copper shell
Today we lose a brother in arms, someone we could have always counted on, when mods patched our DPS bugs. Cataclysm will always hold a special place in my heart, for all the drysnipes, all the good times, that will never leave my memory.
We must'nt forgive the evil content team for this injustice.
R.I.P Cataclysm DPS (Wynncraft Spellbound -> P2WYNN)
🥀
weary thunder
🥀
static edge
Today we lose a brother in arms, someone we could have always counted on, when m...
lighten up, DPS bugs exist for other classes/weps too
copper shell
lighten up, DPS bugs exist for other classes/weps too
it will never be the same
weary thunder
Can we get a wilted rose chain
ionic nacelle
alka dps on top
undone sphinx
🥀
hasty ridge
gn cata
ancient slate
no gimmick
hasty ridge
wait actually like fr what do we even use atp not counting bugs or techs
alka tstack? 😭
weary thunder
alka tstack? 😭
alka tstack is ASS on towers
weary thunder
gg ct finally did something to wars
noble brook
ct team hates war ig
weary thunder
real
noble brook
i mean tbf, no one can rely on ct to ever do anything good to war
weary thunder
true
undone sphinx
wait actually like fr what do we even use atp not counting bugs or techs
pbomber or tstack
hasty ridge
surely thats still enough for snipes and shit right
noble brook
surely thats still enough for snipes and shit right
drysnipes are prolly done for tho
im just sad that wynn doesnt care about war :E
its literally the only reason i play
noble brook
warring probably still fine tbf
yeah, it just wasted stx upon stx of crafted cata gear
it just sucks
hasty ridge
yeah i agree
gentle beacon
🥀
noble brook
very few of the wynn CT play a lot-- let alone war to the extent that many guilds do
undone sphinx
yeah, it just wasted stx upon stx of crafted cata gear
eh probably you can still use them for divzer wall bombing
noble brook
eh probably you can still use them for divzer wall bombing
true
hasty ridge
does divzer wall bombing even sustain well
undone sphinx
every thunder war build uses the same recipe anyways
noble brook
every thunder war build uses the same recipe anyways
ye
undone sphinx
does divzer wall bombing even sustain well
you need more sustain than without aspects p sure
hasty ridge
im guessing people are just gonna start wallbombing then or pull funny shit and get banned by mods
noble brook
ye
its just annoying
most warrers dont feel listened to rn
from the ones ive spoken to
:/
noble brook
yeah
hasty ridge
they are still fine in terms of what you can do with current gear but
they fundamentally lack rewards
like the fuck is the point of holding a claim to an individual warrer
noble brook
yeah
i wish there was a warring overhaul update
i would genuinely donate money for that to happen
hasty ridge
even the current system would be nice if theres a real reason for people to start warring
and some mechanics to actually encourage attacking rather than holding big ass claims for nothing but sr (useless to individuals)
noble brook
and some mechanics to actually encourage attacking rather than holding big ass c...
yeah
i agree entirely
I think war should be a lil more integrated into wynn
rn it feels very separated
theres hardly any rewards
and all ems from emseek go back into funding consu to actually war
it needs an overhaul
gleaming vale
Glass Cannon Gif
noble brook
undone sphinx
Glass Cannon Gif
hasty ridge
im thinking about the problems that the current war system is facing rn
undone sphinx
its pretty shrimple
no good incentives
hard to get more players into warring
not a lot of help from the game itself to war/ eco
lack of good consistent dps that wont affect the meta in raids
and it is a lot of time and effort
gleaming vale
hasty ridge
no good incentives
hard to get more players into warring
not a lot of help from...
i think incentives heavily relies on accessibility and the distribution of rewards
because if you lets say, give warring really good rewards or exclusives, you also have to make sure smaller guilds can actually benefit from it, as the current system offers practically no real reward to guilds who cant hold (and holding is really costly since you need active players to cover all timezones), you also have to reward people for attacking without ending up with people trading terrs (cough cough ffa)
and then yeah warring itself is also really gatekept by both the game and community (community gatekeeping makes a lot of sense since this is competitive afterall, mainly just the game giving practically no real instructions), ecoing is also nearly impossible to understand without guidance but the problem is how are you gonna make ecoing easy to understand without ruining the variety of strategies and interactions that arise from it
dps is probably the easiest one to solve out of all if the game is balanced (spoiler: it isnt) eventually and just tuning war tower stats
(and of course balancing itself is a whole other hell since how are you gonna make the game enjoyable for both sweats and casuals while maintaining balance)
undone sphinx
deep
hasty ridge
idk even tho warring is hard to "fix" in general i think it currently lacks attention so badly
cerulean lodge
hows the warring scene nowadays? any consistent attacker guilds?
