#A Less Aggressive Approach to Guild Competition

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tough jacinth
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I've seen too many dramas being related to guild war.
During wars, it's very easy for players to view the opposing guild as the "enemy", which often leads to toxicity and hostility.
I believe this situation could improve significantly if the competition involved something completely unrelated to fighting other guilds directly.

Here's my concepts of a new system:

  • A extremely challenging boss, designed by content team.
  • The boss has different difficulties.
  • Guilds get season ratings by beating the boss. The higher difficulty your guild clears, the more base rating you gain. The rating is also scaled with how fast the boss is defeated.
  • There are cumulative rewards. But guilds only compete based on their best single run's rating.
lapis socket
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no

pastel folio
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I mean talking about "boss" it's graid

lapis socket
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there’s not a single guild warrer who would like this change

rough jacinth
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this already exists its called guild raids

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marsh hazel
lapis socket
marsh hazel
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Removing drama literally removes one of the best part

boreal stream
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this is a great idea! maybe the extremely challenging boss could have some challenges that lead up to it which require coordination

lapis socket
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this has to be rage bait

boreal stream
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hmm maybe you could get a buff or something after completing each challenge to help replayability

marsh hazel
boreal stream
rough jacinth
tough jacinth
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why would someone enjoy dramas

lapis socket
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he doesn’t get it

marsh hazel
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Stolen idea from that one guy eternal whatever + guild raids + wont happen ct linny confirmed guilds only change on major rework

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marsh hazel
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The best part is to gaslight an enemy guild into saying they are racists

lapis socket
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holy fuck moco you are so based

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the best part is demonizing avo to 8 snaker guilds

marsh hazel
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I mean quite literally thats how guild cenario still ups beacuse a lot of drama happens and make big interactions with other members

lapis socket
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bully them into giving up a third of their claim

tough jacinth
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dramas related to my friends, and they all broke up?
sorry no

marsh hazel
pastel folio
marsh hazel
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Who exactly was your friend

tough jacinth
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I did war for 3 months
and found it totally pointless

marsh hazel
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And are not into the community

lapis socket
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if you don’t want toxic pvp gameplay just stick to guild raids

tough jacinth
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cause I want the environment to get better?

marsh hazel
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Its like saying you know whats better for others

marsh hazel
tough jacinth
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one of them is typing

pastel folio
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Not what you thinking

marsh hazel
uneven prawn
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just calm down. both of you are right, changing sth will sacrifice another things that a group of people likes it. can we wait for ct's replies and comments to see how we can make a good balance on gwar

main jasper
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i lost all my friends because of warring 😡 😡 😡 it should get reworked, i upvoted this thread

marsh hazel
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But sure @abstract saddle @unkempt canopy

lapis socket
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frivolous mod ping

uneven prawn
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👍

pastel folio
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Can't really make my self into upvoting this but I mean, warring is a pvp aspect of the game so(I mean like... Its not like you should delete pvp if it's toxic)

marsh hazel
marsh hazel
grim crag
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I love guild drama please never remove it

edgy prawn
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How to make guild wars into just being graids

uneven prawn
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Guild war initial purpose is good. Motivating guilds to do research on specific amazing builds, practice until having a great collaboration etc.

But the feedback we are available to give is how to minimize the negative results and create a winwin balance from guild war (assume there are bunch of gwar event enjoyers and haters)

pastel folio
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Guild war is the "pvp aspect" of the game, and alot of guilds spent alot effort in this

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Don't see it should be straight up revamped (or simply, removed at this case)

quaint wedge
cedar bronze
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would this remove map territories? Idk about this lol

quaint wedge
marsh hazel
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I just dont see the point of changing something beacuse unrelated stuff happend to you

pastel folio
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The original poster is

marsh hazel
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I mean the original poster refered him so i thought he was too

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Mb og for mistaking game

dreamy tinsel
gritty fossil
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realm of war needs to speak

heady whale
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You know how they have allies you should also be able to declare enemies and instead of sending resources you can send laughing emojis

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and it goes into their guild chat

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and you can spend resources to make the emoji appear larger in chat

rough jacinth
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We need more great thinkers like flare to save this game

sturdy beacon
edgy prawn
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Omg hi bad

sturdy beacon
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when i get cross mapped sniped by seq i call them slurs in my head

heady whale
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what if you could spend resources to legally send a bad word to their guild chat

sturdy beacon
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i would!

