Couple of Mythic Aspect Reworks

[light bone]

Fallen's, Trickster's, Ritualist's, and Battlemonk's mythic aspects are kind of lacking for the bonuses they give, so here's a simple idea on some rework to these specific mythic aspects:

Fallen's Embodiment of Blind Fury:
T2:
Blood Pact:
+10% damage
-0.1% health cost
Massacre:
+2% corruption per main attack

T3:
Blood Pact:
+15% damage
-0.1% health cost
Massacre:
+2% corruption per main attack
Enraged Blow:
+0.2% more damage

Battle Monk's Embodiment of Complete Synchrony:
T2:
Discombobulate:
+30 max
Bash:
+1 hit
Whirlwind Strike:
+3 Range
+1.5 Blocks upward launch

T3:
Discombobulate:
+50 max
Bash:
+1 hit
Whirlwind Strike:
+3 Range
+1.5 Blocks upward launch
Generalist:
-1 spell to activate

Trickster's Embodiment of the Ultimate Show:
T2:
Mirror Image:
-5s cooldown
+1 clone
+5% damage

T3:
Mirror Image:
-7.5s cooldown
+1 clone
+5% damage
-5% damage penalty per clone

Ritualist's Embodiment of the Ancestral Avatar:
T2:
Awakened:
-30 mana to activate
+10s duration
Masquerade:
+5 Mana per activation

T3:
Awakened:
-50 mana to activate
+15s duration
Masquerade:
+10 Mana per activation
Haunting Memory:
-4% Damage Bonus(Lunatic)
-4% Resistance Bonus(Fanatic)
+5% Slowness(Heretic)

lmk how this can be improved

[narrow folio]

type shit og!

[sage mortar]

Are we deaduzz 🥀

[daring birch]

Fallen's is pretty good already

So is trickster

[weak sparrow]

Tbh archetypes you mentioned are off meta currently and they need a buff/rework tbh

Is trickster good rn

[daring birch]

well I use it for tcc and it does crazy damage

[weak sparrow]

Oh also fallen is pretty good right now so it wont need a buff prob

[daring birch]

it's good against certain things

[weak sparrow]

Current meta revolves around acolyte/fallen and arcanist def

[daring birch]

+1 clone and -7.5 sec cooldown is actually already crazy

[daring birch]

trickster aspect

[weak sparrow]

I mean yeah that is a op buff

[sage mortar]

🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀🥀

[daring birch]

trickster isnt amazing rn but it's aspect is in an okay place

trickshade works really well against tcc and can hold it's own in TNA

[weak sparrow]

Tna boss is decent in power actually tcc is def the hardest

[sage mortar]

tcc easy asf it's only cancer in graid

[daring birch]

did it with some friends yesterday... the horrors

[cosmic wadi]

Thought we moved on after T4 Mythic Aspects

[weak sparrow]

T4 mythic aspects were a little obscure

[sage mortar]

What were they thinking bro.. just make him attack every 2 seconds😭😭

[daring birch]

tcc is easy for good players because it's so easy to predict

[weak sparrow]

Fabled aspects t4 would make sense but mythic idk mate

[daring birch]

less random oneshots that you can't predict

[daring birch]

t3 is already so hard to get

imagine having to get 120 mythic aspects...

[weak sparrow]

Hut every time you go to raid you will get fabled aspects

Mythic doesnt need a t4 but fabled can get t4 maybe

[daring birch]

no I was talking about mythic sry

[light bone]

When did t4 aspects for mythics come from

[daring birch]

didnt mean it about fabled

[weak sparrow]

Ik

[light bone]

Oh ok

[daring birch]

I agree, but if fabled gets t4 i think regular should get t5 maybe, t4 regular is already the fastest to max I think

[weak sparrow]

Do we have regular aspects dude

[daring birch]

sorry legendary.

dont seem very legendary to me, considering I get like 10 a raid

[weak sparrow]

Oh ok ok, i don't usually go to aspects since ALL OF THE RAIDS GIVE US WARRIOR CURRENTLY

Assasin/archer and warrior

[hardy quiver]

Why tf do you keep deleting your threads

Stop posting if you're gonna keep deleting

[weak sparrow]

He doesn't delete

[hardy quiver]

Lie

[weak sparrow]

He only deleted t4, hashr is still there

[daring birch]

I finally got the mythic aspect I want after like hundreds of raids

[hardy quiver]

So he deletes

And he deleted before too, it's so annoying

[weak sparrow]

Like dude getting mythic is hard enough but getting the one which one you want is just crazy amount of time

I only deleted ability tree suggestion because most people didn't feel like it

[daring birch]

I have a friend who has some tier 3's and it took like months of grinding for hours each day

good thing is you never have to grind it again

[weak sparrow]

Can the other classes use aspects

Like If i grind on mage and get on the warrior can i use the aspects

[daring birch]

yes but u can only use warrior aspects for the warrior, for example if u got the warrior and mage mythic aspects on mage and wanted to switch to warrior u could only use the warrior one

[weak sparrow]

Oh ok ok thats good then

[daring birch]

Yeah, it's a cool system I just don't think we need level 4 because there will probably be like 4 players who will actually spend the time to grind it

[weak sparrow]

Although i think something off topic but

Quest's arent rewarding enough to get players to do it

A new player can go ahead and just grind mobs to get 105 crazy fast and do only required quests

[sage mortar]

What raid has random one shots that you can't predict ?

