When new Anni-style weapons for other Archetypes?

[distant notch]

I know some of the mythics from Anni are kind of a failure (Looking at you Bloodbath and Hana) and a mythic called Trance isn’t even used for the Archetype it’s designed for (It’s a LB mythic but that could also be because Riftwalker is shit). But still it would be interesting for the other Archetypes to have some mythics that are focused on their Archetype. And there are some concepts to use for the Archetypes. So why not add some variety to the meta? And maybe rework some of the old mythics? Idk how you would be able to get them tho.

When new Anni-style weapons for other Archetypes?

[meager parcel]

add content suggestion 😰

these are more atree issues than item issues anyways

[topaz depot]

probably fruma or something

[pearl geyser]

Anni Paladin mythic!! You could have a weapon that builds around soaking up damage and protecting your team,,, and not dying.. and a-and not movi-.. zzzzzzzz

[night quartz]

resurrection: second chance now has a five second cooldown

[pearl geyser]

make a mythic that can revive teammates and my life is yours

and then i'll resurrect myself so it's no longer yours

[night quartz]

WHAT

[muted surge]

bro said bb is bad prob doesnt play bb

[solemn solar]

weathered is already shade-oriented, and nullification is trickster-oriented
guardian can also be considered a paladin weapon
Other ones... yeah, lacking
Don't think it should be through Annie though, it's just going to make getting those items harder

[hexed acorn]

ashes of eternity: second chance now has two charges

[meager parcel]

GET mommymenta outt of here

[full marsh]

-200000 hp

[acoustic brook]

i think theres more pressing changes relating to anni we should do instead

[gaunt wyvern]

Quetzal has a really strong arcanist identity (same as pure), lament is basically LB coded while warp is Riftwalker coded, but both work better at hybrid builds, for mage, gaia, monster, singu and fatal i believe they are more into a generalist build, i would love 2 more low level mythic in order to get 1 per archetype

[oak haven]

this is a funny take considering these greatly predate 2.0 archetypes, they just have stats that coincide better with some than others, weathered and nulli have been actively changed since the class rework to feed into specific archetypes so theyre more of an exception than a rule

[full marsh]

Sleeping on quetz lb

[meager parcel]

Sleeping on child po

https://tenor.com/view/child-po-kung-fu-panda-panda-kung-fu-gif-27359038

[gaunt wyvern]

archetypes probably took into consideration mythic weapons in order to not rework every weapon, in that case i would love that gaia and singu had a MiD or a rework in order to get into niche or make a whole new niche

gaia could use a poison-winded related MiD since the most efficient role for it is rift (maybe each poison tic apply winded) and singu could be a endgame pure (for arcanist), maybe a major id that makes spells target fire sigil? to match with spell spam builds, monster and fatal seems dificult to change them but they do fine rn so iwould leave them as generalist weapons

[topaz depot]

that sounds like a lot of work just for both of the weapons to stay useless

[gaunt wyvern]

singu as a endgame pure would find a nice niche (pure is used even at high leven, not endgame but bc of dps powercreep), while gaia even if is not strong, it could create nice sinergy bc anything that accelerates winded application is usefull, specially against bosses that moves quickly or AoE dmg (imagine having that MiD with plague MiD, would be kinda strong)

[full marsh]

Gaia should get slow enemy

[topaz depot]

singus not going to be good without a massive rework bc it has a lot of hpr and its rainbow
gaia maybe but its not like its hard to apply winded rn

[gaunt wyvern]

would be cool for full riftwalker (not hybrid) since it could allow higher winded caps really fast, so timelock could take advantage

[topaz depot]

riftwalker is so useless 😭

[lusty rivet]

Singu would be good once hpr gets reworked so its values are actually used and hybrid being back

Well less of rework more of rainbow/hpr% item balancing

[topaz depot]

hprs getting reworked?

[lusty rivet]

Idk, shits long due of a reworkatleast on the mr based hpr side

[topaz depot]

maybe in the 24th century

[lusty rivet]

Stg if we get better hpr% accs singu could be decent

[full marsh]

Singu slayer bete hpr cancel fr

[topaz depot]

and yet depressing stick will be better

singus sp reqs are too high

[distant notch]

BB isnt worth the price there are better Mythic for lower prices

[gaunt wyvern]

BB competes with thunda too

[radiant torrent]

price isn’t set by anyone

idk nkt that I agree or disagree

I haven’t played it

warrior boring ong

[radiant torrent]

should really talk about the price itself and how it isn’t as high as other annie mythics? (maybe?)

cause the price represents the goodness

no need to talk about goodness per price

[distant notch]

Well it is set by the players who think how much value it has and how much effort you need to put into to get it. BB is only so "expensive" because it is a Anni mythic and not because its good. Look at Trance. It is used for 1 Archetype (Since with Riftwalker it sucks because Riftwalker alone sucks) but it is still much more expensive then BB which is also used with the rn best playstyle for Warrior, Fallen Burst.

