bolt aspect

[azure valley]

when im in a garbage mythic aspect competition and my opponents are sharpshooter and Boltslinger

[fading fiber]

mythic aspects designers when the class is called bolt slinger and not guardian angel spawner:

[azure valley]

[frozen summit]

i mean the aspect improves several abilities in bolts kit like the other aspects

[lucid goblet]

The sharpshooter aspect when the trapper mythic bow uses it better than every other bow:

The boltslinger mythic giving more damage to a full sharp tree than a full bolt tree:

[icy salmon]

compared to boltslinger, sharpshooter doesnt even look that bad lmao

[icy salmon]

at tier 1 is useless and at tier 2 and 3, other than the +1 arrow storm it is useless once again

[frozen summit]

saying something is useless doesnt really help

like why is bolt’s worse compared to other mythics

cus increasing gangel speed does boost their dps

[icy salmon]

it is way worse compared to other mythic aspects

it gets you like 20k more dps

[hollow marsh]

they could lowkey expand on the word "guardian" in the guardian angel ability and make it protect you idk bolt too squishy

[frozen summit]

is that not because the node its boosting isnt as good compared to the other archetypes

[icy salmon]

they could just give the aspect a better purpose like increasing arrow storm damage or reducing the mana cost

[fading fiber]

to compare fallens aspect to bolt's, fallen at t1 decreases blood pact cost by ~30% (really depends on int and hemo) t2 increases your overall damage by 10% multiplicatively, and t3 gives a further 5

bolts gives a 15% dps increase (not even damage, it means u have to spend more mana recasting to actually utilize this in the first place) to GAs which are less than 20% of bolt's overall damage, then gives an upgrade that is completely useless outside tierstack (steals are divided between the 5 its actually a detriment) and finally gives a further small dps increase to said less than 20% of bolts overall damage

they are so insanely distant in terms of usefulness and power

[icy salmon]

^

[frozen summit]

i will say fallens mythic is probably way too strong in the first place

i think the main issue with the mythic is that bolt barely has anything to work with in terms of red nodes

like gangels work fine but they dont have a lot of depth outside of shot numbers or speed

or number of gangels which actually could be a cool buff

and your other red is literally just arrow storm

[icy salmon]

not GA’s are the problems, its just that they deal very little damage and dissapear really fast

and i honestly forget to even use them like 80% of the time because of how little of an impact on dps they have

[frozen summit]

again that sounds like more of a base node problem

[fading fiber]

adds + 1 stream to arrow storm, stormy feet gives an addtional +30% additive walkspeed, Recycling now partially refunds hit projectiles, arrow storm arrows come out 25% faster, its not hard to come up with ideas for this that dont suck

[frozen summit]

that last one is probably the only one i could see working, that recycling one sounds like more of a base node buff

although the extra stream one sounds good too

[icy salmon]

you can get extra arrows to your stream with aspects aswell and they rlly make a difference

[frozen summit]

a recycling buff in itself could be a fabled aspect

[icy salmon]

yeah

that could be a good fabled archetype, maybe even a good addition to a mythic archetype at t2+

[icy salmon]

aspect*

why did i even type archetype both times wth

[frozen summit]

dont get me wrong im not a huge fan of the mythic bolt aspect as is really, but id rather the attention be on improving the existing abilities on the tree

[icy salmon]

i agree but i think the developers should mainly focus on other trees as of right now such as riftwalker. There isnt really many outdated/bad things in the boltslinger tree but it definetely deserves a bit of rework

if i was the devs id rework sharpshooter cuz main red note twain’s arc has been useless for months and months

[frozen summit]

it could use a second red and arrow hurricane really doesnt change gameplay as much

im also not a fan of penta shots existing

thats just a very weird and strong buff being locked behind a mythic aspect

but not for the class its meant for yk

like id be down for the mythic to be about increasing speed of all bolts fired shots, from both storm and gangels to at least maintain some theming

but gangels not being too impactful themselves sounds like the bigger issue to me

[icy salmon]

it is really good on epoch but as you said, its a mythic aspect but not for the right archetype, also when they designed the penta shooting, idk what was in their mind

like they tought people are gonna use penta shooting on boltslinger? Its obviously useless, since 2.0 every bolt playstyle used arrow storm, arrow bomb, main attack for mana steal and thats it

[frozen summit]

tbh i think it was mainly for recycling synergy

assuming no homing shots you do technically get more out of recycling with penta shots

[icy salmon]

honestly idk about this, you only gain 0.08 mana per missed projectile which would be like 0.4 mana per penta shoot taken assuming you miss all but where on earth could this be useful? If you fight greg or any other boss you have to constantly use your attacks on it and from 5 arrows, only like 2-3 at most would miss which would get you like 0 mana

i dont know what they really intended to do with that, given the fact that bolt was always played with low attack speed for a better mana steal proc

[frozen summit]

tbh ive only ever gotten use out of recycling with the evolved storms aimed at the floor for some quick mana back

[icy salmon]

recycling doesnt even give all the mana back from storms

unless you have low cost

[frozen summit]

hence the evolved

good old 1 cost storms

[icy salmon]

you went kinda way back icl

[frozen summit]

but yeah id definitely like to see recycling get an amount from hit enemies even if its an aspect or smth

[icy salmon]

they could make recycling give mana if you hit enemies, not miss

like weightless from acrobat

[frozen summit]

or if they really wanna keep it being attached to missing, it could be a stronger effect with a cap

so the few arrows you do miss actually end up helping a lot

[icy salmon]

yup, i hope they change the mythic aspect and make some archetype modifications in the next updates maybe in the fruma update

hopefully they balance out most classes

cuz its so sad to see acrobat which is kinda hard to learn and master deal like 100k dps most of the times

[frozen summit]

from the sounds of things shaman and acrobat still seem to be the current focus

[dull willow]

im sure the new trapper summons aspect does something!

[icy salmon]

i hope so, acrobat is kinda bad on the dps side and shaman is kinda bad on the fun side

[icy salmon]

nerf laby plz

too op

[silver barn]

bolt genuinely feels like one of the first implemented archetypes in the game then hasn't been touched in years

[frozen summit]

nah that was definitely paladin/rift

(granted now paladin is getting changes)

[icy salmon]

it is kinda like that

since 2.0 it hasnt really been touched but it still is rlly cool n fun

[lunar zinc]

Nah sharp aspect is peak

[azure valley]

i love lying

[lunar zinc]

No other aspect gets worse with upgrades only sharp does 🔥

[mental crater]

Does anyone remember that one guy complaining that acro t2 righting reflex ruined his combo

And then he posted a video of his combo on a dummy and he was just holding shift the whole time 😭