edgy prawn
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Bad when was the last time fub was on the map xD

heady whale
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wait like shout bombs but it allows you to type a single bad word instead

sturdy beacon
edgy prawn
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Solo warring in jungle again?

sturdy beacon
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by on map i mean testing dernal

heady whale
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bad word bomb $10 per bad word i think salted might be able to afford another yacht with this one

edgy prawn
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Crazy

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jolly sierra
novel fjord
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I think its more of a problem that raiding the wrong guild in a guild war could lead to players being blacklisted from 60% of the community, but thats just me

rough jacinth
novel fjord
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It used to,

rough jacinth
heady whale
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i think what makes guild wars so fun is that you're competing against people if you remove that aspect then it's boring

edgy prawn
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When lol

sturdy beacon
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since every single guild is here can you guys use dernal

heady whale
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what's dernal

sturdy beacon
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theyre calling it the #1 guild-focused bot

edgy prawn
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Some poopy bot wouldn't recommend saltroll

sturdy beacon
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word on the street

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theyre calling it "botfox 2.0"

heady whale
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lol

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what do you even need a bot for

sturdy beacon
novel fjord
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Ah, basically a scraper that checks if a guild is online or not

heady whale
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I think a good idea for wars is instead of just announcing the guild that took your territories, also list the player (s) that took said territory

sturdy beacon
heady whale
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no i meant in game

sturdy beacon
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oh yeah

heady whale
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not these unreliable bots

rough jacinth
heady whale
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that like don't work half the time

sturdy beacon
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yeah its not super accurate, i wish there was more api shit for guilds

heady whale
sturdy beacon
rough jacinth
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"great work on taking that territory"

heady whale
sturdy beacon
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idk if id pay 10 for one bomb

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10 for 4 bombs

peak cypress
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awr

heady whale
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rawr

tribal sun
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Well and ugh
Good luck trying to change anything in guild wars. Even bugs are neglected

heady whale
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they shoyld make guild wars like btd6 or clash of clans

tough jacinth
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I don't care if they decide to take this or not
The more detailed stuff lies on them
I am just a werid guy that talked too much

rough jacinth
burnt mica
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jkjk

main jasper
marsh hazel
heady whale
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omg sir deadly hypixels kyblock

tender python
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And those unique powers get stronger the more you get them

heady whale
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wait what if we made guild warring an MMORPG like you can select a class to war and unlock abilities that help you war

tender python
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Turn wars into actual pvp

heady whale
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yes

tender python
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Wars being a "capture the flag" with everyone online on a guild being able to endlessly join after respawning until the time is up or the tower falls

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Imagine the lag, the jank

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The CHAOS

main jasper
tender python
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War isn't pretty, pretty boy...

cedar bronze
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we should turn wars into "lootrun wars" and whichever guild gets the most mythics gets the most season ranking!!!!!!

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make mythics more accessible to new players AND add some rng to guild leaderboard saltroll

tender python
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Replace wars with rap battles

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I'm pretty good at rapping, you can say I'm a professional

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Trolling aside this thread is meaningless, there's no competitive activity that won't be even a lil bit toxic, that's human nature

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Some may even argue that a "healthy" amount of it is even desireable as a drive to improve and be better

velvet yarrow
proper fossil
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bait used to be believable 😔

tender python
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What if guild wars were a Stardew Valley fishing minigame

cedar bronze
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the bait was never believable

meager lantern
meager lantern
rough jacinth
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as he should

tender python
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🗣️

cedar bronze
meager lantern
cedar bronze
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finally an incentive to prof like people wanted!!!

tender python
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Stop pinging me I'm tryna use my phone as a calculator for work 😭

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Y'all keep drawing me to the funny bait thread!!!

