I'm playing in Asia (the server is Europe, by the way).

[harsh dune]

what region are you in? there are region specific servers

[lunar solar]

Are you using a VPN?

[robust galleon]

im perfectly fine on europe servers g

[velvet pebble]

No

[robust galleon]

Works on my machine.

[velvet pebble]

I play in Europe, but I'm in Russia.

[velvet pebble]

Up level i mean translator cant translate it

[lunar solar]

This may be a factor, but I'm not sure. Like I said Ill send to devs and see if there is a possible fix. How long has this been happening?

[dim kettle]

30 minutes

[lunar solar]

Also whats your Username

[velvet pebble]

I haven't played for a long time, but definitely not for the last week.

[harsh dune]

also when are you getting these network issues. is it during a specific time or is it throughout your entire play session

[velvet pebble]

Throughout the session

[wintry thistle]

What are donations that limit development

[lunar solar]

@velvet pebble Have you tried playing in AS servers? Do you have the same issues there?

[old acorn]

fix the game ahh feedback
😂

[royal turret]

Oh, have had same ping problem like a year ago. No vpn too, and played from ru to en also. Connection was good for a month ig and then became like 1000-2000 ping no jokes, most interesting no time out errors. Fixed with, for some reason, vpn for some time, then became unplayable with vpn too. Now moved to other city and all good idk. Back then checked my network with avg linux net toolkit and found nothing, so ye not only this fella has network issues

[velvet pebble]

I live near Europe, why should I play on servers that are 5 times further than Europe?

[robust galleon]

dawg they are asking if you atleast tried there

[nimble valley]

The quest system is made terribly
it's pretty old but it's not bad

the impossibility of skipping cutscenes
you can on repeat classes

the inability to move in scenes and their lag when the screen locks and starts shaking for some reason
?

When casting spells to move, 1 out of 5 times it is thrown back to the place where it started
when are you casting spells to move?

The ping is terrible when you use a spell
there are 3 different regions, if you lag when you cast a spell specifically then your internet sucks and cant handle a few particles, which will also explain the previous 2 points

recently the whole game froze as if I had become DIo from JoJo, time just stood still
yup, your internet is dying and you're blaming the server

I ran around frozen players and enemies and absolutely nothing worked. Correct these problems, and do not introduce donations that limit development.
in conclusion, this post is ragebait (not exactly but idk the correct word for it)

[robust galleon]

yes or no question

this transcends over language barriers

[lunar solar]

im not sure you know what ragebait is

[nimble valley]

it's not exactly ragebait

[livid siren]

Are you sure you connected to EU servers 🤔

[nimble valley]

idk the word for it, but ragebait is close enough

[velvet pebble]

I completed the light restoration quests and watched all those cutscenes on one character, and now I'm watching them again during my playthrough. It's very time-consuming.

the inability to move in scenes and their lag when the screen locks and starts shaking for some reason.

I mean when it locks at a specific angle and you start falling downwards, and the screen just shakes.

when are you casting spells to move?

When I need to move, like over a long distance where I haven't been before, or there's no point closer, and when I'm low on HP and trying to escape from enemies, I cast a spell and end up being thrown back and dying.

There are three different regions. If you lag when you cast a spell specifically, then your internet sucks and can't handle a few particles, which will also explain the previous two points.

The fact that I play other games with much higher PC and internet requirements and there, doesn't freeze, doesn't mean anything? I literally have a ping on the European servers in Wynn, but there's no ping on servers like R6S (I know there are definitely no servers in Russia). In R6S, my ping is up to 40 max, but there's never been a moment where I've been stuck in place and killed because the server can't process the information.

In conclusion, this post is ragebait (not exactly, but I don't know the right word for it).

I'll say that this is the first time I've ever seen players simply frozen in place, servers can't handle effects and fast player movement. This isn't ragebait.
Ragebait would be if I just pressed Alt+F4 and deleted everything about Wynn. This is pure outrage at specific problems, and it's especially noticeable with servers.

[old acorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/724581180841656360/1356456951998840873/attachment.gif

[velvet pebble]

Ragebait is when a player gets angry at themselves over factors that are entirely their own fault.
For example, low skill in the game and frequent deaths due to that very low skill, but this moment demonstrates poor technical execution.

