some item rarity changes.

[umbral saddle]

A revision of an old post of mine... But some old item rarites should be changed.

Bobs Mythic weapons should be made fabled tier... maybe even renamed to bobs fabled weapons.

rewind and pandemonium to fabled accesories. [pandemonium has its own major id] [also rewind acceory since it has a mid]

Dodegar's Ultimate Weapon to fabled [new major id called paper cut: all attacks deal 1 damage reguardless of player and enemy stats]

[ember mulch]

blue mask fabled is crazy

[umbral saddle]

do you think it should get a mid that gives the player nausia from overuse?

[ember mulch]

obviously!

[rough juniper]

Why

[umbral saddle]

[we could even give it a nausia major id for overuse of movement spells ]

[rough juniper]

Why would the LI accessories be fabled what

[umbral saddle]

because its used in so many builds

[hushed rivet]

Where toxo derank to a unique weapon, this shi doesnt even deserve to be legendary 😭

[umbral saddle]

diamond accesories only just a suggestion can be ignored

[distant hedge]

something being used in "so many builds" isnt a reason for why it should be a different rarity

[umbral saddle]

nah demote it to normal rarity

[distant hedge]

by that logic lets make morph mythic 🥱

[umbral saddle]

it offers 60 sp

[rough juniper]

the only item's I'd promote to fableds are like.. rewind

and that one major id necklace sure

[spice prairie]

i really dont see the point in any of this

[distant hedge]

and?

[umbral saddle]

fair
that was included in my old post but I trimmed those

I agree with promoting rewind

[distant hedge]

all of the ones in this post are just excessive

[rough juniper]

Yea

[umbral saddle]

fair

[spice prairie]

i can see pandemonium too because it does have madness

[rough juniper]

all new fabled items currently seem to follow the formula of "gimmick item with a major id of some sort"

[spice prairie]

but other than that i think its all pointless

[distant hedge]

master hive definitely doesnt need to be a higher rarity, its fine as is

[umbral saddle]

rewind and pandemonium should be fabled can we all agree on that?

[spice prairie]

either way promoting the rarity of an existing item seems like it could cause a few minor bugs which arent worth the effort

[umbral saddle]

agreed will remove that one

[strange imp]

If blue mask were a fabled it should be renamed to red mask because red is the color of the fabled rarity

[umbral saddle]

how about rewind, pandemonium, and bobs weapons and call it a day

[rough juniper]

Why bob's weapons

[umbral saddle]

LOL
I included blue mask as a troll

[rough juniper]

erm they're calle mythic but they're legendary

[distant hedge]

why are you including trolls in suggestions you want to take seriously

[umbral saddle]

there called BOBS mythic weapons XD someone made a post about that earlier today

[distant hedge]

legitimate question

[umbral saddle]

only one that was a troll...

[distant hedge]

why do you expect people to take your post seriously when theres obvious trolling/rage bait in it

[rough juniper]

That doesn't mean anything

[umbral saddle]

fair

[rough juniper]

olux's prized weapons are now fabled too

[umbral saddle]

ok... well removed it

[distant hedge]

like people didnt take that one about the early game mob ai seriously because of the title being phrased in a pretty bad way

[strange imp]

Also by this logic every meta build armor pieces should be legendary and fabled rarity.

[distant hedge]

despite the guy being fully serious

[umbral saddle]

I actully would suggest adding minor major ids to those. in my original post as introductory fabled items but removed tvose

[umbral saddle]

oof

will avoid adding any trolls in the future...

[rough juniper]

Not really introductory fabled items if you can get fableds are like level 30

[umbral saddle]

well the rest im serious on.

[umbral saddle]

yeah but most player wont get them if they follow quests

[rough juniper]

You literally get a fabled necklace fro ma quest

[umbral saddle]

true

which is why i removed it from the original post

since once pointed out I considered that suggestion obsolite

[umbral saddle]

#1384580033192001596 message this has been a topic floating around for years at this point XD People have been talking about it since gavel dropped

[rough juniper]

it's been around for long because it's a silly pointless joke. hey guys it says mythic but they're only legendary haha

[umbral saddle]

because it was added in 1.12

it predates mythic items Lol

[rough juniper]

Yes i know

I don't think they would have made them mythic if they were added later either

[umbral saddle]

just give them all a generic major id, called bobs blessing which acts like unique stat buff and call it a day I guess.
or leave the status quo be.