static edge
hows the warring scene nowadays? any consistent attacker guilds?
meh
undone sphinx
hows the warring scene nowadays? any consistent attacker guilds?
nia edn leaf
cerulean lodge
are any defending guilds fighting eachother?
static edge
nia edn leaf
kind of, edn and leaf attack avo only and nia do not attack seq
undone sphinx
kind of, edn and leaf attack avo only and nia do not attack seq
nia attack anyone but they just gift res back
static edge
nia attack anyone but they just gift res back
not seq
undone sphinx
there are multiple instances ive seen nia attacking seq 😭
static edge
there are multiple instances ive seen nia attacking seq 😭
bruh did I sleep over it
hasty ridge
theres like no one contesting for claims at all its kinda lame
outside of maybe corkus or desert
undone sphinx
yeah it is like there are a lack of warring playerbase
hasty ridge
not even sky gets contested 😭
hasty ridge
realistically whats the point of holding a claim other than sr atp
weeklies give a decent amount of gtomes
not as many as a guild with 8 tome seeks obviously but like
cerulean lodge
yea i def agree they should add more incentives to warring
hasty ridge
and then em seek isnt even real
like why would i spent time maintaining a claim when doing a single raid with 3 other people generate more total money than a full day of em seek 😭
static edge
yea i def agree they should add more incentives to warring
tell to CT 🙏
undone sphinx
they should give out half le per war done
hasty ridge
ig being on map is like a big advertisement but man i dont really see any difference in terms of rewards between being in a defender guild and being in a raiding guild
tough forge
well season rating
hasty ridge
in fact i would probably make way more if i use my time PROFFING WITH 1LE DERNICS rather than warring
undone sphinx
you could watch a movie while proffing and holding a claim
hasty ridge
well season rating
sr is a good thing but its not "real" to most players
you only really care about sr if you are attached to your guild but that is more of a "ego" (not in a bad way idk what word i can use to describe this) thing rather than real rewards
undone sphinx
graiding better to get sr anyways
hasty ridge
in early season yeah
theres just not much point to war tbh the mindset has become "why not just raid" atp
you can see like how like 3/4 of feedback posts are raid-related (balancing) and no one really talks about wars
really comes to show how no one wants to do this
undone sphinx
i find wars differ from raids cuz you have to get this person to do war with you cuz they only have that type of war role build but in contrast raids you just get what ever person that has more than 3 braincells and has a hero build
hasty ridge
it has a war section? 😭
undone sphinx
you can see like how like 3/4 of feedback posts are raid-related (balancing) and...
because wars is a small vocal minority compare to raids
hasty ridge
probably mostly linny idk
im still trying to get deeper into wars
(mostly too bored of raids)
hasty ridge
because wars is a small vocal minority compare to raids
yeah cuz no one really wants to do wars
you would expect an avg warrer to be a bigger yapper than raider as well due to the community nature of wars
actually maybe not idk
static edge
just delete wars
hasty ridge
toxicity is completely normal when you have real competitive content
obviously dont turn this into like hsb dung level of toxicity
static edge
toxicity is completely normal when you have real competitive content
no, I got warnings
undone sphinx
it is normal to get mad when you spam "dont log this terr" 10 times and someone still take it
👍
hasty ridge
its just a few individuals really who take this too far
it will be sad if warring is gone since its so unique
gleaming vale
toxicity is completely normal when you have real competitive content
I quit wars Too many sweats
hasty ridge
real competitiveness in wynn
undone sphinx
its just a few individuals really who take this too far
it is also #🌎wynncraft people just shit talks guild comm cuz they just want to 😭
gleaming vale
casual elitism is a cancer
hasty ridge
it is also <#262010576295821312> people just shit talks guild comm cuz they just...
