#A few Mythic balance suggestions

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dull flame
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I know I'm going to get hate for some of these suggestions, but I'm going to put it out there anyway.

Idol - I don't like that Idol is currently just an offhand weapon. The new Major ID will make it even more so a movement weapon. Increase the base damage plus add +50% water dmg for Flying Kick/Tidal Drift). This makes sense especially with another Hero nerf and Battle Monk rebalance in the works.

Az - I get that it's a low level Mythic, but lower the dex minimum and give it more water and fire dmg % so it scales better with player level.

Alkatraz - please just give it 2 powder slots! even if you have to lower the base damage a bit.

Convergence - make the elemental conversions worth it. Lower int/def minimum or change requirements to str/dex. It's the only 1.20.4 mythic that has this issue.

Freedom and all other Rainbow mythics - make rainbow great again. I liked what was done for Singularity, the ability to focus on one element. Do more of that.

Inferno - just give it Super Slow and +1 attack speed so it has a place

Hanafubuki - POWDER SLOT!, even if it's just ONE!

open saddle
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I know I'm going to get hate for some of these suggestions,
Correct

eager owl
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idk about the other stuff but adding a powder slot to hanafubuki would remove the entire weapon's gimmick

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sure it's not exactly a great gimmick but there are better ways to buff it

feral tartan
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I don't understand the Inferno change

hexed wagon
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dawg all of these ideas suck im ngl except inferno but thats already been suggested multiple times

chrome barn
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some of these aren't bad but the hana idea would ruin the purpose of the weapon (even though I think the purpose of the weapon is dogshit)

sharp violet
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awful ideas

hexed wagon
chrome barn
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giving alka 2 powder slots honestly wouldn't be the end of the world either given the current state of earth mythics in general

hexed wagon
chrome barn
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fallen melee is not great (even though it's already solo carried by alka) and alka spell has been outclassed by tcrack for quite some time

hexed wagon
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i will stop talking

sharp violet
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thrunda just sucks

hexed wagon
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erm

chrome barn
hexed wagon
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both of you are kinda wrong 😭

chrome barn
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is there alka tech that I'm not aware of

hexed wagon
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no

sharp violet
sharp violet
unborn heath
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Btw while taking about this

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Can we change idol major id to not require aerodynamics for upper surf

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It shouldn't be aero cause it's so slow

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But it should make uppercut not cancel momentum

inner nest
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Me when I add a powder slot to hana / Alka and nuke the gimmick
More ele dmg to AZ won't help and technically each rainbow mythic already has a specific element jt prioritizes/leans into,(it's the element they have 45 sp of)
I haven't tried the new idol mid yet but it seems to encourage some silly upper surf tech and discourage cspam which js a step in the right direction ig

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Changing conv reqs to et ks one of the ideas of all time 😭

inner nest
north urchin
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Awful + not mentioning toxo smh

drowsy knoll
# dull flame I know I'm going to get hate for some of these suggestions, but I'm going to put...

Ok, I'll try to give my honest feedback here, since until now it was just about what horrible ideas....

Idol: moving it away from beeing a movement stick is probably good, but with the mid not working as intended atm I think we should wait and see. Adding dmg to tidal rift sounds good if u wanna play generalist and cycle with charge, but it would also move it back in the direction of cspam. I guess this would depend on how high tidal rift will send u after changes.

Az: I'm not a fan of this. Changing these low lvl Mythics is very dangerous for midgame balance. I know most ppl dont care about that, but there is also lvl scale. Idk its just an iffy topic, cause these mythics aren't meant to be good at higher lvls.

Alkatraz: I get the incentive. Sometimes I wish for 2 earth powders for hmelee too. But dmg-boosting powderspecials could really increase the dmg quite a lot. So idk about that one (Relating to one of the comments: wheres the gimmink in alka having no powder slots? Hana I get but alka? This feels more like a balance decision)

Convergence: I partly agree. Both dmg types rn only work with added powders and conversions. Pushing convergence (in theory) to bash cut, cause eart and thunder conversions. Sadly the effect for converisons is very minimal so it mostly applies to your powder slots. (I wonder why, I have to look into the dmg calc later, so I have no idea for now).
Changing reqs would take it away from beeing THE wf dual mythic, so idk this idea doesnt work for me

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Rainbow: The wep themselves arent really bad, all of them are alr tailored into 1 element with the extra sp they give and have elevated base to make up for not specialising in one element. The issue I see here is mostly item support, with better and more variable item support this problem could be fixed (maybe not freedom, but that is because of the terrible interaction with archer tree)

Inferno: I dont get the inferno hate. It has incredible stats (especially dmg stats for a fire mythic). Beeing at vslow atk speed makes it suffer from the same problem as collapse, and pushes it more in the direction of hmelee/ heavy hybrid than tstack. I know I'm rather alone on this, but I like inferno the way it is

Hana: Powder slots would remove the gimmik and would really break the wep. It has other problems that need to be adressed (why does it have + costs when jasmin bloom no longer scales with mana?)

Thats about it. Uh got a bit long sry.

broken palm
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And az

inner nest
drowsy knoll
zinc flame
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conv to et is wild, never suggest that again

autumn flume
chrome barn
lean glacier
# dull flame I know I'm going to get hate for some of these suggestions, but I'm going to put...

Idol got bad because of the ssurge changes that one happened, entirely killing uppersurf. So giving it more base damage and water damage I low-key agree with, maybe I wouldn't need to use macros to do any good damage with it :(

Ye Az is just a punching bag, agree, make it a lil better

Alka is mainly used for spell or tierstack fallen, I would fucking thrive if it had powder slots so quake could be used. And since new fallen actually performs best with heavy melee it's an even better idea.

Nothing to say about convergence, it's just like az, never used, barely decent

M.R.G.A

No, don't increase infernos attack speed eugh

Fixing hana ain't gonna do shit they gotta fix acro first

eager owl
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it's just that this does NOT fix hana