#Wynn Analytics thread
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Some interesting things: Fallen is currently back at one of the top archetypes with none other than hero taking the spotlight
It’s pretty obvious that it’s hero by looking at the SP distributions, which only average out the assigned SP, and the current meta hero build has 80 or so agility, meaning that hero usage is likely way higher than other weapons
funny how lightbender is consistantly at the top as well
past few days are actually the first in history that lb was not first in tna nol and tcc
benefit of being the designed-to-be easy to use class
also people don't care about your dps
also what does n/a in the archetype graphs refer to exactly
the way we sort archetypes is entirely based on if they’ve taken specific nodes
while it isn’t entirely accurate, it’s the most simple way by far and like… good enough to sort people
and N/A usually refers to people that for some reason have multiple of these nodes, i.e. someone who took awakened (ritualist) and sacrificial shrine (acolyte)
or someone who just took some random shit that didn’t touch our predetermined nodes
mmh okay so it falls under my initial assumption that it just collectively puts the people with the most questionable trees in existence under one category to put it simply
like how new players often just go down the tree and fill each page instead of speccing into archetypes
yeah
this second graph is pfinder data hand gathered by our team
and the first set is api scraped
How is this data gained? I'd assume that raid data could be extrapolated by just tracking all online players and seeing when their raid counter went up, but for weapons, could that be accurate?
i believe it is gathered from a list of players with public profile who have completed one raid that day
calluum does most of the api scraping stuff
we have a second set to sort of… alleviate the public profile issue by having participants fill out information for people they find in pfinder
obviously it’s a much smaller set but it’s just kinda the workarounds we have to do
Ah, so equal parts crowdsourcing and api
yep
these graphs are straight fire
nol archetype spread pmo
i think so!
Is the purple sliver convergence and the red one apoc?
yep
most alive weapons int he world
@pine siren this place is awesome
can we get assassin weapons
lowkey gonna all be catas nirvs and oblivions
I dont think ive seen cata or oblivion outside of like 3 people
@paper kindle
@umbral mason
oh the graph of having it vs not is only for fallen?
I guess that makes sense seeing as bmonk players cant really avoid it
Id be interested to see what it might look like for paladins though
its not at all an issue on paladin though
tbf any pala data is probably 99% big macs
I'd argue it's just as much of an issue relative to the rest of the damage sources, just less noticeable because paladin isnt as likely to be a dps build
air shout isn’t an issue on bmonk nor paladin which is why no one complains about it
but fallen free damage multipliers make it super strong when it’s not really that crazy of a node on its own
I mean yeah, thats kind of what I mean by "relatve to the rest of the damage sources"
Id assume it still has a crazy % of the total output on those
just isnt contributing as much raw dps
if you want to talk about problematic damage sources ssurge is most of paladins damage
and ssurge is kind of problematic but no one really wants to talk about it
fair
it is the one thing I grab from another archetype on bmonk at the moment
well except fireworks and comet
are you able to also grab consecration
no
only if you skip discombobulate
but Im just acknowledging that it is potent enough (even without that) to be worth getting
so I can see how its a bit of a problem
I suppose paladin, being a team support archetype, should not be easily out-damaging bmonk, and yet it is right now
a large part of that is bmonk problems but still
i don’t think it does if you play the same build
obviously a build with titanomachia and fire sanctuary will do a significant amount of damage
but also the damage is likely super close because people really want paladin to have individual agency (for some reason)
problem is I cant exactly compare my bmonk stuff to paladin as building 1 charge cost to take advantage of generalist doesnt translate to anything useful for paladin
gonna be real i think it might just be weapon choice issue
Im mostly just taking community word for this I havent even played paladin
which is under the impression paladin beats bmonk
though I think for the most part I tend to outdamage bigmacs in raids, but I cant verify that
new wynn analytics when 🙏
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Defense 😭
Fallen omega nerf very visible, but so is the intox omega buff
And there might also he a surge a bit later when it got buffed even more
Do you have a graph with archer weapon spread?
i completely fucked up the cropping
but that is tna
epoch gets significantly higher dps uptime in tna so it makes sense (also the inaccessibility of laby)
time to eat some fallens for breakfast 🍴
laby is kinda bad in tna pf
and if you have a pre-made that actually cooperates with you, chances are you will run smth better anyway
also i love how all bows are spelt in their full names except gma which says grandma
kinda cute
it’s tna to be fair
i don’t actually think we have any details for notg anymore
I'm just happy to represent "other" in this graph
real build pride is being in N/A archetype
I am starting to think NoL needs more pulls for finishing the raid
does it also take twice as long as notg in graid parties?