tbf some incidents really made gcomm look like the hood 😭
gleaming vale
true but would you rather have it any other way
undone sphinx
aint even our fault 😭
tough forge
graiding better to get sr anyways
holding claim is half the sr
hasty ridge
i do lowkey feel bad for the mods getting cooked in gcomm every day (not talking about whether its deserved or not) but apart from that its mostly fine
undone sphinx
holding claim is half the sr
yeah assuming you get a good claim with 40+ terrs
not every guild has 1
tough forge
well
hasty ridge
even getting people to react to attacks in all timezones is hard
gleaming vale
theres like genuinely zero intelligent life in any channels other than #1019649786799996980 and #guild_community anyway
hasty ridge
an asian attacker can easily mess up half of the on-map guilds
tough forge
hmm
gleaming vale
ivory towers and whatnot
tough forge
warring is one of those things in wynn that needs organising and strategy idk
copper shell
an asian attacker can easily mess up half of the on-map guilds
goes both ways
hasty ridge
ngl tho i do kinda appreciate esi for being extremely reactive
undone sphinx
an asian attacker can easily mess up half of the on-map guilds
aura fail is around 50/50 for asia 😭
hasty ridge
i tried to drain their fish during dead hours but the moment i took a terr they went from 2 online to 10
copper shell
aura fail is around 50/50 for asia 😭
not true bro
tough forge
aura fail is around 50/50 for asia 😭
jump and pray type shit
hasty ridge
aura fail is around 50/50 for asia 😭
yknow whats the worst part of AS warring
tough forge
he has star platinum
hasty ridge
getting stuck at Encrypting...
undone sphinx
my viet homie dodges every aura
what if he wins the 50/50 everytime 💡
hasty ridge
it happened to me so many times
copper shell
what if he wins the 50/50 everytime 💡
?? gambvling gambling gamble
ads ?>Fms,j;kl s
sorry
im gamblesexual
hasty ridge
theres a really clear reason why there are so few asian warrers in general
undone sphinx
i can tell
hasty ridge
most of them are raiders
copper shell
asia raiding also sucks
hasty ridge
asia raiding is fine in a guild
undone sphinx
its fine when you get 3 other asians
hasty ridge
thats why you see asian players being really concentrated in certain guilds
cuz no asian want to play in EU or NA
tough forge
eu wars when
hasty ridge
its sad how warring always sends you to NA
tough forge
yes
hasty ridge
(unless NA is completely full)
tough forge
cus the war proxys are always na
hasty ridge
making warring actually dependent on the warrers' region would be a great step
even tho the eco menu is still mega shit in asia
tough forge
i did hear that yeah
undone sphinx
do loadouts and pray that it did work
tough forge
like aura
I think this change is actually pretty fun altogether. It forces the warring scene to lock in and come up with new bs
hasty ridge
just pray that the bs doesnt get used in raids otherwise its cooked
hasty ridge
i mean like a lot of war dps stuff lately only get nuked when they start being popularised in raids
tough forge
ah
its bound to happen, if its useful for wars u can slightly change it and bam u have a tcc build
hasty ridge
cuz like maintaining a good raid meta is way more important than stopping you from using bs in wars
hasty ridge
its bound to happen, if its useful for wars u can slightly change it and bam u h...
yeah the raid dps builds can literally be played as if they are in wars atp
tough forge
as established, ct doesnt care about wars, they are nieche
hasty ridge
gluing or just tcc
tough forge
yeah the raid dps builds can literally be played as if they are in wars atp
indeed
im still interested in what people will manage to come up with, i dont think attacker guilds will stop wanting to attack and defender guilds defo arent gonna give upn their claims
hasty ridge
warring doesnt even need like additional balance (in the short term) all it takes is probably just more rewards (in a reasonable manner obviously) then it will be alive
undone sphinx
backstab nirvana doesnt work on towers 💔
tough forge
warring doesnt even need like additional balance (in the short term) all it take...
sure
rewards are great
that is true, unless you are invested in your guild or want the aura from doing some hard hq why even war in the first place
hasty ridge
yeah warring lacks tangible rewards
tough forge
tome seeks and em seeks arent it
hasty ridge
and even if you count tome seeks
psychologically
delayed rewards are way less effective than immediate ones
tough forge
even if u were to bring back full claim seekings, if ur an actually big guild u still dont profit from it
hasty ridge
(waiting a few hours after war for seekings to pop off vs getting le straight from finishing a raid)
tough forge
sure but idt u can make an end reward chest for a war
hasty ridge
yeah you cant but there may be solutions to make small attackers actually feel rewarded
the whole hold->reward system doesnt work out well outside of big guilds because its too costly to hold for most guilds
tough forge
idt the cost is the problem, its more the effort
as you said its hard to get people in every timezone
tough forge
ah yes
then i agree
its not worth or straight up impossible for most guilds in the game
but i think that is fine by itself
hasty ridge
its probably fine to reward guilds for holding yeah its wars after all
i just think it needs some sort of system of rewards for smaller guilds
for the players exactly
tough forge
some system of worldwide buffs like aspects?
