New Acrobat is a bit of a mess, here is my ideas on how to make it feel better

[dusk otter]

As a long time acro player I was very excited for the upcoming changes to hopefully make my main not only better but also much more engaging. Sadly the update dropped and after playing for about 30 minutes the new acrobat is a pretty awful feeling mix of a bunch of differing and contrasting ideas mixed into one. I have a few ideas that I think would make it feel much better to play.

1. **The new Lacerate Jump Tech:**I echo what the other posts say, please just remove this. While staying in the air as Acro was difficult before, it was also incredibly rewarding and allowed for a lot of different techs that were discovered over the years. The new interation feels much slower, clunky, and overall is just a downgrade.

2. The Stomp: First things first, having to go 20 BLOCKS into the air to get max damage on a rework built to keep you closer to enemies is insane. It would feel MUCH better to only need to be airborne (maybe a 5-6 block requirement as mentioned in a similar post) in order to proc for max damage so gameplay is more fast paced. (Damage can be reduced from current if it would be op like this) Having to take the time to slowly climb up in the sky leads to a very slow playstyle on a class meant to be fast and exciting.

Next, Jasmine bloom being connected to the stomp just feels...awful. Momentum charges incredibly fast and rewards you with a damage boost for stomping as frequently as possible. And then there is jasmine bloom, which charges very slow and is needed to get max damage. Please just remove this combo and have them be separate abilities. Jasmine bloom as a passive DPS source was fine as is and does not need anything extra added to it.

Finally, Stomp not having any sort of bounce up is a strange decision to me. I am not asking for piro levels of height, but adding a 3 block bounce on a max momentum stomp would make the subsequent dash into the enemy feel much better as well as allow you to keep momentum (not the ability) in boss fights. 3 blocks would also keep you in the hitbox of every boss in the game (other than groot waves ig) so its still very dangerous to pull off successfully on glassier builds. Also, tying this only to max momentum would add a skill layer to the class so if you stomp a little too early it would punish you for it.

If anyone disagrees with what I have said or finds new acro awesome please comment below and maybe my eyes can be opened, but as of rn this is a sad day for acro mains everywhere.

TLDR: New acro is weird to play and have a lot of facets that need to be improved on IMO.

[next lotus]

yeah i feel the lack of piro is making the combo kinda awkward

doing a max stomp giving some height back would be nice

also like the 20 block thing is just stupid imo

[dusk otter]

Yeah, piro height would 100% be too strong but just some sort of feedback when I land would be nice

just so dashing from there doesnt feel weird

[graceful aurora]

also thematically the stomp thing doesn't really fit acro, seems more like a warrior ability to me. with the sound effect being super smashy, the particles being green, it just doesn't fit acro very well imo

[dusk otter]

I think it fits fine tbh, and I like the idea for acro a lot. The execution just aint it

[next lotus]

also new lace hop kinda forces you to have lace + multi range if you even want to play, it bounces you so high that nothing is close to hitting anymore

[dusk otter]

they also removed acro flying with hop and dash which unfortunately I could see being the real reason behind the change

[next lotus]

oh wait thats why the new flying feels so flimsy

i actually see now, its so off

[graceful aurora]

i think it's just that using hop while lacerate is going "consumes" lacerate's second jump, so you can't dash with it

probs part of the "superjump tech"

[slate ridge]

also can we talk about how neither stomp nor swan dive remove or even reduce fall damage?!??

[graceful aurora]

wait they don’t lol

[slate ridge]

I took fall damage from them lmao

[drifting copper]

also integrating shurikens into the combo is kinda impossible upon gaining one momentum since dash just slams you down now

also still salty they took away my one cheaper multi node now i can't sustain

[slate ridge]

wait I might be wrong

nvm I was right

[next lotus]

you realise using dash to activate dive is using a movement spell, and movement spells make you immune to fall dmg

the dmg youre taking is probably the dummy hitting you

[frosty panther]

can confirm you can take fall damage from an isolated stomp/dive

[next lotus]

are you sure you arent just diving onto a dummy

[frosty panther]

I tested in Lutho

[drifting copper]

you take fall damage

[slate ridge]

I hope the dummy doesnt do like 5k per hit

[waxen gale]

yeah can also confirm you take fall damage without the dash

[little jackal]

Do you think it has potential to be really good after some fixes

[waxen gale]

it seems you only take fall damage if you touch the ground and fall without dashing

[dusk otter]

100% I do, I think it could feel amazing to play

[slate ridge]

Maybe if momentum will like double in the damage gain per it will be good

[frosty panther]

I feel like the impact of Swan Dive should be changed

[little jackal]

Peak 🙏I'll start leveling my assassin ig

[dusk otter]

It needs a lot of changes tho to be fair, and right now it is pretty bad

[waxen gale]

agreedd it needs more feedback to a successful hit

[dusk otter]

100%, it feels underwhelming for sure

[waxen gale]

it also seems that daredevil no longer buffs lacerate-hop flying like it used to

[next lotus]

the only way i start taking fall dmg if i literally dont use RRR a single time in combat

[waxen gale]

so if they don't revert the change then it would be cool to see this added back

[next lotus]

which is intended, because at no point do you cancel your fall dmg, so like idk what you ppl are doing if you arent using dash at any point @slate ridge@frosty panther

[waxen gale]

yeah it seems like it has to be an actual fall

[next lotus]

yeah like thats just normal too 💀

no way i took fall dmg because i fell from high and didnt use a spell to cancel it

[frosty panther]

isolated testing, I don't drop Dash usage in actual combat

I imagined since the new ability incentivizes falling from high places that some sort of defense against fall damage directly implemented would make sense

then again using Dash is free

[next lotus]

natural selection

like if you arent using dash a SINGLE TIME during your entire cycle theres something really wrong

[dusk otter]

Please keep this thread on topic, very much dont want this locked as I want these changes seen

[frosty panther]

Acrobat feels like my workload just went up and my wage went down ngl

on a class that already struggles to see playtime too

Assassin itself is rare enough, every Assassin I see is a Trickster of some variety because that archetype is grossly overpowered

[dusk otter]

After talking to CT this is the list of possible changes that would fix my issues:

• Acro damage bumped up across the board
• Swan dive radius increased to 8 to avoid taking damage every stomp
• Empowered dash now has a piro effect but ONLY empowered dash
• Height range for swan dive is reduced to 5-15.

[meager rapids]

ngl cant it just be like if u hit any mob with the ability you wouldnt take fall dmg, but if u dont u will still take the fall dmg (i cant decide on the value), this surely isnt something that i took from monumenta!!!

[slate ridge]

That sounds good ngl

Hope we wont have to wait 2 weeks for this tho

[drifting copper]

Could we also get the extra downward momentum on dash only at 5 momentum not being able to actively include shurikens is kinda ass ngl

[dusk otter]

I also wanted this, it’d be better if explosion and dash were only at 5