trvth nuke
I feel like pfinder notg is like 6 mins whereas pfinder nol is 10 minutes
it already has more
and also more LE
tbh the key to making money in any raid is to find some friends
if you wanted to get money/aspects ytou're still better off doing any other raid afaik
true
ummm.. sure..
nol has more rewards and a better pool but i agree it still feels lacking compared to the other 3 raids lol
notg shits out too much fucking money
but less often
freaky
well ig pre-made nol can be great
notg is like diarrhea it just keeps coming
no one plays it in asia servers so i kinda just gave up on it
since nol on na and eu for an asian player is just hell
nol is like constipation it takes a while but when it comes out its fucking huge
I don't pay much attention to the regular rewards but in terms of aspect grinding I don't feel like a singular extra aspect is really worth the extra time
idk pfinds are ok
yeah nol also has the issue of being the hardest raid lol
(at least in my opinion)
notg is piss easy
dwagonic is an aussie and plays mostly on na 😭😭😭
my condolences
tcc is medium (very dependent on your total dps output)
she’s like #4 noler
tna is hard, but nol is the hardest i think
what do they play?
bad poopy plays like bashscream palamonk hero 🔥
random bullshit go!!! !!!!
and dwagonic plays like pz and at one point bolt divzer
i still wish the boss can be a bit better performance-wise
for some fucking reason
bolt divzer seems painful
on 200 ping 
if bolt ever gets a big buff I'm gonna try it tho
I really want the speedy high dps bolt gameplay with divzer
divzer is fun
so that i get to act like im good at the game
just play bolt anyways
honestly i would say just give it a try rn
it’s literally good (in tna)
but the dps aint there tho
isnt hadal puppet bomber more dps with way more defensiveness
interesting. I was told bolt divzer barely reaches 300k dps even with crafteds
on a dummy
why would it be more against boss?
hitbox
less arrows missing
cuz bouncing and grape bombs
also ima be real
okay you hyped me up
like get the theory out of the way
all this dps on dummy
just play it
anyone have a noncrafted build
and see how it feels
half the players in this game can’t pilot it
I tried to play spell bolt dissociation epoch once
can’t pilot like warp arca
it wasnt great
idk why they are so concerned with dps numbers
quite frankly bolt is hell to play rn without divz
since divz is just
correct
so much more dps
ngl im really bad at playing low sustain arcanist lol my gameplay is meteor meteor heal ice snake meteor ice snake (miscast) meteor meteor anvil sound anvil sound heal anvil sound
Yeah I've literally been avoiding my archer because bolt isn't strong enough to actually handle things well with ignis
the main reason why people hate bolt is because they have never tried divzer
tbf i do play spring bolt sometimes
but that thing is not good lol
etw is too hard for most players
even though divzer probably the easiest etw to play
well
unironically ehp isnt bad at all with 30% arrow shield
i think i'll be fine against anything as long as it's not orphion
bolt 
divzer vs orphion seems...
but oh well
im a ga skipper
unfavorable
you are so based ngl
i HATE ga
true...
42
it wouldnt save you that much
10k ehp instead yay!
it cancels out the natural -def that archer has ig
maybe you tank one more hit from the crab in tree room
but in boss you are still a one tap
for 40k dps
ok but if divzer is actually 500k dps against greg I understand its good
is it also 500k dps uncrafted?
uncrafted is like 130k storms vs 170+
the rings aren’t that expensive if you go a cheaper option
that loses like 2% thunder/spell per ring
out of 32
yeah sap rings arent that expensive rn
you can t2 them
and you can probably find someone whos gambling divzer rings
and buy the low roll ones off them
silver bullet spam is so real for hybrid divzer
dont be scared of using crafteds
except this what the fuck man
divzer has peak rawstack stats ngl
if bolt had reasonable atree support for it, it'd genuinely work out
does anyone have the current divzer meta build
and how would i get my hands on crafteds
https://wynnbuilder.github.io/crafter/#4Ocmc8e8e8e8e0da0
Ring Lv. 103-105 (2✫, 2✫)
[ Lunar Charm | Naval Stone
Glowing Tree Sap | Glowing Tree Sap
Glowing Tree Sap | Glowing Tree Sap]
prof sweat discord
i send
wisedrag what is your username
wisedrag
i’m tryna stalk you
ty
im not even doing much these days in the game
tcc was the best raid for aspect grinding in early 2.1 sob
theres just not enough people who match my build freak smh
i stopped doing it after aspects are done…
how expensive are these
actually depends how expensive sap is
sometimes they’re reasonable
but sometimes they’re like 5 le cuz someone gouged it
honestly still way cheaper than lets say buying a good photon
but my low level mr slap ring 🥺
my build sucks how do i fix it
the humble photon:
(the build isn’t better it’s just positive mana now)
less sinful than suppression honestly
i fucking hate suppression fucking 1 in 101 for max mr roll and fucking hell to grind
make it worse so you dont want to use it 😁
Something about suppression has just made me pretend it doesn't exist once I got better a building
please do
yeah they are a little expensive now
mr spam bad in cps meta really
It's not that; I don't normally use max cps playstyles
Something about the item just feels gross
wisedrag can you buff spring
ok @tight pine i have two crafted rings is the rest nych deli cwg electromage?