just hand them emeralds after war?
idk
tough forge
make hqs drop mythics 🥀
some exploding tower animation into random mythic chance
forgery ts war up
hasty ridge
😭
tough forge
since you did not receive a mythic, your mythic chance has been increased by 1.1*10^-100%
ionic nacelle
war exclusive mythics when
copper shell
make hqs drop mythics 🥀
anythning like this ultimately leads to teaming
and exploitation
allthough i dislike it i think the only system that works is rewarding being on map
mighty spruce
not even sky gets contested 😭
Who wants to contest sky without jofash or molten
That's a bum claim for even mega alliance standards
undone sphinx
sky sucks without eltom
hasty ridge
Who wants to contest sky without jofash or molten
who let etkw get back molten 😭
tough forge
etkw did
hasty ridge
it was actually kinda cool how there were guilds in molten
for proffing or just holding
tough forge
idk how holding "Holding" is if theyre just there cus noone bothers to attack
corkus type claim
tough forge
and exploitation
everyone knows this happens without any system like this anyway
but yes at least it doesnt affect the overall game economy
hasty ridge
idk how holding "Holding" is if theyre just there cus noone bothers to attack
well at least its better than yet another big guild holding a place
tough forge
wars were already at a funny place pre cata death
hasty ridge
the seq aeq war wouldve been fun if it didnt happen when i literally just woke up
idk we need more wars between big guilds like this
its kinda funny
tough forge
the seq aeq war wouldve been fun if it didnt happen when i literally just woke u...
i stayed up untilö 3:30 am
tough forge
idk we need more wars between big guilds like this
noone wants to bother
its time and labour and cost intensive
and what do you get? nothing
hasty ridge
yeah fair
tough forge
might as well raid
hasty ridge
it does feel frustrating if someone starts a war while you dont want to bother
tough forge
well tahts how defending is
hasty ridge
defending is like
so lame
it feels like maintenance work
only fun when you get to troll snakers otherwise its just more annoying than anything else
tough forge
free eco practice simulator 5000
tough forge
only fun when you get to troll snakers otherwise its just more annoying than any...
it can be a chore at times but thats what one signed up for
tough forge
yeah i woudnt disagree with that
hasty ridge
goes from having a liability to being a liability to another guild
tough forge
goes from having a liability to being a liability to another guild
if ur strong enough noone can be a liability 
but yes exactly
as an attacker u can goof around
copper shell
i dont really mind it but being an attacker is 10x more fun
ok come attack
copper shell
omg based asf
weary thunder
lets attack aeq
🙀
can we bring back em seeks
can ct think about wars
can wars pls get improved upon
can guilds get a bigger role
maybe more seeks????
emseek solves 110% of all problems in guilds
if the game wont reward ppl for warring
and we dont get an actual attainable way of doing that ourselves
wars will die more than it is dying rn
tough forge
What’s ur problem with em seems bro
weary thunder
no em seeks fucking suck
whats the issue with em seek?
timid raven
guess how em seeks work...
by sitting on a massive claim doing absolutely nothing
and even if you do that you barely get anything
it leaves nothing for off map guilds (which is the majority of guilds)
and nothing for guilds who even war but don't have a claim
weary thunder
guess how em seeks work...
by sitting on a massive claim doing absolutely nothin...
Wouldnt emseeks lead to there being more wars since there would be a bigger incentive to hold a claim? More wars for the holding guilds that have to defend attacks on their claims? The good thing about emseek is the financial incentive to hold a claim, without emseeks its not really worth it. Holding guilds doing nothing doesnt seem like a realistic outcome. More guilds would war since there would be more incentive to war. If emseek would get brought back a large claim would generate roughly 1.5stx each day. In 99% of guilds this money would be invested in their community.