[distant notch]

Thrunda is like 5 tîmes less expensive so the point still stands

[gaunt wyvern]

yeah that was the point of commenting that, thrunda is kinda at a good spot rn, unless bb offers something else, is not going to be really that much worth

[gaunt wyvern]

this, Annie mythics are well know for being exceptional at their duty compared to other mythics, but still, BB is the only one without exceptional usage, Reso is the best at his niche so does trance and lab (hana is probably not the best but it does the job).

[distant notch]

I agree with that.

[distant notch]

Bloodbath needs a MiD which buffs Bloodpact or smth. since otherwise it's pretty much useless compared to other mythics in the pricerange. Imo BB needs to be the best mythic for Fallen-Burst since it's build for it with the -41872891 MR

[gaunt wyvern]

i was going to say that, i don't play warrior to know much about what it needs but yeah

[topaz depot]

it doesn't need a mID it just needs a slight buff to stats

[acoustic brook]

its an anni mythic it should get a mid

[topaz depot]

why

[acoustic brook]

fym why

all of em have one except bb right?

[topaz depot]

yeah and

[acoustic brook]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1080827595152691211/1335429442922614925/twitter_1885397997540041142_2.gif

[topaz depot]

what is your point here

bbath doesn't need a major id

it just needs some better stats

[acoustic brook]

https://tenor.com/view/monsters-vs-aliens-bob-bob-my-honest-reaction-bobs-honest-reaction-funny-gif-17779188775390892642

[topaz depot]

thanks for the input

[lusty rivet]

bbath needs some of its strdex moved into basedmg :3

want a better scaling...so raid stat boons arnt fake lol

[topaz depot]

maybe it could have more ws too to differentiate it from other spears

[meager parcel]

yeah more qol is all it needs

[tardy thunder]

bbath 100 ws when

[acoustic brook]

shiny anni mythics when

[distant notch]

Btw this is a "New Anni-Style Mythic" channel not "Buff Bloodbath" channel

[topaz depot]

yeah well those arent happening so

[acoustic brook]

mythic pants and helmet when

[gaunt wyvern]

other CTs says that they don't like that concept bc of mythic stacking, but in defense of mythics, they could just make a debuff iff wearing like too strong ones

much like in qira items

[topaz depot]

then whats the point just add more boots

[acoustic brook]

or maybe buff the boots we have

[gaunt wyvern]

nono, they said that they don't want full mythic builds and stuff

like for me is not a good excuse

bc it doesn't make sense, is like using full fabled build, you will rarely see one working

[distant notch]

Or maybe make gimmick items like Disco

[topaz depot]

I think they're keeping those to the fableds

[distant notch]

Theyre keeping MiD's to fableds

Not gimmicks

[topaz depot]

there's only so much you can do without new mIDs

[gaunt wyvern]

also new ids can make up to new equipment and niches

[vestal flame]

slapping a mid on every item so that they have a gimmick is also not a great solution

I don't think disco would fit well as a fabled at all

fableds are almost exclusively items with major ids, and items with major ids can be boring too, while gimmick items don't need major ids to be gimmicky

An example idk if you agree with is cold wave

it has a major id but it's really not gimmicky at all

the stats don't complement ice snake super well and it's just a normal ring with a utility major id slapped onto it

a gimmick item that doesn't need a major id is something like gaping cavity, knucklebones, aphotic, contrail shock

virgo, aquarius, etc.

broken balance, blue mask, the list goes on

[safe turret]

New mID for paladin:

Revenant's Order: Second Chance now triggers only for your teammates with 3min cooldown whenever any of them die.
When triggered: Revives the player with 80% of your max HP as absorbtion (and 1hp of normal health). When revived the player will receive corrupted status and thus cannot be healed. Their health decays by itself by 10% of their max HP every 3s (Till they die). Any player can be revived only once per 9 minutes. The activation can affect all dead players that are not on cooldown.

It could be a nice mID related both to corruption (annihilation's origin) and Paladin archetype itself, but in a different way if we ever get new warrior item from annie haha

[vestal flame]

Unfortunately that’s kinda overloaded for a major id, and if anything, base second chance should be tuned, not creating a major id to fix it

[hexed acorn]

wow revenant from hypixel warlords!

[safe turret]

Damn, that was indeed a warlords reference! 🔥

[next aspen]

rework cata lore to link it with anni (cuz nether portal is not real)

ez anni-style mythic

[gaunt wyvern]

lorewise, nether portal do exist, what doesn't exist is the nether itself since the nether portal is also mentioned in quest even after 2.0