dont you use crafted necklace as well
dstatic and ...?
static brace and crafted necklace same recipe
I love how the noncrafted armor for Divzer hasn't changed in years
It's still the same 5 items
only 623 NoLs recorded...
I need to get back to running it soon
can you track archetype combinations too
arcbender 🤝 shacro
i can invite you to the discord and you can ask the guy who does it
i have never really experimented in arcbender or shacro so i have no idea how the trees look
shacro is going to be a 0%er
you have to intentionally ignore blocking nodes in the tree lol
the world if wynn had an api of usages 😭
LMAO
a certain percentage of those are actually non laby players btw
what the hell
who see people say "laby is best trapper weapon" and think Oh i go copy that tree
and then you see them hold like briars embrace and you hear the distinct sound of phray
actually yeah that would be cool 🙏
wth when was this made
all the girls are girling girling
hey look i forwarded it u suck panda
WHAT
what
All the girly girls
what is this referring to 😭
wgi u wasb ´t gere wgeb tgus gaooebed ub tge tgread
whoa i wasnt here when this happened in the thread
Yeah we formed a kpop girl group
which one am i
can i join
omg thanks
they all serving but like that one especially
how’s ur korean
nonexistant really
buuuuut
if you give me lyrics i can sing them 😁
Crazy
Can you do new analytic on Rift? I've been seeing it a lot more but I wanna see actual numbers
Doom
And it grew 
i can be your hero
idol has fallen
the fact that the most used weapon is being used 5.5 times more than the second most used is certainly a stat
and to think the ratio would probably be even more insane if a single build (bigmac) didnt exist
I do think hero is over represented in the hand picked data
From when I previously looked at warriors with agility over 60 or something in api scrape data it wasn’t close to that
to be fair it is like mostly tna
we have like actually 0 groot data
and like 50 tccs i think
and like a couple hundred nols and thousands of tna points
i should actually provide breakdowns for where the raid data comes from
data comes from people manually recording things
and most of the people recording data do tna
I'd probably be running NoL a bunch right now if I wasn't doing outer void to buy simulators for shiny guardian
because like groot is p much exclusively ran in 4/4 parties so no one records
and tcc is low key also like that
jesus christ
conv apoc don't even get their own section 😂
Convergence is the purple sliver but apoc's sliver is completely gone
It def is cuz when I gave run down for people to gather stuff I said to put it down again if u see the same person cuz the logic is if the build is good enough they will spam it
Plus it also a pain in the ass and not fair to tell people who are volunteering hey make sure to remember this ign and not log it again
No way about going around no bias especially without a mod or js script to help log data into files and yea hero def over represented in hand gathered but it's just another view on it and similarly reflects the api scrape
yea i gotta like get off my ass and figure out the google sheets backend
ok that makes sense
this is only pfinder right
I was gonna say that notg is probably all reso and tcrack/alka/bbath
but no one's running that shit in pfinder
people run reso in pfinder?? (me)
sorry i forgot about this thread ^ 9/2/2025
@pale tree
9/1/2025
8/31/2025
solid playrate
weapon analytics is fucking dead gg
sharp is so back
looks inside
epoch and divzer 😭
people need to stop sleeping on spring sharp in tna shit is literally just warp but more chill
-40 dex
you take one look at that and then people just don't use spring
Interestingly almost all wynn mods r chiefs of guilds
The second largest group is owners
For mod managers, 2 r owners, 1 was Strat but current no guild
For the other 22, 14 are chiefs, 3 are owners, 2 are captain, 1 is Strat, 1 is recruiter, 1 is no guild but was recruiter
prob cuz mods play a lot
Based on this it appears GSW is the biggest mod guild, followed by Galaxy Knights and Avicia
Profession Heaven is out there too
I’d argue the only true mod guilds are Guardians of Wynn and Galaxy Knights due to their exceptionally high mod-to-normal player ratio
No firm definition of mod guild in gcomm
Which is silly
When prompted, Avicia is an instant response and generally agreed upon. Further prompting got agreement for Galaxy Knights and Guardians of Wynn
However they aren’t able to agree what makes a guild special to be a mod guild
BFS is associated as a mod guild most often yet it only has 2 mods, which is very small since it’s a full guild
If 2 mods is the criteria, then there’s Profession Heaven and Atlas Inc
Decidedly neither are considered ‘mod guilds’
what
mod guild is just a term people created to discredit the guild that have mod in it and implying the guild they saying have moderator do their bidding
probably guild that are big and active enough can be consider a "mod guild"
Okay that’s a much better definition
so i could direct people here so they could ask to join
w rizz
it’s called engagement bait
What’s the link
And it works
ummm lemme put it in my bio ig
check bio
what a shill..