Does this suck?
tough forge
guess how em seeks work...
by sitting on a massive claim doing absolutely nothin...
em seeks still dont strike a profit for large guilds so
noble brook
guess how em seeks work...
by sitting on a massive claim doing absolutely nothin...
icl thats a terrible take 😭
timid raven
Does this suck?
weary thunder
elaborate cro
timid raven
elaborate cro
are you really going to sit here and say that em seeks have 0 issues in its current state though?
like sure It's not that I am against warring giving emeralds but em seeks currently have so many issues and for that reason I don't want them to be buffed 
weary thunder
emseeks are useless right now, they are way too weak, not buffing them wouldnt be good 😼 🐔 😛
noble brook
fuck em seeks
they incentivize warring-- although imo there needs to be more war rewards and less war build nerfs
also emseek rn is SO ass
so this take is just kinda dumb
ily tho
<3
weary thunder
currently emseeks in cinfras claim make us 10le each day 💔
weary thunder
timid raven
currently emseeks in cinfras claim make us 10le each day 💔
good cause literally all on map guilds suck at warring except maybe seq
they don't deserve shit
weary thunder
good cause literally all on map guilds suck at warring except maybe seq
they don...
holy argument
timid raven
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1191816090544779334/1402852841445658655/t...
yeah and your argument is putting a gif of a clueless looking monkey 😂
weary thunder
yeah and your argument is putting a gif of a clueless looking monkey 😂
@dusky stone are you the smartest tbbd player
is my question true?
u said ''thats true'' to a yes or no question
im gonna assume you arent the smartest tdbd player then...
timid raven
@weary thunder is it true all on map guilds are shit at warring
weary thunder
🙀
weary thunder
<@704335687759167559> is it true all on map guilds are shit at warring
u gonna have to figure that out on your own zro
timid raven
only one thats decent is like seq
timid raven
u gonna have to figure that out on your own zro
bruh I am saying it from my own experience
ok but they are legit the only ones that are decently capable at holding a claim
yeah and etkw is like afk 99% of the time
and they move hq 😭
😭
like honestly though most on map guilds are completely clueless
It's so funny when they complain about em seeks
nimble marten
only one thats decent is like seq
seq not gonna reward you for glazing them 🥀
weary thunder
seq not gonna reward you for glazing them 🥀
seq WILL let him hit ❤️🩹
nimble marten
seq WILL let him hit ❤️🩹
timid raven
seq not gonna reward you for glazing them 🥀
I hope yall realize that I don't care about seq
but they are literally the only ones that are capable of using their brain's
nimble marten
I hope yall realize that I don't care about seq
but they are literally the only ...
why are we lying 😭
timid raven
why are we lying 😭
cause I am pretty sure you either don't have a brain or just refuse to use it
nimble marten
cause I am pretty sure you either don't have a brain or just refuse to use it
i mean you just glaze seq and say every guild sucks without explanation
your snipe experience is just afking with guard so im not sure how much you know about using a brain 💔
timid raven
yeah cause every on map guild does suck and usually has a combination of
timid raven
your snipe experience is just afking with guard so im not sure how much you know...
I mean I heal as well but you wouldn't know that
weary thunder
@timid raven why dont you hold a claim since you obviously is better than everyone else
timid raven
<@769327467055022091> why dont you hold a claim since you obviously is better th...
too 🥱 🥱 🥱
and I have a life 😱
nimble marten
yeah cause every on map guild does suck and usually has a combination of
1) afk ...
quite delusional if you think seq has never done any of these things
weary thunder
too 🥱 🥱 🥱
and I have a life 😱
Holy lie + holding a claim isnt a thing one person can do
timid raven
quite delusional if you think seq has never done any of these things
eh seq still does those things
but they do it way less often than like a guild like aeq for example
nimble marten
eh seq still does those things
but they do it way less often than like a guild l...
*sqm for example
weary thunder
Can sqm lock in pls🙏 😔
pastel laurel
ok but they are legit the only ones that are decently capable at holding a claim
u say this as if avo ano aeq haven't been holding their claims for months
nimble marten
u say this as if avo ano aeq haven't been holding their claims for months
avo 💔
pastel laurel
like ur just shouting nonsense with no evidence/backing to it
timid raven
u say this as if avo ano aeq haven't been holding their claims for months
yeah cause nobody contests them xD
pastel laurel
yeah cause nobody contests them xD
then how do you know they're bad at holding a claim????
timid raven
then how do you know they're bad at holding a claim????
🤦♂️
this whole thread is yall just rage baiting ngl
it is a well known fact that on map guilds have the warring capabilities of toddlers
weary thunder
it is a well known fact that on map guilds have the warring capabilities of todd...