[daring birch]

fair but I would make a thread about that if I were u. this thread has already gone off topic enough

[weak sparrow]

Yeah ok ill do this suggestion def

[iron sphinx]

what is this

[sage mortar]

best feedback post in a while

[iron sphinx]

yea let’s just revert fallen sustain changes lol!

[daring birch]

if ur trickshade on tna sometimes the boss will suddenly turn around and hit you from several blocks away, I didnt even get a warning when it happened to me

[iron sphinx]

and let’s make trickshade do more damage!

[kindred shoal]

only mythic aspect rework that needs to be done is removing pentashot from the game

[sage mortar]

wouldn't have happened to me

[sage mortar]

Yea just make melee entirely unusable

[daring birch]

idk it's just easier for me to do tcc with a glass cannon because you just need to dodge the big attacks and get more openings

[kindred shoal]

Yeah?

[sage mortar]

Are we deadass

😭 I hate build diversity

[kindred shoal]

build diversity is when I encourage the player base to equip the same tstack pieces to achieve a 1 button playstyle

[sage mortar]

ragebaiiiiiittttt

Just remove melee from the game

[kindred shoal]

True

[light bone]

I’m not sure if people like or hate this suggestions idk

[kindred shoal]

To be real I don’t think these are the classes which need aspect changes at all

[sage mortar]

you took already strong aspects and buffed them for no reason it don't make much sense

Also generalist -1 spell to activate is insane lmfao

That would make an entire archetype depend on a T3 aspect

[iron sphinx]

tbh melee archer is super reliant on t2 aspect

removing it and changing how archer tstack works would probably be healthier for the game

[iron sphinx]

you suggested buffing like half the viable roster

and ignored almost every aspect that actually needs help

[cosmic wadi]

In his defense, the aspects are "uninteresting"

Which means they necessitate changes 1000%

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[gleaming dawn]

Can op provide their wynncraft profile so people can check their raid counts

[light bone]

Why do you want my wynncraft profile?

Why does that matter?

[iron sphinx]

because people think you might just be inexperienced

[devout spoke]

I LOVE discrediting player opinion based on playtime

[sage mortar]

i mean it only makes sense

[iron sphinx]

it’s valid when they call for reworks that shake up the meta

[gleaming dawn]

Ok but what if someone speaks without even having said subject they talk about

[devout spoke]

in this case though these aspect reworks don't really stand out as interesting or helpful (most of them are giving +damage on the side for no reason)

[iron sphinx]

most of them completely break endgame balance

[gleaming dawn]

Yeah

[iron sphinx]

which is why people are seeing if this is an endgame opinion or just misguided

[devout spoke]

I use helpful as like helpful for balance, not how op they are

[iron sphinx]

like the fallen one is literally just a revert of the fallen nerf

lol? how can that even be balanced 😭

[novel bane]

did you happen to look at bmonk/trick??

[gleaming dawn]

from my current understanding op doesnt play the game enough to not understand how broken every change is lmao

[iron sphinx]

and then enraged blow +0.2 undoes the cap nerf before the most recent fallen nerfs

[devout spoke]

the ones that do appear as intriguing strike me as "ok so this is fixing a problem with X, what if the base class just didn't have this design problem"

[iron sphinx]

which one of these screams necessary though

the only one i can kind of see is haunting mask change

[cosmic wadi]

Battle Monk obviously, screw our Generalist cycles 🔥

[iron sphinx]

everything else is just straight up broken

[gleaming dawn]

Also uh talking bout t3 aspects without even having t2 would be clowning around abit too much

[iron sphinx]

bashscream

[narrow moth]

its fallen upperscream propaganda

[gleaming dawn]

gee i wonder what 2 spells people will cycle

[novel bane]

also op put 0 tought into "-1 spell to activate generalist" that shit is turbo broken

[iron sphinx]

actually though because you would just take generalist upperscream on battle monk t3

[cosmic wadi]

Upperscream time

[iron sphinx]

😭😭😭😭 that would be so crazy

[devout spoke]

"Removed Air Shout, Warrior is a MELEE class"

[cosmic wadi]

Charge War Scream Uppercut

And then you could just one mana your screams

[iron sphinx]

you could greed axe kick with no upper cost nodes

[novel bane]

yes its very balanced

[iron sphinx]

yay!

[cosmic wadi]

Oh yeah uppercut is the one you want to 1 mana

[novel bane]

i love building 0 mana sustain 0 int 10 cps spell spam

surely that can't go wrong!

[gleaming dawn]

so yeah i think i have a pretty good justification asking for stats

[iron sphinx]

😭

[gleaming dawn]

Naaahh

[iron sphinx]

no assassin btw

[gleaming dawn]

._.

[iron sphinx]

shaman level 70

all of these aspects are completely fine

[gleaming dawn]

Shaman felt the mildest/one with maybe the most knowledge

But man i was wrong then

[novel bane]

2 tna clears 🔥

holy shit the tree on this guy's warrior

[iron sphinx]

idk i think we shouldn’t be harassing this guy for being inexperienced

it’s just this is such a new player take 😭

[gleaming dawn]

But they really shouldnt be speaking on something they dont even have of no

[iron sphinx]

fallen is incredibly good, trickster is incredibly broken, and ritualist is fine

[gleaming dawn]

Woulda made sense if they went for atree but aspects erm…

if someone speaks on aspects id generally expect to see some experience…

[narrow moth]

EFA paladin with bpact 😭 its another burger warrior

[iron sphinx]

burger saved my life