corporate shill
i’m being paid by big data to yap all day in wynn main

are those stats even legit
the archetype tallies don't really seem to reflect my experience
and are the total comps from the api or ...?
No it's made up to push an agenda
what agenda
notg somehow has more comps than tna+tcc+nol
ok well slightly less but you get the point
Idk just whatever we want to push and nerf
We love making up numbers I love it so much
Truth Nuke
somehow bolt will remain the last in every raid after this patch
divzer needsa a buff i think
Can't u see its why they buffed it so much making up fake numbers worked!
myeah
do people still play wynn unironically or is everyone spining in afk pool on housing
spooky spirits will save it
everyday i spin a wheel and punch out numbers
archetype tallies are # of people who completed any amount of the raid
alright
Yeah you could do a raid 1000 times on one class on 1 day and it would count 1 time to the tally
@lavish jolt did you orchestrate freakingnerd crashout to advertise wynnlytics server
bc it’s working
he was just super interested in analytics
answer the question?
i cant he blocked me after asking
yea
@gloomy musk
holyyy
hey around 35% i wasn’t far off
its mostly divzer too
I’ll look closer when I get home what’s making it up
It's prob just to try out since first day but like still crazy tho
I'm pretty sure aco still best in slot in groot
you wont be laughing when bolt finishes it's transition to the fast melee archetype and exploding becomes meta
I pfinder queued 6 tnas today
all of them were at least 3/4 bolt
4 of them were 4/4 bolt
boltslinger 🐐 🐐 🐐
can we get an enormous ritualist buff next
I want ritualist to be 30% of archetype split
assassin stays losing I guess 😂 😂
batterythekid what have you done
😂
is it even that dead
It’s still the best
But a random -15% out of nowhere is crazy
Oh maybe not out of nowhere
But like
It’s very sad
Everything else sucks way more
i mean
I did nothing wrong

Shaman stays losing everywhere besides notg
hello everyone
GOODBYE
hi panda

straight up slinging it
hello i need the most average people
of all time
@bleak zenith i have a job for you
find me
the most average raiders of all time
@kind hollow
Hello this is me
hello i want your data
What data are u looking for
wonderful!
average room times, room distributions; average raid time, raid counts*average raid times, that again but normalised, this is anti-anti-nol propaganda! nol is not least ran with time accounted for surely!!!
most of my runs are probably going to be nol 😳
i love nol 😻
me too!!!!!!!!!!!!
find me more
@nocturne dome
wtf..