If they are incapable why havent they been replaced by capable guilds
timid raven
too 🥱 🥱 🥱
and I have a life 😱
.
pastel laurel
this whole thread is yall just rage baiting ngl
bro's response when someone presents a counterarguement
weary thunder
Lf logic and reasoning ong
timid raven
yeah cause every on map guild does suck and usually has a combination of
1) afk ...
.
I have explained put forward all my reasonings and logic
pastel laurel
if "every on map guild sucks" then none of them suck?
timid raven
you guys have been the ones that just keep rage baiting and providing 0 argument
pastel laurel
like what's the standard?
weary thunder
We tryna understand u dawg
timid raven
pastel laurel
that's like saying everyone at the olympics sucks cuz they can't met xyz time
timid raven
pastel laurel
u gotta have something to compare it to
weary thunder
Cyber i dont think ts guy wants to hold an actual convo
pastel laurel
i mean do u expect every guild to be perfect?
like i would argue if a guild can hold a claim for 2-3+ seasons then they're very competent at holding a claim?
which is almost every on map guild
timid raven
Cyber i dont think ts guy wants to hold an actual convo
yeah its my turn to rage bait
timid raven
Cyber i dont think ts guy wants to hold an actual convo
you have provided nothing of value to this conversation 😂
weary thunder
yeah its my turn to rage bait
Whats your definition of ragebait
pastel laurel
obv we're gonna let new/inexperienced people war so they can learn
and they're gonna make mistakes
i mean we can lock in when needed
weary thunder
you have provided nothing of value to this conversation 😂
What did you find lacking value
Ongobb
pastel laurel
but if someone snipes us we're not gonna automatically force every chief to come on
timid raven
What did you find lacking value
everything that your fingers have typed
timid raven
i mean we can lock in when needed
pastel laurel
https://tenor.com/view/lie-lie-detector-cap-you-are-lying-stop-lying-gif-1219838...
?
weary thunder
everything that your fingers have typed
Not specific enough to mean anything, elaborate
pastel laurel
we sniped seq pretty flawlessly that one time, we missed 1 conn cuz i got voided when entering war but then we just 1 conned BT instead
we've also dry sniped a good bit
weary thunder
Drysnipes😛
pastel laurel
like 50% of the time our resnipes consist of at least 1captain
pastel laurel
yeah good job I think you have dry sniped corkus
we've dried sky as well multiple times
like idk what ur point is here
timid raven
we've dried sky as well multiple times
dawg I have been online when you failed sky
😂
weary thunder
dawg I have been online when you failed sky
gg?
pastel laurel
yeah but we've also succeeded?
like idk what point ur tryna get across
just showing that people make mistakes?
timid raven
like idk what point ur tryna get across
idk your point either
although then again
you guys are just baiting very clearly
pastel laurel
my point is that ur statement about every on map guild sucking at holding claims is false
weary thunder
you guys are just baiting very clearly
How so?
pastel laurel
my evidence is that almost every on map guild has held their claim for multiple seasons
therefore, they don't suck at holding a claim
your evidence is that they fail snipes sometimes
timid raven
my evidence is that almost every on map guild has held their claim for multiple ...
my evidence is that I have attacked all on map guilds and that they suck at ecoing and actually warring
but hey
you don't got to listen to me
pastel laurel
like suck compared to who???
copper shell
ok you are getting this a bit wrong daniel
timid raven
like suck compared to who???
objectively
weary thunder
To what standards are we on
copper shell
when you are attacking aeq you are playing your ground
you have all your ecoers on
aeq just has on whoever they have
so no they aren’t gonna have good eco
50% of the time
attacker guilds play at advantage 80% of the time
unless you are warring seq
timid raven
I mean
I solo war as well
I have taken 5 terr's from etkw before and they somehow lose 50% of their crop
timid raven
even if your point is they don't have people on
doesn't that prove my point?
timid raven
that defender guilds suck at warring?
pretty much yes
and that its funny when they conplain about em seeks
because they put 0 effort in to warring
copper shell
that’s not true
weary thunder
because they put 0 effort in to warring
Are we sure
copper shell
just because they don’t have to be good doesn’t mean they suck
timid raven
99% of on map warrers just vlow spam and don't have jobs
weary thunder
What do you think guilds want emseeks for?
copper shell
What do you think guilds want emseeks for?
money?
so you can fund your guild raiders?
weary thunder
so you can fund your guild raiders?
