give toxo any damage values

[copper hollow]

turn it into more of a Gaia like weapon because while pure poison is garbage and unskilled it does suck that toxo the earth mythic is straight up bad

[slim obsidian]

Can we swap ashock and toxo around pls

[copper hollow]

that would make two melee shaman mythics

[rain cedar]

actually an idea was thrown around by I think gongus

to give it infinite attack speed tiers

[radiant swift]

toxo with its gimmick being half-standard mythic relik base dps with the other half covered by funky poison numbers is my secret fantasy tbh

[rain cedar]

which would make it actually have epoch levels of dps at max

[radiant swift]

Give it the ability to have builds instead of being poison exclusive (yawn)

[rain cedar]

of course it would not pass, but it's kinda funny

[hardy mason]

I actually wouldn't mind this honestly

but then again its gonna add like the worst roll known to man on a really good toxo cause the game is like that

my 99% Poison Shiny Toxo would become useless

[karmic swan]

honestly I'm not sure if that statement is still correct
in theory with snail set you have around 60k dps with 80k ehp which is decent ratio with dps to ehp for tank/support builds (probably higher than monster)
Boring? sure it is more boring than all boring archetypes combined
Bad? likely it's no longer the case especially that shaman can have a loadout which is packed to the brim with team support which makes up for the lack of dps

[copper hollow]

nah basically all th other tank mythics have better ratios

also should the earth mythic really be tanky

[karmic swan]

personally I haven't seen monster lb doing good damage

which is probably the most notable case of tank mythic

[rain cedar]

Monster could do up to 250k I believe

Which is like, 400k before the gazillions of lightbender nerfs

[karmic swan]

show the build

[rain cedar]

Which will be 1mil at the start of 2.1 tcc

[karmic swan]

or is it just considering the fact that you'll have arcanist that abuses 35 winded?

it's hard for me to imagine because I wasn't even close to reach those levels of dps (not crafted/low aspects)

somehow it was only 50k dps on dummy

[rain cedar]

Huh

https://wynnbuilder.github.io/builder?v=16#10_06W10KCR-1967BCOCh7j7j9i91CR-1967BCOCh7j7j9a91CR-18n9k8n9k9f9x9m91CR-18n9k8n9k9f9x9m910Jn0OP0Qn0x1a-E37001g00001006CO0z0z0+0+0+0+0-1T2Y2Y2Z2Z2a2azZdcgrk6B
WynnBuilder build:

Brainwash
Cannonade
CR-1967BCOCh7j7j9i91
CR-1967BCOCh7j7j9a91
CR-18n9k8n9k9f9x9m91
CR-18n9k8n9k9f9x9m91
Dupliblaze
Diamond Solar Necklace
Monster [f6f6f6]

I saw this around, apparently crabs simulacrum is also good

You also get 100% fire dmg from endurance

Also you have to lose hp to heal yourself and get fortitude

And lightbender aspects help

[abstract remnant]

you're doing something very wrong

[karmic swan]

crafteds 🤮

I don't play enough to the effort be worth it

[pulsar warren]

Around 80k dps for room wide dmg seems pretty ok to me tbh

[open wigeon]

Give it a major id

[umbral kiln]

Any shaman build can get 80k room wide dps with so much more util and focused damage

I get 60k aura per wave, so rebound brings that up to 120k

Not to mention EC

[pulsar warren]

Toxo is actually room wide tho

It covers nearly every room in poison

[umbral kiln]

dt EC clears methinks

[crimson sable]

ik they want to bring average dps down and shit but imo 80k is way too low for the earth mythic

i dont think it should have like 150k dps in poison maybe some other aspect that boosts the damage up but i dont think it should be put in a position where it just relies on poison

[storm flower]

make toxo laby design
decrease the poison to 1/10 but you can now stack the poison to 100 stacks

[pulsar warren]

That’s 2.4 mil in poison dmg/3 assuming ur using the meta poison build

[storm flower]

A little adjustment on numbers would fix

[pulsar warren]

Toxo dmg is alr fine since there’s no down time

Ur always hitting

[storm flower]

then we are gonna add a 0.2s cooldown on its poison applying

[rain cedar]

Poison mythic was a mistake

It could be saved with a MiD tho

[copper hollow]

what if they added an ability that slowly ramps up damage by meleeing enemies multiple times

[hardy mason]

What if it was buffed by earth damage % and got extra damage based off strength and could Crit???

I mean like every poison item has %Earth DMG anyways

Make that the major ID

[misty arrow]

that's way too low

[karmic swan]

then anything that isn't snail set isn't viable becuase they give tierdrop while snail set doesn't

[pulsar warren]

Galleon toxo

[karmic swan]

We don't talk about galleon

[pulsar warren]

It’s not bad tho

[crimson sable]

Galleon is bad

Justice for galleon

[pulsar warren]

It’s only a bit lower than cytotoxic poison and u have the int qol and faster atkspd

And less -hpr

[karmic swan]

It is bad because it's badly designed
It would have to be really overstatted to fit in any build and be good with anything

[wicked prairie]

Galleon toxo isnt real

Idk how youd ever get enough sp for that

[karmic swan]

Ofc it's not

Even if you have SOMEHOW managed to pull it off, it's 65 intelligence down the drain regardless of a build

[misty arrow]

i don't think int matters a lot for toxo

[karmic swan]

no it doesn't at all

only thing that matters is player wasting points on it

[pulsar warren]

https://wynnbuilder.github.io/builder?v=16#10_01M11j0RU0Qc00h0TQ0BF0XM0Qy2M000y0o001g000000z0z0+0+0+0+0-1T2Y2Y2Z2Z2a2a

It’s real