Merge Corrupted Dungeons' Fragments

[edgy idol]

Dungeons (upon completion) drop 2 types of items; a boss specific item and 3 dungeon fragments. For example CDS drops Corrupted Witherheads Bone and 3 CDS Fragments. You can use the specific drop to buy armor, weapons even horses. Dungeon Fragments however are practically only used for tools (there are 3 other possible uses; expensive t5 powder, expensive stat pot and forgery scroll).

This change would just bundle Fragments together (or even let them be used interchangeably) in the following way:

CDS - T8 (65) Shards
CIP&CLS - T9 (75) Shards
CUC&CSST - T10 (85) Shards
CIB&CUR - T11 (95) Shards
CGG(&CFF?) - T12 (105) Shards

This would generally remove the existing penalties you get from varying the dungeons you do. Mind you this would not change anything as to what kind of dungeon you would have to complete to get any tool. This would at most reduce the amount of time you need to complete the dungeon by one due to rounding. THIS WOULD NOT CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT ITEMS THAT AREN'T GATHERING TOOLS and also reduce clutter. It's just a more elegant way of implementing swapping between e.g. CUC and CSST FRAGMENTS (and only fragments) at will.

If you reply with just buy the tools from market you are missing the point

[hearty breach]

Not too sure on this idea. You’d just be able to grind CDS over and over to get the fragments you need for the tools you want. I don’t think it fits with the theme of dungeon completions, needing to experience them all multiple times.

[edgy idol]

cds only gets you the 65 tools

same as gg

the point is to interchange any fragments that already give the same tools

[grizzled sapphire]

Tools aren't the only things bought from dungeon merchants. You may not have bought them personally but plenty of people do buy them. I shouldn't be able to go into a dungeon with fragments from an earlier dungeon to buy the items in it thats just silly.

[hearty breach]

I see what you mean, now. Though that’s a better concept, it doesn’t really deem itself incredibly necessary to do. Why wouldn’t you just do the same dungeon again, instead of going out of your way to do another of the same tier?

[edgy idol]

there are only 2 other things you buy with fragments; forgery scroll and powder V (cur)

[grizzled sapphire]

There are only 2 other things you personally buy with fragments*

[edgy idol]

what else is there then

[grizzled sapphire]

The items sold in the dungeon shops lol?

[edgy idol]

no items armors accessories or horses are bought with fragments

[hearty breach]

Those cost the actual dungeon boss’ memorabilia, or whatever. They’re talking about the fragments, the 3 you get from completion

[grizzled sapphire]

Ah yeah I realized

i still think it takes away from the dungeon to turn "decrepit sewer fragment" into just a tier

Kinda boring

[edgy idol]

"immersion" is the main reason I wouldn't do this for non-corrupted versions

[hearty breach]

Regardless, I don’t see a good enough reason as to why 2 specific dungeons that share the same tier of tool would need to share fragments. It seems a bit too specific to make, especially since you can remedy this problem by doing the dungeon itself

[grizzled sapphire]

And for the corrupted ones I'd rather the effort be put into redoing forgery than this

[dense arrow]

It does suck that all those fragments take up so much space tho. If we could get bundles...

[grizzled sapphire]

I agree

[edgy idol]

fair but its such a small change

[grizzled sapphire]

In your eyes*

Im sure it's much more complicated backend then what you think it would be

[hearty breach]

I’d save concepts like this for a profs rework, too, since I’m already icky feeling about tools being entirely tied behind dungeon clears

[grizzled sapphire]

That too

[edgy idol]

Its just so annoying to run a dungeon 2.3 times for a tool

[hearty breach]

(Tool buffs/enchantments would make more sense, imo)

[trim comet]

"Fragments are practically only ever used for Tools anyway" this is just not true

[hearty breach]

What are they used for?