[nimble valley]

I mean when it locks at a specific angle and you start falling downwards, and the screen just shakes.
i dont recall that ever happening, cutscenes should be giving you creative flight iirc

When I need to move, like over a long distance where I haven't been before, or there's no point closer, and when I'm low on HP and trying to escape from enemies, I cast a spell and end up being thrown back and dying
so you're rubber banding when using movement spells? that's weird, never happened to me
most likely an internet issue too

The fact that I play other games with much higher PC and internet requirements and there, doesn't freeze, doesn't mean anything? I literally have a ping on the European servers in Wynn, but there's no ping on servers like R6S (I know there are definitely no servers in Russia). In R6S, my ping is up to 40 max, but there's never been a moment where I've been stuck in place and killed because the server can't process the information.
wynncraft is an MCMMORPG, it has a lot of limits and cant use a more optimized networking solution like specialized games (such as R6S)
R6S probably has a closer server to you (which explains the better ping) and a more optimized networking solution for being a shooter, it's also probably sending you the velocity values as well to make things seem smoother between serialization

I'll say that this is the first time I've ever seen players simply frozen in place
this only ever happens doing annihilation (which is incredibly network intensive as a lot of players are at the same world event at the same time), if it happens outside of anni then your internet is dying and completely lost connection

servers can't handle effects and fast player movement
servers very well can, and smoothly
but your internet is the problem, and i'm saying this because i've had these issues when my internet was also dying/generally slower than usual

sorry for saying it's ragebait, but the final 2 lines sounded a lot like you're trolling

[old acorn]

LMAO

[nimble valley]

ragebait is when someone says things to make other people angry (either outright wrong things or just being a moron)

basically another word for trolling but instead of trying to be funny they're trying to be annoying

[velvet pebble]

The R6S servers were located in France when I played, which is literally a different part of Europe from me.
My internet is pretty good, because I don't have these problems when playing on other servers.

[old acorn]

its like rage bait without ill intent lol

[nimble valley]

My internet is pretty good, because I don't have these problems when playing on other servers.
other mc servers or other game servers in general? I've had MC specifically lag until i restarted my router or waited a day
it's usually not as noticable on other servers because wynn is significantly more network intensive because of the ability particles and custom mob models

[velvet pebble]

Other Minecraft servers, okay in busy areas, but I have this happen in places where there are no such large effects, the problem is that the servers can't handle 30-55 players at a time

[nimble valley]

but they can handle 30-55 people, just look at the other 1000 players playing the game smoothly
again, this ISNT a server issue, it's your internet or connection to the server being bad

[velvet pebble]

I think the second is because the developers simply don't think about Russian players. Russia is very large and there are places that can't be reached with normal ping, not on the Na, not on the As, not on the EU servers. If even near Europe it doesn't work well, what can we say about those people?

[hollow crypt]

Rare Russian player playing not cracked minecraft

[nimble valley]

wynncraft's team is mainly volunteers, and as salted said in the posts responding to the outrage about the silverbull update the server doesnt make THAT much money
servers cost money, adding more regions costs money and adding a russia server for the relatively small amount of players from russia probably isnt worth it

i dont think this is a global russia issue, since there are players and russian guilds i'm sure i would've seen way more complaints by now

[past token]

play megido abyss instead i think

[velvet pebble]

What to include?

[velvet pebble]

Believe me, there are quite a few such players, it's just that almost all Russian servers are pirated, because not every schoolchild has extra money to buy an expensive game.

[past token]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1005316028345090118/1176355400405221376/caption.gif

[past token]

its like 18 quid

[woven solstice]

Are the AS servers not good enough for Russian players?

What's the ping if you don't mind me asking

[past token]

i would imagine eu and as is close to russia

[hollow crypt]

Not a price discussion, i was of the assumption that you could no longer buy minecraft in russia

[woven solstice]

I would imagine EU servers are between UK and like next to the middle east, idk if the area of Russia they live in will reliably reach there

[velvet pebble]

This is also a fact: Microsoft has limited the distribution of its products since 2022.

[velvet pebble]

I showed with a circle the place where I live and the approximate location of the servers, as it is very far away

[woven solstice]

Blud is near the edge of Russia and the server connection is still rough

[hollow crypt]

Yeah what i mean by “rare Russian player not on cracked minecraft” is cause alts arent regionally priced and cost more since migration so its harder to come by a russian minecraft player

If most of those are even actual options anymore anyways

Giving constructive feedback on an MMO that you gave 30 minutes of playtime into is really stupid though lol

[livid siren]

Anything east of moscow is damn near uninhabitable

[lunar solar]

@velvet pebble whats your username in-game?

[velvet pebble]

Rimurik

[livid siren]

it's 200h which is surprising with these conditions

[velvet pebble]

30 minutes HAHAHAH, I played back in 2018

[hollow crypt]

Ah, someone said 30 minutes earlier sorry

[velvet pebble]

I have about 200 hours, I think.

[hollow crypt]

How do you suffer through 200 hours of insane lag though thats my question

[lunar solar]

Have you always had this lag, or has it been worse recently?

[velvet pebble]

I played a little in 2018 and in 2020, and I didn't see anything like this back then. I've been playing actively for about a week now and I've noticed it.

[velvet pebble]

I play 100 of them on a very powerful computer, so I didn't really see anything special, this was just in 2018-2020

[hollow crypt]

I thought we were talking about your connection not your computer

[lunar solar]

There have been a lot of DDOS's going on in the Minecraft server space recently, its possible that your region may be being impacted by it. Hopefully if this is the cause, they will soon die down and your ping should improve.