rough jacinth
meager lantern
next fern
tidal sapphire
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but like what is this post this literally just changes warring into guild raiding im actually so confused

junior fossil
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can we have a mega alliance take on the guild boss pls thx xoxo

meager lantern
junior fossil
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I never tried convincing anyone i dont care

untold charm
meager lantern
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gg

tidal sapphire
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Imo they should just make guild style world events that are actually good/difficult that give personal rewards and materials/ingridients to help with warring/guild costs

untold charm
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i need there to be another mega alliance so i can antagonize it

junior fossil
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im sorry pomnto you may be deprived forever :(

untold charm
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💔

naive pilot
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guild drama so 🥀
shi not that serious

tender python
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Guild drama:
"Bro they changed the banner on a place for 24min the audacity bunch of numbnuts"

umbral loom
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Well should I actully revive my old guild war idea suggetion document and actully give examples...
Also no... it should have varying boss types, that require different styles but are able to be seen in advance like the difficulty of a terretory. but can be faked like how you can decive attacking players.

novel fjord
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Tbh guild dramas are alot lower bar now, pre 1.20 it was basically mega alliance and blacklisting, whats funny is that now if you piss off the wrong people you lose out on a bunch of item trading groups

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Its alot nicer now

quaint wedge
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guild dramas are usually more about specific people not guilds

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with a few exceptions

umbral loom
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yeah

umbral loom
limpid sable
umbral loom
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honestly I dont see the point in being toxic or rude... When i comeoff like either of those i'm generally 1... super exicted. 2 very irratated, 3 activly angry

naive pilot
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guidl drama is js being silly to ct and talking about stupid people/guilds now fr

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esp at the start of 2.1 when no one was warring cuz guild raaids

umbral loom
naive pilot
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yeah stupid person

lime sun
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I do wish alliances can be more tho...

umbral loom
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honestly I my dream for guild wars is to be fun... requiring stratigy and guild diversity but also some lowered absurdity... compared to guild towers... I think a hybrid system between the old, the current and boss entites... a simple version of my idea which may have been yoinked to make this post is for 3-5 boss types a guild can choose from which scale depending on the upgrades and difficulty that a terratory has...
These would require different playstyles but would be displayed from the start. But you could fake it like how you can put fake low over very high terretory.
Basically simply require differing stratigies, and they would be rather simple but complex, having unqiue mechanics, between them but nothing crazy.
Basically the idea is for a war sentry, which you fight instead of a stationary tower or swarms.. but some of them could spawn swarms of fodder mobs.

umbral loom
naive pilot
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i think the strategy is sort of there but only for strats and not the warrers themselves
idek i dun wactually warh

umbral loom
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Basically I think there should be boss diversity, beyond just the teir of a tower.

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one fun idea I had but threw out ages ago was definding guilds able to join in wars...

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But that would be an utter mess. [wynncraft dosnt have standard guild wars like many mmos]

lime sun
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Now I think about it...

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Why not have smth similar to the heroes minigame...? Escept after timer runs out it's defeat a boss...?

umbral loom
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Reason i scrapped my own guild war suggestion is because it felt boring and too repetative with other existing content.

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Was simply going to be a sentry based upon each class, or based on the standard arcvetypes of defender, support and attacker... which would be aproached in different ways.

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higher teir versions would simply gain more abilities, and become stronger...

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defender would be like the existing towers but not qutie as tanky but also slightly mobile able to move around, playing similar to existing towers but not, stataonry, but still focusing on tank, healer and dps. having some minnions, and maybe some hazards like towers do. This option would be cloest to the current system.
Support would be a hybrid between the current system but also more agile but deal far less damage, instead focusing on spawning swarms of mobs to attack players. Along with some traps and such, and maybe a small floor puzzel. [requiring players to stand in certain locations. This option would be closer to old pre reworked wars where you slew hoards of zombies.
Attacker would have no minions, but be quicker deal higher dps, and pose a more active threat but also take less time to defeat. They would transiton between quicker and slower phases, but focus on targeting players. This option being more like a standard boss, in the rest of the game.

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Maybe attacker should be split into range and standard combat but idk.

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But this is what I mean by variation if that makes sense...

marsh hazel
umbral loom
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well anyone have thugvts on my guild war idea?

rough jacinth
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Jesse what the fuck are you talking about

umbral loom
rough jacinth
lapis socket
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suggestion

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anyone with less warcount than @edgy prawn isn’t allowed to make suggestions for warring

edgy prawn
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Breh

meager lantern
umbral loom
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If so im planning on doing that during summer i lack the time rn to finish them with finals coming up in 10 days