[rough juniper]

They're not strong enough to be mythics and wouldn't fit the current role of fabled

[median stump]

Dodegar Ultimate Weapon Divine rarity when

[umbral saddle]

Nah demote it to normal rarity

or we could add deltas fabled weapons at the end of the introductry questline.
That could serve as a tutorial for players on what fabled items are

[bronze zephyr]

i have a suggestion for a certain mythic relik that should be demoted to fabled

[umbral saddle]

Dodegar's Ultimate Weapon
is the weakest legendary it should be unique at best

[umbral saddle]

toxo?

nah we would need a new mythic relik otherwise it would be the only class with 8 mythics instead of 9

[bronze zephyr]

woah man take it one move at a time

we gotta give them a few months to work on something like a new mythic relik

[rough juniper]

When the joke item made to be laughably pointlessly weak is weak

[umbral saddle]

make it mythic at this point XD

[rough juniper]

Unfortunately mythic is one step too far

i could see fabled

[umbral saddle]

agreed! [major id now makes it so all attacks always deal 1 true damage]

spell and melee included

Major id:
Paper cut: All attacks deal 1 damage, reguardless of an enemies stats.

[lusty maple]

https://tenor.com/view/fernando-alonso-fernando-alonso-f1-formula-1-gif-15409674451501385698

[umbral saddle]

also why are TNA acceories fabled rarity anyway?

[median stump]

I think that just changing the rarity of the items wouldn't be a good idea because even though they are one of the best rewards for the level, they would still need something more different for fabled, but I honestly agree with the upgrade of steamjet walkers and pandemonium to fabled, or other similar items that deviate a little from this standard

[umbral saddle]

yeah
I agree with that

[rough juniper]

old fableds

[umbral saddle]

steamjet walkers pandemonium, rewind, and a few others...

[twilit oasis]

altum spatium as fables is terrible, rr cost goes up so much mire

pandemonium ok though

[umbral saddle]

I see will remove that one then

[wary badge]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-he's-true-you-know-rage-bait-or-true-gif-4462006678486657666

[median stump]

Altum isn't even really unique tbh

[bronze zephyr]

im calling true

that thread was embarrassing

[distant hedge]

the guy did seem actually serious about it!

[umbral saddle]

Can we just demote a bunch of items to normal?

[distant hedge]

im gonna stop taking you seriously with comments like those

idk what to tell you

[umbral saddle]

I think normal rarity should be reworked.

[bronze zephyr]

it is odd how Unique is the most common item type

[umbral saddle]

they are usless and not even worth there sell value

[umbral saddle]

yeah

[tidal quest]

bobs mythic weapons should be mythic yeah agreed

[bronze zephyr]

I guess they are unique from eachother, unlike normal weapons

[umbral saddle]

Normal items should either be removed or reworked... i would suggest removing some items that are useless in legendary, unique and rare to normal with predifined rolls that you cant roll for.

Could reduce roll item bloat.

[lusty maple]

can we just demote a bunch of mods to vip+?

[twilit oasis]

which is not good, cause its the only way to actually remove money from the game. Fairly uniques probably play a minor part in that, but still

[umbral saddle]

????

some items I would suggest normalizing stats for... and making normal.

basically i think normal items should be like predifined roll items you can buy from merchents

[lusty maple]

normal items already have like a theme

[umbral saddle]

yeah

[lusty maple]

they dont have any stats, just dmg or hp, which like makes sense for normal??

[wary badge]

can we demote this specific moderators to exiled

[umbral saddle]

I guess... but there also useless and not even worth emeralds... they should either be removed entirly or reworked.... They are useless beyond measure

[lusty maple]

thats why its normal rarity

[umbral saddle]

they are basically 1/3 most wortvless things in all of wynn... they did have a minor use when scrap was a thing...
t1-2 powder t1-3 emerald pouches and normal items are literal junk

[lusty maple]

then like dont take them?

[twilit oasis]

Wouldn’t removing then drop the value of other gear

[lusty maple]

not really

[twilit oasis]

Since there is nothing below

[umbral saddle]

I would like a feature to autimatically trash them

[lusty maple]

i want free shiny mythics

[umbral saddle]

normal items were actully useful pre gavel

but stat creep over the years

t1-2 powders I feel like were only included... so that all legacy powders could be made obsolite once converted...

also to keep prices of t5-6 up

@rough juniper can you close this thread it is off topic now. [sorry for the ping]

[past oyster]

Easily found uses for normal items in my first playthrough and so did many others, sometimes your items are so far below your level just some HP can save you from having to deviate from continuing through the game

[umbral saddle]

yeah but they have lost value over the years

[past oyster]

I don't think first playthrough particularly concerns the value it just helps to not have to venture off to trade market in the unfortunate scenario you can find yourself in if you didn't loot hard enough or got very unlucky in your looting

[umbral saddle]

true but they have even lost that value over times

[past oyster]

Nothing as far as I know has changed that value..

[lusty maple]

u can close it urself btw

[bronze zephyr]

This thread got off topic and ultimately devolved into tomfoolery. OP's points have already been made and there is not much more discussion to be had. The mod team and I have decided to lock the thread until further notice, we will consider unlocking in the future if the members can provide a compelling reason to do so. For right now however, we'll be closing it

Thanks for your understanding!
-The mod team

[lusty maple]

Last

[umbral saddle]

i meant lock it...

[lament pilot]

Can we make sp variable?

[tawdry quail]

Can we make blue mask sp variable so it could fit as a fabled rarity item