@lavish jolt if aco still hits above 5% in this next patch it might be a miracle
actually maybe
but also like idk
most ppl were playing dtotem anyways
and also not affording a reso
22 average int suggests that most people are playing intless
i’m sure it drops though
i’m predicting like 6 percent just cuz there’s nothing better to run in notg
oh wait i forgot about the blood pool reset mechanic
nvm 😭
aco stand in corner and get blood tax
fun and engaging gameplay
hello wynn analytics thread
fun graph next time you are losing an argument in wynn main

cumulative graph of what percentile of raider you are to number of raids you completed
er
reverse percentile
so for instance at x = 20 thats 20% of players contributing 73% of all raids
ty calluum from wynn analytics
raids completed is individual count of players
so at the very least 65489/4
graph shows a heavy skew towards top players contributing a huge amoutn of raids
from calluum as well
3292 Unique players is more than I expected
thats over past 11 days only
wanna see something funny
this is over all the data calluums collected
225 days
Total raids completed: 1879838
Unique players who completed raids: 25859
Days with data: 225

25k Unique players in around 2/3rds of the year is more than I expected
But more importantly what can I do with this information
point to to the 90% and tell whoever you are getting ragebaited byt that they are there
and point to the top 5% and say you are there
I see
My idea was to say Dead game and extrapolate this information to daily concurrent users
Raid contribs by top percentile playas
Top 0.1% of players (32 players) contribute 250,764 raids (8.43% of all raids)
Top 1% of players (329 players) contribute 948,739 raids (31.91% of all raids)
Top 5% of players (1648 players) contribute 1,818,357 raids (61.16% of all raids)
Top 10% of players (3297 players) contribute 2,242,989 raids (75.44% of all raids)
Top 20% of players (6594 players) contribute 2,614,082 raids (87.92% of all raids)
Top 50% of players (16485 players) contribute 2,905,886 raids (97.73% of all raids)
Raid completion thresholds
50% of all raids (1,486,616 raids) completed by top 943 players (2.86% of playerbase)
75% of all raids (2,229,924 raids) completed by top 3226 players (9.78% of playerbase)
95% of all raids (2,824,571 raids) completed by top 11628 players (35.27% of playerbase)
Top 0.1% players by raid count
- Fuguh - 17,757 raids
- Shisouhan - 14,034 raids
- Eironn - 10,443 raids
- 5up3rZ - 10,055 raids
- MrHmar - 9,428 raids
- blaides - 9,303 raids
- Mehku - 9,283 raids
- Csm1tty - 8,712 raids
- BatteryTheKid - 7,849 raids
- Warze - 7,809 raids
- PeanutsYeah - 7,757 raids
- Eigha - 7,631 raids
- GAZtheMiner - 7,346 raids
- TapaRice - 7,289 raids
- BestSkillOwner - 7,276 raids
- 0110jimmy - 7,145 raids
- azuretf - 7,027 raids
- Lhz271 - 6,902 raids
- Badpoopy - 6,892 raids
- bannedandwiped - 6,878 raids
- eif - 6,613 raids
- NG_Life - 6,600 raids
- Twigbones - 6,522 raids
- Dwoc - 6,289 raids
- EscimoCandy - 6,273 raids
- TradieMasty - 6,177 raids
- Autosmord - 6,137 raids
- spaisuiker - 6,055 raids
- Pandamonium - 5,914 raids
- uraomotelovers - 5,900 raids
- TheFreakingNerd - 5,761 raids
- Wintel_ - 5,707 raids
congratsto everyone who made hte list
this very specific type of data i have for a lot lot longer like since raids were added i think; its all the ab tree and sp storing thats only from this year
Did not know our constructive feedback champion @native wind was so locked in
I shall refer to this graph next time im in an argument to show that I know better.
Ok twin
There is like 5 guilds that have all these players
Big sad
I'm so awesome
u suck
i dont think i can send the gif here
do it anyways that gif is completely normal
battery stole my bronze badge
🔥
Is there data on wars?
no 😁
why do the top .1% control more raids than the bottom 50% of players
raid gap is unbelievable.
raid capitalism
free market raid
dw the trickle down raidonomics will make the bottoim 50% get mroe aspects eventually
im committing raid tax fraud
@fiery wren why so many....
pretty sure he has like 2-3k more cuz he’s api hidden
if that makes you feel any different about batterythekid
there like so could be and ive done a bunch at times and not posted
war analytics is just depressing and boring
like yeah the Herfindahl Hirschman Index has gone down almost every season straight
🥹
i mean i could do the exact above function for warrers but meh
if im bored around christmas ill post some war data
@everyone Hello, we're holding an event to gather data on raid completion rewards. It'll be running for a week starting <t:1766167200:F> and there'll be prizes available at the end of the event, check out #event-info (in wynn analytics discord) for more information!
The mod Js Macros is required, there's setup instructions in the channel linked and if you run into any issues please reach out for help in https://canary.discord.com/channels/1351230490681671701/1450955879083151380 (macro-help)
Anyone is welcome to participate but your Main Access privacy setting on the Wynncraft website must be set to Public for the duration of the event.
As usual, the link is in my bio 😁
Using archangel shade for the entire duration of the event
dw it’s tracking reward pulls only
you’d probably grief your clear rate
Oh I see I need to use moontower archangel then
Moontower best 😻
wait grief pfinder on alt raid on main
to raise ur chances
💡💡💡
alive
@lavish jolt revive plz
ts too much work
@lavish jolt