Yes, and warrers
weary thunder
We would want to
pastel laurel
Aeq has weekly war payout!
pastel laurel
yeah
copper shell
damn we just do it for the love of the game
copper shell
i would assume so
pastel laurel
but top warrer gets 1 stx, and then 32 LE and so on
copper shell
but either way the reason guilds had war payouts in the past is we used to ffa for sr
weary thunder
Its not a good system because there is no way for guilds to make money through guild activities 💔
pastel laurel
and then we also have warrer of the week which gets a stx
copper shell
i mean if you are warring it’s kinda for the love of the game
weary thunder
Ong
copper shell
believe me it will be very satisfying when you get the number one
speaking from experience
dunno if you’ll get there though
nimble marten
dunno if you’ll get there though
no alt wars next season 🥺
copper shell
hm?
weary thunder
believe me it will be very satisfying when you get the number one
That is 99% graids🥀
copper shell
That is 99% graids🥀
it used to be way less competitive yall came at a bad time
shi when i got it ts was free
we just held the claim with the most ters
nimble marten
we still do alt wars
make seq attack from main if they wanna war us!
also are you talking about when u were in ico
nimble marten
cotl 65
i mean you just put the same time that you would into graids but ffas instead
copper shell
true but we would have won anyway
i did it for the love
i was number two wars that season
never again
terrible experience
also ffa is like
you can have one guy do it
infact that’s like almost what we had
but graids rewards massive guilds like seq with 30 slaves on at once
nimble marten
i was number two wars that season
💔
i got #2 wars in a season when we contested etkw for ragni
and snaked all day
both guilds
copper shell
i was so tilted when i found out this random taq player overtook me
it was very tragic
nimble marten
#1 was ico ffaer 😭
copper shell
homeless edgarius?
that guy was like my successor bro
him and the innoke
i quit ffaing and they took ALL the burden
i kinda created a super toxic ffa culture in ico icl
i’m very sorry for the brain damage i caused to those people
copper shell
it’s like irreparable innoke literally got banned because he said the nword in ano gc
oh prem
yeah that was way after i left
1.8k without ffa is wild
japanese gave yall a rough time
hasty ridge
japanese gave yall a rough time
etkw + tnsr snake is probably the worst thing any on-map guild can face because of how persistent they are
nimble marten
etkw + tnsr snake is probably the worst thing any on-map guild can face because ...
Tnsr newgen
There was jfzn+etkw and Taq+etkw
Taq etkw switching claims and unbuffing hq so we couldn’t take
sage plaza
ruwr suck ass
😭
sage plaza
Tamago
sage plaza
no
copper shell
no
copper shell
wild
timid raven
u gotta have something to compare it to
15 people online btw
great job holding your claim 👍
pastel laurel
15 people online btw
no shot u still care abt this convo
get a life bro it's just a game 😭
but idk i wasn't on, prolly just mostly newer people or non warrers
timid raven
but idk i wasn't on, prolly just mostly newer people or non warrers
its right now btw
pastel laurel
*its right now btw*
oh lol
ionic nacelle
*its right now btw*
its not that deep
nimble marten
*its right now btw*
Notice how sequoia the guild you love also didn’t reclaim 🥀
copper shell
Notice how sequoia the guild you love also didn’t reclaim 🥀
i don’t think daniel is an seq fan
i am though!
< 3
nimble marten
i don’t think daniel is an seq fan
Nah they were saying seq is the only good defender guild
copper shell
i mean
i agree with that sentiment
you guys are alright
you could do better though
nimble marten
i agree with that sentiment
Yea but you are biased so
copper shell
I wish the seq alts wanted to war aeq again
it was so fun
i think etw is currently retired from alt warring
very unfortunate
nimble marten
I wish the seq alts wanted to war aeq again
I mean we aren’t trying for #1 so they don’t have to war
Just attack seq until we get number 1 to get them to alt war
Boom
nimble marten
but i love seq
😱
dusky stone
15 people online btw
@nimble marten U need to teach more of ur captains
weary thunder
15 people online btw
Lock in
weary thunder
you lock in
Im always fully locked in dont worry brotato chip✌️ 😼
weary thunder
high moat
my evidence is that I have attacked all on map guilds and that they suck at ecoi...
i feel offended that ppl like u r allowed to be called human when ur tiktok knowledge level of intelegence clearly would loose an argument against a wall🥀
humans really fell off😔
ancient slate
humans really fell off😔
high moat
timid raven
i feel offended that ppl like u r allowed to be called human when ur tiktok know...
damn I caught another Aeq gooner
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