[open shell]

no...

[past token]

monumenta !!!
we have less skills than wynncraft… totally

[livid siren]

Gets tuah point

[open shell]

megido abyss is so broken. i really tried to enjoy it, but it's unplayable for what it is

[woven solstice]

that's more than 9 slots wtf

RPG Mods provide less than that to work under base MC controls

[nimble valley]

How...
You have like 5 keys to work with?

[past token]

yeah we have spells bound to swap, drop, lc, rc, and we can customise keybinds at will to be a combination of shift drop look up or rc holding pickaxe

[nimble valley]

I gotta try monuments eventually

[past token]

and then theres a whole list of exclusions so that abilities arent cast when holding things
AND
we can bind multiple abilities to the same key

[nimble valley]

What do the abilities do tho

[past token]

Please do not quit at white
I know it has a 14% completion rate, just dont

[nimble valley]

Depends on how interesting they are

[nimble valley]

That doesn't tell me much but ok

Why tho

[livid siren]

Monumenta early game first area lasting multiple hours has been untouched for over a decade damn near unplayable

[nimble valley]

Damn

[past token]

This is for cleric
Cleansing rain: clears debuffs, gives res, aoe effect on caster
Divine Justice: increased dual scaling magic/melee dmg against heretics
Hallowed Beam: holding bow, either heals allies or deals dmg
Hand of light: cone heal, deals magic dmg
Illuminate: launches a ball that explodes
Celestial Blessing: dmg buff for all allies in a radius and marks mobs to be heretics
Touch of Radiance: cdr for player and caster
Ethereal Ascension: fly into the air, shoot down orbs
Keepers Virtue: helper thing that heals others and attacks enemies, have to manage its hp
Sanctified Armor: reduces dmg taken below 50% hp, 10s cd

[past token]

R2 and r3are legendary

there are 8 classes each with 8 skills and 3 spec skills (r2, 2 specs per class)

[livid siren]

Debatable but I'll say some r2 dungeons completely captivated me

[past token]

city of shifting waters 🗣️

[livid siren]

NOT that one

[past token]

wait lemme go find stupid forum image that has 20 billion mobs

[livid siren]

light gray is the first time i had uninterrupted fun in the game it was so great it might've made up for everything else i disliked

[open shell]

better to solo for first time or play with randoms?

[livid siren]

Don't play with randoms at all imo

[open shell]

😭 no friends

[past token]

found it

[livid siren]

Either friends just as clueless or solo

[open shell]

wtf am i looking at bro

[livid siren]

a 'dungeon' of all time

[past token]

Only for strikes etc or after you have completed monument and are doing depvea

[livid siren]

Yeah strikes are short form content anyways

[nimble valley]

Better to solo first time or spend 2 years to convince my friend to try it and end up with an 80% chance of him quitting a week through, 10% of him playing at my pace and 10% of him absolutely grinding everything

[past token]

Legionary 5(75% more mobs) chronology (2x spawner speed) bountiful (2x spawner range), cloaked 3 (60% of mobs go invis on spawn and only decloak within 2 block range of player) and pern 1 (10% of mobs break blocks)

[past token]

run solo
While white is a shit first dungeon, it teaches a lot about the mechanics of monumenta

[livid siren]

depends how well you do against dying over and over and losing significant progress since both of those aren't exactly rare occurances

[past token]

if you have friends you can run with them but as a wynncraft player that might be difficult for you /j

[past token]

thankfully we dont do all items dropped on death anymore

[livid siren]

Shatter is so devastating early game regardless

your item is kind of cooked at a certain point depending on your circumstance

[nimble valley]

I'm fine
However my friend is 50/50 doesn't care or never touches the game again

[past token]

monumenta.

[open shell]

im gonna force my whole guild to play monumenta w/ me

[past token]

Good. Pass magenta and you can make your guild on monumenta too (dungeon 3)

We already have taq, ain, seq, nia and opm on monumenta

[livid siren]

fuy ❤️‍🩹

[open shell]

is there an option for 4 letter guild tags

[past token]

Up to 6 letter tags

https://odetomisery.vercel.app/
take this

its the list of all items and builder
Like wynnbuilder for monumenta

[open shell]

no
i will play ts blind like i did my first run of wynncraft

[livid siren]

same as wynnbuilder no point before you're way later into the game

[open shell]

wynnbuildering lvl 30 builds 🔥

[past token]

you start at level 2, max level is 19
You get a level whenever you complete a wool dungeon

Max of 10 skill points, 4 specs points, 3 enhancement points, 12 charm power

[nimble valley]

check your dms i have some monumenta questions before i start but i dont want to flood this chat with more offtopic monumenta

[past token]

sure!

[dim kettle]

if you think wynn raids are hard you are not ready for monumenta at all

[past token]

Yeah I’m a monumenta player I’ve beaten hexfall

true mark of skill fr
wynncraft pfinder could never

[autumn timber]

Is that an upside-down giant