LB tweaks, rework, 2 New IDs (and new nodes)

[weak surge]

warp lb is better for most raids anyways

[indigo acorn]

lament is not op, is just the one that fits better, monster could be better in certain cases but we don't have much AT nodes

[bold anchor]

the only scenario lament doesnt clear every other weapon in is if you want infinite ws or 50k+ ehp

both of which are niche and mostly unimportant

[indigo acorn]

infinite WS is better for raids

[bold anchor]

not if u do way less dmg with way less heals and same utility (less actually)

[indigo acorn]

Warp offers a lot of things that lament cannot, thats the main reason why lament is used off-hand in warp builds

[weak surge]

goodws is actually pretty important

[indigo acorn]

the only situation where bigger heals are needed is in wars, on annie, LB is used but mostly because of both range of attacks + fortitute + comfort, but an abso is more valued, on Raids, you can heal most allies to max hp without lament

[weak surge]

not to mention warp dps is better than lament

[bold anchor]

warp sucks ass for lightbender and the only arguments others have used that makes any sense is -hpr for quick fort (other things can build -hpr aswell(with ws)) and the large ws helping them keep up with hero users (even if lament also gets ws)

[weak surge]

basically youd use lament if you dont need much ws and if you just want more comfortable healing

[bold anchor]

lol

[indigo acorn]

this

[weak surge]

then why is the tna meta warp lb

[indigo acorn]

lament offers more comfortable healing, but is not looked in most content

[weak surge]

its goes like
tna: warp lb
nol: lament lb
tcc: both

[indigo acorn]

tbf, tna has water resistant

[bold anchor]

because they prefer 40k ehp and 300 ws over faster clears

[weak surge]

buddy ele defs do nothing and also it has air res too

[indigo acorn]

and NoTG wants fatal or monster depending on the scenario

[fading cradle]

hes baiting for sure

[weak surge]

but it gives you faster average clears lol

[untold vessel]

Because warp is needed for kiting

[bold anchor]

no way people run warp lb for meta in tcc bro there are so many better options

[burnt siren]

🎣

[weak surge]

i said both

[indigo acorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1387538681455312936/1387584904648200384/image_6.gif

[bold anchor]

warp sucks lol

[weak surge]

yep warp sucks dont nerf it

[bold anchor]

i can understand the warp tna but anywhere else is...

[indigo acorn]

yeah, both lament and warp sucks

[fading cradle]

lament is giga op

[indigo acorn]

lament is comfortable, but not good compared to other weapons

[weak surge]

bro how are you both wrong

both warp and lament lb are very good they just have different use cases

[fading cradle]

whats better

[indigo acorn]

abso with inmobile bosses

[fading cradle]

xd

[bold anchor]

sigh

[indigo acorn]

reso

[burnt siren]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sock-worm-gif-7195073330628255153

[indigo acorn]

reso

[fading cradle]

'with immobile boss' 🗣️

[indigo acorn]

and in terms of mage weapons

[fading cradle]

whats better on mage

[indigo acorn]

warp and fatal does more dmg (fatal lack Qol that warp has)

and monster has more eHP

[bold anchor]

warp more dmg on lb is the biggest fucking joke lol

[indigo acorn]

then why lament is the off-hand of warp builds?

[bold anchor]

dont ask me ask the people who make those builds i think they are bad and dumb

something something they want lament for healing

[indigo acorn]

lament is used because of their healing, but again, healing is meaningless when all weapons can keep you alive as LB

[bold anchor]

lament also just does the most damage for no reason

[weak surge]

me when i lie

[bold anchor]

is the least bug carried so when thats fixed lament will be even stronger

[indigo acorn]

it doesn't

[bold anchor]

drop the build

that outdmg lament

[fading cradle]

so real monster ehp makes it beter than lament overall

[indigo acorn]

not overall, just if you are looking for a more resilient playstyle

[untold vessel]

Who gaf about ehp on mage

[fading cradle]

can we lock this thread its actually just baiting

[untold vessel]

What are you using ehp on mage for

[bold anchor]

u dont even play riftbender u cant really comment on dps numbers

[indigo acorn]

sometimes you want that for generalist builds

[untold vessel]

Lament outclasses

[indigo acorn]

and healing also depends on max hp

[bold anchor]

no the breeze guy is a massive warpbender glazer
they arent ragebaiting they just have been glazing it their whole life

[untold vessel]

lament heff% and fluid healing outclasses

[weak surge]

?

can we not make shit up maybe

[bold anchor]

idk man ur always the one saying warpbender is the best for lb for literally forever

[indigo acorn]

it doesn't matter when any weapon can heal you full

[weak surge]

no lmao

[untold vessel]

Warpwalker better

[bold anchor]

unless my memory is failing me i remember many times where ur talking about how much better warpbender is than others when it comes up

[weak surge]

i dont think ive talked about warpbender much at all but i could also be misremembering

[burnt siren]

its just bait after bait 💔

[fading cradle]

after many seconds...

[bright reef]

do you have obs

[bold anchor]

there have been a lot of warpbender glazers i might be misremembering

[weak surge]

idk i just think that both (warp and lament) are godo for different use cases

you saying it sucks is just not true but its not like crazy good or anything

[fading cradle]

it also feels disingenous saying every lb instantly heals u to full when the diff from fatal to lament is literally 2x faster healing and lament has faster stacking so more dmg lol

[bold anchor]

oh yeah they are just wrong other weapons do like ~8-9k heals after 3.5ish seconds which isnt even all ur hp

i get their point but they are also just straight up lying

[bold anchor]

also yes i apologise i was thinking of a different person i checked

would love to see the lb builds that outdmg lament tho!

[indigo acorn]

nope, my goverment pc barely runs minecraft

[bold anchor]

looks like u prob average around 105k main 70k secondary by my rough guess

but its hard to tell without video

[indigo acorn]

is more but i don't use mouse so when im saving ss i lose dps

[bold anchor]

was basing it off the peak dw

[indigo acorn]

is hard to reach that while trying to get a ss

[bold anchor]

between curse and fort and even sunflare if u have it u peak a fair bit higher than u average

[indigo acorn]

i would use mouse if i was on my computer, but is almost 20 years old and literally has oxide builup

[green pier]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/779802032512958526/1360886152793428069/togif.gif

🤡

Lightbender is stupidly designed and is broken call it rage bait whatever I don't care

[untold vessel]

you must be part of the 3%

[green pier]

.
"my argument sucks"

right

Please figure out how to not ping people when replying to them

[bold anchor]

i know i just forgot
went after oh i probably shouldnt have pinged like 7 times, oh well

[sleek perch]

F tier ragebait