[trim comet]

armor

[hearty breach]

They mentioned powders, but, idk what else. Unless you’re talking about forgery scrolls

[hearty breach]

That’s the memorabilia thing they drop, not fragments

[trim comet]

oh mb

[grizzled sapphire]

Horse upgrade is definitely used too

[dense arrow]

Cosmic prisons in wynncraft please

The level up into enchant tool system they had was so fire 🔥

[grizzled sapphire]

Anyways this issue is only relevant for t9 and t10 tools in the corrupted range

Costing 7 and 8 specifically

[hearty breach]

Isn’t the upgrade done without fragments, though? Ik the only valuable ones are

[grizzled sapphire]

What?

[hearty breach]

Horses can be upgraded in the dungeon shop

[grizzled sapphire]

Shit it's the memorabilia isnt it

Raghh

Whatever

[hearty breach]

It dooby

[grizzled sapphire]

But anyways I dont see the point in fully redoing fragments because of tools for 2 level ranges

[edgy idol]

"fully redo"? It would just add 4 items and change it to that in 8 places

[desert cargo]

Imagine half the downvotes are from this

[hearty breach]

Wynn players, and discord members, do not play Wynn

[worldly ravine]

I aint gonna lie its such a small change for such a small "issue"

I think that's why it has so many downvotes because it wouldn't really change much for how people progress the game.
And it would just incentive running the same easy dungeon avoiding the entire point of the forgery

[dense arrow]

the first part of this is true, but it wouldnt incentivize running the same easy dungeon more than it already is. he's saying per tier of tool, make the fragments the same, but if they're different tool tiers, different fragments. so if dungeon A and dungeon B already both give the same tool, you can already run whichever is easier and skip the other.

[edgy idol]

thats how it currently is, if you (now) do a forgery run you have so many fragments from so many dungeons. This small fix would streamline at least the fragment part without any balance changes

[tough mantle]

nty i want people to suffer doing full forgery runs and such

[worldly ravine]

I see, that's a bit of a better explanation I was going on the assumption that it was for all the tiers for every dungeon

[thorny igloo]

Merge the dungeon item and the shards into one currency though :D

so you only have one item per dungeon and not two d(^^

[gentle ember]

Why not consolidate the items into "[Dungeon] Fragments," convert the final boss drop so that 1 boss -> 3 dungeon fragments, and make the equipment also cost fragments?
For reference where Peaceful Rest cost 6 Theorick Ice Shards it now costs 18 CIB fragments.
Besides the possibility of grinding for 2 things at once (like the Corrupted Nii Boots and a t9 tool in 3 runs of CLS) there's not really any reason to split the two apart.

[edgy idol]

this is directly counter to this idea

[edgy idol]

this balancing idea also runs counter to this suggestion

[gentle ember]

Oh I get it.

[wide vapor]

Hijacking this thread to say FIX FORGERY

[hearty breach]

Mayhaps the twitter post alludes to it

[uneven imp]

What about a dungeon pouch?

Was that already suggested somewhere?

[wide vapor]

I have a feeling its either that or aspect scrapping

[wide vapor]

we didnt get an OV pouch we sure as hell arent getting a dungeon pouch

[dense arrow]

What is OV pouch

[grizzled sapphire]

outer void pouch

[quartz patrol]

Remove the falling item rewards upon conpletion

I feel like a stripper every time

[wide vapor]

"yeah so this is something we want to do but aren't going to do"

[shy bay]

I do think you should be able to take your rewards from a higher level dungeon to a lower level one and have them be partially compatible in some way though. I think that would be fair

[opal python]

I think dungeons should just keep the amount of tokens you have from then as a data, not an item. U win a dungeon 4 times, u can buy this this and this item, these ones u need 1 more win etc.

Because there is so many dungeons and forgery and we have no search thing in banks, it truly is a pain when u throw out some fragment that u actually needed but didn't need back then

[shy bay]

If it was saved to the account (and not the class) I'd be very happy with that actually

[dense arrow]

I'd accept saved to class for that tbh